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- 0:00What is going on, beautiful people?
- 0:02Today we are talking about can a narcissist have a healthy
- 0:07relationship If you're new here, My name is Lee Hammock.
- 0:10I'm a clinically diagnosed narcissist and welcome to
- 0:12another episode of the Narcissist Code.
- 0:32So welcome back, welcome back, welcome back, folks.
- 0:34Yes, yes, yes. This is one of the, yeah, people
- 0:38see me as a diagnosed narcissist and I'm still married.
- 0:41I still have my kids and whatnot.
- 0:43They see me and how I'm making my relationship work, how we are
- 0:47existing and things like that. And they one of the questions a
- 0:51lot of people ask me, especially if you think, especially if they
- 0:54think that they are dealing with a narcissist, is, can a
- 0:57narcissist have a healthy relationship?
- 0:59Is it possible? Will it ever be healthy?
- 1:01And will they ever realize what they've done?
- 1:03So is how do I say this while I was making it sound bad?
- 1:07Because I don't want it to sound bad?
- 1:08Y'all because it it is. It is a tough topic to deal
- 1:12with. It's a tough subject to deal
- 1:13with. Overall, how can it be healthy?
- 1:17You know how What is? Ask yourself this question.
- 1:20I mean, ask yourself this question right here.
- 1:22What does healthy look like to you?
- 1:25If if you if healthy to you means we're communicating in a
- 1:29great way. We're we're having healthy,
- 1:32we're we're talking and I'm being.
- 1:34My voice is being heard. Their voice is being heard.
- 1:37They feel even if they feel safe to talk to me, I feel safe to
- 1:41talk to them. They treat the kids with loving
- 1:43care, respect. All this stuff is going good,
- 1:46then typically yeah. If that's your answer of what a
- 1:49healthy relationship looks like, then typically the answer for a
- 1:52narcissist. A real full blown narcissist.
- 1:54It's probably going to be no, it will never get to that point.
- 1:58Because most narcissistic people, especially the ones that
- 2:01are not working on themselves, are not going to have that
- 2:04ability to feel safe. The ability to feel safe in the
- 2:09relationship in order to treat their kids good, in order to
- 2:12treat their partners, treat their partners well.
- 2:14Most narcissists are not going to have that ability.
- 2:16And that sucks to say because I'm in a relationship, you see
- 2:19me doing what I'm doing, but I'm in.
- 2:22I've been in therapy for almost 7 years.
- 2:24Y'all me. I've been battling the therapy
- 2:26journey for almost 7 years. This is year seven right here.
- 2:29I'm entering year seven of therapy and whatnot, and I'm in.
- 2:34My relationship is not perfect. I still struggle.
- 2:37We battle back and forth here and there, but we are.
- 2:39There's a level of communication that existed when that was never
- 2:42there before, Like because I'm in therapy, my wife is also in
- 2:46therapy, and we've also done some marriage counseling.
- 2:48There's been a lot of wheels turning within our relationship.
- 2:51A lot of gears have been turning within our relationship to make
- 2:55it work, to make it have a healthier environment.
- 2:59You know, because I said more, a lot of some people don't use the
- 3:02word healthy. They used the word normal.
- 3:04They say, can the narcissist have a normal relationship?
- 3:07And again, I'm with y'all, I answer questions with questions.
- 3:10You know, why do you always answer a question with a
- 3:13question? I'm inquisitive.
- 3:14What movie did they come from? Put that in the Yeah, I put
- 3:16that. I'm in.
- 3:17Why do you always answer a question with a question?
- 3:19I'm inquisitive. Put that.
- 3:21What movie is that from? Y'all.
- 3:23Put it in the screen. Put it.
- 3:24Look, put it. Drop it in the comment section.
- 3:27What movie that came from That comment right there.
- 3:29And I'll pin the comment. The first one I see, the first
- 3:31one Who leaves it? That's the correct movie.
- 3:34But yeah, ask yourself the question.
- 3:39What does normal look like to you?
- 3:42What is normal? I always answer questions with
- 3:44questions. What does normal look like to
- 3:46you? Does normal?
- 3:47Does normal consist of those same things the healthy consist
- 3:50of We're emotionally safe where we hold hands and walk on the
- 3:54beach and talk about our feelings that probably that
- 3:58probably won't happen right there.
- 3:59We all just skipping through the sunset and holding hands on the
- 4:02beach and the waves are cresting in the background and the moon
- 4:06is rising and the sun is setting at the same time and you have
- 4:09that. You know there's a eclipse and
- 4:11y'all y'all skipping towards a picnic on the beach and the kids
- 4:14are there, you know, just just just like they have matching
- 4:17outfits on y'all that probably doesn't exist.
- 4:20A narcissist might do that for a photo opportunity to make their
- 4:24reputation look good, but in realistically they're not going
- 4:27to want to do that. That type of stuff.
- 4:28Y'all, you know what I mean. Like normal and healthy.
- 4:31I don't think normal and healthy exists in a relationship with
- 4:34the narcissist. Even in my relationship we got
- 4:37well I go what we call, we go through what I call new normal.
- 4:42It's like it's a new normal. It doesn't mean it's bad, it
- 4:44doesn't mean it's great, It just means it's a new normal.
- 4:47Like we exist very well now. We there's a lot of love in the
- 4:50house now. Like because I'm super self
- 4:53aware I've I become more self aware every single day of how my
- 4:56how my actions and my words affect people around me.
- 4:59So because I'm super self aware of that, I'm able to curtail a
- 5:02lot of the stuff that I might say or do wrong.
- 5:05You know, I might be able to curtail whatever, like if she
- 5:09says something to me to correct something I've done wrong.
- 5:12I don't take it as criticism, I take it as them.
- 5:14She's really just trying to help me, you know?
- 5:16So we are able to talk. She feels safe enough to talk.
- 5:19She feels emotionally safe and vulnerable to me.
- 5:21I feel safe and vulnerable to her a lot more than I used to.
- 5:24You know, is that narcissistic person going to be able to go
- 5:28work on themselves to be able to feel emotionally safe and
- 5:30vulnerable with you? Ask yourself that question right
- 5:33there. Y'all these are.
- 5:34And I say that because it's a tough for you to.
- 5:37You have to answer that question yourself.
- 5:39Look at your relationship. How long has your relationship
- 5:42been going on? You know how long has has this
- 5:45relationship? How long has this level been
- 5:47going on of mistreatment of bad behaviours?
- 5:51How have they shown you? I'm asking you this question as
- 5:53well. Have they shown you the ability
- 5:56to be consistent with anything in your relationship other than
- 5:59treating you bad? I mean long term consistency.
- 6:03I don't mean a week, a couple weeks or whatever.
- 6:06I don't mean picking up a hobby where they start fishing every
- 6:09week or whatever or go hunting or, you know, whatever they like
- 6:12to do. I'm not saying that right there.
- 6:14I'm saying what whatever, like have they shown consistency with
- 6:20being able to put their to set a goal to be healthier, to do, to
- 6:26go live a healthier, better life?
- 6:27Have they been able to do that? Because the answer to that
- 6:30question most times is going to be no.
- 6:32They have been showing. The only thing they've been
- 6:33consistent with is being inconsistent in your
- 6:35relationship. The only consistency is it's it.
- 6:39It's a tongue twister right there.
- 6:40The only red leather, yellow leather, unique New York.
- 6:45The only consistency is inconsistency.
- 6:48You see like they only be consistent with treating you
- 6:52badly. They'll only be consistent with
- 6:54manipulation. They've only been consistent
- 6:56with gaslighting. Like what are, what are the good
- 6:59things? And like I said again, even if
- 7:02they've been consistent outside of doing that type of stuff,
- 7:04what have they been with? What have they been consistent
- 7:07with that is beneficial to other people and not as beneficial to
- 7:10them? Yeah, it's directly beneficial
- 7:14to other people and not as beneficial to them.
- 7:18You say you have to ask yourself these deep, these these deep
- 7:21questions right here, y'all because these questions help you
- 7:24determine I'm not like I'm not trying to tell you how to leave
- 7:26your relationship. That's not this is not what my
- 7:27channel is dedicated for. I know people, they how I talk
- 7:30or how maybe how I used to present it made it seem like I
- 7:33wanted everybody to leave their ties to relationship.
- 7:35That's not my my goal here is to raise as much awareness as I can
- 7:40to people to let you know that, hey, look, this is what's going
- 7:43on. Look, here's the I'm I'm trying
- 7:45to provide you as much information as I possibly can so
- 7:48you can make a conscientious decision whether or not you want
- 7:51to stay in this relationship. You can make the conscientious
- 7:54decision whether or not you want to keep moving forward, you want
- 7:56to stop. It's up to you.
- 7:58I won't make people to make the decision on their own.
- 8:01You see, that's my goal right there is to help people make the
- 8:04decision on their own in order to keep moving forward.
- 8:08Like, ask yourself these questions because you can.
- 8:09If you can, you can ask look how comfortable, how safe do you
- 8:14feel your relationship is that narcissistic person that you're
- 8:17dealing with, Are they really, you know, are they going to
- 8:24commit to going to therapy for the rest of their lives at least
- 8:27long term therapy, I don't say the rest of their life.
- 8:29Long term therapy, long term psychotherapy, long term
- 8:34counselling, long term something.
- 8:38If it's going to make your relationship better long term,
- 8:40putting in the work, are they willing to do that?
- 8:43Is there is there something that goes on that's going to show you
- 8:46that they're willing to do this? You know, because they have to
- 8:50be willing to put that work in. And y'all, I need to say this as
- 8:54well. Whether or not they decide to go
- 8:57get help is less about you. What do you think it is?
- 9:01I know people go like, well, maybe I'm not worth enough for
- 9:03them to go get help. Stop attaching your worth to
- 9:05what somebody else is going to do for themselves.
- 9:08Y'all have got to stop doing it. Stop attaching your worth or
- 9:11your value to something that somebody is going to do for the,
- 9:16like some something that somebody has to do for
- 9:18themselves. It's not about you.
- 9:20They're going to go to therapy for you and it probably isn't
- 9:22going to work. It probably isn't going to work.
- 9:26They need to go work on themselves for themselves.
- 9:29Because if otherwise y'all it won't.
- 9:31You won't have any kind of semblance of normalcy.
- 9:34You won't have any kind of semblance of emotional and
- 9:37physical healthiness. Safety within your relationship
- 9:41dynamic. Why would you?
- 9:42You know, if they've been toxic for years, they're probably
- 9:45going to be toxic for more years to come.
- 9:47And this is not me trying to be debilitated or trying to kill
- 9:50Y'all's vibe or anything like that.
- 9:51That's not my goal here. Y'all know that's not my goal.
- 9:54My goal is to. If I'm giving you the
- 9:56information provided, I'm providing you the information
- 9:59necessary for you to make a conscientious decision whether
- 10:01you where you want to stay or or go where you want to go.
- 10:04Go read Doctor Romedy's book Should I stay or should I go go
- 10:07check her book out. You know, because they can help
- 10:10you out and make the decision as well.
- 10:12Because if you are looking at your friends and family's
- 10:15relationships and they have healthy, happy relationships
- 10:18with their compassionate to each other, and you can feel a little
- 10:21jealousy and envy coming from that, you're probably going to
- 10:24like like that that's going to fester in your relationship
- 10:27because you probably won't ever have it looking like that.
- 10:31I'm not going to say things will never get better unless they're
- 10:34if they're if they're if they're committed to working on
- 10:36themselves, I'm going to say that it probably won't look like
- 10:39your friends and family's relationship.
- 10:41It probably if you if you had a healthy mom and dad marriage,
- 10:45your relationship probably won't look like that.
- 10:48Because if that person is not going to work on themselves and
- 10:50acknowledge that they have problems and issues that they
- 10:52actually need to work on, it's not going to be that.
- 10:55It's not going to be beneficial to you.
- 10:56It's not going to look like that for you.
- 10:58This is again, y'all. This is not me trying to hurt
- 11:00y'all's feelings. This is me just trying to raise
- 11:02awareness and let you know. Just, hey, look, this is the
- 11:04information that I have. This is the information I've
- 11:06cultivated over the last 6 1/2 years of therapy, the last
- 11:12three, almost 3 1/2 years. What I thought you thought the
- 11:16last 3 1/2 years of talking about this online and helping
- 11:19damn near millions of people understand, heal and grow.
- 11:22Like millions of people that you only have 300 and something
- 11:25thousand on YouTube. I have millions of people who
- 11:27follow me all on the on the platforms.
- 11:29Y'all YouTube is like mine. What second?
- 11:31Yeah, YouTube. My second logger is my phone.
- 11:33I got almost 2 billion on Tiktok.
- 11:35But here's the healthiness. Y'all here's the growth for you,
- 11:40Growth for you. Just be safe, take care of
- 11:42yourself and make sure to subscribe to the channel
- 11:45between. This is out peace.
- 11:48Thank you so much for making it to the end of my video.
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