Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Tom Cox, Vice President of Operations & Tenille Oderwald, Director of Operations at OSF HealthCare Cancer Institute
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- 0:00Welcome everyone to the Becker's Healthcare podcast series.
- 0:02I'm Ryan Mohammed, writer and moderator with Becker's
- 0:05Healthcare.
- 0:06I am thrilled to have with me today
- 0:07two special guests, Tom, vice president of of
- 0:10operations at OSF Healthcare Cancer Institute, and Teneal,
- 0:14director of operations at OSF Healthcare Care Cancer
- 0:16Institute. Tom Teneal, welcome to the podcast. We're
- 0:18very excited to have you join us today.
- 0:20To get us started, would you mind please
- 0:21introducing yourselves and telling us a bit about
- 0:23your background?
- 0:24Tom, do you mind starting with you?
- 0:27Sure. My name is Tom Cox. I'm the
- 0:29vice president of operations of the Cancer Institute.
- 0:32Institute. I started my career in radiology,
- 0:35actually, but over the years probably the last
- 0:38fifteen years, I've been involved in oncology
- 0:40and the development of the Cancer Institute, and
- 0:43I really kind of oversee the strategic direction
- 0:46of the Cancer Institute.
- 0:49Wonderful. Thank you so much for that. And
- 0:51then, Tenille?
- 0:52Hi, everyone. My name is Tenille Oderwald. I'm
- 0:55the director of operations here at the Cancer
- 0:57Institute. I've been with Saint Francis for just
- 0:59about twenty eight years. All in always working
- 1:02in oncology care,
- 1:04from a floor nurse to navigation
- 1:06and now into a leadership role,
- 1:08as the director of operations.
- 1:11Wonderful. Thank you both for giving us that
- 1:13background. So jumping into the conversation today, what
- 1:17innovative ways is OSF HealthCare
- 1:19providing world class cancer care to patients?
- 1:23Tom, Teneal,
- 1:24either one of you, please jump in.
- 1:27Sure. From an innovation perspective,
- 1:30there's quite a few things that we brought
- 1:31to the community that that we have not
- 1:33had before.
- 1:35I'll start by talking about our brachytherapy
- 1:38suite. Brachytherapy is a type of therapy,
- 1:41where we're able to introduce
- 1:43needle applicators and put high dose radiation
- 1:46into the body, into the tumor area, and
- 1:48treat that. We have a brachytherapy
- 1:50suite that's got an integrated CT on rails,
- 1:53and we're able to really create a very
- 1:56efficient process and a good patient,
- 1:59experience. We also have artificial intelligence that reads
- 2:02all of our radiology reports and pulls out
- 2:06follow ups that need to be done and
- 2:08pulls out suspicious lesions so that we can
- 2:11make sure that,
- 2:13those lesions are addressed.
- 2:15We have a a a coordinator who who
- 2:17follows that. And and if there is a
- 2:20suspicious lesion, we'll get it into our
- 2:23rapid,
- 2:24clinic to be assessed and diagnosed right away.
- 2:27We've also brought proton therapy into the community,
- 2:31which is bringing patients from further away and
- 2:33allows us to treat some patients that we
- 2:36may have had to not to turn away
- 2:38and not be able to use radiation therapy
- 2:40on.
- 2:43Got it. Got it. Thank you so much
- 2:44for, answering that. Taneal, did you have anything,
- 2:48to add there?
- 2:49Sure. So, you know, really, the whole building
- 2:51is filled with innovative ways, that we are
- 2:53offering that world class cancer care to patients.
- 2:57When we
- 2:58sat down to really look at the workflows
- 3:00and designs of the bath of of the
- 3:02building
- 3:03and pathways of the patients, it really sets
- 3:05us apart from others, I believe.
- 3:08You know, we really have focused on that
- 3:09patient experience
- 3:10and that ease for patients.
- 3:13So for instance, when a patient has a
- 3:15diagnosis, there's many times they need a lot
- 3:17of additional imaging that's being completed.
- 3:20May they may need a PET scan. They
- 3:21may need an MRI.
- 3:22And
- 3:23before, these were always done on different days.
- 3:26So,
- 3:27what we decide
- 3:28to do is really develop a workflow for
- 3:31patients that when they come in, they can
- 3:33get all of their imaging done in one
- 3:35day.
- 3:36It's called our stack testing.
- 3:38So, this has allowed patients
- 3:41to have that timeliness to treatment,
- 3:44getting that,
- 3:46staging workup that's needed so quickly,
- 3:49completed,
- 3:50really decreasing
- 3:51that, those sleepless nights,
- 3:54that patients often endure,
- 3:56waiting for those results and a treatment plan
- 3:58to form. So really excited that we're able
- 4:01to offer that for most of our cancer
- 4:03types.
- 4:04Also, you know, multidisciplinary
- 4:06approach is a really high priority for us
- 4:08here at the Cancer Institute.
- 4:10So,
- 4:11making sure that we have when patients come
- 4:13here, it's that one stop shop where they
- 4:15can meet with the radiation oncologist, their surgeon,
- 4:19medical oncologist, their nurse navigator,
- 4:22all in one day,
- 4:23to get that information that they need to
- 4:26really start that treatment plan and and a
- 4:28follow-up,
- 4:29course of action.
- 4:31Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Thank you so much for
- 4:33giving us that information. Sounds, obviously,
- 4:36as a great improvement.
- 4:38And recently, you've announced some, some new physician
- 4:41hires that are offering new expertise at the
- 4:43Cancer Institute. Can you tell us a little
- 4:45bit more about that?
- 4:48Absolutely.
- 4:49We are very proud of the physicians that
- 4:52we have, the depth of physicians,
- 4:55their expertise.
- 4:56In particular,
- 4:58we recently hired a surgical oncologist who's brought
- 5:01HIPEC technology to our community,
- 5:04and that's a surgical procedure that's used to
- 5:07treat advanced abdominal cancers that have spread to
- 5:10the lining of the abdomen. So the the
- 5:12surgeon will go in and remove those tumors,
- 5:15and that is followed by sixty to ninety
- 5:18minutes of,
- 5:20heated chemotherapy
- 5:21that circulates through the abdominal cavity to make
- 5:24sure that we kill off any of those
- 5:26cancer cells that the the surgeon may not
- 5:29have seen when they were moving the tumors.
- 5:31So that's one technology that we've brought here.
- 5:34From a depth of talent perspective, we have
- 5:37two very good head and neck cancer surgeons,
- 5:40three breast surgeons,
- 5:42or gynecological
- 5:43oncologist,
- 5:45very talented physicians. Those are those are hard
- 5:47to find. We're blessed to have those in
- 5:50the community.
- 5:51We have two hepatopancreatobiliary
- 5:53surgeons.
- 5:55We do
- 5:57amount the amount of pancreatic
- 5:59cancer surgeries that we do compares to anyone
- 6:02in the state and really anyone in the
- 6:03nation. We do a lot of those surgeries.
- 6:06We have two thoracic surgeons that,
- 6:10are are actually in the ninety ninth percentile
- 6:13in terms of outcome
- 6:14with the Thoracic Surgery,
- 6:17Association.
- 6:18So very talented,
- 6:21surgeons.
- 6:22We also have a radiation oncologist that has
- 6:25proton therapy that has come to our community,
- 6:29proton therapy experience.
- 6:31And that's really helped us, build out our
- 6:33proton therapy,
- 6:35program even more.
- 6:37So, again, we are proud of that that
- 6:40depth, and we're building more depth of providers,
- 6:43every day.
- 6:46Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And, Teneal,
- 6:49would you like to add anything there? And
- 6:50if not,
- 6:52looking towards the future, what's coming
- 6:54soon at the OSF Cancer Institute?
- 6:58Yeah. So, we are,
- 7:01having a lot of big focus on prevention
- 7:03and early detection,
- 7:05with cancer. We don't wanna just be there
- 7:07at a diagnosis. We wanna make sure that
- 7:09we're,
- 7:10maybe helping prevent a cancer from occurring or
- 7:13finding it as early as possible. So we're
- 7:15putting a lot of measures
- 7:16and initiatives towards early detection and education
- 7:20surrounding what a patient's risk risk is.
- 7:23We have a high risk and genetic clinic
- 7:26that,
- 7:27screens patients and assesses what their risks are.
- 7:31And for those that are at a higher
- 7:33risk, putting them on a plan to,
- 7:35for extra screening
- 7:38and teaching them more about nutrition and exercise
- 7:40and how that can really impact your cancer
- 7:42risk.
- 7:44Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. Thank you so much for
- 7:45giving us that information.
- 7:47Tom,
- 7:48if I could ask, how has the OSF
- 7:51Cancer Institute become a destination center for cancer
- 7:54care, do you think?
- 7:56So
- 7:58I just wanna talk a little bit about
- 7:59the type of destination center that we really
- 8:02want to be,
- 8:03that we that I feel we are and
- 8:05that we're gonna continue to grow in.
- 8:08Many destination
- 8:09center you know, if you're a destination center
- 8:11that somebody has to get on a plane
- 8:13and come see you, what you're essentially doing
- 8:16is you're gonna treat disease.
- 8:20They come there, you have great expertise, you
- 8:22treat the disease, they go back home. You're
- 8:25not really involved with survivorship,
- 8:27you're not really involved with cancer control in
- 8:29general.
- 8:31For us, what we are doing here in
- 8:33Peoria and throughout the midsection of the state
- 8:35is we're really trying to to partner
- 8:38with the communities around us, not just OSF
- 8:42communities, but all communities in cancer control.
- 8:45How do we work together to help people
- 8:48understand what what what may cause cancer?
- 8:51What are what is your genetic risk of
- 8:53cancer? How do we mitigate that risk?
- 8:57Where are you with early detection? Are you
- 8:59getting your screenings?
- 9:00We wanna raise awareness with screening.
- 9:03If you do have a suspicion, we wanna
- 9:05make it easy to get in and get
- 9:07diagnosed and staged,
- 9:09and we wanna work with the communities around
- 9:11us to make sure that, we share our
- 9:14expertise,
- 9:15but also that as much treatment
- 9:17can be done locally as possible. Sick people
- 9:19don't necessarily wanna get in a car. So
- 9:22if they're able to get treatment,
- 9:24locally, we wanna work with our OSF communities
- 9:27and non OSF communities to build up what
- 9:30they're able to do
- 9:31in less complex cancer care. And then the
- 9:34tools we have at the Cancer Institute are
- 9:36available
- 9:37if if, they do not have that particular
- 9:40tool in the community. So those complex cases
- 9:43can come here and see our head and
- 9:45neck,
- 9:46surgeons. Our gynec,
- 9:48can have HIPEC surgery,
- 9:50can have proton therapy, can utilize that brachytherapy
- 9:53suite. So we wanna walk the path
- 9:56before you even have cancer and to help
- 9:59you prevent it, to help you find it
- 10:00early, to help you get treatment, and then
- 10:02on into survivorship.
- 10:04That's really what we're gonna hang our hat
- 10:06on as a destination center, and I think
- 10:08that's a little different
- 10:10than, again, those sites where you might say,
- 10:12I need to get on a plane and
- 10:14go somewhere,
- 10:15to get treatment. We we wanna be walking
- 10:18the path with the communities around us,
- 10:21from from prevention through survivorship.
- 10:25Just to piggyback onto that, you know, we
- 10:27we really have that expertise,
- 10:29and the skills from our treating providers from
- 10:32surgery to radiation oncology.
- 10:34They are just top notch.
- 10:37We are really bringing a new side of
- 10:38hope. And with the new clinical trials,
- 10:42we have the latest and greatest in the
- 10:43imaging devices, our brachysuite and proton therapy that
- 10:47Tom talked about are the best of their
- 10:49kind.
- 10:50We don't want patients to ever feel like
- 10:52they have to leave to get innovative new
- 10:55treatments.
- 10:56We want them close to home. We want
- 10:58them by their families. We want them with
- 11:00their friends and that support that they still
- 11:02need.
- 11:03We have just an amazing supportive staff from
- 11:07our nurse navigators, our dietitians,
- 11:09our counselors, our social workers,
- 11:12our skilled advanced,
- 11:13practice providers and our clinics. I mean, it's
- 11:16just amazing what we're here what we have
- 11:18here and offering to our community.
- 11:22Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And I guess going a
- 11:24little bit further into that, in terms of
- 11:27community health, how does OSF Cancer Institute play
- 11:30a role into that?
- 11:32You know, I think that, we really are
- 11:36known for experts in the community,
- 11:39on cancer care.
- 11:40We do a lot in the community with
- 11:43our screening days, having patients come in and
- 11:45get all of their screenings done in one
- 11:47day, come get your mammogram, a low dose
- 11:49CT,
- 11:51have a skin cancer check,
- 11:53and have education.
- 11:55Know what your risk is.
- 11:57We have such education,
- 12:00with our our staff. You know, they're frequent
- 12:03visitors to our local TV stations just talking
- 12:05about screening and the importance of nutrition and
- 12:08exercise.
- 12:09But we have a teaching kitchen here at
- 12:11the Cancer Institute,
- 12:13and this is ran by our dietitians.
- 12:15They can sit down with the patient and
- 12:17give them all the clinical information that they
- 12:19need, But that teaching kitchen really is where
- 12:22it comes alive. It's a hands on approach
- 12:24of
- 12:25having them learn how to,
- 12:27make healthy recipes,
- 12:29for those that have had a diagnosis of
- 12:31cancer.
- 12:33What is the important things for them to
- 12:34eat and,
- 12:36to maintain their health during their treatments and
- 12:38post treatment as well too?
- 12:41One thing that I wanted to add to
- 12:42that as well is is just the culture
- 12:45in the Cancer Institute, both in the building
- 12:48and the programs that kinda emanate from this
- 12:50building.
- 12:52You can feel it when you walk into
- 12:54that building that everybody there,
- 12:56is dedicated to being advocates for cancer patients.
- 13:00Anyone who works in the building has gone
- 13:02through training about what are the unique needs
- 13:04of cancer patients,
- 13:06what of the what services we've arrayed to
- 13:08help them, and Teneal's gone over quite a
- 13:10few of those. And we've asked them to
- 13:12feel empowered to ask.
- 13:15Is there anything you need? Is there anything
- 13:17we can do to help you? And if
- 13:18we see a need,
- 13:20we try to find that that support service
- 13:23that will fill that need. If somebody is
- 13:26having trouble with transportation, if they're having trouble
- 13:29with food insecurity, whatever it may be, we
- 13:32have the resources to help, and everybody feels
- 13:34very much empowered,
- 13:36to seek out that help and to align
- 13:38that support with the need.
- 13:42Yeah. Yeah. For sure. That that sounds amazing,
- 13:45and I just love all the help that
- 13:47that is offered.
- 13:48And, I guess, adding on to that, how
- 13:50do the teams at the Cancer Institute help
- 13:53patients, not just during the cancer treatment, like
- 13:55you all explained wonderfully, but even after, would
- 13:55you
- 13:57explained wonderfully, but even after, would you think?
- 14:01So I'll let Teneal,
- 14:02talk about our our we have a robust
- 14:04survivorship program. I just wanna say very quickly
- 14:07once again,
- 14:09that we feel like we are gonna walk
- 14:11next to our community members through that whole
- 14:13cancer continuum.
- 14:15Not just treating and after treating,
- 14:18but helping you prevent cancer, helping you find
- 14:21it early, helping you understand your genetic risk.
- 14:24And then, yes, have all of those robust
- 14:26treatments,
- 14:27and then, Danilo will talk about, just a
- 14:31tremendous survivorship program that that she has built.
- 14:35So our support does not end after a
- 14:37cancer diagnosis.
- 14:39Patients are surviving and they're thriving after cancer,
- 14:43but it can really play a toll on
- 14:45a patient's body.
- 14:46We have put together a team of experts
- 14:49that really focus on life after cancer.
- 14:52Our start program, which is surviving, thriving, and
- 14:55recovering together,
- 14:57has nurse navigators,
- 14:58who are especially trained in life after cancer.
- 15:01We have counselors, we have dietitians,
- 15:04exercise specialists to really help patients recover after
- 15:07treatment.
- 15:08They're checking in with patients and assessing for
- 15:11physical, emotional, and financial needs,
- 15:13post treatment, and then getting them into those
- 15:15resources that we talked about earlier.
- 15:18After that last treatment occurs, a light switch
- 15:21doesn't
- 15:21go off and light doesn't go back to
- 15:23normal. So recovering from cancer can be really
- 15:26hard and difficult, and, we really wanna wrap
- 15:29our arms around these patients and be with
- 15:31them at every step of the way.
- 15:33Yes. Yes. Absolutely. Thank you so much for
- 15:35giving us those final thoughts. It's definitely been
- 15:38a very informative discussion. So I wanna thank
- 15:40both of you for coming on Becker's Healthcare,
- 15:42and speaking with me today. And I look
- 15:44forward to connecting with you both again soon.
- 15:47Thanks for having us. Thank you very much.