Episode 33 - Straight to Jael ft. Jael Holzman

Normal Men · Nov 19, 2025 · 1h 54m

Green energy and touring finances with Jael Holzman of Heatmap and Ekko Astral (@jael.bsky.social), the Epstein Files, and Peak Trump.

listen to Horse Glue by Ekko Astral here: https://ekkoastral.bandcamp.com/album/horseglue

and submit questions for mailbag here: https://golikehellmachine.com/2025/11/16/thanksgiving-mailbag/

Chapters:

0:00 Intro & Casual Food Chat

5:20 Energy Transition & Policy

16:00 Fossil Fuel Influence & Geothermal

30:00 Political Risk & Media Critique

42:30 Echo Astral & Music Life

58:30 Jeffrey Epstein Email Dump

1:26:00 Epstein's Political Impact

1:37:30 Has Trump's…