Latest / Ecosistemas / Ecosistema de la Institucionalidad Argentina - Invitado: Dr. Miguel Julio Rodriguez Villafañe
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- 0:00Hello from ecosystems. We send a fraternal greeting to all radio environment staff,
- 0:07the National Federation of Health Workers and its Secretary, Carlos Adamo, for allowing
- 0:12them to be part of this great family that is a radio ecosystem environment under
- 0:18the prism of polyhedron. How today' s world works, increasingly complex,
- 0:36more uncertain, changing, seemingly chaotic, a world of all against all or
- 0:41all for all. Not one thing or the other. The world operates in
- 0:47a delicate balance of interacting ecosystems. I propose that you think together about how
- 0:56these ecosystems work. A small pocket manual, perhaps just a bunch of thoughts
- 1:00and reflections that allow us to accommodate, order, orient, understand how we
- 1:07work in these hyper- informed and communicated societies, where it is hard for
- 1:14us to discover their senses and motives every day. I invite you to listen
- 1:19and discover together these ecosystems in which we are often inserted without wanting to be
- 1:26part of them and which, however, are part of our daily struggles and
- 1:30disappointments and under the prism of polyhedron, because every ecosystem is composed of different
- 1:38faces or sides, with its vertices and particularities. Unity in diversity, where
- 1:45the whole is superior to the parties, the agreement superior to the conflict,
- 1:49reality is imposed on the idea and time space. This will allow us to
- 1:57build a sustainable world in an environment full of humanity, in harmony with the
- 2:04unique nature of our existence and the generations to come welcome. There are ecosystems
- 2:13under the prism of polyhedrons. There is a phrase that has become fashionable and
- 3:07that has to mean that inflation would fall like a piano. I can'
- 3:15t understand what you mean, but well, everyone repeats it not like inflation
- 3:19is going to fall like a piano. But that phrase helped me to open
- 3:23the game in this ecosystem today. I think that the Argentine institutionality is sounding
- 3:30like an old wardrobe, like something that creaks there that the drawers that have
- 3:38been rotted from some wood that can in some way no longer contain the reality
- 3:47that we have to live. It' s crunching Argentine institutionality. Those organizations
- 3:59that we have given ourselves in the field of democracy through our founders, our
- 4:03fathers, founders who thought of an institutionality, a national constitution, the division
- 4:11of powers, the idea of the Republic. Well, maybe we' re
- 4:15talking about questions so theoretical that they can stay away from people, but at
- 4:19the same time I think they' re very present and very current in the
- 4:26day to day and in order to think and reflect together on the institutionality of
- 4:32the Argentine Republic, I had to get a good carpenter, if we'
- 4:36re talking about a wardrobe that' s cracking and I think I found it.
- 4:40I went to Cordoba, a province that, because it is Mediterranean,
- 4:45is a kind of root of our institutionality. There is the oldest university of
- 4:53these pampas, of these places of the South and it is a great pleasure
- 4:59to be able to count on the testimony of this constitutionalist thinker, former federal
- 5:05judge, welcome, Doctor Miguel Julio Rodríguez Villafañe. There are ecosystems. Well,
- 5:12Luis, it' s either a pleasure or really a pleasure to be
- 5:15with you, to reflect on how we get back. Well, you'
- 5:18ve introduced our identity. One can tell you we' re in a moment
- 5:26of institutional immunodeficiency, this in the area of instruction you did. Maybe I
- 5:34' d get the tax. In the example, the piano is sometimes not
- 5:36the best, because you saw the old jokes like a piano fell down from
- 5:41the ground. The second, if you fall the plane after it doesn'
- 5:46t serve any more as if you can hardly make a plane fall is glare,
- 5:50it is true, but also but you would have to see what Ropero
- 5:54is and what we want Ropero for today you dress in output now this minimalist
- 5:59seality, no longer need to roper beyond the chance and metaphors, first I
- 6:03want us to place ourselves in the logical reality of the moment. I always
- 6:08say that we, as long as we' ve been kids, taught us
- 6:12how to play the tatati in one plane. But this thymoverno is played in
- 6:16three planes. It makes it possible for you to accept yourself in a plane,
- 6:21in the background, in the third plane or between crusaders. And this
- 6:25means logical, metaphorical goal, that we live a reality. We listen to
- 6:30these verbs that are not of simultaneous overlap and cross and this gives us a
- 6:41new phenomenon where everything is conditioned a little bit with everything. First, we
- 6:48are living a moment to go from the most to the least, very difficult
- 6:56at the level of the world and the history of humanity. Notice that we
- 6:59know that we are already as modernist, but we still don' t know
- 7:02that we are, We are post- commodist, but we don' t
- 7:04know what we are. Yes, yes, the age at which we live
- 7:06has not yet been defined. We are talking not of age in terms of
- 7:12the age one has, but of the ages, not of old, modern
- 7:15contemporary. All that kind of thing is a very special era that has some
- 7:21particularities that the condition, some of which are important to make friction and that
- 7:28affect us, is change as content of seriousness. That is, there is
- 7:35already change, not some exceptionality, but a content, because it sends it
- 7:40to technology. Yes, yes, and it is change in turn with a
- 7:44very high speed. That makes a lot of things grow old without obsolescence.
- 7:53Many things become more obsolent without aging. In terms of technology it' s
- 8:00key and or computer that it' s worth I don' t know how
- 8:03many thousands of dollars and a year you can' t sell even as you
- 8:05totally step on paper. And that generates a very confused dynamic, but that
- 8:11we cannot fail to see that they also generate dynamics for joys. And this
- 8:18has to do with starting to decode in the country. At this moment,
- 8:24we, from institutionality, are playing on a court to, but many sectors
- 8:33between the right mile and play on court B and these mean that they do
- 8:39not necessarily accept the rule of court A. I mean, you have the
- 8:45sensations many times that Milley' s B- court sectors make a goal and
- 8:50say it' s worth three because they' re playing basketball and it'
- 8:54s made outside the area. Just like basketball. You saw that since lemos
- 8:58a hundred is worth three and it does it outside the area, that you
- 9:01came to self- golve just the same and you say it' s not
- 9:01worth it. We are playing football and in football goals are not made with
- 9:05hand. So you' re going to be dislocated as a color would say,
- 9:09like a horse on the roof, because you change the rules of the
- 9:16game every five minutes and it breaks the logic of the argument because you,
- 9:22in football, can' t argue that a goal isn' t made with
- 9:26your hand and it' s basketball. All goals are made with hands.
- 9:28So here we begin to deal with new realities that sometimes we find it hard
- 9:35to assume is that they are not what we expected in other generations of the
- 9:41way out, for example, the truth. This implies that there is a
- 9:45truth. This means it' s broken. The social contract. Yeah,
- 9:50it' s broken. But more than social contact is that there are new
- 9:54rules that are worrying. For example, as I tell you the truth since
- 10:01the information became a commodity, yes, the truth you don' t turn
- 10:07on. So that makes it possible for you to lie with impunity and that
- 10:13doesn' t affect you because, for example, the first element that we
- 10:18can see right now regarding the truth we' re living it. In fact
- 10:22very concrete, that is, my Emiley accused. I allegedly want to think
- 10:30that a candidate for President, new President, when you say that Paticio Burri
- 10:33was a spinal warrior who was pumping my part I did it thinking about the
- 10:39gravity of what you' re saying and at three months she appoints the Minister
- 10:45of Security to handle the security force that are casually key to counteracting who puts
- 10:52bomb in clear infant caarin looks looked that way. It is a flagrant contradiction,
- 10:58not a case, but the concern is that this does not generate action
- 11:05at this time. El Rosario was forced and the Senator for Rosario, the
- 11:11Senator, who is of other signs, said that because she was already connected
- 11:15to narco- trafficking and now they are concerned about Rosario' s situation side
- 11:20by side, and I' m going to say how it can be and
- 11:22how far that accusation came, what sense it makes with a judiciary that probably
- 11:28isn' t up to the juncture and where everyone is worth without any concrete
- 11:33proof of anything. Then comes the insult, the treatment, note that,
- 11:41without falling to Gabefa' s logic, it was a thousand that those payas
- 11:46that don Pepito said the two voices with much difference and treatment. But a
- 11:52president who deals with rat nests, rat rat to all legislators, who says
- 11:58he' s going to piss on the governed that directly the one who doesn
- 12:01' t think like him is a traitor. And just because the Vice President
- 12:05before yesterday or yesterday better said, she called a session you were sent by
- 12:09the Rules of Procedure and that it is obligation to do so. He treats
- 12:13her as traitors and sends her a troll battalion to tell her everything. It
- 12:18means that we have lost you essential barriers in the dynamic they are entitled.
- 12:24That' s also serious, because it looks like those hunger games where he
- 12:28just survives doing anything. I remember. There were even other video games that
- 12:33I was worried was the doom or Pong was called, where deep down,
- 12:39I didn' t care to support myself with you, but in the last
- 12:43instance, I had to kill you in order to win. I then this
- 12:48one knows. I know he plays is very serious in an institutional dynamic where
- 12:54the first aspect has been blurred. Political parties do not exist as such.
- 13:03The country' s most important political party, justicialista, has a president like
- 13:07Alberto Fernández, who has not resigned. He tells her that he will resign
- 13:09from five points his term next year. At a time when a political party
- 13:13as such would have to be on the axis of the discussion and the proposal
- 13:20and speak in general other parties as radical, communist, Socialist, etc,
- 13:26which now don' t even have a sense of singularity, because everyone undermines
- 13:31themselves, pampers themselves in alliances where everything big is worth to get more votes
- 13:37and the kids not to lose their personage. But, in short, good
- 13:41to know is of every alliance whether of right to be leftist. So cento,
- 13:43what it proposes And the worst of all is that representative democracy is in
- 13:48crisis. See that this is a serious thing. What is called delegative democracy
- 13:56is in crisis, but why you are. Not because in itself it is
- 14:01bad the representatives that society should have, not everyone is ruling, although we
- 14:07have to go to a more participatory democracy. The problems that representatives no longer
- 14:13arise from those represented are marketing products. That' s why he doesn'
- 14:20t understand that guy like Durán Barba is more important in a campaign than the
- 14:24candidates themselves to propose what they' re going to do. In fact,
- 14:28it is dedicated to reselling the packaging more than the contents. Then one realizes
- 14:33that until the presidential discussions that I will change the law, I would make
- 14:37a law in those of the presidential candidates they will be given the twenty minutes
- 14:41half hour to make their proposals and nothing more, because, otherwise, it
- 14:45is a championship of the Chicana, where ultimately, the citizen the only thing
- 14:50that sees one of those fights and I remember Cardajean, that was arranged without
- 14:56winning. But ultimately, you take us to the bottom. He knew who
- 15:01the real winner was and what he was proposing or how he was proposing it.
- 15:05Even today, we do not even know what the Government' s project
- 15:11is, not in general terms, but in concrete terms. Why should you
- 15:13say that the project gives of this was a change Who doesn' t want
- 15:18a change of this. I want to keep talking. We are in the
- 15:22ecosystem of the Argentine institutionality with Dr Miguel Julio Rodríguez Villafañe, a Cordoban from
- 15:28Zepa, who was Federal judge in Cordoba, and in order to accompany this
- 15:35moment I would like to listen to Cordobese music and in this case, the
- 15:41first has to do with a changuito that I like very much, called José
- 15:46Luis Aguirre, who lives behind the Sierra and that ended he built this beautiful
- 15:52song called Córdoba Morena, Córdova more Africa in the heart that sounds race of
- 16:26the conqueror' s come- fucking sabre, living history and pain of that
- 16:37mixture I come. I Córdoba Morena, where they have the sorrows Varena afrosambo
- 16:52eats Chingon healthy vigo from Mother India, who mixed nail that refus of that
- 17:00mixture I come. And in the background, the fenced neighborhoods, the marked
- 17:06clips, the cap, the countries, the music, the stick, the
- 17:11bearish houses, but they patrolled. What happens Córdoba Mosna, Chango Rodríguez in
- 17:19the Carlos mens, Jim of sorrows. I' ll be right back.
- 17:32That' s where I' m coming from. We are with Dr Miguel
- 17:44Julio Rodrígue Villafañez and after listening to the chahuanco to José Luis Aguirre making Córdoba
- 17:52brunette because it caught my attention very much. Well, you too mark it
- 17:56as córdobas, not walking around. By high grace, I could see in
- 18:03some museum that manifested that most of the Cordobas were black complexion. Let'
- 18:11s say that they were specifically descendants of slaves of everything, although with some
- 18:21motor b we say that we are not morotos, but grey pearl we have
- 18:29to give them capra note that Cordoba and it was not remembered you see has
- 18:33interesting particularities. The black one you know what in Cordoba the black race assimilated
- 18:37very well, leaving beside the Cordoba and the unalable with slaves that were not
- 18:42so many. In fact, this is the black race that we are standing
- 18:48next to the indigenous one, who also has to be invited out. He
- 18:52didn' t stay in Cordoba. For a historical anecdote you when the evolution
- 18:55of May occurs, is constituted the battalion of Browns of Moreno, all libertarian
- 19:00clauo who joined the Argentine army poor. That battle was the cannon meat,
- 19:07because the infantry that imagined you the first carried me there when I was poor.
- 19:11The truth is, that battalion that was in many heroic acts with Belgrano
- 19:21going to Paraguay and then the Gron campaign to the north, Salta Cruz and
- 19:26the Dome, then in the army of San Martín, alone Andes. He
- 19:30went to Peru and returned and on the 20th of June one thousand eight hundred
- 19:33twenty was dissolved in Cordoba that battalion what remained and or live on the other
- 19:41side of the ravine is a neighborhood and now it is called Espacio Hueme,
- 19:45but before the neighborhood Brojal remember the height, runs that pass coming from Buenos
- 19:49Aires, passing to Tucumán. I have to dance a jack in the broth
- 19:52' s bath. The bo that' s on the other side of the
- 19:56glen. The whole battalion of important brown browns settled down and was thus measured
- 20:03to Córdoba. I call you Cordoba with pride. It' s a crucible,
- 20:11let' s say genetics. No, and everything' s good.
- 20:15It was also a crucible of paradox, because, just as the May Revolution
- 20:19had its counterrevolution in Cordoba. Of course that' s why they lived and
- 20:26shot everyone but the bishop was there, but it was lined up and all
- 20:30those things were clear. Ama later was the Córdoba on the way out,
- 20:37that it was an economic power and that the interests of the port did not
- 20:41like. That' s why they did the duans. This forged that it
- 20:44was more linked with logic. That is why he opposed the May Revolutions,
- 20:48because the major solution was the thing that was good. There were also the
- 20:52English who, in the background, was the third English invasion that needed the
- 20:56port without another conditioning of Córdoba was closely linked to Alto Perú and had very
- 21:04important industries that negotiated with Alto Perú and did not depend on the port of
- 21:10Buenos Aires. Well, but that more I remember the whole class form the
- 21:15eighteen was very valuable things like true cordobazo, just as he assumed conservative positions
- 21:26of the Revolution of fifty- five and so many other things. I believe
- 21:30that precisely because of this particular position of Córdoba, perhaps also the governments of
- 21:38Mauricio Macri and the present government owe to Córdoba a substantial number of their votes.
- 21:48Yes, in any case, this has to do with the fact that
- 21:52there have been several phenomena that fundamentally condition Córdoba Note that this has a lot
- 21:59to do with the reforms of the law of that diffusion. You will remember
- 22:02that the Law of audiovisual communication service, in which it had the current possibility
- 22:07intensely yes, yes, of which you participated in the Court as cural friends
- 22:12does not But before that, I would represent to the most humble the system
- 22:18that a mutualist radio that was called Carlos Mujica enlarged the years was called and
- 22:25they were called the Sanchada with a very interesting symbolism. I could be nice
- 22:30to the brunch that you could say a group of honcho yes to cha.
- 22:33Of course, it wouldn' t be much more meaningful to be lynched as
- 22:37the place. Food is put in common so that we all eat that true
- 22:41sense understanding because communication is also a food. In the army they also call
- 22:48it the ranch, not the ranch of coxacta the widths. They are called
- 22:53the ranchadas not by a set of gaucho homes, but by putting meals in
- 22:59as good of Since that I began to challenge the title of candicenter of the
- 23:03law of tradition of the time of the military process that crowned with the declaration
- 23:08of the unconstitutional type of twenty- five, that the non- profit entity
- 23:14did not allow to have broadcasting licenses. And then we worked on one of
- 23:17the most legitimate laws that you' ve had in the history of the country,
- 23:21which was the Act on audiovisual communication service, legitimate from the democratic,
- 23:26that was concentrated by society, approved by the Chamber of Deputies, tested by
- 23:30the House of Senators, promulgated by the executive branch and validated by the Supreme
- 23:34Court Justice of the Nation. However, Macri attacked it in its essence seriously,
- 23:42especially by putting limits on what had to put limits on the amount of
- 23:48license and Córdoba practically the most important newspaper, the channel used more important and
- 23:55one of the most important areas of the Clarín group so sectors that undoubtedly condition
- 24:02much public opinion and in which both the national, provincial and municipal government have
- 24:07invested a lot of money. And that without blaming the Cordobese it is true
- 24:17that public opinion notice to myself the director of the newspaper La bor Interior,
- 24:23daily to which I have not only written because I am also a journalist,
- 24:30who has obtained with my articles in neb Interior three prizes to Pope, that
- 24:34is to say it gives the entity. He is a journalist of the Argentine
- 24:38Federation, the bar association and I the director of Diablo Diario already look I
- 24:45have is that options of claris that you do not appear here anymore for the
- 24:49defense that he has made from that communication of visuari because that is the reality
- 24:56here as much to me as it is to me, that is with what
- 25:00I say to you in what does to me everything owes personal terms, but
- 25:06it is true that there is real censorship. What happens is that we also
- 25:07have to know that there are new censorships now. Before the elevators that the
- 25:11state actually put it, now they put it to you by certain groups of
- 25:17economics. Then you can get a person who imposes it on you and from
- 25:21there it is a political phenomenon imposed by the media. He is hemonite and
- 25:26interested in certain characters who, on the one hand, at first seemed like
- 25:32this because they brought the interest of the audience, for the sands grew or
- 25:37for the things that he did and then ended up being nothing less the candidates
- 25:42and then President of the Republic. No, I don' t. Without
- 25:45a doubt, there is a phenomenon that confronts us all as a society,
- 25:52which has to do with public debate through social networks and, in some way,
- 25:57the volume that certain characters acquire through the support of some corporations towards those
- 26:03ideas. I am very interested in what you have already said about the violence
- 26:17that is being exercised from these antisocial networks, as Horacio Verbisky says. That
- 26:25is because today I am listening to what is happening in the Senate of the
- 26:33Nation many speeches, which I would say that more than half of the speeches
- 26:37have some kind of support or connection with what is said through this system of
- 26:42social communication, social network, Twitter or Facebook or tiktok, and politics has
- 26:48gone there too, and institutions have gone there. That' s why I
- 26:59think there' s a court to mean when I talk to you about the
- 27:03court two six of games that are new to logic. First on court two.
- 27:10First come to those under forty years old remember that what is less than
- 27:18forty years old have been born in this democracy have not lived those who have
- 27:22a little more other perspectives, citizens or country. It is a detail that
- 27:27is no less at the time of how they have been conformed. Second,
- 27:33let' s say a few moments. The Internet is very valuable, but
- 27:37it is also very dangerous if it is not complemented with other things, because
- 27:45on the Internet, so the kingdom the tiktok, that is short, easy,
- 27:49fun, sometimes has a genius and some kktores, but complex things want
- 27:56you time, they require meditation or notice. You yourself in this program that
- 28:00you have restricted me indicate where we are going to take a while to be
- 28:06frictional things. This reaches us three minutes of tiktok and then the first problems
- 28:11that has been generated a culture of the fast, easy and fun. Then
- 28:18in that neither does a teacher define you things quickly that are not easy.
- 28:23For example, look and every day well, because it affects you to PBA
- 28:26and this one comes a pico por do used by eighteen and I have projected
- 28:30in the year two thousand ten. It takes so much time because if you
- 28:34almost look and sun says I tebí I can shorten you that eighty percent of
- 28:37people don' t even have to if you presee already I see that it
- 28:41means one thing. You know he' s an internal bobby producer and something
- 28:45else to do with that index, but they' re holding him with a
- 28:48machine gun and poetry. Or pablo como sa este equipo. He' s
- 28:52throwing fake statistics at you. He tells you we want to go back a
- 28:55hundred years ago. I' m saying a hundred years ago about you.
- 28:57I didn' t really have a lot of stuff here, when it says
- 29:03we want to go back to the beginning of the last century. At the
- 29:06beginning of the last century there was a privileged class, cattle and vaccine in
- 29:14general, which went to Europe with the cow on the boat, but in
- 29:17the class of worker it had no sustainability. There were no democracies to the
- 29:22cinema began to work with the peña salt. The twelve did not vote for
- 29:25women there was no right of any kind. I mean, I' m
- 29:29telling you, I didn' t even think I' d make it back
- 29:30to the beginning of the last century. And also, on the other hand,
- 29:33with everything to his car and he says but if this is going to
- 29:36be solved here in twenty years, it' s going to be alemanent forty
- 29:38- five. Ireland looks at this forty- five, having two green sacks
- 29:42like the Irish and hoping to look for some goblins out there. But the
- 29:47droplet' s gonna go away for what it' s for. I would
- 29:48have said that, that is, all roads. When we don' t
- 29:52break, but I want to go to Buenos Aires and I don' t
- 29:53know what I' m doing on my way to Rome. It says more
- 29:55or less the same, but since you have it as a detailer, it
- 29:59doesn' t leave you, I thought it said good and besides, angry
- 30:02face, how will you discuss this. Listen to me if here the worst
- 30:06mike the country has social justice. On the other hand, the guy comes
- 30:10and swears to the Constitution and, however, the construction of social justice has
- 30:15foreseen him in several clauses as objective and says that the pope' s greatest
- 30:22false social justices and then goes and gives him a kiss and gets excited.
- 30:25You saw. All of this is handled by a mooring logic without the ability
- 30:32to criticize, because it had been noticed occasions that the media would drop that
- 30:37notice, that there is a detail that no means and said nothing that he
- 30:41took the oath. But he' s the only candidate in history who didn
- 30:47' t say he gave it. Today the homeland demands it I do not
- 30:49know if it will be, because it did not mean the phrase or because
- 30:53it knows that God neither the Homeland has any lawyer to forward the demand.
- 30:56But beyond chance, he didn' t say it, he didn' t
- 31:00say it, and no one fell for it because, on the other hand,
- 31:07Look says a joint about how the swearing shovels are working. Note that
- 31:12the oath, in the final analysis, is a commitment to assume what is
- 31:18said to be assumed and put to God for testimony and he who, in
- 31:22the last instance, says that a little Catholic, a little Jewish, gets
- 31:26excited the wall of the gragamentos almost now with the Pope. But, however,
- 31:33that night, if he had been with the Pope on an Italian program,
- 31:37he said that say the states is a criminous society and that the only
- 31:45way to destroy them, to enter to dynamite them. He' s conscious.
- 31:49He is swearing to enter an institutional organization that is made from the State
- 31:57to dynamite him. Deep down, the same unconscious. But he puts God
- 32:02through, because he swears and puts God as a witness, that is,
- 32:08he believes, but he puts him as witnesses that he will not do what
- 32:12he swears to what is added in a context of a disbelief society, because
- 32:19it is true there are many things that society says that you will have to
- 32:23see it well and do not believe that you do not care. Even you
- 32:28notice that I am working to form a group of young people first to wear
- 32:35walls, to generate sources with the new generation, because it is true that
- 32:40as we see there are serious problems in them. It is also true that
- 32:46we are returning to the stage where, for example, certain social rules are
- 32:50not given. We came from a society where there was an important middle class.
- 32:59That middle class, in fact, was underpinned by a fundamental pillar,
- 33:05which is free and quality public education. That' s no less than that.
- 33:14We started with education in general terms, but it was in the period
- 33:22of Domingo Perón that university grativity was established as a path, a goal,
- 33:29and this has been very important. None of us have been born into a
- 33:32golden cradle fed with royal jelly, but we have been able to take steps.
- 33:37And then I have the pride and say I come from a home of
- 33:40two teachers. So many people who come from good workers' homes the universities,
- 33:45that Cristina was created, that there is the first generation of professionals from
- 33:52those sectors that are given was an important social permeability and that allowed to give
- 34:00concrete aspirations sustainability. Today many of those who use that are, for example,
- 34:07a marriage of merit and a teacher are not in a position to guarantee
- 34:12it to their children the ten percent guaranteed by their working fathers. Of course
- 34:17this one, that creates a distaste and the young people I understand notice.
- 34:23My parents were two teachers and, however, they could have their home with
- 34:30a bank credit. We had our car, a citron. Then see that
- 34:34they didn' t win the bike the others' pick. But, but,
- 34:38but, uh, my parents had five kids and they gave him this
- 34:45college education. I think that' s what I' m saying to you
- 34:50right now, a teacher and a doctor who are taking their noses out over
- 34:57the water and arriving at home or peujon and becoming an honorary professor, not
- 35:01as in their case at the University of Villa María or federal jue. Let
- 35:05us not say that the son of two teachers has achieved a federal magistracy in
- 35:15Cordoba, Miguel Luis, how important also and I felt some social responsibility.
- 35:19See that I was a federal jukebox. I was thirty- two years old.
- 35:22Wow and I left, but why didn' t I get kicked out.
- 35:27I stated because I said, I went to perform a function and I
- 35:32assumed in July of one thousand nine hundred and eighty- four and left at
- 35:37the beginning of the year nine hundred and ninety but why, because I voted
- 35:44for the constitutionality of pardons to the genocidal and was the only judge who did
- 35:47it. And when I saw that the justice validated that I said this justice,
- 35:53which I said to dossa, with the weak, that in surprise,
- 35:54with the powerful, with what moral authority to a person still with or on
- 36:00will respond the prey if geno AIDS so free. That is why the total
- 36:06renunciation of this process of contradiction of voting for a President who hates the State
- 36:12to destroy it implies social suicide. That' s right. Now the contra
- 36:19is expensive to say that you' re one of the most worried that I
- 36:22have right now. What' s the counter- face, because notice that
- 36:25there are difficult things here, because you don' t have to underestimate my
- 36:30laws. He' s a madman, but it' s true that he
- 36:34' s a madman who' s now bringing the American army to have a
- 36:40presence in parana look. How terms encapsulate you. You saw that now they
- 36:44don' t tell you silo at all. They don' t call you
- 36:47hydromeias, of course hydropia. This so that you don' t have consciousness
- 36:51or you' re getting sovereignty over a central aspect of your independence. They
- 36:58leave you without finishing the Magdalena Canal, which would give us autonomy, because
- 37:02it is the contradiction by a lido and says that we have to save,
- 37:06because we have to export and scare that I start to make a port so
- 37:09that all our merchandise, etcetera, leaves through an Argentine port. We make
- 37:12all the fossils to go to Montevideo. That' s where it' s
- 37:15stretched out. We also have a no- smuggling partnership or see that I
- 37:20set an example for you. Luis, three years ago not to go is
- 37:22not far like a thousand king I would have told you that comes nothing less
- 37:30than militos external relations of England, that goes to the Malvinas and says that
- 37:35the Malvinas are English, that a ship of those cruises that included to stop
- 37:43in the Malvinas led one hundred eighty- seven Argentines who were going to visit
- 37:49their relatives, our soldiers in the cemetery of Darwin, and carried changes of
- 37:52crosses. They didn' t let them down and the only thing that occurred
- 37:57to her about telling our chancellor is she' s got it. You walked
- 38:00over here and you didn' t come to visit me and here what you
- 38:04' re seeing is that not only is that not being resigned and nothing happened.
- 38:09I have not seen demonstrations, except the province of you fire, which
- 38:14I could not say otherwise, if it is pierce of fire to Madina.
- 38:19It is its own territory pro tersitorio, but let us continue because the subject
- 38:25of the English and this I live it publicly, eye does not end with
- 38:30the Malvinas. Eye leaving hanging side island of the South Atlantic that already looks
- 38:37like mos. Ask any student That' s what we know from the DJ
- 38:39with gossip now what the hangs of islands are. I read asul also has
- 38:44no ideas, but the serious note that now is the terra has just subsidized
- 38:51and there are important credits to not only exploit the richness of sea, around
- 38:57marina and pestrónalo, to make a specialized port so that it is the key
- 39:06place for all Antarctic expeditions and until now it is making user or Punta Arena
- 39:12Usuay in Argentina, Punta Arena in Chile. But here. What no one
- 39:15says is that the claims about the Falklands of England overlap over our antomatic circle.
- 39:25Clearly, in other words, it is no longer only the Falkland Islands
- 39:31that are involved in all this, but that triangulum that we see the maps
- 39:39that are not even put on before. Now some put it not even appears
- 39:45as our own, that even more, the little territorial consciousness that we have
- 39:52makes you realize that if we put the compass to make a circle between the
- 39:58one that has and the Antarctic, our center of the country would be usuaria.
- 40:02Of course now, our President went to the user by claiming a psychological
- 40:07question and not bad, but he does not assert Argentine rights over Antarctica,
- 40:13as far as you intend to claim England. And this is not even less
- 40:21geostrategically, at this moment and I have to say things that are sometimes hard,
- 40:28it is key because it is thought that in some important world war,
- 40:32today they nullify channel like Panama Canal, cancel it with two bombs, then
- 40:37the steps that take from one side to the other are under discussion. That
- 40:45is why there is a bid in the Arctic for the Arctic freeze, which
- 40:51is not a continent, but an isolated mass, because there is no,
- 40:53there are no territories below, for example, there is no marine land.
- 40:57He passed it down and notice that there is this series of Bosge television,
- 41:02for example, the base proposes it and wants to have dirty China in Greenland
- 41:09through that passage of the north And here with this, NATO in England is
- 41:15having the hegemony of the passage of the south, making head in very well
- 41:24mounted Malvin ports and claiming the antartida for the English. Now, in the
- 41:28meantime, they are making us take care of the farts about Milley, if
- 41:35they fight with the Bride and if they have palatial encounters, and these issues
- 41:40that are central geopolitics, not even so- called opinion and high- bullet
- 41:46journalism are being discussed. No, Dr Rodríguez Villafaña is with us in the
- 41:51ecosystem of Argentine institutionality. I' m asking you for a country break.
- 41:57Sure, he likes tango. Sure, yeah, of course, and the
- 42:00Mona Jimenez too good. Look what you did. Oscar the jada with notice
- 42:05sand, running through your body the water slipped. I know on your back,
- 42:42the wind, pinking your hair, your skin on my skin, setting
- 42:57fire. My mouth became friends with your mouth, your arm squeezing me I
- 43:17feel the time going by hugging your waist, wishing to love you like I
- 43:32don' t love any kiss- abese I fell in love with you with
- 43:51your bone to kiss I fell in love with her kiss. The night has
- 44:04risen and playing to love we consecrate kiss is bossemore from you kiss that to
- 44:25love you I learned from me sub are the night dreaded and entangled until it
- 44:45came out my own fingers, walking on your chest kissing you to the centor
- 45:13of your power po your labin on my neck, desiccating my madness, wishing
- 45:30you, loving you as not to see nilura. Kiss to kiss. I
- 45:37fell in love with you kiss to kiss, to love you I learned kiss
- 45:53kiss. The night ended well- rounded until Besodo came out that we are
- 46:22with the last of the blocks, with Dr Miguel Julio Rodríguez Villafañe, after
- 46:28listening to this creation of the Mona Jiménez in the time of tango, something
- 46:32you wanted me. I' m gonna call you Look, I' m
- 46:37gonna call you no more. I have no choice. You know why,
- 46:38why I did it to her in the cute, non- poor jime.
- 46:43It hasn' t been very graceful, let' s say aesthetic beauty.
- 46:46Standard then, always when I was kids you wanted to hook up with tarsan.
- 46:52So I' m going to quote you, I' m going to
- 46:57be the same as the monkey Quín to the monkey to life, or I
- 47:01want to crime the monkey jimene and say what tarza. I' m just
- 47:04like the monkey How we get out of this mess we' re institutionally in.
- 47:09The answer must be political, because I see the Court looking the other
- 47:14way. I have heard statements by the President of the Court saying this is
- 47:19a political issue and letting it be resolved in the legislature. What do you
- 47:28understand attentively that the Senate is debating that neu' s is at stake today?
- 47:35How we get out of this at risk. The subject does not have
- 47:37easy formulas, but it is true that sometimes necessity has the face of heretic.
- 47:42There' s no such thing as the team the doctor always told you
- 47:45didn' t smoke, try to drink less alcohol. So, in a
- 47:47life he discerns nothing that gives him my impact and takes things seriously. We
- 47:52are at a time of immunology, institutional deficiency, and we are about to
- 47:58have a heart attack. The impact of hindsight is very serious, because look
- 48:01at the subject. We are at the point of dissolution, which is not
- 48:06small. What does dissolution mean? Now there' s a save. Yeah,
- 48:09who can be the governor of Tucum and said don' t look at
- 48:13me Mitra guarantees me in lemons and in it is sugar cane, I do
- 48:15business anything. In his time rabbit as governor of me then well, there
- 48:21things separated the country. Well, moral kick, Patagonia. Patagonia also stated
- 48:29that it did not unite and tried to form a single company in order to
- 48:37defend its natural resources. There is a regionalization approach, which already the Reform
- 48:43of ninety- four. The route outlined, but it stayed there. But
- 48:46one thing is regionalization within a whole, and another is separate regionalization. I
- 48:54a human body in a save who may not be clear, let' s
- 49:00say from here we begin to each one do what he thinks. Well,
- 49:02that' s very hunchback, because you look at it. What' s
- 49:07happening right now is that you' re negotiating governor for gobots to approve something
- 49:13unconstitutional that what happened in the Senate I tell you joel is not holy,
- 49:16there' s no devotion, but that what you did and thanking you for
- 49:21because she' s on the verge of a political trial. For non-
- 49:23compliance with basic regulations, including the law of a UND. But I'
- 49:28m going further just made of it that the President is with a capyrichose boy.
- 49:31If I don' t know what I want, they' re more
- 49:35or less like the fat guy than for this football or I make the goals.
- 49:37I' ll take the ball, you understand me, but this isn
- 49:39' t the case. With it taxing the DNU 70. And there'
- 49:45s one thing I want to insist on. It is null, absolute and
- 49:50insanable knot, and this means that the TNU was placed within an article ninety
- 49:57- nine. The Constitution was made third to moriger, to take away possibilities
- 50:05from the President, not to expand in and within those possibilities said the President
- 50:09dictates it works and that they belong to the legislative power. That and it
- 50:15says three concepts that are lapidary, it will be a null act of absolute
- 50:22nullity is insanable. In case that arousal is insanable, that means it can
- 50:24' t even be born. It only puts in some exceptional situations, as,
- 50:31for example, could not be re- united Congress, things that have
- 50:35been so evident that a week he convened it with the extraordinary sections. Yes,
- 50:38and you can' t turn on issues of a criminal and tax nature.
- 50:43The thing that makes to regulate on the code to duanegro that has high
- 50:46a team of tax and criminal type. So technically that' s null and
- 50:52void in unia absorbry. What does this exquisite thing matter that I say is
- 50:55that by being null and void directly this which says that while fixed you have
- 51:00acquired rights. It cannot be applied sooner or later. You have to come
- 51:07down to justice. He was wrong about that when giving way to the well
- 51:12- done labor planter, he merely suspended it in labor matters. What is
- 51:16null is null everything, not a part, because his bu operates with a
- 51:21combo. You on the combo can' t tell me to take out the
- 51:25fried potato and put me another soda. No, the comba is a soda.
- 51:29Pope Prite and this blood she likes well. If you don' t
- 51:31go to another Woy combo, you can' t split it anyway. So,
- 51:36if it' s null, it' s null integrally. So here
- 51:40' s what' s caressing Miley, who knows she' s falling off
- 51:44is buying time. That' s why he hit the villa. Or he
- 51:46wants to buy time to extort money from the governors to get them not to
- 51:52be rejected, but with other taxing things that if he succeeds in extorting the
- 51:57governors and being tried in directly sennaring deputies, he would be in a good
- 52:05mood because, according to the dynamics, the day of grape growing was a
- 52:08Chamber of the Tot with the aggravating circumstance that other constitutional rules would be violated
- 52:14from there, for example, the one that the Chamber of Origin of the
- 52:17House of Deputies says on tax matters. And there, for example, the
- 52:19law of industrial promotion that they have is being eliminated, say, raised positive,
- 52:27etcetera. And that' s why it' s fundamental that you'
- 52:30re clear that so you can' t rule with extortions to say, it
- 52:35' s going to be a pact. But the pact and already sets the
- 52:37guidelines, which is the Washington Accord, and which says that governors have a
- 52:42bad will not to want to negotiate that as if they were leading the country
- 52:47into the abysses. It was. I wish we could spend some time with
- 52:54the Court. No, because I say it' s three powers and arbiter
- 53:00power. The referee is the Court and the Court is not. No,
- 53:05no, he doesn' t even look at the bar. But the problem
- 53:08is the court. This was already a request, political judgment proved to be
- 53:14inept, incompetent and moral. He' s a criminal. Therefore, we
- 53:20cannot wait for this Court but that inaction, because azoel chord, knows that
- 53:24it owes it its survival. There is the government of Macri, of Patricia
- 53:30Burst' s Law and, moreover, let' s not fool ourselves eighty
- 53:36percent of the lawyer of the companies that have put together the law as neu
- 53:40are clients of the study of josen cran This i e at best the cases
- 53:46will dilate it. See that I was going to win the sheets by now.
- 53:49He made a point in December. They said they weren' t going
- 53:52to treat him. January. It' s March and they haven' t
- 53:53tried it. This court is unpredictable, has no moral authority. The woman
- 54:00' s missing. That' s why I' m telling you, we
- 54:05' re in a very big institutional crisis that, if I don' t
- 54:08and I don' t really remember, it' s impossible to keep playing.
- 54:08As I tell you, in a court where one makes the goths,
- 54:12he is worth three others to make the goals and they are worthless because they
- 54:15are with the hand and besides, with a superficiality, they speak and give
- 54:22a tracending content to a pact to carry forward. In the pact, police
- 54:24power cannot be left out, so that one of the details they don'
- 54:28t mess with, neither with finances are banks, nor with justice, which
- 54:34they don' t mess with. And I' ll tell you if there
- 54:38' s any cacti in justice. We have a monarchical justice right now and
- 54:43why I say it. This isn' t a pamphlet. There is a
- 54:46concrete entry effect. No more, the places where the highest references are located
- 54:52are palaces of justice and their highest references are courts. Those names of the
- 55:00time probe and look and there are concepts that were in concrete. In the
- 55:05royal era. There were judges, but the judges represented the king and how
- 55:09he represented the king, whom you admit justices were subjects. And that was
- 55:17serious, because it represented the certain entry of six were not pairs and as
- 55:22you do not stop you see it, because they have the justice, that
- 55:29we are impressively behind. Justice and the only power that has thirty- one
- 55:34days in the fortnight in July vacation. What is the reason for me being
- 55:39a government, in the first medal of taking the feis of July that you
- 55:44work in which job you got a job with thirty- one days of vacation
- 55:49paid and fifteen days paid in July without having done anything. It' s
- 55:53still an unacceptable thing. And yet, it is accepted that they do not
- 55:58pay or put the profit on, do not want to go to seventy-
- 56:00five years. This is serious, extremely serious, and I must have a
- 56:06firm society in dual. Beyond the rescue I make, there are many forces
- 56:09and judges who really break the mistress in the country. There are five zero
- 56:14judges of all instances and areas, but the truth is that the head is
- 56:19fished and here the head is these three ministers, four ministers of the Courts,
- 56:22who give no guarantee of anything, except some integrals who know that they
- 56:29have guaranteed that that kind of thing is not going to happen. Doctor,
- 56:31we' re coming to the end. I want to thank you very much.
- 56:37Now, yes, this time that you have given us and these reflections
- 56:44that we have made. I am left with the phrase that we are on
- 56:46the verge of a heart attack of homeland, that concept so firm and so
- 56:59enlightening And at the same time the lover does not and I do not know
- 57:06that pact that they propose for May right there in their province, if it
- 57:14will be a Band- Aid for these at least I want to make a
- 57:15caveat in that. I hope, Córdoba, we Cordobas serve for a great
- 57:19national meeting, but I am worried that I chose it because here was born
- 57:24super rocona notice, because if I weigh with the one that directs it to
- 57:28Milla and that I do not know how many guus from stratosphere of the sky
- 57:32of the animals of gra yes or no. It' s too dangerous to
- 57:36tell me. I wish he had chosen Córdoba as an area of reflection,
- 57:38with his university, with his men, with his women, at the service
- 57:44of a country of all. I do not think it is the key and
- 57:47without pride notice that I do not participate in the criterion of this Cordoba that
- 57:52wants to present itself as an island. If we are within a country that
- 57:55we are of all and for all, I hope not the Pact of Córdoba,
- 58:00it is because we make an important space, if it is given,
- 58:05it is not the product of these squeezes that force to come to Córdoba having
- 58:08approved the d neu or calls it the and Omninus. I think we can
- 58:15move forward, if not otherwise. He doesn' t do Bini anymore to
- 58:19honor Cona because he' s córdobas like a dog. I don' t
- 58:22hope that' s not the case. I give you a big hug,
- 58:24Miguel, thank you very much for this very kind time. This is to
- 58:30hope, hopefully, that it will be repeated and that we can continue to
- 58:37reflect together on this institutional framework that Regentina needs for the future, perhaps with
- 58:42a constitutional reform, perhaps rethinking some institutions that have already passed from time to
- 58:47time and always with our gaze, as you have done as author of the
- 58:52book on freedom of expression and journalism of the twenty- first century, looking
- 58:57at communication and the framing that communication has in the field of politics. No
- 59:00yes, notice that this is so important that in Reformation ninety- four it
- 59:04was obviated of such as these. Note that according to the fifty- three
- 59:07constructions, Congress does not work on December 1st to March 1st. Three months
- 59:12had his season c because if I' m going to see juju dispute and
- 59:15had a great folder to go to Google and or I took to come back
- 59:17today, what sense it makes to put. The legislature is paralysed for three
- 59:21months for those things you have to touch them and other things. Totally good
- 59:25to us. Dr. Miguel Julio Rodríguez Villafañe in the ecosystem of the Argentine
- 59:30Institutionality, a huge embrace from Buenos Aires to Cordoba, in the Sequiel Amarillo
- 59:36technical operation, as always the production of melina rebo in my name, Luis
- 59:38de Giovannino. He had a good time. Thank you so much for joining
- 59:43us and we found ourselves again good to s and are to help. S
- 1:00:44kn what gentle mansan sancho and put