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#55: Black X-mas (2006) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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  movie? Most favorite scary movie spite
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  of her favorite. My name is Jessie.
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  My name is Travis and did not rehearse that opening this no
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  reason. It was impromptu.
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  I always go around the house all year long.
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  Not even around Christmas. Just going to egg this.
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  So this is my chance especially You said, Billy?
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  So, that's right. We are talking about Black
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  Christmas or black Xmas, I don't know.
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  However, you want to refer to it.
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  It's the remake of by Christmas from 1974 the 2006 Edition.
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  Yes, we Have No announcements this week other than the fact
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  that we had to. Unfortunately reschedule, our
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  guest appearance for this week, we had to make a last-minute
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  change up, how House LLC was his choice and movie.
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  So we wanted to retain At 4:00 when he does get a chance to
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  come on next month. So we decided to push that back
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  to next month's schedule. We happen to have black
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  Christmas 2006 on DVD and it seemed like the perfect
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  opportunity to just throw it into the schedule.
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  Yeah. It was one that I've actually
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  been wanting to watch for a while because we have.
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  We watched it together. No, we haven't Jesse swears that
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  we've watched this movie, but I swear, and I didn't even jog my
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  memory at all. When we watched it last night,
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  but that's beyond the point. So yeah, we found this one in
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  like scare fest. There's a vendor vintage
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  collectibles type Booth. Yeah, we got some VHS.
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  Yeah, r.l. Stine few Street books.
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  Yeah, yeah. They had a lot of really cool
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  stuff out there, and I didn't realize how rare the black
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  Christmas or pound of black accents.
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  Oh no, I'm gonna replace Christmas.
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  Yeah, I didn't realize how rare the black Christmas.
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  Remake is to find in physical addition form.
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  There is no Blu-ray of this movie and existence other than I
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  think there's like a Canadian one, which is super rare.
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  And there's also the DVD, which is what we have, but we have a
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  very special DVD. It's a blockbuster edition DVD.
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  Hell yeah, some people might think that's ugly.
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  I fuckin love it because I'm super nostalgic for the whole
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  movie rental days. And, you know, it's just kind of
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  cool half of Of our saw collection is Blockbuster it is,
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  and I like, it's just kind of nice.
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  I mean, I know there are nicer editions of those movies out
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  there. But those are like, special,
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  they're special. Yeah.
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  So, moving on. I'm going to go into the poll
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  results for last week's movie, which was deadly games.
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  Dial code, Santa Claus. Jesse people were on my side for
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  this one, I'm telling you, you were somehow the voice of the
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  people, all right? Like I don't care.
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  I stand by my opinion. Ian's.
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  Yeah. So we had a the pole was
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  basically just is this a new Christmas classic because you
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  know, it's an older movie but rediscovered recently.
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  So in this household for me, it's a new Christmas classic.
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  And on Twitter, 100% of the people voted.
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  Yes. And on Instagram. 75% of the
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  people voted. Yes.
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  So you got 25% of the Greece of the okay.
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  Look look to each their own. Like I said, I'm glad there are
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  people out there that love it. It's enough for me, dog.
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  I got a, it's fine. You're very harsh on the movie,
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  but, you know, I still love you. I forgive you.
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  It's okay, I'm not sorry. You should be All right, so with
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  that out of the way, let's get into the movie info for black
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  Christmas 2006. Yes.
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  So this movie was written and directed by Gwyn Morgan.
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  He also has some help with screenplay from Roy Moore.
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  This movie has a fucking gas because it's an ensemble, a
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  fucking cat. Yeah, hell yeah.
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  It's a nice cast and I'm going to read a lot of names because
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  this is a movie where I go out of the movies.
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  Have a lot of characters, I don't play a role in this.
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  I feel Like everybody plays their part in this movie.
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  Yeah. So let's get started.
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  We have Katie Cassidy who plays Kelly, Michelle Trachtenberg as
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  Melissa Mary Elizabeth Winstead is Heather, Lacey Chabert is
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  Dana Kristen, quote, quote, as we Andrea Martinez, Miss Mack
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  gnk, Crystal Lowe as Warren. Oliver Hudson is Kyle.
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  Jessica Harmon as Megan. We will serve hasta Square.
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  Robert man is Billy and Dean presses Agnes you.
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  This movie as a budget budget. I figured it had a budget just
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  based on the cast alone. Yeah I don't know how establish
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  these people are in 2006 you know I don't know.
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  I mean some of the big names and Lacey Chabert both like really
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  well-known names, like even outside of the horror genre.
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  But everybody else is pretty well at st.
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  Mary. Elizabeth Winstead is known
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  outside of the horror genre to Ooh, now she's yeah.
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  Well, I think this is kind of her when she was using her as
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  like, a launch pad for her career.
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  Mmm, nothing against her. Yeah, actually chose this movie.
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  She actually did this movie partly.
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  Because she loves the original make sense and you pointed out,
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  which character was from Final Destination 3, okay?
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  So Mary Elizabeth Winstead and oh, I don't remember the
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  actress's name but Lauren because I immediately clocked
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  her, I was like, she looks like one of the Ashley's Unk Crystal.
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  Well, Yeah so a little fun fact for you right here Quinn Morgan
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  wrote Final Destination 3. Oh shit and did part of the
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  screenplay for the original. Oh shit!
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  Yeah so he actually approached Mary Elizabeth in the airport at
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  4:00 a.m. with the idea of like wanting her to play a role in
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  this movie and she chose it. She agreed because they have a
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  work history and she likes the original.
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  So he said, hey will you continue to keep bangs to do
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  this movie with me? Yeah, so I don't know, I can't
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  remember when Final Destination 3 came out but that's why I say
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  like, I feel like this is kind of like around the same time.
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  She seems to be doing horror movies around this time.
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  So, yeah. I thought that was kind of cool.
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  And kind of like, no. No.
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  You were talking about Final Destination.
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  This was actually marketed as a final destination movie in
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  Japan. Really?
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  Yeah, I mean, I guess if you saw it, you know, two of the leads.
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  You'd be like oh yeah yeah. But nothing else in this movie
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  plays out like a final destination.
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  I was death is like actually Actually using serial killers,
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  which that would actually be an interesting concept.
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  Yeah, but no, not for this one. Okay.
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  So budget though, I'm gonna say that.
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  Michelle Trachtenberg. She Harriet the Spy Buffy, the
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  Vampire Slayer to huge, huge. Huge TV shows so yeah.
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  Isn't she like kind of minor on Buffy though?
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  No, no, I don't know. You just not there yet.
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  Okay. No.
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  She's like she becomes a major like she's Buffy sister, right?
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  Yeah. I mean she looks like Sarah
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  Michelle Gellar like honestly I like is that fucking.
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  And then, you know, that's like, oh that's on her second thought.
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  It was Sarah, Michelle Gellar, this movie's budget was 9
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  million, which I think for horror that's budget material.
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  Yeah, that's right. On the borderline between what
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  I'd call Budget and bucked at 4 2006.
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  Warrior is like Only whoa, though.
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  So that's good for horror movies, especially one that
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  doesn't have. Like, you know, it looks like
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  mostly practical effects were using mostly practical effects.
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  They really took advantage of a single location to.
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  Yeah. You know, I think, I think, you
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  know, a lot of movie is, if they want to do a single location,
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  Christmastime works really well because like, you have the whole
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  storm Factor. Yeah.
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  So he's really in there. Yeah.
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  And I would be so funny to do it like in Kentucky think about the
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  foot of snow we had on Christmas last year and then you just got
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  like a bunch of like Southerners been like all right everybody
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  get your four by fours. We're going to put some shit on
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  front of our trucks. We're going to play this thing
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  out and yeah. When you got like a Yeti or
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  something, coming attacking everybody, Hollywood make it
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  happen. You should write the script.
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  Dude I just did. Yeah.
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  Pretty much you eat it all out right there.
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  It's got Get back. It's like that.
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  I'm the brother-in-law on campus but like everybody in the movies
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  like that I can dig it. So this movie it grows 16
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  million in the United States. We know it made backups budget
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  sort of nine. It sounds like it made back its
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  budget but it has to get like what was it?
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  That we were told like three times its budget to really turn
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  a profit. It got Quest worldwide's 21
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  million so it's closer. But it kind of failed
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  financially and critically, which inspired Bob Clark, the
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  original director of the black Christmas, 1974 version to start
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  working on it like a legit sequel to the original movie.
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  And he started writing up. He was even like gathered
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  original cast members to make a return and he died and he died.
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  So, it stopped right there. And that's kind of sad be Bob.
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  I'm sorry, I'm not laughing that he's dead, I'm more like Which
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  are, you know, it would have been cool to see the kids and
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  this guy he's a, I mean, he's got good directing chops, he did
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  Christmas Story, you know. Yeah which is like I like to use
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  that. I tried to get my nana to watch.
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  The original was like I got a Christmas movie made by the guy
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  that did Christmas Story. watch a movie that has the Yeah, I
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  realize that after we were really watching it last night.
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  This isn't Gonna Fly. Look, maybe some people bananas.
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  Can do that. Your nana?
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  No, no, she is not the nana, she's not.
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  So, yeah, that's that's pretty much it as far as facts.
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  And if you haven't seen this movie I will say I personally
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  recommend seeing it. I like all three black
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  Christmases and existence for very different reasons.
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  This is currently on to be be as of the time that we are
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  recording this and to be is completely free, go take
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  advantage of to be it's amazing and apparently they like
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  actually get more money to the movie creators than any other
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  streaming service. So which I think is funny
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  because it's a free service so make sense.
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  Yep. Okay.
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  So are we ready to go into ratings and reviews?
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  I don't think. Okay.
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  So this is a weird one where we don't necessarily Have like, let
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  me be the naysayer since I'm the one that loves the original
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  movie, okay? This one has like a bigger shoes
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  to fill for me. Yes.
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  Okay, that's it. That's a fair perspective to
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  take. Like I said, I am able to
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  compartmentalize these three movies.
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  I do not think of them really as the same movie.
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  Yeah, that's fair. So they're all family.
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  The original movie is one of my favorite slashers ever, like, I
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  watched this back. Before you.
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  And I ever met whenever I like, I was at home and I was using
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  like, the OG Netflix, I would get the DVD disc.
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  Yeah, so I got the disc sent to me, watch it in my bedroom, all
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  by myself, when Christmas, and that shit was tight.
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  I just had this conversation with my sister earlier because I
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  sent her a Snapchat. We so we've had a day, my car
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  needed an oil change. And so we went to Walmart
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  because it's cheap and they're not buttholes about things,
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  sorry, I've had bad luck with other Is trying to upsell me on
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  services that I do not need. But so we went to Walmart and
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  we're like, okay, we're going to go around.
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  Do some Home Improvement shopping.
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  We had to fix our mailbox, that was a whole thing.
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  We're both covered in dirt and smell bad right now.
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  Just a peek behind the curtain of our recruiting process paint
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  in there. I guess who.
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  So you know, we're just hanging out waiting for my car to get
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  finished. We go through the electronic
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  section and Now That's What I Call Music. 79.
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  So where this is going. So I didn't expect this in.
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  It was in CD form and I sent a picture of it to my older sister
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  because I was just like, holy shit, we're up to number 79.
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  She was like, they still make CDs.
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  Yeah, dude, some of us don't have, you know, I still have a
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  team player. Travis's car is as old as the
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  movie we are talking about thousands.
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  It's that's right. Anyways.
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  Review for this movie. Thanks for hijacking.
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  It so, yeah, like I was saying the original wins.
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  One of my favorite movies, it's like, I know people like to say,
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  it's one of the OG slashers it kind of is, we were like
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  watching the Joe Bob version of the last night and he pointed
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  out Texas Chainsaw, which I always start to like that's the
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  first washer for me. It's also one of his favorites.
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  It is yes. What guess what a sub-genre of
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  core Travis loves I like so Slashers OK.
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  Again, last week you got mad at me for not talking enough I
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  know, but I'm back up your fucking mind.
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  Okay, hold on, I just get back and forth but okay.
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  I like the train. This was its off the tracks now.
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  Chainsaw slasher. You agree.
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  I like this movie. I liked this movie.
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  It's very Innovative. It has a lot of good stuff going
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  for it. And this movie has a lot of the
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  Remake as what it's like to live up to.
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  Because the first one did such a great job and it's so creepy and
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  the Killer is so good and the scares are good, the characters
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  are great, everything is about, it's amazing.
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  This one is, I like that. It tries to be it's Sonne thing.
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  But it also pays homage to the original.
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  Like, you get the first person shots and you get the phone
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  calls. You get?
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  Yes, the Unicorn. Yeah, you get the Unicorn.
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  The Unicorn is very important. I feel like they overdo the
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  unicorn in this one because it comes up so many times
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  throughout the movie comes out twice.
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  No, it doesn't comes on morning. The, I feel like I saw him more
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  than that in this movie because we watch deleted scenes and
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  Alternate endings, maybe I don't know.
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  Either way it does a good job. I think.
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  But overall I feel like it's it's a weaker version of it.
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  Like I don't know. It doesn't live up to the
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  original for me but on its own. I think it's a nice Christmas
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  slasher. We will just like a slasher in
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  general, you know, like I also think that it's interesting that
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  instead of Billy doing most of the stuff, it's actually Agnes
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  doing a lot of it. Each.
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  That's like a nice way to like make it your own like, you know,
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  I don't do whatever. He makes one of like, take like
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  a b4b remake of the original events and try and like a dyke a
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  modern Flair to it which I mean, I guess that's okay, but it just
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  ends up feeling very boxed. Yeah, it's yeah, it's just I
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  don't know, it was just a little bit and I appreciate them trying
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  to make it different enough. That way you have like the two
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  different versions. I feel like whenever we watch
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  the Original immediately after this, like we were still
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  watching a different movie, you know.
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  Like it doesn't feel like I'm re-watching the same thing.
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  So, yeah, I think that I would, I will rate this I give it about
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  a six. That's honestly, I know that you
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  enjoyed the movie but I also know where is I can have that
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  separation between the two? I know it's a little bit harder
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  for you and I think a big part of it for me, is that I saw this
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  version first. I maintain that.
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  We watch it together. I know for sure, we watched it
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  together. I know you don't believe me, but
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  it happened. And I also know that I watched
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  it back in the day. So I have this memory of it.
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  I don't know when it was that I saw the original black
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  Christmas. I want to say.
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  It was like, the Joe Bob special last?
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  Yeah. I think you're rushing it for
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  the first time with you. Yeah.
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  So and it's not. It was just, I never knew that
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  it was a remake. Hey, you didn't I didn't.
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  So I just saw it as like cool. It's a sorority house.
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  Christmas-themed stalkers / or person lives in the walls.
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  Movie for me with a cast that I know and love.
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  So it for me, it's just it's just a fun movie.
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  And I like the Dynamics that they're all, you know, kind of
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  have like that family estrangement and a little bit of
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  bitterness towards Christmas because, hey, I have some issues
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  at the holiday season myself that I'm working through doing.
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  Well, in that front, I think, yes, I even Holly and somewhat
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  Jolly you just year. Yeah, I got Travis an advent
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  calendar. Yes.
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  So yeah. Yeah, I like I kind of like that
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  aspect of it. The little found family aspect
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  that they have going on with it. It doesn't feel like it, relies
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  on it, bunch of stereotypes for the sorority women, you know,
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  that feel like they could have played up a lot of different
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  morning - things than, you know, the way a lot of maybes tend to,
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  you know, what I mean, they could have like, stereotyped
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  each girl, but instead like they feel like, you know, you get to
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  know the characters a little bit.
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  It is a fairly large ensemble cast, but you get a sense for
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  who everybody is. It feels very of the times, just
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  with some of the language again, I always have to call that out
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  and the ringtones on the cell phones.
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  Yeah, that's all. Phones are like a blast from the
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  past. Who's that Kelly has the razor?
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  That's my bags. A good ringer.
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  Yeah, I do not have the razor. I had the European version
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  called the Riser and it Like slides up instead of being a
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  flip phone but yeah I just have a lot of fun with this movie.
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  It's not anything like super Innovative but like it's
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  enjoyable throughout you know I think it's well done.
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  Like you said it looks like the effects are mostly practical.
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  Yeah, I think so the facts are really good in this.
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  Yeah it's got some really gnarly kills it's got some good tense
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  moments and like you know you've got major ich and creepy factors
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  and your Original and the cat. It can creepy factors in this
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  one, but kind of made it their own, you know, because in the
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  first one, like you've got the harassing phone calls that are
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  coming in, it could be kick. And then, the creep Factor comes
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  at the end where you find out, oh, the calls are coming from
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  inside the hose and this one, like the It Factor comes from
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  Agnes as the product of incest. And we see too much of how that
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  comes about in flashbacks, big big dick and then we have the
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  creepy factor that Agnes is just like living in the walls the
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  whole time. Again that's really creepy to
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  think about and then especially like one of the alternate
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  endings we watched where he winds up in the walls of the
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  hospital. Yeah like that's creepy to me to
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  think about. So I overall I really enjoyed
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  this movie I'm gonna give it a seven.
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  Okay. So We're starting off with an
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  average of six and a half, and I think that is I think that's a
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  respectable starting, never think so too.
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  Yeah. So are we ready to get into it?
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  All right, we start off with a shot with the Delta, Alpha Kappa
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  house and the closed captions. Let us know that robust jazz
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  music is playing I don't think I've ever described jazz music
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  as robust but you know whatever they had their fun with it.
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  Yeah that's fine. We see a girl drinking in her
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  room. She's sitting on the floor of a
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  room wrapping presents relatable.
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  That's gonna be me later tonight because I don't know how much
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  wrapping paper we have. So I gotta try and use it all up
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  before I go and get more. She is using a fountain pen with
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  red ink. Love the style love Claire.
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  There she is like writing a little note to lie, somebody
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  named Lee, she hears a sound in her closet.
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  She goes to investigate but she sees nothing.
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  So she goes to sit back down and then a plastic bag suddenly
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  shoved over her head, and she's dead.
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  Then we get a title card Black Christmas?
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  Yes. So, this was I, we're trying to
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  sing it as last Christmas in my head like since last night I've
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  been going, but so this is Claire and this is right away.
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  We get a homage to one of the better killers in the original
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  movie which was also clear in that movie getting killed to
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  this movie, kind of repeats some names, but also make some of
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  them different. There's yeah, we, we started to
• 22:34
  watch the original after this. It had been a really long day
• 22:37
  and we ended up falling asleep part way through.
• 22:40
  So, who knows what we'll be doing with the rest of the night
• 22:42
  tonight? Yeah, but like, the whole
• 22:44
  plastic bag over the head thing. I don't think that's exactly.
• 22:48
  Is that how it happens in the original?
• 22:49
  I can't remember. I think that he takes like the
• 22:51
  cellophane from one of the bags in there because she has like
• 22:55
  the cellophane bags. Yeah, it's like yeah, it's like
• 22:57
  a dry-cleaning coat and yeah, it over her face and so she's
• 23:01
  exactly. Yeah.
• 23:03
  But that's when you get somebody in the closet you get the like
• 23:08
  the thing in the closet. But then you also get a shot of
• 23:11
  like somebody hiding under the bed and stole the pin.
• 23:14
  So they also stabbed her in the eye II.
• 23:16
  Yeah. Eyes are a big thing in this
• 23:18
  movie. Yeah.
• 23:19
  So we go to Clark sanitarium. Tech is handing out Christmas
• 23:25
  dinner? There is a door that gets wedged
• 23:29
  open with a milk carton. There's one guy that is very
• 23:35
  religiously preoccupied, so when the guy drops off the dinner to
• 23:38
  him is like happy birthday instead of Merry Christmas.
• 23:42
  Let's see there in walks of Santa Claus.
• 23:45
  Who says, He's lost which seems suspicious to me.
• 23:48
  I was immediately suspicious of this Santa I'm just I don't know
• 23:53
  why he ended up not being like suspicious in a killer way, just
• 23:57
  in a skeezy way. Yeah, he's a sleazy Santa yes.
• 24:02
  Hitting on the staff. They're pretty much, but yeah,
• 24:06
  it's kind of weird. I don't understand what he's
• 24:07
  doing. I think because he wanders up
• 24:09
  use, oh man, I'm lost. Oh hey I thought Billy Lenz was
• 24:13
  dead. So it's like almost like
• 24:14
  somebody. Dared him to see if Billy Lenz
• 24:17
  was released on the sanitarium. Yeah, maybe.
• 24:21
  So I think that's, that's what was happening.
• 24:23
  But yeah, it really all this is, is it serves to give us X
• 24:28
  position the guard, you know, talks about how Billy Lenz tries
• 24:33
  to escape on Christmas each year.
• 24:36
  Oh heavy foreshadowing, that everybody thinks that he's dead.
• 24:40
  He's really not. He's been there since he killed
• 24:43
  his family. They give him chicken.
• 24:46
  They imply that he ate his mom. He is very much a cannibal will
• 24:50
  see that. At in flashbacks.
• 24:52
  So he's also got some kind of disorder that has like his skin
• 24:57
  pigmented yellow, liver disorder, jaundice.
• 25:02
  Yeah. So this is an interesting Ada's.
• 25:06
  It's an interesting decision that they have here because they
• 25:09
  this one shows a lot of you see a lot of Billy and you see a lot
• 25:12
  of Agnes in the original, you don't really see him.
• 25:15
  Yeah, I'm kind of, like, of the mind of like, with this one,
• 25:20
  it's better not to see, you know, to me, I just wish they
• 25:26
  had gotten somebody that looks different more different from
• 25:30
  the actor that plays Kyle because of the end.
• 25:33
  When we see Billy has face like peeking over out for Miles,
• 25:37
  like, is Kyle still alive. I don't think it was that much
• 25:39
  like them. Well, I'm also bad with faces so
• 25:42
  it may just be me. Yeah, my been my family proud.
• 25:45
  Um, yeah. So we see Kelly making out with
• 25:53
  Kyle in a car as their first Christmas as a couple he wants
• 25:57
  to spend it together but she's like, oh, I need to be with my
• 25:59
  sister's. I never had a big family, I want
• 26:02
  to, you know, have like this found family moment.
• 26:05
  I respect that she said that boundary and didn't let this
• 26:07
  loser. Rule her life and he is a loser.
• 26:12
  We are not a fan of Kyle in this.
• 26:16
  So he is though, he plays the Dad in Scream, Queens.
• 26:21
  Because as soon as I saw his face and heard his voice, I was
• 26:23
  like, oh, Travis meeting of pause the movie because I need
• 26:25
  a, I need to figure out who this fucking guy is, it's going to
• 26:27
  drive me nuts. I did not realize he was going
• 26:28
  to be in the movie as much as he was.
• 26:31
  I thought he was just going to be like a character that died
• 26:33
  very quickly. So, he's like, first onscreen
• 26:35
  for 30 seconds. I was like, this is gonna bother
• 26:37
  me for the whole rest of the movie, Just pause it.
• 26:38
  Now I'm going to look it up on IMDb if I'd known, he was going
• 26:42
  to be on screen for like 10 solid minutes.
• 26:44
  I would I figured it out but yeah so that's that's where I
• 26:49
  know him from. He plays kind of creepy dad
• 26:53
  that. So you know stick sticking to
• 26:56
  his character type genus is real as soon as she goes inside, we
• 27:02
  see him calling Megan, another sister of the Delta Alpha Kappa
• 27:08
  sorority, they call themselves Alpha Kappa.
• 27:10
  So I'm just going to like switch that, you know, we don't really
• 27:13
  know what the calls about though because this is a Tracking shot
• 27:15
  of from outside the house. You're getting a view of all,
• 27:18
  like from all the windows and kind of seeing why it happened.
• 27:21
  Yeah. And house.
• 27:23
  You see, Megan very upset and throwing her cell phone.
• 27:26
  So, yeah. So clearly he has said, and, or
• 27:30
  done something that really upset her.
• 27:32
  Yeah. Hmm wonder if we'll find out.
• 27:38
  So, all of the girls in the sorority basically laughed,
• 27:41
  except for the handful that are left here.
• 27:45
  For whatever reason, either, they haven't been able to go
• 27:47
  home yet. A lot of them have like
• 27:49
  strained, family relationships. So, they're doing like a secret
• 27:52
  Santa gift exchange. They have a tradition where they
• 27:55
  have to leave on for Billy, which listen, I'm all for weird.
• 28:00
  Traditions, this is a little bit fucked up because Billy was like
• 28:05
  an actual human being who actually was abused.
• 28:09
  And then well, yeah, they don't know that he's still alive there
• 28:13
  but everybody liked was Aware at this point know, everybody
• 28:16
  thinks that he's dead. Yeah, that's why.
• 28:18
  The Santa was like, we thought he was did so It just to me,
• 28:25
  it's weird. It's not like, oh, we're gonna
• 28:28
  leave a present for the goblin under the stairs.
• 28:31
  So here's a murder at like, that's like stupid, but funny,
• 28:34
  although I do appreciate that they end up having this
• 28:37
  argument, like, why are we having this stupid Pig?
• 28:39
  Introduce you and blah, blah blah, and in our living room, I
• 28:42
  was like well technically the way we celebrate Christmas as is
• 28:46
  rooted in Pagan traditions and then one of the character goes,
• 28:49
  oh, so here's the root of this Pagan tradition, the root of
• 28:52
  this Peg, Tradition, the root of this Pagan tradition.
• 28:55
  I know people have their religious roots to the holiday
• 28:59
  and that is great and that is fine but historically there is a
• 29:03
  lot of like non religious aspects to Christmas as we know
• 29:06
  it. So yeah it's kind of becoming
• 29:08
  something at yeah. Yeah, it's it's own thing now.
• 29:11
  There's room for both, however, you need to celebrate your
• 29:14
  holiday. So the person that's doing that,
• 29:16
  by the way, is Warren who plays this movie's version of Barb,
• 29:20
  who was the alcoholic from the original movie.
• 29:22
  Yes. so, I think she Is less of a room stopper crude humor than
• 29:32
  Barb was though because I think it's like a modern.
• 29:35
  Take on it. Yeah.
• 29:36
  But very much it's very similar if it's similar but Barb like
• 29:42
  pushed it a little bit too far because it wasn't just around.
• 29:47
  You know her sister is it was around like other people too and
• 29:51
  they're like jeez, you're making are very uncomfortable bar may
• 29:54
  be fair. We don't get that opportunity
• 29:56
  with Warren here because they say strictly within the house
• 29:59
  here. No, I'm just saying like it.
• 30:01
  I think it works out better. Yeah, it makes her more like
• 30:04
  sympathetic character, right? Okay.
• 30:07
  The only other note, I have in this moment is that I can't
• 30:12
  handle the fact that I'm watching Dawn Summers drinking
• 30:14
  wine, it just it Because Don Sommers is drinking wine.
• 30:19
  I don't understand why that's a big deal.
• 30:23
  I can't, I can't. Is that really a big spoiler to
• 30:25
  tell me why? Drinking alcohol is a big deal
• 30:27
  for character. It is alcohol and important,
• 30:31
  important factor in Buffy later, so it's just you don't really
• 30:33
  understand Dawn Summers. Yeah.
• 30:35
  She's a, she's young right? Yeah, is that it?
• 30:37
  Yeah, I know, she's for a little sister, dude.
• 30:39
  I don't know. I completely blind about like
• 30:41
  all the things Buffy, okay. So then why is it weird to you
• 30:44
  that I would I don't know why is that?
• 30:47
  I don't know. It's just not weird for me.
• 30:48
  Too young in the show, like, she's a teenager.
• 30:52
  Does she look the exact same here?
• 30:54
  I mean, yeah. She's a very young looking
• 30:57
  person kind of, but she definitely.
• 30:59
  Looks like, I'm just used to freshman in high school, Dom
• 31:02
  Summers. Okay, that's where I'm at.
• 31:05
  Okay? She's mature, it's weird.
• 31:08
  I feel uncomfortable with it. Okay, well, let's move.
• 31:11
  Okay, I'll respect it. Okay, all right.
• 31:13
  Well, we're cutting back to Clark sanitarium here.
• 31:16
  Because Billy is masterminding his own Escape here.
• 31:19
  Yes, he sets a little present through the slot and his door.
• 31:24
  It doesn't fucking guard. Just Falls for it.
• 31:27
  Yeah. Why do you even have to open up
• 31:29
  the fro? You gave us the exposition 20
• 31:32
  minutes ago. You said he tries to escape
• 31:35
  every year so, um, so we get like a little shy of Billy in
• 31:41
  there. He's eating a candy cane and he
• 31:43
  like, pulls out his mouth, he's fashioned it into a little
• 31:45
  while. A shank.
• 31:47
  So he's ready to take out the guard.
• 31:50
  He's also removed what I think is like a radiator from his wall
• 31:54
  and makes it look like he's like, Doug of way out, like
• 31:57
  escape and kind of get out there there, which that might have
• 32:00
  been why the guard goes in there.
• 32:02
  I'm not entirely sure. I don't know if you noticed that
• 32:04
  beforehand, but anyways, yeah, he thinks that Billy has
• 32:07
  escaped. That way Billy though has
• 32:10
  actually hid under the bed and he gets out and then boom stabs
• 32:15
  the guy. I guarantee they have some sort
• 32:18
  of other part, you know, it's just like an other horror movies
• 32:21
  where you see a cop and you're like, you need to be calling for
• 32:23
  backup right now, but he doesn't call for backup.
• 32:25
  I guarantee Clark has a protocol where if a prisoner escapes your
• 32:32
  supposed to alert more staff? Yeah, I'm sure.
• 32:35
  Yeah. I mean, it makes sense,
• 32:37
  especially if they've like Escape through the walls, like,
• 32:39
  get everybody on the perimeter. Yeah, I don't like the spotlight
• 32:42
  that we can catch him. He freezes.
• 32:44
  And they probably have to alert the local Authorities.
• 32:46
  Because I'm assuming that this is a criminal Hospital.
• 32:50
  Yeah. I mean yeah.
• 32:52
  Probably, I can't. I mean, they're there in like
• 32:56
  cells, you know, it's true. It's like solitary confinement.
• 32:59
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 33:01
  So it's a pretty brutal Kill Ya. One of the girls in this like
• 33:07
  really surprised me a lot of them are kind of off screen.
• 33:09
  This one kind of was because you just get like blood splatter but
• 33:12
  like the amount of blood that splatters out of these skills is
• 33:15
  kind of Then I got any time. I see like I'm usually
• 33:18
  disappointed with off-screen kills but whenever I guess he
• 33:22
  like that excessive amount of blood on my holy shit.
• 33:25
  What did he do? Feels very violent.
• 33:27
  Yeah, even not being on screen. It feels very violent.
• 33:29
  Yeah, it's pretty good. It's a good way to do it.
• 33:32
  So we go back to Alpha Kappa house.
• 33:34
  They are a couple of the girls are pounding on Megan's door,
• 33:38
  trying to wake her up inside. We see that she's awake and
• 33:43
  she's on the internet where Kyle As fucking revenge porn her we
• 33:48
  suspect it's not confirmed but I mean based off of the
• 33:51
  conversation it's pretty much like I'm think that's kind of
• 33:55
  what they're going for here. Yeah I mean it's very heavily
• 33:58
  implied and kiled Kyle's not a nice guy.
• 34:01
  He is a fucking douche pianist of those movie.
• 34:06
  Yeah. Kind of yeah it's kind of
• 34:09
  scared. Yeah.
• 34:10
  I think that's that's the role. He's meant to be forever Ira
• 34:13
  first. When we were watching this
• 34:15
  though, I just thought that when they were banging on her door, I
• 34:18
  thought she was just like, no, I'm fun Christmas and then she's
• 34:20
  just like watching porn. She just thought she just wanted
• 34:23
  to like, be like that, like person, just like stays in her
• 34:25
  room watching porn, you know, that the women play with,
• 34:28
  anybody just wants to watch porn all day.
• 34:32
  You know, I'm sure there are plenty of people to do that.
• 34:35
  Oh, well, she's crying and upset.
• 34:38
  She hears a sound, and that attic and goes to investigate
• 34:42
  who goes to investigate a sound in the Attic.
• 34:44
  Because, like, for me, I'm like Sam And in the Attic.
• 34:46
  Hmm. I mean maybe it's a small
• 34:49
  creatures, should probably call Pest Control.
• 34:51
  You know what I mean? Like who goes to actually
• 34:53
  investigate because she goes up there and you know, I happens,
• 34:58
  she discovers a body equator she gets got.
• 35:01
  Yeah, and this is another call back to the original with Claire
• 35:04
  sitting at the window sill and the rocking chair with a bag of
• 35:06
  her face. It's kind of like the poster
• 35:08
  from the original 12, but just like a rocking back and forth.
• 35:11
  Yeah, it's really cool. We go back to Clark.
• 35:16
  Santa is very horny. Okay, so here's my entire note
• 35:19
  for this team. Clark Santa horny suddenly blood
• 35:25
  body and dumpster because that is how it feels like.
• 35:29
  So we see horny Santa and then all of a sudden there's just a
• 35:33
  huge amount of blood and we're like wait, did we miss
• 35:35
  something? Yeah, that's one of the ones I
• 35:37
  was talking about where there's so much blood as like what the
• 35:39
  fuck just happened? Like, I don't know.
• 35:42
  It's kind of cool. Really saying it only served as
• 35:45
  a way for Billy to escape. That's the reason he's there as
• 35:48
  a character in this movie. Yeah.
• 35:50
  I kind of thing. It's kind of lazy script
• 35:52
  writing. Yeah, he gave us Exposition he
• 35:54
  gave us an escape, give us a reason for sanity to be there.
• 35:57
  Not just have like a saint, a Roman, the hospital.
• 35:59
  Ho ho, what's up? Hey, where am I?
• 36:02
  Always, look fucks Billy and then drops it.
• 36:20
  The window into the dumpster and he's on his way.
• 36:23
  And then he's on his way home. We see that the tradition is to
• 36:28
  open the Billy present first, but Heather played by Mary
• 36:33
  Elizabeth Winstead. She she drooped Billy's name,
• 36:37
  but didn't want to do it because she doesn't like that tradition.
• 36:40
  I can't get it. Like I said, it feels like
• 36:43
  disrespectful to the people that Billy killed and also
• 36:45
  disrespectful to Billy himself, because he's a killer not
• 36:49
  excusing him being killed. Like being a killer but also
• 36:52
  like he was abused. So cool.
• 36:55
  I kind of get her point for it and then that's where, you know,
• 36:58
  Ashley points out all of the different.
• 37:01
  Yeah. It's the the house moment about
• 37:04
  the tradition Miss Mack here, that's trying to get everybody.
• 37:06
  She's trying to find Billy's present.
• 37:08
  So she's the one that's like really trying to keep the
• 37:10
  tradition going. Yeah, we get a flashback to
• 37:14
  Billy's traumatic. Childhood it, his dad kind of
• 37:18
  tries his dad's a good guy, so. Starts back to 1970, where we
• 37:23
  see Billy being born, they the narrator's talking about how the
• 37:28
  mother didn't really like Billy, whatever.
• 37:31
  Then we cut to, let's see what year was, it's 1975.
• 37:36
  And it's like one of his Christmases.
• 37:39
  The moms just kind of like shitting on building.
• 37:40
  Like telling him like there's nothing there for you.
• 37:42
  Hate you. No presents.
• 37:44
  Yeah, die. And then the dads, like, hey
• 37:47
  buddy, I hit a present for you in the Attic sneaky.
• 37:50
  He's like, he whispers he's like just go up there and like yeah,
• 37:53
  I got something for you. If they're just don't worry
• 37:55
  about it. Yeah.
• 37:55
  And then he's like, hey could you maybe be nicer to our sun?
• 38:03
  Will let me have full custody instead of you and your
• 38:06
  boyfriend who's also really inappropriate around?
• 38:09
  Yeah, so what happens is it's all off screen.
• 38:12
  So we're up there with Billy, he's up there in the Attic.
• 38:14
  He's found like a little secret hole in the wall, where his dad
• 38:19
  We can see at all. Sorry, that was good, but he's
• 38:26
  got his present there, it's like wrapped in newspaper and yeah,
• 38:30
  so Jesse's now doing the, I think I'm here right now, so
• 38:34
  many shots in this movie of just like a high.
• 38:37
  We were, yeah, we were doing a drinking game.
• 38:38
  When we were watching it, one of the rules is whenever there's an
• 38:41
  eye like a single. I you drink.
• 38:43
  There's so many of those so many has a lot to do, they do?
• 38:48
  Yeah. Two cannibals.
• 38:49
  Yeah. Because obviously, that was like
• 38:51
  the thing in, like, the early 2000s, like, listen, you work a
• 38:54
  Noble's. Please.
• 38:55
  Let us know our eyes true delicacy, maybe that'll be the
• 38:58
  pole you accountable. But I think what happens here
• 39:04
  with with the dad is the boyfriend comes over and I think
• 39:11
  it's like a set I set up because the guys I know you're going to
• 39:14
  fucking leave me for this guy. And all of a sudden a By breaks
• 39:19
  out and Billy is kind of like, oh no, he's okay.
• 39:22
  Type of guy that can navigate through the walls.
• 39:25
  I guess he's been doing that a lot as a kid, he gets down there
• 39:30
  and you can see what's going on. And all of a sudden, you see
• 39:32
  like his dad's face hit the ground, he's like hiding
• 39:36
  underneath like a couch ish type thing.
• 39:39
  So he's like really protected and then just get to see this
• 39:43
  dude just like take a hammer and just beat the shit out of that.
• 39:46
  It's so fucking. Yeah.
• 39:48
  It's crazy and they bury him in the crawlspace.
• 39:54
  Yeah, house. And while they're down there,
• 39:58
  just go faster. They looked like us fucking with
• 40:01
  our mailbox earlier because they're using like a little hand
• 40:04
  trowel. Like it's not a real fish is
• 40:06
  hard to do. Yeah, it is.
• 40:08
  And they hear a sound in the book.
• 40:11
  It's got it. They see Billy.
• 40:13
  Yeah. So that's where the flash
• 40:16
  meccans. Present day phone, rings.
• 40:18
  Yes and it's just a heavy breathing, then some word salad
• 40:23
  about Billy Agnes, how skilled and the caller ID says that it's
• 40:29
  Claire's sell side note. I hate the way they spell
• 40:32
  Claire. Claire needs an e at the end of
• 40:34
  this house built in the original to.
• 40:36
  Yeah, it does it bothers me? It bothers me to.
• 40:39
  I agree. Mary Elizabeth Winstead, right?
• 40:43
  Like I could not keep I was just, this is one of those
• 40:46
  movies where I was writing down the actress's name.
• 40:48
  So I didn't write Mary. I wrote Mew Mew, she says that
• 40:58
  she's like, no we're not going to provoke this crank caller
• 41:02
  because I'm feels like tell him to shut the fuck up or what he
• 41:05
  wants or you know, whatever and she's like no, you don't provoke
• 41:08
  a crank caller like that and she's cracked.
• 41:09
  Like if somebody gives you it, I used to do a crisis hotline, a
• 41:16
  Rape Crisis Hotline, And we would get crank calls like this.
• 41:23
  And then, you know, when we watch the honestly watching the
• 41:26
  original right after, it's so much more.
• 41:30
  Graphic and upsetting. And it's one of those things
• 41:34
  that it happens, you're like, hey obviously, this is for an
• 41:38
  official hot live here like this.
• 41:40
  Not with this line is for, I'm hanging up.
• 41:42
  Yeah, thank you say that. You say that's a billy like hey,
• 41:45
  what's all this one is for? Yeah, he's like, yeah.
• 41:47
  But like yeah, you don't engage with somebody who's doing that.
• 41:50
  They're going for a reaction but like, especially like I've heard
• 41:55
  people masturbating on the phone gross.
• 41:58
  Yeah. It's Not.
• 42:00
  Okay. So and I realize that, that is
• 42:04
  something that is, like, you have real experience with and
• 42:07
  it's disturbing. The phone calls are one of my
• 42:10
  favorite things of the original movie.
• 42:11
  And like, I don't mean that to be like, I'm into like the sick
• 42:15
  shit that he says, I'm just like into like the creep factor that
• 42:18
  I get from it because the original caller like, under the
• 42:23
  way that he delivers all of his lines over the phone, they like
• 42:27
  they kind of go into detail. Like I think the I think was
• 42:30
  like talking about how they did it, they just like had so many
• 42:32
  people do all these things because he's imitating so many
• 42:34
  voices that movie is a very interesting way of providing
• 42:38
  back story forward character because you never, they never
• 42:41
  spell anything out about Billy. You have it all.
• 42:43
  Spelled out from his like incoherent phone calls because
• 42:47
  he's kind of giving the background of Agnes and, you
• 42:49
  know, he's imitating his mom and dad, what did you do with Agnes?
• 42:53
  And you know, all that type of stuff.
• 42:55
  This one right here is just like, what was he said, we're
• 42:59
  all family now Or something like that.
• 43:00
  Yeah, I just like I said, it feels sadness to in the course
• 43:05
  of time to. Yeah, it feels.
• 43:06
  We don't know that yet, but like, I feels very word salad.
• 43:09
  We kind of, we kind of did, because sometimes said imitating
• 43:13
  Billy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, it's
• 43:17
  not, it's not full sentences is jumping around.
• 43:19
  It feels very disjointed. It doesn't really make sense
• 43:23
  until you get more of the flashbacks and you can piece
• 43:25
  that together. So it does do a lot more dummy.
• 43:29
  I'm down for the audience, went all of these phone calls me and
• 43:32
  yeah, plus also adding to the runtime because it's only an
• 43:35
  hour and a half. It's not a super long movie
• 43:39
  Heather storms off. They're like yeah, run home to
• 43:41
  your NASCAR Daddy and I'm like I feel like I wanted more of her
• 43:45
  backstory because I was like wait this is really weird.
• 43:47
  Yeah it's a NASCAR Daddy mean is he redneck and rich or like is
• 43:52
  he like just a fucking redneck seem to hate her though.
• 43:58
  Yeah. She kind of seems to hate all of
• 44:01
  them. Yeah.
• 44:02
  So I'm just like I know I wanted more backstory for her.
• 44:07
  Okay, so then Eve appears she Drew Heather's name.
• 44:12
  So she gives her the Unicorn. I don't know, like two reasoning
• 44:16
  for. It's because she I know you like
• 44:19
  the Bible and stuff. Like what the fuck does a
• 44:21
  unicorn have to do with the Bible and stuff?
• 44:24
  You know, did I miss something from that?
• 44:27
  I went to like church a bunch growing up and out.
• 44:29
  Don't think there was anything about unicorns in the Bible and
• 44:33
  stuff? I don't know.
• 44:37
  Okay, I was just curious. Yeah, so in 1982, we see Mom,
• 44:45
  trying to fuck her boyfriends. Limp dick on the stair
• 44:48
  staircase, Landing, I'm looking at my notes here.
• 44:54
  So, yeah, like they're fucking on the stairs.
• 44:56
  This is a 1980, is when this is To 1982 whatever.
• 45:04
  So she like, here's him up in the attic.
• 45:07
  I know all this from my notes because my notes just says a
• 45:10
  tits, a dangling because she like walks up to him with her
• 45:15
  shirt open and like didn't it's are just dangling around. 222
• 45:24
  thing and that's the scene. Yeah it's a it's bad, it's bad.
• 45:35
  So she can't get off from her boyfriend.
• 45:37
  Here is the rocking chair in the Attic.
• 45:39
  Goes up there and then It's kind of implied.
• 45:44
  What happens? And then, all doubt is a race
• 45:47
  because we get a card that says, nine months later.
• 45:50
  Yeah. And that's when Agnes is born.
• 45:53
  What's a just straight up? Say, incest, a certain point
• 45:56
  waiver to. Yeah, they say, I think Kyle
• 45:58
  does that when he gives the whole Dilly backstory.
• 46:00
  Yeah. So yeah.
• 46:02
  It's a it's, It's upsetting it's very upsetting right after this,
• 46:06
  though, we get a cool homage for me.
• 46:08
  We get like another. It's like the first person shot
• 46:11
  outside. So So it's kind of like, the
• 46:13
  very opening of the original movie, where you get to see him
• 46:17
  like walking around the outside and he climbs up the side of the
• 46:20
  house and goes into the attic except this time, it's just like
• 46:23
  somebody walking around the front and then I think he starts
• 46:26
  the climb up, the, whatever to accept.
• 46:31
  I think they hear the noise and then they go and investigate and
• 46:34
  then they find out. It's fucking Kyle.
• 46:36
  Yeah. That's so it's not really the
• 46:38
  same as cow. He went into Megan's room
• 46:39
  because obviously him and Megan have that little thing going on.
• 46:43
  And he's trying to erase all evidence of it or talked to her
• 46:47
  about, I don't know. Yeah, I really don't know what
• 46:50
  his endgame was but also they get a phone call during all this
• 46:56
  and it's from Megan's phone. Yeah.
• 46:59
  So they get the, you know, meanwhile like Clare had drawn
• 47:04
  Lauren's name and she got her a tea Dance of the sugarplum Fairy
• 47:08
  music box and Lauren says, I because Lawrence been drinking
• 47:12
  all day and Gee, I just thought this was a really funny line.
• 47:14
  Feels like I'm beginning to see those little fuckers.
• 47:17
  I don't need to hear them too. We see how they're packing
• 47:21
  trying to leave. That's when we get the sound and
• 47:23
  they all come running and it turns out Kyle was in Megan's
• 47:26
  room music. Yeah.
• 47:28
  No. I was just, you know, I just was
• 47:31
  trying to get in. I was worried about you all and
• 47:33
  I Megan's room is the easiest one to get into.
• 47:35
  Yeah. The other one Clara's was
• 47:36
  walked. So yeah, very Kelly's or
• 47:40
  whatever. I don't know.
• 47:41
  Yeah. And and their Asia is because
• 47:43
  they just gotten a call from Megan cell phone that was like
• 47:47
  threats and stuff is the same call from before, pretty much.
• 47:51
  Yeah. So he said he's there to see
• 47:55
  Kelly, he's an older man and he's a local.
• 48:00
  He grew up on the street. He's like calling them out
• 48:02
  because he's like, saying you guys are like a bunch of like
• 48:05
  spoiled. Bitches is what he says his
• 48:07
  words, not mine and they just come and leave every four years
• 48:11
  or whatever. He grew up there on that street.
• 48:13
  So he knows the whole history of that house.
• 48:15
  I mean, okay. What should have happened with
• 48:21
  the house in his mind? Then should somebody not have
• 48:23
  bought it? You know what I mean?
• 48:25
  I agree. The whole Billy present
• 48:27
  tradition is distasteful but like, yeah, that's what college
• 48:31
  kids do. Their in a town, for four years
• 48:34
  and then they leave and if as a local, you're annoyed by it.
• 48:39
  Yeah, I guess unless I mean, he's like really proud of his
• 48:42
  Heritage anything or, you know, his location, his hometown.
• 48:46
  So well, then petition, the local government.
• 48:48
  Yeah. Join a board.
• 48:49
  Yeah. What I mean like do not blame
• 48:52
  these women that you are all so fucking like literally and
• 48:56
  metaphorically to yeah like I said women.
• 49:01
  Yeah yeah. So and I'm sure these are not
• 49:04
  the first to Alphacat. I wonder those had relationships
• 49:08
  if he's yeah, he's probably like 30 and he's like, still hooking
• 49:12
  up with these sorority girls. He seems like that type of dude,
• 49:16
  but he might be like, also, just a little bit pissed off because
• 49:19
  he Is that the tradition since he is familiar with the sorority
• 49:21
  and what they do? Yeah, you might be calling him
• 49:24
  out on the whole Billy thing, which is also Fair.
• 49:26
  It is fair. And like I said, I agree with
• 49:28
  that. I just feel like he's got a lot
• 49:30
  of misplaced anger about them being in the house.
• 49:32
  Like I said, somebody would have to buy the house and for it to
• 49:35
  be a sorority house. That's like a whole like
• 49:37
  Municipal thing. Oh, yeah.
• 49:38
  I mean like, yeah, we just went through the whole house buying
• 49:41
  process and they ask, what? Your intention is when you're
• 49:44
  living in a house if they're buying it for a sorority house.
• 49:47
  That's more. That's Not residential in the
• 49:50
  same way that like our houses. You know what I mean.
• 49:52
  So yeah, like I said petition, your local government vote, take
• 49:58
  take some action. Yeah, but Kyle really is there
• 50:02
  to just provide more Exposition. Yay.
• 50:04
  Another flashback 1991. Yep.
• 50:07
  Billy is a, he's he watches his mom and Agnes through telescope.
• 50:13
  That's his Christmas present. He opened it up and in secret
• 50:16
  telescope. Yeah, he gets a call that says
• 50:19
  Our mom gets a call that says she's my family now and when Mom
• 50:25
  comes back from the kitchen because this is 1991 children,
• 50:28
  the phones used to be on the walls.
• 50:32
  She comes back from the kitchen and Agnes has gone and Mom and
• 50:37
  the boyfriend or stepdad or whatever, trying to find her,
• 50:41
  they know it's Billy. And then when they eventually
• 50:44
  like find him and Agnes, they see him eating her eyeball.
• 50:49
  All. So, is it just me or does Billy
• 50:52
  sound like the PT baby from Petey the little baby?
• 50:57
  Oh my God, he's such a drag. Yeah, it's kind of like that,
• 51:02
  right? He sounds exactly like them.
• 51:05
  Oh my God. Yeah, so yeah.
• 51:09
  So then he kills the mom and her boyfriend and heater.
• 51:13
  I know what he does instead is he takes some cookie cutters and
• 51:19
  He's Agnes's. I yeah, he's Agnes's.
• 51:21
  I already said that. Oh, right.
• 51:22
  My bad. Yeah, he, he makes gingerbread
• 51:26
  skin jerky. I appreciated his dedication to
• 51:31
  this this dude. Like preheated the oven
• 51:34
  preheated. That's premeditation there.
• 51:37
  And he's even got the little gloves on.
• 51:39
  Yeah. And it takes a long time to make
• 51:41
  jerky in the oven. Yeah, it takes kiss jerky is
• 51:45
  like it's a dehydration process. I mean for, so for it to be in
• 51:48
  the oven, it has to be too. A really high temperature, and
• 51:50
  has to be in there for like a few hours.
• 51:51
  He's trying to make Christmas cookies.
• 51:54
  Yeah. But, I mean, he's making jerky
• 51:55
  but still like that much. It's kind of at, for Apple.
• 52:01
  I don't know if that's like the best choice of words here, but I
• 52:05
  admire his dedication to this. We got so many Christmas cookie
• 52:11
  patterns over there. I can't wait.
• 52:14
  We seriously have a whole drawer of them that we haven't used all
• 52:16
  year. Yeah, I know.
• 52:17
  It's been a busy year. Yeah.
• 52:19
  Yeah, we're gonna use that. We're going to use them this
• 52:20
  week because my niece is all about some some gingerbread
• 52:24
  cookies. Yeah.
• 52:25
  So I got to teach her how to cook I guess.
• 52:27
  Okay, so the cops show up. Clear.
• 52:31
  Sister shows up. No, I'm saying in the flashback.
• 52:34
  Yeah, announce where Billy is now.
• 52:36
  Sorry about to Clark sanitarium, right in the present.
• 52:42
  Yeah. Kyle says that Agnes lost her
• 52:44
  eye and she is a product of incest.
• 52:48
  So when she went to the orphanage, nobody really wanted
• 52:50
  her sad and nobody knows where she's been since she's just kind
• 52:54
  of in my. Yep.
• 52:56
  Claire's just really shows up. She, she was a legacy.
• 53:01
  But she was like she left before.
• 53:04
  She graduated like she left this wordy.
• 53:06
  So yeah. Nobody's buying it either then
• 53:08
  yeah. I mean like it's one of those
• 53:11
  things. Like is like how did she leave?
• 53:13
  Like did she quit the sorority? Did she go?
• 53:15
  Alum early? We're mentioning I mean clear
• 53:19
  had mentioned lie. That's who she was writing her?
• 53:22
  Yeah. They're like, they're like
• 53:23
  surprised. Like the house that Mom is like,
• 53:25
  oh like when did you when were you here?
• 53:26
  Like she's like, oh, around in like 92 93.
• 53:29
  She's like, oh, I started in 93, I don't Ryu you know like yeah
• 53:33
  that's like they would be like oh yeah she mentioned that she
• 53:35
  had a legacy sister but that's not what happens here.
• 53:38
  Well I mean they they drop it pretty heavy that Claire and her
• 53:42
  sister aren't super close and they're working on getting
• 53:44
  closer. Yeah.
• 53:47
  Lisa. Something about like Oh I
• 53:48
  thought there was supposed to be some sort of alumni dinner.
• 53:50
  Is this what it is? Because it's fucking lame and
• 53:52
  it's got a point. It doesn't look like there was
• 53:56
  really any kind of a plan and it seems like if there was an
• 53:59
  alumni dinner that you know, More of the sisters would still
• 54:03
  be there. Yeah, you know, so, yeah.
• 54:05
  So it's just, I don't know. It's a little weird.
• 54:07
  She sees that there's the present from Billy under the
• 54:11
  tree, and she's like, oh so we're still doing this then
• 54:14
  which Is extra fucked up because if she was there 92 93, that's
• 54:22
  like a year or two after Billy was arrested.
• 54:26
  Yeah. It's like, hey, they started
• 54:28
  that tradition immediately. How soon did they buy this
• 54:31
  house? Well, I imagine it's one of
• 54:33
  those ones where, like, there's like a lot of fucked up shit.
• 54:35
  That went down here, like we're giving this house away, but
• 54:37
  yeah, thousand dollars, sure, we'll take it because nobody is
• 54:41
  gonna buy this. Exactly.
• 54:43
  So, it worked out. Yeah, it's a Yeah, so I went and
• 54:48
  I did not do that math last night, that was me.
• 54:50
  Sitting here going, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, ball
• 54:54
  went on. Yeah.
• 54:55
  So that is an already distasteful tradition.
• 54:59
  It definitely started off as somebody's idea of a sick
• 55:01
  fucking joke. And what's interesting though,
• 55:04
  is they get the wrapping exactly the way that Billy is gift was
• 55:09
  wrapped which is in the newspaper, which is interesting.
• 55:12
  Well actually that's why is that interesting?
• 55:14
  Because that it's not then that put that there.
• 55:17
  I'm stupid. Yeah so somebody planted it and
• 55:20
  obviously it's yeah - so we learned that Lee is 12 years
• 55:26
  older than Claire so that's another big part of the reason
• 55:29
  for their quasi estrangement. But yeah the the present that's
• 55:34
  their it hadn't been there before it's a creepy ass doll.
• 55:37
  And the newspaper that's wrapped in is the same newspaper that
• 55:42
  Eve's Gift to Heather was wrapped in.
• 55:45
  That's what same about it though.
• 55:47
  The also like it has like the newspaper rapping though to
• 55:50
  right? It's a newspaper from 1991,
• 55:52
  right? That's how.
• 55:53
  Yeah, that's how Billy's was wrapped.
• 55:54
  That's how I don't remember that.
• 55:58
  It wouldn't have been a satellite box.
• 56:00
  A better newspaper from 1991. It's in the satellite box.
• 56:03
  Like the present. The Billy got from his dad too.
• 56:06
  Yeah, but that was in the 70s. So, yeah, but I mean it's just
• 56:10
  like the same thing. They're replicating.
• 56:12
  Present kind of amp. So yeah, they decide that
• 56:16
  they're going to go look through Eve's room because Eve is
• 56:19
  actually, in Billy's old room and they're like, what if she's
• 56:22
  like obsessed with him? It is replicating, the murders.
• 56:24
  And I don't like, well, she did leave early Kelly and Kyle are
• 56:30
  in Megan's room looking around and the power has gone off at
• 56:34
  this point. So spooky beforehand, also cows
• 56:39
  snuck in there to try and get rid of either.
• 56:42
  Talk to Megan, or I get rid of like anything that is
• 56:45
  incriminating for him. Did he not see on her computer
• 56:49
  screen like the webpage of their sex tape?
• 56:52
  What would it up right there? Like, why not?
• 56:54
  Just close the laptop? I don't know.
• 56:57
  I thought that would have been the smarter Choice.
• 56:59
  Yeah, so instead, so that he just tries to keep Kelly from
• 57:02
  seeing the laptop screen until it goes idle.
• 57:06
  And then when the power goes out because it's plugged in all of a
• 57:10
  sudden, it gets an alert like, oh, your battery's, Die in 10
• 57:13
  minutes and then that wakes up the screen.
• 57:16
  So she sees the sex tape that's a smart way to do that too.
• 57:19
  It is, that is kind of like, I firmly believe Kyle's, just
• 57:23
  stupid and didn't close the laptop like, oh yeah.
• 57:27
  Yeah, definitely. But yeah.
• 57:29
  So, she's like, you need to get out.
• 57:32
  And he's like, what, no, let's talk about it and then everybody
• 57:34
  else comes in there. Like Kyle get out, we hate you
• 57:36
  anyway, leave that, we're all so excited to kick him out.
• 57:40
  It's like, girl the snow like to get this soldiers.
• 57:42
  Yeah, yeah, we see Lauren throw up, she's passed out and she's
• 57:51
  so drunk. She's not in a good place,
• 57:54
  Melissa helps her out. She's like, this is a really
• 57:57
  sweet scene between the two of them like she takes her
• 57:59
  upstairs. She's like, she's like, it's
• 58:02
  okay, it's okay. Like, you get the impression
• 58:06
  that they're really close and she says you're a better system
• 58:09
  than my actual sis to me. Yeah, yeah.
• 58:11
  It's kind of We moment. So she's just like helping her
• 58:15
  and she was like, listen, it's okay but you're really stinky.
• 58:18
  So you need to take a shower. So all orange showering, the
• 58:24
  quickest shower, ever. Oh my God.
• 58:26
  She just turns on the water. It's like, it feels like almost
• 58:29
  an excuse to just like, hey, here's some tits.
• 58:32
  And that's basically a but also we get to see Billy is watching
• 58:36
  from the floor which that's not a realistic angle to be spying
• 58:40
  on anybody in the shower, he's gonna be looking at this.
• 58:42
  Ceilings. Okay, with all of these tiles
• 58:45
  just popping off the floor. I don't time dude, they're
• 58:48
  college kids and this isn't their permanent home.
• 58:50
  This is like a temporary home for like a year or two you know.
• 58:53
  Like they're just going to be whatever.
• 58:55
  I don't give a fuck like tiles whatever like they're loose.
• 58:58
  I don't give a shit. I would have given a shit in my
• 59:02
  dorm room. If like my tiles were like
• 59:03
  coming up I would be like fuck it.
• 59:05
  I'm out of here in here and I had a doorknob fall off three
• 59:08
  times in my freshman dorm so yeah locked out of my Room
• 59:14
  because the door knob fell off three several times as different
• 59:17
  than tiles being misplaced. I know I'm just saying also is a
• 59:21
  single person room that they shoved two beds and they're
• 59:23
  like, no, this is how it was meant to be and I was like,
• 59:25
  that's a lie. My dressers in the closet.
• 59:28
  Wow, it was bad. It was bad dorm, was that?
• 59:32
  It was the, the honors dorm. Yeah.
• 59:35
  That sucks. Yeah.
• 59:37
  It was a they also yelled at me because I had like I was in the
• 59:41
  top floor. And it was like an angled
• 59:44
  ceiling because of the attic or the roof or whatever.
• 59:47
  And I had a poster on that part of my bed and she's like, you
• 59:52
  can't have posters on the ceiling and I was like, um, it's
• 59:54
  the wall and she was like, no, it's not.
• 59:56
  It's the ceiling. And I was like, oh, this ceiling
• 59:58
  starts three feet from the floor, and is that what you're
• 1:00:00
  telling me? And she just eventually dropped
• 1:00:03
  it? Because I got really
• 1:00:04
  argumentative and I was like, this room is on there for two
• 1:00:06
  people. My doorknob keeps falling off.
• 1:00:12
  Actually lived in that room for a semester.
• 1:00:14
  It was a mess. Also there was the creepiest
• 1:00:17
  room in the basement of that dorm.
• 1:00:20
  Sounds like a good place. Oh yeah.
• 1:00:22
  No I mean my friend went down there to explore like so one of
• 1:00:26
  the rooms it's just creepy. It was never like renovated or
• 1:00:30
  anything and when you go in the closet there's a secret room
• 1:00:33
  behind the closet with a red light bulb in a single chair, no
• 1:00:37
  way. Yes.
• 1:00:38
  That sounds weird staged. It's so creepy, though.
• 1:00:42
  Stage Door, not all the laundry was down in the vase into third.
• 1:00:46
  I was down there. I was like a ghost is definitely
• 1:00:48
  gonna murder me. It's not a go.
• 1:00:49
  See, this is some kind of kinky sex place.
• 1:00:55
  Okay. Okay.
• 1:00:57
  And now that we're done with that tangent.
• 1:01:00
  So Melissa gets Lauren into bed and you know just everybody
• 1:01:05
  knows that she's up there. She passed out she sleeping it
• 1:01:07
  off. Gretchen Wieners.
• 1:01:09
  I forget her character's name. Dana is Adina is Dana Yahweh.
• 1:01:13
  See, Lacey Chabert. Yeah, she goes outside to smoke.
• 1:01:18
  She's also, the only one who knows how to like fix a breaker
• 1:01:22
  in every physical. What, how do you know that
• 1:01:24
  you're so pretty? And she was like, what it's
• 1:01:27
  like, you know, it's just you go to the fuse box like it's not
• 1:01:30
  that big a deal like and then, like, you need to go do it
• 1:01:32
  because know there's clearly somebody like fucking with us.
• 1:01:35
  I don't want to go do that. Well, I don't know.
• 1:01:39
  Well yeah, somebody's definitely fucking with them but the power
• 1:01:41
  is like they've made a point of saying that there's like a heavy
• 1:01:43
  storm going on. Yeah.
• 1:01:45
  No. But I mean like, there's some
• 1:01:47
  suspicious activity happening. Like oh, getting this right?
• 1:01:50
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:01:50
  That's one. Say there is some fucking re
• 1:01:52
  going on here. Fuck Carrie.
• 1:01:54
  Fuck Gary, no Gary. I'm so like halfway coming back
• 1:01:58
  from the Dow code. Santa Claus.
• 1:02:00
  French pronunciation. Okay, okay.
• 1:02:04
  Yeah, yeah. So she She goes.
• 1:02:09
  She's like, fuck it. I'm out here.
• 1:02:11
  I'm just going to go ahead and I'm going to go see if I can go
• 1:02:12
  fix this power. And then now she gets got, I did
• 1:02:15
  not write how anybody died in this movie.
• 1:02:17
  I will get Scott for all of them.
• 1:02:19
  She drops the cigarette into like the little hole and then
• 1:02:23
  she hears like some like little like scampering down underneath
• 1:02:26
  the deck. Yeah.
• 1:02:27
  Because he scampers and I can't remember exactly what happens
• 1:02:32
  again. I would assume that that was
• 1:02:34
  like a cat or a raccoon or something because it's a bit.
• 1:02:36
  It's bad storm. It's like I think she
• 1:02:39
  investigates under there something and gets she gets got
• 1:02:43
  yeah yeah she gets got whatever lays in the Attic looking
• 1:02:49
  around. Kelly gets a call from Dana cell
• 1:02:53
  and he says and imitating Billy. She's mine.
• 1:02:57
  Now they go to look for Dana. They see Eve's car's still there
• 1:03:04
  and they're like that's weird because she left like a really
• 1:03:07
  long time ago. Go.
• 1:03:08
  So they open up her door and her head just a tumbles out.
• 1:03:13
  Yeah. He tumbles right into the snow.
• 1:03:15
  No blood though that's a little weird.
• 1:03:16
  They had her as a red herring earlier to because they like
• 1:03:19
  revealed her full name which was like Eve Agnew or some like
• 1:03:22
  that. Yeah.
• 1:03:23
  So like is she the killer? Like because she was so weird
• 1:03:26
  and they were talking about how she was like oh you guys are my
• 1:03:29
  family and she didn't really have a family she was like any
• 1:03:33
  her family's, she's like an orphan or something.
• 1:03:36
  Family. Yeah.
• 1:03:39
  So they were kind of like dropping hints.
• 1:03:41
  That could be her and yeah. So we get confirmation.
• 1:03:44
  That's not right there. Yep.
• 1:03:49
  So they call 911 but because of the storm, there's the storm,
• 1:03:53
  there was a big accident. There's heavy traffic, 91 total
• 1:03:57
  pileups. Yeah, which is insane.
• 1:04:00
  So they won't be able to get to the house for 2 hours which Some
• 1:04:07
  of them are, okay? With some of them were like,
• 1:04:09
  fuck it. We gotta go to the cops smack
• 1:04:11
  and Heather are like, we need to leave.
• 1:04:14
  We need to go now Kelly and Lee and Melissa.
• 1:04:19
  They're not going to leave it that everybody Kelly's.
• 1:04:21
  Like, I'm not going to leave without these missing people.
• 1:04:24
  Lie is like, I'm not going to leave with my sister and
• 1:04:26
  Melissa's like, hey Lauren's, not even missing.
• 1:04:30
  She's passed out drunk upstairs so like they all refused to
• 1:04:35
  leave. So Miss Mack and Heather.
• 1:04:39
  They are they're gonna go to him as Max car and was Mac.
• 1:04:42
  Pulls out a scraper and she tries to hand it to Heather.
• 1:04:46
  Miller was like what is that? And she calls her a frigid
• 1:04:49
  princess. Like this white.
• 1:04:52
  She's the next card. Yeah.
• 1:04:54
  Like she's from the south. Maybe she's legitimately doesn't
• 1:04:57
  have to scrape her car. Very often.
• 1:05:00
  She had a carport. Mmm.
• 1:05:02
  Yeah, you live in fancy 10. Yes.
• 1:05:08
  So while Miss Mack is a scraping the car windows Heather gets got
• 1:05:14
  inside the car and it's not goes wait what the fuck?
• 1:05:17
  And then she gives got to yeah and it's Billy because you can
• 1:05:21
  tell it's like a doing there and you get the like you see the
• 1:05:24
  yellowish skin tone. Yeah so Billy has entered the
• 1:05:27
  chat. Lauren while she's in bed, feels
• 1:05:31
  somebody get into bed and Spoon her a little bit in.
• 1:05:36
  She tries to attack, but she also gets got.
• 1:05:40
  So, yeah. She, it's kind of, there's like,
• 1:05:43
  an alternate filming of this. There was an alternate filming
• 1:05:45
  of it. Where she just like a suddenly
• 1:05:47
  awakened get stabbed with a unicorn.
• 1:05:49
  Yeah, they're the alternate take is basically like a complete
• 1:05:53
  Recreation of the scene of Barb stuff and they original where he
• 1:05:57
  kind of comes in. You get like the shadow.
• 1:05:58
  Over here and he just like gets on top of her with it's like the
• 1:06:01
  iconic shot. It's on the Shout Factory
• 1:06:05
  Blu-ray cover like you know it's the shot.
• 1:06:08
  I guess that's the one that everybody remembers the Unicorn.
• 1:06:10
  Boom. But yeah.
• 1:06:12
  And this one like it's like a tag team.
• 1:06:13
  So it's like Agnes and Billy both in their kind of like
• 1:06:16
  fucking with her. We see Melissa get attacked with
• 1:06:21
  the Unicorn. Also she gets got her the
• 1:06:26
  alternate death for her and international versions of this.
• 1:06:29
  Is super fucking gory as I like, only International.
• 1:06:33
  Yeah, that's what it said on the special feature.
• 1:06:35
  Oh yeah. So in the international version,
• 1:06:38
  she gets the bag over her head. And she gets pulled down and
• 1:06:41
  then Agnes reaches in and like, Scoops out her eyeballs wall.
• 1:06:45
  She's. Yeah.
• 1:06:45
  And you see the scoop, like she does with her thumb and then she
• 1:06:49
  eats the eyeball and then drags her away, like fingers in the
• 1:06:53
  eye sockets. Drags her and she's still alive.
• 1:06:55
  She's still kicking and screaming.
• 1:06:57
  Yeah, love that death. Oh, trying the fame of death.
• 1:07:00
  Yeah yeah. Oh no.
• 1:07:02
  Wait. That happened before.
• 1:07:03
  Lauren got killed. Did it?
• 1:07:05
  Yeah. Melissa went to go check on her.
• 1:07:08
  I just missed that note before. That's right.
• 1:07:10
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:07:12
  Excuse us. I'm my bad Kelly and we try to
• 1:07:17
  call Melissa. They try to find more it but
• 1:07:20
  then they find Lauren's body. Kyle, appears, Billy calls
• 1:07:24
  Kelly, here's someone. So they go to the attic and
• 1:07:29
  Billy Graham's, Kyle, and kills him.
• 1:07:31
  He's fucking dead Kelly and Lee get up there and he's like he's,
• 1:07:38
  my family, you narrow. I don't such a good Billy eats
• 1:07:43
  another eyeball. I mean, he's going to fill up
• 1:07:45
  on. I bought an ARCA have any room
• 1:07:47
  for gingerbread Ricky. You know.
• 1:07:49
  Yeah he's got room for that. They see everybody up there.
• 1:07:55
  The tree is decorated with heads that have no eyeballs.
• 1:07:58
  It's a it's really fucked up. Yeah, it's kind of cool.
• 1:08:01
  I like that shot. Yeah.
• 1:08:03
  We see a shot of the Killer and we see the right eye only and
• 1:08:06
  for a second I was like, well, I thought this was supposed to be
• 1:08:08
  Agnes but I notice is missing her II and then Kelly stamps are
• 1:08:14
  in the eye and when she pulls it back out, oh, the eyeball comes
• 1:08:18
  with, is if a guy. Yeah.
• 1:08:20
  So I was like, okay, well, yep. Agnes confirmed, Kelly ends up
• 1:08:25
  like falling through a hole in the wall to Is in between the
• 1:08:29
  wall and she's like calling for Lee.
• 1:08:32
  Stop it. There's a hole in the wall where
• 1:08:36
  there is between so she's like screaming, she's likely help me.
• 1:08:47
  We see like, Bill you pop over the edge like staring down, or
• 1:08:50
  should I can only help me and likely burst through the wall
• 1:08:54
  and pulls Kelly out? And I set the house on fire.
• 1:08:58
  No. Yeah, no Billy.
• 1:09:00
  Like, like he's on the other side of the wall and like Billy,
• 1:09:04
  like goes through the wall to, like pulley in and she starts
• 1:09:07
  like stabbing him and shit, or maybe that's Agnes or something.
• 1:09:10
  I don't know. I just remember the shot of like
• 1:09:13
  something happens to Agnes and she falls through the walls and
• 1:09:16
  like I don't know what they did. It was a nice shot by her body
• 1:09:19
  rag doll down like the wall is, it was kind of impressive.
• 1:09:22
  I was like, holy shit. Did they get like somebody to do
• 1:09:24
  a stunt for that? Or did they just like drop like
• 1:09:26
  a dummy doll? Like Down the Walls.
• 1:09:28
  I would think it's, I mean doll would do that rag doll.
• 1:09:30
  Effect best. Yeah.
• 1:09:32
  But like, it looked like realistic.
• 1:09:34
  Like it didn't look like somebody was just like, hmm.
• 1:09:36
  Like, you know, just like flailing all the way down, like
• 1:09:39
  it looks like control like an actual person following.
• 1:09:42
  I mean, maybe maybe it was a person, maybe they'd like a
• 1:09:44
  harness rigging type thing. They're banging up against the
• 1:09:47
  wall, like they're kind of pinball in back and forth just
• 1:09:50
  like, dude, it's a nice shot. Yeah, so you know, the house is
• 1:09:56
  on fire, they, we cut to the Spittle cornered eating goes as
• 1:10:01
  well. Corner going to do their
• 1:10:03
  desensitized to death. Okay, so hold up.
• 1:10:07
  We have four Innings that we're going to review here.
• 1:10:11
  So this is the ending of the movie.
• 1:10:13
  Whistle, the official ending will go through the official
• 1:10:16
  ending normally than what kind of like go over the others kind
• 1:10:20
  of more casually, but go ahead. Okay. so, the corners eating
• 1:10:29
  He's on the phone arguing with his wife about being at work
• 1:10:33
  like. Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 1:10:35
  And yeah, he's doing it's the whole Corner, eating Trove,
• 1:10:38
  Jesse College. It's ever since you brought that
• 1:10:41
  up on my holy shit like this. Oh, I soon as I saw the guys,
• 1:10:44
  like he's gonna have something. Yeah, he's eating Christmas
• 1:10:47
  cookies. Yeah, it's like the weirdest
• 1:10:51
  Trope that exists. I don't know, the lie still
• 1:10:56
  alive and he ends up killing the guy.
• 1:10:58
  We see the lien Kelly and Kelly is hospital room.
• 1:11:02
  Li opens the gift from Claire. It's a little watch that says,
• 1:11:07
  family forever on the back family.
• 1:11:12
  Kelly is taking off to an x-ray and while he is waiting, she
• 1:11:16
  hears a sound and she finds Agnes and gets her Nick broke.
• 1:11:22
  When Kelly comes back from the X-ray, she didn't say leave and
• 1:11:26
  she also knows is that the door is kind of weird.
• 1:11:28
  Or so, actually. Before that though, Kelly is
• 1:11:32
  like taking away and we comes back and there's somebody in the
• 1:11:35
  bed and she thinks it's Kelly. Oh yeah.
• 1:11:38
  And yeah she walks over to like it doesn't quite it looks off
• 1:11:42
  which is like a really creepy shy like just to think about
• 1:11:45
  like you go back and like somebody's lying in bed and they
• 1:11:48
  look like kind of different and I know I'm gonna Kelly your
• 1:11:52
  hair. Got really shitty job, mostly
• 1:11:54
  great, I kind of getting chills just thinking about some like
• 1:11:56
  that. Like, if I walked into the
• 1:11:57
  bedroom and like you're like, you know, like asleep and I go
• 1:12:00
  back there. Like I see like somebody that
• 1:12:02
  kind of like, who looks like you but like the hair is just a
• 1:12:05
  little bit different and I'm like it stallion away like
• 1:12:09
  thinking of that shot from the office of Dwight where he has
• 1:12:10
  like a wig. Yeah, so yeah.
• 1:12:14
  She kills her that? Yeah.
• 1:12:16
  That's how she gets when I broke one.
• 1:12:17
  Kelly comes back from the X-ray. Please not there.
• 1:12:20
  The door is kind of being weird, while she's in bed.
• 1:12:23
  She finds the the engraved part of the watch and then she looks
• 1:12:27
  up and like the light fixture in the sea.
• 1:12:31
  Link starts to fill with blood as she hits the emergency help
• 1:12:34
  button a bunch of times, but they don't hear it because
• 1:12:36
  they're listening to carolers. So these nurses are better at
• 1:12:39
  their jobs. Yes, let's see, she uses
• 1:12:45
  defibrillator member may be kind of like to the sound like that.
• 1:12:50
  It's like how you describe how that person fell down the wall,
• 1:12:53
  like the data from. It's like the sound of falling
• 1:12:59
  down the stairs. She shocks Agnes is brain.
• 1:13:09
  Yeah. Defibrillator whirs.
• 1:13:12
  Defibrillator just a defibrillator.
• 1:13:15
  It's not defibrillator is defibrillators.
• 1:13:17
  Easiest way to say it. Yeah but it's not right
• 1:13:22
  shortcuts baby. Nuclear nuclear.
• 1:13:29
  Okay. So she gets out of the hospital
• 1:13:35
  room, but Billy's right behind her.
• 1:13:39
  She hits him with a crutch but he grabs the crutch and trips
• 1:13:44
  her and he chases her and she ends up being thrown onto tree.
• 1:13:54
  No, you let me take it, let me handle this.
• 1:13:59
  I got this. No you got it right but you got
• 1:14:04
  it. Mixed up no you read that wrong
• 1:14:09
  too like she throws him to the tree.
• 1:14:12
  It goes down through the hallways and then
• 1:14:30
  they get to the Well, and they wrestle there and then she
• 1:14:33
  throws him off of the stairs where he gets impaled by the
• 1:14:35
  star, okay. Yeah.
• 1:14:38
  It's like they weren't Christmas movie and during Christmas, we
• 1:14:44
  bring treasons, I made it. Yeah.
• 1:14:46
  So that's what, that's what happens.
• 1:14:48
  That's how it is. Okay, you like the first
• 1:14:51
  alternate ending the best. Yeah, okay, so you okay, so it's
• 1:14:56
  what stop the movie there? Yeah, that's the end of the
• 1:14:58
  official movie. All right, let me say this piece
• 1:15:00
  first. First, I thought that the
• 1:15:03
  hospital was unnecessary. I don't think that we needed
• 1:15:07
  like this little extra bit of the hospital.
• 1:15:09
  I feel like it dragged on too long.
• 1:15:11
  I feel like they were trying to pad time but yeah, no, it was
• 1:15:13
  definitely trying to Pad Thai because the hospital seems like
• 1:15:16
  12 minutes and the movie is an hour, 32, exactly.
• 1:15:19
  So something wrong with an hour and 20, you know, that's fine.
• 1:15:22
  If that's what you need to tell your story.
• 1:15:23
  Take that time to tell your story.
• 1:15:25
  Yeah. So but yeah, it felt like a
• 1:15:28
  dragon too long but alternate ending number 1.
• 1:15:30
  So what happens? It's basically kind of the
• 1:15:34
  beginning of the first opening static colorful really annoyed
• 1:15:38
  with how long these alternate endings went on, because they
• 1:15:40
  could have started from the same spot each time.
• 1:15:42
  But instead we get so much of the same shots.
• 1:15:45
  Yeah, well it's kind of interesting seeing how they like
• 1:15:48
  they had so many different things shot and then final one
• 1:15:51
  actually kind of like cobbles together water.
• 1:15:52
  The things into it but this one is we goes into the room but has
• 1:15:59
  like a little bit of additional thing.
• 1:16:00
  So there's somebody E in the room over and shared room.
• 1:16:03
  And we see the guys like Rubbernecking.
• 1:16:06
  Mm. Yeah.
• 1:16:07
  You probably heard like Billy Lenz was founded.
• 1:16:11
  Yeah, so I was I was thinking that that was going to play a
• 1:16:14
  part and maybe if I feel like it kind of adds to the creep factor
• 1:16:17
  with this one. So yeah.
• 1:16:19
  Like if nothing else is just creepy for an old man to be
• 1:16:21
  staring at these two women that just went through trauma.
• 1:16:24
  So seeking medical help. I'm getting kind of like Vibes
• 1:16:27
  of kind of like what it's not like abstract.
• 1:16:34
  What's The term for like movies that are like, weird, like David
• 1:16:42
  Lynch type movies, surreal, okay.
• 1:16:46
  It's kind of like, I'm getting like surreal Vibes.
• 1:16:47
  Like, you know, like he goes in there and she goes in there and
• 1:16:50
  then they like he's kind of watching from the back there.
• 1:16:52
  Like he's just keeping is very surreal though, it is.
• 1:16:55
  Yeah, but okay, so yeah. So she goes in there and then
• 1:16:59
  she's talking. It's kind of the same thing
• 1:17:01
  where they're exchanging gifts or not exchanging.
• 1:17:04
  If she's talking about the whole family, Thing she opens up the
• 1:17:06
  watch, whatever. Then Ka Kelly starts, getting a
• 1:17:12
  phone call. And they think that it's the
• 1:17:15
  mom, she opens up the phone and I said, Mom, because Lee has
• 1:17:20
  just told her that her parents are on the way.
• 1:17:21
  And she's like, oh that's probably my Mom calling.
• 1:17:23
  So she looks at the phone and turns out to be Kyle and then it
• 1:17:26
  just like pulls back and it's a shot of outside of the building,
• 1:17:29
  which is how the original exactly, very reminiscent of the
• 1:17:32
  original ending, which I love that ending is so good.
• 1:17:35
  No ending one girl is Left Alive and they're like, yes, please
• 1:17:40
  stay in this house. The site of a murder.
• 1:17:43
  We will go, we will all leave right now and then even though
• 1:17:49
  we know that the killer was inside the house by and spoiler
• 1:17:54
  alert, they all think that the killer was her boyfriend, who
• 1:17:57
  she killed. Yeah.
• 1:17:59
  And so they all leave, they don't know that the Killer is
• 1:18:04
  actually somebody else. Else, and she's alone in this
• 1:18:08
  giant house on Christmas Eve after almost being murdered.
• 1:18:11
  And after killing in self-defense, and then we hear a
• 1:18:14
  phone call. And it pulls out from that shot
• 1:18:18
  like this house. It's static.
• 1:18:19
  It's like, it's like a, the credits for that movie or just
• 1:18:23
  like a shot of the house and it's the phone ringing
• 1:18:26
  constantly constantly. And then I think it ends with
• 1:18:32
  like, I think, like, kind of get confirmation that he Soon.
• 1:18:36
  Yeah. They're like I can't remember
• 1:18:37
  very much implied. It's know.
• 1:18:40
  It's like yeah. The like after like the his
• 1:18:43
  whole Mo and that is basically after he kills he calls kind of
• 1:18:47
  like in this one. Yeah.
• 1:18:48
  So yeah, this one right here. Yeah.
• 1:18:50
  Has I wholesome Porsche and then it's like a lingering shy on the
• 1:18:54
  hospital so you don't know if they're in there or what they're
• 1:18:57
  going to do. I don't know if that fucking old
• 1:18:59
  man next. Like, on the other side of the
• 1:19:02
  curtain is going to be like some kind of freak, you know.
• 1:19:04
  That's kind of like a Additional layer fear there.
• 1:19:06
  So I really like that anything, which that's the one we got.
• 1:19:09
  Okay, number two, number two, nice.
• 1:19:15
  It's been a long day. All right, so okay this is the
• 1:19:19
  one so there's a hospital. Gift exchange blah.
• 1:19:23
  A police officer comes in and so somebody needs to come identify.
• 1:19:26
  The body of Agnes solely goes obviously because Kelly is, you
• 1:19:30
  know, injured. And when she goes down there,
• 1:19:37
  This is when Kelly gets pulled in, for her x-rays or whatever.
• 1:19:40
  Lee is looking. They unzip a body bag that says
• 1:19:44
  lens comma Agnes and it's Claire's body in there and lie
• 1:19:49
  is equal parts. Traumatized Furious and
• 1:19:53
  terrified. Yeah because she's like cool.
• 1:19:57
  That's my sister didn't need to see this again.
• 1:20:00
  I'm sure she had already identified the body.
• 1:20:02
  She didn't didn't need to see this again.
• 1:20:05
  And The cop is and she's like, where the fuck is Agnes?
• 1:20:07
  Where's Agnes? And the cop is like that Agnes
• 1:20:09
  was in there, like this is not the body that was in there
• 1:20:11
  before. Like, I don't know, it everybody
• 1:20:13
  was accounted for. So Lee goes running back up into
• 1:20:16
  Kelly's room and it's that same shot of the like hmm this.
• 1:20:21
  Yes, not quite Kelly. Yeah.
• 1:20:23
  And then that's when Agnes kills her, breaks her neck and I'm
• 1:20:25
  sure. Yeah.
• 1:20:26
  And Kelly comes back from her x-ray.
• 1:20:28
  Same thing, she finds the like back of the watch, we meanwhile
• 1:20:33
  see that Billy is being worked on.
• 1:20:35
  He survived the fire, but he's very badly burnt and they're
• 1:20:39
  trying to revive him and at the same time, that Agnes kills lie,
• 1:20:47
  Billy doesn't pull through his pollster stops, they pronounce
• 1:20:51
  him dead. So tell he's in a room
• 1:20:54
  afterwards doesn't know that Billy is Dad, doesn't know that
• 1:20:57
  Lee is dead, but while she's laying in her bed, she finds
• 1:21:00
  watch piece looks up sees the blood thing again Bowl.
• 1:21:02
  Allah barbecues. Agnes's brain again.
• 1:21:07
  Same way. And then we see her parents
• 1:21:10
  coming to pick her up and as they're taking her out there,
• 1:21:12
  like it's okay, it's okay, he's dead.
• 1:21:14
  They're all dead. And I was like that's McCobb
• 1:21:17
  because like it's not just that like Billy and Agnes are dead.
• 1:21:20
  It's like all of her friends are dead.
• 1:21:21
  Yeah, I said, it's great guys. Let's go and then I'd like, I
• 1:21:26
  like this because it's a very like fucked up sense of humor
• 1:21:29
  but it like the final shot is like they closed the door and
• 1:21:32
  it's got Christmas decorations on it and it is a decoration.
• 1:21:35
  It says peace on Earth. Yeah and then the third ending
• 1:21:39
  is very, very similar to all of that except after they've left
• 1:21:46
  we cut back to Billy's body and so you're like, oh maybe Billy's
• 1:21:52
  not really dead and then we see an orderly is like cleaning up
• 1:21:57
  the bed and somebody comes in. He's like I'm here for the lens
• 1:22:00
  body and he's like, oh more guard, he picked it up and the
• 1:22:03
  guy goes I'm from morgue. Ugh.
• 1:22:06
  And then they go running and then we see behind.
• 1:22:09
  What is clearly, not a real working, smoke detector,
• 1:22:13
  Phillies, I how the fuck does this, dude?
• 1:22:18
  Get in the walls of this hospital because that's what he
• 1:22:20
  do. Dolezal wall man, some men are
• 1:22:24
  Hitman harassment, some men are Dickman.
• 1:22:27
  You know, I went to account first found the water.
• 1:22:29
  I can see it all ran tations. Yeah, he he is he found the hole
• 1:22:34
  in the wall where he a man can see it all somebody dared
• 1:22:37
  somebody like I dare you to make that whole thing.
• 1:22:40
  Like the man the hole in the wall where men could see it all
• 1:22:43
  into a horror movie and this guy was like fucking bitch.
• 1:22:46
  Yeah. It's gonna be a remake.
• 1:22:50
  Yeah. I personally like the second
• 1:22:52
  alternate ending better. You do or they're all dead.
• 1:22:54
  Dead. Okay.
• 1:22:56
  Again, I very much separate all of the black Christmases as
• 1:23:01
  different movies, that's fair. But I mean, it knows it's a
• 1:23:04
  remake and like, definitely rocks the homogeneous.
• 1:23:10
  And I think they do a really good job with them.
• 1:23:12
  I just, I'm just, I'm a sucker for the body switch body bag
• 1:23:16
  thing. No, yeah, yeah.
• 1:23:18
  It's one of those tropes that like, I always see it coming but
• 1:23:21
  like, Iris single time I might. Yeah, that's creepy.
• 1:23:23
  This book, you know, No, yeah, see I like the thing.
• 1:23:26
  Like thin of the person where I don't like things to be nice.
• 1:23:31
  I like to have that like little bit of like holy shit, like I
• 1:23:35
  don't I feel uneasy you know, like, you know, I guess like the
• 1:23:39
  ending of the third one can be kind of like that one too, but I
• 1:23:41
  know I like pulling out not knowing what's happening.
• 1:23:44
  I mean, I feel like in the the second one, like, I still would
• 1:23:48
  have seemed the least dead. I don't know why I like, in my
• 1:23:50
  head. I'm just like, well, yeah, he's
• 1:23:52
  he may be, he's dead. Maybe he's not.
• 1:23:54
  Yeah so okay. How do you feel now that we
• 1:24:00
  talked about it what are you, where you at?
• 1:24:03
  You know, I like it. I think I might bump it up to
• 1:24:08
  seven. Doo doo, doo doo, dee dee
• 1:24:12
  dee-dee-dee, Deedee doodle. I'm summoning up to seven and a
• 1:24:15
  half because I had a good time with it.
• 1:24:17
  Yeah it's a fun movie. I can definitely see is watching
• 1:24:19
  him or around Christmas. I mean you can't beat the
• 1:24:23
  original for me original. It's a 10.
• 1:24:26
  Maybe we'll talk about that one someday.
• 1:24:28
  Yeah, I think we will get through all of the by
• 1:24:31
  Christmases at some point. How do you feel about the
• 1:24:33
  original? I like it.
• 1:24:35
  Like I said, it's I have It's very different messages
• 1:24:41
  throughout. So this one is very much about
• 1:24:43
  like the concept of family. Like, what is blood?
• 1:24:45
  What does found family? What is friendship?
• 1:24:48
  You know what I mean? Like, what a family truly mean,
• 1:24:50
  how do you handle trauma like all of?
• 1:24:52
  That's there. The first movie has a lot of
• 1:24:55
  elements of, like, Still trauma and like maladaptive coping
• 1:25:01
  skills and stuff, but we've got like, what's her face is whole
• 1:25:05
  plot line where she's dealing with a douchey boyfriend and an
• 1:25:08
  unwanted pregnancy. And then we've got this creep,
• 1:25:10
  that's just harassing these women.
• 1:25:15
  It is, I know you and I disagree on this but it is a very
• 1:25:19
  feminist movie. I don't disagree about that, I
• 1:25:21
  definitely agree with that. Why do you think I'd be used to
• 1:25:24
  be you argued, you argued the way?
• 1:25:27
  I interpret it as Feminist movie?
• 1:25:29
  No, I totally buy into like, it's all about like, you know,
• 1:25:32
  women's issues like down to the cops, not believing it.
• 1:25:35
  And then pulling in a man to like, do the same thing and then
• 1:25:38
  they all believed him. I swear to God, we had this
• 1:25:40
  conversation before and you disagreed with me.
• 1:25:42
  I'm glad you think so. Okay.
• 1:25:44
  Well, I'm glad you know, wanting to do what's right for her, you
• 1:25:53
  know. Yeah, no, I'm glad you agree.
• 1:25:55
  I'm glad that you're all right, I'm surprised that you thought
• 1:25:57
  I'd say. I didn't think that my head.
• 1:25:59
  I remember you being like, I don't think it's a very feminist
• 1:26:02
  movie. No.
• 1:26:03
  It's definitely one. Yeah, all right cool.
• 1:26:05
  Cool cool. I'm glad we're on the same page.
• 1:26:08
  Yeah but we were talking about the Remake, I don't know.
• 1:26:10
  Like I definitely think that one's.
• 1:26:11
  I mean how could that one? Also not here very feminist.
• 1:26:14
  Yeah yeah I don't know. That's what I'm saying.
• 1:26:17
  Like it in that it was a very revolutionary movie and I'm
• 1:26:21
  saying several ways to only recently saw it.
• 1:26:24
  But you know, I you can recognize.
• 1:26:26
  Yeah, I guess so. At a time.
• 1:26:28
  If you can tell like, wow, that's like very nice for
• 1:26:32
  something from the 70s. Yeah.
• 1:26:34
  So it's like I said, I just see them as very different movies
• 1:26:37
  and that is a movie that like, for me is kind of like the
• 1:26:41
  strangers versus strangers. Pray at night.
• 1:26:44
  Pray at night is a very fun to watch horror movie.
• 1:26:49
  It's campy, it's Tropi. It's still legitimately spooky
• 1:26:53
  at times. It's one that I like, we have
• 1:26:56
  put on back in the bedroom as we're falling.
• 1:26:58
  To sleep. Don't please.
• 1:27:00
  Don't psychoanalyze us. Falling asleep.
• 1:27:02
  Horror movies. That's a day that could be a
• 1:27:06
  discussion for another day. Yeah.
• 1:27:07
  Because I have feelings about the second strangers, but the
• 1:27:10
  first strangers is one of those. I love it.
• 1:27:13
  It is a fantastic horror movie. It is heavy to watch and that's
• 1:27:19
  kind of how I feel about these two movies.
• 1:27:22
  Yeah I think they both have like very legitimate merits on their
• 1:27:27
  own. But I have like a very different
• 1:27:30
  way. I want to feel when I'm watching
• 1:27:32
  a horror movie about to them 2006 as a little bit more
• 1:27:36
  accessible to more frames of mind for me than 1974 is yeah I
• 1:27:42
  get that. Yeah I think the only thing that
• 1:27:44
  I would change or actually no you had the lower score.
• 1:27:47
  What is one thing that you would change to bump up the score?
• 1:27:49
  Even more for 2006 you know. I would I mean I don't think
• 1:27:58
  know like like I said before like I am of the Mind especially
• 1:28:04
  with this like the whole black Christmas.
• 1:28:07
  I don't even know if you would call it a series but you know
• 1:28:09
  those movies don't show the killer so much like they like
• 1:28:14
  what a see Agnes from like basically the very beginning you
• 1:28:18
  know like if we had some mystery like what like Agnes should have
• 1:28:22
  been revealed. Yeah.
• 1:28:23
  Why not. I would have made it more of a
• 1:28:25
  surprise that there's, ER, because we'd seen Billy.
• 1:28:28
  Yeah, your expect, you go into the black Christmas remake
• 1:28:30
  expecting that to be Billy and you don't expect the whole time,
• 1:28:34
  not realizing that it's a fake. I think that moment up in the
• 1:28:37
  attic would have been even more. Exactly.
• 1:28:40
  Yeah, like, that would have been a cool twist.
• 1:28:43
  I think like like you're halfway through the movie, right?
• 1:28:45
  Holy shit. Like, this is definitely
• 1:28:47
  separating itself because now, it's both of them like, right
• 1:28:50
  from the beginning, right? Oh, it's doing this?
• 1:28:52
  Okay, I guess, this is what we're doing for this.
• 1:28:54
  So that's what I would change. Okay, I did something.
• 1:29:00
  I forgot something didn't do talion.
• 1:29:02
  I didn't do Talia notes because we came back from that.
• 1:29:05
  Christmas party we want. But I was a little buzzed, I had
• 1:29:10
  an Omnibus because I had yeah, I was buzzed and I just I
• 1:29:16
  completely forgot that I normally take Talia notes.
• 1:29:18
  I will say though that Talia was very, very playful.
• 1:29:22
  I remember that being a thing like she wanted to Play it.
• 1:29:24
  Yeah. Like she was very very into it.
• 1:29:26
  She dropped froggy. On instance on.
• 1:29:28
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:29:29
  She tried to light one of her toys on fire.
• 1:29:32
  Yeah. She was rooting around the
• 1:29:33
  house. Yeah, she went.
• 1:29:35
  Yeah she wanted, she wanted gingerbread frog jerky.
• 1:29:39
  Actually like this, just maybe I think she's gonna give it a
• 1:29:42
  seven with you. Okay, cool.
• 1:29:43
  She was very active throughout. I do remember that even without
• 1:29:46
  the notes. So okay, the internet's review.
• 1:29:50
  Yeah, I think we have to get some negative reviews for this
• 1:29:53
  since we both Like the have to get some negative reviews from
• 1:29:56
  the internet. I think most of our listener
• 1:29:58
  reviews were fairly positive to. I didn't see all of them.
• 1:30:02
  Yeah, they were the ones I saw were mostly positive.
• 1:30:05
  Yeah, I don't. Well, I think we did have one
• 1:30:08
  bad review. We'll get into that here in a
• 1:30:10
  second. Okay.
• 1:30:11
  All right. So let's get a 1 star here.
• 1:30:14
  All right. All right.
• 1:30:18
  Black Xmas college girls are being slaughtered by a serial
• 1:30:21
  killer named Billy? They're not really.
• 1:30:25
  And his sister Agnes on Christmas Eve.
• 1:30:27
  We see flashbacks to when Billy was growing, okay, whatever.
• 1:30:30
  Yeah, yeah. I don't need a summary of the
• 1:30:32
  meeting yet. Fuck the fog remake.
• 1:30:34
  This film takes it upon himself to over explain everything about
• 1:30:37
  Billy leaving. Absolutely no mystery which made
• 1:30:39
  Bob quarks original so haunting and fascinating billion.
• 1:30:42
  Agnes is simply a joke weaving absolutely zero suspense just
• 1:30:46
  various Bloodshed with Sharp Tools W of blood spraying and
• 1:30:49
  the crackling of the killing tool as it penetrates the flesh
• 1:30:52
  with ferocity. Whoa, Interest rates of flash of
• 1:30:55
  ferocity. That's what she said because of
• 1:30:59
  nasty vile mean-spirited attitude, leaving a little
• 1:31:02
  glimmer or a little glimmer of hope regarding entertainment
• 1:31:05
  value to be bluntly honest. This stinker is about as
• 1:31:08
  entertaining as pulling of teeth from The Roots.
• 1:31:11
  It's a moronic by the Numbers exercise which insults the
• 1:31:14
  original. Now, there's more but we'll
• 1:31:16
  leave it at that, okay, I can see.
• 1:31:20
  I mean, it's kind of like what you said, you know, there's not
• 1:31:22
  as much mystery, I think the Flash Each box they definitely
• 1:31:25
  were there to explain to the audience.
• 1:31:29
  What the backstory is. I one of the strengths of the
• 1:31:33
  original is that you were very much in the perspective of the
• 1:31:37
  women the whole time. Exactly.
• 1:31:38
  Like you're like we don't know what's going on your entrenched
• 1:31:41
  in that same mystery, you know? And I always say this like if
• 1:31:46
  you're gonna have a slasher and you're going to have a whole
• 1:31:48
  mystery of who done it, it needs to be done in a way that makes
• 1:31:53
  sense. Sense for the characters frame
• 1:31:56
  of reference. Yeah, so if it's just like a
• 1:31:58
  complete stranger having that mystery aspect, makes sense,
• 1:32:03
  because they truly don't know what's going on.
• 1:32:04
  Whereas, with this whodunit, I think that this movie does it
• 1:32:08
  well because it is a local Legend.
• 1:32:11
  You know, they know the guy. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 1:32:14
  Like so I think having the flashbacks pranked sprinkled in,
• 1:32:19
  Serves as well as an audience to kind of get some of that back
• 1:32:22
  story, you know, maybe a little bit more than definitely more
• 1:32:27
  than what the women know. I think if we had taken away
• 1:32:29
  seeing so much of what was happening with billion Agnes, it
• 1:32:34
  would have been really well done.
• 1:32:35
  So I do understand that perspective.
• 1:32:36
  Yeah, I mean it's a horror movie, We Love Kills.
• 1:32:40
  So yeah that goes out. I think the kids are great
• 1:32:43
  because they're pretty good in this one.
• 1:32:45
  Yeah, but yeah totally agree with the whole mystery.
• 1:32:47
  All right, let's go. So for this, I'll start with
• 1:32:58
  aqua way. Boobs.
• 1:33:00
  Is that how you pronounce it? Hi, I'm not sure actually.
• 1:33:05
  So this is a I personally thought 2006 black Christmas was
• 1:33:09
  great. First time I watched it, I never
• 1:33:11
  knew his roommate like you. Hey I'm going to be
• 1:33:14
  controversial though. And I say I prefer the 2006
• 1:33:18
  remake. So there you go.
• 1:33:20
  I told him. I appreciate the controversial
• 1:33:22
  statement. We like hot takes over here.
• 1:33:24
  Yeah, it's kind of like I said to me, I see them as two
• 1:33:28
  completely separate movies, but I guess if you want to say me
• 1:33:31
  calling this one more accessible, you know what I
• 1:33:34
  mean? Like I can see how that could
• 1:33:36
  Edge something into a more favorite position.
• 1:33:40
  Yeah. It's a parent like me.
• 1:33:41
  Enjoyability factor of watching something.
• 1:33:43
  Yeah, you know, kind of like how I'm about to go out here and ask
• 1:33:47
  if we can watch Jack Frost. I don't have full name of this
• 1:33:52
  one. It's somebody from Twitter that
• 1:33:54
  we kind of interact with occasionally.
• 1:33:57
  It's a thin one foggy .dy. I don't get their full handle.
• 1:34:01
  Oh then one foggy. Mr. Steve that's it.
• 1:34:04
  Yeah mr. Steve Universe with.
• 1:34:07
  Yeah, we interact with him a lot.
• 1:34:08
  Yeah. So he says now there's a movie.
• 1:34:11
  That's a legitimate Lee underrated.
• 1:34:12
  I'm glad you said it out loud because when I saw his name
• 1:34:15
  before I thought it said froggy and I did not understand how
• 1:34:18
  that was a Christmas. Handle.
• 1:34:20
  So then one foggy, Christmas. Steve that makes more sense.
• 1:34:23
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:34:26
  So view, I'm just like contemplating how stupid I am
• 1:34:29
  right now? What's the review?
• 1:34:30
  Yeah, that was the same as what generally underrated.
• 1:34:32
  Okay, yeah, no, I definitely agree.
• 1:34:34
  It's underrated. I think it, I think this people
• 1:34:37
  hate on remix remix don't have to be all bad.
• 1:34:39
  This is fun. Yeah, it definitely.
• 1:34:41
  And I again I think if you don't look at it as a remake it's a
• 1:34:45
  lot more fun. Yeah definitely.
• 1:34:47
  Okay we have UND in Grim? From Instagram saying dumb fun
• 1:34:53
  full of holiday the white? Yeah I totally agree.
• 1:34:55
  Definitely. Lee.
• 1:34:56
  I love some holiday or this is definitely fits the bill for
• 1:35:00
  them. Then we have the one negative
• 1:35:02
  review for this and this is our guy in storm, how could you?
• 1:35:06
  He says there's a reason remakes, get a reputation for
• 1:35:09
  being terrible. Which is exactly going against
• 1:35:11
  what you just said, I know. So, I mean, yeah, yeah, okay.
• 1:35:17
  Wasn't and I'm again, I am always going to respect that.
• 1:35:20
  People have different opinions as the whole point in this
• 1:35:22
  pocket. So if people have different
• 1:35:23
  opinions about horror movies, you know, and if You are a huge
• 1:35:28
  fan of the 1974. Original.
• 1:35:33
  I could see how coming into the 2006 being really disappointed.
• 1:35:36
  I'm personally very glad Travis that you weren't.
• 1:35:39
  Yeah, so that way we can enjoy this movie together.
• 1:35:42
  I'm glad I was here. I was really excited to watch
• 1:35:43
  this one. Yeah.
• 1:35:44
  So I'm glad that you got to remain excited after watching
• 1:35:47
  it. Yeah.
• 1:35:48
  And I'm glad that we got to talk about it just now because we
• 1:35:50
  kind of held in a lot of our thoughts after last night so
• 1:35:53
  it's been really good to decompress.
• 1:35:56
  Keeping me like that. Yes.
• 1:35:58
  So yeah. I mean link again I obviously
• 1:36:01
  Obviously like Bob Clark fucking hated this one and I can see it
• 1:36:06
  like it was his baby so I can. Yeah, you know, it.
• 1:36:12
  Again, I all three black Christmas is an existence I love
• 1:36:17
  for very different reasons and I do not see them as the same
• 1:36:20
  movie. So well, the third one,
• 1:36:22
  definitely. That one's like intentionally a
• 1:36:24
  different movie entirely. So, yes.
• 1:36:26
  Okay. Could you relate to?
• 1:36:29
  Oh, A related to Lauren. I've had to have people take
• 1:36:36
  care of me. Yeah, my college days I'm not
• 1:36:39
  proud of it but I've been there. It's not it's good to have you
• 1:36:44
  know people that you can trust that he'll take care of you.
• 1:36:47
  So, okay, I'll say thanks to all of you that are listening right
• 1:36:52
  now. Sorry.
• 1:36:54
  I was a mess. I think I'll say I'll relate to
• 1:36:59
  Heather because I Also had a carport Growing Up music because
• 1:37:04
  I also have a NASCAR Daddy. Yeah, well maybe if that's what
• 1:37:07
  qualifies as a NASCAR daddy than hell.
• 1:37:09
  Yeah, collapse with so much snow on it though.
• 1:37:12
  So it wouldn't have survived. The storm that was in the movie.
• 1:37:14
  I remember. When that happened.
• 1:37:16
  I completely forgot. But you still have a carport.
• 1:37:18
  It was there when we first started dating?
• 1:37:20
  Yep, quotes, but it's been gone for so long that I forgot.
• 1:37:22
  It was everything too much. Snow happened.
• 1:37:24
  And it got too heavy. All right, let's see.
• 1:37:29
  Also dream sequel. Got anything.
• 1:37:34
  So, which ending are we going with for the dream sequel?
• 1:37:40
  Let's go with one that leaves a more open.
• 1:37:41
  And OK, let's go to the alternate ending one with that.
• 1:37:44
  Final phone call. Okay from Kyle's.
• 1:37:47
  So I'm thinking a Halloween to type thing where it takes place
• 1:37:51
  in the hospital picks up immediately after.
• 1:37:53
  Okay, so like how all of the other endings, you were annoyed.
• 1:37:57
  Because they felt like they dragged on too long.
• 1:38:00
  They were unnecessary. It's like flesh out that idea
• 1:38:02
  more. Yeah.
• 1:38:03
  Make With its own movie. Like I don't need that to be the
• 1:38:05
  ending of this one. Like I like the pullout for the,
• 1:38:09
  but then yeah. Like pick it up in the hospital
• 1:38:11
  hospital settings. For horror movies are always
• 1:38:13
  awesome. Yes.
• 1:38:13
  Because I think one of the great things about it is because a
• 1:38:16
  hospital is a place that you're supposed to feel safe.
• 1:38:18
  Yeah. Or you know, also I wanted that
• 1:38:21
  goes on there to naturally. Yeah, whatever.
• 1:38:23
  It's kind of a naturally spooky Place.
• 1:38:24
  Yeah. Well, you're supposed to feel
• 1:38:26
  safe from like serial killers? Yeah.
• 1:38:28
  Not necessarily safe from Death itself.
• 1:38:30
  Yeah. Okay.
• 1:38:31
  I like that. I like that ending.
• 1:38:34
  Let's see. All right.
• 1:38:37
  Next week, we are covering 13 slays till Christmas.
• 1:38:42
  This is one that you may, or may not have heard of if you're a
• 1:38:44
  local and Kentucky it locally and Kentuckian.
• 1:38:49
  Oh my God. If you're a Kentuckian, a lot of
• 1:38:53
  this movie was filmed in Western Kentucky, which is really,
• 1:38:56
  really exciting. The producer and the director
• 1:38:59
  for several of the shorts is from Western Kentucky.
• 1:39:03
  As is another director. Is he like another producer to
• 1:39:08
  think so yeah. Like owners of the production.
• 1:39:10
  Yeah blood moon Productions. He wrote one of the short.
• 1:39:13
  Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:39:14
  He wrote scary in it. Yeah, so it's called 13th Place
• 1:39:18
  till Christmas. It is a whore.
• 1:39:21
  Is a Christmas horror Anthology 13 different shorts.
• 1:39:27
  The 13th. One is a little bit, it's not
• 1:39:30
  the same as the other shorts, but yeah, it's It's a lot of
• 1:39:34
  fun. It's available on to be, it's
• 1:39:37
  available on Amazon. Prime we have it on Blu-ray
• 1:39:41
  because we get to meet and talk with.
• 1:39:43
  Yeah, we got to meet and talk with the director, several of
• 1:39:46
  the directors and actors. And we talked to the owners, the
• 1:39:49
  blood moon Productions, and they're just like, super horny
• 1:39:53
  nerds. Yeah, we wanted to have them on
• 1:39:55
  for this episode but it just didn't work out with scheduling
• 1:39:59
  but they're really cool guys and they're just like super super
• 1:40:01
  into horse. Oh wait.
• 1:40:03
  We do have a lot of like, fun facts about it.
• 1:40:07
  It's we've ever next week. Yeah, we'll leave it for next
• 1:40:10
  week. Be sure to check it out.
• 1:40:11
  It's great. It's a good time.
• 1:40:13
  It's an anthology. So it's even one of those that
• 1:40:15
  if you don't feel like, you know, I can write in the
• 1:40:18
  beginning. Give the next one.
• 1:40:19
  Another chance, you know? Yeah, it's no short.
• 1:40:21
  Is longer than like six minutes I think.
• 1:40:24
  Yeah, they're really short. Yeah, so well he's trying to
• 1:40:26
  cram in 1313. So yes.
• 1:40:28
  So if you're like, oh God, 13 shorts.
• 1:40:30
  Can't handle that, it goes by so much faster.
• 1:40:33
  Straight. Then you would think so.
• 1:40:34
  All right. Give her plugs.
• 1:40:37
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• 1:40:40
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• 1:40:41
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• 1:40:43
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  It's just our name. You brought us on Instagram,
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  least favorite scary movie podcast.
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  You can find us on Twitter at Least fav pod, you can email us
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  least favorite scary movie at gmail.com.
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  If you do that, who knows? We might end up talking about a
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  movie. You recommend it to us.
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  I've already done that once. Yeah, we've already done it
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  once, you know, we really like interacting with everybody.
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  Everybody super great. Yeah we like seeing people
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  obviously Travis and I are big into the cheese and it's really
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  fun talking to other people that are also big into the cheese and
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  kind of getting people to be like well I might not have
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  admitted this before, but yeah. I do like this movie so it's
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  really great to get that experience with everybody.
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  It's just great to have a community of people that you can
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  talk to and legitimately no opinion.
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  Is wrong around here. Yeah, you know, accept them.
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  All I feel like we try to be open-minded about it.
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  Yeah, so yeah, that's it. All right we'll see you all next
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  week. All right.
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  Bye. She tried to stab them with the
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  again. God.
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  Damn, dude. I guess this is going to be your
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  after after episode thing. Yes.
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  How does this happen? Are you like, are you moving it
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  around? Okay, I'm pause.