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Hoyt BETTER than Mathews!? · The Bow Disciples Podcast

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  Yes, yes, That's going to be a good audio.
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  So we're going to jump right into it.
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  Jack here just switched from Matthews to Hoyt.
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  That's a yeah, that could cause a fight in a lot of circles.
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  Which, why? Why did you switch?
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  Well, you know, I, I, I ran a Matthews.
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  I started off with the gosh, what was it?
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  The Vertex. And I really like that though,
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  but I almost felt like they were too forgiving.
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  Like the back wall it would, it would always creep a little bit
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  and I didn't like that. I tried shooting a Hoy and I
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  first time I ever drew back, it was just like right there and it
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  just, it just held right there. It was really, really hard.
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  And yeah, I just, I liked it. I sold my elbow and then bought
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  the Hoyt, and I'm never looking back.
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  So no more Matthews? No more Matthews guy.
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  Well, I I don't have anything against the Matthews.
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  They're great bows. But I feel like it's all just
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  personal preference and kind of just shoot, try whatever you
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  feel like. I mean, try whatever you want
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  and then. You'll find something that works
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  eventually and then stick with it.
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  Facts I am a Valley guy though what he's talking about I agree
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  I shot Matthews quite a few times and they're elite, really
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  nice bows. But I agree.
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  I mean if you relax at all they're they're they're wanting
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  to come forward and like the bow text the Hoyt say don't do that,
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  which I prefer. A lot of guys do like that Creek
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  feel personally not not my favorite, right?
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  But I mean I think about it. If you're hunting, it's like
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  real cold out or something. And what if you're in a tree and
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  you're holding a draw for a full minute or something waiting for
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  that buck to step around. And somewhere in there he cams
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  on a four, which I had that once.
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  I had a bull coming in in 2018. The only bullet mounted I drew
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  back. He stopped buying a tree.
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  I held it, held it, held it, and I experienced just ripped my arm
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  off. Thankfully right then he took a
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  step or something so he didn't hear it and I still ended up
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  getting them. But that right there is an
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  example, I think, right of why you might not want that creep.
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  Cam Haynes had nothing to do with it.
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  No. I'm just curious because the
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  shorts. Is that what you're asking
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  about? You know Cam, a legend with the
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  Shore and his whole look. I always watch him and I'm like,
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  this guy has that cool factor. He's just way cooler than he can
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  do anything, get in his truck. Just the average thing.
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  But if he does it way cooler. Than.
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  I wouldn't be as cool. Yeah, you bump your knee or
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  something. I don't know why people have
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  that cool factor, but I don't. I have it like very minimal you.
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  Know very mid. Yeah.
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  Yeah, Brianna looking good. She got her Zen beanies and
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  rewards. Yeah, I just figured, you know,
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  there's a bunch of hats going on.
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  So I was like, guess I better just, you know, put a hat.
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  On but it is. October.
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  I know, I mean, it might be. 85 Outside of an hour, but for a
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  girl, it's about time to go to a pumpkin patch and get some
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  pictures for Instagram. Got another week?
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  You know. One more week?
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  Yeah, for all the dogs, you know?
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  So what up? What up?
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  First time on the pod, How you feeling?
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  It's. Good.
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  It's cool to see you know the next edition to to Bo Disciples.
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  Been here? More or less.
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  Well, not from the beginning. That'd be you and your dad.
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  But you know me and Nick, technically.
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  That's true from the OG. That's true way back
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  technically, but yeah. More or less from the That was
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  probably the third dude ever in the videos other than me, Nick,
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  Ted, and you were probably right there.
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  Third place. Pretty cool.
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  Before that? Was that before or after the
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  scooter edits? After.
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  Yeah. If you guys want to see some
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  banger content, go watch the scooter videos.
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  And we are going to. There's going to be a sequel.
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  He's asked for Scooter for Christmas too.
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  I want to yes. No, it needs to come back.
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  It does. It does.
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  It had a lot of, a lot of viewership back then.
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  Maybe now. Yeah, 3rd, 300 views.
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  We cranked them. So we got the BD merch, by the
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  way. New merch.
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  This here is the light olive. Jack's got the black.
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  Fire. Gotta say some of the most
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  comfortable merch I've ever worn in my entire life.
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  Shout out to next level shirts that make good stuff.
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  You know, good Price .2999 on the.
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  Sites on the way. Free shipping patch hats.
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  Some hats. Finally, finally, finally got my
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  way. Is that camera?
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  That camera went off. We'll keep it rolling.
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  Go and fix that. Did you already spill on
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  yourself? Yeah, that was first verse.
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  Yeah, Jack was talking on the very first question I spilled.
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  So it's on brand for. Me.
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  Now we just have to wait for you to throw the drink over.
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  No, Yeah, it's going to be. He's going to go to put his leg
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  on the table. It'll be over.
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  It's going to get kicked or yeah, without.
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  It he's going to kick the table, nothing will happen.
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  Here's the question. How long have you been spilling
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  drinks? Because as long as I've known
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  you so I was a kid. Do you remember?
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  Like I was a kid. You spilling stuff.
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  Like, I can distinctly remember spilling the milkshake at Red
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  Robin in the mall. Yeah, the day of Ronald's
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  funeral. Oh, really?
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  Yeah, I just. It's in my head.
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  You know, I remember that I was a kid.
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  You know that's right. You still spill?
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  Yeah, regularly. Has that always been a thing for
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  you? Like, I think, I think it's more
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  of a recent thing, maybe the last half decade or so.
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  I just started tipping stuff. Here's why I think it is.
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  I like efficiency and doing things quick, right?
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  So I think sometimes I go to I'm in a rush doing something too
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  fast, trying to be slick and then yard sale the rock stars.
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  Some people call that careless. It could be.
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  You call it what you. Want.
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  Yeah. Clumsy.
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  That's fine. That's.
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  Fine told me no. But then again, he almost put a.
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  Pair of scissors through his toe.
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  Yeah, trying to be efficient. I was cooking the other day in
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  the. Kitchen.
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  Yeah, I was cooking and scissors cap can delivered over the edge,
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  straight to the tip of the toe. I thought I lost that toe.
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  I thought I was going to have to go in there and get a digit
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  sewed back on, you know? Then it quickly became my fault
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  that the scissors landed on. Of course, she the only one
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  here. I got to blame him Something
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  that's. You or Alby?
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  Yeah, might as well be me. How's the diet going?
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  Diet's good so. What is?
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  Tell us what it is exactly so Carnivore.
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  Got it? Of course Joe Rogan.
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  Baby got it from Joe Rogan. It's essentially you eat only.
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  Oprah for men, Oprah for men. That's a great way to put it.
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  He'd been cancelled more times than me, which is hard to do,
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  you know? But yeah, now it's good.
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  You eat only animal products. So for us, a lot of wild game.
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  Beef, chicken mixed in here and there.
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  And then eggs. No oil.
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  So cooking with butter and yeah, it's been good.
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  Also, you can nibble on like pork rinds if you want, which,
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  yeah, it's crazy. You look at the ingredient list,
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  it literally just says like pork rinds and salt.
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  That's all. I said so.
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  You know. What?
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  Well, my first attempt to try them, he had like, covered them
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  in some sort of seasoning. I over salted them a little.
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  You didn't just like. Take them out of the bag.
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  The bag. They were raw on that one, so
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  just no. Those aren't as good.
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  You get like spicy ones or and stuff like that.
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  Yeah, good. So yeah, as far as we're about a
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  week and 1/2 in been feeling really, really good energy
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  phenomenal until I find like I wake up at 6, go to the gym,
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  feel great until I eat my first meal, which is like 11 or 12.
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  Probably I'll have whatever could be like 2 deer steaks or
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  two elk steaks or ground and eggs.
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  After that, I'll get a little tired for just like a little
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  bit, maybe an hour. And then it kind of comes back
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  up and is super consistent from there, so.
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  We said it was interesting, so we talked about this the other
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  day and. He has that effect, but I'm
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  like, same thing. I don't get up when he gets up
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  because I'm not a morning person.
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  So I'm actually angry because it is like, I'm waking up like wide
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  awake, But I like 4:00 AM, not 6:00 AM and so but whatever.
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  Then I'll sleep in, get up, get ready for work.
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  And if I don't eat or take something with me for work, I
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  find that I'm super groggy until I do eat something like.
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  So I was feeling super tired when I got home.
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  Then I ate that chicken. I feel good, no?
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  I'm fine, yeah, I find it the opposite but.
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  Are you guys eating more often? Because I always feel like when
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  I when I would eat, like, you know, some ground meat and
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  veggies and eggs, I need a big plate and I'd be, you know, full
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  for about an hour. But because it was so clean, I
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  think it just, you know, moved quickly, didn't have that heavy
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  food sitting, and so I'd be hungry like.
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  Not long after are. You eating more?
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  Frequently. Or is it still just, yeah, what
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  meals? More, more meals.
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  But we found like a small plate and you feel not full like
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  overly full. You just know when you're full
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  and then it it seems to last like I guess you would say a
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  long time, but really you're just eating like four or five
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  small meals a day more so for him because I'm, you know, I
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  leave for work and whatnot, but like never that like.
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  In a state of ketosis, like starvation, like stomach pains
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  feeling. Yeah, like you're just satiated
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  and then you eat because you know, you've only, you know,
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  maybe had 100 calories. Calories down?
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  Yeah, yeah, it's kind of crazy. Like I feel like I'm eating a
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  ton, like you know, because like you said, it's a half pound of
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  ground and like 3 eggs and then two full deer steaks and some
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  pork rinds. Like, it sounds like a lot, but
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  I just eat until I'm full and then that'll last a lot of
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  times, like 6 hours or something and then I'll eat again a
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  similar meal. All your meals are somewhat
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  similar, but I find that it is lasting.
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  And another thing is like just feeling better.
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  And for me, y'all know everyone in here, except maybe Jack knows
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  I'm a gassy boy most of the time, right?
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  On this, I'm not gassy at all. It's crazy.
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  Wonderful. Yeah.
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  I mean. Well, I think that's just all
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  the processed. Your body just was never meant
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  to see. Oils.
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  Now you're having to you know, it takes more energy to digest.
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  That's why you, you know, you eat a big meal and you just,
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  like, go to the couch. You know, you don't.
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  You're less productive, even if at work, for example, you know
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  your afternoon stent is just, you know, on the decline.
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  But when you're eating clean, yeah, your body process it.
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  There's less waste and then less energy to use it, and then
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  better energy from it. I think.
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  I think the question that's on everybody's mind right now is
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  how are the constitutionals did not, not bad.
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  So I'm I'm like, I don't feel like my bowel movements have
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  been any different really. Are they sometimes harder?
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  Soft about the same. Sometimes they'll be super
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  crazy, but that's like only a few times.
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  I don't know like what time. Does it cheat your owns?
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  Maybe I'm going to. Say maybe it's when you eat the
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  pork rinds. Could be, but I I will say as
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  far as like a a a weight loss thing.
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  So I went into it, but I did go into it eating a lot because I
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  was like, if I'm going to do the challenge, let me like, really
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  bulk up and try to, like, inflate the numbers.
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  So I got up to like 194, which is like probably the heaviest
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  I've ever been. And I weighed in a week later
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  was 186. And it's crazy because just
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  watching myself in videos or pictures or hearing what people
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  saying, a lot of people have been like, dude, you look so
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  lean or this or that. And I can see it like I just
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  look like less inflamed and like tighter.
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  That's a lot of it too. You you, you might not be
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  necessarily like obese or overweight.
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  But you're inflamed. Yeah, I think the first week was
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  like, I've only, so I started the same thing.
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  We weighed ourselves the end of the first night.
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  So the number was a little skewed because it was the end of
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  the night, but whatever, maybe a pound and a couple pounds for
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  him. And I was 129.9.
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  I'm down to 124.3 as of this is day 9.
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  You just look at your wrist. Together, yeah.
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  And so mine's been a little slower than his, but I think, I
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  think that's to be expected when he gets up and goes to gym every
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  single morning and I'm heavier. Too.
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  And you're heavier, so naturally you'll shed it a little faster.
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  Lighter, but I think that that first big chunk.
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  Is mostly water weight and inflammation because you're
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  processing out all of that nasty stuff that's it literally just
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  holds on in you. Like I have noticed a
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  significant difference in like I have a huge problem with
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  bloating like certain types of foods and things like that that
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  I just don't ever go get tested for.
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  But I have noticed a huge difference in like 1.
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  This, you know, side profile and then just naturally like the
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  pressure feeling not being there anymore.
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  So I find it great. Like could I only eat meat for
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  forever? No.
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  But could you do like once a month, go out and like we plan
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  like I want to go get spaghetti on day 31 or whatever, but could
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  you do that once a month and like you know, maybe have a
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  dessert once a week? Sure.
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  But like, I don't have a desire for pastas or.
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  Cravings. Craving.
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  The only thing at craving sweets all the time.
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  Because I'm That's just you're a fan.
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  I'm a fan, I. Think it's anything in like in
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  moderation like we used to do the five days you know of no or
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  little to no carbs. And then the weekend, you know,
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  you just do whatever and then that's just how it is.
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  And overall, I mean, I I suggest people try it because number
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  one, I think the most important thing, I think it's really
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  sustainable. Like I think you can do it for a
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  long period of time And like she said, when when it's over with
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  the month long strict, I you know, the only thing I really
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  miss is like you guys know I love popcorn and like I do miss
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  popcorn. So I'll probably mix that in
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  like 2 nights a week or something, but other than that,
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  like I'm not sitting there craving anything.
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  So I think I'll do the same thing about 90% and then mix in
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  like, oh. I mean, it's like, it's probably
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  the easiest way to to restructure like the discipline
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  of a diet is to go, you know, over the top.
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  Having a partner or partners and accountability obviously is, is
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  key. And then once you kind of go to
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  nothing, now you can reintroduce one or two nights or one or two
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  things here versus like just trying to trim a little bit.
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  You're always going to want to just fall back to, you know,
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  eating what you're. That habit in your brain is
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  still there. It's not, I wouldn't call it an
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  addiction, but it's a habit. And so like you kind of set off
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  little. For those things called your
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  brain, like neuro or. Sectors, yeah, yeah.
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  You just don't know how bad you're feeling.
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  True until you eat. True.
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  Yeah, that's what I said earlier.
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  Like today. Instead, I had a McDonald's
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  sausage Patty with bacon and extremely processed eggs for
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  breakfast. Completely different than had I
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  made like the eggs that we had at the house and bacon here with
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  natural butter like you. I just by the time I made it 5
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  minutes from the McDonald's to work and got out of the car,
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  like I could already feel that upset feeling in my stomach.
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  Yeah. So it's like when you do it
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  extreme and we made it 8 days and I had that you just like.
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  You know. It.
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  Turns you off. From doing it and it's easier to
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  to keep going with that, you know.
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  Obviously if you go out to dinner you would, you know, half
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  rite some short of it. Cheat meal or something you know
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  to enjoy it because this might taste better.
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  Pay for it? Yeah.
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  You know, Yeah. But obviously, you know, this
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  should be construed as diet advice.
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  Oh yeah. There's no experts, no diet
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  advice, but yeah. Your experience is our
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  experiences with dieting is absolutely a personal experience
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  and like I said, I I do enjoy it and especially being a hunter, I
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  think it's like makes even more sense to do something like this.
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  You know when you it's primal Yeah, it's shout out to Liver
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  King when you got you know doves or because Jack, you bird hunt,
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  right. Yeah, a little bit.
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  Tell me about that a little bit. Because I've never, I've been a
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  hunter my whole life, but I've never gone down the rabbit hole
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  of bird hunting other than like, turkeys and even those out with
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  a bow. So as far as like shooting doves
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  and quail with the shotgun, like tell me about that.
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  So I I don't do a lot of dove and quail hunting.
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  I feel like you you pretty much most people use dogs for that.
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  That kind of stuff to kind of flush him up.
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  My grandpa was a really really big bird hunter.
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  He's from Kansas. A lot of pheasant, a lot of
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  quail, some dove here and there and I actually I inherited I was
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  lucky enough to inherit a couple of his shotguns some nice 20
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  gauge had an over under Winchester pigeon grade.
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  My favorite gun I have. But I do a lot of grouse hunting
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  up in up in Montana and that's just that's so fun man.
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  You just walk. Walk through the woods, wait for
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  one to just. Pop out and boom.
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  I mean, they're good are. You trying to do that?
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  I tried that with a bow, but it's not Vince.
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  It's hard with, yeah, it's hard with.
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  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but they taste good.
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  Throw them up on the trigger? Yeah, real good.
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  Yeah, we did that with the grouse and it was like you just,
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  he did, I mean, yeah. I've got, I've got a pounds of
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  meter. You get off of that, probably
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  almost a pound on a. Big grouse?
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  Yeah, probably almost found their big bird.
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  Like about the size of a chicken and.
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  I want about a pound out of that.
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  Probably a pound, yeah. So the reason I want to talk
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  about birds a little bit was just because, you know, going
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  back to the carnivore, you know, it's it, it's a different style
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  of meat you can eat other than just red meat, you know, having
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  poultry. So I think that's pretty cool.
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  Mean high protein? For sure, and even some small
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  game like we're going to do a video soon.
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  Where Brianna and maybe Matt or whoever will come out, we'll do
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  a rabbit hunt with the bow and do like a catch, like a hunt and
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  cook type thing of a rabbit, I think.
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  I think that would be cool. Oh yeah, because I think that,
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  like in hunting, at least in the YouTube space, everything you
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  see is big game. Sure you don't see it?
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  As small whatever is going to make the best video or yeah,
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  whatever, right? So I think it's cool because
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  that's hunting too. And for me, that's my first
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  animal with a bow was a rabbit in 98, you know?
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  And for you too. And Speaking of that too, we got
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  four of us in here, all similar to age.
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  Jack's a younger at 18, but I got into honey when I was, you
• 18:29
  know, a little tiny kid. Brianna, you got into it when
• 18:32
  you were 22 or so. 23 Matt. 2425 probably.
• 18:38
  Yeah, I think it was like in 2017.
• 18:41
  So I don't know what that would have been 24, 24 and Jack you
• 18:46
  that. Was 12/12 killed my first Turkey
• 18:49
  and then? With.
• 18:52
  Shotgun. OK, because I never did any.
• 18:54
  Why did I didn't know hunting growing up And then it was only
• 18:58
  around I mean we we you know shot BB guns but nothing not for
• 19:02
  hunting And it was around a bow and hunting through you and Ted
• 19:07
  and I would shoot. I remember I would shoot your
• 19:08
  bow and you know, at the ranch a couple times, but you know, it
• 19:11
  was just for fun And then finally, you know, got in a
• 19:16
  position, got through some my work and then got.
• 19:19
  That's enough money to go buy a bow, and I had that for a long
• 19:23
  time. That ranked seven, yeah.
• 19:26
  But and then, you know, probably about a year after that you
• 19:30
  think maybe went one of my first time, Yeah, I think in 2018 or
• 19:33
  something, yeah. Javelina and dear.
• 19:36
  Also, just so you know, you got, you know how many years of this
• 19:40
  one guiding spot in stocks and one that you know what he told
• 19:44
  me this year, I'm on my own. On my own, yeah, I got.
• 19:48
  One year of training. One year of training.
• 19:51
  He's like, fly the coop, baby. Yeah, yeah.
• 19:55
  He's like, oh, maybe, you know, every few days you'd come up.
• 19:58
  With me? Not.
• 19:59
  Exaggerating, but he's like, you know, we're rotating.
• 20:02
  Whatnot, but you got this, I'm like.
• 20:04
  I think you're crazy if you think I got this.
• 20:07
  I got one pretty lucky stalk and then other than that I've blown
• 20:10
  everyone's sense so. Well, like.
• 20:14
  The only time I pointed away from you and Ted was when Nick
• 20:17
  and I went to Arizona in the summer and and neither of us
• 20:20
  were successful. But we had a lot of fun and I
• 20:24
  think we definitely grew more as hunters by just having to figure
• 20:29
  it out. And like we, you know, we were
• 20:33
  texting James, but you were on a hunt, you're on an elk hunt, you
• 20:36
  know, you're available all the time.
• 20:38
  But we were just kind of having a trial and error, more error
• 20:41
  than anything else but. That experience from that is not
• 20:47
  that more beneficial than having you and Ted as mentors for
• 20:50
  years, but you learn a lot doing it that way.
• 20:52
  I just think it's a different type of learning when you're out
• 20:57
  by yourself cutting your teeth and.
• 21:00
  Feeling like it's impossible, but then one day something gives
• 21:03
  you 5% all day. Maybe it's possible and then
• 21:06
  maybe by the end of the trip you're to like 25% you think
• 21:09
  it's possible. That's a lot better than 0.
• 21:12
  So what I was trying to jump into though, I just don't think
• 21:17
  those. Birds are ready to fly the coop,
• 21:19
  you know, not 100, maybe like 50% off.
• 21:22
  I was like, maybe I'll wander down a branch, but you know, I
• 21:26
  won't take them. You don't want to.
• 21:27
  Jump out. The window.
• 21:28
  I don't think they're ready to flap.
• 21:30
  But we're going to try. Well, we got too many people all
• 21:33
  hung together, so some of us are going to have to flash.
• 21:35
  It's going to be a social. You know, girl, three or four of
• 21:37
  us in the bed of the Polaris, and then three in the front and
• 21:41
  hope the. Tires don't.
• 21:43
  Patreon.com It's one of them. No, I don't someone.
• 21:48
  Needs to get a Polaris in this room and you.
• 21:50
  Me somebody, we got to get a Polaris.
• 21:52
  I know. Here's the here's the thought,
• 21:55
  though, right? I was saying we all got into it.
• 21:57
  Different ages. And I was curious what your guys
• 22:01
  thoughts are like if and when any of us have children.
• 22:06
  Do you plan to introduce them into hunting as like right out
• 22:09
  the gate as early as possible or do you think it's better to wait
• 22:12
  till they're 15/20/12? Like when do you think's the
• 22:18
  best time to get introduced into hunting?
• 22:21
  I think as soon as my child can stand up and.
• 22:24
  Managed to kind of maneuver around without falling over
• 22:27
  constantly. I will throw a little children's
• 22:31
  bow in their hand. Yeah, I was going to say I think
• 22:35
  it's if if they're interested in it that's like, yeah.
• 22:38
  Don't. Ever.
• 22:38
  I can go force them. Yeah, absolutely.
• 22:40
  You don't want to force it on them, but if they're showing
• 22:43
  interest at a young age, you know, why not get them started
• 22:46
  as soon as possible? It's, I mean, it's it's fun,
• 22:49
  man. That's kind of how you were,
• 22:51
  right. I mean, you probably don't even
• 22:52
  remember starting. Yeah.
• 22:54
  Dude is just always there, you know, because you grew up with
• 22:58
  your dad doing it before you were born.
• 22:59
  And so it was just kind of a natural thing.
• 23:01
  And I think that's probably, you know, probably the case with all
• 23:05
  of our different hobbies. Like our kids are going to be
• 23:07
  more inclined to do those while also finding their own and not
• 23:13
  being pressured to do something just because, you know we did
• 23:15
  it. That's why I wish Paul was, you
• 23:17
  know. Right.
• 23:18
  Sorry Albus, but I wish Paul was right here because.
• 23:20
  Yeah. Yeah, you'd like to think that.
• 23:23
  Like, you know, if it's around in the family and your kids see
• 23:26
  it's something they might naturally want to pick up and do
• 23:30
  pick up, but then you have, you know.
• 23:32
  Like opposite birds here where he, you know, took it and flew
• 23:35
  with it. And I don't really know, you
• 23:36
  know, maybe Paul went a couple times with them or whatnot.
• 23:39
  But then Paul found something else.
• 23:41
  He was more interested in biking and whatnot and and motocross
• 23:44
  and took motocross. I don't know what you thought,
• 23:47
  but you say it the right way. Is there really an R in there?
• 23:50
  I mean, it's a. Moto Moto.
• 23:52
  Moto. Why is the R not there?
• 23:54
  It's a motor. I think that it's just cooler
• 23:57
  shortened Moto X. Maybe.
• 24:00
  You. Know cross.
• 24:01
  X Yeah, that's just what you That's just what you do for.
• 24:03
  Shopping in the air, not crossing.
• 24:05
  Anything. What is motocross or supercross?
• 24:07
  What are you crossing? I don't know.
• 24:09
  I think it's just like a cool. It's a cool name.
• 24:12
  Alright, I mean, that's the best answer I've heard, not.
• 24:14
  Yeah, shout out to Brian Deegan and Hayley Deegan, Marissa
• 24:18
  Hayden, all the guys his. Name.
• 24:20
  Is many famous people. Yeah, one.
• 24:22
  Family. But anyways, yeah, just going
• 24:24
  back to it, I think that would be an interest.
• 24:26
  Interesting topic is just because you know when Paul's
• 24:28
  here. Yeah.
• 24:29
  Nature versus nurture, really. Yeah, absolutely.
• 24:32
  You know, and it probably was, he was around it and then just
• 24:35
  chose that it wasn't for him. Which I'm kind of the opposite.
• 24:38
  My dad never haunted, never big hunter, but I spent a lot of
• 24:42
  time up in Montana with my uncle, and that's all he does.
• 24:45
  And you know, I was kind of watching him, seeing some
• 24:47
  pictures of some of the bulls that he's killed and deer and
• 24:50
  all sorts of stuff. And I took a took a liking to
• 24:54
  it. Started watching some videos.
• 24:56
  Started watching motorcycles. Let's go.
• 24:58
  You know I was there since 1500. Subs.
• 25:01
  That's right, OG. Since you were.
• 25:03
  Going to 15 or something probably. 14 Yeah, 13 That's
• 25:07
  crazy. Yeah.
• 25:08
  But I mean, it's like some people I feel like are kind of
• 25:13
  tuned to enjoy hunting. And I agree with that, you know.
• 25:16
  Fishing. Lots of different styles like so
• 25:19
  I grew up fishing, you know but and there's there's lots of
• 25:22
  different styles of hunting like some people.
• 25:25
  Might not like the hunting, where you are rarely even seeing
• 25:28
  animals, let alone successful you know.
• 25:31
  So they might gravitate more towards a rifle and then more
• 25:35
  towards, you know. Ranches or more torrents like,
• 25:39
  you know, guided hunts, things like that.
• 25:41
  They might not have the patience to go out and do this spot and
• 25:43
  stock on their own with time. Yeah, you know and so.
• 25:48
  Yeah. Yeah, which is, you know, which
• 25:50
  is a big part. There's just a broad spectrum of
• 25:53
  of hunting, absolutely. You know, hunting and fishing
• 25:55
  and just being self-sufficient. That right can take you
• 25:58
  anywhere. For sure and one thing I think
• 26:00
  that like. For getting kids into hunting
• 26:04
  specifically, that I think's really, really beneficial for
• 26:07
  children specifically is the work ethic you can gain.
• 26:11
  If you want to be a successful honor, you're going to have to
• 26:14
  learn how to bust your ass and show up every day and be on the
• 26:17
  field. That's what I always say.
• 26:18
  You got to be on the field and you know, it's like being a
• 26:22
  baseball player who. You know, their hamstrings
• 26:25
  strained a little more than a lot of the other guys.
• 26:27
  If if you do that hunting, you're not going to punch many
• 26:29
  tags. So I think, like, you can learn
• 26:31
  that persistence and also just how to attack life, you know?
• 26:36
  I think that like when I'm hunting.
• 26:39
  You guys know, up every morning, always out there on time, but
• 26:42
  sometimes you get back to your regular life and work and all of
• 26:45
  a sudden you're snoozing a little more, sleeping in more,
• 26:48
  and you got to go now. Now I got to attack this like I
• 26:51
  would be attacking having a bull tag in my pocket, right?
• 26:54
  You know what I mean? Like that, I think.
• 26:56
  Of hunting and yeah, that's a more like with sports for kids.
• 26:59
  Yeah, you know like kids play sports and and learn discipline
• 27:03
  and and what it takes to to be successful.
• 27:06
  You know you can't. Not show up to practice or not
• 27:08
  try and practice and then get up to the plate and expect that
• 27:11
  you're going to get on base. Same with archery or hunting or
• 27:14
  any style. You can't just leave the bow or
• 27:16
  the gun in the closet and then show up on, you know, the first
• 27:20
  day of season and expect that you're going to be able to
• 27:23
  deliver. It's just not going to work that
• 27:25
  way. So those life lessons you know
• 27:28
  of teaching a kid through sports or archery, which I guess in
• 27:32
  essence of sport, you know those those things that are best
• 27:36
  taught by just doing. And and.
• 27:39
  You know, experiencing on your own, you know with with family
• 27:42
  and and friends or parents that are going to teach them those
• 27:46
  things that like you said, are going to carry outside of just
• 27:49
  hunting into business, into their life, relationships,
• 27:52
  things like that. Yeah, and I mean, it's a great,
• 27:55
  to your point. I like what you said about, you
• 27:58
  know, with family and friends. I do love hunting by myself and
• 28:02
  I was talking. To Brianna about this Saturday.
• 28:04
  I haven't got to really like hunt by myself and like lock in
• 28:08
  on something since like 2017. So it's been a while, but mostly
• 28:13
  when you're hunting, you know you at least are at a camp with
• 28:16
  buddies or family or whatever. And I think that camaraderie is
• 28:21
  also super important learning those people skills.
• 28:24
  And for me, when I was younger, like Jack's age or younger,
• 28:27
  people would always like compliment my dad and say like
• 28:30
  James has such good people skills with adults and this and
• 28:33
  that. And he goes, well, James has
• 28:35
  been coming to hunting camp with all adults and he was the only
• 28:38
  kid since he was five years old. So of course, like, I'm going to
• 28:41
  know how to interact with older people.
• 28:44
  Just like Jack. You wouldn't know he's as young
• 28:46
  as he is unless we knew that, you know, and that's probably
• 28:49
  largely due to hunting, would you say?
• 28:51
  I'd say a lot of it's hunting. Definitely.
• 28:54
  Some of it is. I working, starting working at
• 28:58
  relatively young age. I worked at a golf course.
• 29:00
  It was a carboy for a summer when I was 14.
• 29:05
  And, you know, just talking to clients, learn how to talk to
• 29:07
  adults. But you know, ever since I can
• 29:09
  remember, I mean like the same type of deal other parents have
• 29:15
  been, you know, telling my parents how respectful I am or
• 29:18
  you know, how good I am at talking to them.
• 29:20
  I think a lot of kids are afraid.
• 29:23
  To talk to adults. But I've just never really,
• 29:26
  never really had that. You know, obviously you want to
• 29:29
  be respectful, but you can still talk to people who are older
• 29:33
  than you. But I, you know, most of my
• 29:35
  friends, they don't go say hi to my parents or whatever.
• 29:39
  And it's just very brief and kind of awkward.
• 29:41
  And I don't know, like I I think a lot of people are kind of born
• 29:45
  with that. Just the just the natural people
• 29:48
  skills and more. Mature.
• 29:49
  Yeah, More mature earlier. And I think some of it also is
• 29:54
  in that kind of like what you're saying, but it's your parents
• 29:57
  saying, you know, like go go shake their hand and go say
• 30:00
  goodbye to miss or misses Or, you know, when you see somebody,
• 30:03
  you know, shake their hand and look them in the eye and use
• 30:06
  their last name. Just those kinds of things that
• 30:08
  you've just taught. Growing up, yeah.
• 30:10
  But then in combination with being just born more mature,
• 30:13
  yeah. Absolutely carryover.
• 30:14
  A lot of its parenting too. Like remember my dad one year
• 30:19
  when I was like 7 or 8 probably, I was throwing limes.
• 30:22
  I was picking limes off of our lime Bush in the backyard and I
• 30:26
  was throwing them at the neighbors window.
• 30:28
  I don't know why I was doing that.
• 30:30
  The neighbor comes running. Down the street, knocks on the
• 30:33
  door. Your son was throwing lines at
• 30:35
  the window. Whatever.
• 30:36
  And I'm and and I'm in the back just shaking like scared, even
• 30:40
  though I I was totally in the wrong there.
• 30:42
  And then my dad comes home from work that day and he makes me
• 30:45
  get up and go knock on the door and apologize.
• 30:48
  And you know it's he always liked to put me in those kind of
• 30:52
  uncomfortable situations with adults.
• 30:54
  But I think that it really, really helped for the long run,
• 30:57
  you know? Yeah, no, agreed.
• 30:59
  I think, yeah, anytime in anything that you have to be
• 31:03
  again pushed out the nest and become like uncomfortable I
• 31:07
  think is when you're going to find right growth, not when
• 31:10
  you're just like. Doing what makes you super
• 31:12
  comfortable, then you're just kind of doing the same thing,
• 31:15
  right? But a lot of times, like if you
• 31:17
  think back on like real rough patches of your life and then
• 31:21
  think about like where you were at in that rough patch, hate and
• 31:24
  life. But then coming out of it 3-4
• 31:27
  months, a lot of times you're like, wow, I really grew a lot
• 31:30
  from that experience. And then yeah, also like when
• 31:33
  you're in the rough patch. You don't really know that
• 31:36
  you're in the rough patch until you're out of it.
• 31:37
  You know, it's like, true, Yeah, it's it's, it's very eye
• 31:40
  opening. Once you're out of it, you're
• 31:42
  like, holy crap, I was, It's a bad spot.
• 31:46
  Well, that's wild stuff. And I'm sure you being in the
• 31:49
  military probably have had to deal with a bunch of stuff that
• 31:52
  has made you uncomfortable or things of that, Especially being
• 31:56
  a woman. Would you say that's helped you
• 31:58
  a lot just in personal growth? Yeah, yes and no.
• 32:03
  I would say maybe I could say that if I'd come in, you know,
• 32:06
  right after college at 22 years old or something.
• 32:09
  But I came in a lot older at 27, so with, you know, multiple
• 32:15
  professional careers under my belt before that.
• 32:18
  So you just kind of come in with different head on your shoulders
• 32:21
  that you're already a bit more mature.
• 32:23
  So if anything, it's just a little more eye opening to see
• 32:27
  young college graduates. In a professional workplace and
• 32:33
  you're just looking from, you know, the third party or you
• 32:36
  know, bird's eye view at what's you know going on in front of,
• 32:39
  you're like, man, she almost wished like they had more like
• 32:43
  professional career classes in high school or you know, like
• 32:46
  European schools do a lot more trade schools and trade classes
• 32:49
  and things like that. Just where people learn how to
• 32:52
  be professional or how to handle your money or or whatever it is,
• 32:57
  teaches you to be a bit more mature.
• 32:59
  Not because you see them and you're like, I don't know if I
• 33:03
  want to talk to the CEO in that way.
• 33:05
  Yeah, I think, yeah. Like you're saying, a lot of it
• 33:08
  might not be. They just don't know.
• 33:09
  You know, they just never. I mean, some of it, some of it,
• 33:12
  you know, is just, you know, a lack of respect or they're
• 33:15
  thinking that that doesn't is not important, you know?
• 33:18
  Or maybe they weren't taught those same values, but they also
• 33:20
  might just, you know. Be unaware of it.
• 33:22
  That's not the way you do it. Or that's not how you should.
• 33:25
  You know, that's just generational.
• 33:28
  Generational. Changes.
• 33:30
  You know, I mean if you look at how strict parenting and kids
• 33:34
  were, you know, years and years ago where there was, it wasn't
• 33:37
  really much of a relationship. It was kind of just this was a
• 33:40
  parent and this was the kid and it's a one way conversation to
• 33:44
  where we are now. It's just, you know, it's a.
• 33:47
  Big scale? Yeah, it is pretty wild.
• 33:49
  But the people that are, you know.
• 33:52
  In the hunting communities and are being taught those kinds of,
• 33:56
  you know, habits I think generally tend to be a little a
• 33:59
  little better off and and learn, learn through those those trials
• 34:04
  and experiences, you know, and they think about like the
• 34:07
  experience of of taking an animal, especially at a young
• 34:11
  age. I didn't do that at a young age,
• 34:13
  but you probably did. You know that that's got to take
• 34:16
  a, you know, take a bit and and either shape you one way or
• 34:19
  another. You might be totally turned off
• 34:21
  from hunting. By having to do it at a young
• 34:23
  age. Or you might.
• 34:24
  You know that's part of it. Yeah, yeah, I think you're
• 34:28
  right. Yeah, I I cried.
• 34:29
  The first deer I ever killed. But I was going to say.
• 34:33
  It's it's yeah, it's just such a weird it feels, I don't want to
• 34:38
  come across as like, you know, brutal or whatever, but it feels
• 34:43
  natural. But it's also very like, it's
• 34:46
  very emotional, like it can definitely be very emotional.
• 34:49
  And I was, you know. I was happy that it was a clean
• 34:52
  kill, which I was very happy about, but still it's just
• 34:56
  pulling. I don't, I don't want to say I
• 34:57
  was sad. I mean, obviously I felt some
• 34:59
  remorse, but yeah, it really is eye opening for you when you
• 35:03
  kill your first animal. I mean, I speak from very little
• 35:07
  experience when it takes to actually harvesting the tag
• 35:10
  harvesting, but like I think the the persona that's cast from the
• 35:15
  from outside the honey community is that it's it's done for.
• 35:19
  It is not for fun, but that it's you're just killing something to
• 35:21
  kill something or that you're not appreciating the ACT.
• 35:25
  And I think you appreciate it even more from the amount of
• 35:29
  work you put in, from the perspective you have towards
• 35:32
  those animals, by being around them for so long, by, you know,
• 35:36
  beating them at their game there where they live and and survive
• 35:39
  way more than they they don't. You appreciate that animal And
• 35:43
  then to be able to see it in its true environment and then?
• 35:47
  Connect with it. You know, once you are
• 35:49
  successful, yeah, that that emotion right there is going to
• 35:52
  be, in my opinion, way stronger than someone that from the
• 35:55
  outside can just say that they love animals.
• 35:57
  Oh dude, I've always said that I think, you know, people that are
• 36:02
  like animal lovers or vegans or or whatever that have had a very
• 36:06
  negative view towards hunting and claim to like, love and
• 36:10
  respect animals so much. I really believe that hunters
• 36:14
  respect and know animals much better than people like that.
• 36:18
  Because for me, I know how not only tough their life is, but I
• 36:22
  know how smart they are, how good they are at surviving, how
• 36:26
  tuned. In they are sometimes like.
• 36:28
  Yeah, I've seen animals like crazy games.
• 36:30
  I don't know if you. Guys knew this, I think I know
• 36:32
  James does, but like there was a time right after college where I
• 36:36
  was think maybe mid towards the end of college and graduating.
• 36:42
  Was I was vegetarian, went full vegan and then.
• 36:47
  Because you were. I was a bit of a pita puffer.
• 36:51
  Oh. Yeah.
• 36:53
  That's wow. Yeah, Peter Puffer.
• 36:56
  Oh, yeah, no. Yeah, Puffer.
• 36:58
  I heard. You.
• 37:00
  Yeah, I just want to make sure we all do.
• 37:03
  But yeah, just I felt very sick that I'm an extreme.
• 37:09
  As most people do extreme animal lover and like if I could have
• 37:15
  100 dogs, I swear I would own a kennel and I would sleep in the
• 37:19
  kennel and I would sleep, but you know each night would be
• 37:21
  dedicated to a different dog. Yeah.
• 37:25
  Exactly. You can't take me to an animal
• 37:28
  shelter because I will sob and cry and I will walk out with the
• 37:32
  dog. So we've avoided going to animal
• 37:35
  shelters. But yes, we.
• 37:38
  Have. Yes, so was am an extreme animal
• 37:42
  lover and it is just very different.
• 37:44
  Like I'm still sad even like it's a different feeling they
• 37:47
  said when you shoot your own animal because like adrenaline
• 37:51
  pumping and whatnot. But like prime examples, like
• 37:53
  the Arizona Coos last year, like I went up and.
• 37:56
  Was like saying hello to the deer.
• 37:59
  Good morning. Like, I'm so sorry I petted him.
• 38:02
  I said I'm so sorry, but your dinner.
• 38:04
  Like I have an extreme appreciation for it.
• 38:07
  But it's. Different when you're sitting
• 38:10
  there and you're say, in a tree stand and like an air or in Utah
• 38:14
  and I got to watch this little spike just like play around with
• 38:18
  his little. Spikes.
• 38:19
  With the, you know, bushes that we had cut down from the trees
• 38:23
  and making his little scrapes and, you know, came up to my
• 38:26
  tree and his little bleats and whatnot, like he was just a
• 38:29
  happy go, lucky little spike. And you're like he's living a
• 38:32
  great life, you know, And it's going to take 10 seconds.
• 38:35
  He's never going to know what hit him.
• 38:38
  And then it's over. Whereas, you know, a cow and a
• 38:41
  cattle farm is going to have to send.
• 38:43
  Sometimes it's free range, whatever, but for the most part,
• 38:47
  like they're in pens side by side, they don't rarely get to
• 38:51
  move and that's how they live till they get fat.
• 38:54
  And then, you know, an air gun to the head.
• 38:56
  And that's the end of the cow's life.
• 38:57
  And he never even knew what being a cow was.
• 39:00
  But a wild animal you take from the forest always knew what his
• 39:04
  life was, even if they don't comprehend it because they're
• 39:06
  animals. But.
• 39:07
  I had a very like unique perspective on that.
• 39:10
  I think it was it was the, well, the person only type the deer I
• 39:14
  got in Arizona a couple years ago.
• 39:16
  Dandy, by the way. Yeah, very fun, very fun.
• 39:20
  So I checked that video out if you can, but there's a there's a
• 39:23
  butcher nearby. Where we, you know take took the
• 39:26
  meat to get processed before I drove home and that that butcher
• 39:29
  also processed some of the free range cattle and they happen to
• 39:33
  be processing that same day that I I was either dropping off or
• 39:36
  picking up the meat. And so I I watched them as they
• 39:39
  processed a few of the cows. A much different scenario and
• 39:43
  experience for that cow than it was, you know, for the buck
• 39:47
  that. Was just doing its thing and a.
• 39:50
  Lot of hurting them around. There's a lot of anxiety and
• 39:52
  fear in that animal, which like, I don't know anywhere near the
• 39:56
  depth of science, but if you ask some really good butchers, they
• 40:00
  will know. Like that adrenaline pumping
• 40:04
  through that animal, that fear pumping through that animal
• 40:06
  creates toxins and chemicals that run and then stiffen in the
• 40:10
  muscle as that animal dies, atrophies and, you know,
• 40:14
  whatnot. And it makes that meat a lot
• 40:16
  more tough. You.
• 40:18
  There are ways butchers told me about it like that.
• 40:20
  They get that out of it and whatnot through the processing
• 40:22
  time, but a wild game is never going to feel any of that.
• 40:26
  You know, maybe the 10 seconds that they spent sprinting
• 40:30
  afterwards, 60 yards, but they aren't being herded down the
• 40:33
  lane. Yeah, their whole life.
• 40:35
  Like, you know. You.
• 40:37
  Do. Your job and your best to make
• 40:40
  it as as quick and and painless as possible and then you know is
• 40:45
  the only the brief period and I'm not against eating a steak.
• 40:49
  No, I. Understand.
• 40:52
  I'm just saying that, you know, there is, there's no, there's in
• 40:55
  my opinion no argument in which. Now you know Wild game is is
• 40:59
  worse that's. No, Yeah.
• 41:00
  Yeah, certainly not. Also, you know, like there's
• 41:04
  there's plenty of animal death that comes from just harvesting,
• 41:07
  harvesting fruits and vegetables.
• 41:08
  And you know, like I, I was listening to a podcast somewhere
• 41:13
  in every soybean field, they have to kill every frog, every
• 41:16
  freaking rabbit, every animal who, who's living and eating
• 41:20
  them, their crop. Yeah, so that's someone's just
• 41:23
  drawing an arbitrary line at which they think the animal is
• 41:25
  not. Cute or big enough or funny
• 41:27
  enough, you know? To care.
• 41:31
  And that Bunny is not getting, you know, picked up and taken
• 41:36
  home for somebody's dinner. That bunny's.
• 41:37
  Going to be left as a rock. Those frogs are not turning into
• 41:40
  frog legs like. So when you think about, you
• 41:43
  know, I don't want to ever turn into a.
• 41:46
  Oh my. God.
• 41:48
  Amazing. They're amazing.
• 41:50
  Very good. There's going to be a Florida
• 41:51
  trip. I say this every pod now, Every
• 41:53
  time. There's going to be like a two
• 41:55
  week Florida trip. We're going to experience every
• 41:57
  type of hunting in Florida can be frog being a.
• 42:00
  Little. Miami.
• 42:02
  Little. Miami in there I went during a a
• 42:06
  very special week in Miami known as, like spring break, I
• 42:13
  thought. You were going to say All Star
• 42:14
  Weekend? No, I wasn't sure Spring Break,
• 42:17
  but it was. It was for.
• 42:24
  I'm getting cancelled for sure again.
• 42:27
  Again. Let's go ahead and redirect here
• 42:28
  to frog Legs. I'm going.
• 42:30
  To make. Frog legs.
• 42:31
  I'm going to do. It was a fun time.
• 42:33
  It was a while, but anyways, yeah, Florida, there's a lot of
• 42:38
  frog legs that are it's. What's the craziest thing you
• 42:41
  think you've eaten? I.
• 42:44
  Don't know if I've. Really.
• 42:45
  Well, no. I've had.
• 42:45
  I've had one that thinks pretty wild.
• 42:47
  I'm trying to think that's a good question.
• 42:49
  I don't know. I ate deer raw one time.
• 42:52
  I'm talking species more than crap.
• 42:54
  Species. Shoot, I don't.
• 42:57
  I don't. I don't think I've ever eaten
• 42:59
  anything super crazy. So I think frogs for some people
• 43:01
  would be crazy for all I've had. Alligator.
• 43:04
  Yeah. Which I'm sure you have two.
• 43:08
  Oysters. Yeah, those are harder to me on
• 43:11
  my Kentucky hub, but I said I've.
• 43:12
  Got a kangaroo, See I went to try kangaroo and did not get to
• 43:18
  try it while I was there, I was. But ostrich.
• 43:22
  Yeah. That's pretty wild tricky by the
• 43:24
  way. We have a lot of Australian
• 43:26
  viewership, so shout out to Australia.
• 43:28
  Australia in Texas. I'll fly back out.
• 43:31
  We sold. Let me know when.
• 43:32
  A lot of merch has flown to Australia, let me tell you, so
• 43:36
  that's one of our biggest countries that views.
• 43:38
  So shout out to Australian. Australia is on the top of my
• 43:41
  hunt list. New Zealand, yeah.
• 43:44
  New Zealand also we get some orders for sure, so that's
• 43:47
  pretty cool. We talked about wanting to get
• 43:49
  animals, wanting to put them down quickly and.
• 43:52
  Mainly very important to us at Hunters.
• 43:54
  I'm curious, your guys perspective.
• 43:56
  How much do you guys think that doing 3D shoots, whether local
• 44:01
  or like tack or the Bow Disciples challenge like your
• 44:04
  big shoots, how much do you think that helps in preparation
• 44:08
  for that moment in the hunt? I don't know if it being a 3D
• 44:13
  target shoot has that much. You know, just reps into it.
• 44:20
  I think it's more just reps and now like shooting at a target
• 44:24
  that has that kind of a shape and and the size if that's
• 44:27
  accurate, you know like that that can be important.
• 44:29
  You know like it can train you. Like for example when I the
• 44:33
  first time I ever went hunting I I shot a deer and I aimed like
• 44:38
  center mask biggest you know room for air and I miss you
• 44:42
  ducked it and I missed it. So from then I I bought a 3D
• 44:45
  Target and I went home and I basically.
• 44:48
  You know, train myself to shoot at the pocket.
• 44:51
  I struggle, I think just subconsciously on 3D shoots at
• 44:54
  shooting low. I don't know if it's just I just
• 44:58
  don't aim there, even though I know that's where the rings are.
• 45:00
  I think just my mind is just trying to aim that, you know,
• 45:03
  towards the pocket. So in that sense, it being a 3D
• 45:06
  target at a 3D shoot might be important.
• 45:09
  But more important, as Jack said, it's just it's just time
• 45:12
  behind the bow. But I'm going through the
• 45:14
  process so that. It's second age.
• 45:17
  You like it. Like a lot of things.
• 45:18
  You know when you're in that moment, there's very little I
• 45:22
  think you actually think about or are consciously thinking
• 45:25
  about. You have to already have it.
• 45:28
  So where like, you can now think about all the other little
• 45:30
  things, not how to shoot the bow, that's now just a second
• 45:34
  nature, instinct type thing. I mean, you can have the most
• 45:38
  realistic 3D target and practice on it, you know, hours a day.
• 45:43
  But nothing compares to when you're at full draw on that elk
• 45:47
  or that deer. Everything pretty much just goes
• 45:50
  out the window. You just have to, you know, rely
• 45:52
  on your fundamentals and all your practice.
• 45:54
  But it's just like, you know, your heart's pumping, you're
• 45:57
  shaking, you're probably not in an ideal shooting position.
• 46:00
  It's just everything goes out the door and you're just like, I
• 46:05
  mean, sometimes I've shot at things and I don't even remember
• 46:09
  like. That that whole 30 second
• 46:11
  interval of you know, even if I killed it like whatever the it's
• 46:15
  it just all goes out the window and you're you forget a lot
• 46:18
  about what happens. Yeah, yeah.
• 46:20
  I think that like aside from not the targets that are beneficial,
• 46:24
  but I think when you do 3D shoots that have like the
• 46:28
  terrain mixed in like motorcycles challenge or Total
• 46:31
  Archery challenge or things like that.
• 46:33
  I think that you're really benefiting from shooting on the
• 46:37
  type of terrain that you're shooting on, whether it's steep
• 46:40
  down, steep up, the footings messed up, You're shooting next
• 46:43
  to a tree. That's where it maybe becomes a
• 46:45
  little more beneficial than shooting a block target in your
• 46:49
  yard, which is also really good and important.
• 46:52
  Absolutely. But I think mixing in those
• 46:54
  variables of elevation and side slope and all that stuff, wind,
• 46:58
  whatever. That is the benefit, right?
• 47:02
  In Holden, for a long time, you really should be practicing that
• 47:05
  a lot too. I think, 'cause there's times
• 47:06
  where, like, they'll draw back, but it's not a good shot.
• 47:10
  They're quartering away from you or towards you or whatever it
• 47:12
  may be, and you got to wait 30 seconds, even a minute, until
• 47:17
  they you get that there's. Certainly a physical aspect to
• 47:21
  almost elbow honey. Oh yeah, just being able to,
• 47:24
  Being able to. Say, yeah, I can hike up there
• 47:27
  and glass and then I can hike down and I can hike up the hill
• 47:31
  where I saw it and go get it. That's a cardio aspect, the
• 47:34
  strength aspect of at the end of the day after I've been doing
• 47:38
  all that, now I have to draw my bow back, and if I'm in a
• 47:42
  situation where I have to hold it or let down and do it again,
• 47:45
  I can do so quietly and still be able to make a good shot
• 47:50
  afterwards. So like that that physical
• 47:52
  aspect. You know, super important
• 47:54
  shouldn't be overlooked as part of the training and practice in
• 47:59
  bow hunting. You know if if all you're going
• 48:00
  to, if you're a target shooter, probably not that important.
• 48:03
  Obviously just the muscle reps are still going to be there, you
• 48:05
  know, But the cardio aspect, there's not as much.
• 48:08
  If you're hunting. If you're hunting that, that has
• 48:12
  to be. Especially western hunting spot
• 48:14
  in stock. It's one thing if you're in a
• 48:15
  tree stand, yeah. For sure, Brianna just had a
• 48:20
  moment. On our last hunt, where she can
• 48:22
  attest to the importance of being in shape and being able to
• 48:25
  do it and not pulling a bow, that's over pounded for you.
• 48:29
  You know when we were on that side slope, we had a bowl right
• 48:32
  there. It took you a few tries to get
• 48:34
  the bow back. Right, took.
• 48:36
  I think it was five tries, yeah. So I mean we were 10 miles into
• 48:42
  the day probably and then we you know it's like.
• 48:48
  Uphill plateau, uphill plateau. And I think we're reaching the
• 48:53
  third plateau. So like on top of 10 miles in
• 48:56
  now you're hiking straight up with a backpack, you know, with
• 49:00
  a couple liters of water in it and your bow and and it was just
• 49:07
  by that third plateau. And you know, we didn't make it
• 49:10
  to the top because the elk was at the top.
• 49:12
  So we're like trying to sit, slash, stand on the slope.
• 49:16
  So again it goes back to like shooting that uneven stuff,
• 49:20
  what's not normal not a flat ground.
• 49:22
  So trying to like, squat there, draw my bow back while keeping
• 49:27
  pressure to, you know, stay standing and not fall down the
• 49:29
  mountain yet balance and you're. Shooting uphill and you're
• 49:32
  shooting uphill. So all that weight's going
• 49:34
  backwards when you're trying to pull it took five tries before I
• 49:38
  got it back and it was it was rough.
• 49:42
  Luckily that didn't cause me to you know miss it or anything
• 49:44
  like miss an opportunity that just it didn't play out that way
• 49:47
  with what the elk did. But it was he's he's very hard
• 49:53
  about this. It's gross buddy.
• 49:57
  But yeah, it's now I'm dumb and but we got a couple months till
• 50:01
  Arizona so we turned the poundage up on the bow.
• 50:03
  So. But see that that.
• 50:05
  That's a good experience too, though, because it teaches you a
• 50:08
  few things. One, you might be a little
• 50:10
  overbowed. Possibly #2.
• 50:13
  It's like, OK, I need to get stronger.
• 50:16
  Like it teaches you those things, but you don't learn that
• 50:18
  unless you're in the field and in those positions, you know.
• 50:20
  So I think that's really important to know.
• 50:23
  And then hopefully next time around you're you're more geared
• 50:26
  up for it and that happens to people all the time.
• 50:29
  So just getting the opportunity to put yourself in those
• 50:33
  positions where that could happen and then if it does, OK,
• 50:37
  now I got to make the. Improvements so it doesn't
• 50:40
  happen again, ideally. Yeah, I think, I think those 3D
• 50:43
  targets and those 3D shoots are huge and I think Southern
• 50:47
  California, I don't, I don't know about other areas of the
• 50:50
  state or country has a, you know, a large number of them and
• 50:54
  a different locations to give you that practice make an attack
• 50:58
  event at least one or two a year I think is great.
• 51:01
  Every time you find yourself in a a spot where you're like, this
• 51:04
  sucks, like I might I can't get any footing or like I got to do
• 51:07
  this or this. That should be good in a moment,
• 51:10
  you know, kind of, like complain about it.
• 51:13
  But that's that's great because now you have to think, hey, what
• 51:18
  would I do? Do I without the pressure of an
• 51:19
  animal? Do I take a knee?
• 51:21
  Do I like shooting from a knee? Do I shoot up from my butt?
• 51:24
  You know, do I Crouch, but figure it out then?
• 51:27
  That way you. Can say I've done this before.
• 51:30
  This is what worked. This is within it.
• 51:32
  And not have it cause an error in the situation that's already
• 51:35
  stacked against Yeah like not even just what you like, but
• 51:38
  like like what you says at then there's like what works.
• 51:42
  So like especially for me with a slow bow and a big arc like we
• 51:48
  had opportunities I just didn't take because we were unsure and
• 51:52
  I think we could have and I think they were pretty unlikely
• 51:55
  that they would have been successful.
• 51:57
  So good thing that we didn't send it, but is knowing like
• 52:01
  what you what your bow and its capabilities and limitations
• 52:05
  are. Like with hanging branches with
• 52:07
  windows. You know, like knowing hey, if I
• 52:10
  took a knee and I got this pretty good sized window or
• 52:13
  whatever, Like you can equate that to what you're looking at
• 52:16
  in real life down the road. But if you don't practice that
• 52:19
  stuff like you could send it hit a tree limb you never thought
• 52:22
  your bow would arc do, and boom, not just either miss, but also
• 52:27
  end up hitting it in a spot you didn't intend to.
• 52:29
  That's maturity I think on. On you in this case or in a
• 52:33
  Hunter's you know in any hunter is be able to have an
• 52:36
  opportunity and say no I don't think so.
• 52:41
  This isn't this isn't right. You know it's not it.
• 52:45
  It looks bad for this reason or I've had this experience before.
• 52:48
  Therefore I know that this outcome is even less likely.
• 52:52
  Don't you? And back in the day, I would
• 52:54
  have been. That's a pro movie, Superman.
• 52:55
  You know young hunter, me women, yeah.
• 52:59
  You could just take every shot you got or just fuck it and see
• 53:02
  if it works. You know, that's that's not,
• 53:04
  that's not part of the art I don't think.
• 53:07
  But like you said each thing, remember that one in Texas that
• 53:09
  we were shooting out there is a 69 Yarder classic and you and I,
• 53:13
  the guys of the group we all missed, our bows are pretty
• 53:17
  similar in in poundage and in size and whatnot.
• 53:22
  And we all we both at the limb. You didn't.
• 53:26
  I think you shot it standing up and like maybe hit over or
• 53:29
  something. I tried to shoot it off my
• 53:31
  knees, I want to say, and clipped the branch so you
• 53:33
  couldn't even hear it or see it until we.
• 53:35
  But all the girl I think basically just went clean over
• 53:38
  just fine because you know. Because it was the art.
• 53:41
  Was this the Boat Disciples challenge?
• 53:43
  No, this was in Texas Attack, but the Boat Cycles challenge, I
• 53:46
  mean that one had a banger for that.
• 53:48
  That dinosaur shot with the branch overtime.
• 53:50
  I hit that branch. So many arrows were logged into
• 53:53
  it because guys are. Pull.
• 53:54
  Up to it. And they would draw and they
• 53:56
  would break a perfect shot and bam, you're buried in a branch.
• 54:00
  And before, when we set it up, actually I moved that I had, I
• 54:05
  think Ted was my dad was there with me setting the target and I
• 54:08
  made him. Move it until you had to shoot
• 54:13
  at. The branch.
• 54:14
  Yeah, yeah. And I knew for a fact a lot of
• 54:17
  people were going to bury arrows in that, and it was cool to see.
• 54:19
  But that right, there's a premium example.
• 54:21
  Not because. Not because they maybe thought
• 54:23
  they probably just didn't even think about it, you know, And
• 54:26
  that's that's that next level of of shooting it.
• 54:29
  And I can remember, like, way back, I didn't think even before
• 54:32
  I was hunting, I was watching, like I'd watch Jim Breuer on TV,
• 54:36
  and I remember him doing the whole thing about, you know,
• 54:38
  hold it up. Now check your.
• 54:40
  If that thing is 30 and it's a 50 yard shot, check your dirty
• 54:43
  pin. See if it's on that branch.
• 54:45
  If it is, you're in trouble. So just learning that, throw
• 54:48
  that into that, you know, into the process and it's, you know.
• 54:51
  There's a lot that could go wrong in hunting.
• 54:54
  Especially bow, specially bow hunting.
• 54:57
  You know, I mean you could do everything perv.
• 55:00
  I always say this in archery. It's like one of the few things
• 55:02
  you have to be 100% perfect because.
• 55:04
  You could be 95% perfect and be sitting on a bedded buck that
• 55:08
  you just spent four hours stocking in on.
• 55:10
  He's 40 yards and he could get up and you could have 3 routes.
• 55:15
  He could go and you can get a shot and he takes the 4th route
• 55:17
  that you can't and that happens and you still did it.
• 55:22
  Perfect. But the luck wasn't perfect, so
• 55:25
  everything has to pan out, you know?
• 55:28
  Which I think is crazy. But I don't know if you guys saw
• 55:31
  this this past week, but I'm sure we probably all follow
• 55:35
  campaigns. 8100 pull ups his son hit in 24 Oh my God, this is.
• 55:42
  Insane. Yeah.
• 55:43
  So can anyone have a phone or calculator do 8100 / 24 what
• 55:48
  his? Son did. 81124 hours.
• 55:51
  It's a world record, his son. His son shout out.
• 55:54
  I'm. Not trying to.
• 55:54
  That's insane. Something seems off 337.
• 55:58
  Point It was filmed live. Nothing can be 81.
• 56:01
  How much? 337. .7 an.
• 56:04
  Hour So 337 pull ups an hour so divide that.
• 56:07
  By. 60 That's 5.625 push ups or pull ups a minute.
• 56:14
  Dude. No 24.
• 56:16
  Hours I. Could see that.
• 56:17
  I could see that. Magnifact check you.
• 56:19
  Shut. Up.
• 56:20
  No, it's a thing, but like. Like the most, like the most
• 56:24
  thing like. You said Cam Haynes.
• 56:25
  Kim's son. True at Haynes.
• 56:28
  The The closest I've ever come to anything like that is doing
• 56:31
  like a Murph workout where you do 100.
• 56:33
  Yeah. That's hard.
• 56:35
  And that's one time in. We'll just call it an hour.
• 56:38
  It's less than that, but whatever.
• 56:39
  Now you got to triple what it was, 300 something and then do
• 56:42
  that 23 more hours. It's insane.
• 56:46
  I don't know. So he had tried this.
• 56:48
  Three other times and did not get the record.
• 56:51
  Had to get out because his hands were too, does he?
• 56:53
  Use any sort of grip or. So from what I saw, I obviously
• 56:59
  didn't sit there and watch the whole 24 hour live feed, but I
• 57:02
  mean when you live stream, that's how you know.
• 57:05
  I know he wasn't cheating, I believe it.
• 57:06
  But it's really cool when you do something live because you go,
• 57:09
  well go watch the 24 hour tape. But but I'm just being a
• 57:12
  handler. He so he did it.
• 57:15
  I saw some with the bare hands and then some.
• 57:17
  I saw he was wearing like farmer's gloves, but his hands
• 57:21
  were still just just. Yeah, I saw this short, the clip
• 57:25
  at the they posted of his like hands literally trembling, and
• 57:29
  it's like pinkies would just randomly twitch and there's just
• 57:32
  big gaping blisters. Yeah, yeah.
• 57:38
  That's great. Impressive.
• 57:40
  I think it goes back to what we're talking about earlier
• 57:43
  with, especially someone like Cam, who's not only a Hunter but
• 57:47
  also does the running and stuff like.
• 57:50
  It's a prime example of how being a parent like that makes
• 57:54
  your kids do super crazy stuff, because that's literally a world
• 57:57
  record. You beat David Goggins, who had
• 57:59
  the previous record of like 8000.
• 58:02
  He beat it by 100. I think he beat it with like an
• 58:05
  hour to go and 100. And 30 minutes to go.
• 58:07
  That's freaking. Insane, right?
• 58:08
  But you know the fact that Truett gets to see his dad bang
• 58:14
  out miles all the time and be successful hunting?
• 58:16
  Be successful at business. You can't tell me that didn't
• 58:19
  help accomplish that pull up build.
• 58:21
  That's for sure. It it's like, you know, the
• 58:25
  expectation or the standard of like someone like me sitting
• 58:29
  here like that's that's impossible.
• 58:30
  That's ridiculous. Yeah.
• 58:32
  Him. He doesn't have that thought
• 58:34
  process towards it, you know, So it's just.
• 58:36
  It's so impressive. Yeah, it's, it's so, so
• 58:40
  impressive. And on top of that like to kind
• 58:43
  of expand on that? You just did a half marathon.
• 58:47
  You're not like a runner. You don't know a ton.
• 58:49
  So. It's 13 point something.
• 58:51
  So tell me about that a little bit.
• 58:54
  Yeah, So, you know, it's funny. You were just talking about
• 58:56
  Goggins. I read his book, Can't Hurt Me.
• 58:59
  And it really, you know, everybody says this, but it
• 59:03
  really did change my life for the better.
• 59:04
  You know, I was for all throughout the whole summer.
• 59:06
  I was washing cars, grinding, but then I'd go to the gym for
• 59:10
  an hour and a half and then I'd run 6 miles a day.
• 59:13
  And I I kept that up for months on end.
• 59:16
  And then I, you know, I signed up for that half marathon and I
• 59:20
  was really happy with my time. I got an hour and 46 minutes.
• 59:26
  Yeah, I just signed up for a full marathon that I'm going to
• 59:28
  do in January, so we'll see how it goes if.
• 59:30
  I have to blog that for BD. Yeah, you know.
• 59:33
  We'll be at the finish line, yeah, we'll.
• 59:35
  Drive from, you know, checkpoint to checkpoint.
• 59:38
  And film. Yeah, pushing.
• 59:39
  Pushing yourself is like one of the best things that you can do,
• 59:42
  not only for your physical health.
• 59:44
  Oh, but for your mental health. It's.
• 59:46
  OK. Yeah, no, for sure.
• 59:48
  How did it feel to? Embark on a goal like that,
• 59:53
  number one, but then actually like how did you feel at the
• 59:56
  start line? Did you feel like man, I'm hosed
• 59:59
  or how? How would how do you feel
• 1:00:00
  before, after, during? So before I was pretty, pretty
• 1:00:05
  anxious and nervous like, oh shoot, this is a big, the
• 1:00:08
  longest run I've ever done. How's it going to go?
• 1:00:11
  But you know when you're when you're in the race and you're
• 1:00:13
  doing it, it feels a lot easier. There's people all around you,
• 1:00:17
  supporting you, cheering you on, ringing the bells.
• 1:00:21
  And then through the race, I'm like, OK, I'm going to do it.
• 1:00:23
  I'm going to do it. I'm going to see my girlfriend
• 1:00:25
  at the finish line. It's going to be great.
• 1:00:27
  And I ended up, you know, running way faster than I would
• 1:00:31
  would have expected. And I, you know, I just, I can,
• 1:00:35
  I can push myself for this hour and a half, two hours, whatever
• 1:00:38
  it may be, and then I'm done. And then I'm going back to my,
• 1:00:42
  you know, relaxed life. What was your approach like?
• 1:00:45
  Did you look at? Like the 13.1 like from the
• 1:00:50
  start? Or did you go OK every mile,
• 1:00:53
  every mile? I just take it one mile.
• 1:00:56
  Not like I got 6 to go, no. I got one to go.
• 1:00:58
  No, it was more. It was more.
• 1:01:00
  Oh, I got 7 down. You know, like it's kind of
• 1:01:03
  glass half full type deal. But it it was a blast.
• 1:01:09
  And I mean just. That's cool.
• 1:01:10
  It's it's all mental. It's like a lot of lot of
• 1:01:14
  archery is mental too. I mean like.
• 1:01:16
  Did you lock in with anybody? Did you run with anybody?
• 1:01:18
  I didn't. Did you like have a similar pace
• 1:01:21
  with somebody kind of keep up or you just kind of were complete
• 1:01:24
  solo? I was running behind this chick.
• 1:01:32
  I. Hope.
• 1:01:34
  Jack's. Girlfriend not watching, but
• 1:01:39
  yes, really really fast Brother. No, it actually happened.
• 1:01:44
  I was pacing her the whole. Time.
• 1:01:45
  And she was fast. And she was very fast.
• 1:01:47
  She was fast. She was a beast.
• 1:01:48
  You were basing her. She was basing you.
• 1:01:50
  I was pacing her. From behind Nice.
• 1:01:53
  Where else would I? Go.
• 1:01:55
  I hope that girlfriend that much.
• 1:01:58
  So what? It is so.
• 1:01:59
  And then afterwards, I assume you celebrated and had some
• 1:02:01
  seven ups and Gatorades or yeah, yeah, let's, we'll go with that.
• 1:02:05
  Nice. OK, cool.
• 1:02:07
  Yeah, it is. It's great.
• 1:02:08
  No, that's cool. I think like you know.
• 1:02:12
  Did you what? Pedial what?
• 1:02:15
  She thought that was the funny part.
• 1:02:17
  It was a good. Part, You know, like.
• 1:02:20
  It's like child. 'S, you know.
• 1:02:22
  It's for children and then he's 18, so it's like.
• 1:02:25
  Yeah. Gosh guys, it just.
• 1:02:27
  Hit me later. Number one, I'm having fun in
• 1:02:30
  this podcast. I also feel just very
• 1:02:32
  comfortable with the new merch. So buddha.com.
• 1:02:36
  Free shipping, you know Physique looks good.
• 1:02:38
  You got to keep the. Arms down though, yeah, you
• 1:02:40
  wouldn't want to put them up. Waiting for those hats we
• 1:02:43
  finally convince you to get? Yeah, it's been Matt.
• 1:02:45
  Time. He's been working on a patch hat
• 1:02:47
  for four years. Probably everyone loves them.
• 1:02:50
  Yeah. Thank you.
• 1:02:50
  For some reason, I'm not saying you were resistant to him.
• 1:02:53
  I think he's a little. Bit of a hater, I think there
• 1:02:55
  are other great patch. Hats out.
• 1:02:57
  There so. I.
• 1:03:00
  Don't so I personally think so. He just, you know.
• 1:03:03
  But these new patch. Hats.
• 1:03:05
  And they're going to sell out quick.
• 1:03:06
  Oh, for sure. You got that pump station one,
• 1:03:10
  that one going to go ballistic? Yeah.
• 1:03:11
  We kind of got 22 lines of merch.
• 1:03:14
  Yeah. There's and James and I've
• 1:03:17
  always had kind of like two different styles and approaches
• 1:03:20
  to to anything, whether it be, you know going out to the bars
• 1:03:23
  or like even a, you know the pool party or whatever.
• 1:03:26
  You know, our suits would be different.
• 1:03:28
  I'm. I'm more of a safe.
• 1:03:30
  You know, still in style, still kind of still pretty cool.
• 1:03:32
  But nothing wild. Yeah.
• 1:03:34
  James over here, yeah, he has like Penguins eating popsicles,
• 1:03:39
  you know, You know and the short.
• 1:03:44
  Yeah, you know. So we got the the pump station
• 1:03:47
  line is kind of your, you know you could wear it out to a rave
• 1:03:52
  maybe you get the lime green and you know something like that you
• 1:03:54
  know or sorry or you. Could just, you know, wear the,
• 1:03:58
  you know, nice green tea here. Yeah, we went basic on the on
• 1:04:01
  the Tees, yeah. So we hit this back this.
• 1:04:03
  Is classic. It's nice.
• 1:04:05
  Yeah, you know this is. I can wear that.
• 1:04:07
  Honey, if I wanted to. Right.
• 1:04:09
  Oh, you. Could.
• 1:04:09
  Yeah, you could. Yeah, I want.
• 1:04:12
  To talk about like, what's the new trend of Hunter's not
• 1:04:17
  wearing camo you. Mean like the.
• 1:04:19
  Solids. Yeah.
• 1:04:20
  What? What is?
• 1:04:21
  This, I think it's all just aesthetics and yeah.
• 1:04:24
  It looks cooler for pictures on the ground.
• 1:04:27
  Is there? I just want to bring.
• 1:04:31
  Yourself tell me about. It I wear.
• 1:04:34
  Yeah, me too. Yeah, I wear Walmart, baby.
• 1:04:38
  Walmart want Mossy Oak, Real Tree.
• 1:04:40
  Hey, by the way, a media kit coming your way.
• 1:04:42
  Mossy oak and real tree. So I'm hoping to be on that
• 1:04:45
  factory stack. Yeah, I'll send it.
• 1:04:48
  I'll send it. Get it?
• 1:04:49
  Get Bri on it. At least I don't know.
• 1:04:51
  But. It is crazy, No.
• 1:04:53
  I think it's like we think of, for example, we're looking at
• 1:04:59
  what can the deer see when we're standing out there and we're
• 1:05:01
  watching our buddy go stalker, You know where that I can see
• 1:05:05
  you. But a deer's eyes or an elk's
• 1:05:09
  eyes or an animal's eyes, for example, are very different.
• 1:05:12
  I don't know what they are, but I'm just saying if they're
• 1:05:15
  putting that out there, a brand such as First Light.
• 1:05:19
  There's probably. A.
• 1:05:20
  Some research. It's probably not just that they
• 1:05:22
  think it's cool. Yeah, that's my guess.
• 1:05:24
  Maybe they're versatile. Do we think it's a factor?
• 1:05:28
  Well, hold on, I'm just saying how brands like Sitka and Qu and
• 1:05:34
  First Light have taken off. I personally think that a lot of
• 1:05:38
  it. Is because people think it looks
• 1:05:41
  cooler. There's a look.
• 1:05:42
  Do we think that's? Part of part of advertising like
• 1:05:45
  for example, you're you're one of, if not the most, you know
• 1:05:49
  successful hunters that I personally know appreciate and
• 1:05:52
  that's out there. Really.
• 1:05:53
  I think you rock Walmart camo. Yeah.
• 1:05:57
  For doing that, Elvis, we're trying to record I rocked
• 1:06:04
  Walmart camo. I watched one of your.
• 1:06:07
  Videos the other day before you Oh.
• 1:06:09
  Yeah, yeah. I switched to Kuyu.
• 1:06:10
  It made no difference sadly. Did you feel?
• 1:06:15
  Better. I felt more comfortable.
• 1:06:18
  And when that thing hit Instagram, you know what I mean?
• 1:06:21
  Well, it looks. A little it.
• 1:06:22
  Looks a little cool, but I don't.
• 1:06:24
  I don't wear it. For that I will say, I will say
• 1:06:25
  this right, even though I like. Just camo I get from Walmart.
• 1:06:30
  I do prefer the stuff that's more form fitting and I think
• 1:06:33
  that these brands we spoke of, that's what they make is more
• 1:06:37
  athletic, tighter fitting gear that's like, you know, just more
• 1:06:41
  breathable. Better.
• 1:06:42
  It's generally better. I mean that is why a portion of
• 1:06:45
  it is the quality is better like that's.
• 1:06:48
  Not a lie. You're paying.
• 1:06:49
  For it, yeah. And a portion of it, but some of
• 1:06:52
  it is going to something that actually someone.
• 1:06:55
  'S gonna face the back quieter. Is quieter.
• 1:06:58
  I don't know about that. Well, I do.
• 1:07:00
  Your pants. You're. 20 years old.
• 1:07:01
  Not my, not my. You.
• 1:07:03
  Know you know that my pants and my gear are super.
• 1:07:07
  They're 20 years old. They've been through the washer
• 1:07:09
  about 8000 times, yeah. Yeah, but you're Pro is.
• 1:07:14
  Pants not to be. Hate or those things.
• 1:07:15
  I can see those. Walking a mile away.
• 1:07:17
  Those are. Bad.
• 1:07:18
  Those are bad, but that's because they have a water coat.
• 1:07:21
  I didn't realize about it. Yes, yeah, if you're.
• 1:07:24
  Stalking. You know, if we could find a
• 1:07:25
  pants as, A pair of pants as. Warm as those.
• 1:07:28
  But pants, if we can find a pants.
• 1:07:32
  If we can find a pair of pants that were as warm as those but
• 1:07:37
  didn't have the darn water coating on it, that's my pants I
• 1:07:41
  still get to. Found that.
• 1:07:43
  No. So I actually double checked I
• 1:07:45
  have the same. Who you attack, I think is the
• 1:07:48
  heavier one. Those are still not as warm as
• 1:07:52
  my pro's pants. But also you can't hear them
• 1:07:56
  from 4 miles away also. What?
• 1:07:58
  Do you know they wear the thermals?
• 1:08:00
  I do. I don't think they're thick
• 1:08:02
  enough. Why don't you buy some heavier
• 1:08:03
  therms? So I did the problem.
• 1:08:05
  Is is my pants are too tight? I did.
• 1:08:07
  Guys, I might give you a pro tip.
• 1:08:10
  The Jack. You got thermals?
• 1:08:12
  Yeah. What do you got?
• 1:08:13
  Under Armour. It's trash.
• 1:08:15
  It's trash. Well.
• 1:08:16
  They're not sponsoring us. No, but Kuyu makes a zip off
• 1:08:22
  pair of thermals. I even.
• 1:08:24
  Own them. So just for this, you know, you
• 1:08:25
  get your dress in the morning, you go out your glass and you
• 1:08:28
  hike your first hill. You know, once the sun comes up
• 1:08:31
  sweating your ass off, yeah. OK, drop your pants, knot your
• 1:08:37
  boots, unzip the thermals, pull your pants back up.
• 1:08:41
  Yeah, and you're ready. That's nice.
• 1:08:44
  That's a huge in the hill. One, it's time consuming, yeah?
• 1:08:48
  Two, you're guaranteed to get at least 1 1/2 thorns in there at
• 1:08:52
  least and one Little Rock, and that's on the minimum.
• 1:08:56
  I will say, I will say this for for the zip offs, number one.
• 1:08:59
  I think that's a great idea. I wanted to bring them to Utah.
• 1:09:02
  Unfortunately, I couldn't find him and then I found him when I
• 1:09:05
  got. Back so.
• 1:09:07
  So I do have them, but I I will say.
• 1:09:13
  Having the ability to not take your boots off is really
• 1:09:17
  important, but with that being said, I was really set on my
• 1:09:21
  next set of hunting boots. Having the Boas so I could just
• 1:09:25
  pop them and take them off super fast then it's not an issue so
• 1:09:29
  much right? If you don't have to unlace the
• 1:09:31
  banana doesn't make the Boas. The only brand I found that made
• 1:09:36
  some boots that I was like those could be pretty good are the
• 1:09:39
  Irish setters that have the Boas and they look they did.
• 1:09:42
  I don't think they do anymore but the Irish setters look good.
• 1:09:46
  I read some reviews, people said they got tore up crazy quick.
• 1:09:49
  I already tear up my boots pretty quick, hiking on rocks
• 1:09:52
  and stuff, but if you tried. 30 seconds.
• 1:09:56
  You might say 15 seconds and undoing and 30 or 15 seconds and
• 1:10:00
  redoing them. You still gotta take the shoe
• 1:10:02
  off. For me it's a convenience and I
• 1:10:04
  haven't like. I won't sit down anywhere like I
• 1:10:07
  got to find a semi Flat Rock, you know?
• 1:10:10
  You do. Matt is a comfort guy.
• 1:10:12
  But it's it proves itself it and you know, we're joking kind of
• 1:10:16
  on the comfort, but I think it's huge.
• 1:10:18
  No, I think it is. I think being comfortable
• 1:10:20
  glassing, whether it's in the chair, if you can manage to hike
• 1:10:23
  a chair up, that's not going to be super loud.
• 1:10:25
  A pad, A Flat Rock. Take time to like, pick out some
• 1:10:30
  of the rocks before you sit down.
• 1:10:31
  Otherwise you're doing this you know for for two hours that
• 1:10:34
  you're there noise. You're not comfortable.
• 1:10:36
  And you're you're not going. To want to stay there.
• 1:10:38
  Your quog is way worse. Your quality of glass, No,
• 1:10:42
  that's what I call it. It's way worse because you're
• 1:10:44
  fidgeting. You're not able to be there.
• 1:10:47
  And I've talked about this a bazillion times, but like so
• 1:10:50
  many guys think, that it's glassing to walk up to the top
• 1:10:54
  of a hill. Go like this and then hike to
• 1:10:59
  the next range. To me, that's not glassy like
• 1:11:01
  you got to spend that time and spending.
• 1:11:04
  That time. Spending that time to your point
• 1:11:07
  is so much easier if you're comfortable in your seat, in
• 1:11:10
  your clothing. And guess what?
• 1:11:12
  That's also true with sitting a tree stand.
• 1:11:15
  Sitting a ground blind. How much harder is it to sit if
• 1:11:18
  your toes are freezing off your goal?
• 1:11:19
  I have that app. Your toes.
• 1:11:21
  Your fingers. You know, like you're just less
• 1:11:23
  likely to. It's already hard.
• 1:11:25
  You're already tired. You've already been hiking?
• 1:11:28
  You're already want to just, you know, people don't want to sit
• 1:11:31
  for very long naturally. We're just conditioned to just
• 1:11:33
  go, go, go. But if you can be comfortable in
• 1:11:37
  your seat and then in your clothing and be warm and then
• 1:11:40
  you know it. I will pay whatever a lot of
• 1:11:42
  this stuff. Has a money aspect to it which
• 1:11:44
  you know so. He's the star of the show, by
• 1:11:51
  the way, Someone left a comment and they said.
• 1:11:54
  They said I'm very impressed. You found a couch to match the
• 1:11:57
  dog. Yeah, and I thought that was a
• 1:12:00
  great comment. You know, but if you can like if
• 1:12:04
  I what? All right.
• 1:12:05
  Let me throw this question. You have two things in your
• 1:12:10
  equipment cash that you can spend that you're going to do
• 1:12:14
  all your money too. I'm I don't want to, like, start
• 1:12:17
  listening things. No.
• 1:12:20
  No, I'm just saying if you're going to like, if you're going
• 1:12:22
  to choose two things that you're going to spend the money on, you
• 1:12:25
  know, so that could be like you could buy a quad because it's
• 1:12:29
  easier for you to ride a quad and hike somewhere.
• 1:12:31
  For example, what are the two things?
• 1:12:35
  Clothing. Bow optics.
• 1:12:38
  Boots. What are you spending money?
• 1:12:40
  On Is this to be successful on hunts?
• 1:12:42
  Now you think from your experience will give you the
• 1:12:45
  best chance of being successful? We're going to start here, all
• 1:12:48
  right. For me, I think the two most
• 1:12:50
  important things saying the two. Well, we'll.
• 1:12:54
  See where the Yeah, I'll give a little feedback, maybe after we
• 1:12:57
  loop through, but for me #1 without question.
• 1:13:02
  Is a good tripod for me that you should definitely spend the
• 1:13:05
  money to get a good tripod. That a tripod A.
• 1:13:08
  Tripod. You start with a good a tripod
• 1:13:11
  but a good tripod. Shout out to Vanguard is what I
• 1:13:14
  like, but having a good tripod is key.
• 1:13:19
  Second, I like that you said Polaris, because that I was
• 1:13:23
  going to say binoculars is a second choice, but honestly, I
• 1:13:27
  might go. I might go something like a
• 1:13:30
  Polaris Ranger for the 2nd so tripod and a Ranger because the
• 1:13:33
  Ranger, although I'm not scared to put in miles and I'm cool to
• 1:13:39
  do it. The fact that you could drive
• 1:13:42
  further out on a road than someone in the Chevy 1500 or
• 1:13:46
  whatever. And then hike.
• 1:13:48
  And then hike from there just opens up so much opportunity.
• 1:13:53
  So for me I'll say a Polaris or some sort of side by side.
• 1:13:57
  And a good tripod. All right.
• 1:13:59
  Great. I would say I'm going to go
• 1:14:02
  definitely Polaris or side by side or Quad, because if we're
• 1:14:06
  talking like now, I don't know, we didn't specify.
• 1:14:09
  Is this money like if someone was going to if I didn't have to
• 1:14:11
  pay the money like? I mean, you know, it's not like
• 1:14:14
  ridiculous, but like, you know, it's honey equipment.
• 1:14:16
  You got to spend it. Yeah, if you're going to be in
• 1:14:18
  the sport. If I had the money, it would be
• 1:14:21
  a side by side. For sure, just seeing the places
• 1:14:26
  in Arizona we can get further than we can with a car and then
• 1:14:31
  hike the rest of the way in, you know, vastly changes what we
• 1:14:37
  were seeing so. Number one is.
• 1:14:39
  Number one is. Side by side #2 for me is
• 1:14:42
  comfort. So it's clothing.
• 1:14:44
  I would blow so much money on a summer set of clothes, a winter
• 1:14:48
  set of clothes and boots. Summer boots, winter boots, you
• 1:14:53
  know, the the under gear, the over gear, the rain gear, all of
• 1:14:58
  it. Because I think it plays again
• 1:15:02
  for me, some of pitcher and moaner.
• 1:15:05
  It plays a factor in comfort like throughout the day, like
• 1:15:08
  how much are you distracted thinking about how cold and
• 1:15:11
  Brandon. Maybe some people don't get as
• 1:15:12
  cold as like I do, but if I can focus less on how uncomfortable
• 1:15:20
  I am. I'm be happy, like especially
• 1:15:23
  again. I'm going to go back to Kuyu
• 1:15:24
  like this. These merino wolves that you
• 1:15:27
  cannot like, You could sweat your ass off in them and you
• 1:15:31
  eventually it'll smell, but. We'll have that natural odor
• 1:15:35
  resistant, which is, you know, that's kind of like a double
• 1:15:38
  because now you're also comfortable in that, but you're
• 1:15:41
  also now more. Successful on the stock.
• 1:15:44
  You're eliminating scent. You know it doesn't hold it in.
• 1:15:48
  It washes out better. You know other shirts that I
• 1:15:50
  have? I can wash them.
• 1:15:52
  Yeah, no, I want to. Well, not, yeah.
• 1:15:54
  All right, so we got, we got a tripod and we got a side by
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  side. We got a side by side and we got
• 1:15:59
  clothing. Jack, I'm going to go glass.
• 1:16:02
  That's probably the number one thing that I would say is
• 1:16:06
  crucial. Yeah, I I haunted in just this
• 1:16:09
  past September. I was up in Montana oak hunting
• 1:16:11
  with my uncle and I have these, you know, vortex, crossfires
• 1:16:15
  lowest and vortex. You can have.
• 1:16:18
  And he's got the razors and you know, I was looking through my
• 1:16:22
  glass and I'm like, oh look at that spike over there.
• 1:16:24
  And he's like Jack, that's not a spike.
• 1:16:26
  That's like a seven point bull. Yeah.
• 1:16:30
  So I mean it's it's they're it's pretty important to have good
• 1:16:34
  glass. And then the second thing I
• 1:16:36
  would definitely say is a wind checker, even though that's not
• 1:16:40
  expensive, but it is. You can buy all the scent
• 1:16:45
  products or scent killers or whatever it doesn't do.
• 1:16:48
  Anything. Nope.
• 1:16:50
  It's. It's just win, win, win.
• 1:16:52
  Facts. That's great.
• 1:16:55
  Yeah, that was a great round, yeah.
• 1:16:56
  It was. What about you?
• 1:16:59
  I asked the question, you know, OK.
• 1:17:02
  Let. Me just ask this if you had a
• 1:17:07
  pick between quality of glass and.
• 1:17:12
  We'll say like distance. What?
• 1:17:13
  Is there a magnification? Where are you picking?
• 1:17:19
  Quality, for sure. I have three sets of glass that
• 1:17:22
  I use. So I have the seven power, Zeiss
• 1:17:25
  is very high end binocular and then I have the 25 powers that
• 1:17:29
  are lower end and then I have the spotter which they're all
• 1:17:33
  they're. Those are both fine, but they're
• 1:17:35
  not the Zeiss but. You guys both know I spend most
• 1:17:38
  of my time even looking ridiculous distance with the
• 1:17:41
  seven powers, and then I use those to further assess what I
• 1:17:44
  find. So I think having at least one
• 1:17:47
  set, whatever your primary is going to be, I think should be
• 1:17:50
  high end, as high end as you can afford.
• 1:17:54
  And then beyond that, the higher magnification, you're really
• 1:17:58
  only using it to see what the buck is, what the bowl is that I
• 1:18:02
  think you can, you know, save some money if you want to.
• 1:18:05
  So you. So yeah, what What are the mags
• 1:18:07
  you have? So I have 725 and then I think
• 1:18:11
  it's 20 through 60. For the OK, what do you have?
• 1:18:13
  I have a 10 and a 15. OK, Jack, I have a four.
• 1:18:19
  A4A. 4. Power.
• 1:18:20
  Jack like. No.
• 1:18:21
  It's not 4. Your binos, they're not four
• 1:18:24
  power. Your cell phones got more zoom
• 1:18:26
  than that though. It's not 4 power, I guarantee
• 1:18:28
  you. You don't think?
• 1:18:29
  So no, it's at least 8 vortex I don't think.
• 1:18:33
  They actually make a four, but you're.
• 1:18:36
  Crazy bastard. Could be an 8, so I haven't, I
• 1:18:39
  don't know the things. The thing is.
• 1:18:40
  Wore off of Probably an 8. Yeah, probably.
• 1:18:43
  Probably. I have a 10 and 18 and then the.
• 1:18:50
  Eighteens are nice. You're only using that for for,
• 1:18:54
  you know, just to just to be jolly about looking at if I
• 1:18:57
  standing. By.
• 1:18:58
  I'm not scanning with the spotter.
• 1:19:00
  Now see, I would like a spotter if I put my what's that thing
• 1:19:03
  that I finally gave up and bought on?
• 1:19:06
  Yeah, you. Bought it finally.
• 1:19:07
  I did, yeah. I need to buy you.
• 1:19:09
  Gotta stop enabling him. What?
• 1:19:11
  Do you mean I will say oh. So he goes and buys.
• 1:19:13
  Hold on. I will say this, I will say
• 1:19:18
  this. Glassing matters a lot less on
• 1:19:25
  your equipment and more so on how much you practice the skill
• 1:19:30
  and how little time you're on your phone.
• 1:19:33
  So many people on the Glass waste way too much time on their
• 1:19:37
  phone and this is going to kill your results when glassing.
• 1:19:41
  So to me, you don't have to go buy a set of $2000 ice.
• 1:19:46
  Don't. I'd say don't.
• 1:19:47
  Yeah, you don't even have to, right?
• 1:19:49
  I've had mine for 20 years, like I've had them a long, long time.
• 1:19:54
  And, she jokes. They look like they're from the
• 1:19:56
  Holocaust. They do look old, but they're
• 1:19:57
  really, really good by now. But just work.
• 1:20:01
  On the Yeah, I'm getting cancelled again.
• 1:20:05
  What are our thoughts on? Bo disciples getting cancelled?
• 1:20:10
  Yeah, OK, what do we think about me getting cancelled a few
• 1:20:13
  times? Yeah, that's big.
• 1:20:15
  Dates are in fact the low. Yeah, basically we're all.
• 1:20:18
  Curious. You can't.
• 1:20:19
  You can't get cancelled if you don't care about getting
• 1:20:21
  cancelled. You keep.
• 1:20:23
  It. On let it cancel, you let it
• 1:20:25
  happen. Whatever let it happen.
• 1:20:27
  It was monetization. Oh, you can't let that.
• 1:20:29
  Happen. Yeah.
• 1:20:30
  Pick up some sponsors. Maybe we're talking about it.
• 1:20:33
  Brianna's a big sponsor gal. Me, not a big sponsor gal.
• 1:20:36
  But. The glass thing, like you said,
• 1:20:39
  the glass thing is predominantly your time behind them.
• 1:20:44
  It doesn't have to be an expensive pair.
• 1:20:46
  Could you tell like and I think it's a lot of eyes too and your
• 1:20:49
  experience like yes, you can tell through your sevens, you
• 1:20:53
  know this side of the rack versus outside with a drop here
• 1:20:57
  this that. And I can't see that with my
• 1:20:59
  teens. You just have the eyes for it.
• 1:21:01
  You know it's a bit. So it's either it's a.
• 1:21:03
  Some people maybe just have better eyes for that and then
• 1:21:05
  yours are also trained to see it or when to look and when you can
• 1:21:08
  tell based on the you know where it's looking.
• 1:21:11
  But me buying expensive glass with more magnification isn't
• 1:21:15
  going to make a difference in me knowing there's a buck over
• 1:21:17
  there, especially at my position in in hunting.
• 1:21:22
  That's a. Nanny enough buck to go get.
• 1:21:24
  I know it's at that Bush. I can go get it back, right?
• 1:21:29
  Yeah, right. I don't need to know, you know,
• 1:21:33
  if it's got a cool spot here. 17 pointer.
• 1:21:35
  It's got a drop kind. Crazy.
• 1:21:38
  If you want to get, if you want to get to that later, or if
• 1:21:42
  you're rich, sure, go ahead and do.
• 1:21:44
  It and that's the thing too. Like it depends on what what you
• 1:21:47
  want to do right? Like.
• 1:21:49
  I could spend more money on hunting gear, but I just like.
• 1:21:51
  I don't see the needs, just the main thing is always going to be
• 1:21:56
  the key hunting time in the field and.
• 1:22:01
  Getting as best as you can while you're out there, learning every
• 1:22:04
  single time, progressing a little bit, getting a little bit
• 1:22:06
  better. That is going to make a bigger
• 1:22:08
  difference than any fancy camo you buy.
• 1:22:10
  Any fancy tent, you buy, any binocular, any bow.
• 1:22:13
  A lot of people, a lot of people are like, man, I I got to get a
• 1:22:17
  flagship bow. I'm shooting this Diamond 320.
• 1:22:20
  I'm like the Diamond 3:20. I could have smoked a lot of
• 1:22:22
  stuff with the same the same bow, you know, it's under 40
• 1:22:28
  yards. All people chase bows.
• 1:22:31
  Yeah, it's like iPhones. Me include.
• 1:22:33
  First or two in. Like iPhones is a great example.
• 1:22:38
  The iPhone see it used to be back in the day.
• 1:22:42
  The difference between phones was huge from the Samsung S.
• 1:22:46
  Five to the S7 was a huge difference, but nowadays from
• 1:22:51
  the iPhone 14 to the 15 is like all they did was make it tie.
• 1:22:56
  Other than that, it's still my money to buy a new charging
• 1:22:58
  cable. Exactly.
• 1:23:00
  So a lot of good stuff. And BDP too.
• 1:23:03
  That's a wrap. I think it was a good pod it.
• 1:23:05
  Was a great pod. Thank you.
• 1:23:11
  Get the first go to simons.com. And TuneIn?
• 1:23:15
  More pods. This guy might be on.
• 1:23:17
  Sometimes he might be on, sometimes she might be on.
• 1:23:19
  Yeah, if you're curious. I'll be on if you're curious.
• 1:23:22
  Can we should we just maybe, you know, sprinkle out some of the
• 1:23:24
  future guests? We might.
• 1:23:25
  Yeah, go for it. We're going to be looking to
• 1:23:27
  have Tova, Tova, Legend in the in the, in the, so Ted's going
• 1:23:30
  to be coming on. We're going to have Paul.
• 1:23:32
  Paul is featured in a video from Motorcycles Challenge where he
• 1:23:37
  had some very humorous lines towards my size.
• 1:23:44
  Who else would might be making an appearance?
• 1:23:46
  Whitney, get out. Here so maybe some local can I?
• 1:23:49
  Think you got to get Bruce? Bruce.
• 1:23:51
  Bruce is going to be in here. We'll have some.
• 1:23:52
  We'll have some big. Dog House.
• 1:23:54
  We'll get some other influence other YouTube influencers on
• 1:23:58
  here as well. Shout out to the Youtubers,
• 1:24:00
  we'll get some of them on. So that'll be a lot of fun, but
• 1:24:03
  appreciate these guys. Over here.
• 1:24:06
  Every time. Every.
• 1:24:07
  Time, but that's a wrap. Thank you for watching and we'll
• 1:24:10
  see you in BDP 3.