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How The Government Uses Psychiatry To Silence You (Corbett's Descent Into Madness) · Under the Docs

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Speaker 1: Psychiatry itself is specifically used and weaponized against political dissenter.
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Speaker 4: Today the set Into Madness James Corbett twenty twenty five film.
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Speaker 4: I actually just ran across this. I mean I'm biased
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Speaker 4: on the table already. I already like Corbett follow Korba Report,
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Speaker 4: so like, I've been like wanting to watch this and
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Speaker 4: then I'm like, yeh, let's just watch it, and You're like, yeah, cool.
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Speaker 1: Well I'm in for this too. This is recent. I
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Speaker 1: think this came out less than a year ago, so
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Speaker 1: it's fairly or at least his own channel that we
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Speaker 1: found this on YouTube put it less than a year
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Speaker 1: ago of us watching this, So full disclaimer. I've also
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Speaker 1: had James Corbett on the show before, fan of his work,
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Speaker 1: but I'm also sponsored by Tavistock, so I feel like
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Speaker 1: those two things should at least balance each other out.
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Speaker 4: Yeah for sure. I mean, good old Tavistok and everything
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Speaker 4: and Korbet. You know, he comes with this classic I liked.
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Speaker 4: It actually came out September. I mean again, what it
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Speaker 4: was loaded on the YouTube page I don't like September fifteenth,
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty five, so less than a year in and
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Speaker 4: it's definitely something that's up our alley, back to our roots,
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Speaker 4: and it explores the words like crazy, paranoid, conspiracy theorists,
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Speaker 4: nut job, and political descent, and then the weaponized psychiatry,
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Speaker 4: like where it's let's.
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Speaker 5: Put this guy away and he's crazy.
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Speaker 4: Right, the buildings didn't fall down, they were crashed into.
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Speaker 4: It wasn't explosive, it wasn't masad get over it.
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Speaker 1: I like the underlying premise of this documentary. It makes
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Speaker 1: a strong case, really clear. He gets to the point,
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Speaker 1: but it's that psychiatry itself is specifically used and weaponized
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Speaker 1: against political dissent or anyone that's bucking the norm, and
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Speaker 1: they normalize this concept of like, ah, you're crazy, someone
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Speaker 1: should lock you up. Well, that's based on the fact
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Speaker 1: that governments do lock people up for saying things that
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Speaker 1: have been deemed crazy. And as long as you can
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Speaker 1: get the whole population to agree like, oh yeah, that's crazy,
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Speaker 1: that guy should be locked up. The more people that
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Speaker 1: feel like that, then you can legitimately start locking those
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Speaker 1: people up. That's wild, and there's examples of it happening
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Speaker 1: all throughout history including today.
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Speaker 5: Slotting the course.
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Speaker 4: Like a good old James Corbett documentary. I do appreciate
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Speaker 4: this as you break it down into sections so we
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Speaker 4: could kind of like guide our audience as you guided
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Speaker 4: us through these treacherous waves, and each section I'm gonna
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Speaker 4: go over, it's the bad old days, the bad new days,
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Speaker 4: who loaded the weapon, pathologizing conspiracy first, they come for
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Speaker 4: the truthers, are misleaders, are psychopaths, projections of psychopaths, and pathocracy.
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Speaker 4: So it really like I like how he starts off
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Speaker 4: and kind of gives you the roots of what this
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Speaker 4: whole topic is about. That it's to prove to you
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Speaker 4: that this is not a new phenomenon, that this has
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Speaker 4: been used for a long time, and then bringing up
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Speaker 4: the evidence of that.
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Speaker 1: I think that I didn't even remember that many chapters
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Speaker 1: going through. I do like that it's nice and spaced
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Speaker 1: out and I have clear oh, okay, we've transitioned from
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Speaker 1: that previous topic to this new topic. I do love
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Speaker 1: that like this. I have to say it was it
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Speaker 1: was very well edited, very well structured and everything so
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Speaker 1: you kind of get a nice little sampler platter, right
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Speaker 1: of a whole bunch of different evidence that support this
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Speaker 1: main theory about weaponized psychiatry. And I guess let me
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Speaker 1: just stick in here early too that scientologists will probably
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Speaker 1: love this documentary, right because I think this original concept
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Speaker 1: of psychiatry being evil, like this weaponized arm of the
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Speaker 1: state or you know, to beat down anyone that was
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Speaker 1: in descent. I remember that being like crazy scientologist talk, right.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I guess it may be truth in good
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Speaker 4: old scientology with the Alley oop right there. And then
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Speaker 4: they kind of go through our history of the Soviet
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Speaker 4: pundiff psychiatry where they started labeling people sluggish schizophrenia, which
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Speaker 4: was reformed delusions, obsessive pursuit of truth, anti Soviet thinking.
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Speaker 4: So if you were anti Soviet, you didn't do exactly
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Speaker 4: what you're supposed to.
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Speaker 5: Throw him in the looney bin.
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Speaker 1: Well and chemically induced a coma, so now you're in
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Speaker 1: a stupor for weeks or months of your life. It
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Speaker 1: was inter just I mean, it's it's Corbett. So he
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Speaker 1: doesn't not also mention the America in Canada did this
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Speaker 1: in MK Ultra with like James Ewan Cameron a little
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Speaker 1: bit later on, but he does get to that. So,
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Speaker 1: no one's really safe, right If the state deems that
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Speaker 1: you're saying things that are crazy, they have tools and
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Speaker 1: ways to either ridicule you, and and I think it's
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Speaker 1: it's a good point that you no longer have to
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Speaker 1: tap into just the fear of being ostracized. You can
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Speaker 1: actually cancel someone and ostracize them for saying what that
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Speaker 1: what everyone deems is crazy. So he keeps honing in
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Speaker 1: on that, And I guess the subtext of this whole
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Speaker 1: documentary is James saying like, yeah, but what if all
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Speaker 1: the conspiracies are right, Like what if all of it's
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Speaker 1: true and you know it's true and you have proof
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Speaker 1: that it's true, but people keep calling you crazy over
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Speaker 1: and over again.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, And he goes through, like you said, the Western
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Speaker 4: part of it and has like even talks a little eugenics, right,
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Speaker 4: like the eugenics program and Benjamin Rush. Benjamin Rush coined
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Speaker 4: some terms like uh.
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Speaker 1: The.
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Speaker 4: Frap too, menia diagnosis of enslaved people who fled captivity,
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Speaker 4: so like this has been diagnosed since like slavery days
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Speaker 4: are like yeah, you know, like he was, yeah, bro,
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Speaker 4: this slave left he must be crazy, right, something's wrong
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Speaker 4: with him.
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Speaker 1: The examples where anarchia, this is like early nineteen hundreds,
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Speaker 1: so it's after psychiatry starts taking a foothold, which I
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Speaker 1: think is late eighteen hundreds, early nineteen hundreds. It dovetails
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Speaker 1: almost immediately into eugenics because the consensus is that, uh oh,
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Speaker 1: if someone starts going crazy, make sure they don't have kids,
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Speaker 1: because then their kids will be crazy. So it's almost
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Speaker 1: borderline sterilization of people that have this political descent. So
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Speaker 1: one of those was anarchia, which was a mental disorder
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Speaker 1: described as an excess of passion for liberty. That was
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Speaker 1: the actual clinical definition. So if you had an excessive
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Speaker 1: passion for liberty, then you have anarchia. And they've literally
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Speaker 1: treated people with this particular issue. They put him in
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Speaker 1: a dark room, solitary confinement, they gave him sleep deprivation,
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Speaker 1: and they had something called a tranquilization share where they
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Speaker 1: just kind of strap you down into this chair. Looked
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Speaker 1: very similar to the things that they do to you
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Speaker 1: if you get arrested and you like spit at the
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Speaker 1: cops and they put like the spit had a hood
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Speaker 1: on you, and they kind of like strap you into
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Speaker 1: the chair. Like we still do all this, right, Like
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Speaker 1: all these things are still being used, They're just not
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Speaker 1: being used in mental institutions anymore because now since we
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Speaker 1: don't have mental institutions, the cops can show up and
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Speaker 1: be like, oh, this dude's acting crazy and just become
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Speaker 1: the mental institution like on the fly.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you get judge, jury and executioner where
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Speaker 4: you're like, all right, I'm just gonna shoot this guy.
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Speaker 1: Ye, judge dread and then and then the other one
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Speaker 1: you mentioned was draped the mania, which was something that
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Speaker 1: was applied to Yes, like if a slave tried to
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Speaker 1: run away, then it wasn't because they were trying to
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Speaker 1: get freedom. It was because they had this mental disorder
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Speaker 1: that needed to be you know fixed basically, I assume
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Speaker 1: with torture pretty much.
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Speaker 4: And that's what's crazy is that it's not some new phenomenon, right,
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Speaker 4: and then they kind of like go into the bad
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Speaker 4: new days, so modern psychiatry expansion, and then they go
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Speaker 4: into big pharma and the DSM book that's the mental
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Speaker 4: health Bible, and it's controlled by the Psychiatric Association.
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Speaker 5: Will Lisa Costgrove.
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Speaker 4: In a twenty twelve study referred to had financial ties
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Speaker 4: between DSM panel members and big pharma industry. So they
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Speaker 4: kind of go through the connection of this book that
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Speaker 4: puts like schizophrenia and different diagnoses in it, that they're
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Speaker 4: being suaded by big pharma, Like, hey, add this one right,
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Speaker 4: here's a good one that might get people.
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Speaker 5: Are they against big pharma? Yeah, then that is a
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Speaker 5: new disease.
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Speaker 1: Corbett does his research on this one, and by that
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Speaker 1: he usually cites exactly what book or study that all
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Speaker 1: this comes from. And some of the stats that he
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Speaker 1: throws out here is that more than sixty five percent
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Speaker 1: of writers that are in this ds half ties the
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Speaker 1: big pharma and one in particular, it was the Sleep
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Speaker 1: Disorder Panel that one hundred percent of the people that
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Speaker 1: write anything about sleep disorders in the DSM, one hundred
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Speaker 1: percent of them have direct ties to big pharma as well.
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Speaker 1: And I without going on a complete tangent, but the
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Speaker 1: DSM is weaponized by everybody. This is not like a
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Speaker 1: political thing like for example, it's like, oh, you're grooming
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Speaker 1: your kids and that's a mental disorder. It's in the DSM,
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Speaker 1: or you have it, you know, on like left wing side,
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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, you're a conspiracy theorists. You've got delusions
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Speaker 1: in paranoid and that's in the DSM. People will like
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Speaker 1: weaponize this back and forth. I can't remember the source
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Speaker 1: of who mentioned this, but it was such a great
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Speaker 1: explanation that all the DSM is. It's that if enough
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Speaker 1: people get in a room and they write down enough symptoms,
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Speaker 1: and they're like, let's call that a thing. If someone
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Speaker 1: has eight of those things or three of these symptoms,
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Speaker 1: let's just call it some kind of a mania or
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Speaker 1: an ormea or aphelia or something. And if we just
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Speaker 1: collectively agree in this room with twelve people, if we
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Speaker 1: collective agree anyone that has those eight symptoms, we can
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Speaker 1: just shorthand it. Instead of having to list all those
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Speaker 1: we'll just be like, oh, they're a cleptomaniac. Ah, they've
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Speaker 1: got anarchia whatever. That's all the DSM is. It doesn't
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Speaker 1: have any kind of solutions. It doesn't say what causes things,
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Speaker 1: it doesn't say how to treat things. It's literally just
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Speaker 1: a way to categorize behavior in a can more convenient
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Speaker 1: way for the psychiatric institution. So I'll take my tinfoil
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Speaker 1: slash soapbox and go back home now.
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Speaker 5: But you're right though, that's exactly what it's about.
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Speaker 4: It's like, let's put a list of these things and
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Speaker 4: categorize people of the symptoms they have, and a lot
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Speaker 4: of them like blend together. That's why, like even harder
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Speaker 4: than like regular medical books. Right in this psychiatry book,
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Speaker 4: you're like blending things. We're like personality disorder, bipolar, schizophrenia.
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Speaker 5: It's kind of all in the same house.
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Speaker 4: And you're like, what, like those are different degrees, but
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Speaker 4: if you go through what the symptoms are. That's why
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Speaker 4: people are self diagnosing themselves, like especially this whole autism right,
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Speaker 4: everybody's autistic out it. I think I'm on the spectrum. Bro,
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Speaker 4: Like I hear that so much. Or they'll be like
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Speaker 4: if you're into something, like they're like, man, you really
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Speaker 4: research on that, you must be a little bit autistic.
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Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, man, I just like the subject.
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Speaker 1: You know what it is due one hundred percent agree.
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Speaker 1: Where now people are self identifying with DSM categories like
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Speaker 1: I'm one of these. I'm you know, I'm stimming right
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Speaker 1: now or whatever the things are. But what's funny is
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Speaker 1: that it's this is just the state slash big farm
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Speaker 1: of version of filling out the survey to find out like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I'm such a Chandler. Oh I'm I'm a gryffindor you
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's it's that level of like
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Speaker 1: a Facebook survey that tells you what Ninja turtle you are.
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Speaker 1: But instead of just being like, Oh, that's cool, I'm
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Speaker 1: Donna Tello, you're like, and now I need to take drugs.
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Speaker 1: I need to take Dona Tello drugs. Yeah, you're Dona
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Speaker 1: Pillow too. Oh that like it gives people like a
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Speaker 1: reason to bond and feel part of something, but it's
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Speaker 1: it's sick and maniacal because the origin of all this
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Speaker 1: was just to classify someone to essentially be euthanized or sterilized.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the youthanizer, sterilized or bare minimum like just be compliant,
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Speaker 4: right and to follow like your lead, like hey, don't
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Speaker 4: question the government, the state or anything like that. And
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Speaker 4: then like this is what I like about Corbett. He's
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Speaker 4: always asking the questions. He's like, Okay, now that you
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Speaker 4: have this past of like the psychiatric like misuses and weaponization,
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Speaker 4: like through past and kind of present. And then he's like,
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Speaker 4: but who loaded it? Like how did this all start.
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Speaker 4: So he goes who loaded the weapon, and he goes
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Speaker 4: back to George Brock Chris Holmes, October nineteen forty five
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Speaker 4: lecture The re Establishment of Peacetime Societies.
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Speaker 5: If the Race this is a quote for a man.
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Speaker 4: If the race is to be freed from its crippling
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Speaker 4: burden of good and evil, it must be psychiatrists who
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Speaker 4: take the original responsibility. So pretty much this was like
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Speaker 4: the catalyst of setting forth of like this is a
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Speaker 4: problem of good and evil. It's not exactly like that.
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Speaker 4: That's what people painted into this, but we can fix that, right,
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Speaker 4: This good and evil hero villain is just a thing
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Speaker 4: in our minds that we make up. And no one's
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Speaker 4: really good, no one's really evil. It's that you need
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Speaker 4: guidance and you need to be placed in one of
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Speaker 4: these categories. And that's kind of like the where it
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Speaker 4: kind of unfolds too. He goes to John Reisch, chairman
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Speaker 4: of Your Good Old Boys Tavistock, and he wrote a
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Speaker 4: strategic planning mental health where in the quote, we can
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Speaker 4: therefore justify stress out of particular points of view, even
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Speaker 4: though our knowledge will be incomplete. So that to me
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Speaker 4: was like what like he He literally took the work
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Speaker 4: right from Chris Holmes. That might be missed, Yeah, Chris
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Speaker 4: Holmes and Reese is a disciple and he's part of
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Speaker 4: the military industrial complex in the UK, part of Tavistock,
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Speaker 4: and he's like, you know what, we will take the
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Speaker 4: lead on this.
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Speaker 1: This was one of those things that took so long
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Speaker 1: for me to understand because you hear like Tavistock and
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Speaker 1: MK Ultra and they're controlling you know, media, and like
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Speaker 1: what does that mean? Like if you go to the
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Speaker 1: Tavistock Institute and that's your job, Like what do you
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Speaker 1: do in day to day? I mean it sounds so
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Speaker 1: vague and fun and crazy, but really that's all it
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Speaker 1: really stemmed down to. Right, So the Chisholm guy who
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Speaker 1: was head at the World Health Organization at the time,
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Speaker 1: wasn't just some random guy. So he's head of WHO
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Speaker 1: And when he gives this talk in like the mid forties,
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Speaker 1: then Reese, who's a British military guy that works Tavistock,
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Speaker 1: he's in one of these talks and he's like, damn,
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Speaker 1: this guy's spitting right He's like spitting facts right now.
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Speaker 1: And he goes back and he figures out how to
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Speaker 1: actually act on this information, like what do I do?
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Speaker 1: How can I? And he comes up with this plan
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Speaker 1: of well, let's wepize psychiatry and use this to just
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Speaker 1: control people, and that in order to do this, we
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Speaker 1: can really make sure that we mold public opinion. And
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Speaker 1: he writes he writes as much, right, like this isn't
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Speaker 1: some like secret assumption, as like this must have been
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Speaker 1: what was on his mind. He was like, no, this
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Speaker 1: is the report, Like, if we want to mold public perception,
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Speaker 1: then we have to use psychiatry to kind of like
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Speaker 1: insinuate things about mental health and then use the diagnoses
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Speaker 1: of mental health to rectify that, all in this big
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Speaker 1: effort to just mold public opinions. So they go a
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Speaker 1: certain way. That was the premise of the talk, right,
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Speaker 1: and that's kind of what the Tavistock does, is that
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Speaker 1: they just weaponize arms of the state and of industry
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Speaker 1: to just shape public opinion. And not in like hey,
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Speaker 1: wouldn't it be cool if we did this, but more
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Speaker 1: of like you're going to get locked up if you
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Speaker 1: don't do.
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Speaker 5: This, Yeah, if you don't do this?
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Speaker 1: Throw away?
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Speaker 4: Where's that a clip from I think I like the
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Speaker 4: SNL what was a SNL show through rock, third third
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Speaker 4: Rock or whatever, thirty Rock not third Rock. I was
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Speaker 4: thinking third Rocks, thirty Rock where they have a scene.
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Speaker 4: He goes take them directly to jail, right, like that's
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Speaker 4: exactly where they want to go with all this, and
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Speaker 4: then he kind of frames in pathology pathlow eliji conspiracy
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Speaker 4: framing of paranoia. Right, he goes through media and how
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Speaker 4: media has formed our minds into thinking what is crazy?
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Speaker 4: What is paranoia? What is a conspiracy theorist? And his
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Speaker 4: first references Richard Hofstedter, nineteen sixty four, essay The paranoid
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Speaker 4: style in American politics Political opposition described in clinical terms.
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Speaker 4: Paranoid becomes shorthand for extremism. So like, this is the
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Speaker 4: first in American history at least, right, there's other times
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Speaker 4: where people are using different terminology like crazy or insane
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Speaker 4: nuts or the examples we use prior. But now it's
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Speaker 4: this paranoia and the conspiracy theory is pushed out there
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Speaker 4: a lot where it's like, oh, this guy's against the state,
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Speaker 4: Watergate conspiracy theory guy, right, paranoia the governments against you,
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Speaker 4: even though these are legitimate claims, but the way they're
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Speaker 4: shut down immediately is by calling you crazy and then
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Speaker 4: now paranoid and conspiracy theorists right away.
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Speaker 1: I guess maybe I'm in a minority here, but I
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Speaker 1: never considered that as a pejorative. I know it's used
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Speaker 1: as one, but it never really seemed like one, because yeah, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: like I have theories that there are conspiracies constantly going around,
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Speaker 1: and I feel that that is so accurate that being
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Speaker 1: accused of doing that wouldn't like I don't not identify
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Speaker 1: that way. So I don't know, it's weird for some
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Speaker 1: people to get so up in arms about it. But
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Speaker 1: also watching this documentary, it's like it was meant to
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Speaker 1: do that, it was meant to discredit you, so that
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Speaker 1: whatever you're saying, if someone just goes, ah, you're a
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Speaker 1: conspiracy theorist, then again it's like a DS like if
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Speaker 1: I just were like, oh, you're just stimming right now.
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Speaker 1: Oh you're just going into an autistic spasm right now,
20:06
Speaker 1: Like let me know when you get out of it.
20:08
Speaker 1: Right it's a way to just dismiss behavior. But if
20:11
Speaker 1: it happens frequently enough, and now it's not just friends
20:14
Speaker 1: and family, now it's like your boss and your coworkers,
20:18
Speaker 1: saying it maybe you should start being concerned, not because
20:21
Speaker 1: you're wrong, but because they can call the cops and
20:23
Speaker 1: have you locked up. And I'm not even kidding Baker act.
20:26
Speaker 1: Baker acts an example of that.
20:28
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think what the film points out good too,
20:31
Speaker 4: is like, you're right the way that we take it,
20:33
Speaker 4: or because I look at as like this is what
20:36
Speaker 4: we do.
20:36
Speaker 5: A conspiracy is a thing. Paranoid. I am a little
20:38
Speaker 5: bit paranoid.
20:39
Speaker 4: I think that's like a good instinct to have, right,
20:42
Speaker 4: Being paranoid keeps us alive a little bit. Like if
20:44
Speaker 4: you're not paranoid and you're in the middle of the
20:46
Speaker 4: forest or the jungle, early man days and tigers, you
20:50
Speaker 4: need to be a little paranoid, right because you're like, hey,
20:52
Speaker 4: there may be a tiger over, there may be a
20:53
Speaker 4: grizzly unless you're you know, certain people that want to
20:57
Speaker 4: live with animals. But other than that, it's the language
21:00
Speaker 4: that we use that I think that they're trying to,
21:03
Speaker 4: like you said, dehumanize us and also ostracize us of like, oh,
21:08
Speaker 4: that's the loony you know, that's the crazy uncle, that's
21:11
Speaker 4: my drunk auntie.
21:13
Speaker 5: She just says crazy things and then that.
21:16
Speaker 4: Way, you never take it seriously, and it puts it
21:18
Speaker 4: into this category. Is as you said that you do
21:21
Speaker 4: not want to be around your friends. It will like
21:23
Speaker 4: we saw in twenty twenty a lot where people are like, yeah,
21:26
Speaker 4: I kind of do think this is crazy, but my
21:29
Speaker 4: whole friend group is in this, so I'm just.
21:31
Speaker 5: Gonna go along with it.
21:33
Speaker 1: You know what. It's also it's just a more specific version,
21:36
Speaker 1: Like the informal version of this is if you're with
21:39
Speaker 1: friends or family and someone talks about a topic and
21:42
Speaker 1: you just hear someone go here they go again like that,
21:46
Speaker 1: Like you don't have to call them anything specific, it's
21:48
Speaker 1: just that you're acknowledging, like all right, whatever this person
21:51
Speaker 1: says next, like just let them get it out, like
21:54
Speaker 1: don't pay attention. So I don't think the cops can
21:57
Speaker 1: be called on. Here they go again. But the cops
21:59
Speaker 1: can't be called on this guy's talking about nine to
22:02
Speaker 1: eleven being an inside job, like we're worried he might
22:04
Speaker 1: hurt himself, right.
22:06
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's crazy.
22:07
Speaker 4: And now they show the push to the modernization where
22:11
Speaker 4: like I'm sure that you've noticed it. I mean I've
22:13
Speaker 4: noticed it, but like I didn't realize how many of it,
22:16
Speaker 4: but how many headlines?
22:17
Speaker 5: Why do people believe in conspiracy theories?
22:19
Speaker 4: Like in different ways on multiple news outlets, even on
22:23
Speaker 4: the same news outlets multiple times, whether it be an article,
22:27
Speaker 4: whether it be a video clip, a little segment, and
22:30
Speaker 4: it's like they have to let you know that, look
22:32
Speaker 4: these people that are saying in nine to eleven, and
22:35
Speaker 4: I will say through everything that we always see and
22:38
Speaker 4: that's what thing about Corbett is is he does have
22:41
Speaker 4: that roots of which I have the roots of well
22:43
Speaker 4: of nine to eleven. Right, It's like, Okay, everybody has
22:46
Speaker 4: their conspiracy origins, and maybe not my origins, but at
22:49
Speaker 4: least you're middle ground of your like, this is the
22:52
Speaker 4: main thing I need to know about, and whether it's
22:54
Speaker 4: JFK flat.
22:55
Speaker 5: Earth, whatever it may be, for me, it's nine to eleven.
22:57
Speaker 4: And I feel like Corbett is in that same sphere
23:00
Speaker 4: because it all circulates back to nine to eleven, And like, yeah, bro,
23:05
Speaker 4: if you question the narrative of that, or you question
23:08
Speaker 4: any government that could be that for sure, it's not
23:11
Speaker 4: that it's exactly what we think it is, but that
23:14
Speaker 4: there is something that's not about there the official story.
23:18
Speaker 5: There is something up with that that it's not real.
23:21
Speaker 4: It may not be what everybody's spreading through the Internet,
23:24
Speaker 4: but there's been some pieces that are true.
23:27
Speaker 1: I like that that segment was a good one. It was.
23:29
Speaker 1: It reminded me there was a similar one on either
23:33
Speaker 1: Colbert Show, like the Oliver Report, whatever the English dude was,
23:37
Speaker 1: and they have like the Sinclair thing where it's just
23:41
Speaker 1: people giving the exact same news reports over and over
23:44
Speaker 1: again on like fifty different stations and it sounds like
23:47
Speaker 1: such a like quirky, little organic story, but it's one
23:49
Speaker 1: hundred percent word for words, scripted, same images, same everything, right,
23:54
Speaker 1: So there was there's a version of that for this
23:57
Speaker 1: article or podcast episode or whatever it is called. Why
24:03
Speaker 1: what makes people conspiracy theorists? Something along those lines, And
24:07
Speaker 1: just to be fully self aware, for James Corbett and
24:10
Speaker 1: even for myself, like the typical explanation is always the
24:14
Speaker 1: exact same explanation. It's that people are grasping for some
24:18
Speaker 1: sense of control and order, that the world is just
24:21
Speaker 1: pure chaos, and that feeling like there's a secret cabal
24:25
Speaker 1: that controls everything gives you of a warm sense of well,
24:30
Speaker 1: at least something's in control, at least we're not just
24:33
Speaker 1: flying through space on a burning rock that's eventually going
24:36
Speaker 1: to explode, and there's no point to everything. My tiny
24:39
Speaker 1: little fractured mind is so fragile I can't consider that.
24:43
Speaker 1: So I have to say, na bro, it's the J's
24:47
Speaker 1: or Na Bro, it's the Rockefellers about everything, because if
24:50
Speaker 1: I didn't do that, then I'm giving up control to
24:52
Speaker 1: the universe and I can't handle that. I mean, sure,
24:55
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some people that use conspiracies in the
24:58
Speaker 1: Rockefellers and anything else says like their safety blanket, so
25:02
Speaker 1: they can just be like, ah, I can't you can't
25:04
Speaker 1: do anything. Well, you know they're gonna do what they're
25:05
Speaker 1: gonna do. You can kind of go down that route.
25:07
Speaker 1: I don't I think that that exists, right, that safety
25:09
Speaker 1: blanket exists for people. But saying like, I don't know, man,
25:13
Speaker 1: there might be an incentive for false flag attacks. Man,
25:15
Speaker 1: what about Operation north Woods? Man? What about all of
25:18
Speaker 1: these other historical examples that have existed since the beginning
25:21
Speaker 1: of humans recording our own history. Maybe this is just
25:25
Speaker 1: like part of human behavior that we should be aware of.
25:28
Speaker 1: But if you think that you might be a conspiracy theorist, yeah.
25:32
Speaker 4: And go directly to jail are our Leader's cycle passes
25:37
Speaker 4: the sixth title that part of it, and he goes
25:40
Speaker 4: over this was interesting too, where he's like, is it
25:43
Speaker 4: just being a politician? Is the traits of it just
25:45
Speaker 4: like the same traits as a psychopath where you have
25:48
Speaker 4: no empathy, where you're just like, or does it make
25:50
Speaker 4: you a great leader?
25:51
Speaker 1: Right?
25:51
Speaker 4: Because you're like, Hey, since you don't have no empathy,
25:53
Speaker 4: you'll make decisions that they save humanity, just that not
25:57
Speaker 4: someone that has the empathy may not make so.
26:00
Speaker 5: So I do think he makes a good argument.
26:02
Speaker 4: And obviously, like his bias is on the table of
26:05
Speaker 4: like how he feels about politicians, but mine was as well.
26:09
Speaker 1: So this one is the one that I have the
26:13
Speaker 1: most thoughts about in all the different stuff. I kind
26:15
Speaker 1: of broke it up in like the three sections, and
26:18
Speaker 1: this is like the third one. This is like the
26:20
Speaker 1: psychopath section. But I've got mixed feelings, right, because the
26:24
Speaker 1: first two thirds of this movie, this documentary, Corbett is
26:29
Speaker 1: talking about how psychiatry has been weaponized to discredit dissenters,
26:34
Speaker 1: or discredit your opposition and get them locked up or
26:37
Speaker 1: at the very least discredited, at the worst locked up
26:41
Speaker 1: or youthanized or whatever, right, and that it's maybe morally
26:45
Speaker 1: wrong to do that. But then he gets into this
26:48
Speaker 1: psychopath and it's like, nah, bro, it's not the crazy
26:51
Speaker 1: they call you, like, it's these other people and they're crazy.
26:54
Speaker 1: And look, here's this survey of eight questions and if
26:57
Speaker 1: you answer these eight questions this way, and that means
27:00
Speaker 1: you're a psychopath and maybe you shouldn't be part of
27:03
Speaker 1: Like it's it's almost like, in my mind, he either
27:06
Speaker 1: has to be doing this intentionally, like as a ironic
27:10
Speaker 1: way of turning the same like weaponizing it the same
27:13
Speaker 1: way against another class. But I don't know. James's incredibly
27:17
Speaker 1: smart and he knows his stuff, so I'm gonna give
27:20
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt here, but there is a huge,
27:23
Speaker 1: huge risk of this turning completely like hypocritical when he
27:27
Speaker 1: gets to the section of you know, they used to
27:30
Speaker 1: call people crazy and that's wrong, but the real crazy
27:33
Speaker 1: ones are these politicians you know.
27:35
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, I agree, like because it gets hypercritical,
27:39
Speaker 4: but I took it the way of like being more antagonistic, right, Like, well,
27:43
Speaker 4: I guess you, according to your official documentation, you're a psychopath. Like,
27:48
Speaker 4: but again, you don't know. I don't know what he
27:51
Speaker 4: is real intentions where that's just how I took it.
27:53
Speaker 1: I got it. Yeah, Like so that the tongue in
27:55
Speaker 1: cheek using your own medicine against you approach, it's a
27:59
Speaker 1: very clever approach. It's not clear that that's what he's doing,
28:03
Speaker 1: but I do think that he's clever enough to have
28:06
Speaker 1: done it that way. So again, benefit of the dell.
28:09
Speaker 5: No, I agree, man.
28:11
Speaker 4: And then he goes into projections of psychopaths and that's
28:14
Speaker 4: kind of the same weather where he goes through the
28:17
Speaker 4: questions and what actually makes you a psychopath as you
28:21
Speaker 4: alluded to, and then it goes to my favorite part, Yeah, pathocracy, right,
28:26
Speaker 4: like the end it all, because I've never heard of pathocracy.
28:28
Speaker 5: I was like, what he was pathocracy?
28:30
Speaker 4: Right?
28:31
Speaker 5: And pathocracy is a form of government where a minority
28:35
Speaker 5: of people with personality disorders run it.
28:38
Speaker 4: So that's kind of where he goes to the structure
28:41
Speaker 4: of everything and he breaks down like the structure of
28:44
Speaker 4: how governments run by these crazy people that punish dissonance
28:51
Speaker 4: and call it madness.
28:53
Speaker 5: And kind of like it's his tail in where he
28:55
Speaker 5: wraps it up.
28:56
Speaker 4: He's like in a nice little tight package of pathocracy
28:59
Speaker 4: is pretty much these psychopaths controlling you and telling you
29:03
Speaker 4: that hey.
29:04
Speaker 5: You're crazy.
29:05
Speaker 4: I'm not crazy because you think something different than I think.
29:09
Speaker 5: And that's kind of the explanation.
29:11
Speaker 4: And that's where I really like it, because then you're like, Okay,
29:14
Speaker 4: that might be over right. A lot of documentaries, but
29:16
Speaker 4: I do appreciate Corbett's approach of here's my solution.
29:20
Speaker 5: He kind of starts going through how what can we
29:22
Speaker 5: do right now?
29:23
Speaker 4: Whether you disagree with the solution or like, I just
29:26
Speaker 4: like that's something when people introduce their thoughts of what
29:30
Speaker 4: we could do or a possibility.
29:32
Speaker 5: And one example he brought up I really liked.
29:34
Speaker 4: He goes through how pathology and how they use you know,
29:38
Speaker 4: people kind of go, oh, these people are being bad,
29:40
Speaker 4: or when you see people complying to twenty twenty right,
29:42
Speaker 4: it makes other people comply.
29:44
Speaker 5: Right, They're like, oh, I better wear a mask because
29:45
Speaker 5: he's wearing a mask.
29:46
Speaker 4: But he's like, it can also be used opposite, and
29:49
Speaker 4: he shows an example of a Romanian dictator who's like
29:55
Speaker 4: giving a speech and like one guy in the crowd
29:59
Speaker 4: is like boo, yeah, you suck, and then everybody's like yeah,
30:02
Speaker 4: this guy does suck and it just starts a wave.
30:05
Speaker 5: Now is that accurate?
30:06
Speaker 3: Is it?
30:07
Speaker 5: I don't know, but that's you can't tell through the video.
30:09
Speaker 4: But then people start I don't know what they're saying
30:11
Speaker 4: because I don't speak Romanian, but from how he describes it,
30:14
Speaker 4: of then they started chanting and then like a revolution started,
30:17
Speaker 4: an overthrow, and not that he's saying an overthrow, but
30:20
Speaker 4: then he goes into the if you show more empathy
30:22
Speaker 4: and love to people, that that could spread as well.
30:25
Speaker 4: But I do like the concept of like you can
30:27
Speaker 4: as well change people's perspective or thoughts by questioning things
30:32
Speaker 4: and being vocal about it.
30:34
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I do like documentaries that say, and here's
30:38
Speaker 1: if it's pointing out a problem, especially if it's conspiracy
30:41
Speaker 1: to say and here's the solution. So James Corbett's version
30:44
Speaker 1: in this documentary that the solution is civil disobedience essentially,
30:48
Speaker 1: and he points out that wanting it was nineteen eighty
30:51
Speaker 1: nine and the Romanian leader's name was like Nicole Cusco
30:56
Speaker 1: or something. I'm not gonna try to pronounce it, but
30:59
Speaker 1: if you just look look up nineteen eighty nine, Romanian
31:02
Speaker 1: guy gets booted out. Although when this example came up,
31:06
Speaker 1: it was like, okay, well, the leader of Romania is
31:11
Speaker 1: more like maybe the mayor of Alabama or something, or
31:14
Speaker 1: the sorry governor of Alabama, more than like a president,
31:18
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like it's a different level
31:20
Speaker 1: of course, you know, if we're talking Monaco, or if
31:23
Speaker 1: we're talking like you know, maybe now are Switzerland. Maybe
31:26
Speaker 1: now my ears prick up a little bit. But also
31:28
Speaker 1: I feel like that part was maybe a gross oversimplification,
31:32
Speaker 1: because it wasn't just that a guy in the crowd
31:35
Speaker 1: was like, boo, you suck and the crowd turned. It
31:38
Speaker 1: was that that leader also did not have full support
31:41
Speaker 1: of the military and the police, and the entertainment industry
31:45
Speaker 1: and the news media and having real time advisors. In
31:48
Speaker 1: his ears, he didn't have anywhere near the same level
31:51
Speaker 1: of power as the people that were, you know, legitimately
31:54
Speaker 1: talking about that are instituting these things. So I don't
31:57
Speaker 1: think the Romanian leader was is sitting on the board
32:01
Speaker 1: of Tavistock Institute and you know, dictating things. If if
32:05
Speaker 1: he were then that one single guy in the crowd
32:08
Speaker 1: going boo, you suck, he would have been hit with
32:09
Speaker 1: a salt pellette and carted away and locked up, right,
32:12
Speaker 1: So it's there's there's a little bit more to it
32:15
Speaker 1: than just single acts of dis obedience. I guess I'll
32:19
Speaker 1: just leave it at that part, but I an'll think
32:21
Speaker 1: it was a great example though.
32:22
Speaker 4: You right, raise a good point too, because that guy
32:26
Speaker 4: could also be instituted from the Tavistock, right, or he
32:29
Speaker 4: could be an implanted guy that wants to get rid
32:32
Speaker 4: of this Romanian leader so you can usher in the
32:34
Speaker 4: new regime.
32:35
Speaker 5: So there it can go all ways. I agree.
32:38
Speaker 4: I just like the example of like, I know what
32:40
Speaker 4: he was trying to do. He's trying to cherry pick
32:42
Speaker 4: of like something of like, look, we could change it.
32:44
Speaker 5: But I'm with you. It's it's not as easy as said.
32:47
Speaker 5: But I think he could be done on a different level.
32:49
Speaker 1: But I think they also at the end he maybe
32:53
Speaker 1: like hurts his point a little bit in my opinion,
32:56
Speaker 1: because he shows the Stanford Prison Experience experiment and he
33:01
Speaker 1: does the Milgrum experiment, so the stanf in prisoners where
33:03
Speaker 1: he just arbitrarily divide people into prisoners and to you know,
33:08
Speaker 1: the guards and just let them role play. And what
33:12
Speaker 1: happens is the guards will start to legitimately be like
33:15
Speaker 1: inhuman they will start to be very indecent people, and
33:18
Speaker 1: the prisoners will start like hiding stuff, like they'll actually
33:21
Speaker 1: start to roleplay these things that's nearly impossible to snap
33:25
Speaker 1: out of. And then there's the Milgrim experiment where if
33:27
Speaker 1: an authority figure in a lab coat is just like, hey,
33:30
Speaker 1: hit that button that electrocutes that guy, and you're like,
33:33
Speaker 1: are you sure it's not gonna hurt And as long
33:35
Speaker 1: as the lab coat guy's like, no, na, he'll be fine.
33:37
Speaker 1: You're like, all right, I mean you're wearing a lab coats,
33:39
Speaker 1: so I guess. And that guy was able to confirm
33:42
Speaker 1: that humans like he did this like over forty times,
33:45
Speaker 1: and it consistently that they'll just do what a guy
33:48
Speaker 1: in a lab coat says. Combined with if you arbitrarily
33:51
Speaker 1: split people apart and give some power, they'll act horrible
33:54
Speaker 1: to the people without power, all of that almost seems
33:58
Speaker 1: like it's not psychopaths at work. Psychopaths are like four
34:02
Speaker 1: percent of the population. It's more just like human nature.
34:06
Speaker 1: And at the risk of sounding you know, like a
34:09
Speaker 1: like a millennial or something like the system that it's
34:12
Speaker 1: the system man, but it's well it's the combination. And
34:15
Speaker 1: I think he conveys this, but he doesn't like specifically
34:18
Speaker 1: state it that in a system that rewards someone that
34:21
Speaker 1: doesn't have guilt that holds them back, that like you
34:24
Speaker 1: can make decisions without any sort of guilt or remorse.
34:27
Speaker 1: Now you've got less friction. And if it's a small
34:30
Speaker 1: minority of people four percent of the population that can
34:33
Speaker 1: do that and not feel remorseful or guilt about the
34:36
Speaker 1: things they do, then they will maybe naturally rise to
34:39
Speaker 1: the top because the system does not have any functionality
34:43
Speaker 1: built in to be like, well, he's a good guy,
34:45
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like he meant well, Like
34:46
Speaker 1: the system doesn't have those kind of flags baked in.
34:49
Speaker 1: None of our systems do. So, like these psychopaths can
34:52
Speaker 1: rise to these levels of power because they don't have
34:56
Speaker 1: this extra four percent dragging them back that everyone else does.
35:00
Speaker 1: But I don't know if there's a solution for that.
35:01
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can just like civil disobedience
35:04
Speaker 1: your way out of like human condition as a.
35:07
Speaker 4: Whole hidden treasures and overboard moments. For me, I like
35:23
Speaker 4: all this whole film, Like again my bias on the table.
35:26
Speaker 4: One thing that I liked is that with James Corbett,
35:28
Speaker 4: I do learn some stuff that I didn't know.
35:31
Speaker 5: And when we were going over.
35:35
Speaker 4: The Milgrim experiments, I did like how I mean, didn't
35:38
Speaker 4: necessarily sway me any other way, but it just kind
35:41
Speaker 4: of gave me more of a picture of humanity in
35:44
Speaker 4: general of where it's like, yeah, not only was it
35:46
Speaker 4: this Milgred experiment, but it's been multiple different times in
35:50
Speaker 4: different places with people that like switched off. Like a
35:54
Speaker 4: guy came and it was like, well, now I'm the doctor.
35:56
Speaker 4: Here's a lab coat, went to like more dingy places
35:58
Speaker 4: and the results did very but what it just reinforces
36:02
Speaker 4: like people going like, oh if it looks official building,
36:06
Speaker 4: an official lab coat, an official file, whether it be media, science,
36:12
Speaker 4: you know, medical whatever, it made politician the right suit
36:15
Speaker 4: that they are going to comply. But it was interesting
36:18
Speaker 4: to reinforce that. To know, I thought that was a
36:20
Speaker 4: real hidden treasure for me of going, yeah, that solidifies
36:24
Speaker 4: my opinion on that that have people really based on
36:27
Speaker 4: what they feel is official.
36:30
Speaker 1: I think all my hidden treasures on this one because
36:33
Speaker 1: and not to just like pat myself on back or anything,
36:35
Speaker 1: but like so much of this I had heard and
36:38
Speaker 1: seen a million times before in articles and documentaries and
36:42
Speaker 1: anyone that's been paying attention for the last two decades,
36:44
Speaker 1: like you've seen a lot of this stuff, but Corbett
36:48
Speaker 1: brings receipts and he's got so many examples, and there
36:51
Speaker 1: were a handful of examples that I hadn't heard before
36:55
Speaker 1: that kind of rocked my world a little bit. The
36:57
Speaker 1: biggest one and this is weigh in the weeds for
36:59
Speaker 1: most people, but for me. He mentions Julian Huxley wrote
37:03
Speaker 1: something called The Tissue Culture King, and I hadn't heard.
37:06
Speaker 1: I'm aware of Julian Huxley. He's the brother of Outus Huxley,
37:10
Speaker 1: the one that wrote Brave New World and gave us
37:13
Speaker 1: like all the names for psychedelics and made psychedelics pop culture.
37:16
Speaker 1: Like Outus Huxley at a big part of that, along
37:19
Speaker 1: with like dystopian literature. Well, his brother Julian Huxley, the
37:25
Speaker 1: two of them, they kind of run like a eugenics corporation,
37:28
Speaker 1: like a eugenics foundation that's still in business today. I
37:32
Speaker 1: think it's the Huxley Huxley Foundation, and that their dad
37:36
Speaker 1: was the voice piece for Darwin. I believe Thomas Huxley,
37:40
Speaker 1: so like they have deep roots in using the medical
37:44
Speaker 1: and academic establishments and weaponizing and so anyways, Julian Huxley
37:48
Speaker 1: writes this thing called the Tissue Culture King, and apparently
37:51
Speaker 1: this is where the tinfoil hat meme comes from. It
37:54
Speaker 1: comes from Huxley. I have to go and read this
37:57
Speaker 1: entire thing for myself to actually see if I can pinpoint.
38:00
Speaker 1: But if that's true, that absolutely blows my mind that
38:03
Speaker 1: the Huxleys are behind yet another massive American cultural meme
38:09
Speaker 1: of the tinfoil hat. So that was a big one.
38:12
Speaker 1: There was another some specific examples that this lady her
38:15
Speaker 1: last name was Swinny, and she's in New Zealand, right,
38:19
Speaker 1: So she's in New Zealand, it's five years after nine
38:22
Speaker 1: eleven's like two thousand and six, and she's talking to
38:26
Speaker 1: her co workers thinking about like Big Pharma, being critical
38:30
Speaker 1: of Big Pharma, and she mentions nine to eleven being
38:32
Speaker 1: an inside job, and her coworkers call the authorities. She's
38:37
Speaker 1: put into a psychiatric ward over mentioning nine to eleven
38:41
Speaker 1: being an inside job to her co workers five years
38:44
Speaker 1: after it had happened. That was mind blowing. And in
38:47
Speaker 1: New Zealand, like she's getting arrested for an opinion she
38:50
Speaker 1: has on American politics on the other side of the
38:54
Speaker 1: world that was kind of a wild And then he
38:57
Speaker 1: really goes on and says that none of this isolated,
39:00
Speaker 1: that if you look at the twenty nineteen twenty twenty pandemic,
39:04
Speaker 1: that there was a guy, doctor Nass forty two years
39:07
Speaker 1: gets his license suspended for disagreeing with the lockdown narrative.
39:12
Speaker 1: And then also doctor Binder, who's his cardiologist, gets arrested
39:18
Speaker 1: in his office by sixty police officers an anti terrorism
39:22
Speaker 1: unit for talking out about lockdowns on social media and
39:26
Speaker 1: he wrote like a blog post that went viral that
39:29
Speaker 1: caught the attention of his colleagues, and they called the police,
39:32
Speaker 1: and they gave him an ultimatum, and they basically said
39:35
Speaker 1: either take medication and go home or stay under psychiatric
39:39
Speaker 1: hold for six more weeks. And they didn't mention which
39:43
Speaker 1: one of those he took. So for me, I'm just like,
39:46
Speaker 1: I'll snort it right now. Well, well I'll take four
39:50
Speaker 1: of them right now. Just approve let me out of here.
39:52
Speaker 1: But that those were like these examples, and that it's
39:57
Speaker 1: still going on, like by referencing twenty nineteen twenty twenty.
40:00
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, we're not talking nineteen thirties or nineteen
40:03
Speaker 1: forties or sixties or seventies or eighties when oppositional defiant
40:08
Speaker 1: disorder comes out, Like this has been a constant thing
40:11
Speaker 1: for the last hundred plus years and it's not going away.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the doctor Thomas Binder was a big one for
40:17
Speaker 4: me too, because it's more recent, and it's like and
40:20
Speaker 4: the Zealand Woman too, because like you said, it's nine
40:23
Speaker 4: to eleven, has nothing to do with New Zealand and
40:26
Speaker 4: you're just bringing it up in a casual conversation and
40:29
Speaker 4: someone's like they're a nutbag, like go get them away,
40:32
Speaker 4: and the fact that you can be locked up for
40:35
Speaker 4: stuff like that. And then it got me thinking, like
40:38
Speaker 4: about California prop one. So there's this like expansion of
40:42
Speaker 4: mental health things that are being now, not only the
40:45
Speaker 4: expansion of like where let's almost force mental health to
40:48
Speaker 4: the homeless and the veterans. And I'm like, oh, they're
40:52
Speaker 4: euthanizing these people, but either like let's get rid of
40:54
Speaker 4: the homeless another way.
40:56
Speaker 5: And I think you can see these factors being in play.
41:02
Speaker 1: Oh so what about the overboard You got any for
41:05
Speaker 1: James Corbett, you cant see this, so be careful.
41:09
Speaker 5: Yeah.
41:09
Speaker 4: I guess if anything, like I think for other people,
41:13
Speaker 4: like they may not get like his points.
41:16
Speaker 5: I don't know if it can go for the normy maybe.
41:18
Speaker 4: But I think it's easy to digest. I think it's
41:20
Speaker 4: easy to get through and it's good examples. I guess
41:23
Speaker 4: if I had to critique, maybe some of the overboard
41:26
Speaker 4: moments would be simplified, simplification of how to get out
41:31
Speaker 4: of this mess. But again, you have to come with
41:33
Speaker 4: some solution, So I mean, I give that with a
41:35
Speaker 4: grain of salt.
41:37
Speaker 1: So I'll have to just because I get talking points
41:40
Speaker 1: from Tavistock. So they sent me a list of things
41:42
Speaker 1: that I had to mention as criticisms of this particular documentary.
41:47
Speaker 1: So the first one, which you kind of alluded to,
41:51
Speaker 1: which it might not be super normy friendly, just because
41:54
Speaker 1: he talks very fast. As someone that also talks fast,
41:58
Speaker 1: but he talks really like I had a I couldn't
42:00
Speaker 1: watch this in fast. If anything, you might need to
42:02
Speaker 1: slow it down a little bit and keep pausing and
42:04
Speaker 1: like like oh what what book did he just say?
42:07
Speaker 1: What point?
42:07
Speaker 7: Oh?
42:07
Speaker 1: Who said that? Like there's a lot of stopping and
42:10
Speaker 1: starting when I had to watch this, it's good, but
42:12
Speaker 1: it's a lot for sure. And also I think that
42:15
Speaker 1: this we're calling this a documentary, and it seems like
42:20
Speaker 1: it's a really strong debate position or like an op
42:23
Speaker 1: ed with visuals more than a traditional documentary. And it's
42:28
Speaker 1: really hard to quantify what that means, just because of
42:31
Speaker 1: all the different things that we've seen so far. So
42:33
Speaker 1: it feels more to me like long form video content,
42:37
Speaker 1: well researched, well edited, but for some reason, maybe just
42:41
Speaker 1: like stupid gatekeeping in my head. But like I struggle
42:44
Speaker 1: to be like, and this is a documentary versus and
42:46
Speaker 1: this is an hour and a half long YouTube slash
42:49
Speaker 1: rumble slash otyssey video or whatever. Is there even a
42:52
Speaker 1: line between those things? I guess I don't really know,
42:55
Speaker 1: because how we watched Michael Serion do with two and
42:57
Speaker 1: a half hour PowerPoint presentation and I consider that a documentary,
43:01
Speaker 1: I guess, so maybe maybe it's pointless to even try
43:04
Speaker 1: and like nitpick between those. But for example, we recently
43:08
Speaker 1: saw Zoo, which was a movie about dudes that bang
43:11
Speaker 1: a horse. But man, like the cinematography and the angle,
43:15
Speaker 1: just like there was something about the production quality of that.
43:19
Speaker 1: That's like, man, that's a documentary. Those dudes baging that. Man,
43:21
Speaker 1: that's a documentary. But now you're like something really important,
43:25
Speaker 1: the Tavistok Institute, and you know, using psychiatry is weaponar
43:29
Speaker 1: like that is a million times more important than what
43:31
Speaker 1: these dudes were doing with a horse out in the
43:33
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere. But that gets like this other level
43:37
Speaker 1: of treatment and vision. And I think that James is
43:39
Speaker 1: capable of all that. But anyway, that's I guess that's
43:42
Speaker 1: my overboard. And there's a few different claims that he
43:45
Speaker 1: made that I was like, eh, I don't know if
43:47
Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree. One of them was that
43:51
Speaker 1: extracting false confessions was was the ultimate point of the
43:55
Speaker 1: CIA's torture program. And this was kind of based on
43:58
Speaker 1: whenever someone in the middle of Harry goes to a
44:00
Speaker 1: talk and they hear someone like, oh, this is how
44:02
Speaker 1: we should control people, that someone in the military takes
44:05
Speaker 1: notes and they actually go and do that thing. But
44:08
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I know enough. I was in
44:10
Speaker 1: the military. I know enough people that went to some
44:13
Speaker 1: of these sites and the as an MP in the
44:16
Speaker 1: military police, and like some people at seventeen years old
44:20
Speaker 1: went into the military ready to torture and break somebody's
44:23
Speaker 1: fingers for fun and profit. I promise you that it's
44:26
Speaker 1: it rocked me to my core as like another seventeen
44:30
Speaker 1: year old that was like, damn, dude, there's some psychopaths
44:33
Speaker 1: up in here that are getting like dinner telling me like, hey,
44:36
Speaker 1: why did you join infantry? Just curious, why did you
44:38
Speaker 1: join infantry in the Marines? Like you had straight a's
44:42
Speaker 1: in school, And someone saying like it's the only way
44:45
Speaker 1: that I can legally kill people for money, and we're
44:47
Speaker 1: just like okay, like maybe you're being an edge lord,
44:49
Speaker 1: but they're gonna put a gun in your hand and
44:51
Speaker 1: they're going to give you that opportunity and they're gonna
44:53
Speaker 1: pay you for it. So anyways, I don't I don't
44:55
Speaker 1: know if it takes the Tavistok Institute and mk Ultra
44:59
Speaker 1: program to make humans act horrible to each other. So
45:02
Speaker 1: I guess that's that's a personal issue that I've got.
45:05
Speaker 1: And then also just this premise of that you need
45:09
Speaker 1: like this coordinated effort to you know, get people to comply,
45:12
Speaker 1: and then it requires all this like state intervention. I
45:16
Speaker 1: don't know if what you're like elementary school was like,
45:19
Speaker 1: but if there was a moment in like first grade
45:21
Speaker 1: and someone's like, you know, ew Sean poop his pants whatever, right,
45:26
Speaker 1: and someone calls you like poopy pant Sean, or they
45:28
Speaker 1: call you stinky, like that name might stick with you
45:31
Speaker 1: until middle school or until you move out of town.
45:34
Speaker 1: And that didn't require the CIA to sit everyone down
45:37
Speaker 1: and give everyone instructions. Again, I think that like humans
45:40
Speaker 1: might just have a propensity to do horrible things to
45:43
Speaker 1: each other for not even great reasons, and it doesn't
45:46
Speaker 1: have to be trained. It's like inherently. Maybe it's the system,
45:50
Speaker 1: but maybe also it's just our brains.
45:52
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I guess you could make an argument that
45:55
Speaker 4: it's part of the system. And then it goes into
45:57
Speaker 4: the parenting because you could see how parenting has changed
46:00
Speaker 4: a bit. But I think that there's an element to
46:04
Speaker 4: sometimes you make fun of somebody or use these examples
46:08
Speaker 4: to kind of like butcher your self worth or boost
46:11
Speaker 4: your credibility with the first graders. Right now, you're it's
46:15
Speaker 4: a human nature thing that I think that they do
46:17
Speaker 4: miss a lot on a lot of these kind of films.
46:19
Speaker 4: Because mk Ultra was studying more than just like we're
46:22
Speaker 4: gonna make them comply or we're gonna make a torture
46:25
Speaker 4: them to give us the answers. It's like or maybe
46:28
Speaker 4: some of these guys were like I kind of like
46:30
Speaker 4: torturing people, Like I kind of like reprogramming brains.
46:33
Speaker 5: I think it's cool to devolve somebody and make up
46:38
Speaker 5: Like some.
46:39
Speaker 4: Of these guys could be like, hey, I in my opinion, like, hey,
46:42
Speaker 4: let's brainwash this guy into bringing buying a bunch of
46:46
Speaker 4: explosive and walking into a school, right, you know what
46:48
Speaker 4: I'm saying.
46:49
Speaker 1: Like they just connect dots, That's all they're doing. Just
46:52
Speaker 1: connect dots.
46:53
Speaker 5: They see it already right there.
46:54
Speaker 4: And I think that the conspiratory community sometimes misses that. Right,
46:58
Speaker 4: We're so into the oh man, they're brainwashing us, are
47:01
Speaker 4: doing this, and you're like, yeah, but there's also shitty
47:03
Speaker 4: people man like that would be willing to do that.
47:06
Speaker 1: I think that's a good example of that is like
47:07
Speaker 1: that of doctor Ewan Cameron that gets brought up in
47:11
Speaker 1: this documentary because he was the one that did psychic driving,
47:14
Speaker 1: and he was looking into medically induced comas to give
47:17
Speaker 1: people amnesia or to implant new thoughts. And I legitimately
47:21
Speaker 1: think that there was something of him as like he
47:24
Speaker 1: was interested in changing the brain and maybe he was
47:27
Speaker 1: a psychopath. Like he had to turn off his empathy
47:30
Speaker 1: switch because people are being like seriously armed under his care, right,
47:34
Speaker 1: But like this is his thing, This is him doing
47:36
Speaker 1: what he wants to do, living his best life. Thirty
47:40
Speaker 1: second degree Scottish Wriite Mason by the way, I'm pretty sure.
47:43
Speaker 1: But anyways, he's doing this thing and then like a
47:45
Speaker 1: military guy or a CIA guy gets wind of it
47:48
Speaker 1: and he's like, hey, how would you like an extra
47:50
Speaker 1: thirty grand for your research? No questions asked, Just keep
47:53
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing. Here's a little feel for the fire.
47:56
Speaker 1: You find anything cool, send me back a report. That's
47:58
Speaker 1: all I ask. He can gradual relations. You are now
48:01
Speaker 1: part of the mk ulture system. But that guy they
48:04
Speaker 1: offered that thirty grand or whatever for real, and it
48:06
Speaker 1: wasn't thirty but like for inflation. Right at the time,
48:09
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, how about seven hundred bucks. They're like, okay, hell,
48:11
Speaker 1: this is job isn't paying that much. But what happens
48:15
Speaker 1: is the guy that offers that, he's like, oh, the
48:19
Speaker 1: things that I'm hearing from this Canadian scientist will go
48:21
Speaker 1: well with this, like Middle Eastern terrorist that I've been
48:24
Speaker 1: talking to, and that Canadian doesn't know anything about that
48:27
Speaker 1: other part. Everything is completely compartmentalized. But and you repeat
48:32
Speaker 1: that often enough and now everyone's in on something.
48:35
Speaker 4: I mean, we saw that people will get tickled by
48:39
Speaker 4: a man for two thousand bucks, so pretty sure seven
48:42
Speaker 4: hundred bucks. Would you do a lot of work about
48:50
Speaker 4: that time? Sink or swim?
48:53
Speaker 1: Look man for someone that hasn't been exposed to all
48:56
Speaker 1: these ideas already, And there's fine explanations. Maybe you had
49:02
Speaker 1: like a job or a life to live or something
49:04
Speaker 1: you never got down these rabbit holes. This is such
49:06
Speaker 1: a great overview, right, It gets into so many different examples.
49:10
Speaker 1: It makes a really great point. It even gives you
49:13
Speaker 1: and here's how to fix it at the end, which
49:15
Speaker 1: we rarely get. So I appreciate all that and I
49:18
Speaker 1: can't get over it. It doesn't feel like a documentary
49:21
Speaker 1: the same way people are like, oh, that AI art
49:23
Speaker 1: just doesn't have soul, like I don't know exactly what
49:26
Speaker 1: I'm describing, and that it doesn't feel like a documentary.
49:29
Speaker 1: But we've seen PowerPoint presentations and given them swims before,
49:35
Speaker 1: so all that feels nitpicky. I give this one absolutely
49:38
Speaker 1: a swim. I think that this is well researched. I
49:42
Speaker 1: was like learning new things. It's kind of like if
49:45
Speaker 1: that's true about Julian Huxley, and I believe it is
49:47
Speaker 1: because Corbett's receipts are impeccable. That's I'll never forget that.
49:52
Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. The Huxleys gave us the tinfoil
49:54
Speaker 1: hat motif.
49:56
Speaker 4: And I think this film really reaches across stile and
49:59
Speaker 4: it kind of like combines like the years of research
50:02
Speaker 4: in decades of like MK ultra and psychiatry and the
50:06
Speaker 4: institutionalized and what's going on. I like how it modernizes
50:10
Speaker 4: what's going on to the dissisin that we have in
50:14
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50:17
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50:21
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50:25
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50:29
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50:32
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50:35
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50:39
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50:41
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50:43
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50:46
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50:49
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50:52
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