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Speaker 1: It is Tuesday, December eleven. This is Jaguar's Happy Hour.
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Speaker 1: That it wouldn't be a Tuesday Jaguars Happy Hour without
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Speaker 1: the Keene insight from former Jaguar Josh Scoby and now
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Speaker 1: a guy who's committed to saving the dumb Ostrich J. P. Shadrick. Yes, sure,
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Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguar's Happy Hour, presented by Jedni Jedi on
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Speaker 1: this Tuesday. Welcome in j What a rousing start today?
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Speaker 1: Was that your nickname? And start over again? Don't we?
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Speaker 1: That threw everybody off the dumb Ostrich? What is the
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Speaker 1: dumb Ostrich? Is that? Was that your nickname in high school?
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Speaker 1: I have no idea. I didn't think I had that
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Speaker 1: long of a neck. I don't know. Were you pretty fast?
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Speaker 1: The fast you look, it's definitely not fast. Depends on
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Speaker 1: what we're talking about. I have no idea what we're
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Speaker 1: talking about. JP Shaddick. We shall move on. Here's what's
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Speaker 1: coming on on the show today. Yes, the Titans game recap,
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Speaker 1: because we must one more time Thursday Night football. Briefly,
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Speaker 1: it's like five days ago. We move on, briefly over
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Speaker 1: it and then figure out how to move forward from it. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: next up on the docket the Washington Redskins coming to town,
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Speaker 1: and we'll hear from Grant Paulson of one oh six
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Speaker 1: seven The Fan and d C and NBC Sports Washington.
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Speaker 1: He's also a columnist for The Athletic. He'll breakdown the Scanton.
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Speaker 1: They might be the only other more injured team than
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars in the league. Right now, by the way,
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Speaker 1: John Osan joins US senior writer and social Scobie. It
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Speaker 1: will not If you want to comment during the show,
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Speaker 1: please team Facebook page. Do so on our broadcast and
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Speaker 1: we'll get to some Facebook comments if they're worth a
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Speaker 1: darn yeah, please send us your your good comments. Uh,
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Speaker 1: and some some fun questions, because I mean we need some.
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Speaker 1: We need to live in the show up a little
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Speaker 1: bit and and not be so negative. Where did you
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Speaker 1: get that pool? Over by the way? Where is that
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Speaker 1: a staff issued I don't remember getting. You have to
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Speaker 1: know people for this one. Um. Uh. The people that
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Speaker 1: I know happened to be at the p G A
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Speaker 1: Tour superstore at the Town Center and I paid for it.
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Speaker 1: So I walk in and this was one of their
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Speaker 1: items that they used to have up on. The Jaguars
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Speaker 1: were playing well and um, so I bought it. Then
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Speaker 1: I worked out for this time of year when the
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Speaker 1: quarters zips are are perfect holidays. You're coming extra large?
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Speaker 1: Is my sidle? Remember that, Josh, I think they're they're
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Speaker 1: all sold out. It's great. Well okay, there's out of luck. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: next and I'll just freeze next. Um Jags Titans, since
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Speaker 1: we must. Yes, that was five days ago or so.
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Speaker 1: But the Jags fell on Thursday Night football and it
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Speaker 1: was tight for a moment and then before the game started, well,
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Speaker 1: there was the momentum swing right. The Jacks had the
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Speaker 1: first in goal, right, and they were held out of
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Speaker 1: the end zone on the fourth down and the next
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Speaker 1: play nine yards to the house for Derrick Henry, and
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Speaker 1: the game really wasn't the same after that. That was
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Speaker 1: the turning point of the football game. It really was.
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Speaker 1: It's basically been the the synopsis of this season. The
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Speaker 1: Jaguars couldn't get one yard for a touchdown and the
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Speaker 1: other team gets the next play. So yeah, it was
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Speaker 1: a very frustrating game to watch, and especially watching a
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Speaker 1: local kid like Derrick Henry do what he did against
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Speaker 1: his Jaguar defense. It was It's not a very inspiring game.
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Speaker 1: To watch. He's got a little bit of a history
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Speaker 1: against the Jackson overwhelming, like he's motivated to play against
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Speaker 1: the Jacks. It's not like he's doing this kind of
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Speaker 1: thing all the time. You see his career numbers there
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Speaker 1: against the Jacks. He had four touchdowns in this previous
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Speaker 1: game and two others the rest of his time against
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Speaker 1: the Jags. But this was one where he got loose
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Speaker 1: and there was no no bringing him down, especially if
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Speaker 1: you try to go high on him. Yeah, that's that
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Speaker 1: was the main theme from that ninety nine yard touchdown run,
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Speaker 1: is you might need to try something else other than
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Speaker 1: going high on on Derrick Henry because he is a
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Speaker 1: large human being and with elusive speed. I think they
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Speaker 1: had him clocked up to on that. I mean, that's yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's like me in my asked in Martin speed. Because
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Speaker 1: it was impressive. Unfortunately, it was against the Jaguars and
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Speaker 1: a big loss, that's not a good one, and the
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Speaker 1: offense still had their struggles, let's say in this game,
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Speaker 1: of course, and that's just kind of how it's been
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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, trying to get something going
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Speaker 1: offensively and they can't find anything to really hang their
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Speaker 1: head on right now. No, there's really nothing that they
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Speaker 1: they can say, yeah, we're doing that, well, we're doing
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Speaker 1: this well. It's just been a collective effort of a
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Speaker 1: mediocre to to say it, the least. Um and Leonard
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Speaker 1: Fournett couldn't get anything going and in his average yard
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Speaker 1: per carry was not good. Um, it was just a
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Speaker 1: tough day to watch football, and unfortunately it was on
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Speaker 1: that national stage Thursday night. Not good. Um, not good
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Speaker 1: at all. You know, Kessler had some decent throws in
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Speaker 1: the game, Yeah he did, he did. I mean, his
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Speaker 1: numbers were not that bad. You could put up those
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Speaker 1: numbers in a game where your your defense doesn't give
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Speaker 1: up ninety nine yard touchdown runs and two eight yards
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Speaker 1: by one player and for rushing touchdowns, and you could
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Speaker 1: say that those are winning numbers. You could make that
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Speaker 1: work as a quarterback and say that's gonna be enough
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Speaker 1: to win. But unfortunately it was not last Thursday. You've
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Speaker 1: been on the field for games like this, Yes, of
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Speaker 1: course too many NFL player has, but you've been around here.
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Speaker 1: But um, when it gets a a like that late
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Speaker 1: in the football game, the defense is having trouble stuff
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Speaker 1: in the run, the offense can't move. I mean, what's
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Speaker 1: the sideline like, can't be a fun place? No, it's not,
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Speaker 1: it's not fun. I mean being a kicker, you're kind
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Speaker 1: of like the elephant on the wall or whatever that
6:17
Speaker 1: fly on the wall. They should say umphantly basically the
6:22
Speaker 1: same thing. Uh, you're the fly on the wall, just
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Speaker 1: kind of watching what's going on and observing the way
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Speaker 1: people react to to adversity. So it's a that kind
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Speaker 1: of moment in those type of games where you really
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Speaker 1: see people's true character revealed. And it's even though it's tough,
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Speaker 1: you want your leaders and you want your your guys
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Speaker 1: that you know are going to be around here for
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Speaker 1: a while or you who you want to be around
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Speaker 1: here for a while to have good character and to
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Speaker 1: to be able to overcome these type of things and
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Speaker 1: say the right things and do the right type of things.
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Speaker 1: And um, unfortunately, you know, we had another incident that
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Speaker 1: it wasn't once fun to watch as a Jaguar fan
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Speaker 1: and as a former player with Leonard Fournett and you know,
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Speaker 1: hopefully he learns from this type of thing. Well, they
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Speaker 1: said that Doug Brohan was asked about it yesterday and
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Speaker 1: so there was a racial slur thrown from the stands,
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Speaker 1: which is you know, obviously that's not a good thing
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Speaker 1: at all. And Leonard declined to talk in the locker room. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I don't blame him. So, I mean, he's been going
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Speaker 1: through a lot of stuff the last few weeks with
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Speaker 1: a suspension, you know, getting kicked out of the game,
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Speaker 1: and you know now this, but you know, if a
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Speaker 1: fan says something like that, you almost have to pretend
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Speaker 1: like you can't hear anything. And I'm sure for him,
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Speaker 1: it's just gotten to a frustrating level. And he reacted
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Speaker 1: and said some things and now anything you do is
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Speaker 1: going to be caught on camera with a cell phone
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Speaker 1: and whatnot. And you know, I'm sure he wishes he
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Speaker 1: hadn't done it, but at the same time, he was,
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Speaker 1: you know, defending himself, and yeah, in a good way
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Speaker 1: and maybe a bad way at the same time. And
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Speaker 1: he'll learn from it, just like everyone everyone should do
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Speaker 1: in the league. This is not the first or the
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Speaker 1: last time a player is um yelled to the stand.
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Speaker 1: It happens all the time, every single game. Yeah, I
8:13
Speaker 1: mean I I did it one time in particular and
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Speaker 1: got in trouble. And in fact, so man, we were
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Speaker 1: playing in Houston. It was early in my career, maybe
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Speaker 1: second or third year, and the band had gone on
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Speaker 1: the field, like a marching band had gone on the
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Speaker 1: field at halftime, and I went out there to kick
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Speaker 1: field goals and the marching band is out there, and
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm trying to get my work in before
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Speaker 1: the second half starts, and the marching band is literally
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Speaker 1: coming through where I'm trying to kick. So I grabbed
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Speaker 1: my my holder in the ball and just kind of
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Speaker 1: jogged off the field. And when I got to the sideline,
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Speaker 1: there was a fan in the stands of Houston fan
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Speaker 1: just ripping me, I mean, screaming at me, yelling at me,
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Speaker 1: calling me an idiot, distress act full for being on
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Speaker 1: the field while the marching band was on the field.
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Speaker 1: So I turned around and let him have it too,
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Speaker 1: and you know, said a few choice words, and um.
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Speaker 1: Come Wednesday, we get out out to practice and Jack
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Speaker 1: del Rio came up to me and said that that
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Speaker 1: fan happened to be sitting like right near his wife
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Speaker 1: and kids, and so you know, he's like, hey, just
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Speaker 1: next time, you know, don't respond, don't pretend, he told me,
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Speaker 1: Actually pretend like you're deaf. So from actually, from that
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Speaker 1: point on in my career, I tried to pretend like
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Speaker 1: I couldn't hear anything that fans in the stands were saying.
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Speaker 1: But it's hard, especially if they say something derogatory or offensive.
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Speaker 1: What don McClean say, The marching band refused to yield, right,
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Speaker 1: That's kind of what happened, basically, And I've seen that
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Speaker 1: happen to a couple other Kickers in the past in
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Speaker 1: fifteen years, where the marching bands out on the field.
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Speaker 1: You're trying to get your work in and they just
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Speaker 1: happened to be in the way. Yeah, you just gotta
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Speaker 1: put up with it. That's part of it. Let's get
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Speaker 1: just some Facebook. We've got a free good ones to
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Speaker 1: get us today, So I'll get your comments in and
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Speaker 1: we'll get to some decent ones during the show. Here.
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Speaker 1: Kyle Strickland is a good one here, So tell us
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Speaker 1: something we don't know. Let's talk about what we need
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Speaker 1: to do to fix it. Well, we'll fix it. That's
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Speaker 1: a that's a lot of it to fix. That's a
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Speaker 1: lot start. Yeah, very broad. Uh, Yeah, there's there's a
10:21
Speaker 1: lot to fix. Uh. We ran down these lists of
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Speaker 1: problems last week. And it's the quarterback, the running back,
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Speaker 1: the offensive line, the receivers, the tide end, and all
10:34
Speaker 1: of the defense from last week. So that's very broad. Um,
10:39
Speaker 1: they're trying to fix it and it didn't happen last week,
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Speaker 1: and hopefully this week something gets better. That's the thing.
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Speaker 1: There's not a magical one. No, there is no no Already.
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Speaker 1: You can't fix injuries magically. You can't make someone come
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Speaker 1: back and all of a sudden play Well, it's just
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Speaker 1: something that has to get into a domino effect, a
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Speaker 1: snowball effect, and get some positive momentum going and go
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Speaker 1: from there. But at this point that's just not the
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Speaker 1: way it's been. All Right, A few comments here Scott Lynch,
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Speaker 1: Jack's fan from day one from Greensboro, Well, thank you,
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Speaker 1: that's North Carolina. A very disappointing season, but a fan
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Speaker 1: for life. Hashtag Bolt City Brigade, brigade. Um, let's see here,
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Speaker 1: Casey Vallette always will be a fan. But what happened
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Speaker 1: from last year being almost in Super Bowl of barely winning.
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Speaker 1: It's not a complete sentence. Uh, Tom Tennant would bringing
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Speaker 1: Pause back as a coach boost the morale and discipline
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Speaker 1: of the team. I gotta tell you, I'm I'm kind
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Speaker 1: of I love Pause to death. Okay, me too, but
11:46
Speaker 1: he's gone, he's retired. Let it go for a little while, right. Yeah,
11:51
Speaker 1: there's there's so many fans that love Pause for you know,
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Speaker 1: his leadership ability and his playing ability ability, and there
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Speaker 1: were some fans that we're kind of on the fence
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Speaker 1: with him, which I don't understand why. I mean, he
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Speaker 1: was one of the top notch guys I've ever played with,
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Speaker 1: and yeah, he might be right. That comment could be
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Speaker 1: very accurate. They need some leadership, they need some discipline. Um,
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Speaker 1: They're they're making some decisions and you can tell it's
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Speaker 1: from the frustration of last year how well they did,
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Speaker 1: to the expectations of this season and to how poorly
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Speaker 1: they're playing and the results they've had. And you know what,
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Speaker 1: they're human beings. They're they're making poor decisions, they're getting
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Speaker 1: penalties for it, and they're gonna learn from it. It's
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Speaker 1: gonna be a year of reflection in the off season
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Speaker 1: for for these players, especially the big time guys that
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Speaker 1: are going to be here next year. Uh like Kelvin Smith,
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Speaker 1: Miles jack Um, you know, guys on the defense that
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Speaker 1: are very frustrated that are making these decisions on the
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Speaker 1: field that are causing a lot of bad things to happen.
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Speaker 1: And it's just it's sad. I mean, every everyone is
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Speaker 1: feeling this frustration. We're all kind of just doing this,
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Speaker 1: you know, the past ten weeks and that's just the
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Speaker 1: way it's been. What was that motion this everyone's just
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Speaker 1: a little clinched fists. Yeah, not not very happy. And
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Speaker 1: the entire city feels it. And you know, we all
13:19
Speaker 1: expected more and wanted more for this season, and when
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Speaker 1: it doesn't happen, frustration is let out. And it's happening
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Speaker 1: with the team too. A couple of other comments questions
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Speaker 1: here Stephen Weiner, do we try to change the passing
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Speaker 1: offense next year? Stick with a pounded mentality? Oh boy,
13:37
Speaker 1: you know, if you if you asked Pete Prisco on
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Speaker 1: Monday night, he says he's got to change the whole
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Speaker 1: philosophy and throw the ball around the yard a little
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Speaker 1: bit extreme. You need players to be able to do
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Speaker 1: that too. You need you need a quarterback to be
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Speaker 1: able to do it, and Pete probably means find a
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Speaker 1: quarterback that can throw it all over the yard the
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Speaker 1: way that a lot of NFL teams are built now
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Speaker 1: in the way that the NFL is going towards. But
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Speaker 1: we have Tom Coughlin, who he believes in playing good defense,
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Speaker 1: running the football, controlling the clock, and Doug Moron the
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Speaker 1: same philosophy. So that's what our philosophy is going to be.
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Speaker 1: While these guys are here, one more who we go
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Speaker 1: to break here? Jordan's dunne Will Bordles start doing construction
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Speaker 1: and ripping SIGs? Did he say that an interview a
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Speaker 1: while back, a couple of years ago he wasn't playing
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Speaker 1: football or something. I think, Yeah, that sounds about right.
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Speaker 1: That was when that uh meme came out with him
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Speaker 1: with the shades on and the cigarette and whatnot. But listen,
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Speaker 1: he is. If he's not here after the season, he's
14:43
Speaker 1: gonna be somewhere else. He's gonna be a backup. And
14:47
Speaker 1: you know, people that don't know Blake personally, I mean,
14:52
Speaker 1: he's such a good dude. He's done so much for
14:54
Speaker 1: this city, especially with his foundation and even this week,
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Speaker 1: the stuff that he's done, uh for the police officer
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Speaker 1: and his wife who was a bailiff for reporter. Yeah,
15:07
Speaker 1: I mean that type of stuff, it makes you root
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Speaker 1: for Blake, and that's why it's been unfortunate the way
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Speaker 1: it's happened for him, and you root for a guy
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Speaker 1: like that, and when it doesn't happen, it makes it
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Speaker 1: all that more sad. Planny to get Too will come
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Speaker 1: to you. Hell, looks good to talk to you. Guys.
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Speaker 1: That's the game week. How are you doing well? Man?
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Speaker 1: We're ready week fifteen. I don't know if either of
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Speaker 1: these teams thought they'd be at this point right now.
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Speaker 1: I mean they have to be Grant the two most
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Speaker 1: injured offenses in the league, certainly in Washington. We know
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Speaker 1: what's going on here in Jacksonville, but this is a
18:14
Speaker 1: banged up a couple of offenses going at it on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: It absolutely is and I think that's why both teams
18:20
Speaker 1: at least largely have gotten to the point this year
18:23
Speaker 1: where they are playing in devastated circumstances. But Washington, for
18:28
Speaker 1: those of your un listeners who don't know, this is
18:31
Speaker 1: a team that started the year with Alex Smith and
18:34
Speaker 1: basically while struggling to throw the ball, didn't turn the
18:36
Speaker 1: football over and got out to a five and two
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Speaker 1: and the six and three start. They've lost four in
18:42
Speaker 1: a row since, and they've lost five out of six,
18:44
Speaker 1: and they're now turning the ball over year in j
18:50
Speaker 1: Cruden's scheme, that thought was there wouldn't be a large
18:53
Speaker 1: drop off, and then McCoy in his second game got
18:55
Speaker 1: hurt as well. They both didn't just lead with minimal
18:58
Speaker 1: injury their way. So with those two guys out, Mark Sanchez,
19:02
Speaker 1: who was signed off the street twenty days after he
19:05
Speaker 1: was acquired, made a start last week, got benched just
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Speaker 1: after the half, and they're now on Josh Johnson their
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Speaker 1: fourth quarterback. We'll start a game in five contests, which
19:15
Speaker 1: is absolutely unheard of. There. Signing Johnson disaster for j
19:24
Speaker 1: Drew to the house standpoint, Yeah, Josh Johnson. I think
19:28
Speaker 1: his last meaningful pass in the league. It was like
19:31
Speaker 1: or something. Guy's been out of the league and not
19:32
Speaker 1: even close to football and Nia's come in and play
19:37
Speaker 1: and you know he actually it was a forty and
19:40
Speaker 1: nothing game when he entered. Granted, I'll give you that,
19:42
Speaker 1: but um, what was what was there anything positive about
19:46
Speaker 1: that performance from him last week? And what can we
19:48
Speaker 1: expect to see from him this week? Yeah, start with
19:54
Speaker 1: the fact that Mark Sanchez was a sitting duck, kind
19:56
Speaker 1: of cinder box for feet and mobile option in the pocket.
20:00
Speaker 1: And as I mentioned, the Redskins offensive line is completely
20:02
Speaker 1: banged up and there are two tackles have started throughout
20:05
Speaker 1: much of the season. Morgan moses that right tackle hasn't
20:08
Speaker 1: missed the game in Trent Williams as a Pro Bowl
20:10
Speaker 1: left tackle every year. But both of those does right
20:12
Speaker 1: now are shelves of themselves. O. They're playing through injuries
20:16
Speaker 1: and they're not playing at a high level on the
20:18
Speaker 1: inside there without their Pro Bowl right guard Brandon Sheriff,
20:21
Speaker 1: and they're starting left guard Shawn Laval. You got two backups,
20:25
Speaker 1: both of them were actually more tackles than they are
20:27
Speaker 1: guards playing on the interior. And then you got one
20:30
Speaker 1: of the two guys that had started all the games
20:32
Speaker 1: this season and their center a second year late round
20:34
Speaker 1: pick Chase Roullier. So behind that offensive line, Sanchez had
20:37
Speaker 1: no chance. He got sacked five times and what was
20:40
Speaker 1: essentially a half of football. Josh Johnson came in and
20:43
Speaker 1: he just ran all over the place. He was mobile
20:45
Speaker 1: and extended plays and he got out of the pocket
20:48
Speaker 1: and he didn't get that once. Nethleticism gave the Redskins
20:52
Speaker 1: a chance that frankly, Mark Sanchez did not, so that
20:57
Speaker 1: was a benefit. The ball came out pretty quickly, and
20:59
Speaker 1: he didn't make any really bad, risky throws into the
21:02
Speaker 1: very end of the game and he was just trying
21:04
Speaker 1: to throw his way to some point. So there was
21:07
Speaker 1: a lot to like about his performance. You mentioned it
21:09
Speaker 1: he hadn't made a throw in the league in two
21:10
Speaker 1: thousand eleven. Uh, there's no way he thought he was
21:13
Speaker 1: ever going to play in the NFL again. And then
21:15
Speaker 1: he went from being on the streets in the A
21:18
Speaker 1: A F Draft whatever that is too, being the Washington
21:21
Speaker 1: Redskin starting quarterback in the span of five days, which
21:24
Speaker 1: is pretty stunning. But he'll get another shot at it
21:26
Speaker 1: this week in Jacksonville. Hey Grant, Josh Scobe here. Uh,
21:31
Speaker 1: what are people in d C more surprised about Josh
21:35
Speaker 1: Johnson being there starting quarterback? Uh? This late in the season,
21:40
Speaker 1: especially with how the season started out for you or
21:43
Speaker 1: with our current presidency there in d C. Great question.
21:48
Speaker 1: I think people at this point are more surprised by
21:51
Speaker 1: Josh john because it's newer, it's recent. I think if
21:56
Speaker 1: you would have asked me the question going back to
21:58
Speaker 1: a couple novembers ago, the so might a little been
22:00
Speaker 1: a little bit different. There's a lot of talk about both.
22:03
Speaker 1: As you can imagine, Josh Johnson's a guy that nobody
22:11
Speaker 1: his name came up for a workout going back a
22:13
Speaker 1: few weeks ago and they chose Mark Sanchez over him.
22:16
Speaker 1: Then when McCoy went down, this was after the Smith injury.
22:19
Speaker 1: He's going through a terrible recovery already where he's had
22:21
Speaker 1: multiple procedures and he's got all kinds of issues in
22:24
Speaker 1: this question as whether or the ever play again, which
22:26
Speaker 1: is unfortunate. But when McCoy went down, they brought the
22:29
Speaker 1: same few quarterbacks back in for another workout and they
22:32
Speaker 1: chose Johnson because they played for thin people were but
22:39
Speaker 1: they assumed, well, this guy will never get on the field.
22:42
Speaker 1: It's doesn't really matter. And then Sanchez in that first
22:45
Speaker 1: start through two interceptions including a pick fix and forward
22:49
Speaker 1: passes were major accomplishments, and it was just absolute debacle.
22:53
Speaker 1: And so they said, what the heck, why don't we
22:55
Speaker 1: try this guy who's got some foot speed can actually
22:57
Speaker 1: maybe to create off script a little bay And they
23:01
Speaker 1: outscored the Giant sixteen enough and to close out the game. Now,
23:05
Speaker 1: I think a lot of that just had to do
23:06
Speaker 1: with the fact that the game was over and the
23:07
Speaker 1: Giants didn't care anymore either, but it's at least something
23:11
Speaker 1: that gave them a little bit fumentumento into this weekend.
23:15
Speaker 1: Grant Paulson with us from one O six seven of the
23:18
Speaker 1: the Fan in Washington, d C. And The Athletic. He's
23:21
Speaker 1: the DC columnist Adrian Peterson is thirty three years old
23:25
Speaker 1: doing this this year. He's behind obviously as you set
23:28
Speaker 1: a beat up offensive line. He's pushing for a thousand
23:31
Speaker 1: yards this season. He had a ninety yard touchdown recently.
23:35
Speaker 1: What what in the world's going on with a p
23:38
Speaker 1: and how is he getting this done? Grant Well, really
23:41
Speaker 1: is amazing and he does not seem the age, I'll see,
23:44
Speaker 1: I don't notice. The Jaguars have a lot to worry
23:47
Speaker 1: about this week on the front. But for the better
23:51
Speaker 1: part of a month now, that's incidentally, during his ritn't
23:57
Speaker 1: want those five out of seven fIF at a time.
24:00
Speaker 1: They were tapping into him early enough, they were able
24:03
Speaker 1: to stay out of the change, and they were playing
24:05
Speaker 1: with leads, and they would beat in the football summer
24:07
Speaker 1: between seventeen and twenty five times. When they lose, the
24:11
Speaker 1: opposite happens. And if the titary egg thing as to
24:13
Speaker 1: how do you get there? But they're behind and they
24:16
Speaker 1: throw it as they can't. They're not good at that.
24:18
Speaker 1: They weren't with Alex, they weren't with colpe McCoy, and
24:21
Speaker 1: they're certainly not going to be with Panchase or Jobson.
24:23
Speaker 1: And so there lies the problem. Peterson himself is just
24:26
Speaker 1: a guy who keeps himself an exceptional sheet h He
24:30
Speaker 1: was not fatigue him when he was getting the big
24:33
Speaker 1: work clothes. He would get four or five carries in
24:35
Speaker 1: a sixth play stretch and he wouldn't break a sweater
24:37
Speaker 1: or be fatigue. He is dealt with king injuries and
24:42
Speaker 1: all kinds of ailments, ailments and issues physically this season,
24:46
Speaker 1: brilliantly takes wonderful care of his body. He's just a
24:49
Speaker 1: little bit of a unicorn in terms of just how
24:51
Speaker 1: you need to. This is a guy who came back
24:55
Speaker 1: after bearing his a cl in the winter a couple
24:58
Speaker 1: of weeks before right now, several years ago, to rush
25:01
Speaker 1: for two thousand yards in next heat. So I don't
25:03
Speaker 1: really bet against him much, but I will say this,
25:06
Speaker 1: he's not running like he there early in the year.
25:08
Speaker 1: I don't think it's because of his age. I think
25:10
Speaker 1: it's because he's not close to healthy. And more importantly,
25:13
Speaker 1: I've mentioned the offensive line a couple of times. They've
25:18
Speaker 1: lost a starting tight end as well. They can't block
25:20
Speaker 1: at that position as well as they need to. So
25:23
Speaker 1: if you're a Jag wards saying, I don't know if
25:25
Speaker 1: there's anything necessarily to worry about defensively, and the the
25:28
Speaker 1: Redskins offense is not been able to manage the clapba
25:31
Speaker 1: at the huntle over the last couple of weeks. But
25:33
Speaker 1: the one thing I would say, maybe that would give
25:35
Speaker 1: you pause somehow you found out that the Jags defense
25:39
Speaker 1: was gonna struggle this week, Maybe it would just be
25:41
Speaker 1: that Josh Johnson runs around and does some things with
25:44
Speaker 1: his feet that scary you. But they just haven't been
25:47
Speaker 1: able to commit to or get anything out of Peterson
25:49
Speaker 1: really since they were last winning games, which was five
25:51
Speaker 1: weeks ago. Well, Grant, I'm not sure if you watched
25:54
Speaker 1: the game that's past Thursday, but yes, the Jaguars defense
25:57
Speaker 1: does have a lot to worry about. They gave up
26:00
Speaker 1: a ninety nine yard touchdown run two and thirty eight
26:04
Speaker 1: yards to one running back. So yes, they have a
26:07
Speaker 1: lot to worry about, and they're gonna have to account
26:11
Speaker 1: for shut out two weeks ago. Gives you a little
26:13
Speaker 1: bit of hope. I mean, I I gotta be honestly,
26:16
Speaker 1: you don't have to be very good offense down Well,
26:20
Speaker 1: I hope you're right about that. Um are optimism right
26:23
Speaker 1: right now after five days removed from our Thursday night
26:27
Speaker 1: game is not very high. So hopefully they returned back
26:31
Speaker 1: to the forum from two weeks ago, because, uh, right now,
26:34
Speaker 1: it's not looking that great for us, especially on the
26:36
Speaker 1: defensive side. Grant, who's on the hot seat in Washington
26:42
Speaker 1: all the above, the coaching staff, the president, what's going
26:46
Speaker 1: on there? President of the team. Well, first of all,
26:50
Speaker 1: Bruce Allen's the president of the team, and he's very
26:52
Speaker 1: much on the hot seat. He should probably have been
26:55
Speaker 1: on the hot seat a long time ago the team
26:58
Speaker 1: and one since he took over nine years ago. Just
27:01
Speaker 1: on the field, if you want to keep it. The
27:03
Speaker 1: personnel decisions and what he's decided to do with the
27:06
Speaker 1: coaches and the gms and the quarterbacks. It's kind of
27:08
Speaker 1: been one fiasco after another. They couldn't get a deal
27:11
Speaker 1: done with Kirk Cousins, who left. They acquired Donovan McNabb,
27:15
Speaker 1: passed his prime via trade and gave him an extension.
27:18
Speaker 1: They drafted and saw the fall of Robert Griffin in
27:20
Speaker 1: the span of a couple of seasons. But that's at
27:22
Speaker 1: the most important position on the field. On the sideline.
27:26
Speaker 1: He's gone through Mike Shanahan and potentially k Brewer. Now
27:30
Speaker 1: was also on a much warmer seat than at the
27:33
Speaker 1: beginning of the year. No, he inherited Jim Soorn, so
27:36
Speaker 1: this would be the fourth coach that had that post
27:39
Speaker 1: in his time there. He was to hide for someone
27:41
Speaker 1: else this offseason, and they had a general manager that
27:44
Speaker 1: the then they said some I think confidence in that
27:47
Speaker 1: they thought maybe would help them, and he got blown
27:49
Speaker 1: out within a couple of years amid dramatic turmoil and
27:53
Speaker 1: controversy and Scott mcleuin. So they have not done much
27:56
Speaker 1: well on the fields. The fields, there have been all
27:58
Speaker 1: kinds of games that have gone awry as well, including
28:02
Speaker 1: most recently, as I'm sure people in Jacksonville have heard,
28:04
Speaker 1: they're claiming of Reuben Foster, which did not go over
28:07
Speaker 1: well either here in the nation's capital or around the country.
28:10
Speaker 1: And that was something that he was very much involved in.
28:12
Speaker 1: So Bruce allen Stain is the first one I would
28:14
Speaker 1: bring up. I think Gruden needs a strong finish or
28:17
Speaker 1: at least to certainly win one of these next three games.
28:20
Speaker 1: I think it's real hard in the fifth year as
28:23
Speaker 1: a head coach with one team to go one in
28:26
Speaker 1: eight in your final nine games and oh and seven
28:28
Speaker 1: down the stretch and keep your job, even if you're
28:31
Speaker 1: using a fourth quarterback, even by the standards of how
28:33
Speaker 1: impossible it is as an offensive coach to succeed that way,
28:38
Speaker 1: I don't think it in a complete path. And then
28:40
Speaker 1: last name, I'll throw and to Greg Monosky, their defensive coordinator,
28:43
Speaker 1: for all the excuses I can give you, and and
28:45
Speaker 1: the names I'll mention for their injuries on offense, they're
28:49
Speaker 1: pretty healthy on defense, and at the beginning of the year,
28:51
Speaker 1: their defense was the biggest reason why they had a
28:54
Speaker 1: winning record and they were leading the NFD. Their defense
28:57
Speaker 1: has completely fallen apart over the last month and a half.
29:01
Speaker 1: And they're not suffering from a fool of injuries. I mean,
29:05
Speaker 1: there's no real excuse for it other than they're missing
29:08
Speaker 1: one cornerback and that's kind of it. It's not okay,
29:11
Speaker 1: so great monoscular defensive coordinator is the guy that could
29:14
Speaker 1: really benefit from a prolific week from his group this week. Yeah,
29:18
Speaker 1: trouble brewing in Washington. That sounds like they're hey, grant Um,
29:21
Speaker 1: are you coming down here or no, I am not.
29:24
Speaker 1: I will be staying home here all the way. Did
29:26
Speaker 1: just talk to the the redskin fan who is making the
29:29
Speaker 1: trip with a lot of money on a flight and
29:31
Speaker 1: a hotel and ticket. I said, really, that's the dusty
29:34
Speaker 1: the stations. But he made a call for the holidays
29:38
Speaker 1: many many months ago. But he's going to stick it
29:40
Speaker 1: out and go to the game. Well, we appreciate his
29:42
Speaker 1: patronage in the city of Jacksonville. I'm sure the weather
29:45
Speaker 1: is at nic Why not? It's Florida and December. We'll
29:50
Speaker 1: take it. Hey, Grant, gonna talk to you about it's
29:52
Speaker 1: been a while. Appreciate it absolutely, ticking fellows and enjoy
29:55
Speaker 1: the game. Should be a good one. Grit Paulson one
29:57
Speaker 1: of six seven the Fan in Washington athletic columnists in
30:00
Speaker 1: d C. And you saw on the note there on
30:02
Speaker 1: the bio he was a contributor to the Late Show
30:04
Speaker 1: with David Letterman. That was as a ten year old,
30:07
Speaker 1: he was the tutor reporter they sent to the Super Bowl.
30:09
Speaker 1: Woldn't you remember that? Yeah, that was actually really cool
30:12
Speaker 1: to talk to him about that because I could still
30:14
Speaker 1: remember watching that and uh, imagining how amazing that must
30:19
Speaker 1: have been for a ten year old to be able
30:21
Speaker 1: to do that. I think one of the bits there
30:22
Speaker 1: was he had to ask one of the cheerleaders to
30:24
Speaker 1: the middle school dance in fact, but it's worked out.
30:28
Speaker 1: I hope he came up with that bit. He's put
30:30
Speaker 1: together a great career twenty years now in the business
30:33
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Speaker 1: today with our weekly Specialist Watch. We take a look
32:34
Speaker 1: at the Washington Redskins specialists this week. I have a
32:38
Speaker 1: question before you start with Specialist. Yes, there's a couple
32:41
Speaker 1: of games. All of a sudden, you can't find his
32:42
Speaker 1: funny shirts. I don't know what happened. I don't know
32:44
Speaker 1: what happened. Like I told you, and September we're sitting
32:48
Speaker 1: in a pile do you have a specialist. Dustin Hopkins
32:51
Speaker 1: is the kicker. This is the specialist. Music. Great, that's fitting.
32:57
Speaker 1: I guess um, fifth year kicker. That the lonesome out
33:00
Speaker 1: of Florida State twenty three on field goals this year. Lord,
33:04
Speaker 1: she's missed one extra point tress away from Oklahoma with
33:08
Speaker 1: year punter forty one point nine. That average pretty good,
33:11
Speaker 1: that's very good, very good. Thirty six of those inside
33:14
Speaker 1: the twenty yard line. And Nick Sundberg is the long
33:17
Speaker 1: snapper from cal Berkeley. Very eccentric dude. Oh yeah, yeah,
33:22
Speaker 1: you know a little bit different. Yeah, I know Berkeley
33:24
Speaker 1: guys there if you if you make a choice to
33:27
Speaker 1: go to cal Berkeley, then you're a little bit different anyway.
33:30
Speaker 1: Because but the what's that the famous streets there was
33:35
Speaker 1: a hate Ashbury. I think so cal Berkeley. Every every
33:41
Speaker 1: person of it's been around that went to school. There's
33:44
Speaker 1: a little bit different us more. Josh can't he did
33:49
Speaker 1: a little bit differ speaking up close, friend of mine,
33:52
Speaker 1: but still a little bit different. How do you know
33:54
Speaker 1: about this? For the long snappers, there's some there's some specialists.
33:57
Speaker 1: Longer snappers are a little bit differ in any way,
34:01
Speaker 1: like some specialist social app for you guys all talk.
34:03
Speaker 1: It's like a message board or something. Actually, yes, we
34:07
Speaker 1: did fantastic, But the long club wants to be in.
34:10
Speaker 1: Long snappers are guys that they wanted to play another position.
34:14
Speaker 1: They wanted to be a linebacker, tight end, and they're like,
34:18
Speaker 1: oh crap, I can't do that. I'll go long snap though.
34:21
Speaker 1: That's um. Most of them have a little bit of
34:24
Speaker 1: a complex. But truss Way is actually good, that very
34:26
Speaker 1: very good put our left footed punter um and been
34:30
Speaker 1: been playing at a high level for many years now.
34:33
Speaker 1: So you want to talk more about that. Yeah, okay,
34:36
Speaker 1: so I do want to find out about this specialist app.
34:39
Speaker 1: We need to get on that. It's a golf tournament
34:41
Speaker 1: that I actually won't give it. You're gonna bring it
34:45
Speaker 1: back around again. You get time though it got boring.
34:48
Speaker 1: Hey shocking, I know. Um, So we just heard from
34:52
Speaker 1: Grant Paulson and d C Media there. I know you're
34:54
Speaker 1: you're going to visit this week with a Washington Post
34:57
Speaker 1: r LS and you'll see that coming up on the
34:59
Speaker 1: web site. So um, as bad as it's going right
35:03
Speaker 1: now in Jacksonville, we know how how bad the record
35:06
Speaker 1: is and how the injury situation is well, this thing
35:09
Speaker 1: turned in a hurry in Washington, d C. As well,
35:12
Speaker 1: and land Over at least with the injury situation three
35:15
Speaker 1: or four weeks ago. Alex Smith goes down there on
35:17
Speaker 1: the fourth quarterback of the season in a five week
35:20
Speaker 1: span and all the injuries up front and everything around it,
35:23
Speaker 1: things just falling apart in front of their eyes. In Washington,
35:25
Speaker 1: it's pretty similar. They were. They didn't enter this season
35:30
Speaker 1: with expectations as high as the Jaguars, but they had
35:33
Speaker 1: made a good decision on Alex Smith. I feel like
35:35
Speaker 1: he was providing stability and they were, um, you know,
35:39
Speaker 1: doing more than treading water in the NFC East. They
35:41
Speaker 1: had gone to the top and what at the time
35:44
Speaker 1: looked like a below average division, and they were taking
35:48
Speaker 1: advantage of that. There's six and three, and then Alex
35:50
Speaker 1: Smith got hurt with the horrific leg injury, and since then,
35:53
Speaker 1: as often happens with that, they've gone south. But interestingly enough,
36:00
Speaker 1: they're still not really out of it there. Six and seven,
36:02
Speaker 1: the half game out of wild card. Yeah, and because
36:05
Speaker 1: the Vikings are struggling, because the Eagles are struggling, they're
36:08
Speaker 1: really only a half game out and the Vikings, you know,
36:12
Speaker 1: as we saw, are a mess. They've fired their offensive coordinator.
36:17
Speaker 1: So in talking to Les Carpenter, who's who's with the
36:21
Speaker 1: Washington Post, he sort of laughed and said, well, it
36:25
Speaker 1: looks like they're out of it. But if they go
36:28
Speaker 1: to Jacksonville and beat a Jacksonville team that's struggling, he
36:32
Speaker 1: wasn't saying that awful, but obviously they're playing that just
36:35
Speaker 1: as poorly. All of a sudden they have Philadelphia left
36:39
Speaker 1: and I forget there him in their schedule, but it's
36:44
Speaker 1: not entirely and conceived. Well, they get back in it
36:47
Speaker 1: at at nine and seven, they win it. So it's
36:50
Speaker 1: a weird game because it doesn't feel like the Jaguars
36:53
Speaker 1: have a chance to play a spoiler role or or
36:55
Speaker 1: that's a big theme. But it is a big game
36:58
Speaker 1: for Washington. Thus the way of course at Jacksonville this
37:01
Speaker 1: week at Tennessee and then home against Philly to wrap them. Yeah,
37:05
Speaker 1: and except when the Titans play the Jags there they're
37:07
Speaker 1: fairly pedestrian. So I mean, if the stranger things have happened,
37:12
Speaker 1: so it's a strange it's a strange namor for Washing.
37:15
Speaker 1: There's a lot of talk up there about how the
37:18
Speaker 1: fans are basically recoiling from this team right now. They're
37:20
Speaker 1: not going to the games. So it feels like a
37:23
Speaker 1: wheels off situation. But my guess is that's not Jay
37:27
Speaker 1: Gruden's message. Yeah, so it's a it's a strange deal.
37:31
Speaker 1: And they have a situation where their quarterback Josh Johnson,
37:35
Speaker 1: because he hasn't played in so long, there's really no film,
37:38
Speaker 1: so it's a tough thing for the Jackson here. He
37:41
Speaker 1: played pretty well last week in the second half, but
37:43
Speaker 1: played in mop up duty. So it's it's a strange
37:46
Speaker 1: game to try to analyze and uh and talk about
37:49
Speaker 1: because there's so many unknown Yeah. Well, I mean, let's
37:52
Speaker 1: except for the flip it here. Yeah, we we know
37:56
Speaker 1: and the long snapper. But if we flip it here
37:58
Speaker 1: and say if if the Jaguars were in the position
38:01
Speaker 1: that the Redskins were in right now, we would feel
38:04
Speaker 1: pretty good about it. It was going into this game,
38:07
Speaker 1: you would say, you win this game, you're close to
38:09
Speaker 1: that sixth seed in the wild card. Um, so they
38:13
Speaker 1: the Redskins do have something to play. They're not gonna
38:16
Speaker 1: be treating this game starting tomorrow with practice and game preparation,
38:21
Speaker 1: preparation and whatnot. Um, they're not gonna be treating it
38:23
Speaker 1: as a game that doesn't matter. They're they're gonna be
38:26
Speaker 1: pumped for this game. And yet the odd thing about
38:29
Speaker 1: that is they played at home the other day against
38:33
Speaker 1: a seam and got an I were down forty at halftime,
38:38
Speaker 1: So it it feels like a team that's acting like
38:42
Speaker 1: it's mailed it in. Uh So again, it's why you
38:45
Speaker 1: wonder if it was a Sanchez effect. When you get
38:48
Speaker 1: confidence in that zero point zero quarterback rating, that right,
38:53
Speaker 1: it's easy to be down forty to enough whatever your
38:55
Speaker 1: quarterback is at zero point zero and and throwing two
38:58
Speaker 1: picks and a pick six. So so I mean it's
39:03
Speaker 1: uh you know, you're looking when you've lost eight of nine,
39:06
Speaker 1: is this team as and you're covering it. You're looking
39:09
Speaker 1: for ways to find it intriguing because it's tough, But
39:12
Speaker 1: it's not an entirely unintriguing game. The question we put
39:17
Speaker 1: you on the spot here scope So get ready, there's
39:20
Speaker 1: a lot of talk lass you heard it from fans
39:22
Speaker 1: that the Jags like gave up or didn't have the
39:26
Speaker 1: effort in the game, or it wasn't there in Tennessee.
39:30
Speaker 1: As a player, I mean you were a kicker, so
39:33
Speaker 1: mind you, but as a player, form a player, how
39:35
Speaker 1: do you tell the difference? How do you tell if
39:37
Speaker 1: a guy is you know, not having the effort or
39:41
Speaker 1: is just getting beat or you know, what's the difference there?
39:44
Speaker 1: You know, and what did you see on Thursday night?
39:47
Speaker 1: There's never gonna be a player that will tell you
39:50
Speaker 1: that they've mailed it in or they didn't give their
39:53
Speaker 1: full effort. Obviously, you can see by body language and
39:57
Speaker 1: just little things that you can tell when someone isn't
40:00
Speaker 1: given it there effort. And there were times Thursday night
40:04
Speaker 1: where you could kind of see that, mainly on the
40:08
Speaker 1: touchdown run um that there were little things that the
40:13
Speaker 1: Jaguars defenders were doing that you could kind of see
40:17
Speaker 1: that they weren't giving their full effort um And that
40:20
Speaker 1: just comes from not so much a lack of motivation,
40:24
Speaker 1: but just frustration. I mean, you get to a point
40:26
Speaker 1: in the season where you know you're not making the
40:29
Speaker 1: playoffs and it's not like you're just waiting for the
40:32
Speaker 1: season to end. You want to win, you want to
40:34
Speaker 1: play well, you want to do well for your team,
40:37
Speaker 1: but you get frustrated so, and there's such a fine
40:39
Speaker 1: line in the NFL. They're really here if if you
40:42
Speaker 1: dip it all um. I thought Brian Sexton this week
40:46
Speaker 1: had the perfect word for it. Um. It felt like
40:49
Speaker 1: a deflation. That's after the ninety after this stop at
40:53
Speaker 1: the goal line, it felt like just sort of this
40:58
Speaker 1: inner knowledge of, well, we are struggling offensively, and we
41:03
Speaker 1: just had seven shots from inside to ten and if
41:07
Speaker 1: we didn't score, given it to our best guy, which
41:11
Speaker 1: is Leonard for Nett, who had been doing that pretty
41:13
Speaker 1: well when healthy. The last couple of games against Buffalo
41:17
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, the one thing you could hang your hat
41:20
Speaker 1: on was that if you slammed him in the middle
41:22
Speaker 1: of the line inside the tent, he was gonna get
41:24
Speaker 1: home and that was gonna get your points. When that
41:26
Speaker 1: didn't work, it did feel like a deflation. And maybe
41:30
Speaker 1: that's a guy across the field not getting all the
41:33
Speaker 1: way across the fifty yards and getting it that playoff effort. Uh,
41:37
Speaker 1: That's what it felt like that with Josh. I rarely
41:40
Speaker 1: see players that I think they're going out there and
41:42
Speaker 1: saying I'm just not giving it today. But in certain
41:45
Speaker 1: situations where you're a yard or two here they're setting
41:49
Speaker 1: up makes a difference that comes into play when you're
41:52
Speaker 1: out of it, and I didn't think he saw some
41:54
Speaker 1: of that on Thursday. It's just the spirit kind of
41:56
Speaker 1: gets taken from you get deflated. And I'm sure there's
41:59
Speaker 1: been so many times this season that the defense has
42:03
Speaker 1: felt like that about the offense, especially coming off Sunday
42:07
Speaker 1: to Thursday. Short week makes it even tougher in that situation.
42:12
Speaker 1: I was on the show Josh last week, but I
42:14
Speaker 1: thought all last week it was gonna be a brutally
42:17
Speaker 1: tough matchup. I anticipated a loss. I anticipated what I
42:21
Speaker 1: thought was an ugly loss. I didn't think it'd be
42:23
Speaker 1: two and thirty yards ah worth the rushing yards. But
42:28
Speaker 1: you worried that could happen because of of the circumstances
42:32
Speaker 1: emotional on Sunday, coming back four days later on the
42:35
Speaker 1: road out of the playoffs. It didn't bode well upcoming
42:39
Speaker 1: schedule for the Jaguars. Of course, the Washington Redskins Sunday
42:42
Speaker 1: here at t i A. A. Bank Field, and then
42:45
Speaker 1: on the road the final two weeks of the regular
42:47
Speaker 1: season at Miami and at Houston, and that johnas you
42:50
Speaker 1: just said, I mean all three teams if you count
42:53
Speaker 1: the Redskins in there too, there's still alive for the
42:55
Speaker 1: playoff push. Certainly the Dolphins are and yes, the Texans
42:58
Speaker 1: are in first place in the US you South, So
43:01
Speaker 1: all three teams, all three opponents have something left to
43:06
Speaker 1: play for. There's still alive. Let's say, yeah, I think
43:08
Speaker 1: this is the jaguar shot. If you're pulling form to
43:10
Speaker 1: get a win, and now some people aren't because of uh,
43:14
Speaker 1: you know, the draft, and you know there are people
43:16
Speaker 1: who think, well, it it'd be awesome if they played
43:20
Speaker 1: great for three games and lost on Hail Mary's all
43:22
Speaker 1: three games, they'd be the ideal situation. And that probably
43:26
Speaker 1: would be. But if you're looking for a game they
43:29
Speaker 1: can win, if the Texans are in, it's gonna be
43:31
Speaker 1: tough in Houston, the Dolphins at at Miami, going on
43:34
Speaker 1: the road, that's gonna be tough. This is the one
43:37
Speaker 1: you would think they can get um and everything on
43:40
Speaker 1: paper says they should get it. But you've been playing
43:43
Speaker 1: a lot of young guys, you know, and you have
43:46
Speaker 1: that motivation issue, and now you just wonder if it
43:48
Speaker 1: will be there. It's gonna kind of look like a
43:51
Speaker 1: couple of squads from the preseason with how many injuries
43:55
Speaker 1: each team has had. I mean with the Redskins down
43:57
Speaker 1: to their fourth string essential quarterback right now and a guard,
44:01
Speaker 1: they had the same situation and guys off the street.
44:03
Speaker 1: Same with the Jaguars, I mean, Cody Kesser playing no
44:06
Speaker 1: one at the beginning of the year. Expected this to happen,
44:09
Speaker 1: and when we looked at the schedule before the season,
44:12
Speaker 1: we looked at these final three weeks and said, this
44:14
Speaker 1: kind of favors the Jaguars. Well, if they're playing well,
44:18
Speaker 1: they get through that brunt of the schedule and then
44:20
Speaker 1: they have these last three games, it could turn out
44:23
Speaker 1: really well for them. The secondary season was supposed to
44:25
Speaker 1: be where they got rid it was and didn't happen.
44:28
Speaker 1: It turned out to be the exact opposite. And that's
44:31
Speaker 1: that's the frustrating part about seeing this season through. Agree
44:36
Speaker 1: it is. I think that's a consensus here on the desk, John, Thanks,
44:42
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44:46
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44:51
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44:53
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44:57
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45:01
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47:19
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47:25
Speaker 1: John Ozan joining us senior writer. Also a nice guy,
47:29
Speaker 1: just depends on what day you talked to him. A
47:32
Speaker 1: third nice guy is Josh Scoby because he answers social
47:35
Speaker 1: media questions. We'll get to those coming up. Let's get
47:38
Speaker 1: to social Scobie. Though you're always active on social media,
47:41
Speaker 1: let's start off today with social Scobie. Number one. The
47:44
Speaker 1: PGA Tour had a tweet of Bubba Watson eighty five
47:48
Speaker 1: feet of curve on his what t shot? Right? Yeah,
47:53
Speaker 1: it was like a probably looks like a six iron,
47:55
Speaker 1: seven iron something like that. Yeah, you do that all
47:58
Speaker 1: the time. Deal, but it's on accident. I mean, come on,
48:02
Speaker 1: he did it on purpose, So what I do that
48:04
Speaker 1: big slice on accident? No problem? Without even calling my shot.
48:09
Speaker 1: Just Bubbas from the Panhandle somewhere is he is? He's
48:12
Speaker 1: from Milton, Milton, Baghdad, Yeah, that area, yeah, right off.
48:20
Speaker 1: In fact of a one time driving by it very
48:25
Speaker 1: safe by the way to take a picture while you're
48:27
Speaker 1: ing and tweeted it at him. Um, and uh, he
48:32
Speaker 1: actually follows me on Twitter. Oh, I have a lot
48:36
Speaker 1: of golfers kind of a big name drop deal guy.
48:41
Speaker 1: So yeah, a lot of golfers that follow me on
48:44
Speaker 1: Twitter because you're good at golf. I guess that helps. Yes,
48:51
Speaker 1: let's move on social scope number two. Well, there was
48:55
Speaker 1: an NFL Films tweet in the video that they linked
48:58
Speaker 1: to about emergence she kickers. Yeah, and you have some stories, no,
49:02
Speaker 1: I'm I'm. I was really mad that they didn't put
49:05
Speaker 1: in my stories or videos from it because I had
49:10
Speaker 1: a couple of really good ones like where. So the
49:13
Speaker 1: two guys that I mentioned there were Adam Polish former
49:16
Speaker 1: punter here and Russell Allen former linebacker here. Um adams
49:21
Speaker 1: rookie year in oh seven was my fourth year and
49:26
Speaker 1: the first game of the season we played here against Tennessee.
49:29
Speaker 1: I tore my quad in pregame and couldn't kick off. Um.
49:34
Speaker 1: I did an extra point of field goal, I believe,
49:37
Speaker 1: or maybe just a field goal, but I couldn't do
49:39
Speaker 1: much else. So Adam's rookie year, first game of his career,
49:43
Speaker 1: He's got to do the opening kickoff and kick off
49:46
Speaker 1: for us, and he's kind of, you know, a little nervous,
49:49
Speaker 1: jittery guy. And I mean he was so so nervous
49:52
Speaker 1: for that, so you know that I really messed him
49:55
Speaker 1: up for that one. But then the second one was
49:59
Speaker 1: Russell Allen. Uh. He was a linebacker here for a
50:02
Speaker 1: number of years as such a good dude. Um, he
50:07
Speaker 1: was our emergency kicker in two thousand eleven, I believe
50:11
Speaker 1: is when this one happened. Um. I had pulled something.
50:15
Speaker 1: We were playing Tampa Bay. It was late in the
50:17
Speaker 1: year in two thousand and eleven. We're at home and
50:20
Speaker 1: I kind of tweaked something in hamstring or gluted or
50:24
Speaker 1: whatever it was, and we were up big and Jack
50:29
Speaker 1: del Rio Uh called for Russell to kick or hit
50:33
Speaker 1: a kickoff because I told him it probably wouldn't be
50:36
Speaker 1: a good idea if I did. And Russell had never
50:38
Speaker 1: practiced a kickoff ever. Ever, he could kick fifty yard
50:43
Speaker 1: field goals no problem, but he had never t the
50:46
Speaker 1: ball up on the actual tea and the teas that
50:48
Speaker 1: we use in the NFL are It's honestly one of
50:52
Speaker 1: the dumbest constructed things. Ever. It's hard to put the
50:55
Speaker 1: ball on the tea and make it stay. That's why
50:57
Speaker 1: you see the ball fall off the tea all the
50:59
Speaker 1: time when the wind blows. Those are easy. These are
51:04
Speaker 1: very difficult to put the ball in tea. So Russell
51:06
Speaker 1: went out there for the kickoff. He tries to tee
51:09
Speaker 1: it up and he cannot tee it up. The ball
51:11
Speaker 1: has fallen off. He finally gets a teat up before
51:14
Speaker 1: the clock is about to run down, and he then
51:16
Speaker 1: he doesn't know the procedure like to step off or anything.
51:19
Speaker 1: He just kind of runs back. He looks to his left,
51:22
Speaker 1: looks to his right and just kicks it and he
51:24
Speaker 1: kicks I mean a dead hazzle rocket shank to the
51:28
Speaker 1: right and it goes like fifteen yards and I'm on
51:32
Speaker 1: the sideline like Dan laughing, We're up, Like I think.
51:35
Speaker 1: It was forty one to nothing is what we were
51:37
Speaker 1: winning by at the time. And the bad part about
51:41
Speaker 1: about it was one of our guys got knocked out
51:44
Speaker 1: unconscious after it, like now, a good buddy of mine,
51:48
Speaker 1: by a former Jaguar on that team. So it was
51:51
Speaker 1: basically my fault that he got knocked out because Russell
51:56
Speaker 1: came out and shank the kickoff like that. But it
51:58
Speaker 1: was it was pretty fun. Need to watch him trying
52:01
Speaker 1: to back upious. I mean we watched it over and
52:05
Speaker 1: over on film the next week. I mean it was
52:08
Speaker 1: luckily we won the game. Otherwise it would have been
52:11
Speaker 1: so funny. That's not funny at all. One more social
52:13
Speaker 1: Scobie here today. You were active at the All Pro
52:16
Speaker 1: Dads event and you had a guest holder. She was
52:19
Speaker 1: awesome too. You made the field goals yea, luckily luckily.
52:24
Speaker 1: No warm, That's the best form I've had in a
52:26
Speaker 1: while too. But yeah, this this was a really fun event.
52:30
Speaker 1: We talked about it last week All Pro Dad's event.
52:33
Speaker 1: In the flex field there and uh, it's probably ten
52:37
Speaker 1: eleven year old girl. She uh was throwing the ball
52:40
Speaker 1: with her and she's like, can you still kick? I'm like, yeah,
52:43
Speaker 1: give it a whirl. So she held it for me.
52:45
Speaker 1: I told her not to let go until I kicked it,
52:47
Speaker 1: because most kids would just kind of pull their hand
52:50
Speaker 1: off before you kicked the ball and the ball falls down.
52:53
Speaker 1: But she did great and I kicked. It didn't go
52:55
Speaker 1: very high, so it probably would have been blocked by
52:58
Speaker 1: most lineman, but we were kicking from the numbers though. True. Yeah,
53:02
Speaker 1: it was kind of like I was kicking from or
53:05
Speaker 1: something like the high school hashes. But it was fun.
53:08
Speaker 1: It was a really fun day, very nice, uh fun
53:11
Speaker 1: of it. It was. Yeah, I thought it went really well. Cool.
53:14
Speaker 1: Let's get a couple of social media questions. Let's go
53:18
Speaker 1: Facebook comments here and continue with those. Adam Cutler is
53:23
Speaker 1: Brunell is still available for the last couple of games.
53:26
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch Sunday's game with my lifelong friend who's
53:28
Speaker 1: a Washington fan. I guess my question would be for
53:31
Speaker 1: which team he played for? Redskins too, by the that's right, Yeah,
53:34
Speaker 1: they could use him. Yeah. He I actually beat the
53:38
Speaker 1: Jaguars as a Redskin. We went into overtime with them.
53:42
Speaker 1: I believe it was oh five, maybe oh six something
53:47
Speaker 1: like that. We played in Washington and he beat his
53:50
Speaker 1: former team. And but luckily he's a local guy and
53:54
Speaker 1: a Jaguar fans, so no, he's not available to play.
53:57
Speaker 1: Dumb question. Wow, okay, um, let's go back to Twitter now.
54:02
Speaker 1: And this is Tony and Jack's too f Y Blake
54:05
Speaker 1: has better stats except wins than Alex Smith through their
54:08
Speaker 1: first seventy ish games. Leave him here, drafted quarterback. Try
54:12
Speaker 1: remodeling instead of demo slash rebuild for once and he
54:16
Speaker 1: puts the stat lines of both guys up there. Well,
54:19
Speaker 1: it's another way to look at it. Yeah, it is. Um,
54:22
Speaker 1: the most important thing you said in that tweet was
54:25
Speaker 1: the COMMA except wins. So the only thing that matters
54:30
Speaker 1: are are wins in this league. So with how the
54:34
Speaker 1: season has gone this year, that's what the team and
54:38
Speaker 1: the management is basing the decision to to bench Blake
54:42
Speaker 1: off of. Is that the lack of wins? Do you
54:46
Speaker 1: have a social media in for the day? Last home
54:50
Speaker 1: game coming up Sunday? Gotta come out for it, man,
54:53
Speaker 1: this is you don't give any chances now, won't be
54:55
Speaker 1: back here for eight months, So come on out, enjoy
54:59
Speaker 1: the game. It's gonna be nice weather. It's not gonna
55:02
Speaker 1: be a hundred and fifty degrees like it was earlier
55:04
Speaker 1: in the year when we were winning. So come on out,
55:07
Speaker 1: bring the family, make it a Christmas present, whoever you
55:11
Speaker 1: want to bring out and enjoy the game. What do
55:13
Speaker 1: you what do you what's your game day attire? Well,
55:16
Speaker 1: since former players, we uh if you're part of the
55:19
Speaker 1: Jaguar Ambassador club, you we wear our polo with Jaguars
55:24
Speaker 1: ambassador and that's that's my go too. Does that mean
55:28
Speaker 1: that means you can't get rowdy though during the game, Oh,
55:30
Speaker 1: we still get rowdy. We have a good time. Yeah,
55:32
Speaker 1: we get to go visit random sweet holders and and
55:36
Speaker 1: they give us food and drink and we have a
55:38
Speaker 1: we have a great time. It's pretty good. It's a
55:39
Speaker 1: really good set up. And the Dan Edwards here is
55:43
Speaker 1: in charge of setting us up with all that, and
55:46
Speaker 1: he does a great job with it. Cool. Let's gonna
55:49
Speaker 1: w this week. Yeah, we need some morale boost after
55:53
Speaker 1: five days ago is u disaster. There was a struggle, man,
55:56
Speaker 1: So an extra couple of days you'll look at it
55:58
Speaker 1: the other way, extra couple of used to get ready
56:00
Speaker 1: for the good thing is Yeah, you got guys that
56:03
Speaker 1: were nicked up. You get ten days of rest time
56:08
Speaker 1: that's done instead of seven. So get healed up and
56:11
Speaker 1: get ready to beat up on a team that is
56:14
Speaker 1: already beat up and on their fourth quarterback. So hopefully
56:17
Speaker 1: it'll be a good day, good show. Josh, Sir Josh Scoby,
56:20
Speaker 1: former Jaguars kicker with us each and every Tuesday. I
56:23
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56:26
Speaker 1: Joe Fortunato, our entire Jaguars dot Com digital crew. For
56:32
Speaker 1: well involved, I'm j P. Shadrick. Will catch you next time.
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