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Slow Burn · Building 341

• DJ Rubbaban: Welcome, welcome, welcome to building 341 with DJ Rubber Band and Caddy B. We chilling y'all. We just trying to feed y'all. just giving y'all a slow stir up this mount y'all. Be patient with us. Be patient with us, you know? So Caddy, what are we talking about today, Caddy? CaddeyB: talk about people's feelings, how they're sensitive, they're salty. ⁓ We got some mama talk we got to talk about. DJ Rubbaban: No, I didn't want to really want to get it like deep, deep, but I wanted to kind of say, do you feel like music where music is now has something to do with like nowadays you can't really say something to somebody. Like if somebody got a big head and you go, Nick, roll, you need a helmet on your head. You got a big ass head. You can't do that. That's wrong. CaddeyB: You can't talk about people riding this short short bus and you know DJ Rubbaban: You can't, you can't do none of that. And then when we look at our game culture right now and this current is not saying they not hard, not saying they not putting in work, but when everything is televised, the game is different. The game is different and the music is different. And we're a music channel with every kind of aspect of music and culture and the culture is different. CaddeyB: It is. It is. DJ Rubbaban: Katty, like think about, think about you being in junior high school and some girl walk up to you and go, Katty, Michael said he gonna beat your ass when y'all go to recess, cause you live across the tracks. And everybody go, ⁓ Katty, ⁓ Katty, you gonna fight. Nowadays it's on Instagram, TikTok. Like. CaddeyB: mm-hmm we was getting it in between classes yeah we I mean DJ Rubbaban: They literally show videos of people fighting. Now, how was it for you in high school or junior high? Did they do that? I'm whooping your ass at three o'clock when we got out of school. How was it? CaddeyB: ⁓ no, we would get it in the halls in between class. Just right there when the bell came out. mean, I got into it in class once, but that was different. DJ Rubbaban: See, see, see. And I'm not saying they don't do all that. And you know that look, and you know that Pete Love was in San Diego, you know. Look, that Pete Love. That Pete Love. So how do you feel about... CaddeyB: It It's funny though, I remember when I was in Dago, I didn't really get into it with ops like that. Nah, was... No it was, but where I was at in Oceanside and stuff, there wasn't any P's in there yet. Now, now they're all over it Oceanside. Last time I was down there, I walked by some cat and he was just like, what's up? DJ Rubbaban: ⁓ you didn't? So San Diego ain't like that, ⁓ Right. Right. CaddeyB: you know but it's like I don't know it's different DJ Rubbaban: Right, Culture, and culture changes so much, you know, and I look at it for me, like I won't over glamorize it, but I will say ⁓ that part of the culture for me helped me grow in a lot of different ways. And I feel like at certain extent, gang banging should be transitioned. It should be a transitional stage. It's kinda, I feel like it's kinda like the Boy Scouts. for me, like everybody wanted to do it or tried to do it. You know what I mean? And it was different. It was a different, I think, and see how we start with something and go in some wealth. I feel like the story of gang banging. CaddeyB: Yeah! but it's a feather in your cap, like it's something that is there. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, feel like the story of gang banging as it pertained to California hasn't been told yet. I feel like Kev Mac, I feel like Street Gangs TV, I feel like all these other young cats is coming in and murdering it, the information, but it's generations of it. And it was started by a kid. Like when you talk about Tookie and all of them, they were kids. CaddeyB: Yeah, those are kids. DJ Rubbaban: Like my big homies, like my big homies today are in their sixties, like my big homies and my big homies was second generation almost. Like in the seventies, gangs just, just, it just, they just came and just changed everything. And so our music ultimately started to change and the architects of NWA may be easy, but other than that, none of them was like banging hard. but they brought it forward and made it. And so now with these young people right now, when they talk about killing and rap music and it's all kind of talking about that heavy mess, youngsters don't listen to the oldies. They don't listen to the old dudes. They do what they want to do. CaddeyB: Yeah. We have to say they all just feel that we ⁓ were not relevant. Because we don't we don't understand like we've never been. We've never been where they are and they don't realize that you know I forgot more than you'll ever know. DJ Rubbaban: Right, right, right, right. Right. Bye. CaddeyB: I've been there, I've done everything that you can think of twice over. There's nothing out there that's ever new. Music or where you're going through in life, like somebody's done it twice, at least. DJ Rubbaban: But for you and both of us to some extent, just mine was done differently. ⁓ When drugs entered into the game on a major level, gang banging changed forever. Cause you gotta remember it was no money in gang banging. You gotta think about what we did in our neighborhood. Most of us had a mama or daddy or you know I mean? And so economically, When I lived in Inglewood and the bottoms of Inglewood, California, it's apartments. It's all apartments. It's some houses, but it's mostly apartments. So the gangs that you get from those places are different in Inglewood than the gangs you would get ⁓ going down the avenues because they were nice houses, but they were still deadly. ⁓ When you move towards Prairie, where it was a few crips or you moved on a certain part, you know what I mean? And so culturally, It's so many levels to the game. It's in like some gangs, those old, my OGs, they mostly listen to oldies. They never really listened to a bunch of rap stuff. CaddeyB: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's the thing, like most of the OGs, they was doing drive-bys with, you know, old schools playing. You know, got Marvin Gaye playing while you're doing a drive-by. You know what I mean? It's like, they wasn't listening to, you know, Percocet, Percocet. It was just like a chill vibe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No. Well, no, because like we've discussed it before, you know, it wasn't cool to be a knock. You know, it was... DJ Rubbaban: They don't even talk about me. Right. I mean, even though they had pills too in the seventies, they didn't have, yeah, it wasn't those kinds of pills, you know, they had pills. Right, right. But you know, when it comes to the P, ⁓ and I feel like I'm part of this narrative too is when it came to music, you guys just had all the top artists was, you know, was rips. All the top artists was rips. And so I remember like, you didn't want to listen to them, but you had to listen to all of them. And then you would see them back then. CaddeyB: Yeah. Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: You would see, you know what mean? You will see King T you will see ice tea. You like all of them was. CaddeyB: Yeah, yeah, I mean, Battle Cat and... DJ Rubbaban: All about, like I said, I ain't gonna put this stuff out, but you indirectly back then before the internet, ⁓ you just knew where everybody was from. know, Battlecat used to DJ at this place called the cave. lot of ⁓ us, like Arabian Prince from NWA used to DJ at the cave and we used to carry the records and help out. you know, DJ's trying to come up and yeah, I ain't gonna put this stuff out, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. CaddeyB: Yeah. But y'all hate, but y'all hate quick. Y'all hate quick. DJ Rubbaban: But see when we got quick, quick was with the groove. Quick wasn't, we just took Quick. Like we love Quick and bow down to Quick, but y'all has such a variety. CaddeyB: quick quick kind of was the first one he kind of was the first one DJ Rubbaban: He was kind of the first one, but you guys had such an array of different kind of rips and it was hard. And I don't think people really talked about how hard it was for DJ Quick before Shug came around and that whole movement because it was hard to be a rip in LA. And imagine you wearing that banner on you. man, used to, man, it was hard. It was hard. CaddeyB: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But see, the thing about Quick, the thing about Quick though was that ⁓ Ripz did have no problem. Ripz did have no problem listening to Quick. Even though he was a blood. DJ Rubbaban: It was, and then the music that came out of that. some extent though, but you got to remember one of the things of those generations of B-Dogs was a lot of them and they taught you, cause you wanted to move around LA and San Diego and other places. So you just done it. You, you, you did the things that you did in a certain kind of way. So you wore red khakis in your neighborhood, but at the same time, you knew that made you a target. CaddeyB: Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: So you went to Burgundy, ⁓ know, P-Dogs wore theirs on the right, Rips wore it on the left. So it was certain things that you did. Maybe you get on a bus and you see like three crib dudes with their rags hanging out. Blood dude gonna be just as hard, but he gonna have his put in there. And if he pull it out a little bit, he getting ready to get out. You just got to get, got, cause back then it was fighting more. was shooting, but it was fighting more. CaddeyB: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, although you had to have hands. DJ Rubbaban: And then certain schools, at certain schools, it was both. You know what mean? Like say for instance, Morningside High School, which is gone now in Inglewood, Morningside was ⁓ a blood school. ⁓ It was a pyro blood, whatever school you call. And it was in the hood too. And ⁓ I remember some of my folks from on- that was in a gang on the Oscars, right? One of the few Crip gangs at the time. Man, they had a hard time. Cause we all knew, everybody knew everybody. And a lot of them would have to go to other schools, right? And I remember seeing, and this particular person was my homie, right? And I seen him in my hood and he was talking to this girl and I was with my boy. He was like, who was that? Who was that? I was like, ⁓ man, that's my folks, man. He played football. He played football. CaddeyB: Yeah, yeah. DJ Rubbaban: So I never talked about it. So they was going to get him. So years later, me and him was talking, met him through Facebook or something. I mean, I got reconnected with him and he was like, man, remember when I was over so-and-so? I was like, yeah. I was like, yeah, they was going to get you. Yeah. And so, and I'm not saying that was right. I'm not saying, but the culture was different. So the respect was different. Cause you knew when people came at you. CaddeyB: times was different everything was different everything was different we weren't you also have to remember like we weren't about instant gratification back then it was just like we was just living like it was just life like unity me it was like we remembered phone numbers we did all those things and it was like it was just living life like you weren't sitting there DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, baby. Right, right. But was it wrong though? Was it even now us as adult, as grown men, can we say that we was a part of making that brand? CaddeyB: It wasn't wrong, but it wasn't right. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah? CaddeyB: There's really no fault in it. Like you can't sit there and say, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah. I mean, if you survived it, I mean, you know, if you survived it, cause you look at, you don't own like, and, and, and I'm gonna say this. hope people don't get mad at me. ⁓ kind of the first wave, ⁓ in Southern California, cause they had this thing called redlining and redlining was in Southern California, blacks couldn't live certain places. Hispanics had to live. So, you know, like we were usually with Hispanics, but. Blacks didn't, you couldn't buy houses next to white people. So we had certain areas and even though indirectly they didn't put you in jail, you just kind of knew you stayed in your sections. And sometimes your cities was close to a city that was, you couldn't live. And over time, people began to say those cities were better than your city. So say a lot of times when blacks started to migrate to Southern Cal, we went to Watts. Compton, we went to certain parts of the city. And then as we got more economically got better, we would go to Inglewood. We would go to Linwood. so the transition. So now when you look up, when you Google Compton, the majority of people in Compton are not African-Americans no more. They're probably Hispanics. And when you Google, look at Inglewood, where it was pretty much predominantly black in the 70s, 80s, 90s. And there's nothing wrong, but as we transition and we look at economics and how it played, did gang banging really help? Did gang banging, did you transition out of it? So many people died in high school that never got a chance to have a family, hurt their communities. And then once drugs came into play, B. CaddeyB: Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: Remember the big homie that was the big homie that didn't have that much money, but you listen to them. And then once people start making money, they didn't listen to that big homie no more. They didn't listen to that big. They didn't listen to that big homie, you know? CaddeyB: I think the problem with the drug game, what it brought out was a lot more of egos. Because it was easy, because it's easy to go get fronted some dope and turn around and make some money real quick and then all of sudden what happens if you make some money? Easy money. You feel like you like you like you king-dingling. DJ Rubbaban: Right, right. Right? CaddeyB: But you not that head nigga in charge. You just another worker. But you got that pumped up in your chest like you got some money. DJ Rubbaban: But at the same time, cultures throughout, when you look at history, ⁓ every culture has had little boys groups, ⁓ gangs, street gangs. When you look back at history, it's not just African-American men and Hispanic men and women, but it's been so much of an emphasis on us. You know what mean? It's been an emphasis on Hispanics and blacks and like, ooh, you guys were former gang members. Like, ooh. And so... CaddeyB: Yeah, yeah, yeah, always. No. DJ Rubbaban: And again, I don't think the story's been written all the way to say it was fun times. CaddeyB: Yeah, right you tell me that a lacrosse team together you know any gang or a team or a football football team like a like that's all gangs everybody all gangs DJ Rubbaban: Yeah, like I feel like one of the benefits I got. And then kind of respecting when you go to other places, their version of what a gang is. Like I remember when I went to college and you know, me coming from Southern Cal, I was like, ain't nothing like LA. But then you go to the Bay and you go, ooh, they don't have gangs, but they got gangs. They don't have traditional gangs, but you go to Six Nineville, you go to so and so, you go to, yeah, you go to San Francisco. Yeah. Like, whoo. CaddeyB: Take it back to Quick, know, Quick said, you know, it's just like Compton. That's everywhere. DJ Rubbaban: Yeah. So much love to everybody. just kind of, we talking and we had three or four other things we was going to talk about, but we was just wanting to just feed you a little bit and tell you what's going on in our heads. You know what I'm saying? Shout out, look, shout out to Rips, Rips worldwide. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then, and you too, I shouldn't say this, but I'm going say it. CaddeyB: Let you know we all relevant, you know. DJ Rubbaban: You know how sometimes you can watch a video or you can see a young man and you go, man, you wasting all of that on gang banging. When you could just, you so dynamic, you so, you really don't know the, the, the breath of what you in store for just that target on you. the politics in the world right now, like where does gang banging really play in the politics of world domination right now? CaddeyB: Yeah think lots of things is like that, you know, now that we dads and grandpas and you know what mean, now that we old men, it's like you look at what other people do just in general life, you kind of look at it and be like, man, there's some better decisions you could be making with gangs, you know, drugs, drinking, women, you know, men, whatever it is that you're with, like, you know, it's like... We don't look at things through that small microscope anymore. It's on a bigger scale. DJ Rubbaban: ⁓ it's crazy, crazy. So I got a little bit of a story and then we gonna close. got a little bit. This is a gang bang story. This is a gang bang story. So I remember one of my cousins or homeboys, somebody was trying to chest dies, I'm right. ⁓ so they called me, even back then it was self, it was phones, right? And so he called me and he was like, man, so and so tripping with me, man. So and so tripping with me. ⁓ Can you come over on Saturday? And I want you to get him. I was like, all right. And we all kind of did that because people did that for me. You know what mean? It was just, it was just part of the, it's part of that, you know. So I go over there and everybody on little bikes and he was like, ⁓ that's him. I was like, ⁓ what's up? So I go into my whole, you know, thing and I'm, I'm a kid too, right? So I beat him up and I take his bike, right? I beat him up and I take his bike. CaddeyB: Mm-hmm. DJ Rubbaban: And so the Povato, when you young, until you really know who you are, you emulate other people around you till you get your own, you know, whatever. And so I took his bike and I beat him up. And so me and my cousin leave, right? And we take his bike. So we throwing up stuff. So in LA, you going through many hoods. So we going back to my cousin's hood. So we go up this hill. And a whole two carloads of another gang came up and swiped him off the bike and swiped me off the bike and start shooting. We go up under the car. We go up under the car. He go up under the car on the other side. They roll back around. didn't see us. We get up from under the car, get the bike and the bike broke, but we still trying to take the bike and we running across. the street, we like, we trying to get across the street. We get to his house, put the bike on the side of his house. We start laughing the whole Povato and we go in the house and like nothing else happened. And I say that story to say that, so the karma that you put out. CaddeyB: At that time, at that time, you was juicy. You was like, now you look back at it and you're like, you like, no. Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, I'm a big homie from so and so and so and so. But you see like the energy you put out fighting somebody, doing negative. I didn't know if my cousin was right or wrong, why he was picking on him, even though he was bigger than him. So you made an enemy with that. You steal, cause you took a bike and then you get your karma back instantly, right? Cause somebody in a car with a whole bunch of people. CaddeyB: Yeah, yeah. DJ Rubbaban: knock you off the bike. could have got, you could have got run over, shot at, and then we come home and we laughing and joking. And so I see, I have like hundreds of them kinds of stories which helped my rep, but what did it really help? You know what saying? CaddeyB: ⁓ yeah. Yeah, yeah. It didn't give you nothing. Mm-hmm. DJ Rubbaban: And that was on a P, you know what I'm saying? You know, and so, and this is tons of those. so later on, I remember getting into a fight with somebody on the bus and even though I didn't lose, almost broke my arm. And then, you know what I mean? Like you should, it's just tons of that stuff. And so I would love to musically, as well as any of you, some, some, um, somebody currently in that scenario, but somebody that's out of it. Like, cause all of us are out of it. But ⁓ the game ain't really been told yet. It's been televised over and over, but because it's different version of the game, you know? CaddeyB: Yeah, yeah. There is. There's a lot of different versions. It's just like anything else, you know? Everybody has their own views on what they went through, how they lived it, what they were listening to at that time, what helped them get through that. Like, it's always moving. It's always changing. You made me think of a bike story. was... So... DJ Rubbaban: It's all, I like that word, it's always moving. Give me one, me one, Katty, we gonna leave. Give me one and we gonna shut it off. Look, we gonna leave it ⁓ on the seat. Give me one and I'm gonna shut up. CaddeyB: So I got dropped off. It ain't even a gang story, though. So I got a ride from somebody, I remember who, to go see this female. I got dropped off. And her dad met me at the door and was like, no, ain't happening. You get out of here. I'm on the other side of town. We ain't got cell phones. So I'm trying to figure out how I'm gonna get back home. So I'm walking. DJ Rubbaban: No, but it's all part of it. CaddeyB: And it's way on the other side of town. So I'm walking and walking. I'm like, fuck this. I see this bike sitting in this in this front yard. I'm like, fuck, I'm just going to take this bike. I'm just going to I'm just going to ride it home. I hop on this bike. I start riding. Also, this car comes by. It honks. Dude's yelling at me. I'm like, oh shit. I stole out of his driveway. I just start riding. All of a this motherfucker just starts running behind me. and he's yelling at me and he was like, you better stop, better stop. He's like, you didn't know I'm a track star, Olympian gold medal. DJ Rubbaban: No! ⁓ CaddeyB: off duty cop excellent being track runner ran my ass down ⁓ DJ Rubbaban: ⁓ Did you hit a corner? you switch it on him? CaddeyB: I tried, I went through an alleyway, all kinds of stuff, he still caught me. DJ Rubbaban: He caught you? CaddeyB: Caught me. Caught me. He had cuffs on him. Cuffed. DJ Rubbaban: ⁓ my god, ugh. CaddeyB: off to Juvra Hall. Karma, karma that came back around. DJ Rubbaban: Karma do but but didn't you learn something from that though? ⁓ CaddeyB: I'd never steal anything again. DJ Rubbaban: or not on that street. CaddeyB: It's okay. But stealing a bike, like for nothing. DJ Rubbaban: So what did mom say? What did mom say? CaddeyB: stupid why didn't you call somebody I say how you gonna call ain't got no phone There was no payphones on that side of town where I was at over by the park. No payphones. It was just like, it was raining. DJ Rubbaban: So the music, so look, we'll end it with this. So the music that you listen to now in generations after that brings you back to that moment. So when I listen to, ⁓ I never seen a man die, you know, till I seen a man cry by Scarface, like certain stuff brings it back to that. And so a lot of times like my kids will say, why you rap so angry? Why you rap like. man, why you rap? I'm like, I like all kinds of rap, but that experience and even, and so even my experiences with like the big homies, like the big ones, like everybody know on the internet that some of them will be like, cause I was always smart, right? I was always, you know, it was good in school. And so they would go, little homie, help me with this. So I would read the letters. ⁓ I would write the letters. ⁓ I would connect them with other people that can help them with certain stuff that I didn't necessarily know every part of it, but I always could figure stuff out. And so you need homies like that. You know? CaddeyB: enough to be dangerous yeah yeah definitely definitely I think it's funny that I think it's DJ Rubbaban: And so when I went to college, they was like, good luck for you. You know, and then, and then, and then our culture, we relate anything that's changing or doing better sometimes as, you think you better than us? A lot of the big homies was like, man, you go do your thing. You go. CaddeyB: that's how they supposed to be that's how it was supposed to be always was you know what I mean you're supposed to sit there and take the young ones and be like the YG's and like hey no you need to go do this you like you need to be you need to get out and bring bring knowledge and and stuff back to the hood like that's what you're supposed to do like you're not supposed to sit there and just yeah it wasn't always like that DJ Rubbaban: but it wasn't always, you know what mean? So how do you feel? CaddeyB: It's funny how the youngins say our music is angry, but I don't think that our music was angrier. I think it was just our music actually hits the soul and makes you feel something. Whereas their new music is just, ⁓ it's all about a vibe, but their vibe is just, it's weak. There's nothing, like there's nothing, like there's no substance there. There's no soul there. Like all those people who are doing music now, like, yeah, sure. It's good. Like I'm not, I'm not knocking anybody. You do what you do. You know I mean? But for me, there's no substance. There's no soul to it. DJ Rubbaban: Right. Yeah, percuss it, perc- Right, right, Right. CaddeyB: So when somebody sit there and says all your music was more angry. No, it just had soul to it. Like it had something there like DJ Rubbaban: But when you look at the new music that's out now, a lot of the old artists, people aren't listening to them. They not listening to them. Like I listened to Eric Sermon's album last night and it was good, but it was Eric Sermon. It was Eric Sermon, right? He even had a song on there with EPMD, I mean him in Paris, and he had a song when it was Salt and Pepper, like, yeah, like, you know, respect E double. CaddeyB: Yeah, which is sad. There's so much music out there. It was. It was good. But, I mean... Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, he had, I mean it was to the Duelists, had everybody, he had Cypress Hill on there, he had everybody on there. How much do think that album will get talked about? DJ Rubbaban: but you know, one of my favorites. He somebody got to get shot. ⁓ you know what? He was on the new Diddy documentary. The new Diddy one that's on Netflix with ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah. He said Diddy tried to snuff him. Diddy tried to snuff him cause he was dating when he dated Mesa Hilton. Puff's first baby was first baby mom, think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And this was, and I'm going say this too, right? So when he talks about it in the, in the doc, he says that fool snuffing me. CaddeyB: on Netflix that 50 Cent put out. That's out. DJ Rubbaban: I said, get in car, we gonna go around the corner and fight. That's our generation. That's what he said. He said, get in the car, we gonna go around and fight. then Puff said, listen to this song. And when they finally pulled over, they didn't even fight. It was whatever the song. I don't know if it was Biggie or whoever, but he said, listen to the song. But he said, that's the kind of things we would do back in them days. Like, fool is go around the corner and fight. CaddeyB: Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: go around the corner and fight. And you will be scared too. You will be scared, like, man, I gotta go around the corner and fight this dude. And that's what he said in it. CaddeyB: Yeah, I my dad talking about like, you know, that's how it was. You just went out back. Cousins, nephews, anybody. No, no. No, you ain't gonna sit there. You know what mean? Like, Galaxy ain't gonna be like, oh dad, I got problems with you. We can go out back. You can be like, I wish you would. DJ Rubbaban: But dope, but that's not happening no more. That's not happening no more. Shout out to E Double for letting Puff snuff him, tell him to get in the car, go around the corner and listen to a hit. mean, hey, shout out to Green Eye Bandit. Go buy his new album. CaddeyB: Yeah, like, mean, but there's a lot out. There's like no big people. Like, there's a lot of the older music that's out, ain't nobody talking about it. DJ Rubbaban: Right, right. And we keep hearing about these new platforms, like ⁓ Rock Nation is doing a new platform. But even just getting it out, people need to make their ends and their coins. Everybody ain't got a retirement plan. CaddeyB: Yeah, yeah, I mean like I haven't heard too many people talk about the De La Soul album It's like DJ Rubbaban: Yeah. CaddeyB: And I think it's good. I don't think it's great. It's good. DJ Rubbaban: but good is enough. mean, maybe just good wouldn't have been that in the nineties or early two thousands where you had to go buy the album and you sat there and listened to it in your car or your old school, but nowadays you listen to it mostly on your phone. CaddeyB: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, you just streaming it is in your earbuds. It's in you know I mean it's in your course and whatever. Well, how do you listen to your music at? Yeah for sure You don't DJ Rubbaban: I listened to Eric Sermon album twice all the way and fell asleep on it. And another great album that I really liked this year was ⁓ Public Enemies last album they put out. And I liked the direction they went. I liked that it's still their signature sound, but newer. CaddeyB: Mm-hmm. The Public Enemy one or the Chuck D one? DJ Rubbaban: nah, the public enemy one. Like it was like him and Chuck. mean, even Flavve got a song on there, like, but I'm a fan, you know, definitely, you know, come from that school, you know, ⁓ you know what I mean? And so. CaddeyB: Yeah, no. Like I said before, I don't think any of the old head albums that have came out in the last year, year and a half, I don't think any of them were really bad. I think they all were good. I think they all had their place and they're all still legends. DJ Rubbaban: Right, right. But. CaddeyB: they don't have that machine behind them to push them and be like, ⁓ here you go. DJ Rubbaban: Now you getting ready to go and go handle your business. What's the last old school album that you put on? Like when you get in the car with your girl, what you gonna put on when you get in the car? What could you put on? Would you bump Brandy or Brandy or Monica? Cause they on tour right now. ⁓ you don't even listen to R &B. ⁓ I'm trying to close it out and I'm opening up a whole nother thing. CaddeyB: like, ⁓ I Listen to R &B like I mean, you know like like the october like the October London and stuff like that We all have it No, we ⁓ usually usually it's gonna be like some EPMD or something like or some EDM or something like that Yeah, I mean it's gonna be something it's usually on serious it's usually EDM or some rock the bells DJ Rubbaban: Some woman hurt you, I think some woman hurt you. I think a woman hurt you in the 2000s or the 90s. Right. No. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. I gotta talk to your wifey. I'm gonna have a conversation. She's gonna be real direct with me and just tell me whatever, but I'ma still push the line. I'm pushing the line. Look, you let her know I'm pushing the line when I see her. She's gonna be like, okay, I'ma put him in check. hey, shout out to folks. we gonna close it out. Yeah, yeah. We gonna close it out, but our next show coming up real soon, ⁓ we talking about ⁓ music that... CaddeyB: Eish. You always catch her when she's getting ready or something, but you gonna catch her one time when she gonna be up and she gonna just... DJ Rubbaban: that was in our homes, music our mothers liked ⁓ and how it affected us and what it meant. ⁓ so be on the lookout for that one. Just music our moms like. CaddeyB: What's the, so before we close it out, what's the one song that can come on that your mom used to play that actually like, like it makes you want to like stop what you're doing or like it makes you want to like maybe tear up or like bring back like an emotional feeling. One song, just one. DJ Rubbaban: You For me, probably May's joy and pain. And I say that May's joy and pain because I say, my mom, we didn't have the best relationship, but I definitely feel like my musical beginnings, she contributed to it. And whenever she put May's on, it was just. CaddeyB: hard to listen to. DJ Rubbaban: She just, she would just go, her whole vibe would change. So when I listen to Joy and Pain, it connects me to Houston. It connects me to South Central. It connects me to Compton, Watts, Inglewood, like everything, like Joy and Pain and the lyrics to that. it's not worldwide. It's no one culture. Like that song is like, everybody has experienced joy and pain. joy and was crazy about my mama with all her swagger, all her South centralness. She loves James Taylor. So I grew up loving James Taylor and I didn't even know he was technically folk kinda, you know, so she could go from A's and Frankie Beverly to James Taylor. And I'm like, damn, shower, shower the people with love. I was like, damn. CaddeyB: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, yeah. DJ Rubbaban: I didn't even know that was on some white stuff. You know what I mean? Because music brings everybody, well, it should. It should. So. CaddeyB: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It do. It do. See, that next episode, y'all gonna... See, that was just a little taste of the next episode. Y'all gonna come back. DJ Rubbaban: You ain't gonna throw me one? Look, you ain't gonna throw me one for moms? Cause I know moms. Look, you ain't gonna throw me one? Just one. CaddeyB: So after my mom's passed, we were watching some movie, can't remember what it was. And Dolly Parton, Jolene came on. I just... You know what I mean? Because she used to just sing that at the top of her lungs, you know what I mean? So that was probably that one, like one of those ones. Like she used to love that... Oh yeah, yeah. DJ Rubbaban: Hoo, hoo, yeah. Yeah. Music is powerful. Caddy, music is powerful. And that's why one of the things of us doing this show, talking about music and how it intertwines with everything that it's, you know, it should be, and maybe it is elevating. Maybe it's okay that we say certain stuff is not fed into right, or it's not as quality, or they make songs a minute and 28 seconds and not four or three and a half anymore. Maybe that's okay for right now. You know what mean? Maybe we couldn't have a Marvin Gaye right now with our current ⁓ political parties right now. Maybe if we had a Marvin Gaye, maybe they would have killed them right now. You know what mean? Like maybe it's not to be televised. CaddeyB: Yeah. DJ Rubbaban: Ooh. So shout out to Jolene, shout out to moms, both moms. We getting up out of here, y'all. We gonna get caddy another day and then we gonna, it's gonna be our sensitive chapter. It's gonna be our sensitive one. It's gonna be, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's gonna be, I'm getting off, I'm getting off. CaddeyB: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to have some Kleenex. ⁓ DJ Rubbaban: Peace y'all.