Latest / Crime Stories with Nancy Grace / Son tells Mom he's headed home, never seen again. Where is 22-year-old William Brian McKenzie, Jr.?
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I know a lot of
- 0:12Speaker 1: you listening right now have children, have grandchildren, maybe nieces
- 0:17Speaker 1: or nephews. Can you imagine pouring all your love, all
- 0:24Speaker 1: your time, all your energy, your thoughts into your child,
- 0:31Speaker 1: and then suddenly your child goes missing. You have hopes
- 0:37Speaker 1: for them. I have hopes for John, David and Lucy
- 0:40Speaker 1: that I can get them through high school and get
- 0:42Speaker 1: them into a good college so their life will be
- 0:47Speaker 1: easier than mine and my parents' life. I just devote
- 0:51Speaker 1: all that love and time and energy into them, and
- 0:55Speaker 1: then suddenly they don't come home. Ever, I have no
- 1:01Speaker 1: idea what happened to them. Right now, I am focusing
- 1:06Speaker 1: on a young Tennessee man just scrubbed in sunshine. Brian McKenzie.
- 1:22Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. I'm Nancy Grace. This is
- 1:32Speaker 1: Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us here on
- 1:35Speaker 1: Fox Nation and Sirius XM one eleven. Let's kick it
- 1:40Speaker 1: off with sound from our friends at w nb J,
- 1:43Speaker 1: NBC thirty nine. This is reporter Camilla Ruda. My son
- 1:47Speaker 1: is out there somewhere. My son is and it's already
- 1:52Speaker 1: been this many days, six days now, twenty one year
- 1:57Speaker 1: old William Brian Mackenzie was last on Friday, September twenty seventh.
- 2:02Speaker 1: He left work, stopped by a friend's house and called
- 2:06Speaker 1: his mom to tell her he was on his way home.
- 2:09Speaker 1: He was like, yes, Mom, Yes, I'm going to be home.
- 2:11Speaker 1: I'm on my way home. But Mackenzie never got home
- 2:15Speaker 1: that night. His mom says, his bed hasn't been slept,
- 2:18Speaker 1: in his charger, his clothes and everything looks exactly the
- 2:22Speaker 1: same as the last time she saw him, and that's
- 2:25Speaker 1: how she knows he hasn't been home yet. His mom,
- 2:28Speaker 1: Francis Gaines, says, even though he did not make it
- 2:31Speaker 1: home that night, she still expected to see him at
- 2:34Speaker 1: work at the Denny's on sand Pebble Drive the next day.
- 2:37Speaker 1: That just breaks my heart. That his room, his charger,
- 2:40Speaker 1: his everything is still sitting there exactly the way it
- 2:44Speaker 1: was when he was expected home that night. And how
- 2:47Speaker 1: many times it's typically My son John David called said mom, Mom,
- 2:52Speaker 1: give me ten more minutes, Give me ten more minutes.
- 2:55Speaker 1: That's what this sounds like. With me, an all start
- 2:59Speaker 1: panel to figure out as best as we can what happened.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Nicole Parton with me Crime online dot Com investigative reporter,
- 3:07Speaker 1: renowned New York psychologists joining us out of Manhattan. Karen
- 3:11Speaker 1: start at Karenstark dot com. Former FBI special agent, Jeff Cortes,
- 3:17Speaker 1: Ashe Wilcott judge, trial lawyer, anchor at Court TV at
- 3:21Speaker 1: Ashe Wilcott dot com. Ricky d Alexander from Tennessee, missing
- 3:27Speaker 1: and unsolved and joining me right now is a very
- 3:31Speaker 1: special guest, Francis Gaines. This is Brian McKenzie's mom, Miss Gaines.
- 3:40Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. You're welcome. Thank you
- 3:43Speaker 1: for having me, Miss Gaines. I want to start with
- 3:46Speaker 1: the day before Brian William Brian McKenzie goes missing. That
- 3:54Speaker 1: day that morning, was it like every other day or morning? Well,
- 4:01Speaker 1: he worked and I didn't go to work because I
- 4:05Speaker 1: was going through an emotional stage because I was losing
- 4:08Speaker 1: someone very close to my heart. She was in California
- 4:12Speaker 1: and she was on her deathbed. They were going to
- 4:15Speaker 1: be pulling the plug, but they weren't sure when, so
- 4:18Speaker 1: I was pretty devastated about that. It was his godmother.
- 4:21Speaker 1: She had heard Patricia, she's a godmother of my first
- 4:27Speaker 1: three children, and I just I couldn't focus at work,
- 4:32Speaker 1: and they didn't know what was going on there. Let
- 4:35Speaker 1: me let me understand, Francis you stayed home. Where did
- 4:39Speaker 1: you work at the time? At the time when we worked,
- 4:41Speaker 1: I was recruited to start at Danny's. Okay, So you
- 4:44Speaker 1: were both at Danny's. Yes, And he also worked at Danny's. Yes.
- 4:49Speaker 1: I recruited him from from IHAB Okay, so you guys
- 4:53Speaker 1: both are working at Danny's. He goes in that day, correct, Yes,
- 4:58Speaker 1: and you're at home? Is that correct? Yes? As far
- 5:01Speaker 1: as it relates to your son, Brian, was anything out
- 5:06Speaker 1: of the ordinary that day? Was he upset? Was he
- 5:10Speaker 1: getting odd phone calls or text Was anything wrong before
- 5:13Speaker 1: he went to work? No, everything seemed to be fine,
- 5:18Speaker 1: even on the day before. He was with that same
- 5:21Speaker 1: boy that he was on his porch with because they
- 5:24Speaker 1: had text me and let me know. So was that
- 5:29Speaker 1: his regular routine, Miss Gains, that he would text you
- 5:33Speaker 1: if he was going to be late or he was
- 5:35Speaker 1: going somewhere. Okay? Did he live with you? Yes? Okay?
- 5:39Speaker 1: Who else lived in the home? All his siblings, my
- 5:42Speaker 1: husband and I. So that would be how many people,
- 5:45Speaker 1: loving people altogether? Okay, that's a lot of people in
- 5:50Speaker 1: one home. Yea. So let me understand something. You stay home,
- 5:55Speaker 1: he goes to work. What time did he go to
- 5:58Speaker 1: work at Denny's that day? Okay, he always goes in
- 6:01Speaker 1: at eight o'clock in the morning, that's the schedule time.
- 6:04Speaker 1: He clocked in at eight o two. I watched him
- 6:07Speaker 1: as I viewed the cameras because I had access to
- 6:09Speaker 1: do all of that. That was just determined to find
- 6:12Speaker 1: out where my son was. So UM, I viewed the
- 6:15Speaker 1: cameras of him clocking in at eight o two. Okad
- 6:17Speaker 1: of hold on, wait a minute, wait a minute, who
- 6:18Speaker 1: wa white? White? White? He goes in that morning? Had
- 6:22Speaker 1: he been home the night before? Yes, he was. He
- 6:25Speaker 1: was there the night before. He goes into work as
- 6:28Speaker 1: normal eight o two. When did you next hear from? Um?
- 6:31Speaker 1: The last I heard from him was that day on
- 6:36Speaker 1: the twenty six, saying that he was going to be home.
- 6:41Speaker 1: It was snapshot his phone record, UM five thirty five.
- 6:47Speaker 1: So around five thirty in the afternoon when he gets
- 6:51Speaker 1: off of Danny's. Is that correct? He got off of
- 6:55Speaker 1: work at Danny's at three three thirty ish or so,
- 7:00Speaker 1: and he headed over to his friend's house. According to
- 7:04Speaker 1: what the detectives say, that he pumped gas. We're affiliated
- 7:08Speaker 1: with Pilot gas stations, so he pumped gas with them
- 7:12Speaker 1: in the parking lot. And he drove across from our
- 7:15Speaker 1: parking lot to Speedway parking lot. And he said, they
- 7:18Speaker 1: said they don't see that he got out of his car,
- 7:21Speaker 1: but that he stopped for a minute and then he
- 7:23Speaker 1: drove back out the way that he drove in the
- 7:27Speaker 1: parking lot. Let me go to Jeff Cortez, a former
- 7:29Speaker 1: FBI special agent. I know that these details may not
- 7:34Speaker 1: matter to a lot of people, but when you have
- 7:37Speaker 1: a missing person, every detail matters. Why is that, Jeff, Yeah,
- 7:42Speaker 1: every detail absolutely matters. What it does is it's going
- 7:45Speaker 1: to give us an idea of particularly the missing person's situation.
- 7:50Speaker 1: It could be last direction of travel. It could provide
- 7:53Speaker 1: us with opportunities for identifying video surveillance equipment, identifying potential witnesses.
- 8:00Speaker 1: Is it could do us a sense of the state
- 8:01Speaker 1: of mind of the person prior to disappearing. It is,
- 8:07Speaker 1: you know, we're going to start at the last known location,
- 8:09Speaker 1: so we want to get as far down that path
- 8:11Speaker 1: as we possibly can. Right So, right now I've got
- 8:15Speaker 1: him getting off or work around three. He kind of
- 8:18Speaker 1: skirted across the gap the parking lot, got gas and
- 8:23Speaker 1: then we can tell which direction he headed from the
- 8:25Speaker 1: gas station. Then he either texts that are called his mother.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Francis gains with us right now around five thirty in
- 8:33Speaker 1: the afternoon. And what did he say? What was the
- 8:37Speaker 1: gist of it, Francis, He said he was going to
- 8:40Speaker 1: be home. The conversation that he had his last known
- 8:48Speaker 1: place per se it was at the Dollar three. I'm
- 8:54Speaker 1: assuming because they have him on foot walking into the store.
- 9:09Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we are talking about
- 9:14Speaker 1: a missing twenty one year old young man, the apple
- 9:18Speaker 1: of his mother's eye. This young guy, scrubbed in Sunshine,
- 9:24Speaker 1: had left his job that afternoon as scheduled when he
- 9:27Speaker 1: got off of work around three. He contacted his mother
- 9:31Speaker 1: around five thirty that afternoon. Take a listen to our
- 9:35Speaker 1: friends at w NBJ NBC thirty nine. This is reporter
- 9:39Speaker 1: Camill at Ruda. The next morning, Mackenzie was supposed to
- 9:42Speaker 1: be working the same shift as his mom, and when
- 9:44Speaker 1: he didn't show up to work that morning, that's when
- 9:47Speaker 1: she says she really knew something was wrong. The Jackson
- 9:50Speaker 1: Police Department confirms that McKenzie has disappeared under suspicious circumstances,
- 9:55Speaker 1: and his cell phone appears to be inactive. Would the
- 9:59Speaker 1: last call be to his mom? Gaines has spent all
- 10:02Speaker 1: these days searching throughout Jackson. Now she is asking for
- 10:05Speaker 1: the community to help her find her son and keep
- 10:08Speaker 1: a lookout for him. In the car he was last driving.
- 10:12Speaker 1: It's a two thousand and six Jeep, black Jeep Liberty
- 10:16Speaker 1: and it has Star Wars stickers in the back. You
- 10:20Speaker 1: know that detail is so important, the fact that there
- 10:24Speaker 1: were Star Wars stickers on the back. I'm gonna go
- 10:27Speaker 1: to Ricky d Alexander Special Guests joining us from Tennessee.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Missing and unsolved. So often, Ricky, I have investigated, prosecuted
- 10:36Speaker 1: and covered cases where a bumper sticker or a scratch
- 10:42Speaker 1: along the side of the car. We just saw that
- 10:44Speaker 1: emerge in the case of Molly Tibbitts. As you recall,
- 10:48Speaker 1: the young woman who was out jogging and disappeared off
- 10:51Speaker 1: the face of the earth. Well. Police were looking at
- 10:54Speaker 1: home surveillance video and noticed one car going back and
- 10:58Speaker 1: forth along the area where she would have jogged, and
- 11:01Speaker 1: they noticed unusual scrapings or markings along the side of
- 11:06Speaker 1: the car. That's how they found the car. So the
- 11:09Speaker 1: fact that there are Star Wars stickers on the back
- 11:12Speaker 1: of his vehicle, that's important because that sets that vehicle
- 11:16Speaker 1: apart from all other jeeps same same model. Ricky agree
- 11:20Speaker 1: or disagree, absolutely agree. The small details are incredibly key
- 11:26Speaker 1: to any case like this, and people in this lead
- 11:29Speaker 1: they think it's nothing, but it's still small, minute details
- 11:33Speaker 1: that can make or break an entire case. I remember
- 11:36Speaker 1: another case where a young lady goes missing. Her car
- 11:40Speaker 1: is found abandoned in a nearby apartment complex, and the
- 11:44Speaker 1: thing that made people notice it it had had an
- 11:48Speaker 1: advertisement for I think a salon or tanning on the
- 11:53Speaker 1: side of it, and that's where she had worked, and
- 11:57Speaker 1: that was significant. Later it was determined that it had
- 12:00Speaker 1: been removed from the car, which shows her kidnapper planned
- 12:04Speaker 1: for her car not to be spotted. So these are
- 12:06Speaker 1: very critical pizzas of information. I want you to listen
- 12:10Speaker 1: now to WBBJ seven Allie Mason from the twenty seven
- 12:15Speaker 1: to today. It's twelve whole days, almost two weeks and
- 12:18Speaker 1: my Sun's disappeared. No one has heard from William Bryan
- 12:21Speaker 1: McKenzie since September twenty seventh. McKenzie's mother, Francis Gaines, says
- 12:26Speaker 1: she gets more concerned as the days pass, and I
- 12:29Speaker 1: just want to find new I don't want to know
- 12:33Speaker 1: worries at Jackson Police say that McKenzie went to a
- 12:36Speaker 1: friend's house in Madison County after getting off work at
- 12:39Speaker 1: Denny's on sand Pebble Drive that day he went to work.
- 12:44Speaker 1: I taught to him and he say he was on
- 12:45Speaker 1: his way home the next day. I didn't see the
- 12:48Speaker 1: jeep in through the driveway, so I knew something's wrong. Stop.
- 12:51Speaker 1: Like Bryan. He would tell me, Mom, I'm gonna stay somewhere.
- 12:55Speaker 1: Don't worry, because he knows I always worry. You are
- 12:58Speaker 1: hearing the voice of Brian mom Francis Gaines, who is
- 13:01Speaker 1: with us along with Ricky Alexander, Ashley Willcott, Jeff Cortesi,
- 13:06Speaker 1: Karen Stark and Nicole Parton. Back to Miss Gaines. Miss Gaines,
- 13:11Speaker 1: you said he called you at five thirty five and
- 13:13Speaker 1: in a nutshell. Sorry, what did he tell you? Sorry?
- 13:19Speaker 1: This is hardy. I'm trying to stay as strong as
- 13:25Speaker 1: I can on this conversation. It's just like it happened yesterday.
- 13:30Speaker 1: So I'm so sorry. Hearing his voice. I could, I
- 13:33Speaker 1: could just hear his voice right now, just telling me
- 13:36Speaker 1: that it's gonna be okay and he's gonna be home
- 13:40Speaker 1: and don't worry, and it just bothers music. What Why
- 13:45Speaker 1: was he saying don't worry, don't no? I just know
- 13:52Speaker 1: that he didn't shill back up home. Miss Gains. I
- 13:54Speaker 1: am so sorry. I'm so sorry what you're going through.
- 14:01Speaker 1: I just want to help you so much. When he
- 14:05Speaker 1: called you at around five thirty that day after he
- 14:08Speaker 1: got off of Danny's, where did he say he was going?
- 14:12Speaker 1: He didn't tell me where he was going. He just
- 14:15Speaker 1: told me where he was coming. You know, he was
- 14:18Speaker 1: going to come home. And I mean, I guess I
- 14:22Speaker 1: was just so rubbled in my own depression that I
- 14:26Speaker 1: didn't say where exactly are you right now? Brian? You know,
- 14:29Speaker 1: I just I was just I wanted him to come home,
- 14:34Speaker 1: because it's like we're just inseparable. My son is my
- 14:39Speaker 1: best friend, he's my rock. He always encouraged me, you know,
- 14:43Speaker 1: when I'd be at work and it was so frustrating
- 14:45Speaker 1: and stressful, stressful environment. Mom, You got this, you know,
- 14:49Speaker 1: don't worry about it, have you? He's just really a
- 14:52Speaker 1: good boy. He's good and I know people saying, oh,
- 14:55Speaker 1: he's twenty two years old, what's she talking about. He's
- 14:58Speaker 1: just he's a man. My children, no matter how old
- 15:02Speaker 1: they are, they're always my babies. And there's something special
- 15:06Speaker 1: about Brian, and I do believe that he was. His
- 15:11Speaker 1: main focus was to get home. I don't know what happened.
- 15:14Speaker 1: I don't know what went from there. Let me try
- 15:18Speaker 1: to figure out at that point he called to you.
- 15:24Speaker 1: Let's try to get a description, Jackie. Let's hear w
- 15:29Speaker 1: BBJ seven News again, this is Ali Mason. Listen from
- 15:33Speaker 1: the twenty seven to today. It's twelve whole days, almost
- 15:36Speaker 1: two weeks, and my son's disappeared. No One. McKenzie was
- 15:40Speaker 1: last seen wearing his black Denny's uniform. He's six one
- 15:43Speaker 1: and weighs around one hundred and eighty pounds. Police say
- 15:46Speaker 1: his cell phone has been turned off. I wish these
- 15:49Speaker 1: people would just understand if something happened, if something was wrong,
- 15:52Speaker 1: you know, they should just have came forth to begin with.
- 15:58Speaker 1: McKenzie was last known to be driving a black Jeep
- 16:01Speaker 1: Liberty with Star Wars stickers on the back windshield. The
- 16:04Speaker 1: license plate number is three L six sixty seven and
- 16:08Speaker 1: the back bumper is also denned on the left side.
- 16:11Speaker 1: Ganes says she just wants her son home so much.
- 16:19Speaker 1: I just want him to come home. We are also
- 16:22Speaker 1: learning that after he left work, he apparently stopped by
- 16:27Speaker 1: a friend's home. To Nicole parton Crime online dot Com
- 16:31Speaker 1: investigative reporter Nicole, what do we know about him stopping
- 16:36Speaker 1: at a friend's home? We know that after he pumped gas,
- 16:40Speaker 1: he went to his friend's house. This again not a
- 16:43Speaker 1: very uncommon thing. He had been known to frequent his
- 16:46Speaker 1: friend's house. How do we know that? How do we
- 16:48Speaker 1: know he stopped there? He apparently witnesses saw him there.
- 16:53Speaker 1: There were text messages exchanged, and he was at that location.
- 16:57Speaker 1: And the witnesses and the friends say he was there.
- 16:59Speaker 1: They were out on the porch, they were talking. They
- 17:01Speaker 1: were visiting something that he did quite often, go over
- 17:04Speaker 1: to this particular friend's house and visit with the guys there.
- 17:06Speaker 1: Let me ask Ricky d Alexander from Tennessee, Missigan, and
- 17:09Speaker 1: solved how far away was the friend's home from his
- 17:14Speaker 1: mom's home, from Francis's house to the friend's house. It's
- 17:19Speaker 1: probably give or take about three three and a half
- 17:23Speaker 1: miles from Denny's, not far from Denny's where Brian left from.
- 17:28Speaker 1: It's maybe maybe a mile at the most north from
- 17:33Speaker 1: his life location. Wow to Jeff Cortesi, former FBI special agent.
- 17:39Speaker 1: So all of this happens and about a five mile
- 17:43Speaker 1: radius or less. Denny's is three miles away. Ish, it's
- 17:47Speaker 1: like a triangle Denny's, the friend's home, the mom's home
- 17:52Speaker 1: where Brian lives, and we can't find him. I find
- 17:56Speaker 1: that really hard to take in. Yeah, that's a remarkably
- 18:01Speaker 1: small area that we're working working with. You know, Unfortunately
- 18:06Speaker 1: a lot goes into you know, the search first particular
- 18:10Speaker 1: individuals when they go missing and the time that lapses
- 18:13Speaker 1: between the time that they were last identified and the
- 18:16Speaker 1: appointment which you are able to start looking for them.
- 18:19Speaker 1: A lot can happen in that time frame, a lot
- 18:21Speaker 1: of travel can be done in that time frame, and
- 18:24Speaker 1: so that that's one of the issues in when somebody
- 18:28Speaker 1: is missing, reporting as quickly as possible. Salon Porce, get
- 18:30Speaker 1: on it as quickly as possible, right right, guys, I
- 18:35Speaker 1: want you to take a listen to our friends. W
- 18:38Speaker 1: B Jay This is cut five. Jackie this is Stephanie Fernandez.
- 18:42Speaker 1: The Jackson Police Department says William Brian McKenzie went to
- 18:45Speaker 1: a friend's house in Madison County after getting off at
- 18:48Speaker 1: work at Denny's, and since that day, no one has
- 18:51Speaker 1: heard or seen McKenzie. Since September twenty seventh, a mother
- 18:56Speaker 1: is desperately trying to find her twenty one year old son,
- 18:59Speaker 1: who who has been missing since September. William Brian McKenzie's mother,
- 19:03Speaker 1: Francis Gaines, says she is desperate and will not stop
- 19:07Speaker 1: until she gets answers on her son's disappearance. We're searching
- 19:12Speaker 1: endlessly for my son, and it's coming overwhelming to just
- 19:19Speaker 1: search once or twice a week. I wish you I
- 19:22Speaker 1: could search every single day. One of the volunteers, Thomas Curry,
- 19:25Speaker 1: who is assisting in the search for McKenzie, says he
- 19:28Speaker 1: can relate to gains after his son, Thomas Curry Junior,
- 19:31Speaker 1: was shot and killed on October fourth, twenty nineteen. I'm
- 19:35Speaker 1: here to Branson, closer to Francis gain and I have
- 19:39Speaker 1: my closure. I buried my child. I think about my
- 19:42Speaker 1: son every day, every day, every day joining me is
- 19:46Speaker 1: Brian's mom. Francis. Francis, what can you tell me about
- 19:49Speaker 1: the friend? Where he stopped and they were sitting on
- 19:52Speaker 1: the porch with other friends talking. Who is the friend?
- 19:56Speaker 1: What do we know about the friend? Well? I can
- 20:00Speaker 1: say that I employed him at IHAP. He was a
- 20:04Speaker 1: third shift server there at IHAPS and he asked for
- 20:08Speaker 1: a job and I he wasn't there at Denny's too
- 20:11Speaker 1: long before he met my son and they became friends.
- 20:17Speaker 1: So he and my son were very new there at UM.
- 20:21Speaker 1: At Denny's, Brian was just expected to get his first
- 20:25Speaker 1: check from there, so they weren't like long time friends.
- 20:28Speaker 1: Even when they were at IHAWP, they never really met
- 20:30Speaker 1: because he was a third shift server, but Sean spent
- 20:35Speaker 1: more time at Denny's when I was shortt server, So
- 20:39Speaker 1: they I guess, ended up meeting and becoming friends. Okay,
- 20:42Speaker 1: so they met at Denny's. Yes, they had not been
- 20:45Speaker 1: friends for long. No, did he often stop at the
- 20:49Speaker 1: friend's house on the way home? Was that normal? From
- 20:52Speaker 1: from what I know, I don't know what his relationship
- 20:58Speaker 1: was with Sean. I just know that they had became friends.
- 21:01Speaker 1: Have you ever stopped there before after work? I wouldn't
- 21:04Speaker 1: be able to tell you everywhere he went after work.
- 21:07Speaker 1: I just know usually I would come, he would come home. Okay,
- 21:11Speaker 1: got it. I'm just trying to figure out if the
- 21:14Speaker 1: visit to the friends home was out of the ordinary too,
- 21:18Speaker 1: Ricky d Alexander Tennessee, missing and unsolved. Do we have
- 21:21Speaker 1: any information about when or if he left the friends home?
- 21:26Speaker 1: From what we have gathered, it wasn't a very very
- 21:30Speaker 1: long visit. You know that it was anas hot day,
- 21:34Speaker 1: Brin stopped after work. No, they just visited, talked, and
- 21:39Speaker 1: I mean it really wasn't anything out of the ordinary.
- 21:43Speaker 1: Broun is a very trusting guy. Okay, That's what I'm
- 21:46Speaker 1: trying to get at. So that was normal for him
- 21:49Speaker 1: to stop off and talk. Do we have information, Ricky,
- 21:54Speaker 1: that he left the friends home? We do? We do?
- 22:00Speaker 1: All right, That's all I needed to hear. He we
- 22:02Speaker 1: We've got him from there, So now we should be
- 22:05Speaker 1: around Francis. When he called you, had he left at
- 22:10Speaker 1: home or not? I believe so I'm I'm home. I'm
- 22:13Speaker 1: thinking that he did. I just know that he we spoke.
- 22:19Speaker 1: It was a call to me and we lasted forty
- 22:22Speaker 1: one second. Okay, Ricky, Alexander, do we know where he
- 22:25Speaker 1: went next. We know at some point after he left
- 22:29Speaker 1: Shaun's house, he stopped at the Dollar Tree, which is
- 22:33Speaker 1: close to Denny's, and that's where um. They suspect that
- 22:38Speaker 1: the phone call to Francis was made around that. Did
- 22:45Speaker 1: he buy anything at the Dollar Tree? Ricky, No, he
- 22:48Speaker 1: just withdrew twenty dollars from his debit corps. We got
- 22:52Speaker 1: cash back, so we know that he was there. We
- 22:55Speaker 1: have a receipt for that. What time was that, Ricky?
- 22:58Speaker 1: Do you know I wouldn't become fable saying I know
- 23:01Speaker 1: it was rot around. We know the phone call was
- 23:05Speaker 1: around five thirty, so that places him at Dollar Tree
- 23:08Speaker 1: around five thirty. Nicole Pardon, Crime online dot Com investigative reporter.
- 23:12Speaker 1: Do we know his movement after that? We don't. That
- 23:15Speaker 1: phone call to mom around five thirty was the very
- 23:18Speaker 1: last of anything that we know. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,
- 23:38Speaker 1: we were talking about a missing young man just twenty
- 23:42Speaker 1: one years old. If you have information, dial seven three
- 23:45Speaker 1: one four two five eighty four hundred. His mother is
- 23:49Speaker 1: desperate for help. If you want to see his photo,
- 23:52Speaker 1: go to crime online dot Com read his movements, see
- 23:57Speaker 1: his photo. We need help finding this young man. We
- 24:03Speaker 1: know he was there at the dollar Tree getting twenty bucks.
- 24:06Speaker 1: How many of us have done that after that? We
- 24:09Speaker 1: don't know. Question how difficult would it be or do
- 24:13Speaker 1: you know, Ashley will cut Let me ask you. It's
- 24:17Speaker 1: not terribly difficult if your phone is on and we
- 24:20Speaker 1: know his phone was on to trace the movements, is it, Ashley? No,
- 24:24Speaker 1: it's not. And that's one of the things I was
- 24:26Speaker 1: gonna say, is the phone to me is key in
- 24:29Speaker 1: this and law enforcement math to subpoena records. But that phone,
- 24:35Speaker 1: even not physically having the phone, can tell people's law
- 24:39Speaker 1: enforcement specifically so much about his actions, where he is right,
- 24:44Speaker 1: who he's calling, who he's texting to Karen start North
- 24:47Speaker 1: psychologists joining us. Part of the conundrum is that he
- 24:51Speaker 1: seemed perfectly normal when he was speaking to his mom
- 24:54Speaker 1: at five thirty when he made that ATM withdrawal, nothing
- 24:57Speaker 1: seemed to be wrong. He said, I'll be home in
- 24:58Speaker 1: a little while, tells me nanties that whatever happened, it
- 25:03Speaker 1: seems that it must have happened after he made that
- 25:06Speaker 1: phone call. And yeah, unless what I'm saying, there was
- 25:10Speaker 1: no threat or no problem at five thirty two, Francis.
- 25:15Speaker 1: What time does he normally get home at night? He's
- 25:17Speaker 1: here usually in the afternoon. He sits here and he
- 25:19Speaker 1: plays his video game like cook him make dinner, serve
- 25:23Speaker 1: on this plate. It's the normal routine. He comes straight
- 25:25Speaker 1: home from work or so. That night he calls you
- 25:29Speaker 1: at five thirties getting twenty bucks. You never hear from
- 25:31Speaker 1: him again? When did you start trying to call him
- 25:35Speaker 1: right after that? My calls were continuous. I just I
- 25:39Speaker 1: needed to hear his voice. I needed to know, you know,
- 25:43Speaker 1: where he was at. And it looks pretty weird when
- 25:46Speaker 1: you look at his call out because I just felt,
- 25:49Speaker 1: you know, something's wrong. I had texted him actually that
- 25:53Speaker 1: day and said, if you're out and about, can you
- 25:55Speaker 1: stop at cook out and get me an a one
- 25:57Speaker 1: burger or chili fives or something. And I noticed that
- 26:00Speaker 1: when I woke up there was no response to that.
- 26:03Speaker 1: And what time was that? It was the evening. And
- 26:07Speaker 1: I can tell you I'm looking at his phone log
- 26:10Speaker 1: right now, the twenty seventh, at eight o eight pm,
- 26:14Speaker 1: buying Canny, get me food. I'm hungry, you know, I
- 26:17Speaker 1: just did you say eight pm? Eight o eight pm? Okay?
- 26:21Speaker 1: Stop there it is there. It is right there. That's
- 26:24Speaker 1: the timeline. By eight pm, something had already happened. He
- 26:31Speaker 1: is alive and well at five thirty an atm at
- 26:35Speaker 1: eight pm, two and a half hours later, he's no
- 26:40Speaker 1: longer responding to text now right. Some people don't respond
- 26:43Speaker 1: to text till a day later. But this young man
- 26:47Speaker 1: always responded directly to his mother always. So I now
- 26:53Speaker 1: have a timeline time stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we
- 27:12Speaker 1: were talking about the disappearance of William Brian mackenzie. Okay,
- 27:16Speaker 1: I've got a timeline. Let's talk about that to Ricky Alexander.
- 27:23Speaker 1: Do you know something I don't know? Or can you
- 27:25Speaker 1: place that as the time he goes missing, something goes
- 27:28Speaker 1: wrong between five thirty and eight Nancy, we know. Um,
- 27:34Speaker 1: while he was at his friend's house, another a friend
- 27:39Speaker 1: of his friends showed up. Bron had no idea who
- 27:42Speaker 1: this guy was, UM, and he asked Brian for a
- 27:46Speaker 1: rod and UM, you know, Bron, Bron's a very trusting guy.
- 27:52Speaker 1: He's a he's a very good guy. And he agreed,
- 27:54Speaker 1: even though he didn't know the guy, to give him
- 27:57Speaker 1: a rod. Home. Um, after five thirty two, there's there's
- 28:03Speaker 1: no activity um, we don't know anything past five thirty two.
- 28:09Speaker 1: I believe whatever happened to Brian occurred between five thirty
- 28:12Speaker 1: and eight o eight p. And let's talk about the
- 28:15Speaker 1: man he gave to whom he gave a ride. Take
- 28:17Speaker 1: a listen to clant Island w BBJ seven. During the hearing,
- 28:21Speaker 1: Jackson Police Department investigator Joseph Williams read Murphy's statement about
- 28:25Speaker 1: the September twenty fifth shooting that killed Julio Almirez and
- 28:28Speaker 1: injured Joe Ramirez. Investigators say Murphy bought a gun from
- 28:31Speaker 1: Almirez before the shooting, but investigators say after Almeres refused
- 28:39Speaker 1: to drive into Academy Sports to buy more bullets, Murphy
- 28:42Speaker 1: decided to shoot him. Almirez died three weeks later from
- 28:54Speaker 1: his injuries. The second shooting was October fourth, where Murphy
- 28:57Speaker 1: is accused of shooting Thomas Curry and Vincent Regi Jr.
- 29:04Speaker 1: He came with. Investigators say Murphy told Curry he needed
- 29:10Speaker 1: a ride to his girlfriend's house. Please say during that drive,
- 29:13Speaker 1: Murphy shot Curry. I decided Tom I shot him. I
- 29:22Speaker 1: shot him once. Currey died at the scene. Okay, why
- 29:30Speaker 1: do we care about a seemingly unrelated shooting. That was
- 29:35Speaker 1: Jackson Police investigator Joseph William reading statements from a guy
- 29:38Speaker 1: named Keenan Murphy in court detailing the shooting of two
- 29:43Speaker 1: guys two days before Brian goes missing September twenty five,
- 29:48Speaker 1: and a shooting on ten four, and both cases Keenan
- 29:52Speaker 1: Murphy was getting a ride from the victims. I want
- 29:57Speaker 1: you to now take a listen to Miss sing An
- 30:00Speaker 1: America host Jerry Dean. Listen at about five thirty two,
- 30:06Speaker 1: Brian and his mom talking on the phone. He let
- 30:10Speaker 1: Francis know that he was on his way home, he
- 30:12Speaker 1: would be home in the next little bit. And initially,
- 30:17Speaker 1: you know, Francis believed Brian was being that reassurance because
- 30:22Speaker 1: of the situation that was going on. The phone call
- 30:26Speaker 1: is a very very important piece of the puzzle because
- 30:31Speaker 1: the suspect who Brian gave a ride to, and I'm
- 30:35Speaker 1: not going to name any names. The names are out
- 30:37Speaker 1: in the media, but I personally don't want to give
- 30:42Speaker 1: this monster any more credit than what he already has.
- 30:47Speaker 1: This man was able to repeat word for word Brian's
- 30:51Speaker 1: phone call with his mom. What it's so significant. That
- 30:53Speaker 1: means that whoever he gave a ride to is still
- 30:57Speaker 1: with him when he calls his mom Francis at five
- 31:00Speaker 1: thirty two, because he could recount that conversation word for word.
- 31:05Speaker 1: And to Nicole Parton, who did he give the ride? Two?
- 31:10Speaker 1: He gave the ride to a gentleman, twenty one year
- 31:12Speaker 1: old Keenan Murphy. This is the same guy that's the
- 31:16Speaker 1: alleged shooter in the other cases. That's correct. He is
- 31:20Speaker 1: accused of shooting four other men in very similar circumstances
- 31:25Speaker 1: where he had asked them for To Ricky Alexander, what
- 31:29Speaker 1: do you make of it, I think it's very I
- 31:31Speaker 1: think the answers to this entire saga law with Keenan Murphy.
- 31:38Speaker 1: I think Kena knows exactly what happened with Braun. I
- 31:42Speaker 1: think Keena knows where Braun is and you know he
- 31:47Speaker 1: he will no longer cooperate with investigators. And we, I mean,
- 31:52Speaker 1: we are absolutely desperate to know what happened and why.
- 31:57Speaker 1: And uh, you know, Keenan's crimes occurred within a ten
- 32:03Speaker 1: day span. We know spree um. We know Keenan was spiraling.
- 32:09Speaker 1: This This was not I mean, this was completely out
- 32:14Speaker 1: of the normal for Keenan. We know We know something
- 32:18Speaker 1: had to occur in Keenan's loft for him to go
- 32:21Speaker 1: on foot a spiral because from all we know Keenan.
- 32:25Speaker 1: You know, Keenan was a broad kid, and um we
- 32:28Speaker 1: know that Braun absolutely did not know Keenan beforehand, and
- 32:34Speaker 1: umwe just gave him a ride and now he's never
- 32:39Speaker 1: seen again. Absolutely, I want you to take a listen
- 32:41Speaker 1: to our friends at w B B J seven, Clint Island.
- 32:45Speaker 1: I don't want to give up until I find him,
- 32:47Speaker 1: because I know that he would not give up on me.
- 32:50Speaker 1: Francis Gaines is the mother of William Bryan Mackenzie, at
- 32:53Speaker 1: Jackson area man who went missing on September twenty seven,
- 32:56Speaker 1: shortly after leaving work around five thirty at night. On
- 32:59Speaker 1: Sunday morning, a group of nearly thirty people came together
- 33:01Speaker 1: a Northeast middle school to continue the search. He was
- 33:04Speaker 1: last seen in the area of Bermuda Drive and Greenview
- 33:07Speaker 1: off of Christmasfield Road, near the oape Field community in
- 33:11Speaker 1: northeast Masson County. And we know from this area he
- 33:14Speaker 1: would have went to the southwest somehow, or at least
- 33:16Speaker 1: been traveling west to go back on North Island South
- 33:19Speaker 1: so that's kind of the area. That's what brings us
- 33:22Speaker 1: back to this general area. Sergeant Stanfield says they're still
- 33:25Speaker 1: looking for any clues that could help in the investigation.
- 33:28Speaker 1: We have not received any tips since this disappearance in
- 33:31Speaker 1: the initial publication, which is very unusual in a case
- 33:34Speaker 1: like this, so any hell would be greatly appreciated. They
- 33:37Speaker 1: divided into two groups and searched the nearby area, some
- 33:40Speaker 1: on foot, others and cars for his mother to support.
- 33:43Speaker 1: Means the world where's can describe it. There is a
- 33:49Speaker 1: guid I missed my son. To top it all off, guys,
- 33:54Speaker 1: some texts have been being sent to Brian's mom. Transis
- 34:02Speaker 1: what can you tell me about these texts? You're talking
- 34:06Speaker 1: about the ransom and I'll read him. I feel like
- 34:10Speaker 1: I'm just putting you through so much asking these questions.
- 34:13Speaker 1: I'll read them. I know where your son is, but
- 34:15Speaker 1: I won't tell you by selfish bitch, keep the money
- 34:20Speaker 1: for his funeral. I can't read the rest because they're
- 34:23Speaker 1: they're so awful about what is being done, what they
- 34:27Speaker 1: say is being done to your son, about torture and
- 34:31Speaker 1: what they are doing to him. Rickie Alexander, who was
- 34:34Speaker 1: sending her these horrible texts. We know that the phone
- 34:38Speaker 1: number these texts are coming from is registered to some
- 34:43Speaker 1: scam organization in South Africa. We spent a lot of
- 34:47Speaker 1: time with the detective. He was able to thoroughly trace it.
- 34:50Speaker 1: This is a part of a new it's very sickening, Nancy,
- 34:54Speaker 1: but it's part of a new modern age scam where
- 34:57Speaker 1: you know they're not calling your typical well social Security recipient.
- 35:01Speaker 1: They're scouring the internet for these families who are absolutely desperate,
- 35:06Speaker 1: just like Francis, and they are. They're scamming them out
- 35:12Speaker 1: of lots of money. They're horrible. Now you can see
- 35:16Speaker 1: his neck is getting wide. It's one of the side
- 35:18Speaker 1: effects of illicit drugs I injected him in him It
- 35:23Speaker 1: chokes a lot and makes air passages difficult. If you
- 35:28Speaker 1: want further proof, you get the effing credit cards now
- 35:31Speaker 1: and I will drive down again and let him, let
- 35:34Speaker 1: you talk to him with my sale number. These are
- 35:37Speaker 1: the texts this mom is getting. This is the pain
- 35:40Speaker 1: that she is enduring. On top of looking for her
- 35:44Speaker 1: missing son. Someone is torturing her with these horrible texts
- 35:51Speaker 1: claiming they have him and they are torturing him, and
- 35:53Speaker 1: she's got a hand over credit cards to hear him
- 35:57Speaker 1: speak to her. It's awful. It's just another scam on
- 36:02Speaker 1: an innocent victim. Guys, if you have information on this
- 36:08Speaker 1: wonderful boy, please help us, Please help Francis. The tipline
- 36:15Speaker 1: is seven three one four two five eight four hundred.
- 36:19Speaker 1: Go to crime online dot com read all the details.
- 36:24Speaker 1: Please let's give her peace and Francis please know that
- 36:31Speaker 1: we are praying. Nancy Grace Crime Story signing off, goodbye friend,