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Sharri | 25 September · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News This is Sharry.
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Speaker 2: Good Evening tonight to Albanzi's open defiance of the US
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Speaker 2: President in his United Nations speech. When it comes to Gaza,
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Speaker 2: climate and the UN itself, Matt Canavan and Aaron Patrick
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Speaker 2: will discuss. Shortly, Former UK Prime Minister Liz Truss lays
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Speaker 2: into Albanesi, saying he and Keirths Stamer are stuck in
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Speaker 2: the Biden era. This is She weighs a return to politics,
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Speaker 2: My exclusive interview coming up, and yet another terror attack
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Speaker 2: on Israel, yet the world's attention is on the crime
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Speaker 2: of Abba music blasting on Greta's Gaza flotilla. Joe Bernie
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Speaker 2: would join me live, but first. When Anthony Alberzi rose
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Speaker 2: to address the United Nations overnight, the gulf between his
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Speaker 2: worldview and President Trump's could not art have been more stark.
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Speaker 2: On issue after issue, Albinizi positioned himself in direct opposition
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Speaker 2: to Australia's closest and most vital strategic and security Ally,
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Speaker 2: his remarks laid bare the warped priorities of his government
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Speaker 2: in embarrassing display when set against the clarity and authority
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Speaker 2: of the United States. Even speaking about the United Nations itself.
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Speaker 2: Albanezi drifted into immature and uncritical idealism, while President Trump
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Speaker 2: cut through the pretense the institution is broken, compromised, and ineffectual.
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Speaker 2: Here was Donald Trump making some of these points.
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Speaker 3: Likewise, in a period of just seven months, I have
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Speaker 3: ended seven unendable wars. It's too bad that I had
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Speaker 3: to do these things instead of the United Nations doing them,
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Speaker 3: and sadly, in all cases, the United Nations did not
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Speaker 3: even try to help in any of them. I ended
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Speaker 3: seven wars, dealt with the leaders of each and every
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Speaker 3: one of these countries, and never even received a phone
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Speaker 3: call from the United Nations offering to help in finalizing
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Speaker 3: the deal.
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Speaker 2: In open defiance of the US President, Albanizi went out
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Speaker 2: of his way to praise the UN in the most
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Speaker 2: glowing terms. It was his first ever address to the
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Speaker 2: United Nations, and he approached it with childlike naivety. He
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Speaker 2: spoke with reverence about its noble purpose, its shared mission,
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Speaker 2: and enduring ideals. Never mind that dictators preside over human
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Speaker 2: rights councils yet lecture free nations. Never mind that the
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Speaker 2: UN has stood idle in the face of ten and
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Speaker 2: has done nothing to secure the release of hostages. There
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Speaker 2: stood idealistic albow, blind to reality and captured by an illusion.
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Speaker 4: The United Nations is much more than an arena for
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Speaker 4: the great powers to veto each other's ambitions. This is
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Speaker 4: a platform for middle powers and small nations to voice
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Speaker 4: and achieve our aspirations.
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Speaker 2: On the topic of climate change, Trump and alban Easy
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Speaker 2: were worlds apart. Trump said climate change was the greatest
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Speaker 2: conjob ever perpetrated on the world, and he spoke about
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Speaker 2: inaccurate predictions on climate at the UN in.
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Speaker 3: Nineteen eighty two, the executive director of the United Nations
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Speaker 3: Environmental Program predicted that by the year two thousand, climate
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Speaker 3: change would cause a global catastrophe. He said that it
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Speaker 3: will be irreversible, as any nuclear holocaust would be. This
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Speaker 3: is what they said at the United Nations. What happened
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Speaker 3: here we are Another unofficial stated in nineteen eighty nine
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Speaker 3: that within a decade, entire nations could be wiped off
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Speaker 3: the map by global warming not.
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Speaker 2: Happening, and the president also had a warning for the
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Speaker 2: likes of Australia, if you.
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Speaker 3: Don't get away from this green scam, your country is
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Speaker 3: going to fail.
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Speaker 2: And Trump withdrew from the Paris Agreement in twenty twenty.
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Speaker 2: But Albanesi's position is the polar opposite. He wants to
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Speaker 2: be world leading in emissions reduction no matter the cost,
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Speaker 2: and that is what Chris Bowen has said, at any cost,
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Speaker 2: and Albinizi, in his speech reiterated his Climate.
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Speaker 4: Mania Australia is acting to meet the environmental challenge of
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Speaker 4: climb change while working to seize and share the economic
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Speaker 4: opportunities of renewable energy. We will meet our twenty thirty
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Speaker 4: target of forty three percent emissions reduction on two thousand
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Speaker 4: and five levels, and last week we set our target
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Speaker 4: for two thousand and thirty five, cutting emissions by sixty
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Speaker 4: two to seventy percent. We are honoring our commitment to
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Speaker 4: the Paris Agreement and its goal of keeping global temperatures
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Speaker 4: below dangerous levels.
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Speaker 2: In an exclusive interview with me tonight, former UK Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister Liz trus comes out against Albanesi's position.
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Speaker 5: I think things like Paris and our dad, I just
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Speaker 5: don't think it's credible to carry on when the United
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Speaker 5: States are following it. Countries like China and India are
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Speaker 5: busy building cul fire power stations and using oil and.
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Speaker 2: Gary Now Trump's greatest concerns are migration and the green
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Speaker 2: energy obsession, as he calls it. Well, Albanesi has run
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Speaker 2: a high immigration agenda as Prime Minister, and his transitioning
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Speaker 2: Australia to renewables at a fast and unsustainable pace. So
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Speaker 2: on virtually every subject Albanesi and Trump stood opposed. And
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Speaker 2: as for the speech itself, well, Albanese's delivery was flat
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Speaker 2: and lifeless. He's a terrible orator, out of his depth.
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Speaker 2: To stand before the United Nations with the world's attention
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Speaker 2: and squander the moment with poor delivery of a dull
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Speaker 2: speech is embarrassing. The only topic where Albanese spoke with
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Speaker 2: any enthusiasm or even expression was when he turned to
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Speaker 2: his lifelong fixation, the plight of the Palestine.
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Speaker 6: Now here's how he started this section.
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Speaker 4: The principles on which the United Nations was founded still
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Speaker 4: hold life and wait and meeting and hope for the
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Speaker 4: people who need the most. And nowhere is that task
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Speaker 4: more urgent than the Middle East.
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Speaker 2: You can hear the sudden passion in his voice, and
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Speaker 2: it's revealing of his true priorities.
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Speaker 4: This week, Australia recognized the state of Palestine because to
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Speaker 4: quote from the charter that forms the very foundations of
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Speaker 4: this institution and reflects the very best of its idealism.
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Speaker 4: We are determined quote to save succeeding generations from the
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Speaker 4: scourge of war.
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Speaker 2: So passion for Palestinian recognition, but just a passing reference
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Speaker 2: to the forgotten and starved hostages in unbearable conditions deep underground. Well,
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Speaker 2: how different were his remarks from Trump's moral clarity, because
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Speaker 2: here's what the US President said about Palestinian recognition.
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Speaker 3: Now, as if to encourage continued conflict, some of this
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Speaker 3: body seeking to unilaterally recognize a Palestinian state. The rewards
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Speaker 3: would be too great for her mass terrorists for their atrocities.
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Speaker 3: This would be a reward for these horrible atrocities.
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Speaker 2: And yes, it is a reward for the terrorism of
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Speaker 2: October seven. Albin Easy seems to forget that an Australian
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Speaker 2: was murdered on October seven, Galit Carbone at Kibbutz Berry.
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Speaker 2: Her brother Danny is a friend of mine and he's
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Speaker 2: extremely critical of how Albin Easy has approached this issue.
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Speaker 2: But for Trump, the hostages are the single most important factor.
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Speaker 2: There can be no cease fire until the hostage is
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Speaker 2: a home. Trump knows that, and the war cannot end
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Speaker 2: until her Muss is defeated.
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Speaker 3: Those who want piece should be united with one message,
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Speaker 3: release the hostages now. Just release the hostages now, okay.
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Speaker 2: And this is the fraudulence of Albanezy's position. He pays
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Speaker 2: lip service to the idea that her Musk can have
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Speaker 2: no future role in Gaza, but he doesn't make it
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Speaker 2: clear how her Musk, how the terrorists will be removed
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Speaker 2: if Israel doesn't do it, if Israel withdraws. This is
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Speaker 2: something I spoke with Paul Kelly about last night.
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Speaker 7: He says this time, he says that a mass will
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Speaker 7: be removed, that a mass will be disarmed and will
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Speaker 7: have no future political role in Gaza. He says that
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Speaker 7: this will lead to a cease fire. He says this
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Speaker 7: will lead to the release of the hostages. How none
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Speaker 7: of this has explained. There is no credible pathway offered
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Speaker 7: by the Australian government in terms of sorting out how
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Speaker 7: these objectives are to be realized. This is an expression
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Speaker 7: of hope. And essentially what we see here is I
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Speaker 7: think we see politicians doing what they've wanted to do
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Speaker 7: for a long period of time. They've wanted to recognize
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Speaker 7: a Palestinian state.
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Speaker 6: And this is right.
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Speaker 2: Albanezi formed his views on Israel and the Palestinian Territories
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Speaker 2: when he was a university and by the time he
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Speaker 2: was in federal politics in Canberra, he was a full
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Speaker 2: blown activist, yelling into the megaphone at rallies outside the
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Speaker 2: American Embassy in Sydney.
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Speaker 5: Israel.
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Speaker 3: Oh well.
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Speaker 6: Projects as.
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Speaker 2: And Albanese's parliamentary speeches on this topic, of which I
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Speaker 2: have read all of them from the early two thousands
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Speaker 2: until twenty seventeen, off full of inaccuracies. In nineteen ninety eight,
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Speaker 2: Albanzi went to the Palestinian territories and Gaza, Ramala and Gaza,
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Speaker 2: meeting secretly with the late Palestinian President Yasser Arafat. You're
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Speaker 2: looking at that photo now. It was a meeting he
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Speaker 2: never disclosed. We didn't even know about this meeting until
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Speaker 2: a former Palestinian ambassador Ali Kazakh, who took Albanesi to
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Speaker 2: meet Arafat, published the photograph in the wake of October seven,
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Speaker 2: and Albanizi did not meet the Israeli Prime minister at
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Speaker 2: the time. It was Benjaminette and Yahoo or the Israeli President.
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Speaker 2: His trip was sponsored by the Palestine Liberation Organization and
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Speaker 2: it was all expenses paid, including flights and accommodation. The
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Speaker 2: next year he set up the Australian Parliamentary Friends of
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Speaker 2: Palestine group, and Albanesi has never been back to Israel.
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Speaker 2: He formed his views as a young activist and then
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Speaker 2: never returned, never expanded or even corrected his knowledge or
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Speaker 2: interpretation of events. So speaking about Palestinian recognition at the
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Speaker 2: United Nations this week is a lifelong dream for the
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Speaker 2: radical left activist we now have as our prime minister. Now,
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Speaker 2: one of the few decent remarks Albanese did make in
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Speaker 2: his UNA address was about Iranian interference in Australia, and
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Speaker 2: there was a single quick pass mention of anti Semitism.
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Speaker 4: Just last month, Australian security agencies confirmed that the Iranian
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Speaker 4: regime orchestrated the firebombing of a synagogue in Melbourne and
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Speaker 4: a Jewish restaurant in Sydney, criminal acts of cowardice aimed
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Speaker 4: at spreading fear. And here at the United Nations we
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Speaker 4: repeat to the world there is no place for any Semetrism.
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Speaker 2: Now, of course, the President of the United States has
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Speaker 2: more important things to do than sit and watch Albanese
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Speaker 2: speak at the UN. Although he knows Albanese's type, and
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Speaker 2: Albanese was in the room at the United Nations when
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Speaker 2: Trump spoke.
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Speaker 6: You can see him in the audience here.
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Speaker 2: Yep, Albanese was forced to listen to the most powerful
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Speaker 2: man in the world explain why he and those like
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Speaker 2: him are wrong on Palestinian recognition, renewable obsession and high immigration.
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Speaker 6: But Albanese is addressed to.
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Speaker 2: The UN undersquad just how deeply his agenda and values
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Speaker 2: diverge from Trump's. ALBINIZI is trying not to event Donald Trump.
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Speaker 2: He desperately wants to meet him on October twenty. He
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Speaker 2: doesn't want another canceled meeting or rebuffed phone call. He
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Speaker 2: wants more than a selfie after cornering Trump at a
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Speaker 2: large event. And this is not because he holds Trump
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Speaker 2: in high regard we know he doesn't, or because he
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Speaker 2: remotely agrees with him, but because it's utterly humiliating that
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Speaker 2: Australia's Prime Minister has been snubbed, dismissed and given the
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Speaker 2: cold shoulder by our most critical ally, who happens to
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Speaker 2: be the leader of the Free world.
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Speaker 6: All right, let's bring it now.
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Speaker 2: National Senator Matt Canavan and chief writer at The Knightly
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Speaker 2: Aaron Patrick.
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Speaker 6: Welcome to you both. Matt.
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Speaker 2: I mean you would have heard Albanese's speech, or at least.
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Speaker 6: Parts of it.
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Speaker 2: Have you ever been so embarrassed by an Australian prime
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Speaker 2: minister on the world stage.
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Speaker 1: Well, look, I think it is an embarrassment that our
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Speaker 1: prime minister is so obsessed with the issues that he
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Speaker 1: can't control while our country goes to the dog. We've
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Speaker 1: had our living standards dropped by ten years, We've got
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Speaker 1: crime out of control in our streets, we have an
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Speaker 1: uncontrolled migration program, we have young people who can't afford
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Speaker 1: a home. Things are just not working like they used to.
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Speaker 1: And the big priorities of the Albanese government to solve
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Speaker 1: Middle East peace and change the temperature of the globe.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the bloke that couldn't cut our power bills
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Speaker 1: by two hundred and seventy five dollars thinks he's going
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Speaker 1: to solve a century long dispute about boundaries in the
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Speaker 1: borders in the Middle East and solve climate change. I mean,
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Speaker 1: what planet does this guy live in? I mean, I
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Speaker 1: think he should have really traveled to Mars rather than
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Speaker 1: New York because that seems to be where his head
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Speaker 1: is at the moment. So I mean, really, he's gone
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Speaker 1: to his head the election victory, and as your editorial said,
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Speaker 1: he's now just following his pet projects from these university
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Speaker 1: days rather than focus on the practical issues that are
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Speaker 1: facing Australians.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, if only we could send him to Mars.
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Speaker 2: Aaron, You've written an article in The Nightly on how
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Speaker 2: the Albanese government has recognized a Palestinian state and yet
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Speaker 2: it tells Australians not to go there because of terrorism
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Speaker 2: and kidnappings.
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Speaker 8: Yeah.
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Speaker 9: Well, look this week that a part of OIG Affairs
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Speaker 9: and Trade put out a travel notice saying don't go
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Speaker 9: there because it's really unsafe.
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Speaker 8: It's really unhealthy, particularly if you're gay.
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Speaker 9: If sleeping with the person of the same sex is
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Speaker 9: a serious crime they call treason, or working with the enemy,
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Speaker 9: which is cooperating with Israel is punishable by death. That's
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Speaker 9: in cases where Shari law is enforced, and another cases
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Speaker 9: just isn't enforced. So while Australian government is recognizing the
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Speaker 9: state of Israel, the Istralian government is telling people the
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Speaker 9: state of recognizing state of Palestine. We're telling people State
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Speaker 9: of Palestine is not a safe place to live in
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Speaker 9: or visit.
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Speaker 6: I know, the hypocrisy.
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Speaker 2: Just before we move on from this topic, I mean,
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Speaker 2: we've also had this whole debarcle where the Secret Service
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Speaker 2: is now officially investigating whether the President and First Lady
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Speaker 2: were deliberately sabotaged at the UN. I mean, the escalator issue,
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Speaker 2: the teley prompter didn't work, and sound issues as well.
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Speaker 2: Trumps described this as three very sinister events, I mean,
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Speaker 2: Matt and it does look like this is too much
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Speaker 2: of a coincidence for the escalator to stop working while
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Speaker 2: he's on it. But this would be very petty if
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Speaker 2: this was a deliberate attey bureaucrats of the Yuan to
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Speaker 2: target Trump.
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Speaker 1: Well, look, it is an amazing set of coincidences if
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Speaker 1: that's what it proves to be for all of those
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Speaker 1: things to go wrong. Look, you can understand the president's
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Speaker 1: anxiety here, given he has faced two threats on his
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Speaker 1: life in the past year. Obviously, something like being stopped
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Speaker 1: on the escalator is somewhat of a security breach, So
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Speaker 1: you can understand why he wants to get to the
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Speaker 1: bottom of it. I don't know about cutting Donald Trump's
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Speaker 1: tele prompter off, though, I'm not sure if that's the
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Speaker 1: smartest idea. Always find him someone who speaks better ad
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Speaker 1: lib and he does off a script. So and he
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Speaker 1: certainly he didn't hold back to the United Nations the
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Speaker 1: other day, so if that was an intentional actor, I
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Speaker 1: think it might have backfired on them.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he would have had a printed out version
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Speaker 2: of his speech, of course. Are and the President has
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Speaker 2: also unveiled a new Presidential Walk of Fame at the
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Speaker 2: White House, and this has caused a big controversy because
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Speaker 2: they've replaced Joe Biden's image with a picture of that
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Speaker 2: auto pen that Biden was criticized for using. I mean, Aaron,
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Speaker 2: this is a bit unkind, isn't it.
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Speaker 9: It's pretty mean, Shari, you know, I look, yes, it's petty.
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Speaker 9: It's in line with how the Trump administration fight politics.
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Speaker 9: On the other hand, though, it's a little bit troubling
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Speaker 9: that this mechanical device was used to sign potentially really
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Speaker 9: important documents, including pardons. So I think there's still a
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Speaker 9: lot we don't know about the Biden White House and
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Speaker 9: how it was run during his period. Of serious cognitive
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Speaker 9: decline and whether the people around him took control of
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Speaker 9: the US government and made decisions that constitutionally was not
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Speaker 9: theirs to make. And perhaps one day we'll get to
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Speaker 9: the bottom of that.
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Speaker 2: And there have been so many many books already, and
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Speaker 2: yet there's a lot of detail we still don't know
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Speaker 2: on that point, and just exactly what decisions he was
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Speaker 2: across it and what he wasn't now. I know we've
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Speaker 2: been speaking about this a lot this week, but Andrew
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Speaker 2: Hasty is arguing for policy change on many areas immigration
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Speaker 2: and manufacturing, but he's been criticized for it. He does
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Speaker 2: insist though that it isn't isn't a leadership play.
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Speaker 5: Have a look.
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Speaker 10: Look, I support Susan. Anyone who's speculating otherwise is being mischievous.
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Speaker 10: My main concern is that the center right is fragmenting.
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Speaker 10: We've seen the rise in the One Nation vote and
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Speaker 10: other micro parties, and having us fragmented on the right
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Speaker 10: is very strategically advantageous for labor and so honestmply saying
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Speaker 10: what people out on the street are looking for in
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Speaker 10: their political leadership.
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Speaker 6: I mean, Matt, there's two issues here.
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Speaker 2: There's the leadership, but also the Liberals need to be
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Speaker 2: speaking about policy far more than they are. What do
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Speaker 2: you think, Matt and do you think Hasty would make
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Speaker 2: a good leader?
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Speaker 1: Well, so I think we should welcome contributions to the
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Speaker 1: policy debate. I've sat through many lectures about how we
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Speaker 1: need to go and attract young people, and certainly Andrew's
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Speaker 1: contributions to the policy debate on social media this past
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Speaker 1: week have had an anonymous reaction among young people. And
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Speaker 1: one of the reasons we should perhaps not be too
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Speaker 1: shy right now in pushing whatever particular things we think
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Speaker 1: are best for our country is to see what that
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Speaker 1: reaction is, to test it if you like, and see, well,
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Speaker 1: is that something people want us to fight for? And
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Speaker 1: clearly the issues Andrew has been talking about, wanting to
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Speaker 1: bring back manufacturing to the country, not wanting to continue
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Speaker 1: to impose more and more need zero handicaps on ourselves
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Speaker 1: and the rest of the world is not migration as
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Speaker 1: well that he's raised in the last day or so.
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Speaker 1: All of those things clearly resonating with his own people.
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Speaker 1: So rather than criticize Andrew as some seem to want
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Speaker 1: to do, maybe we should applaud him for having the
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Speaker 1: guts to beak his mind and even more importantly, saying
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Speaker 1: something that people like. Because if we want to win again,
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Speaker 1: we've actually got to get behind ideas that people like.
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Speaker 1: And So I don't think it should be some purity
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Speaker 1: test here, or we shouldn't segment ourselves into their shadow
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Speaker 1: minister or silos. We should encourage people like Andrew. And
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Speaker 1: you asked me, could he be leader? Well, I think
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Speaker 1: he is already a small l leader of the Liberal
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Speaker 1: and National parties. We should encourage him to do what
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Speaker 1: he's doing.
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Speaker 6: Because leader, what do you mean by that small Well,
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Speaker 6: he's not.
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Speaker 1: He's not the leader, of course, but he's a leader
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Speaker 1: in terms of policy Development's a leader in terms of ideas.
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Speaker 1: I've seen him leader in the party room and contributions.
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Speaker 1: Even I remember in his first few months he made
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Speaker 1: an enormous impact on a particularly contentious policy of that
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Speaker 1: I can't disclose because I was in the party room.
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Speaker 1: But he's always shown those leadership qualities from day one.
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Speaker 1: That's not surprising given his background in leadership in our
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Speaker 1: defense forces. So look, he already plays a very significant
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Speaker 1: role in our team. As I say, we should encourage
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Speaker 1: good performers like Andrew to get out there and perform.
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Speaker 1: That's the only way we're going to win.
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Speaker 11: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Well, no question, there's a vacuum at the moment, and
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Speaker 2: the Liberals and you as well, not you personally, Matt,
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Speaker 2: but the Nats as well. The coalition needs to be
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Speaker 2: coming out with strong policies because this is the worst
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Speaker 2: government and there's no competition at the moment orangers. Before
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Speaker 2: you go, I want to ask you about the changes
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Speaker 2: at nine today. Now, Catherine West was only in the
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Speaker 2: position of chair for just around eighteen months, so quite
23:44
Speaker 2: a shock announcement that she will be going replaced by
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Speaker 2: former News Corp and ABC executive Peter Tanner. It was
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Speaker 2: a troubled period for Catherine West. We put pressure on
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Speaker 2: her over several issues, including that hush money payment related
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Speaker 2: with t Nick mackenzie aarn.
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Speaker 8: What has happened here, Well, look, it seems that the
24:11
Speaker 8: major shareholders have decided they wanted to change at the
24:15
Speaker 8: top of nine and that they've concluded that Catherine West
24:20
Speaker 8: was not the right person to remain as chairman into
24:24
Speaker 8: the future, and so they have chosen Peter Tonna, who
24:28
Speaker 8: was a who's had an amazing career in media not
24:31
Speaker 8: only was he seeing executive at news copies, he said
24:33
Speaker 8: he was also deputy chairman of the ABC, and I
24:37
Speaker 8: think when he missed out on becoming chairman to Kim Williams,
24:40
Speaker 8: he left the ABC, which made him available to the
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Speaker 8: nine board. And this raises the question of what's the
24:47
Speaker 8: future of nine and who will control it in the future.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just very quickly your article tonight suggests
24:54
Speaker 2: that perhaps Bruce god and the shareholder could have a
24:58
Speaker 2: more active role. Although so I do understand he is
25:02
Speaker 2: quite elderly.
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Speaker 8: He's ninety six, but worth twenty eight point eight percent
25:07
Speaker 8: of the shares. It's a bit hard to see how
25:09
Speaker 8: he and his people around him won't have a big
25:13
Speaker 8: influence on nine into the future. And it's also hard
25:16
Speaker 8: to conclude that they didn't, that they weren't part of
25:20
Speaker 8: the change and chairman.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, all right, Aaron Patrick, Matt Canavan. Great to
25:24
Speaker 2: see you as always, Thank you so much. Now let's
25:28
Speaker 2: turn to the war in Ukraine. And by the way,
25:30
Speaker 2: the interview with Liz Traus is coming up now. President
25:33
Speaker 2: Trump and President Zelenski met on Tuesday, and afterwards Trump
25:39
Speaker 2: said that he thinks Ukraine with the support of the
25:42
Speaker 2: European Union, is in a position to fight and win
25:47
Speaker 2: all of Ukraine back in its original form.
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Speaker 6: Now, this was a.
25:50
Speaker 2: Pretty remarkable backflip, seeing as Trump was recently insisting that
25:54
Speaker 2: both sides would need to make territory concessions and that
25:58
Speaker 2: Ukraine would need to give up some to Russia in negotiations.
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Speaker 2: We're joining me now, is Ukraine's ambassador to Australia, Vassal Marishchenko. Vassal,
26:06
Speaker 2: so wonderful to see you again. Now, this is a
26:10
Speaker 2: very big change in Trump's position.
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Speaker 6: What do you think triggered it?
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Speaker 12: We welcome President Trump's confidence in Ukraine's defense of its sovereignty,
26:23
Speaker 12: as well as his recognition of Ukraine's morale and the
26:27
Speaker 12: face in a just cause which translates into battlefield. But
26:31
Speaker 12: we cannot win this war without the support security support
26:35
Speaker 12: of our allies and partners in the form of ammunition,
26:39
Speaker 12: of weapons and direct funding, as well as new capabilities.
26:43
Speaker 12: And definitely we will work together with the US and
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Speaker 12: the European Union and European partners in making sure that
26:51
Speaker 12: we can force Russia into peace.
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Speaker 6: Now.
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Speaker 2: Trump also said in his address at the UN that
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Speaker 2: he had recently just last week, I think he said,
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Speaker 2: discovered that some NATO countries are still buying Russian oil,
27:05
Speaker 2: and he said they were in effect funding the war
27:07
Speaker 2: they claim to be trying to end. Can you give
27:11
Speaker 2: us more information about this, which countries are doing this.
27:16
Speaker 6: Well?
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Speaker 12: Apparently Russia's revenue, major revenue comes from the sale of
27:20
Speaker 12: oil and gas, over forty percent of that, and many
27:24
Speaker 12: countries about it. And of course, in terms of the
27:27
Speaker 12: European countries most likely here referred to Slovakia and Hungary,
27:31
Speaker 12: but I think there are some other EU countries which
27:33
Speaker 12: will also continue buying Russian oil, and EU has made
27:37
Speaker 12: it clear they want to actually get rid of it.
27:40
Speaker 12: It tastes some time, but we hope that they will
27:42
Speaker 12: phase out Russian oil and gas entirely and they can
27:47
Speaker 12: fight alternative sources of energy, not to fund Russia's war
27:51
Speaker 12: in Ukraine.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just such a big shift when you
27:55
Speaker 2: think about that aggressive meeting with Trump and jd Vance
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Speaker 2: and Zelenski at the over off US earlier this year.
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Speaker 2: You know, now Trump and Zelenski seem to be on
28:05
Speaker 2: the same page putting pressure on Prutin.
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Speaker 6: What do you think the next steps will be?
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Speaker 12: We have to be cautiously optimistic. Certainly we welcome such
28:15
Speaker 12: confidence and such great meetings that President Zelanski had with
28:20
Speaker 12: President Trump. Certainly, what needs to happen it all translates
28:24
Speaker 12: into material support for Ukraine, because we do need long
28:27
Speaker 12: range weapons, we need area defense capabilities, and we need
28:32
Speaker 12: material support to keep on going and as well as
28:34
Speaker 12: the right funding. And the way this war is going
28:37
Speaker 12: to end is going to define and shape the future
28:40
Speaker 12: of the world and most importantly of the Asia Pacific.
28:44
Speaker 12: And this is where Australian's stakes are very high, because
28:47
Speaker 12: if Russia can get away with what they've done without
28:50
Speaker 12: being punished, without being held accountable for their active aggression,
28:56
Speaker 12: it will encourage and will inspire a lot of authority
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Speaker 12: on leaders here in the region. So we look forward
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Speaker 12: to working with Australia together on making sure that it
29:06
Speaker 12: doesn't happen. And certainly now there is a lot that
29:10
Speaker 12: we can benefit from each other. While we still need
29:13
Speaker 12: to support in the form of military assistance, there is
29:16
Speaker 12: now a lot that Australia can learn from Ukraine. Both
29:19
Speaker 12: are from the battlefield, from the way the war has
29:21
Speaker 12: changed on a tactical and operational level, but also we
29:25
Speaker 12: can help Australia build its own sovereign defense capabilities in
29:29
Speaker 12: uncrewed systems, in maritime drones, in aerial drones and robotic systems.
29:36
Speaker 12: And innovation has been staggering the past two or three years,
29:40
Speaker 12: and I think that technology that we currently have would
29:43
Speaker 12: be a great benefit to Australia.
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Speaker 6: That's well, thank you so much for your time.
29:48
Speaker 2: And it would be remarkable if, as Trump is now
29:51
Speaker 2: put forward, that Ukraine could when some of the land
29:53
Speaker 2: back that has been lost to Russia. It might be
29:57
Speaker 2: seemingly impossible task, but he's put it out there so
30:01
Speaker 2: you never know.
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Speaker 6: Vassal really appreciate your time. Thank you now still to come.
30:06
Speaker 2: Gaza flotilla activists are targeted by a cyber attack that
30:10
Speaker 2: blasted Abba music through their ship radios. Joe Bernie will
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Speaker 2: join me Live plus Conformer UK Prime Minister Liz Trust
30:17
Speaker 2: save the British Conservative Party.
30:20
Speaker 6: She joins me for an exclusive interview next Welcome back Well.
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Speaker 2: Donald Trump this week painted a picture of the disaster
30:31
Speaker 2: that he says Britain has become. He said parts of
30:34
Speaker 2: London are embracing Sharia law, and he spoke about how
30:38
Speaker 2: immigration and energy madness are destroying the country. This is
30:43
Speaker 2: why Kiir Starmer has been voted the most unpopular UK
30:47
Speaker 2: Prime Minister on record. To discuss these issues, I caught
30:51
Speaker 2: up with former UK Prime Minister Liz Trusts in Sydney yesterday.
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Speaker 6: Here's our interview.
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Speaker 2: Liz trust thank you so much for your time and
31:00
Speaker 2: great to see you in Australia.
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Speaker 5: Good to be here.
31:02
Speaker 2: First, I'm keen to get your reaction to President Donald
31:05
Speaker 2: Trump's speech overnight at the United Nations.
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Speaker 5: Well, I thought it was an incredible speech. He really
31:10
Speaker 5: told the truth to the United Nations, and the United
31:13
Speaker 5: Nations has been part of the problem for a very
31:15
Speaker 5: long time, whether it's its anti Israel stance, whether it's
31:20
Speaker 5: being the host of all of the climate change nonsense,
31:24
Speaker 5: whether it's the sort of even the issues with the
31:29
Speaker 5: building and they escalated a working I remember that from
31:32
Speaker 5: my time, my time as Prime minister, that there's just
31:35
Speaker 5: something seriously wrong with it. And President Trump called it out.
31:38
Speaker 5: He called out the migration crisis in Europe, he called
31:42
Speaker 5: out the free speech crisis in Britain, and I hope
31:46
Speaker 5: he goes further and really tries to sort out the UN.
31:49
Speaker 5: So I think it's a major problem.
31:51
Speaker 6: No I completely agree with you. I think his speech.
31:54
Speaker 2: Overnight really highlighted the policy and philosophical differences between President
32:01
Speaker 2: Trump and leaders like Kia Starmer and Anthony Albanesi. Here
32:05
Speaker 2: in Australia, the policy differences expand from climate change to
32:10
Speaker 2: Palestinian recognition to everything. How do you consider and describe
32:17
Speaker 2: leaders like Starma and albin Esi.
32:20
Speaker 5: Well, it's incredible that they're still peddling these ideas that
32:24
Speaker 5: have been discredited. If you look at the British economy,
32:27
Speaker 5: it's now struggling because our energy prices are so high
32:30
Speaker 5: because we're not producing the oil and gas anymore. We've
32:32
Speaker 5: transitioned to renewables. They're very, very expensive. It's making the
32:37
Speaker 5: UK economy really struggle. I see Albernes going down the
32:41
Speaker 5: same path here in Australia. Meanwhile, Donald Trump is talking
32:45
Speaker 5: about energy dominance and he's making the American economy much
32:49
Speaker 5: more successful. And I just think these people are still
32:51
Speaker 5: caught in the Biden era. It's like times have not changed,
32:55
Speaker 5: but they have not caught up with how Trump is
32:58
Speaker 5: revolutionizing in or diplomacy. He's revolutionizing the whole, you know,
33:04
Speaker 5: the whole woke agenda of the un IS being killed.
33:07
Speaker 2: The UK's twenty thirty five renewable energy targets and emissions reduction.
33:13
Speaker 6: Targets are among the highest in the world.
33:16
Speaker 2: Do you think it is time for countries like the
33:18
Speaker 2: UK to withdraw from Paris like the United States.
33:21
Speaker 6: Has done well.
33:23
Speaker 5: I think it's insane that we've legislated for these targets
33:27
Speaker 5: in Britain and we are being hamstrung. Our economy is
33:30
Speaker 5: being completely hamstrung. Our steel industry is closing down, our
33:33
Speaker 5: car industry is closing down because energy is so expensive,
33:37
Speaker 5: and average people are suffering because they're having to pay
33:40
Speaker 5: such high gas and electricity bills. And the biggest thing
33:43
Speaker 5: is it's all in our law in Britain, so we
33:46
Speaker 5: need to repeal those laws. I think things like Paris
33:49
Speaker 5: are now dead. I just don't think it's credible to
33:53
Speaker 5: carry on when the United States aren't following it. Countries
33:57
Speaker 5: like China and India are busy building cul far power
34:00
Speaker 5: stations and using oil and gas. You know, this is
34:03
Speaker 5: just tying the hands of Western Europe and countries like Australia,
34:08
Speaker 5: and all it's doing is making us poorer.
34:11
Speaker 2: In the UK, immigration is a major issue at the
34:13
Speaker 2: moment we saw the recent rallies in London. I mean
34:17
Speaker 2: the mainstream media estimated the crowd to be about one
34:20
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty thousand.
34:21
Speaker 6: It looked much larger than that.
34:24
Speaker 5: But what do you.
34:25
Speaker 6: Think is the sentiment behind this wave?
34:28
Speaker 5: I mean, people in Britain are incredibly frustrated. Kirst Armer,
34:32
Speaker 5: our prime minister, is the most unpopular prime minister on record.
34:36
Speaker 5: He is detested by the British public. And people are
34:40
Speaker 5: frustrated about immigration, They're frustrated about free speech, the fact
34:44
Speaker 5: that the police aren't dealing with crime but they're arresting
34:48
Speaker 5: people for posting things on X So people are very,
34:51
Speaker 5: very disgruntled. And as you say, the turnout was higher
34:54
Speaker 5: than the mainstream media portrayed it to be. And you know,
34:59
Speaker 5: one of the p we've got is our mainstream media
35:01
Speaker 5: is so out of touch and so part of the
35:05
Speaker 5: old establishment that we've just been talking about, the sort
35:08
Speaker 5: of Biden led establishment, if you like, they're not following
35:11
Speaker 5: what's really going on in Britain. And I think there's
35:13
Speaker 5: going to be a seismic change at the next election
35:16
Speaker 5: because people are beyond frustrated.
35:19
Speaker 2: The next election isn't due until twenty twenty nine, though,
35:22
Speaker 2: do you think there could be movement before then?
35:25
Speaker 5: I think it's unlikely because Labor have a big majority
35:29
Speaker 5: in Parliament and they know they're going to lose the election.
35:32
Speaker 5: So if you're a Labor MP, why would you vote
35:34
Speaker 5: to end the parliament early. I don't think it's realistic.
35:37
Speaker 5: I think we will. We will go to twenty twenty nine,
35:40
Speaker 5: and all of these bad ideas, you know, net zero
35:44
Speaker 5: Canesian economics, where the government spends more money and tax
35:47
Speaker 5: is more. All of these bad ideas are being shown
35:50
Speaker 5: not to work, and that is what is happening now.
35:53
Speaker 5: So I think people almost needed to see what the
35:57
Speaker 5: consequence of these ideas were in order to vote for
36:02
Speaker 5: something different. But I think that is now what's going
36:04
Speaker 5: to happen.
36:05
Speaker 2: So with a Keir Stammer's a quite dramatic collapse. We
36:09
Speaker 2: haven't seen support in the Conservative Party rise and instead
36:13
Speaker 2: it's losing ground to Nigel Farage and Reform. At this point,
36:19
Speaker 2: do you think Nigel Farage could be Britain's next Prime minister?
36:23
Speaker 5: Well, he's the Booky's favorite, and just to put some
36:26
Speaker 5: context on this, he's currently polling just over thirty percent
36:31
Speaker 5: and the Conservative Party on sixteen percent, and the Labor
36:34
Speaker 5: Party is almost as low as the Conservative Party because
36:37
Speaker 5: people have lost trust in the mainstream because they've been
36:41
Speaker 5: peddling these ideas like mass migration, net zero, you know,
36:47
Speaker 5: big government, all of this stuff, anti free speech, stuff
36:52
Speaker 5: that people actually didn't vote for. And when I look
36:56
Speaker 5: at Australia, I can see the same thing will happen
37:00
Speaker 5: if there isn't a strong fight back to actually oppose
37:03
Speaker 5: these bad ideas. Because what happened is too many people
37:06
Speaker 5: in the Conservative Party brought into this stuff. You know,
37:09
Speaker 5: they brought into transgender ideology, they brought into net zero,
37:14
Speaker 5: They raised taxes to the highest level in seventy years.
37:17
Speaker 5: I tried to stop that when I was Prime Minister,
37:20
Speaker 5: but I got very strong opposition from within the Conservative Party.
37:24
Speaker 5: But the net result of that is the Conservative Party
37:27
Speaker 5: is now losing huge amounts of ground to reform.
37:31
Speaker 2: So do you think the Conservative Party needs to change
37:35
Speaker 2: or do you think you would find a home elsewhere?
37:39
Speaker 5: Or the Conservative Party does need to change or it
37:41
Speaker 5: will die.
37:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, And would you consider returning as leader to the
37:46
Speaker 2: Conservative Party? Do you still have political aspiration? I mean,
37:50
Speaker 2: I don't rule out any anything in the future.
37:53
Speaker 5: But what I know from my time as a minister
37:55
Speaker 5: and Prime minister is what I call the blob in
37:58
Speaker 5: Britain is very powerful. The other elected bureaucrats the judiciary.
38:02
Speaker 5: So I am only willing to be part of politics
38:05
Speaker 5: if politicians can really actually do things. If it's a
38:09
Speaker 5: case that the Bank of England makes the decisions, or
38:11
Speaker 5: the judiciary makes the decisions, or the bureaucrat makes the decisions,
38:15
Speaker 5: what is the point of being a politician. So we
38:18
Speaker 5: are now having a much broader discussion in Britain about
38:22
Speaker 5: what is wrong. Why is the country ungovernable? Why have
38:26
Speaker 5: we had a series of prime ministers who haven't delivered
38:29
Speaker 5: what the population actually want, because of the power of
38:32
Speaker 5: the ngngos, because of the power of the the global blob,
38:37
Speaker 5: if you like the bureaucracy. So that's to me, I
38:41
Speaker 5: want to be part of that discussion about the big
38:43
Speaker 5: changes we need to make in order to make Britain
38:46
Speaker 5: great again. Because if it's if we simply change the
38:50
Speaker 5: person in Downing Street, I know from my experience they're
38:53
Speaker 5: not going to be able to do anything without repealing
38:56
Speaker 5: all of the laws that we've just been talking about.
38:58
Speaker 5: For example, the net zero law. If we don't repeal
39:01
Speaker 5: those laws, we're not going to get anything done.
39:04
Speaker 6: You just mentioned they're make Britain grat again.
39:07
Speaker 2: Do you think the UK does need a leader with
39:10
Speaker 2: samon Donald Trump's conviction?
39:12
Speaker 5: Absolutely? I mean, I think Trump is doing an amazing job.
39:15
Speaker 5: I think he gets vilified, but he is actually standing
39:19
Speaker 5: up for what regular people in our countries want. They
39:22
Speaker 5: don't want mass immigration, they don't want high energy prices,
39:26
Speaker 5: they don't want high taxes. And Trump is actually taking
39:29
Speaker 5: on the global establishment, like the un like the World
39:34
Speaker 5: Traded Organization, all these organizations who have got in the
39:38
Speaker 5: way of delivering prosperity for people.
39:41
Speaker 2: Many Jews now say they feel unsafe in London. Do
39:45
Speaker 2: you think this is something that can be changed or
39:47
Speaker 2: reversed on.
39:49
Speaker 5: It can be changed, But the problem is we've got
39:51
Speaker 5: a Prime minister now who is appeasing the Islamists to
39:55
Speaker 5: get votes, and he's recognized Palestine, which is appalling after
40:01
Speaker 5: what happened on October the seventh, where huge numbers of
40:05
Speaker 5: people were raped and murdered, and he's not doing enough
40:08
Speaker 5: to make sure that Jewish people feel safe and protected,
40:13
Speaker 5: particularly in London. And these marches that are happening all
40:16
Speaker 5: the time.
40:17
Speaker 2: We've got exactly the same issue here. I'm interested to
40:20
Speaker 2: know your viewer on our Prime Minister Anthony Albinisi.
40:23
Speaker 6: Do you think he is a weak socialist leader.
40:27
Speaker 5: Well, he's following very similar policies to Kirstar that they
40:30
Speaker 5: appear to be very coordinated if you look at the
40:33
Speaker 5: recognition of Palestine or the net zero policies. But I
40:37
Speaker 5: think these policies are wrong. I think they're leading Australia
40:41
Speaker 5: in the wrong direction. And you just need to look
40:44
Speaker 5: at Britain to see a caution retail of what happens
40:49
Speaker 5: when the government spends too much money when energy prices
40:51
Speaker 5: are high because of an over dependence on renewables. You know,
40:55
Speaker 5: our industry is closing down, our steel industry, our car industry,
41:00
Speaker 5: and I feel this is the future for Australia if
41:03
Speaker 5: the course hasn't changed.
41:05
Speaker 2: Just finally, you met with Charlie Kirk in London earlier
41:09
Speaker 2: this year. We've seen this horrific reaction where so many
41:13
Speaker 2: on the left have been celebrating his political assassination. It
41:18
Speaker 2: literally murdering someone for free speech.
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Speaker 5: In a sense.
41:22
Speaker 2: It's the next step from the UK where people are
41:26
Speaker 2: being arrested for free speech.
41:29
Speaker 6: Well, it's trying to free speech into a crime.
41:32
Speaker 11: Yeah.
41:32
Speaker 5: I mean I met Charlie earlier this year in London
41:36
Speaker 5: because we are keen to have the momentum and the
41:40
Speaker 5: movement that he created, you know, talking to young people
41:43
Speaker 5: about conservative ideas, Christian values. We want this in the
41:48
Speaker 5: United Kingdom. And he's a great patriot and inspirational person
41:52
Speaker 5: and it's an absolute tragedy and heenus crime that he's
41:58
Speaker 5: been assassinated. And what really bothers me about this is
42:06
Speaker 5: we've seen the left use all kinds of tactics to
42:09
Speaker 5: try and win, not just winning an election or having
42:12
Speaker 5: a rational argument, but they've been using lawfare, they've been
42:15
Speaker 5: using infiltration of the bureaucracy. And now what we're seeing
42:20
Speaker 5: is people on the left using assassination as a technique
42:24
Speaker 5: and that is beyond horrible. And you know, Charlie Kirk
42:30
Speaker 5: was somebody who actually wanted to reach out and debate
42:33
Speaker 5: the issues and rather than try and participate in this,
42:37
Speaker 5: we've seen the extreme left go out and kill him.
42:41
Speaker 5: And it's very difficult to see how enough you can't
42:47
Speaker 5: reason with people like that. So I think I think
42:50
Speaker 5: Trump is right to sanction Antifa. I'm very, very concerned
42:56
Speaker 5: about these global left wing networks who certainly have these
43:00
Speaker 5: murderer saints. But we need to be looking at this
43:03
Speaker 5: in the UK and right across the world. This trust.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time today, really appreciate it.
43:10
Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you.
43:12
Speaker 3: Well.
43:12
Speaker 2: It definitely sounded to me like she does still have
43:15
Speaker 2: political ambitions. It's a long time until the next UK
43:18
Speaker 2: election in twenty twenty nine, so she could see a
43:22
Speaker 2: return to the Conservative Party.
43:23
Speaker 6: Who knows all right?
43:25
Speaker 2: Coming up, the sharp rise in gender changes and the
43:28
Speaker 2: debate it's sparking over women's safety. Plus Greta's Gaza flotilla
43:33
Speaker 2: is attacked by music, Yes by Aber music.
43:37
Speaker 6: Joel Bernie will be here next.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back. We Israeli Prime Minister Benjaminette and Yao who
43:46
Speaker 2: has vowed to use his speech at the UN to
43:49
Speaker 2: denounce the leaders of western countries that have chosen to
43:52
Speaker 2: recognize a Palestinian state.
43:55
Speaker 6: But not all leaders who.
43:57
Speaker 2: Spoke at the UN were as morally banged craft as Australia.
44:02
Speaker 5: We must also recognize, we must also respect and we
44:07
Speaker 5: must also guarantee the safety and security of Israel.
44:13
Speaker 11: Finally, we retuate our demand for the immediate release of
44:17
Speaker 11: the hostages.
44:18
Speaker 5: Which remain captive in Gaza.
44:20
Speaker 2: We do not side with those who keep all the
44:22
Speaker 2: blame for what is happening in Gaza on Israel.
44:25
Speaker 6: Because it was Commas that unleashed the war. It is
44:29
Speaker 6: Commas that could end the suffering.
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Speaker 2: And joining me now, Australia Israel and Jewish Affairs Council
44:35
Speaker 2: Executive Manager Joel Bernie, Joel, good to see you again.
44:38
Speaker 2: It's refreshing to see this rational thinking from the leaders
44:42
Speaker 2: of Italy, Argentina and Indonesia, isn't it.
44:47
Speaker 11: Well, thank you for having me on, and obviously it
44:49
Speaker 11: definitely is. So there's good things that are coming out
44:52
Speaker 11: of certain countries, and I think that we shouldn't gloss
44:55
Speaker 11: over the very important speege by President Prabao from Indonesia.
45:00
Speaker 11: It was very strong and it was very clear in
45:03
Speaker 11: the fact that Indonesia supports Israel's right to exist, and
45:08
Speaker 11: also Indonesia's offered to immediately recognize Israel if there's genuine
45:13
Speaker 11: movement on the Palestinian issue. The problem is, Sharry, is
45:16
Speaker 11: that if the Indonesian president can give a more favorable
45:20
Speaker 11: speech towards Israel than what our own prime minister, as
45:23
Speaker 11: in Albanese can give. It really does show and illustrate
45:27
Speaker 11: the deterioration and the bilateral relationship over such a short
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Speaker 11: period of time. So whilst many countries are deserting Israel
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Speaker 11: and it's very historic friendship with Israel, there are countries
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Speaker 11: that are willing to stand up and defend I.
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Speaker 2: Mean, Joe, you think back to before Albanesi became Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister and the promises he made and Pennywong made to
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Speaker 2: Australia that there'd be bipartisan policy on Israel the biggest
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Speaker 2: broken promise.
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Speaker 11: Well, there's no doubt about that, and the viewers need
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Speaker 11: to be a yeah that this shift away from Israel
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Speaker 11: started long before the tragic events of October seven. So
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Speaker 11: I clearly remember those articles when then Opposition leader Anthony
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Speaker 11: Albanese he was saying very stridently that he would adopt
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Speaker 11: the Irah definition there would definitely be no historic departure
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Speaker 11: from bipartisan positions. And then no less than twelve months
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Speaker 11: into the first term, we have the reversal of the
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Speaker 11: recognition of West Jerusalem as Israel's capital, essentially raising three
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Speaker 11: thousand years of Jewish history in one swoop. Now, that
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Speaker 11: was a year before the events of October seven, and
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Speaker 11: since the massacre, the biggest massacre of Jews and the Holocaust,
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Speaker 11: things have got progressively worse. We had the Prime Minister
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Speaker 11: only a couple of days ago in the General Assembly
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Speaker 11: equate the two thousand years of Jewish exile from the
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Speaker 11: destruction of the Second Temple by the Romans in seventy
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Speaker 11: AD to somehow be similar to the Palestinian pursuit and
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Speaker 11: long held suit of statehood. Now, I'm not judging their
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Speaker 11: self determination and their aspirations in that comment. I'm just
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Speaker 11: saying that they're not the same. And we are used
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Speaker 11: and sick and tired of this Prime Minister not getting
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Speaker 11: who we are, our history and our priorities. You know,
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Speaker 11: this constant equation equating of anti Semitism in Islamophobia is
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Speaker 11: just another example of this government's clear lack of knowledge
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Speaker 11: as to how our community is genuinely feeling about things.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, indeed, Joe, we saw a drone attack on Israel
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Speaker 2: last night.
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Speaker 6: It came from Yemen.
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Speaker 2: The Hooties are being blamed for it, but yet barely
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Speaker 2: any coverage of this terror attack and all the media
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Speaker 2: focus seemed to be on Greta's flotilla, which was attacked
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Speaker 2: reportedly by drones.
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Speaker 6: The activists on.
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Speaker 2: Board claimed they heard thirteen explosions and they said that
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Speaker 2: abba music, which is kind of funny, began playing through
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Speaker 2: the ship's radios at full volume.
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Speaker 6: I mean, barely any coverage on an actual terror.
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Speaker 2: Attack and Abbas playing And this is where the media
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Speaker 2: is so concerned about.
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Speaker 11: Yeah, and just some quick fier answers on that, just
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Speaker 11: to illustrate the point. So the first thing is is
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Speaker 11: that this drone attack on a light emanating from Yemen
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Speaker 11: injured twenty people. There was an explosive payload in the
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Speaker 11: drone it got through the air defense systems. But the
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Speaker 11: point is is that Israel is consistently on a daily
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Speaker 11: basis under attack. It could be cruise missiles, ballistic missiles
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Speaker 11: or armed drones. Now, no Australians would want to live
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Speaker 11: under this situation for a day, let alone for the
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Speaker 11: past two years of this conflict, and let alone for
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Speaker 11: the past many decades. So Australians need to understand the
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Speaker 11: day to day life of Israelis and the danger that
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Speaker 11: many civilians have to face, and the type of ill
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Speaker 11: actions by neighbors. It is not the same neighborhood that
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Speaker 11: Australia lives in. Israel has many, many enemies on its
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Speaker 11: borders and also far from its borders, illustrated by now
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Speaker 11: just on this flotilla and the stupidity of it. Now
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Speaker 11: we have an escalation where we have naval vessels from
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Speaker 11: Italy and Spain who will shortly join the flotilla. Now,
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Speaker 11: I would not believe anything coming out of the representatives
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Speaker 11: for the flotilla for a couple of reasons. The first
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Speaker 11: thing is is that many weeks ago there was an
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Speaker 11: alleged drone attack that turned out to be a flare
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Speaker 11: that had been misfired by one of the crew members
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Speaker 11: that fell back onto the boat, again misinformation. The Israeli
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Speaker 11: government is of the belief that many of the flotilla
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Speaker 11: organizers have connections with CAMAS and other terror entities inside
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Speaker 11: the Palestine. And the most important thing is that if
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Speaker 11: these activists are so hell bent on getting their aid
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Speaker 11: to Gaza, Israel has offered to offload the aid in
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Speaker 11: Ashglong and the port of Ashkelon, only maybe fifteen to
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Speaker 11: twenty kilometers from the border of Gaza. And very routinely
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Speaker 11: deliver that aid to Gaza. So this was about.
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Speaker 2: As not about aid, It's all about publicity. Stunt Joe Byrne.
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Speaker 2: Great to see you as always, Thank you so much.
50:02
Speaker 2: Now still to come exactly how many men have changed
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Speaker 2: their gender on their birth certificate.
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Speaker 6: I'll tell you after the break.
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Speaker 2: The Daily Telegraph reports that in the past three months,
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Speaker 2: seven hundred and sixty six people have changed genders, nearly
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Speaker 2: five hundred of their men becoming women. This since controversial
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Speaker 2: legislation was introduced in New South Wales. Thanks for your
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Speaker 2: company this week, and here's Paul Mari