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Gloria Hass – Navigating Life with Multiple Personality Disorder · Vox Novus with Victor Fuhrman

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Vox Novus, the new Voice, Vox Novus, the new dimension, Vox
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Novus thought and movement leaders who will share from their experience and offer tools to
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help us navigate our rapidly changing world. My name is Victor Furman. Welcome
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to Vox Novus, the New Voice. Dissociative personality disorder, formerly known as
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multiple personality disorder, has been dramatized in films such as Three Faces of Eve,
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Sybil and Split. What is it like to actually experience this neuropsychological challenge?
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My guest this week on Vox Novus, Award winning best selling author Gloria
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Hass experienced them from early childhood and was finally diagnosed with this condition in twenty
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fifteen. She joins me this week on Vox Novus to share this very personal
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and at times heart wrenching story and her book documenting this journey navigating life with
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multiple personality disorder. Please join me in welcoming to Vox Novis. Gloria has
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Welcome Gloria, Thank you, Victor. It's good to be here. Gloria.
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When we had you on our first interview back in January, you shared
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your amazing story about your life before this one and your remarkable book, My
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Journey as a Gray Hybrid, And for listeners who haven't heard that interview or
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read that book, please get that book. It's an amazing book. Just
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recently I learned about an earlier book of yours that totally stunned me, entitled
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Navigating Life with Multiple Personality Disorder. This book has found renewed interest and readership
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recently, and before we discussed this, please share with listeners about your remarkable
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entry into this life and what you learned about it. Well, on my
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entry, I well before I came in, I you know, was a
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great extraterrestrial and I remember sitting in the waiting room that is in Heaven,
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and I waited for such a long time. I thought I was being overlooked.
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It's like, am I ever going to make it to Earth? And
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because I went from the spaceship into the holding room and then I came to
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Earth and it was that. I remember coming into the room and I see
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the doctor holding a baby upside down and it was spanky the doctor was.
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That's how they did in nineteen fifty six. They held babies upside down and
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spank to their bottom to get them to cry, to get their lungs going
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and I wasn't breathing. It had been about well, the baby wasn't breathing
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for five minutes, and the doctor was about to claim the baby stillborn,
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and my mom a lot of the time the woman pleaded with the doctor,
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please try once again. And then I remember being inside the baby crying,
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and then the doctor you know, I'm now the woman's child and said,
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you know it's you know, it's a girl. And my mom told me
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for years, she repeated, she said, I thought that I was going
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to give birth to stillborn child, and your father would have never forgiven me.
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And the actuality was the baby was stillborn, and I came from extraterrestrial
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into a human. Do you have any thoughts as to why you chose this
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incarnation. I was given the choice when I was on spaceship. There were
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quite a few of us. I was given a choice as to I could
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have stayed in search and rescue or I could come to Earth and be part
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of a big experiment on how to further our race in making it, you
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know, the extraterrestrial race in with the humans to make it make the humans
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more of a heartier race. So it's we're all from extraterrestrial beginnings, but
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they came from the future back to here to say this is what needs to
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be done. We need to tweak this, and instead of search and rescue,
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which would have eventually been phased out anyway, I went ahead and came
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on to the next phase of what needed to be done. Absolutely now we
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have become friends. And I noticed on your Facebook post a few days ago
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that you had mentioned this book, Navigating Life with Multiple Personality Disorder, and
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I said, wait a minute. I wasn't familiar with that book, and
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I started looking at it and it absolutely blew me away. To share something
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as personal as multiple personality disorder must have taken a tremendous amount of courage.
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What prompted you to come forward and write this book? My therapist, she
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told me that she had been involved since the nineteen nineties with this disorder and
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when it was known as multiple personality disorder before it became associateive identity disorder,
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and she said, I had a very rare case. You know, it
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was rare then, and it's only with highly creative and talented people. And
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I'm not patting myself on the back. I'm just saying, what the requirements
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are for it, and she said, I believe that, you know,
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more people need to know about it and just think about it. And it
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took me a while to even want to even go near that topic. And
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also I was in another program this is all through Behavior Health Behavior Health Company
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organization, and one of the other leaders I was talking with him and he
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said, Gloria, you have a fascinating story. Why don't you share it?
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Lisas that's all I'm going to say. And after thinking about it for
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a couple of weeks a week or two weeks, I spoke with my therapist
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and I asked her, would you mind if I record our therapy sessions and
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then I can transcribe them because I'm going to the book. And she said,
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as long as you don't mention my name because it'd be a conflict of
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interests and she would have to sign a waiver. I went ahead and started
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recording and going back through and writing the book because I truly wanted a better
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life and if it could accelerate my healing after many years of being misdiagnosed and
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not being seen by people who are actually trained to recognize what this disorder is,
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I would not ever receive the right kind of healing, and after nightmares
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of waking up in strange places and stuff, I said, if that all
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could stop, and if I could get some memories back, and if my
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life would be better than what the hell it was that I saw write the
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book, and that's why I did it. I have a sense knowing you.
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But you also did this for others that might have issues of this nature.
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Actually, my first thought was me and about me getting better, And
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then afterwards I thought if after the book was finished and I was editing it,
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then I thought about if other people could understand this, for you know,
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even the friends of people who have this, they could better understand their
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friend than people would be less isolated and have more of a support system.
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Absolutely, when did you first hear or recognize what you described as the other
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voices in your head? And who or what did you think they were?
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I was, oh, gosh, it was before I to school, was
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before kindergarten, and I was probably we had moved to California from Indiana.
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My brother was in school, my dad was at work, and my mom
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was in the kitchen, and I remember sitting in the living room area and
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my mom heard distinct voices, and she comes in and looks at me.
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She only sees me sitting on the floor and I was sitting with the toy
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I guess it was a toy record player that we had. Her books,
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and I was sitting there and just moving things around, and then I was
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reading the book. My mom goes, who are you talking to? And
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I looked up at my mom and I said, Mommy, I'm talking to
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my inside friends. And what was her reaction? She just looked at me,
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like what and she said, well, okay, and would watch me
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for a few minutes. And I just sat there and looked at her and
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I didn't say anything, and I heard be quiet. She's still watching And
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when she went back into the kitchen, then we continue to play and then
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she came back again to see and one of them said, playtime is over.
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And that's when my inside friends went dormant because my mom. But I
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believe my mom knew that there was something more because her mother had schizophrenia,
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and it was thought for years that I had schizophrenia, but it wasn't until
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I detesting through a department of parapsychology. I think it was called I'm not
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sure and for some other things. That's when they found out I had multiple
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personality disorder. I remember first learning about multiple personality disorder from the nineteen fifty
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seventh film Three Faces of Eve starring Joanne Woodward. Later films, including nineteen
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seventy six's Sybil starring Sally Field and twenty sixteen Split starring James McAvoy, also
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highlighted this. You share in your book that your mother had you watched the
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early film to gauge your reaction, and also called you to watch Sybil when
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it was on television. What do you think prompted her to do this.
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I think she believed that I may have multiple personality disorder. And I remember
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watching Three Faces of Eve and it was just like, okay, that is
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different and weird. I didn't quite understand it. But when it came to
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Sybil, I could. I hardly could stomach that movie with Sally Field and
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it was I think it was with Sally Field and it was just really horrendous.
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And my mom asked me. I said I didn't like it. She
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said, well, how do you feel about it? I didn't really It
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was, you know, good movie, but it was about high level of
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abuse. You know torture, and I left it at then said I don't
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want to talk about it anymore, Mom, And that's where that was from.
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But I remember going through therapy and remembering that and understanding, Okay,
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Mom probably knew, probably thought, and I think that was her way of
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saying, Gloria, you need help because you may have this. As you
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had mentioned before. The new psychiatric term for this condition is dissociative identity disorder,
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and it is often linked to severe trauma experienced as a child. Do
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you have memories of traumatic experiences? Yes? I do, Victor. Is
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there anything that you're comfortable sharing with us? Yeah? Because I think I
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wrote about it, I may as well talk about it. Yes. My
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mom abandoned my half brother and I when we were children. We were living
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in Indiana. She didn't want to be a mom anymore. I was two
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and a half years old when she was gone for an entire year that I
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could remember. Was talking with a cousin, one of her cousins about it
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years ago, and she said, I think she's only gone for a year.
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As I was trying to put pieces together and during that time, I'll
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preface it with my dad's mother, her first lover was her father, and
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my dad's first lover was his mother, and she had a pen and my
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dad's mother, I don't want to. I don't like calling her my grandmother
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because there's no terms of endearment there at all, and on either side.
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But I remember my dad would work a full time job and a part time
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job, and he did that even when my mom was around, because my
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mom didn't work because she was raising two children. And my dad's mother would
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strap me down on the dining room table and my dad joined in later.
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And then they started locking me up in the bedroom because my brother would wake
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up and you know, ask what was going on because I'd be screaming.
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And that's when I was sodomized and they did other sexual things to me,
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and that is when I started creating the different identities because I needed an army
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to help me. You shared that in twenty fifteen, you began having a
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series of seizures. What triggered these and what do you remember of those experiences?
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All I remember is that they called them, I think silent seizures,
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I'm not sure. And my doctor sent me to a neurologist to have an
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EEG done to see you know what was going on, And the EEG came
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back fine. But it was during the EEG that I started having really weird
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I thought I was having hallucinations and they ended up being day terrors because I
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asked the neurologists, are you sure you didn't put anything you know into these
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little needles? Because I thought, you know, maybe you know psychedelic drugs
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or anything, and he said no. He asked me to explain it,
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and I told him. He said, Gloria, you're experiencing day terrors from
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PTSD from trauma, and he said, I believe you need to go into
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therapy. And for anyone who doubts that these are my true stories, everything
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is documented medically. Because I've been accused of making these stories up. But
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everything that I tell you has been documented medically. Why would someone accuse you
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of making these things up? These were horrible experiences you had. They think
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I did it to make money off of other people's stories. I've been accused
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of that several times and recently I've been accused of it and I said,
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everything's from personal experience. Everything is documented. So after this testing, neurological
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testing for the seizures you refer to what's called neuropsychological testing. Now was this
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conducted and what were the results. I had to go for two days.
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One was eight hours and the other day was six hours. And they were
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to see if about brain patterns. And usually people who have memory issues,
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dementia and stuff are given these tests. And I hand coordination and different you
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know, memory retention and everything. And they said I scored above average using
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my left hand over my right hand and I'm right hand dominant, and they
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were surprised. And then at the end of all the questioning and everything that
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they found, they diagnosed me with my personality disorder because I didn't show any
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signs of schizophrenia and other you know, any other menial illness or disorder that
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may cause it. And it was through all this trial and error that they
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told me I had multiple personality disorder. Let's talk a little bit about that
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left hand right hand situation for a moment. You are, for those who
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don't know glory issues, a gifted and talented artist and does some amazing work.
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And I will always associated art with the right side of the brain and
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creativity with the right side of the brain. The left hand did that manifest
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for you? That way. Actually, I was ambidextrous as a child,
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and I I could I could write better with my right hand, but when
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it came to my left hand, I actually I could equally write as well.
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And my mom made me choose my right hand because my brother was also
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ambidextrous, and he chose his left hand and had a lot of problems in
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school. So that's why my mom told me I had to pick my right
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hand, and that's what and then I stopped using my left hand for equal
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stuff things to do, and so then I had lost that ability to write
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and do other things with my left hand. Just out of curiosity, the
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fact that you and your brother were both ambidextrous, that's very unusual for that
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to manifest in the family. Usually have light right handed kids or left handed
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kids. Did you ever follow through on that to find out why? Well,
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he was my half brother. It was on my mother's side of the
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family then because we had different fathers. But it, as far as I
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know, it hadn't manifested be for that. That's fascinating. My guest is
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Gloria Hass. We're talking about her book, Navigating Life with Multiple Personality Disorder.
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Gloria, please share with our listeners where they can get your books and
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find out more about you. You can get my books on Amazon dot com.
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Just put my name in Gloria Hass ha ss and smile says and smile,
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and my books will come up. And do you have a website?
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No, I don't. I do have a link tree, but I don't
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Back on Box Novus, My guest this week is Gloria Has. Her
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book is called Navigating Life with Multiple Personality Disorder. So, Gloria, you
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shared that you had that testing, that neuropsychological testing. This actually launched you
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into an investigative approach in which you interviewed friends to gather their thoughts about how
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you related. What did you learn in this process? What I learned in
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this process was I needed a trauma expert, someone who would counsel people was
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you know, severe trauma, A trauma specialist, and not just any psychiatrists
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who I had been to, who never even the psychiatrists that I had been
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interviewed by negated everything else and already had down that I had schizophrenia and I
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needed to be on medication. And also I've been to years, had been
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in therapy up to that point, over thirty some odd years, and I
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kept having therapists telling me that you're fine, there's nothing wrong with you,
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and I'm like, but then why this, Oh, You're just making things
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up to get attention. So when I spoke with my friends, one of
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them had a couple of them had actually one of them had multiple personality disorder,
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and she said, I wanted you know, I want you to know
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that you probably have this because she would ask me questions and I would tell
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her what was going on and everything, and she told me to read a
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book, which I did, and everything sounded way familiar, and then I
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went ahead and started. I called my insurance company for behavior health, and
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I said, I need to see a trauma specialist. And there was only
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one. There were two on staff, and only one who was slight,
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one who was slightly familiar with it, and another one who was very well
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known and had written books about it, and one of the books was leading
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in the treatment of people with this disorder. And I was assigned to the
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first person who knew little about it, and she was removed from the company
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for advocating for her clients instead of encouraging her clients to advocate for her,
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which I was sad to see her go because she was so she coddled and
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I wanted coddling. And then it was a blessing though that for me that
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I no longer saw her, because I ended up going to the second therapist,
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who was you know, I don't coddle, I don't do this.
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This is the way things are. And I didn't like her in the beginning,
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but I grew to respect her and her knowledge, and she genuinely wanted
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to help. And she said, if I coddle you, it will delay
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your progress, and I don't want to do that. Sounds like someone with
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a tremendous amount of integrity of professionalism. Oh she does, she really does.
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Did you perhaps learn or come to find out how many people actually have
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this dissociative identity disorder? I don't remember the status six, but I at
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the time in twenty sixteen it was rare. But then I heard along the
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way that it was becoming more prevalent because they changed it to did dissociate identity
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disorder. It's normal for people to dissociate when they're in a situation or they're
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bored. That is normal for dissociation. And people can be driving along and
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think how did I get from point A to point B? When actually,
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in their mind they're going over familiar path. But then they start thinking about
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other things instead of focusing on their driving, and that's why they don't remember
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getting from point A to point B in a normal day. But there are
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people with this disorder who can remember driving home from work and waking up a
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couple of states over, and that is completely different than regular dissociation. And
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I believe they're throwing both of the both populations in together, which they really
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shouldn't. Before we discuss your DD therapy sessions, please share with us a
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little about each of these thirteen personalities that dwelled within you. Well. At
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the time I wrote the book, there were thirteen. By the time I
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had finished therapy, and by the time years later, there were one hundred
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and one multiple personalities because I kept creating them. When I don't feel safe,
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I create them, and I did. And I was told with therapy
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I would never create another personality, and I did. I do. When
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my dog passed away in twenty twenty three, I noticed some things were different,
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and I created two persons and I combined them. So you know,
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for me, I kept creating. I keep creating. I keep telling my
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brain, I'm the boss. You're not supposed to I'm in charge, and
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it still does what it wants to do at times. Can you tell us
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about some of those personalities that came through during your therapy. There was Julie.
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She was very promiscuous, and she was nasty, and it didn't bother
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her to cuss people out. And I remember, oh gosh, I was
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in my twenties. I was out with a friend and her friend and we
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went to the bank and she's and what had happened was I was taking out
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a hundred dollars bill and it was windy, and the teller did not wait
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for me to put my hands on the bill. She let it go and
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it flew out and money was tight. I was married at the time,
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and Julie came out, and I remember it's like a movie running and I
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started cussing the bank tailler out and we were out looking for the dollar,
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the hundred dollar bill, and I remember Cindy looked at me and she said,
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Gloria, is that you, and I looked at her and I said,
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who do you think it is? She said, my whole demeanor,
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my face, my voice changed completely, and the way I carried myself was
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completely different. And she said, we're going to end this trip. We're
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just going to take you home and my girlfriend are going to go shopping.
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We're not taking you with us because we don't know who you are right now.
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And she didn't know, you know, I didn't know about this.
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So we went home and took to She took me home, which was only
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ten minutes down the road, and I didn't have money to go shopping.
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And later on I was refunded the money by the bank and I spoke with
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the bank manager. That was a couple of days later. Tell us about
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Wendy. Oh my gosh, she's my first friend. I remembered. She
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was one of my inside friends. She was Casper, the ghost girlfriend on
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the cartoon, and I always remembered that I wanted to be Wendy because she
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had a friend who actually cared for her and loved her as a friend.
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So I developed I created Wendy, and she was one of my inside friends
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that I told my mom about when I was four years old, four or
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five years old, and did he bring to you peace? Love? And
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we could sit and talk about Casper and what he was like, and it
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was an escape from reality of living in a horrible family where there was a
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lot of abuse and yelling and screaming, and my mom having her issues and
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my dad taking the switch to us, and my mom not being that nice
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to my brother either, like smashing his face into a tree because he was
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laughing too much. Was there ever a male personality, Oh, there are
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quite a few. I remember Patrick, and he was he was more like
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a protector, and he seemed my mom wanted to call me Patricia, so
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Patrick was a very name, Patricia. My dad said, no, we're
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naming her Gloria. But when my mom said that she wanted to name me
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Patricia, I thought that if I became Patricia, and then I developed Patrick,
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that if I was a boy, my mom would care for me more
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like she cared more for my brother. At times, you know, boys
34:24
got to do more and girls were more oppressed and more or less in society.
34:32
And I thought that if I was a boy that I could do more.
34:37
And that's probably why I created Patrick, as well as him being a
34:44
protector, someone who could say no forcefully and just you know, stand in
34:52
the way of anything. And what about Matthew. I don't remember Matthew.
35:00
You okay, I thought I read it in the book. I'm sorry.
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No, there is a Matthew, but I don't remember what his role was.
35:07
See, once they combine, I get all of the memories that he
35:10
didn't have. So I really I don't remember anything about Matthew. Of the
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inside or outside personalities, is there one that you admire the most? I
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guess maybe Julie, but not in her vulgar manner. She was a go
35:31
getter. She didn't let things stand in a way. It was like,
35:37
you know, I'm going to do this regardless. You know, her fortitude,
35:45
her determination, her persistence. Did any of these personalities did you incorporate
35:52
We'll talk about the bringing them together in a little bit, But did you
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incorporate any of these as you were going along? No? I just created
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more. I didn't start combining them until therapy. So you began the DD
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disorder therapy in twenty fifteen. What were those sessions like and what did you
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learn? I learned how to be safe. I learned that I am in
36:27
control that I don't need to depend on a man to protect me. And
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we also did EMDR treatments which really helped quite a bit. It's a bar
36:43
with a light that goes back and forth and you hold a control in both
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one. You have a control for your left hand and control for your right
36:50
hand, and it's like it's doing a regression back and taking when you didn't
36:57
feel safe and changing the story to feeling safe and ending up in a positive
37:06
manner. It was going through why I didn't feel safe, what happened during
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that time, and then how can you rewrite that journey and rewire your brain
37:19
through the process to where that is no longer going to be an issue,
37:24
to where you can feel safe and be more proactive and more powerful in your
37:30
own right. And what else does a MDR do? You talk about that
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a bit in the book. What else does it do for me? That's
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what it was about. It was I know it has to do with left
37:45
brain, right brain, and it's I believe it's to bring things together.
37:51
But that's all that I remember about it, and the journeys of going on
37:55
the different journeys and empowerment and MDR works in conjunction with what's known as neuroplasticity.
38:05
Tell us about neuroplasticity. Neuroplasticity is where your brain. It's normal for
38:13
everybody when they do it. You're creating new neural pathways, and you're strengthening
38:20
your brain and resilience of your brain at the same time. And when you
38:23
have neuroplasticity and you're learning new things like let's say a foreign language, something
38:31
completely new about a topic you didn't know before, what you're doing is you're
38:38
changing your brain's age to being younger to what you know to what the current
38:45
age is. And I was able to get my brain back to the age
38:52
of a forty year old before I had my head injury in twenty twenty,
38:57
and enjoyed it because it felt exciting that it opened up new venues and new
39:06
avenues in my brain, that I could feel better about myself. I didn't
39:10
have to feel like I was hiding anymore. I felt better. I read
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a lot of books on neuroplasticity and what you can do and how to change
39:23
your thoughts, and I did all this in conjunction with the therapy I was
39:29
taking at the time, and I had already been reading for years self help
39:34
books because I was searching so much for an answer. So when I began
39:40
therapy in twenty fifteen, my therapist said, you are years ahead of other
39:45
people because of what you've done, and we just have to fine tune what
39:51
you're doing. So that's what neuroplasticity does. I believe it expands. It
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Disorder. Gloria, how did did affect your relationships personally and professionally? Oh
43:44
my gosh, it was a nightmare for the other person, and I understand
43:47
that as well was it being a nightmare for me. I was never taught
43:54
healthy boundaries, how to have a healthy relationship. My mother didn't. My
44:02
mother could have a healthy relationship with someone, but I was never taught how
44:07
to. Neither was my half brother. And I remember my dad. I
44:12
was saying, well, you should know this by now. You should know
44:14
that by now, and I would ask friends. I would have friends to
44:17
shake their head. I was in my early thirties. They said, Gloria,
44:21
why are you doing this stuff? Why isn't this normal? No,
44:24
well, then what do I need to do to change? Well, you
44:27
should know this by now. You know we're talking about nineteen I guess eighties.
44:35
And how am I supposed to know something if I've never been taught,
44:40
No one will not know anything. Unless they've been taught. They don't have
44:45
those tools in their toolbox. And I was married to a man for ten
44:51
years. We should never have gotten married to begin with. The marriage was
44:57
hell for both of us. And all all I did was go with the
45:01
familiar with abusive relationships because that's all I knew because of my parents. I
45:08
would go with ego with a familiar, and it's very hard to break that
45:15
cycle. And I realized that I would find healthy relationships boring because it wasn't
45:22
feeding off the trauma response that I felt inside. Please tell us about how
45:30
the process of integrating personalities ensued. Well, we started in what my therapist
45:37
started with me, and that was also before EMDR and yes and also during
45:45
EMDR to integrate the different personalities. And she told me that to call them
45:51
forward and once I got recognized, speak with them to find out what their
45:59
role was and when they were created and what they did and let them know
46:07
that they're not going Because the personality thinks it's a separate entity. It's a
46:14
separate person than you, and your brain sees all these personalities as separate people.
46:20
That's why people's physical appearance and voice can change. I mean even my
46:24
eye color would change and my hair color would change. So once I convinced
46:35
the person the personality that we were still there was still going to live through
46:40
me. I had to gain their trust and let them know that you're not
46:47
dulling. You just be able to express yourself through me. And I got
46:53
physically ill. I would get physically sick when each personality would integrate, it
47:00
have dry heaves, I would throw up, I would run fevers, and
47:05
that was the first time my therapist ever heard of that happening. And I
47:12
did. It's not I don't know why. Even after my head injury,
47:17
when I combined one, I still got sick. And I'm thinking, well,
47:22
I guess it's all the different energy is hard to integrate for me.
47:27
I don't know. You mentioned in the book about some of the personalities integrating
47:32
together becoming as one. Tell us about that. Please, When you become
47:40
together and you integrate them and you become as one, you gain their memories
47:45
because before you're integrated, there are length spots in your memory that you don't
47:52
know because that part of your personality holds that memory. So when they integrate,
47:58
combine into the main to your main personality, you get all those memories
48:02
back, but it's like it happening right there at that moment instead of years
48:07
before. So you're reliving that trauma of what happened and having to work through
48:16
all of those emotions and feelings. And it's but once it's done for me,
48:24
I was able to move forward and go forward. But once all of
48:30
the personalities are combined, it's like an empty slate. It's like who are
48:37
you? Because you're only used to being a certain percentage of the pie.
48:43
Let's say you're five percent of the pie, and then you start integrating all
48:49
the personalities, and some people are ninety five percent of the pie and the
48:52
personalities alternate personalities are five percent. So what happens is one they're integrated,
49:00
it's like who are you? I ended up speaking with a form now a
49:07
former friend, about I don't know what I like or dislike, and she
49:12
took me, she had to take me through a process. She said,
49:15
it's like a teenager trial and error, what do you like? What don't
49:19
you like? And you know it's starting over from scratch, an empty slate,
49:27
and that can be very disconcerting. Also, it's like what you've based
49:34
your identity on for so many years is now gone. So what do you
49:38
base your identity on now? So you write your strengths, your weaknesses,
49:45
you it's something to think about what color do you like, do you like
49:50
drawing? Do you like music? What type of music do you like?
49:53
And it's rediscovering yourself through this entire process I mentioned before, which I was
50:00
not aware of that after completing this book, you actually had another one hundred
50:06
and one personalities manifest tell us about that, just a total of actually,
50:10
yeah, over it was a total of one hundred and one total. There
50:15
were some personalities that didn't come forward during my therapy that manifested afterwards. Then
50:27
I would go ahead and under you know, I could still do the integration
50:30
combining process. And because my therapist even told me, she said, we've
50:37
gotten thirteen done. No more want to come forward now, but they may
50:40
in the future. So if you need help, you can call me,
50:44
you can come back to see me and we can go through the process if
50:47
you need help. So even though I knew about the integration process, I
50:52
didn't believe I needed to go back into therapy. And besides then my therapist
51:00
by the time I was thinking about it a few years later, she had
51:04
left the behavior health company went into private practice, and my insurance did not
51:10
cover going to see her. So I just thought, well, and I
51:14
tried other therapists and they were younger than me, and they've never had they
51:20
didn't have the experience. So I was like, Okay, Gloria, you
51:22
know what to do, and you just have to do it. So I
51:27
integrated, and I would wait to ask a personality to integrate when I knew
51:35
I wasn't going to do anything for three to four days because I was usually
51:37
sick for that amount of time, and I just brought them forward and spoke
51:44
with them. And there's an altar room. We call it an alternate room,
51:51
where you where it's like you're sitting in a meeting with other personalities,
51:57
with what you think as other people, and actually those are the the personalities.
52:00
And they would bring me into the room to let them know they were
52:05
there and stuff, and I would ask them their names and they would go
52:10
ahead and push me back out if they didn't want me to know their names
52:15
at that time. But then they started coming to me one on one and
52:20
sometimes two to three at a time. In the short time that we've been
52:25
friends, I've known you to be brilliant, a gifted artist and writer with
52:30
a wonderful sense of humor, and a very very compassionate woman. How long
52:35
did it take you to recognize and believe those things about yourself? It took
52:42
a brain injury. Wasn't until twenty twenty, and I had to fight my
52:49
way back to learning how to walk, oh for any length of time without
52:53
my legs and hips feeling like they were going to fall off, And learning
52:59
how to read back to an adult reading level from a second grade reading level
53:05
and starting to make those accomplishments. Did I recognize what my brain was like
53:10
before the injury to what it was at the present time and learning to speak
53:19
and learning the English language again and recognizing words. It took a brain injury
53:24
for me to realize it. What message would you share with those who are
53:31
experiencing any challenges of this nature? Yeah, professional help. I know that
53:40
it's scary too, you know, get help to read. You only have
53:46
to relive that trauma once, and right now you're reliving that trauma every day
53:53
by your actions, by your words, and and there are people who run
53:58
away from it and that their life isn't getting any better. People you can
54:02
lose your job multiple times and you go from relationship to relationship, but getting
54:12
professional help is the beginning of a better life. And yes, it's going
54:17
to feel different afterwards. It's going to be the unknown, and I know
54:21
a lot of it is the fear of the unknown. But I believe that
54:25
if you get help, you can create a better new future for yourself.
54:32
By getting your help now, Laurie, I want to thank you for writing
54:37
Navigating Life with Multiple Personality Disorder and bringing it to our attention now, because
54:43
the book itself is really gut wrenching. It's all factual and it's amazing how
54:50
you process this disorder and how you came through it and are the gift to
54:54
the world that you are today. So thank you so much. You're welcome,
54:59
Vic, and thank you. Our book is entitled Navigating Life with Multiple
55:05
Personality Disorder. Her name is Gloria Has Gloria, please tell our listeners one
55:09
more time where they can get your book and find out more. You can
55:14
go to Amazon dot com and put in my name or the title of the
55:17
book Navigating Life with Multiple Personality Disorder. It's on Kindle Unlimited, or you
55:22
can purchase it on Kindle, and it's also in paperback. And what are
55:27
some of the other books that they can get there? They can get My
55:30
Journey is a great hybrid extraterrestrial, metaphysical, paranormal visionary encounters about my UFO
55:38
and other metaphysical experiences that I've had. I also wrote a book, Healing
55:46
from the Hurts in your Life. It's a work book and stories from the
55:51
heart and its stories to elevate your life, both both personally and in your
55:54
business life. Lauria, thank you so much, and I am grateful that
56:00
you have found the healing since your incident with your brain injury, and and
56:05
and and can be present for us and share the wisdom and the learning that
56:08
you have and that you've accumulated and your compassionate heart. Thank you so much.
56:13
Thank you, Victor, and thank you for joining us on Vox Novus.
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I'm Victor the Voice Furman. Have a wonderful week.