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Friends in Lowe Places with Catherine Lowe · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with her radio Welcome to the Almost Famous podcast. Today
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  Speaker 1: it is just me and I am joined by Katherine Dull. Wait,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, how do I even say your last
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  Speaker 1: year original last name? Joe? Are you glad that it's done? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I know, but okay, it's not gone. So have you
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  Speaker 1: changed your name for real? For real? Or just go
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  Speaker 1: by Low? Is that a secret? So? Sometimes I know?
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  Speaker 1: And he actually this this year he wants me to
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  Speaker 1: finally give him my give trade it out. So why
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  Speaker 1: is that this year? Because my plan is maybe when
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  Speaker 1: the kids start going to school, and I know that Samuel,
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  Speaker 1: your oldest is starting is a kindergartener, first grade kindergarten.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you're so so what's is that? Why
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  Speaker 1: is it because like we're becoming like official in the
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  Speaker 1: school stuff. Yeah, finally saying, but anyways, it's fine. Are
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  Speaker 1: you attached me too? Yes? I mean it's a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more flavor than they have. So, uh, that's because
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  Speaker 1: exactly because you and I are going from Italian cool
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  Speaker 1: last names to like very black like Low and Haydn.
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  Speaker 1: I am white. Oh my gosh. Yeah, so I don't
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  Speaker 1: know when I'll do it, but I'll do it. But
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  Speaker 1: I have so many questions about motherhood and wifehood marriage
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  Speaker 1: that I have a whole different life now than when
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  Speaker 1: we last had you on the show. I was a
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  Speaker 1: wife when you were on the show, but like being
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  Speaker 1: a mom and a wife, it just it's totally different.
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  Speaker 1: So first question is do you and Sean have similar
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  Speaker 1: parenting styles? And when is the time to kind of
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  Speaker 1: go about those conversations. I guess like right away? Right Well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't honestly, I don't even know what you would
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  Speaker 1: have a conversation about before parents, before you actually parent them,
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  Speaker 1: because when you're doing it, it is very different. Um
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  Speaker 1: things that happen organically, We are definitely very very similar
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  Speaker 1: in how it actually plays out. So we didn't Neither
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  Speaker 1: one of us are very pres like um planned people
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  Speaker 1: were kind of lax in general, and so I think
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  Speaker 1: that kind of goes into our parenting styles. So we
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  Speaker 1: couldn't have a conversation about it. Where we had kids,
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  Speaker 1: we had no idea what to expect. So yeah, and
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  Speaker 1: now now we're totally the same. We love to be
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  Speaker 1: together as a family and that's like our number one priority,
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  Speaker 1: and that that makes it nice for both of us
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  Speaker 1: to be to have that single So when you're in
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  Speaker 1: my position, you had seven month olds and you've done
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  Speaker 1: it three times, so I need advice from you. And
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  Speaker 1: I know that there's a lot of young moms and
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  Speaker 1: my to be that listen to this podcast. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't think this is just pertaining to me. Strict scheduling
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  Speaker 1: with a baby, Like how do you do a life
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  Speaker 1: and have scheduling for a baby? And I mean doing
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  Speaker 1: it three times? Sleep training, like I I'm very bad
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  Speaker 1: at all of this. Well, I think that every family
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  Speaker 1: is so different, and their schedule is different, and their
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  Speaker 1: goals are different. There's a lot of and I love
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  Speaker 1: to just respect what other people want to do because
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  Speaker 1: every every family is different. So if you want, as
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  Speaker 1: a mom, if you want to go out to dinner,
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  Speaker 1: bring the baby um and have them sleep during that time,
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  Speaker 1: that is totally up to you. You have the instincts
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  Speaker 1: for your child. I totally think that you should just
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  Speaker 1: trust what you know that and you you know if
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  Speaker 1: your baby can handle something or not. You can test
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  Speaker 1: it out, you can have amnesia and try it out again.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there's that's every day for me. Every day
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  Speaker 1: I have a regained spirit of hope that like it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be I'm gonna do the same thing and it's
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  Speaker 1: going to be different. But then again that's also known
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  Speaker 1: as um what is it just being stupid? Well, my
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  Speaker 1: my sister in law told me something that was really
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  Speaker 1: profound that I still like to say is it's their
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  Speaker 1: first time too, so they don't know any different. They
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  Speaker 1: know what they know from you, and I think mostly
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  Speaker 1: in any of the scheduling and any of the parenting things,
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  Speaker 1: they mostly read your energy and that's how they're going
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  Speaker 1: to kind of react. So if your chill and you
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  Speaker 1: go out to dinner and you want to take them
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  Speaker 1: to dinner, hold them and do the same kinds of things,
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  Speaker 1: I think they're going to read more of your energy
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  Speaker 1: and like you're if you're settled in at peace, then
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  Speaker 1: if they're going to bed. But that's that's told. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like people know their schedule, they know their comfortability level.
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  Speaker 1: So I think trying stuff out and seeing what works
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  Speaker 1: through your family is the best way to go about it.
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  Speaker 1: Got ya, thank you, thank you for that advice. And
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  Speaker 1: then on the marriage front, you did this with Sean,
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  Speaker 1: So now I'm really curious, and I feel like, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like a lot of people have to do this.
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  Speaker 1: I get this is my questions a lot. You moved
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  Speaker 1: to his home state, his home town, right, and why
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  Speaker 1: was that and how did you deal with it? Well, honestly,
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  Speaker 1: he had a very solid family situation here. I grew
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  Speaker 1: up next door to five cousins, uncle, Auntie, and grandma.
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  Speaker 1: So doesn't that make you sad that you're away from that?
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  Speaker 1: But they aren't in the same place anymore. My sister
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  Speaker 1: lives in France, my other sister lives in Oakland. My
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  Speaker 1: dad lives in Mexico. So like they're all kind of disjointed.
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  Speaker 1: So the only way I could try to recreate that
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  Speaker 1: is to stay here, gotcha? Okay, Okay, I like that.
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  Speaker 1: That's nice. All right. I know you guys can't see Katherine,
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  Speaker 1: but she looks stunning and I, well, I have to
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  Speaker 1: to talk about you know, this really cool big thing
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  Speaker 1: that you're doing. You're teaming up with Lysol to talk
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  Speaker 1: about healthy schools um It is their initiative here for
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  Speaker 1: Healthy Schools as a program designed to help welcome children
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  Speaker 1: back to clean, disinfected classrooms while enabling students to learn
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  Speaker 1: and thrive in an educational environment. So, I guess this
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  Speaker 1: is the first full year that a lot of kids
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  Speaker 1: will be going back to in person learning. Did you
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  Speaker 1: have to deal with any of that remote learning for
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  Speaker 1: your kids, because I mean you got young young that's
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  Speaker 1: we didn't really were are very blessed to not have
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  Speaker 1: been affected, but now going back into school knowing that
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  Speaker 1: we can trust that they're going to thrive together. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: they love being together. My kids love to be with
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  Speaker 1: their siblings, but it's a totally different dynamic when you're
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  Speaker 1: with kids that are your age learning the same thing,
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  Speaker 1: going through life together. And LISOL with the Here for
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  Speaker 1: Healthy Schools initiatives, so it's such a strong campaign because
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  Speaker 1: parents and educators all want the same thing for their
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  Speaker 1: child is to learn and thrive at school together. And
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  Speaker 1: so what what Lifesol is doing is making sure that
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  Speaker 1: it's a clean environment, a safe environment for the kids
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  Speaker 1: to go and for the parents to trust that they're
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  Speaker 1: sending them to go learn and not to go be scared.
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  Speaker 1: They're also doing this really cool thing on YouTube. It's
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  Speaker 1: a series called Big Little Big Talk, and they put
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  Speaker 1: kids in a room together and it's not really led
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  Speaker 1: by an adult. The kids just carry on these conversations.
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  Speaker 1: I guess they'll be given a topic or are lad
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  Speaker 1: in to a conversation and they could just talk to
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  Speaker 1: each other maybe, or they're just yeah or yeah, who knows.
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  Speaker 1: It's really adorable. You're you're gonna cry when you watch
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  Speaker 1: it because you try. I cry. Yeah, it's so it's YouTube.
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  Speaker 1: It's so cute watching these kids. I just started cafteria
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  Speaker 1: duty at my kid's kindergarten, and it's just so fun
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  Speaker 1: to watch them have authentic conversations with their friends. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what they're talking about. They're talking about silly
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  Speaker 1: stuff that kids should be talking about, and we're making
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  Speaker 1: sure that the lunch table is clean, and they're just
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  Speaker 1: being their authentic selves and talking. It's so you can
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  Speaker 1: give example as a couple of conversations that are already
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  Speaker 1: up on their YouTube. Um, I think someone talked about
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  Speaker 1: like a like something creaked in the background and they
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  Speaker 1: were like, oh, was that a ghost. It's just cute
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  Speaker 1: innocent moments of these kids saying what they ate for
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  Speaker 1: lunch and what are they doing after school? And there's
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  Speaker 1: this one girl who's gabbing about herself and all the
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  Speaker 1: other kids are laughing because she's just she won't let
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  Speaker 1: anyone else talk. It's it's just innocent moments that if
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  Speaker 1: you have parents of young children that are of talking age,
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  Speaker 1: you can understand that that's that's really how they act,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what they want to do, is not have
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  Speaker 1: a parent be listening or a teacher be listening on
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  Speaker 1: their conversation. And they're just really sweet, innocent conversation. But
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  Speaker 1: they're still and yet at the same time they seem
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  Speaker 1: so adult. I'm like, how these kids so articulate and
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  Speaker 1: there's like so in touch with everything. Um, there's this
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  Speaker 1: one that was about like talking about when they feel
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  Speaker 1: most confident or something like that. It was really adorable. Guy.
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  Speaker 1: So it's on Liceose YouTube. Um, all right, So I
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  Speaker 1: have to ask more personal questions as far as like
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  Speaker 1: mothering and stuff. How do you possibly have a second child,
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  Speaker 1: how do you have like how how at that point
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  Speaker 1: liked you go? And I would like to add more
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  Speaker 1: chaos to my life you'll get over the hop don't
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  Speaker 1: worry is over and then like, yes, well, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like so for us, seven months was probably the time
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  Speaker 1: where it was the transitioning time. We did sleep training
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  Speaker 1: until seven months. They were out of our room at
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  Speaker 1: seven months seven and a half eight months is when
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  Speaker 1: they were in their own room, and so that was
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  Speaker 1: a totally different chapter in parenting. And then for you know,
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  Speaker 1: four months whatever, we got sleep and we're like, wow,
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  Speaker 1: we could because the love that you get from this child,
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  Speaker 1: and like you and your partner get to witness and
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  Speaker 1: experience is so wonderful and overwhelming. When you get sleep
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  Speaker 1: and you're not like completely zombie. You got like four
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  Speaker 1: hours of sleep and a two hours of wave, you're
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  Speaker 1: you decide, oh let's do this again. Oh yeah, we're
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  Speaker 1: going we're going through something right now. It's been two
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  Speaker 1: straight months of him waking up every three ish hours. Um,
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  Speaker 1: it's with he's waking up with a lot of gas too,
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  Speaker 1: Like he's like throwing his legs up in the air
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  Speaker 1: and it's like tooting and in a really hard belly. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: we're trying to figure things out, but it is definitely
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  Speaker 1: difficult now. But of course we're going to have another one,
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's like, but of course, and you
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  Speaker 1: need that fit. Like I keep Jared's like, are you kidding?
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  Speaker 1: Like Jared wants to have like that family of four,
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  Speaker 1: but he also is like, how in the world we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do it? We can't do it now. Do you
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  Speaker 1: find it easier to your kids are like kind of
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  Speaker 1: like to two years apart, all the way through to
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  Speaker 1: two and a half years apart, which is I think
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  Speaker 1: the perfect age difference. Is it easier when like the
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  Speaker 1: kids starts to be able to communicate and walk and
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  Speaker 1: all that stuff, to be able to add to the family. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean you get to have this really, I feel
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  Speaker 1: like seven months when when you get to have our twins,
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  Speaker 1: that's really overwhelming and you can't really fully be present
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  Speaker 1: in the magic that is a one child. Because I
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  Speaker 1: remember one of my favorite trips I ever took was
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  Speaker 1: in New York with Samuel and he wasn't yet a
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  Speaker 1: year and it was the best type of my best buddy.
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  Speaker 1: We spend days just exploring the city together and I
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  Speaker 1: still got to do what I wanted to do. But
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  Speaker 1: you kind of it's just it's a it's a very
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  Speaker 1: special time. And I think right after his one year
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  Speaker 1: is when we started to decide to have a second child.
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  Speaker 1: But you still have those times, you still have those
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  Speaker 1: moments for nine more months. Um. So I just I
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  Speaker 1: think siblings are so special. I have really great sisters,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm so grateful to have sisters, and I'm very
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  Speaker 1: blessed to be able to give my children siblings. Speaking
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  Speaker 1: of siblings, I hear that you're interested in adopting. Is
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  Speaker 1: this something we were going to be doing or I mean,
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  Speaker 1: obviously you're not going to confirm here, but is that really?
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  Speaker 1: Is that on your Is that on your goal list
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  Speaker 1: for the near future? I think so. Right when I
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  Speaker 1: met Shallow and I met his family, he was very
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  Speaker 1: interested in adopting. And I'm open to it for sure.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's such a commitment, um and something that
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  Speaker 1: you have to be fully one on board with. So
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  Speaker 1: we're a race reaching it. We're exploring. We love our
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  Speaker 1: family right now. Um. I love to I love biologically
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  Speaker 1: giving birth and having the breaste. I love it. You
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  Speaker 1: love biologically giving birth. That is a special thing to say.
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  Speaker 1: I like having a baby. I like to be pregnant,
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  Speaker 1: I like the breast beating stage. I love infant stage.
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  Speaker 1: Next time for me, Like, can you want you want
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  Speaker 1: to be my surrogates? I actually did look into being
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  Speaker 1: a surrogate because I had so. I mean, that's how
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  Speaker 1: my do enjoy being pregnant and having babies. But our
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  Speaker 1: family is really perfect right now. So we're gonna we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna continue to learn and explore that very beautiful commitment
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  Speaker 1: of adoption. But right now we're it's a lot of
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  Speaker 1: chaos from here. I feel yeah, I feel you. Isn't
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  Speaker 1: it weird the way that we both have kids that
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  Speaker 1: are like blue eyed and blondish haired, Like I know,
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  Speaker 1: I understand, Danny, I am nanny author, Yeah, how can
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  Speaker 1: I talk with my mom? Is like people are going
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  Speaker 1: to think that you're that's you're the nanny because I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I understand genetically how he got blue eyes?
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  Speaker 1: Do you does your family have any background of blue eyes?
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  Speaker 1: My dad was blonde and like green eyes growing up. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, they just put Trauma's jeans are strong. I
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  Speaker 1: guess brown baby over here? Yeah yeah, yeah, um, I noticed.
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  Speaker 1: Probably he's the next one is definitely gonna be probably
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  Speaker 1: what I imagine looking at I'm like dust and it
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  Speaker 1: is absolutely insane, like in this world beautiful, but I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I know that next time this or sibling is going
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  Speaker 1: to have to be it's gonna be brown. And that's
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  Speaker 1: simply is gonna be jealous of all your blue eyes
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  Speaker 1: for the rest of its life anyway. Um, And then
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  Speaker 1: we want to ask a question on behalf of Ben
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  Speaker 1: and Jess. What do you it was there a time
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  Speaker 1: that you and Sean were like, Okay, it's now, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to have kids now, Um, we feel settled and
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  Speaker 1: ready for the next chapter or do you think that
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  Speaker 1: people never really feel ready or are prepared for it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that people even know what to prepare
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  Speaker 1: for unless you're like really a nanny for like something
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  Speaker 1: in the childcare m um. We all three of them
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  Speaker 1: were surprised mos, like really in the fact that like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: maybe maybe we'll start trying or you know, but I
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  Speaker 1: think having again. Family planning is such a subjective thing
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  Speaker 1: that whatever makes sense for the couple and make, you know,
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  Speaker 1: if they don't ever want to have kids, whatever, if
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  Speaker 1: they want to have kids before they get married, or
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  Speaker 1: if they want to kids when they're you know, like
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  Speaker 1: at their honeymoon, and I feel like it's such a
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  Speaker 1: subjective thing that you just have to be on the
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  Speaker 1: same page as your partner. That's it, because it's your
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  Speaker 1: life that will be changed and you have to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that that person is going to be there because
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  Speaker 1: you need. Partners are so important when you have young children.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't have done it without Shawn Law like him
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  Speaker 1: as Sean Low. I know, I'm sorry if you're that
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  Speaker 1: or dad, it is hilarious. Do you call him like
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  Speaker 1: when you're calling him around the house Shanlo, Shan Low daddy,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: and then if I'm like introducing Shawl, Yeah, that's I
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  Speaker 1: think hilarious and I love it. Is weird. I don't
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: know Sean thinks too like I don't know, foreign to me. Yeah,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: but it just seems like too casual. I don't know,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's weird. It's absolutely hilarious and I
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: love it. Do you ever get tired of talking about
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: mommy stuff? Because I do feel like one. No, okay, Yeah,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: It's definitely like one of those things that once you
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: are a mom, your whole life revolves around the child.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: That it's it's nice to talk to other people about
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: it because it's new. You like, want to just find
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: that commonality. You're not annoying them. I have friends that
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: don't have kids, and I feel like I'm annoying that
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I talk about my kids. So yeah, it's it's it's
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: easy to talk to other moms, especially in similar stages
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: of life, because I mean, that's it's your life, it's
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: your it's a huge part of your life. So I
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, and I'm never tired of it. Okay,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Well that's nice because I'm sure you're interviewed about it
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: all the time. Do people still talk to you about
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: the franchise whenever you see them. Do you feel an
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: obligation to keep up with it? I do, I do,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: but I also just enjoy it. I think what they've
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: created has consisted, we evolved, um to keep up with
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: what the viewers want, and I appreciate what they do.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: It's it's really entertaining television, uh that in Paradise. I
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: really just enjoy it. You know. It is a commitment,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: um and I never watched it before I was on it,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: But I definitely support them still because I think it's
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: I kind of want to still be in the family
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: and if somebody you know, needs me to help them,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: because like I helped some people during Dancing the Stars
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: because it's a very challenging time because partner, he did
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: it while you are together, and a lot of times
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: those relationships don't work. Yeah, So I like to kind
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: of keep up so that if somebody needs me and
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: it's just entertaining. Would you give a Gabby, Like, are
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: you assuming that Gabby is with somebody now she's doing
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Engaging with the Stars or do you think that she's
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: not with somebody because she's doing Dancing with the Stars.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: That's a good question. I was thinking maybe she's not. Yeah,
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: me too. I don't think that the show really wants
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: them exactly like The Bachelor wants them to do it.
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: I think they discourage them. But Caitlin did it. But
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Caitlin did it years later, you know oh she yeah, yeah,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: because she finally got to do it. But yeah, I mean,
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know though, because Gabby is really popular and
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: maybe this they're gonna try again. Yeah, maybe it's actually good.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: I know the girl as that instead of the guy. Yeah.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Well okay, but before I let you go, I just
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: gotta I gotta know what are your final predictions for
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: this season. Who are the girls ending up with anybody
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: or not? Um? And as a whole, and how was
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: your take on the two bachelorettes. It was a challenge,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I think for all around, everybody kind of knew it
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: was going to be a challenging season, a different one,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: unperson and one, and I think they handled it well.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Jesse's doing a great job. Um. I hope that they
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: end up with people. I love Eric for Gabby, UM,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I don't know. For Rachel, I really don't know, but
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to see. I think Rachel seems like somebody
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: who is gonna be in it for the long haul
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: thing with Gabby. But I've just been really enjoyed watching
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: this season and I support them. It had to have
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: been so tough to be in that position, especially during
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: the early weeks. It's kind of taking control. UM, So
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I know it was. It was definitely a hard watch
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: to watch the girls feel not in the lead in that,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it was. It was good to watch and
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I support them whatever they shoose do all right. Well, Catherine,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: I could continue talking to you over and over um
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: for hours, because I want to know how you can
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: look so cute and have three kids and like how
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: your house can look all it's cute and all that stuff,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: But I have to let you go right now again, guys.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: Katherine is teaming up with LISOL for their Here for
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Healthy Schools initiative to keep schools nice and clean, and
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: you can check out their YouTube um series which is
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: Little Big Talk. Katherine, think you so much for being here.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon. Thank you. Follow the Benn
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