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Chelsea Sodaro's Late-Night Panic Google · Wellness, Actually with Emily Oster & Perry Wilson, MD

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  Speaker 1: This is parent Data. I'm Emily Ostrom.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, Emily, this is Chelsea Snaro. Hey, I need your help,
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  Speaker 2: give me a hold back and get a chance. Thanks Monny.
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  Speaker 3: Hi Chelsea.
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  Speaker 2: Hey Emily. How's it going.
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  Speaker 3: It's good, okay, So welcome to parent Data podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I would love if you could introduce yourself because I
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  Speaker 1: know you, but listeners do not, maybe or maybe they do.
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  Speaker 2: Sure. Yeah, my name is Chelsea Snaro and I'm a
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  Speaker 2: professional tra athlete. My claim to fame is winning the
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  Speaker 2: iron Man World Championships when my daughter was a year
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  Speaker 2: and a half old, and yeah, I was a kind
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  Speaker 2: of brand new mom just surviving and did this crazy thing.
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  Speaker 3: No, just like we're all surviving, just for the people
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  Speaker 3: who aren't really aware.
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  Speaker 1: Could you maybe say what you do in the What
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  Speaker 1: does the iron Man involve?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's this ridiculous event where we swim three point
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  Speaker 2: eight kilometers, then we bike one hundred and twelve miles,
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  Speaker 2: and then we run a marathon. And at the World
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  Speaker 2: Championships it's usually in Kona, Hawaii, so super hot, human
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  Speaker 2: volcanic environment, and your.
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  Speaker 3: Best event in this is the marathon, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I come from my running background. I ran competitively
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  Speaker 2: in college and post collegiately, and then I found triathlon
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  Speaker 2: in my late twenties and have had this kind of
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  Speaker 2: second go at a pro career. But I really was
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  Speaker 2: starting to find my groove in triathlon around twenty nineteen
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty, and when I realized we were in think
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  Speaker 2: of a pandemic and I wasn't going to get to
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  Speaker 2: race for a while, I decided to choose motherhood and
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  Speaker 2: get pregnant, to have a baby, and then see what
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  Speaker 2: I could do when returning to sport.
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  Speaker 1: What okay, So tell us a little bit about your family,
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  Speaker 1: your family set up.
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  Speaker 3: You have one kid, Sky, right.
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  Speaker 2: I have one kid, yea s guy. She is three.
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  Speaker 2: She is a spicy little lady, but yeah, having a
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  Speaker 2: lot of fun with her. My husband is a trained firefighter,
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  Speaker 2: but he actually left his job last year to be
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  Speaker 2: a stay at home dad and support me in my career.
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  Speaker 2: So we travel all around the world as a little
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  Speaker 2: family of three, going from like training camp, trading camp,
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  Speaker 2: and race to race. And you know, we're quite transient,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a fun journey.
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  Speaker 3: Is is Sky a good traveler? I mean, I guess
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  Speaker 3: she sort of must be.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, she's super adaptable. I guess she started going to
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  Speaker 2: training camp. She went to her first training camp with
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  Speaker 2: me when she was three months old. I raced a
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  Speaker 2: half hired man when I was four months postpartum.
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  Speaker 3: Cool, I know me too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, it's so ridiculous. Also, yeah, it's so interesting.
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  Speaker 2: You know. I kind of was very public about my
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  Speaker 2: return to racing goals when I was pregnant, and I
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  Speaker 2: look back, it's very well documented. Actually, there's this video
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  Speaker 2: of me where I'm nine and a half months pregnant, right,
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  Speaker 2: because pregnancy has ten months, not nine months. People. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I am massive, waddling around my block walking my dog,
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  Speaker 2: and I say, so, here's how it's gonna go. I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna pop out this baby around my due date, and
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  Speaker 2: then I'm going to get back to training a couple
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  Speaker 2: of weeks later after I recover, and I'm gonna race
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  Speaker 2: and it's all gonna be great. And I would have
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  Speaker 2: went that way, but it was a challenge for sure.
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  Speaker 1: So let let me ask you, what is your late
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  Speaker 1: night panic Google?
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  Speaker 3: Right now?
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  Speaker 2: My late night panic Google right now?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, or ever you gave me any late night Chelsea.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I was thinking about this, Emily, because I had
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  Speaker 2: this like ridiculous late night panic Google that started during
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  Speaker 2: my pregnancy and then persisted probably during the first year
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  Speaker 2: of Sky's life. Okay, so you didn't get any ridiculous,
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  Speaker 2: Well I did, but I didn't. I didn't. I was
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  Speaker 2: obsessed with baby wipes. I don't know why, like I
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  Speaker 2: got fixated on this, but I sort of thought like
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  Speaker 2: my choice and baby wipes was going to determine, you know,
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  Speaker 2: her long term life success, like whether or not she
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  Speaker 2: was gonna get get into Harvard or be like a
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  Speaker 2: world class athlete or and whatever. You know. So I
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  Speaker 2: did a lot of research on baby wipes.
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  Speaker 3: What about So it's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody sent me a panic Google email the other day
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  Speaker 1: asking if chlorox wipes led to autism, and interesting, I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't able to answer it because I couldn't even figure
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  Speaker 1: out where they had gotten this from. You know, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it's like you can point to something and be like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that must be where it's from. But this was a
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  Speaker 1: case where I just I have no idea what they're
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  Speaker 1: talking about, and so I wasn't able to be to
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  Speaker 1: be helpful.
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  Speaker 3: But what what is the question you have?
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  Speaker 2: What did you happen?
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  Speaker 3: Babies?
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  Speaker 2: The deal is I thought I was like so broad,
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  Speaker 2: which was maybe part of my problem. But I cannot
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  Speaker 2: tell you how many times I googled what are the
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  Speaker 2: best baby wipes?
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  Speaker 3: What is Google tell you about the best baby whips?
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  Speaker 2: You know what? The the one that populates most is
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  Speaker 2: the water wipes. And water wipes sound nice, right, because
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  Speaker 2: it's like just water, and that's seems pretty clean and
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  Speaker 2: basic and it should be fine. But the water wipes
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  Speaker 2: are not just water. There's like all sorts of chemicals
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  Speaker 2: in the water wipes, and they are not the most
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  Speaker 2: natural wipes. And I like message several friends about like
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  Speaker 2: what wipes they were using? What wipes were going to
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  Speaker 2: be the best? Yeah, natural, safe choice for my kids, booty,
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  Speaker 2: And I ultimately like had to make a decision, right
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  Speaker 2: because this baby came and like we needed a wipe
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  Speaker 2: or buy Yeah, But I never got like a conclusive
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  Speaker 2: Maybe you could write this about this in your newsletter,
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  Speaker 2: because I never got a conclusive answer on what would
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  Speaker 2: you know lead to lifelong success for Sky based on
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  Speaker 2: baby whites? Right?
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  Speaker 1: I think it's it's a hard thing to write about
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  Speaker 1: in the news ever, because I'm but I'll tell you
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  Speaker 1: the answer now, which is it doesn't matter at all.
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  Speaker 3: What kind of wipes you use, uh, for your for
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  Speaker 3: your baby.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that, yeah, yeah, in part because I guess
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  Speaker 1: one thing you worry about is chemicals.
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  Speaker 3: And you know this this.
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  Speaker 1: Generally there are some kinds of chemical exposure that we could.
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  Speaker 3: Worry about, but most of the ways that your kids.
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  Speaker 1: Are exposed to chemicals are through like the environment and
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  Speaker 1: water and other kinds of things, and not through baby wipes. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and beyond that, the only really bad thing that can
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  Speaker 1: happen with baby wipes is diaper rash.
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  Speaker 3: And as amocophore on that and then it's over.
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  Speaker 2: It's so interesting when you're in this like really, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I will ultimately write a very like sleep deprived state
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  Speaker 2: where you're probably not thinking super rationally and small things
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  Speaker 2: because totally you know, very big things. But for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 2: like this was the area where I decided I could
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  Speaker 2: gain some like control in the situation.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's it is such a good It is such
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  Speaker 1: a good example of one of these things that just
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  Speaker 1: occupies the mind of you as a new parent and
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  Speaker 1: when you look back, probably as a parent of a
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  Speaker 1: three year old, certainly for me as a parent of
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  Speaker 1: a thirteen year old when I look back at some
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  Speaker 1: of the things that I obsessed about, Like should my
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  Speaker 1: kid wear mittens? That was like a huge thing for
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  Speaker 1: me because my mom told me that if she wore
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  Speaker 1: mittens baby mittens, she would never learn to use her hands,
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  Speaker 1: which like, is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: Is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, I'm like, look, I'm googling, like, what kind
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  Speaker 1: of academic papers have been written about mittens? No, there's none.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously this is an insane idea, but it is. This
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  Speaker 1: just sort of so emblematic of the stuff that we
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  Speaker 1: get obsessed with when our kids are little, and we
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  Speaker 1: everything seems like scary and fraught and anxiety provoking.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, I I'm not like ready to have another kid.
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  Speaker 2: I think I don't know if I'll choose to have
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  Speaker 2: another kid while I'm still competing, But I'm I'm definitely curious,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like the second go around, you're a little
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  Speaker 2: more rational. Yeah, if I'll be less.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Producer Tomorrow wants to know if you thought about
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  Speaker 1: wipe warmers. Was wipe warmer's part of your concern?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, you know what, It wasn't part of part of
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  Speaker 2: my concern because very like early on in the process,
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  Speaker 2: of kind of building a registry and like deciding on
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  Speaker 2: the things we needed. We were warned not to get
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  Speaker 2: a wipe warmer, okay, because it would totally ruin her.
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  Speaker 1: It is the number I think the number one thing
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  Speaker 1: when I surveyed people about baby things that you need
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  Speaker 1: or don't need. I think it was the number one
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  Speaker 1: thing that people said, don't get was it wipe warmer,
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  Speaker 1: because they're like, it's it's a waste and they just
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  Speaker 1: get used to it and then you can't wipe their butt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, gold Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were warned not not
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  Speaker 2: you know, give her that creature comfort early on.
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  Speaker 3: Totally. You gotta just like get them used to a
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  Speaker 3: cold butt, just like from.
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  Speaker 2: The retrospect, doesn't it feel like that would be a
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  Speaker 2: nice thing to have?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: And of course, I mean, wouldn't you like like an
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  Speaker 1: nice warm this is like Japanese toilets, you know, wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: we all like a nice warm spray in our butt?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah? I would like that. But now she's now and
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  Speaker 3: now she presumed maybe she uses the bathroom.
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  Speaker 2: On her own, and she does. She's crushing it. She's
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  Speaker 2: like fond potty training. Yeah, it's so fun. She uh
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  Speaker 2: does this really great thing where we have like a
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  Speaker 2: lot of talk about like peeing and pooping now, but
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  Speaker 2: she does this really great. I don't know if this
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  Speaker 2: is normal. I should google this. She will like poop
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  Speaker 2: and she'll look at her poops and she'll blow them
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  Speaker 2: and kiss goodbye, and she'll say pie poopies, and it's
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  Speaker 2: the whole thing. Yeah, it is.
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  Speaker 1: It is quite normal for kids to feel a level
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  Speaker 1: of attachment to their poop, which is different from adults.
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  Speaker 1: And this is part of why kids sometimes have a
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  Speaker 1: hard time pooping on the potty, because it feels like
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  Speaker 1: you're like losing an arm when the poop falls.
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's like a like an important body part.
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  Speaker 2: Has been.
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  Speaker 3: Does it make sense? Does it make too much sense?
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  Speaker 2: I just yeah, I love it.
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  Speaker 3: No, I love it. Goodbye, blow to kiss. It's so
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  Speaker 3: so nice. It's so like generous and thoughtful.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know it's great. I'm I think I've learned.
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  Speaker 2: I love my baby and I think she is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like God's gift to the universe. But I'm way more
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  Speaker 2: into this like toddler three year old days than I
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  Speaker 2: was into the newborn.
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  Speaker 3: Are you going to get her into Traathon I hope not.
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  Speaker 2: We need like a fund sport. Traathlon is a type
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  Speaker 2: two sort of fun, you know, like the fun when
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  Speaker 2: you're finished. Yeah, And I think it'd be cool if
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  Speaker 2: she was into something that was fun while you're actually doing.
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  Speaker 3: It, like soccer or badminton.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe like tennis, okay, anything like that. But she's gonna
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  Speaker 2: find she's gonna get into whatever she gets into, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm not really that bothered.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Chelsea, it was great to talk to you.
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  Speaker 2: You too, have a great week.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you you two MM