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Episode 7_ SEEK 24 Recap · INSPIRE STORY

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Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome back to the Spire podcast.
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Speaker 2: Today.
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Speaker 1: We are five weeks, four weeks after our last one,
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so it's a bit of a breakup. No idea what
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we're doing. Yeah, today today we'll be talking about Seek.
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We all went on seekh a week and a half
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ago or something like that. It was a week long conference,
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so two weeks ago, week and a half ago, a
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week ago. It was a phenomenal experience I think that
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all of us enjoyed in our different unique ways. And
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we'll just be talking about what we did and how
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it affected us and all of these things.
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Speaker 3: So, and my name's Fulton, and my name is Nick,
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my name is Michael.
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Speaker 4: And you're watching the Spire podcast.
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Speaker 1: Great, and.
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Speaker 2: We'll start with for the Sake of Seek, we'll read
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this scripture that.
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Speaker 4: It is based on. So our whole purpose with this
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podcast is basically to go on this journey of asking,
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seeking and knocking. So this is Matthew seven. Ask and
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it will be given, you, Seek and you will find,
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Knock and it will be open to you. For everyone
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who asks receives, he who seeks finds, and to him
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who knocks it will be opened. Or what man of
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you if his son asks him for bread, will give
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him a stone. Or if he asks for a fish,
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will give him a serpent. If you, then, who are evil,
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know how to give good gifts to your children, how
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much more will your father, who is in heaven, give
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good things to those who ask him. And then another
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one is seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and
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all these things shall be yours as well. Okay, So
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to start us off, what did you guys think about
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the event? How you feel right now? Emotionally, spiritually, more
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like a physically.
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Speaker 1: Thing ordeal, but not like a hard or deal, not
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a bad or deal.
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Speaker 3: An experience, that's the word.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't a singular event that it was five days
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of hunger.
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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay. I will never use the word event
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again to describe that.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm being a pedantic, but it was an amazing
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experience that smart don't understand. I won't be very particular
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about the things I say.
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Speaker 4: What is pedantic.
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Speaker 1: Pedantic is like being pedantic is like being hyper particular
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about what a word exactly means. That's more semantics. But
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I'm being pedantic about that, and that makes no sense.
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I have no idea what I'm talking about I just
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love the word pedantic. It's it's something along the lines
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of being really particular about the meaning of your words.
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Speaker 2: Jordan Peterson, he's pedantic.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, seek I went last year and there was
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great talks last year, and there was great talks this year.
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Completely different experience for some reason. It's just like depending
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on who you're with and the way you interact with
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those around you, it's just a completely different experience. And
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I can get more into that later, I guess, but
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it was just really enjoyable. I grew in faith, hope,
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and love, and I'm determined to become a better Catholic
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through it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd say pretty much all the same stuff.
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Speaker 2: I think. I also went last year. Did you go
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last year?
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Speaker 4: No, this is my first.
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Speaker 3: Years year, so I only hear what you have to
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say it was your first time experiencing it. But yeah,
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a very similar experience to the first time for me
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at least. But I did feel like a lot of
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the talks this year, more so than last year, kind
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of spoke to me and like were more impactful for me.
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I can't recall specific things all the time, but just
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as a whole super impactful. I do think it has
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to do with the people you're with, definitely, but I
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want to hear what you thought about it since it
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was your first time.
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Speaker 4: I think what stood out the most was I think
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really it was being there with friends that I have
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been close with for a long time, because I think
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with those events, you can get those talks anywhere, but
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actually being there in person and seeing someone talk and
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being around a bunch of people that all cheer and
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say yes to the same things, it sort of it
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gives you a better perspective on what's real. And it's
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like you kind of get used to just your community
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that you're used to and you hear the talks and
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you know, like the different words people use. But then
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when you're at an event with a bunch people you've
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never seen before and everyone is there for the same reason,
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it's there's a different energy. I think that goes with it.
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I think there were still talks to me that I
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was talking about this with friends because I was like,
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there are some talks and some speakers that don't really
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do anything for me, not like I'm expecting it to
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do something for me, and like that kind of a
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way it right, And I think it's because what was
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really good about that event is that there was a
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variety of speakers speaking on different topics, and so I
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think it's there was something there for everyone on their
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stage of.
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Speaker 2: The journey, I guess.
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Speaker 4: And so there might have been a talk that someone
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else was like, Wow, that was like exactly what I
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needed to hear. That was speaking to me in a
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special way. I was really enjoyed that it was entertaining
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and engaging, and it was like for me, I couldn't
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really there was like nothing that was like what I
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fulton was looking for, I guess, you know. But then
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there were talks and there were events and times where
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it was like this was like a Okay, this is
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exactly what I needed to hear, and I'm around people
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I know and trust, and it was like really well delivered,
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really well put together. The concert at the end was
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super cool. So it was like a really good experience.
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Speaker 1: Did you see that there was a priest that crowdsurfed.
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I know miss that I had left before this.
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Speaker 2: But Power Bowman was the one who started.
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Speaker 1: In was crowdsurfing, and we got to then they got
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to preet the CrowdSurf.
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Speaker 2: You were crowdsurfing people or you guys were crowds.
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Speaker 3: We weren't crowdsurfing. They're like, well a couple of John
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but John did, yeah, John Trowsky, John his friend.
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Speaker 1: John Johnny don't know.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, different John Seminarium.
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Speaker 1: No, but you have no idea.
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Speaker 3: Yes, people were crowdsurfing, and we were the group that
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would like get them all started.
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Speaker 2: And so Patrick was the guy who.
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Speaker 3: Like went to the priest and he was like, hey,
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can we CrowdSurf you? And then he went all the
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way across. They were dropping everybody and they didn't drop
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the priest though.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he went so far. It's just like spread eagle,
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just like floating down. I'm sad I wasn't there for
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that because concerts are really loud. I left and just
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walked on Mission weigh and bought a couple of books.
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That's my personality.
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Speaker 4: Left You left the concert?
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Speaker 1: Yes, it was loud and there was like people everywhere.
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It's like a mashpit. I don't like that. So I
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just kind of like snuck out, and I don't think
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anyone noticed I left because it was so packed, so loud.
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So I had peace and quiet, talked to some people,
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talked to a cool capucin friar priest guy in mission
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ray and all that. That's the sort of thing. So
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first let's talk a bit about like what's the Seek
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Like it's Catholic conference, but like what do you do there?
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Like what are the things that happened?
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Speaker 2: Good?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we should do that for all of listeners that
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would have no idea what that is.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So seekh is a yearly Catholic conference. It started off
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really small, like twenty five years ago, and it got
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really big this year with you know, twenty thousand people,
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twenty thousand Catholics all worshiping God. It's quite a sight
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to see. But it's basically Monday and Friday a bit
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different just because this last time you get there in
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the evening and leave in the morning. But for the
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actual three main days Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, you get there,
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you go to Mass and you have say, you're at
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Mass with twenty thousand people and a bunch of bishops.
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I've memorized the bishops that were there each day and
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it's insane, not the people, but the number. I don't know,
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all the bishops.
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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I was like, that is so incredible.
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Speaker 1: On Monday, Okay, I'm not that for breakfast. Well, I've
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made notes. So on Monday there were seventeen bishops. On
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Tuesday there were twenty one. On Wednesday there were twenty eight.
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One of them was a cardinal, Cardinal Dolan. Thursday there
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were twenty three, and Friday there were like thirteen or something.
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So twenty eight bishops on Wednesday, twenty eight bishops. That's
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a lot of bishops from all over the country and
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the world. There's a bishop from Ireland there. So anyway,
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there was Mass in the morning. Then you break up
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the men and the women and they go to concurrent sessions.
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They have the keynote to the men and the keynote
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to the women, and there's already a couple of other
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things that you can do because that's for the college section.
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Then lunch and stuff, and then you've got just concurrent sessions.
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There's each hour, you know, at say two o'clock, there's
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seven different talks you could decide to go to, ranging
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of a whole variety of things, and you do that
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a couple of times in the afternoon, and then there's
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a huge keynote after dinner, and then you go home
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or you do the fun stuff that's afterwards. So it's
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a whole it's not like a retreat. It's a conference.
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You go pick to do what you want. There's you know,
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what is it called everything that you can conceive of
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really to do at a Catholic place.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the important thing to remember because I've
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heard a lot of people who said they didn't like it,
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But I think that it's important to remember that it
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is a conference and it's not a retreat, Like it's
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not intended to just be like you go there for
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seven days and it's like silence and you're praying the
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whole time.
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Speaker 1: Like.
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Speaker 3: It is very much a conference kind of experience, and
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there are definitely spiritual moments and there's a lot of
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time for that kind of thing. But I've talked to
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some people who didn't like it for that reason because
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they were expecting kind of the retreat.
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Speaker 2: But that's hard to do with twenty five thousand people.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's crazy. So what was the most impactful part
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for you guys?
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Speaker 4: The number one was my senior James Shay. James Shay's
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talk the first night or Tuesday.
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Speaker 2: So many people love that.
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Speaker 4: That was the best talk I've ever heard ever out
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of any lecture talk that was like amazing.
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Speaker 1: Why was it particularly good?
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Speaker 4: Because I think the number one problem is that we
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don't know what's going on. I think that is at
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the source of every everything, is that we don't know
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what is really going on. And so he retells the
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story and he does it in a very poetic and
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straightforward and clear way, and I've never seen anything like that,
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and I think it's it almost has with it a
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you can feel that there's a power with it. It's
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not just another talk kind of going into this, Like
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we listened to the Scott Han talk.
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Speaker 1: And it was like, yeah, I didn't end up making
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it to that.
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Speaker 4: It was okay, Like my dad loves Scott Han, but
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Scott Han has never really appealed to me because of
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his style and the way that he presents her what
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he's talking about. Not that it's inconsequential, but it's just
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that is not what's hitting my heart at this age.
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And like me and what I'm trying to figure out
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with life, but I think what I needed was like
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the ground layer laid out of like Okay, forget everything,
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this is exactly what's going on, and you can see
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any of these videos again, if you go to screplay
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dot com you can watch these videos. It's the one.
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It's the weight of our brokenness. But in short summary,
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he goes over why I guess, well, you guys can
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maybe help me out with this one.
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Speaker 2: It's sort of.
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Speaker 4: He pinpoints where so much of our anxiety and difficulty
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and pain that we face in life as people is
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rooted back to the fact that there was a fall
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and we were destined for a paradise, and we were
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all destined for communion with God. But when the angels fell,
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they attacked us and we turned, and then ever since
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then we've had a deep wound. And the entire story
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of human salvation is the saving of humanity, which is
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in a sense, the healing of every wound, and every
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person who's born into this life bears that mark that wound,
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and the Christian journey or the journey to fulfillment is
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really just the journey of healing, experiencing healing from Jesus
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and being fully united with Him in a relationship.
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Speaker 2: And that that.
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Speaker 4: Schism that was caused left this pit in our hearts,
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and that's the source of everything painful, negative, evil, heartbreaking,
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it all stems from that, and that the devil is
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using those wounds to tear us further and further away
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from the only source that will ever bring love and peace.
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And the way that he put it was like way
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more eloquent than that.
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Speaker 2: And way more in depth. It was amazing, Like he's
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speaking to you.
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Speaker 1: He sounds like he's speaking in you, like it's kind
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of gold and like it's it's just such an emotional speaker.
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Never trust technology. It fails you each and every time.
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Speaker 2: Technical difficulties. But we're back.
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Speaker 4: So anyway you were saying, Monsignor Shay resonates in you.
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It's not like he's speaking at to you.
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Speaker 1: And so this is a really good speaker. Like that's
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talk for me to not speak too much to me
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because we were talking earlier about like description whatnot. And
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I'm just like, you know, this makes sense, like what
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he's sayings like yea, I don't understand that. It didn't
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really like speak to me emotionally, like it was a
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good talk, but there would have the talks that spoke
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to me more.
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Speaker 2: I think.
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Speaker 3: So it's really interesting because he gave one of the
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Men's Talks in twenty twenty two right or twenty twenty three.
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Speaker 2: Technically, yeah, and that talk didn't.
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Speaker 3: I kind of just was like, yeah, that was just
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like a talk.
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Speaker 2: It was like whatever.
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Speaker 3: But this year it was insane and I felt it
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so much.
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Speaker 2: I think part of the reason all of our stuff
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the devil's attacking are technical setup right.
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Speaker 1: Now, that explains it.
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Speaker 2: There might be some truth to that.
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Speaker 3: Or Trent Horne talk about that all the time. He
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was asking people to pray for him because he was
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having technical difficulties and he felt like the devil was
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attacking him. The same thing right here, the devil's attacking him.
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Speaker 2: But what was I saying?
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Speaker 3: Last year his talk didn't really speak to me at all,
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and this year it did. I think the big guest thing,
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uh was because he was talking about all that stuff
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that you were saying. But then also our generation, so
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probably seventy five plus percent of the people that were there,
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Gen Z is like the most depressed, most anxious, most
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self hating generation ever by essentially every metric that you
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can measure that by. And when I really like, I
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was paying attention from the start, but when I really
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kind of zoned and I was like, this is like
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I'm gonna pay attention to this talk like extra close
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was when he was saying he was telling the story,
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but right as he started, he was kind of saying, like,
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this is the situation that you're in, so maybe it's
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not such a crazy response to be kind of sad
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or to be like, to feel kind of lonely, or to.
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Speaker 2: Feel kind of anxious.
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Speaker 3: And he's because I feel like so many people think,
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especially Christians, like you have this good news at the
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gospel whatever, you have all that good stuff, and so
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you expect everything to just be perfect, and when it's not,
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you kind of freak out.
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Speaker 1: Well almost as shamed by feeling depressed.
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Speaker 3: Or yeah, you're ashamed of the negative feelings because you
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feel like you shouldn't feel them because of what you have,
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Like you have all this good stuff and you.
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Speaker 2: Still feel bad and you're like, well why do I
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feel bad?
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Speaker 3: And then you don't talk about whatever, and that leads
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into a whole other group of things. But I think
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it was really speaking to me like the fact that
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that's just like you didn't choose that.
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Speaker 2: It's not your fault.
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Speaker 3: This is the situation you were put in, so it's
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like it's okay, And it actually makes a lot of
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sense to feel that way.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that leads into.
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Speaker 3: Why you need this and that whole moment was so
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cool and he like saith he was like I'm the
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good Friday Priest and he just stopped and it was
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just dead silent. That was like one of my favorite
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moments in any of the talks.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had the thought that.
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Speaker 4: If you don't know the bad news, you don't know,
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like the good news doesn't matter. Almost appreciate it, right,
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It's like you're supposed to tell everyone the gospel like
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this is the good news.
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Speaker 2: It's like what is it good for I?
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Speaker 4: You know? But I feel like he that's what he did,
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is he draw drew out, like the bad news is
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you're being hunted down. Someone is trying to tear everything
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away from you, and this life is after you. The
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good news is Jesus is there for a reason. He's
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like actually real it stood out.
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Speaker 1: He's just like, oh, but all this depressing stuff and
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then he's like it's really excited and just like screams up.
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But Jesus wins and it's like it's true, It's all awesome.
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And so it was a good talk.
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Speaker 2: So what talk stood out to you then Nick.
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Speaker 1: So the talk that stood out to me most was
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the talk by Father John Ignacious as Roddy. As Roddy,
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he gave one of the keynotes later on.
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Speaker 2: He was a soccer player, right.
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Speaker 1: Yes, no, no, not not the one who gave them
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me in stock.
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Speaker 2: Oh not him? Wait not who was that guy? Father?
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Speaker 1: Something else? There's a lot of priests there, but he
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gave vocation stock And honestly, it was like I hadn't
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really intended on going to that talk. I remember saying, like, oh,
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cool talk about like vocations and what that means. Was like, yeah, sure,
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that sounds interesting. But then there was a different talk
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that I just wanted to go to. I was there
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with a couple of people, but it filled up, and
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so we split up the group that just wanted to
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go to that one talk, and then me and two
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other guys went to this vocation stock with Father Asrati
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and like it's just amazing, like how eloquent he was
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with what vocations truly are. And it's not just like
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a vocation with the priesthood. There's three different types of vocations.
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You have the universal vocation for everyone, and that is
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the call to holiness that is the first and foremost
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vocation of your life. The call to holiness the second vocation.
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Speaker 2: How would you define holiness?
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Speaker 1: Can you do a whole podcast episode on that?
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Speaker 2: In one sentence?
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Speaker 1: Okay, holiness is being who Christ is to others. It
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is letting Christ live in you and live through you.
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Speaker 2: Cool.
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Speaker 1: So there's that primary vocation. Then the second level of
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vocation is the print I forget the name. It's in
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my notes, but I don't want to waste time to
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grab it. But it's basically what we call the big
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v vocation, you know, like, oh, the big v vocation.
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There's two, There's two of these. This is what everyone
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is called to one of these two things in their life,
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the married life or the consecrated life.
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Speaker 2: That's it.
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Speaker 1: And one big thing that he said that I've never
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really heard in a vocation talk before is that a
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single life is not a vocation. It is just who
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you are in the moment. You're not called to the
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single life. Note, consecrated life is not just priests, brothers, sisters.
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There's such a thing as a consecrated single life. But
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that is something. This level of vocation is you commit
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yourself for the rest of your life. To a very
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particular thing, whether or not it be your wife or
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if you're a woman, your husband, whether not it be
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as a priest or as a brother or a sister
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making religious vows. But there's also consecrated single life, and
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so you can have a consecrated single life, but singlehood
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just like, oh I'm single, that's my vocation right now.
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Speaker 2: No, it's not.
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Speaker 1: It's not your vocation right now. It's who you are
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right now. Your vocation is what you're being called to.
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Vocal vocai is the Latin for to call. And then
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the last level of vocation is the particulars which is
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if you call to married life. Who simple and he
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hit did all sorts of other stuff talking about like
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tips and tricks and like how to imagine it.
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Speaker 5: But it was just.
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Speaker 1: Really cool to just hear like what vocations truly are.
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And if you feel like I could be a priest.
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There's two last things we're gonna say, Like if I'm
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gonna I'm kind of want to be priest, but I
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kind of like really like women, and like not like
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in a weird lustful way, but just like I like
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women and it's natural like that that is the natural.
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So the married life is the natural calling every one
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of us man, woman, every priest, every sister, every nun,
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everyone is called naturally to the married life. Married life,
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that is what our bodies are made for. But there
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is a supernatural calling for some to forego this natural
22:43
calling to grow closer to God in a particular way,
22:46
and that is the consecrated life. So that's the one thing.
22:50
And then, oh, shoot, I forgot it. The other one
22:53
was anyway, it's a great talk. It's probably on secreplay
22:56
dot com by now, so you should watch it. And
22:59
that was the most pactful talk for me, Michael.
23:04
Speaker 3: I mean, I honestly think mine was probably the mons one.
23:09
Speaker 2: But why did you already say that he talked about
23:14
like that? Okay, okay, okay, I couldn't remember if that
23:16
was the answer. Yeah. I also though I really like
23:21
I think it's just because.
23:22
Speaker 3: I like the way he talks and I like Australian people,
23:25
but I love Matt Frad. Oh God, it's like impactful
23:29
and like the emotional sense, but it's just like you
23:33
just like get fired up just listening to him.
23:35
Speaker 4: I didn't hear that one.
23:36
Speaker 2: Which one was that? Was that? God? The university and everything.
23:39
Speaker 1: It's a really good talk. It's definitely one of my
23:41
top three from Sikh. I just like him at fred talks,
23:44
Like the way he gives a talk and the way
23:46
he presents himself is exactly how I want to do that,
23:49
Like that's how I want to present myself. He's that
23:51
like intellectual type that I wanted to be, minus the
23:55
cussing that he sometimes has.
23:56
Speaker 3: But he doesn't like if you can, he doesn't. He
24:00
doesn't like hasteful way.
24:01
Speaker 1: He doesn't do it distastefully, like it's not a distasteful thing,
24:04
like oh it actually fits there.
24:06
Speaker 2: But I just wouldn't do that myself.
24:09
Speaker 1: But that was a good talk, and he's he's he
24:12
just really is like make a decision, do act, don't
24:16
just like live your life.
24:19
Speaker 2: You know.
24:21
Speaker 1: That makes no sense.
24:22
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:22
Speaker 3: I think that one was also about because like I
24:26
always literally always talk about I've been sewing to like
24:29
the arguments for gotten stuff, and that one was kind
24:32
of like less focused on the arguments, but it was
24:35
more like the if you exist as a person, like
24:38
these are the questions you should be asking and I
24:41
can't remember all of them. I think it was it
24:44
was like why.
24:44
Speaker 2: Are we here? What are we doing well?
24:47
Speaker 3: Whereas like why is there something instead of nothing?
24:50
Speaker 2: Why are we here? What should we be doing while
24:53
we're here? And where are we going? Or something like that.
24:55
Speaker 1: And his thesis through this was it's like, sure, you
24:59
can explain things scientifically, but like maybe not sufficiently scientifically,
25:04
but there are no good arguments against the existence of God.
25:11
Speaker 3: And they almost came down to like a Pascal's Wager
25:14
kind of thing. Yeah, I'm not like a huge fan
25:16
of that, but but he's like, if you.
25:18
Speaker 1: Can't give me any good reasons against believing in God,
25:21
then I might as well believe in God.
25:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my other favorite one. I think it's
25:27
because I love Australian people so good.
25:32
Speaker 1: Imagine if he was listening to this podcast right now.
25:34
Speaker 2: I wanted to.
25:35
Speaker 3: I just wanted to meet him and just be like
25:37
I was Frid, we've got a podcast.
25:39
Speaker 2: He should come on something.
25:40
Speaker 1: Real big and famous. We've got like ten viewers.
25:43
Speaker 5: He had what's his name, father Weather on this podcast,
25:49
Father Wedder who did spirit life for us the last
25:52
two years and not did it for us, but like
25:53
was there with us the last two years.
25:55
Speaker 1: Was just on Pines of a Queens.
25:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, I still need to listen to it.
25:59
Speaker 1: It was hilaris. It was exactly what you expect from
26:01
fatherway to go around pines of the Quietness, which, yeah,
26:05
he's an amazing guy. Yeah, it was a great podcast.
26:09
But so besides the talks, there was something called Mission Weigh,
26:13
which is this big room full of what's the term booths,
26:21
booths with religious orders, people who make beautiful artistry, and
26:29
everything in between and beyond. What did you guys views
26:32
of Mission Weigh?
26:34
Speaker 3: I think for me it's a little overwhelming, Honestly, I'm
26:37
just I've never been the kind of guy who's like
26:39
super into that. Not overwhelming like a bad sense, just
26:44
like there's so much to do and so many people
26:47
that you could talk to that it's like you don't
26:49
even know like where to go or who to talk
26:51
to kind of thing. So I think it was good
26:53
to have, like I was always with, like you, Pat
26:58
Drew Dominic, like not everybody all at wants, but at
27:02
least like one or two other people, So that was
27:04
really helpful with that.
27:05
Speaker 2: But I think.
27:05
Speaker 3: It it was so cool just being there and just
27:09
seeing because I think that sometimes you kind.
27:12
Speaker 2: Of get this like idea that.
27:16
Speaker 3: At least I know I have in the past that
27:18
like all Catholics are just these super just like straight
27:21
laced people who are just like there to have no
27:24
fun or whatever. And it's really really cool to be
27:27
in Mission Wagh and there's all the fun stuff and
27:29
all the booths and everybody's talking and playing pickleball and
27:32
spikeball and whatever.
27:33
Speaker 1: Including the nuns. Including when I left the concert to
27:38
go just walk around Mission way and talk with this
27:40
Capucian priest. We were just watching just this nun throw
27:46
a football back and forth between someone and the priest.
27:48
Is like, isn't she beautiful?
27:50
Speaker 2: Like she's so strong.
27:50
Speaker 1: I don't know how she does that, Like that woman,
27:52
I don't like that is the praise from a priest
27:56
to a nun of just like acknowledging the true beauty
27:59
of the human us, And like it was just a
28:01
cool experience, Like that's the sort of thing that you
28:02
can get admission to.
28:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, me and.
28:04
Speaker 3: Thomas played spike ball with the priest last year, two
28:07
of them actually, And that's it's so fun just like
28:10
seeing them because like obviously they have their booths and whatever,
28:15
but seeing them just do that stuff, it's like, oh,
28:18
priest is a normal guy too, it's not like they're.
28:20
Speaker 2: Just but seeing everybody in.
28:23
Speaker 3: That context for me, like that whole thing is cool
28:27
and whatever. I don't feel like I explored it as
28:30
much as I could have, but I feel like that
28:34
kind of what's the right way to say it, like
28:38
that heightened my appreciation for the moments that were outside
28:42
of it in a way, because you see all these
28:44
people and they're like having fun and they're just like
28:47
completely normal people, and then you see twenty five thousand
28:52
people get in the stadium and like, uh, last year,
28:56
I remember like the most impactful moment for me. It
28:59
was the first time we were in mass the first
29:02
day and you just see twenty thousand people all make
29:07
the Sign of the Cross, all at the same time,
29:09
and it was just like it was such a big
29:11
moment for me just seeing all these people who were
29:14
there to do what we were talking about in the
29:16
very beginning, which is like seeking, and there's all these
29:19
people coming together who are asking the same questions and
29:22
looking for maybe not the exact same thing that you are, but.
29:27
Speaker 2: I don't know. That whole thing was just so cool
29:30
and mission away. I think.
29:33
Speaker 3: It was in a different way, but it was still
29:35
you see all these people coming together, talking to people,
29:39
asking questions, looking for things.
29:41
Speaker 2: I thought it was really cool, but.
29:43
Speaker 3: Maybe one of you guys explored it more than I could,
29:45
and you could give a better explanation of what it
29:46
actually was.
29:48
Speaker 4: It gives it gives me the same being at those
29:51
because it was like because the whole thing was it
29:56
was put on by Focus and Focused does Catholic youth
29:59
Bible studies at each colleges, at every college where they'll
30:03
have like a couple missionaries and they'll try to recruit
30:07
a bunch of the college kids at that campus and
30:09
then do Bible studies. So then this is like the
30:12
huge gathering where the focus is getting college kids to
30:15
come and then adults can go to and so in
30:17
the mission way there's all these booths that have information
30:21
about different religious orders or missions or whatever it was
30:24
and so like. But it was like not a big aisle.
30:27
Speaker 2: There was like five thous It was just crowded.
30:31
Speaker 4: I don't know how many people there were.
30:33
Speaker 1: You should have left the concert because it was so empty.
30:35
It's still got You should have left concert because it
30:39
was so empty and you could just talk around and it
30:40
was quiet and peaceful.
30:44
Speaker 4: Well, I was in there at one quiet part, which
30:46
was very nice. It was very it was early in
30:47
the morning. I forget what was going on, but I
30:50
got a picture with the Pierre Georgio cut out.
30:53
Speaker 2: Sweet.
30:54
Speaker 4: But when it was packed, it gave me the same
30:57
feeling of being at like a like a you know,
31:01
when you have a fair or something and there's all
31:03
these little booths with like little rocks and pictures and stuff.
31:08
Speaker 2: I really can't pay attention.
31:09
Speaker 4: There's like so many things going on, I can't really focus,
31:12
and so you're just kind of like in a daze,
31:14
it feels like. So we basically just made our round,
31:18
checked it all out, and then it was like, all right,
31:20
let's go do something else. But I think to what
31:24
you're saying about that just getting to see the interactions
31:26
of all the people.
31:27
Speaker 2: It's really cool to see.
31:32
Speaker 4: Religious people mix in with regular people without anybody blinking
31:37
an eye.
31:37
Speaker 2: Really. One of the things that you said about.
31:42
Speaker 4: Your vocation where you are, we're all called to the
31:45
natural marriage, but if you forego that marriage to jump
31:50
to the greater marriage, which is us when we get
31:52
to heaven and in the end with Jesus, there was
31:55
a theology the body talk about that, and Christopher West
31:59
was basically he's saying, framed it in this way which
32:02
I had never thought of before, is that it's the
32:06
only reason people will talk about the vocation to Holy
32:09
Orders as being better or higher is strictly because that
32:13
marriage is better and higher than a human marriage. And
32:16
so I always thought like, oh, if you get like,
32:18
if you're a religious it's like higher than marriage and
32:20
you're better and you know, you did the real hard
32:23
thing in us. You know, the people down here just
32:25
kind of suck. But really it's just they're almost like
32:29
spokespersons for the fact that this marriage isn't the end all,
32:33
be all marriage, but there is a better marriage. And
32:38
he said a sacrifice is only as valuable as what's
32:42
being sacrificed, and so a celibate person is actually pointing
32:45
to the massive value of human marriage. And so I
32:50
think having those people around you all the time is
32:55
super cool. And getting to see like monks walk by
32:57
in like white.
32:58
Speaker 2: Robes and.
33:00
Speaker 1: They were, I don't know what, you over five hundred
33:04
priests there.
33:05
Speaker 3: You feel it in the morning when they're all processing
33:08
in for mass.
33:08
Speaker 1: That was like a fifteen minute long procession.
33:15
Speaker 3: I know, I would just like I convinced myself that
33:18
I was doing it just to pray and focus by
33:20
close my eyes and kind of like lick down my
33:22
head and then I look up and I'd be like, oh,
33:24
my gosh, you're still like, oh.
33:26
Speaker 1: I see a bishop's hat now, so we're getting close
33:28
to the end, but then there's still like freaking a
33:30
thousand bishops.
33:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, those processions were something else.
33:34
Speaker 1: They were beautiful.
33:35
Speaker 4: We didn't go to any of the masses there because
33:37
we just knew so long we went to the cathedral.
33:40
Speaker 1: Oh you went, oh okay, yeah cool, Yeah, well you
33:46
missed out on a lot of bishops. It was quite something.
33:50
Speaker 2: Probably a lot of people.
33:51
Speaker 1: There was a lot of people.
33:52
Speaker 3: Honestly though, like you would think, the only part of
33:55
it for me that really felt long was the procession. Yeah,
33:58
because like it's crazy how effectively they like do communion
34:02
and everything.
34:02
Speaker 1: They had that down to a pat There were like
34:05
forty different communion stations, and at each station they had
34:10
a seminary and because they're just that many seminarians directing
34:13
people's like you go down here now and then you'll
34:15
come up doing all of that. They had when the
34:19
priests received because they all were concelebrating the mass, hundreds
34:23
of priests. After they con celebrated, then part of the ceremony,
34:28
part of the thing of it is they ingest Jesus.
34:33
And so you just see the priests all going up
34:35
to receive Jesus and then they grab a patent or
34:38
a seborium and a seminarian just like follow me. And
34:41
then the priest just has no idea where he's going.
34:43
I bet you he has no idea, but the seminarians like,
34:44
we're going over here, and so he just follows. The
34:46
seminarian plants down and hundreds thousands of people start receiving communion,
34:51
and it's very quick.
34:53
Speaker 2: It's very efficient. It was cool interesting.
34:56
Speaker 1: It was difficult to kneel in those pews that.
35:00
Speaker 2: For you, that was probably tough. Your feet were touching,
35:03
for sure. It was so funny though we had this.
35:06
We had one of our friends with us.
35:07
Speaker 4: His name was Max, and this was so Dollin got
35:12
sick like the second day and him and Max and
35:16
we were there was like ten of us piled in
35:18
this minivan for the whole thing, and so him and
35:20
Max were in the trunk the whole time, and Max
35:23
so ended up getting sick too. And so this was
35:25
right on the start of when he started getting sick,
35:27
was Adoration night, and so we're there for adoration, you know,
35:31
and so like we're.
35:31
Speaker 2: All kneeling up.
35:32
Speaker 4: And then he had just like ten fifteen minutes in
35:35
you like sit down, You're like all right, and then
35:37
but Max, I noticed like he was kneeling for a
35:40
little while and then he'd sit down, but he'd always
35:42
be sitting like this, you know, kind of over hunched
35:44
over his knees, and he just stayed like that for
35:46
so long, and I remember thinking, like, his back's gotta
35:48
be hurting. So I like look behind him, and there's
35:50
this guy there and he's still kneeling up and he's praying.
35:53
He's got his hands over the seat, you know. So
35:54
Max like can't sit back, yeah, and so he's just
35:57
sitting there and he keeps looking back.
35:59
Speaker 2: The guy just does not move.
36:01
Speaker 4: And I was dying because I just saw it in
36:03
it where you're like, man, you want to sit back,
36:05
but this guy will not catch the hint.
36:08
Speaker 2: And so he went too.
36:09
Speaker 4: Yeah, he stayed kneeling the whole time. So Max is
36:12
just like bro and he gets out. He's like, what's
36:15
up with mister iron?
36:16
Speaker 2: Knees behind it. It's like getting you're saying, dude, sit down.
36:20
Speaker 3: It was so funny. What did you guys think about
36:23
the iteration? Actually, I think it's awesome. I think, uh,
36:28
you know, stuff like that. It's I've never been the
36:32
kind of person who gets like super emotional just about
36:34
anything at all. But again, like I was saying, with
36:40
the Sign of the Cross things, just watching so many
36:42
people and just experiencing so many people being there just.
36:48
Speaker 2: Praising God.
36:49
Speaker 3: Everybody is just kneeling and it's just it's so wild,
36:54
and you know, obviously it is just an incredible personal
36:58
experience as well. But I think that this is the
37:00
biggest thing for me is just seeing everybody, every niche
37:04
all bow.
37:06
Speaker 2: Is thou insane?
37:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because for the conference there are twenty thousand people,
37:11
but on Wednesday there are four thousand more people from
37:15
Saint Louis Archdiocese four thousand more. So there are twenty
37:18
four thousand people in that stadium just adoring Jesus doing
37:22
one thing.
37:22
Speaker 2: That's so cool.
37:24
Speaker 1: But for me, like I go to lots like I
37:28
go to lots of adoration nights and stuff where Jesus
37:32
is exposed in the monstrans, and most of the time
37:34
I'm just there just like praying, existing kind of like
37:38
trying to focus on Jesus and all these things. But
37:42
for some reason, anytime there's like a massive gathering of
37:45
people to adore Jesus in the monstrans, it gets me
37:49
a little more emotional. But I remember we were in
37:53
like the top views. So at one point I had
37:57
I left to go to confession. They had a the
38:00
efficient confession line. It's like four through four hundred priests.
38:04
It was efficient. I got through it in twenty minutes. Yeah,
38:08
like there were one hundreds and hundreds of people in
38:11
front of me, like.
38:12
Speaker 3: On like Tuesday. Because I didn't think of really get through.
38:14
I kind of wish I.
38:15
Speaker 1: Had waited it would be it was more efficient. It
38:17
was quicker to get through than for any of the
38:19
other any of the other days because they had four hundred
38:22
priests and they had it really efficiently to like have
38:25
people directing, so each priest was basically constantly done. And
38:28
I talked to the one of the priests later and
38:30
he's like, yeah, I only listened to like ten people.
38:33
Crazy because like well, four hundred times, I don't know,
38:36
eight to ten, four hundred no, no, sorry, four thousand,
38:40
four thousand people went to confession that night and like
38:46
in two hours.
38:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's insane, quite insane.
38:50
Speaker 1: But I remember when I was walking down, I crossed
38:53
the center because we were on the opposite side, just
38:55
were confessional. So I crossed the center, and you know,
38:57
I passed by Jesus and I knelt down and like
39:00
prostrated myself before him. And I remember thinking, as I
39:03
was heading off to confession, you know, I know that
39:05
they posess with the monstrance. It'd be really cool if
39:09
if once I got back from confession that, you know,
39:13
demnstance would just be going right in front of me
39:17
as soon as I walk in. And that didn't happen.
39:20
But when I walked in, I thought you were building up.
39:24
Speaker 3: To be like and then I walked back in, it
39:27
was just right there.
39:28
Speaker 1: I to something, but it wasn't exactly how I pictured it.
39:32
But I walked in and I just crossed over to
39:36
the center and then I just couldn't go any further
39:37
because there's just a massive people. But then I saw
39:42
that the monstrance was coming down and so I knelt
39:45
and then the constance passes. Oh, it's almost like, oh,
39:48
it's It was really emotional for me because for some reason,
39:51
I get really emotional in front of the monstrance when
39:53
there's a lot of people around. But like, yeah, so
39:56
it passed there, and then it turned and then it
39:59
passed behind me, so like I was able to move
40:02
around to the other side, and it passed me again,
40:04
and then it went down another aisle where it's a
40:06
little further and then basically to pass me again, and
40:09
I was just like down there for like fifteen twenty minutes,
40:12
just like Jesus come back and forth, He's coming back
40:15
to me, and like it was just such an impactful
40:19
thing because I remember last week I had an emotional
40:22
experience during adoration where I just like really felt like
40:27
I wanted to just like cast myself fully to the
40:31
ground in front of in front of him. I could
40:33
do that because I was surrounded by people in pew,
40:35
but there was an NPC next to me, so I
40:37
was able at that time to like hunch down and
40:40
like completely hide underneath the seat to power for Jesus.
40:44
But that's experience actually made me want to and from
40:48
then on I've received communion on my knees because before
40:52
I I've seen people do that. I'm like, oh, they
40:54
just wanting to like appear holy because people could see them.
40:57
But like that experience of me just like I just
40:59
wanted to just like be nothing before Jesus and just
41:02
like fully prostrate myself before him. Like it was impactful
41:06
enough that I'm like, I now understand why it is
41:10
good to receive on the knees and humility and so
41:15
like that was just an impactful thing. And and I
41:17
guess another impactful experience at Secret there's a mini miracle
41:20
of timing, just the timing can be coming back from communion,
41:24
not commune from confession was perfect for me to get
41:26
stuck behind a group of people and not like walk
41:29
up to my seat and then be like, oh shoot,
41:30
I missed out, But the people kept me there and
41:33
then Jesus just kept coming back to me. And man,
41:38
my shirt was a little wet from like sobbing, just
41:41
like when I get to really emotional and I started
41:43
like sweating and it's like disgusting. I'm glad, like.
41:47
Speaker 2: I wash it. That was the weirdest talk. Oh it was.
41:51
Speaker 6: I was like, oh, I like get the point, but
41:55
it's kind of yeah, I don't even know what shirt
41:57
I was wearing, but it was just I was glad
42:00
that there was no one like right hunched up next
42:02
to me because like I'll probably I probably stink, but it's.
42:06
Speaker 1: Like it was just emotions, just like I just like
42:08
let everything go. And then for the rest of the adorations,
42:10
just I just kept my eye focused on the monstrance,
42:14
which was really far away because once I got back
42:16
up the seat, it was really far away. But I
42:17
could just get my eyes focused there, barely blinking because
42:21
somehow I can do that when I'm just like it's
42:23
a tunnel vision. It's just like this amazing thing. And
42:25
then just it just kept cycling in my head, just
42:27
like you know, to give yourself fully to God is
42:31
like a lot of times when I'm praying, I'm.
42:33
Speaker 2: Like, oh, you know what'd be really cool.
42:35
Speaker 1: It's if I'm praying so holy that I started like levitating,
42:38
but I don't notice it because you know, I'm humble.
42:40
I don't notice that I'm levitating and then sees me
42:43
and just like.
42:45
Speaker 2: That always happens to me.
42:46
Speaker 1: But then I just remember being like, did not let
42:49
me be overcome by feelings of greatness, because that is
42:55
not who I am. I am not like that great
42:57
person who will levitate before the ucist, because God is
43:01
the one who levitates. Jesus is the one who does that.
43:03
And so just like, do not let me become overwhelmed
43:06
by thoughts of oh being great or making people see
43:09
me or know me in this beautiful way. No, just
43:13
if all I am is right here in front of you, Lord,
43:16
that is it, and I will be happy, Like this
43:19
moment is all time because the glory and power of
43:23
God is so great that this great distance that I had,
43:26
it was probably like hundreds of feet, like it was
43:31
hard to like see the Eucharist, but like with how
43:35
big God is, that distance is nothing. So I remember
43:38
being like so many people want who like go up
43:41
really close to the eucharst so they like feel great,
43:43
But like Jesus is so big that that far away,
43:47
it's as if he's right there in front of your eyes,
43:49
you know, even this time, if it's only an hour
43:52
or two, but like this is forever, like this is
43:55
all time right now, existing right now, just you and
43:57
Jesus experiencing this communion of love and adoration.
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Speaker 2: To say the least.
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Speaker 1: Was quite a cool night. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, it
44:07
was emotional for a lot of people in different ways.
44:09
You could hear people, Yeah, that's fun.
44:11
Speaker 2: You could hear people there is that one guy. Yeah,
44:15
that was super beautiful. That's really cool.
44:18
Speaker 1: It's like I've had a couple of experiences in front
44:21
of you, Christen, and it's like it's just beautiful things,
44:24
Like you don't need to you don't need to feel
44:26
an experience because like it's a consolation that Jesus gives
44:30
you at times and desolations that others where you feel nothing.
44:35
But it was like it was a gift from him.
44:40
But it wasn't something like an experience of sheer joy.
44:43
It was just like almost I was forcing my will
44:48
to acknowledge him, but I have not I don't have
44:51
that power. So Jesus was giving me the strength to
44:54
like focus my will and things kept coming in, distractions coming,
44:58
and it says.
44:59
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.
44:59
Speaker 1: Oh, it's like all these distractions that happened, but like
45:03
Jesus gave me the gift to be able to like
45:04
set it aside and just be with him. And it
45:08
was a great It was a great time.
45:10
Speaker 2: That's so cool. I'm gonna clip that.
45:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about you?
45:19
Speaker 2: You talked a bit about it, What was the question?
45:22
Speaker 1: How was the adoration? You talked a bit about it,
45:24
but not about you personally.
45:32
Speaker 4: I didn't have any crazy experiences.
45:35
Speaker 1: That's the normal thing that happens. Sometimes I feel like
45:40
I make stuff up in my mind just it's like.
45:42
Speaker 4: No, no, I think I don't. I didn't have an
45:46
experienced that day, but I didn't need one I could
45:51
tell of Like I just I was just taking it
45:55
in for what it was. I think I wasn't really
45:59
I I think it kind of at least from what
46:01
I've been seeing in like the journey as you're trying
46:05
to like see what's really going on you, I've had
46:08
a lot of moments that were like massively wake up,
46:12
huge wake up calls during spiritual direction or during prayer
46:17
or something like that. That is like, if you were
46:21
seeing it from my perspective, it's like, Okay, that's huge.
46:26
And so then when during adoration, it wasn't so much
46:31
like it almost felt like I was just at peace,
46:34
I would say. And so it was an experience where
46:37
I was like I was it was hard to stay focused.
46:40
Speaker 2: When there's a lot going on, it's hard to stay focused.
46:42
Speaker 4: I've noticed, I mean groundbreaking news, but it was hard
46:49
to stay focused. So I was just kind of like
46:51
letting myself just be there, I think, you know, and
46:59
just sort of to look get everything for what it was,
47:02
to kind of see all of the people, to see
47:04
the image and to and I had a few moments
47:07
where I teared up, I think, just sort of going
47:13
down that path of like wow, this is real. It's
47:17
it's the feeling that this is real, I think is
47:19
what stood out to me the most. And that's been
47:21
a sort of consistent theme in the last few months,
47:26
because I wouldn't say that I have an ecstatic joy
47:30
yet or like lasting peace, but I'm it's like I've
47:36
been getting closer and closer to an experience of things
47:39
feeling and being real of like this is like this
47:43
is true, and it's not like this is true but yeah,
47:46
but this is like kind of you know, it's more
47:50
like this is true and you're like, oh, wow, this
47:52
is true. And so I think during adoration it was
47:55
just a cool It was cool to be there with
47:59
a group of friends, yeah, and to be there with
48:01
my girlfriend as well where it's like we're on the
48:04
same page here, we're all here for the same reason.
48:08
And it was kind of like I just sort of
48:11
let myself be there instead of think, Okay, I've got
48:14
to get into like this mode of focus, I've got
48:16
to do this, I've got to have this emotional experience.
48:19
I need it. It's like I kind of just let
48:21
it be whatever it was going to be, and it
48:26
was just like a good experience, Like I just felt there.
48:29
I felt very present, I felt like myself. I felt
48:33
like I could just let myself be a little bit
48:35
distracted and be like, ah, I'm getting distracted again.
48:37
Speaker 2: It's like okay, why am I here?
48:38
Speaker 4: You know, and just kind of come back to that
48:40
slowly and not be so expecting something of myself or
48:44
expecting something from God to happen.
48:47
Speaker 2: And it still did in.
48:48
Speaker 4: Small ways, like in my own heart, things that I
48:50
know that I've been paying attention to, thoughts that would
48:52
come up, and then the chance just to sort of
48:55
pray and be like, Okay, God, I know that you're
48:58
here because the whole room is calling you to be here,
49:03
and so it's like I just hope that you hear
49:05
me now and like that you're with me as I'm
49:07
going through.
49:07
Speaker 1: All there gathered in my name, what about twenty thousand.
49:11
Speaker 2: Two or three times?
49:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, but no, that like that's a beautiful thing, just
49:15
like to just be an experience and that that is
49:18
in itself a great gift. It's like I'm on the interior,
49:22
like a really emotional person. Some of my closer friends
49:25
like can understand that while on the outside, I might
49:29
not appear too emotional because I can, you know, keep
49:31
those rein. But so adoration lets me slip out of
49:36
my putting images up, but for other people to just
49:40
let them just exist and be real. And what you
49:43
were saying is like to try to not force an
49:45
emotional experience. I fear that like a ton of people
49:48
there are just like this is if people like if
49:52
I make an emotional experience and people will see that,
49:54
and I'm fearful of like some pride that people might
49:57
have felt, and I hope that Jesus speak to them
50:00
through that pride of like I'm gonna be doing that.
50:03
I'm gonna be very emotional loud, crying, laughing or whatever.
50:09
Uh so people can see me and it's like I
50:11
I hope that they were doing it for Jesus and
50:13
not for themselves. Like at the end, there was this
50:17
really cool cry of like Viva Cristo rey and I'm like, I,
50:22
I it's an a powerful impactful thing, you know, Long
50:24
Live Christ the King. But I'm just fearful that some
50:26
of those people are like this. I can scream and
50:29
be loud and let someone hear me, and then then
50:31
they they can recognize me, and it's like they don't,
50:33
you know, they don't need to recognize who Jesus does. Like,
50:36
you're here for Jesus. So if you if you're screaming
50:38
like long of Christ the King to Jesus and showing
50:40
that joy, like that's a beautiful thing. But if you're
50:44
doing it for yourself, I hope that Jesus could speak
50:46
to you through that.
50:47
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's tricky. That's tricky.
50:51
Speaker 1: I think. I.
50:52
Speaker 3: Oh, I was just gonna say what, well you were
50:57
talking Fulton, what you said about like not needing that
51:01
kind of experience, that was something could like basically everything
51:05
you said, Like I was the same way that night,
51:08
but uh, I didn't really feel like I needed that
51:14
kind of emotional experience in the moment, but something that
51:16
was really kind of seeking out to me A lot
51:19
during adoration especially, was how many people there were around
51:24
me who probably did and just I found myself And
51:30
I don't I don't want to say this and be like, oh,
51:34
look at me, I'm like doing this or whatever, but
51:37
like I found myself not even really like a lot
51:41
of times when I'm in an adoration, I kind of tend,
51:44
like most people kind of tend to be like you
51:46
bring all your problems, you bring everything to Christ.
51:49
Speaker 2: It's like, this is Jesus, this is what I want
51:52
you to fix in my life.
51:54
Speaker 3: But I feel like in that that night, I really
51:58
kind of lost sight of my own suffering in a way,
52:07
and I really felt kind of.
52:10
Speaker 2: My attention directed towards the you.
52:12
Speaker 3: Know, nineteen thy nine hundred and ninety nine other people
52:15
in the room. But that that also kind of gets
52:20
to what you're saying about like having an emotional experience
52:23
to like what if that's actually for you or like
52:26
for a pride for a reason, because you know, I
52:30
saw so many people.
52:32
Speaker 2: I mean, I hope it.
52:33
Speaker 3: Was real, because if it was real, and there were
52:36
so many people who were so and it was beauty
52:38
moved that night and that was such an incredible thing
52:41
to see.
52:43
Speaker 2: But yeah, I.
52:44
Speaker 3: Feel like for me it was just I kind of
52:47
said it already earlier, but just witnessing the way that
52:52
not expecting something to happen for me, but more observing
52:55
what was happening for everybody else in a way was
52:58
really powerful. Yeah, we're probably getting close when you have
53:03
to go, I got a couple of minutes, but any
53:05
final before we finish, I've talked to you about it
53:08
a little bit. I want to know what Fulton did
53:10
you go to all the guys talks? Yeah, okay, what
53:14
what's your opinion on the performance? Yeah, this is gonna
53:22
be weird for people listening who didn't see it.
53:25
Speaker 2: I still want to know what you thought about them? God?
53:32
Speaker 4: Well, okay, what was the first night?
53:36
Speaker 3: The first was the Navy Dude sing? Yeah, God bless you.
53:41
Speaker 4: As far as talent goes, she did write her own
53:45
song and perform it in front of twenty thousand people,
53:49
I'd give it to her.
53:51
Speaker 2: Yeah. The second one was the Magic Card Trick, right that,
53:55
It was the magic trick, if you could even call
53:57
it that. That was the best, really the best.
54:03
Speaker 1: Seventeen different vests on not just vest but also shirts.
54:07
It was hilarious.
54:08
Speaker 4: Yeah, the best the best thing was really funny like
54:11
that because it's like, in comparison to the card trick,
54:15
you could.
54:16
Speaker 2: Have done anything. I was like that.
54:18
Speaker 3: Because with the card trick, it was like she could
54:19
have stacked the deck and she gave each person there.
54:22
Speaker 1: It was a fairly easy cardick. Yeah, but like dude
54:26
that he started dancing and like this is weird. And
54:29
then he's like taking off his shirt and like this
54:32
is double weird. There's just another vest.
54:35
Speaker 3: It just keeps going, you want, like and then when
54:38
he got to the last one, it's like the gold
54:39
one or whatever, and it's.
54:41
Speaker 2: Just like the men are screaming.
54:45
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's why I just I like that because it
54:47
was just kind of fun to get.
54:48
Speaker 2: Hyped over something so stupid. It was just like we
54:50
all knew.
54:51
Speaker 4: It's like this is awesome, but yeah, no, I mean
54:56
and then yeah, least and mess must not be said.
54:59
Speaker 2: Then what was the last the dance off.
55:02
Speaker 3: With like the guy and I don't remember what the
55:05
girl they were doing it.
55:07
Speaker 2: I just saw people dancing.
55:08
Speaker 3: It wasn't memorable at all, but the guys did umbrella
55:11
and that was funny.
55:13
Speaker 4: What talk was that.
55:15
Speaker 1: On Thursday the men's talks. Right before the men's talk,
55:19
there was a.
55:19
Speaker 2: Dance right for the men's talk. What was men's talk
55:22
on Thursday? It was soccer the soccer I can't remember
55:25
his name was. I do not remember. Maybe it was
55:29
late that day. Because it was a good talk and
55:31
it was a good performance.
55:32
Speaker 1: You should watch it.
55:33
Speaker 2: It was good talk. The soccer guy. Yeah, I can't
55:37
remember what his name was. I was gonna drive me.
55:39
Speaker 1: He was like becoming a famous soccer player. And then
55:42
it's like, you know what, I'm a priest now, well
55:44
not dead, but like I'll become. Yeah, it was a
55:49
good talk. I don't remember. Master of the men's talks.
55:51
I took notes on them and there were some really
55:53
good ones.
55:55
Speaker 4: So if there was one Sikh talk that you would
55:57
recommend people watch on seak replayed out com what.
56:01
Speaker 1: Would be vocation? Like what is God calling you to do?
56:04
I think that's the name father John Ignacious Azeradi. I
56:08
hope it's up there now. It hasn't been yet, but
56:11
they're getting caught up with the videos.
56:14
Speaker 3: I would definitely say that. I think you said it
56:17
was the weight of our brokenness. The mon Signior James say,
56:20
my second, that pretty incredible. I hope I haven't watched
56:23
it back yet. I was gonna watch it. We're gonna
56:25
listen to it on the way here. I hope it's
56:27
as good when you listen to it. It's not going
56:29
to be, but I hope it's like yeah, in person.
56:33
Speaker 1: Make the speak as louditde brates in your chest as well.
56:36
Speaker 2: Wear headphones.
56:38
Speaker 4: All right, Well, that would conclude our little episode on Seek.
56:46
We will have discussions on the topics of our further episodes,
56:49
hopefully getting into more theological or spiritual or physical or
56:54
intellectual or relational.
56:55
Speaker 1: Stuff, but or evangelical or evangelical I forgot that one.
57:00
Speaker 2: That's the biggie.
57:03
Speaker 4: So if you guys have any ideas, whoever is watching
57:06
Drew out, Drew h we owe you one T shirt.
57:09
Speaker 2: Drew Olivia, Pat literally.
57:11
Speaker 3: All the people who said they have listened all the
57:13
way through but still don't comment, Well.
57:15
Speaker 4: So Drew, that's true, and He's like, yeah, I've listened
57:18
all the way too, but I just haven't commented about
57:20
the T shirt because I'm like, I don't know if
57:21
that seems unfair.
57:22
Speaker 1: And I was like, dude, that I should have given
57:25
to Tim when he was here. Yeah, I'm an idiot, but.
57:30
Speaker 3: Drew should still comment. Anybody else should comment. Anybody else
57:33
that listens all the way through.
57:35
Speaker 2: What's there?
57:35
Speaker 3: We have to have a word. What's the word? Because
57:37
you said like lemons or something.
57:38
Speaker 2: The last time.
57:41
Speaker 3: You said, oh oh, it was like as the outro,
57:44
it's like.
57:47
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, it was lemons.
57:49
Speaker 1: Banana.
57:50
Speaker 4: It's banana this time.
57:52
Speaker 1: But I love banana.
57:53
Speaker 2: Salt Lake City. Okay, salt. Comment something about Salt Lake City.
57:57
Speaker 3: Because that's five is so salt like banana, Salt like banana.
58:01
There you go, all right, comment salt like banana.
58:05
Speaker 1: Well, I think we lost the point of what we
58:06
were talking about.
58:07
Speaker 2: Probably point Spire brought the pun back. Oh always Okay,
58:15
Well that's it. And who wants to outrow us in prayer?
58:18
Speaker 1: I'll outrow us in prayer, Father's Son, Holy Spirit, Amen, Lord,
58:23
thank you for this time between the three of us
58:26
and whoever is listening. We pray that what we talked
58:30
about was impactful to each other and to at least
58:32
one other person. We pray for all twenty twenty four
58:38
thousand people that went to seek a couple of weeks ago.
58:42
That's the experiences they had there, positive or negative or whatever,
58:47
may lead them closer to You, and that coming back
58:51
from that experience may change their lives for the better
58:55
for the rest of their life. And we pray that
58:59
those who haven't gone to seek may experience the joys
59:03
of your love and your life and all things. We
59:08
asked this in your name, Amen, Father Son, Holy Spirit.
59:12
Speaker 2: Amen.
59:15
Speaker 4: Actual music, but this has been the Spire podcast. Also
59:20
check out our website spire today dot com. There's more
59:23
information on there. Exactly what Spires Today wasn't very Aspire topic,
59:26
but it's okay because eventually it all ties back relationship.
59:29
Speaker 1: It was all yeah and seek a.
59:35
Speaker 3: Smash like buttons Instagram.
59:40
Speaker 2: We don't know what to do.
59:41
Speaker 1: Oh no, the camera is still on.
59:44
Speaker 2: Peace out, Peace