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- 0:03They told you that family is everything.
- 0:06They told you them that no matter what happens, you have to
- 0:10show up for Thanksgiving. You have to be there for
- 0:12Christmas. You have to show up on
- 0:14birthdays, text your mom, text your brother, your sister.
- 0:16You have to be there for special events and celebrations, right?
- 0:20But what they didn't tell you is that family shouldn't feel like
- 0:23a prison sentence. Family being part of a family
- 0:27shouldn't feel like you just are have to do something because
- 0:30that's the you know, that's those are the rules.
- 0:32Today we're talking about the orphan option.
- 0:35And I know y'all like orphan option.
- 0:36What the hell? The orphan option going no
- 0:39contact with the whole family tree with the whole toxic
- 0:43narcissistic family. Y'all like if you're new here,
- 0:46I'm Lee Hammock self. We're a narcissist and I'm going
- 0:48to tell you why as a narcissist, we fight so hard to keep you in
- 0:52that family circle, even when we act like we don't like you, even
- 0:56when we act like we don't want you or don't want you anywhere
- 0:59around around us or anything like that.
- 1:02That's what we're talking about today, y'all, What's going on
- 1:05Joey? What up, what up, what up
- 1:07Welcome, welcome. If you're joining on YouTube,
- 1:08make sure I hit that thumbs up button like and subscribe to the
- 1:11channel and let's keep it moving, y'all.
- 1:14We're talking about going no contact with an entire toxic
- 1:18narcissistic family dynamic. What's going on, Mama?
- 1:22But yeah, we'll hop right into it.
- 1:23Y'all. In narcissistic families, you
- 1:28have what they refer to as an assigned role, right?
- 1:32Like the roles could vary. The the scapegoat golden child,
- 1:36y'all know right here. So we can talk about the the
- 1:38scapegoat first. In a toxic family, everyone has
- 1:43a job, everyone has a purpose to serve, right?
- 1:46Because you know, toxic narcissistic family dynamics
- 1:49typically kind of operate like cults, like CULTS, like they,
- 1:54they operate like cults, like everybody has a role, everybody
- 1:57has a position, but there's somebody at the top, there's a
- 1:59hierarchy in the family, right? So everyone has a job, position,
- 2:03role, purpose in this dynamic. Like you, you might not like
- 2:10this, but you might absolutely be the problem child or the
- 2:14scapegoat or the caregiver, something like that, right?
- 2:18You, that's the role that you might play in this situation,
- 2:21right here in in this scenario, that's the role that you might
- 2:24play right here. So when you go no contact, if
- 2:29you're the scapegoat, if you're there, right there you go no
- 2:32contact. You aren't just leaving a
- 2:34person. You were pretty much like
- 2:36quitting a job. You're like you, you, you left
- 2:38without turning your two weeks notice in your role.
- 2:41We haven't had time to replace your role yet, but you're
- 2:45leaving nonetheless. So when you quit a job,
- 2:48sometimes they beg you to stay. So when you quit a job, when you
- 2:51leave this family, like the rest of the family has to figure out
- 2:56who's going to serve your purpose, who's going to who's
- 2:58going to fall into your position, who's going to take
- 3:00your place. So if they are always blaming
- 3:04you for everything, if you're the scapegoat, right, and
- 3:06they're blaming you for everything, like everything is
- 3:08your fault, they're putting everything on to you, guess what
- 3:12happens when you get out of it, when you get free, somebody else
- 3:17has to take that role. Who else is going to be in a
- 3:19position now, right? Think about it like that.
- 3:23If you leave, somebody has to take your spot.
- 3:25If you are the one that was getting the most abuse, if you
- 3:28are the one that was getting treated the worst, somebody has
- 3:31to take your spot, right? Somebody has to take your space.
- 3:37Somebody has to do that. I know people don't like
- 3:39necessarily hearing that, but somebody has to be the one to
- 3:42fill in your role because you're, it's kind of like your
- 3:45spot is open now. So somebody has to get it.
- 3:49Somebody has to get it right there.
- 3:51What's going on? So who's in there?
- 3:53Right there? Yeah.
- 3:54MO MO Duggan says the skate go roll needs to be filled to
- 3:57regulate everyone else. That is absolutely right.
- 4:00Hell yeah. Hell yeah.
- 4:02That was a good one. That was perfect right there.
- 4:04You really should. That should be the definition
- 4:06right there. In the in the in the in the
- 4:07narcissist handbook. That should be the definition
- 4:09right there. Seriously, That's powerful.
- 4:12Good one. But yeah, somebody has to fill
- 4:14that role. Just like if you were the golden
- 4:16child and you got all the praise, if you were to wake up,
- 4:20right, you get all the praise and stuff like that.
- 4:24You would have wanted to wake up first and you separate yourself
- 4:27from it. Guess what?
- 4:28Your role has to be filled too. It's not always the negative
- 4:31roles. I mean, scapegoat, Golden shout,
- 4:33they all ends up, they all end up being negative roles, right?
- 4:36They're all always have a negative connotation attached to
- 4:39them. But you see it right there how
- 4:41that works. You have to, somebody has to
- 4:43fill your spot too. Somebody else has to fill your
- 4:46role too. What's going on?
- 4:48Y'all there was going even even even that space right there.
- 4:52Yeah, if you were the the spot, right.
- 4:53Somebody clap them trees. I don't know about that within
- 4:55the family. But yeah, if you maybe if you're
- 4:58the husband or the wife, you leave.
- 4:59Yeah, perhaps. But there you go.
- 5:01Right there. That's the space you go into.
- 5:04You see what I'm saying? That's the way you got to fall
- 5:06into it right there. So you got to kind of even that
- 5:08situation right there. But there's also a thing that
- 5:11happens in narcissistic family dynamics, right?
- 5:13It's called group gas lighting. I know a lot of y'all have
- 5:19experienced gaslighting with a singular person.
- 5:22What's going on with a singular person?
- 5:25What's up? But group gaslighting when
- 5:28everybody is in on it? Damn, that dude messed your mind
- 5:32up. Damn, that would tear you to
- 5:34pieces, right? That will tear you to pieces.
- 5:38Tear you up when you were the only like.
- 5:41It will just eat you up. Yo goodness Grace, there you go.
- 5:44Whipping girl, whipping boy, whipping girl.
- 5:45Yes, group gaslighting is vicious.
- 5:50It is vicious, not nutritious. It is vicious because if the
- 5:55whole family is toxic they will agree on a lie to make you the
- 6:00villain. It's easier for them to say you
- 6:03are crazy like you single person you are crazy rather than just
- 6:09say the whole family messed up. Right?
- 6:11My family is perfect, right? My family is perfect.
- 6:17You know you the problem right here.
- 6:21You know you are the problem and that right there was suck man
- 6:27has I'm gonna type it in. You know, has anyone in the chat
- 6:31being group gaslit? Just drop it in there.
- 6:32If you've been group gaslit, y'all can drop it in the chat.
- 6:36But yeah, that's it. It ends up happening right
- 6:37there. There's so many people like
- 6:39group gaslighting is a real thing.
- 6:43Like, well, they will all absolutely just come at you and
- 6:48just try to make you the villain here.
- 6:51You know what I mean? Yeah, it just like it's trying
- 6:54to make you the villain, and that's what ends up happening.
- 6:57So you drop it in the chat. If anybody been in Group gaslit,
- 7:00just type the. I think you type in gas if you
- 7:02type in gas. Yeah, you try to type in gas.
- 7:06Just drop the little emoji right here.
- 7:07The gas emoji like that. They're all crazy as AAF yes.
- 7:15So group gas lighting is a thing though, y'all.
- 7:17But once you once, once you do escape, right, once you do or
- 7:22you thinking about leaving, the flying monkeys will come into
- 7:25play, y'all, just like the the Wizard of Oz, the flying monkeys
- 7:28are going to come into play. Like the guilt trips will
- 7:31happen. Your brother or sister, cousin,
- 7:35parent, whatever they might call you and say hey, look, hey,
- 7:40look, hey, look. Etta, Etta.
- 7:43You decided to leave the family, right?
- 7:45Think you're hot shit, huh? Guess what?
- 7:48Mom is crying. Mom misses you.
- 7:52You're not talking to her. Just call her, talk to her, have
- 7:55a conversation with her like she gave birth to you.
- 7:57Damn it. You going to do this right, huh?
- 8:02Take your hot check. They're not calling you and
- 8:06doing it out of love, right? They're doing it because the mom
- 8:09or whoever it is, the narcissist, the main narcissist
- 8:11is making their lives miserable. Since you left, since you have
- 8:14gone to remove yourself from the family dynamic, you with no
- 8:17contact, the parent, the friends, whoever it is that the
- 8:20the main narcissist, they're making everybody else life a
- 8:23living hell. They want you to come back and
- 8:25take your position. They want you to come back and
- 8:27take your seat at the abuse table.
- 8:29Like you got up and left. You didn't finish your abusive
- 8:31meal. You got up and left and didn't
- 8:33finish your plate. Come back and get it right.
- 8:36They want you to come back so the target moves off of them,
- 8:40right? The target moves off of them.
- 8:43And that's what happens. Guys like they multiple times
- 8:46flying monkeys, but not by servers.
- 8:47Absolutely. Yeah.
- 8:48They started this beer campaign, dude.
- 8:50I think that might become apparent in a second, but that's
- 8:52a part of it, man. They will put it on to you to
- 8:54make it seem like you're the aggressor.
- 8:55They seem like make it seem like they themselves have not done
- 8:58anything to you. You're just making stuff up,
- 9:01right? Again, I don't know why.
- 9:04I don't know why you decided to cut mom off.
- 9:07I don't know why you decided to do this and do that, but you
- 9:10need to come back, right? And if you have like if there's
- 9:13money on the table like you, if there's an inheritance at risk,
- 9:18and I know some people are specifically, I've talked to
- 9:20some people, they're specifically staying in
- 9:22relationships like that because of inheritance, right?
- 9:25They're just staying around the family because they don't want
- 9:27to get cut off the wheel or miss out on a certain type of
- 9:30inheritance or some type of getting, you know, you don't
- 9:32want to get left with nothing. You're right, I understand that.
- 9:35But sometimes, you know, sometimes people, I also have
- 9:37met people who've left that and chosen peace over that money.
- 9:41It's just like, you ain't about to abuse me.
- 9:43Hell no. I don't care how much money you
- 9:45got, ain't about to abuse me. I ain't got to stay around and
- 9:48be abused to get a couple dollars.
- 9:50Hell no. Also, they'll try to drag,
- 9:52they'll start drama to drag you back in.
- 9:53Yep, Mom and dad are fighting again.
- 9:57You need to take them in. You see what I'm saying?
- 9:59Yep, I left the I left the family, inheritance and all.
- 10:02No regrets. There you go.
- 10:04I don't want the will see how ironic.
- 10:07I just come across this and had to go no contact with my dad.
- 10:09Ah, that's tough. That's tough.
- 10:11Happy healing for real. But before I know a lot of
- 10:16people before you go to a contact, there's this kind of
- 10:20inherit fear. Well, appreciate that.
- 10:22Appreciate that. Raise your frequency.
- 10:24There's inherent fear of going no contact, right?
- 10:27Because you think you're going to be left alone.
- 10:29And that's where the, you know, the beginning, the beginning I
- 10:31was talking about the orphan option, right?
- 10:33You know, orphans, they don't have anybody.
- 10:34They're in foster home, in foster care, right?
- 10:36The orphan option is some people don't want to use that option as
- 10:41adults because you're by yourself.
- 10:42You don't feel like you have a community or anything like that.
- 10:45So sometimes the scariest part of leaving, like the scariest
- 10:48part of leaving a family, even a even a narcissistic family, is
- 10:51the silence, is the loneliness, you know?
- 10:54But you got to think about it. That silence is where your
- 10:57healing lives. There's peace in silence.
- 11:00There's peace in stillness. You see what I'm saying?
- 11:03Like you have to realize that being alone sometimes is a lot
- 11:06better than being by being abused by people just because
- 11:09they share blood or a last name or something like that, right?
- 11:13Yeah. Because they share blood or
- 11:15something along those lines. That's what goes on right there.
- 11:18I appreciate you. But that's what goes on.
- 11:20You see what I'm saying? That's what happens.
- 11:22Like, there's peace in the stillness and in the silence.
- 11:25I told them to keep the inheritance.
- 11:27I choose me. What are you?
- 11:30I wish that was my case. I would have been left, you
- 11:33know? But silence is serenity.
- 11:35Yeah. There's so much, yo.
- 11:36There's so much in the silence and so many.
- 11:38Some people, understandably so, don't necessarily like being
- 11:41alone. And I get that right.
- 11:43I And I get that. Yeah.
- 11:45No. Conduct is not working.
- 11:46Family. Family court.
- 11:47Yeah. If you are in family court
- 11:49battling for custody, I wouldn't suggest going no contact because
- 11:53the other parent will, especially if you have primary
- 11:55custody, they will accuse you of, they'll accuse you of either
- 11:59parental alienation or they'll accuse you of parental
- 12:02alienation or abandonment. If you're not in involved at
- 12:07all, you would no contact with them even though they have
- 12:09primary custody. They'll just accuse you of
- 12:11abandoning them. Abandonment, right?
- 12:13That happens too. So you have to be very weary of
- 12:16that going on. So you get to pick your tribe.
- 12:19You see what I'm saying? I know a lot of people when they
- 12:20leave, they don't have anybody to talk to.
- 12:22I have a support group. You know, there's some members
- 12:24of my support group in here right now.
- 12:25Now we can check out my support group at mentalillness.net or
- 12:29you can find it right here. It's on the screen right there.
- 12:31Mental illness.net. My support group is there.
- 12:33My course, my coaching, my courses, everything is at
- 12:35mentalillness.net. You can check out y'all So, but
- 12:39when you get when you do get a chance to leave a toxic
- 12:41relationship dynamic, right, you have the power power to create a
- 12:45new narrative with yourself. You know what I mean?
- 12:48That's what ends up going on right there.
- 12:50Once you leave, you get to decide who you are.
- 12:54A lot of times when you're in toxic relationship family
- 12:58dynamics, right, you, the personality you cultivate is one
- 13:02out of survival. You're just trying to survive
- 13:05like you're trying to survive the toxicity, you're trying to
- 13:07survive the abuse, which is understandable.
- 13:09I get it, you know, So when you get out of there, it's can be
- 13:12scary to have to create a new personality, to have to create,
- 13:16find new likes and dislikes or openly get to express how you
- 13:19feel about certain things. It can be scary, but it's so
- 13:21worth it. Like, you get to decide.
- 13:24You get to pick. You get to choose.
- 13:26There's no, no like, yeah, no one is there to remind you of
- 13:30who they want you to be. It's all you.
- 13:34You get to pick. You get to choose.
- 13:37You get to decide. It's all in that situation right
- 13:41there. What's going on, girl?
- 13:41How you doing? You get to decide.
- 13:45This is a part of it right here. This is truly a part of it.
- 13:49You know what I mean? When you get out of there,
- 13:52instead of surviving, you get the opportunity to thrive.
- 13:55You lose the first part of it you use, you lose the SRIV, the
- 14:00Sr. the SURV part. You keep the IV E.
- 14:05You said you put thrive in front of it, you know.
- 14:08Do you become the best? Who's it at?
- 14:11Nicole? What's going on, girl?
- 14:12The best you ever? Yes.
- 14:16It is beautiful to be free. Yeah, absolutely.
- 14:19My stupid husband won't go narc sister.
- 14:23So he tells me that way. Oh, OK.
- 14:27But that's it right there, man. I'm serious.
- 14:28That's so it's that's going on right there.
- 14:30What's going on, girl? Rebecca, what's going on?
- 14:33Thank you, my brother, for saving me.
- 14:35There you go. Appreciate it.
- 14:35Philly in the house. Philly in the house.
- 14:37Yeah. So in closing y'all, before we
- 14:40start my Q&A, when I don't think about it like this, you're not
- 14:44breaking. When you decide to go to no
- 14:47contact, you'll leave. Decide to leave the toxic family
- 14:49dynamic, you're not breaking. You're like you're not breaking
- 14:52the family. You survived it.
- 14:55If the tree is rotten, you don't stay and eat the fruit.
- 14:59You leave the forest. You get your, you, you, if
- 15:03you're a piece of the fruit from that tree, are you an apple?
- 15:06You roll your ass downhill away as far as you can and plant new
- 15:10roots, build your own tree because you don't want to be
- 15:13part of that. The the nasty, toxic rotten tree
- 15:15right there, right? Because that can mess with you.
- 15:19That really can. That would do harm and do damage
- 15:22to you. And that's what goes on right
- 15:23there with so many people like you feel like I don't want to
- 15:27break the family. You're not breaking the family.
- 15:29You aren't, you are not breaking the family.
- 15:32No, they broke. They're trying to break you.
- 15:34They want you to be a part of it.
- 15:35They want you to always fall in line and whatnot.
- 15:41But now I got time for the short Q&A.
- 15:43Y'all, what is that? What do you think of a therapist
- 15:45that plays both sides? I found out he admires my ex.
- 15:47I wouldn't see. I wouldn't.
- 15:48I wouldn't see that therapist anymore.
- 15:51I mean, therapist is supposed to be neutral, right?
- 15:55They're the therapist is supposed to be a neutral third
- 15:57party. So the kind of supposed to play
- 15:59both sides, right? There's not supposed to be right
- 16:02in the middle, but they're not supposed to like pick a side,
- 16:06so, so to speak. They're just supposed to operate
- 16:07on the truth. And if somebody is wrong, then
- 16:11they try to bring people to to understanding as opposed to
- 16:14turning everybody turning and battling one person, right?
- 16:17That's why that's just my thoughts right there.
- 16:21When you decide to go no contact, you've reached a
- 16:24milestone that in that relationship and are free.
- 16:27I broke it and my family broke it with him as well.
- 16:29Good job. And sometimes, like I said,
- 16:31that's that's one of the hardest part about going no contact
- 16:33sometimes is that some of your family, some of your own family
- 16:37won't cut the person off. Some of your own family won't
- 16:41will just keep the person around even though they've been they've
- 16:44been nasty and abusive to you. Some of your own family will
- 16:49keep them around and do all this other mess.
- 16:51Which sucks right? It absolutely sucks when you're
- 16:54trying to heal and move forward. Your own family is doing this
- 16:58stuff, your family is keeping your abuser around and what not
- 17:02and that's what ends up happening so much.
- 17:05In these situations it's better to create new traditions that
- 17:09hold on the old ones with your toxic family.
- 17:11Yep, same part about building sometimes.
- 17:13You got to build your own tree right?
- 17:16Build your own family tree. Friends can be narcissistic.
- 17:21Oh yeah, your friends can absolutely be narcissistic.
- 17:23Yeah, that that is, that is absolutely the truth right
- 17:25there. Your friends can absolutely,
- 17:27positively, 100% be narcissistic as hell.
- 17:30And sometimes there's nothing you can do with it, right?
- 17:32Because they're, they're just horrible people.
- 17:33Like you'll be dealing with this, this horrible, toxic
- 17:36person that is not doing anything, not serving anybody
- 17:39but themselves. They're out to serve themselves
- 17:41and they consistently will do that.
- 17:44I've had the same problem in family court.
- 17:46It seemed like the court decided when narcissist and I submit
- 17:49proof. Yeah, sometimes.
- 17:50Yeah, family courts sometimes would not be on your side.
- 17:53It's family courts Meet some of the most stressful situations
- 17:55that you're going to have to battle because you could.
- 17:57You can still be do it. You can do everything right.
- 18:00And the judge or whoever in there might still not listen to
- 18:03you. Like sometimes, like, yeah,
- 18:05there's, there are situations where people are out here
- 18:09literally getting abused, like to T like get literally get into
- 18:13hell, getting abused beyond measure and have kids with the
- 18:18person. And then the judge will be like,
- 18:21like, well, they didn't abuse the kids.
- 18:23So the kids can still see them even though, even though they
- 18:25might have strangled you and held a gun to your head in front
- 18:27of the children, they didn't technically abuse the kids.
- 18:30So we got to, but you got to just go with this right here.
- 18:33So sometimes they don't care, y'all?
- 18:36No loyalty. Yep.
- 18:37How do you move forward and get used to having your own life?
- 18:40There's baby steps right there. Step by step, right?
- 18:43Step by step. Making a plan.
- 18:45From day one, you have to have a plan of action.
- 18:48I know some people escape. Then what?
- 18:50It's kind of like this, looking like this, Beth, this, this,
- 18:52this. This is what popped into my head
- 18:54when you said that. Imagine escaping from prison,
- 18:57right? You've been locked up like
- 18:59you've been locked up. You've been locked up for a
- 19:01crime you didn't commit. Right?
- 19:04A crime you didn't commit. I'm trusting you, Beth.
- 19:05You didn't commit. You didn't commit this crime,
- 19:08right? But you want to get out of jail,
- 19:11So you want to break out, but you haven't.
- 19:13But as soon as you break out, you don't have a plan.
- 19:15You'll be right back in there. They'll just catch you.
- 19:17That's why you see people who break out of jail.
- 19:19They don't just break out of jail and start walking down the
- 19:20street. They're taking off through the
- 19:22woods. They got a car waiting in from
- 19:24them. Now they got a car or they
- 19:26already got a bus ticket or something waiting on them.
- 19:28Like they rarely ever just break out of jail and just just go
- 19:32walk down the street. Those people get caught very
- 19:34quick. It's the people that, you know
- 19:36what I mean? They have the plans that make it
- 19:39out to stay out. So that's why it's important to
- 19:41have a plan. I'm going to do this where I'm
- 19:44going to live, where I'm going to go, where I'm going to work.
- 19:47You know, who, who can I talk to, who's going to remain in my
- 19:50life? Those are things right there
- 19:52that are important as you move forward right there, you know,
- 19:55make a plan. I'm not saying sometimes you
- 19:58sometimes you can make a plan. They have to act quickly and
- 20:00don't have a plan, you know, but it's still day by day.
- 20:03Once you get a chance, make a plan.
- 20:06You can't. Angela did it was hard.
- 20:07There you go. This make me sad.
- 20:10Yeah, sadness. You can't escape without money.
- 20:12That's the problem. Yeah.
- 20:13Sometimes you just depends, right?
- 20:14Sometimes you go to these shelters and stuff like that and
- 20:16some people have to start over. Some people have to start over
- 20:18from from scratch and scratch from ground.
- 20:21Some people literally have to start over from Ground Zero,
- 20:24which is extremely tough for a lot of people, right?
- 20:27Ground Zero is extremely tough. I'm 54 and with no contact with
- 20:32narcissistic family is an incredible amount of growth I
- 20:35have experienced and since I moved when I started no kind of
- 20:39in June I was a scapegoat. OK good.
- 20:41Good for you getting out of there.
- 20:44I have been trying for two years to get her gone.
- 20:46Is it possible she does not have a new supply maybe or I mean
- 20:50just because if they even if they have a new supply, it
- 20:52doesn't guarantee that they will leave you alone.
- 20:54I'll say it like that. Just because they have a new
- 20:55supply doesn't necessarily guarantee that they will leave
- 20:59you be. Sometimes they'll still keep you
- 21:00around like one person. Sometimes they just like having
- 21:03more than one person around, right?
- 21:06It would not People know of abuse and help abuse Yeah,
- 21:09absolutely. That does happen sometimes and
- 21:11that's so tough to deal with. That's so tough to deal with
- 21:15right there. So so extremely tough, and I
- 21:18hate that people got to go through that, y'all.
- 21:19I really really do. I hate that so many people have
- 21:21to battle with these toxic, narcissistic people.
- 21:24Your videos are great. Appreciate it.
- 21:26So I know what kind of shirt you wearing late looks dope.
- 21:28Oh, this is my this is this is my I'm about to start.
- 21:31This is my brand right here. Y'all, this is myself love
- 21:33brand. It's you know, my, my, my logo
- 21:36says I love me. This is self love.
- 21:38Y'all can look into the shirt. It says aware, fearless.
- 21:43It's I'm, I'm aware, I'm fearless.
- 21:45I'm good, I'm unique, courageous, capable.
- 21:49It's got all kind of good euphemisms and you know, things
- 21:51like that. The positive phrases, I'm about
- 21:53to put them back on. Y'all, I have a bunch of men at
- 21:55the house. I got to start selling again.
- 22:01What's going on girl I'm in the office today Oh yeah, you're
- 22:03back back in the office. I'm actually you know I'm in my
- 22:06office now tight yeah this is myself lovely.
- 22:10I I got AI got a fitness brand I'm about to come out with this
- 22:12as well called you know it's a a physical fitness mental health
- 22:16combination brand. This is myself love brand, which
- 22:19I love. You know what I mean?
- 22:20My physical, my other stuff about to come out too.
- 22:25My siblings are on the same page with narc now.
- 22:28They used to see things, but all of a sudden they slowly stopped
- 22:31caring and now aiding dysfunction.
- 22:32Yeah, sometimes they see it as more peaceful to choose the
- 22:35option of just staying. Everything's staying the same.
- 22:38Sometimes change is more difficult than those right
- 22:41there. You see what I'm saying?
- 22:42Change is scarier than just staying things staying the same.
- 22:47So. So that's why some people don't
- 22:49leave. They just like, well, I at least
- 22:51I know what I'm going to get from here, right?
- 22:53At least I know I'm getting from here and whatnot and so on.
- 23:00Is that true to someone who's an avoided is indeed a narcissist?
- 23:03No, not necessarily. I did I I did a video, a video
- 23:05very recently on avoidance and narcissist like very recently on
- 23:09my YouTube channel, like very recently.
- 23:13Yeah, I do got to hop off here. I got a one-on-one at a Zoom.
- 23:16I got to do right at 4:00 and it's 359 right now and I think
- 23:20they just hopped on. Yep, I got to do I got to e-mail
- 23:23for that. So I got to hop off here y'all,
- 23:28like I said, all my one on ones. Everything is available at
- 23:30mentalillness.net. Check it out right here.
- 23:33Mental illness.net. I'll put on the screen right
- 23:36now, but I do have to have all like they just hopped in the
- 23:39zoom room and I don't want to be late.
- 23:41So thank y'all for tuning in. If you haven't already, make
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- 23:49Y'all appreciate y'all being here like seriously y'all thank
- 23:53you so much. I'm super grateful for every
- 23:55single one of y'all super empowered I see.
- 23:58Check out my check out my support group, all the other
- 24:00good stuff. Y'all be safe, take care of
- 24:02yourselves and we will chat later.
- 24:03Y'all peace, even your blood help abuses.