Latest / Why Humans Lie / He Lived In Her House - How He Quietly Took Everything
Transcript
- 0:03Speaker 1: A bone dry, spiral notebook wedged in a willow fork
- 0:07Speaker 1: four feet above a flooded river. The water had been
- 0:10Speaker 1: running four feet above seasonal average for ten days. The
- 0:15Speaker 1: nearest solid ground was sixty yards upstream through standing water
- 0:19Speaker 1: and BlackBerry cane. That notebook should have been soaked through
- 0:23Speaker 1: or gone entirely. Ruth Paget had fished that stretch of
- 0:27Speaker 1: river below the Root nine Bridge every Wednesday and Saturday
- 0:30Speaker 1: for eleven years. She knew what belonged there. On a
- 0:33Speaker 1: Wednesday morning in the first week of December twenty nineteen,
- 0:37Speaker 1: she pulled her trot line and noticed the notebook dry
- 0:40Speaker 1: and with pages intact. She opened it. What she found
- 0:43Speaker 1: inside would bring a financial crimes investigator named Terry Meyer
- 0:48Speaker 1: to a kitchen table in Callaway, Alderman County within forty
- 0:52Speaker 1: eight hours. It would also lead officers to a budget
- 0:55Speaker 1: motel forty miles east of town, where a forty eight
- 0:59Speaker 1: year year old woman named Lisa Nelson had been alone
- 1:03Speaker 1: for two days, alive, uninjured, and unable to explain even
- 1:08Speaker 1: to herself, exactly why she had run. There is something
- 1:11Speaker 1: particular about this case that resists easy framing. Lisa Nelson
- 1:16Speaker 1: was not a young woman in an obviously dangerous situation.
- 1:20Speaker 1: She had a job she had held for years, a
- 1:22Speaker 1: house she had owned for fourteen years, a close friend
- 1:26Speaker 1: she visited every Thursday. From the outside, her life looked stable.
- 1:30Speaker 1: From the inside, it had been quietly methodically taken apart,
- 1:36Speaker 1: piece by piece over almost three years, by a man
- 1:40Speaker 1: she had met at the fitness center attached to her
- 1:42Speaker 1: own workplace. His name was Mark Schultz. He was thirty
- 1:46Speaker 1: four years old. He was a certified personal trainer. This
- 1:51Speaker 1: case is not about a weapon or a missing body.
- 1:54Speaker 1: It is about something harder to see. How a person
- 1:58Speaker 1: can lose confidence in her own perception so completely that
- 2:02Speaker 1: when she finally decides to leave, she does it alone
- 2:06Speaker 1: in a two hour window with one bag, because she
- 2:09Speaker 1: no longer trusts anyone enough to call them. The notebook
- 2:13Speaker 1: Ruth found that Wednesday morning was seven months of documentation.
- 2:17Speaker 1: Lisa had been keeping a secret record since May twenty nineteen,
- 2:21Speaker 1: written during lunch breaks, hidden in a desk drawer at work,
- 2:26Speaker 1: moved repeatedly when she feared Mark had found her hiding places.
- 2:30Speaker 1: It was the first evidence investigators had that Lisa had
- 2:33Speaker 1: understood on some level what was being done. To her,
- 2:37Speaker 1: and it was the last thing she touched before she
- 2:40Speaker 1: walked away from the life she had built. Lisa Nelson
- 2:43Speaker 1: had moved to Callaway some time after her divorce from Philip,
- 2:46Speaker 1: who later remarried. She bought the house on Weller Street
- 2:50Speaker 1: and kept it for fourteen years. She worked as a
- 2:53Speaker 1: billing coordinator at an orthopedic practice, detail oriented work, deadline driven,
- 2:59Speaker 1: the kind of job where accuracy matters every single day.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Her daughter Meg, twenty three, lived four hours north. They
- 3:08Speaker 1: stayed in contact. Lisa had a structure to her week,
- 3:12Speaker 1: a rhythm she had built on her own terms, and
- 3:14Speaker 1: by all accounts, she kept to it reliably. That reliability
- 3:18Speaker 1: was eventually the thing that made her vulnerable. Connie Hard
- 3:22Speaker 1: had known Lisa since their daughters were in elementary school together.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Connie was sixty one, recovering from a knee replacement, living
- 3:30Speaker 1: at the Birchwood Complex, twelve minutes from Lisa's house. Every Thursday,
- 3:36Speaker 1: Lisa drove over. It was the one fixed social appointment
- 3:40Speaker 1: in her weak, steady, predictable, a constant that had survived
- 3:45Speaker 1: the divorce and everything after it. Lisa met Mark Schultz
- 3:50Speaker 1: in January twenty seventeen. He worked at the fitness center
- 3:54Speaker 1: connected to her workplace building, which meant their paths crossed
- 3:58Speaker 1: in the ordinary way, the way pe meet in shared spaces,
- 4:01Speaker 1: attached to daily routines. He was certified, he was attentive,
- 4:07Speaker 1: and he was, according to accounts from that period, exceptionally
- 4:12Speaker 1: good at making people feel seen. By September twenty seventeen,
- 4:17Speaker 1: Mark had moved into Lisa's house on Weller Street. The
- 4:21Speaker 1: arrangement was described as temporary. He never established a separate address.
- 4:26Speaker 1: That transition from trainer to live in partner in under
- 4:30Speaker 1: nine months is the first structural marker in what a
- 4:33Speaker 1: forensic psychologist would later describe that trial as a deliberate progression.
- 4:37Speaker 1: The psychologist outlined the sequence love bombing, then body image targeting,
- 4:43Speaker 1: then the incremental installation of doubt, comments about sodium retention,
- 4:49Speaker 1: questions about whether the scale was accurate, observations about her
- 4:53Speaker 1: food tracking, each one small enough to dismiss each one.
- 4:57Speaker 1: Building on the last cow worker died. Anne Foss, who
- 5:01Speaker 1: worked alongside Lisa at the orthopedic practice, later noted that
- 5:05Speaker 1: she had watched the erosion happen without being able to
- 5:09Speaker 1: name it at the time. She confirmed that Lisa had
- 5:12Speaker 1: mentioned paying for what she called a specialized nutrition protocol.
- 5:17Speaker 1: That phrase clinical, expensive sounding self improving is worth holding onto,
- 5:23Speaker 1: because starting in March twenty eighteen, monthly transfers of between
- 5:27Speaker 1: four hundred and nine hundred dollars began moving out of
- 5:31Speaker 1: Lisa's accounts. The memos on those transfers read like a
- 5:35Speaker 1: wellness routine, supplement, names, training program labels. The destination was
- 5:40Speaker 1: an LLC registered in the name of a fitness equipment company.
- 5:44Speaker 1: Mark Schultz had registered that LLC without Lisa's knowledge from
- 5:48Speaker 1: March twenty eighteen through October twenty nineteen, nineteen months more
- 5:54Speaker 1: than twelve thousand dollars every transfer labeled as self care.
- 5:59Speaker 1: By spring to twenty eighteen, something else had shifted. The
- 6:03Speaker 1: forensic psychologist described it this way. Lisa had stopped trusting
- 6:07Speaker 1: her own perceptions, not dramatically, not all at once. She
- 6:12Speaker 1: had simply arrived incrementally at a place where her read
- 6:16Speaker 1: on a situation felt less reliable than his. That is
- 6:20Speaker 1: the architecture of coercive control. Not a lock on a door,
- 6:25Speaker 1: but a lock on a judgment. And by the time
- 6:27Speaker 1: Lisa understood what had happened to her, she had been
- 6:30Speaker 1: living inside it for more than a year. She started
- 6:34Speaker 1: writing in May twenty nineteen. The first entry, according to
- 6:38Speaker 1: investigator Terry Meyer, contained a line that Meyer later referenced publicly.
- 6:43Speaker 1: It was the first time Lisa had said any of
- 6:45Speaker 1: it out loud and heard how it sounded. Seven months
- 6:50Speaker 1: of entries followed during lunch breaks, in a desk drawer
- 6:55Speaker 1: and in new hiding places when the old ones felt compromised.
- 6:59Speaker 1: That notebook was the only record she made, and on
- 7:02Speaker 1: a Tuesday evening in early December two thousand nineteen, she
- 7:06Speaker 1: placed it on the railing of the Route nine bridge
- 7:09Speaker 1: and walked away. The Root nine bridge stood over four
- 7:12Speaker 1: feet of flood water. The nearest solid ground was sixty
- 7:16Speaker 1: yards up stream through standing water and BlackBerry came, and
- 7:21Speaker 1: somewhere in the branches of a willow below that bridge,
- 7:24Speaker 1: a bone dry notebook waited seven months of a woman's
- 7:27Speaker 1: secret life, perfectly preserved. Ruth Paget had fished that stretch
- 7:32Speaker 1: every Wednesday and Saturday for eleven years. She knew the
- 7:36Speaker 1: river's moods. She knew which willow forks held debris after
- 7:40Speaker 1: a flood, and which once held nothing at all. When
- 7:43Speaker 1: she pulled the note book out on that Wednesday morning
- 7:46Speaker 1: in the first week of December two thousand nineteen. She
- 7:49Speaker 1: did not understand what she was holy, but she understood
- 7:53Speaker 1: that it should not have been dry. That single impossible detail,
- 7:57Speaker 1: a dry note book in a flooded river, four feet
- 8:00Speaker 1: above the water line, sixty yards from anything a person
- 8:04Speaker 1: could stand on me is what brought financial crimes investigator
- 8:09Speaker 1: Terry Meyer into Lisa Nelson's life. Meyer was called in
- 8:12Speaker 1: after Pageant brought the notebook to the Alderman County Sheriff's office.
- 8:17Speaker 1: He read it in a single sitting. What he found
- 8:20Speaker 1: was not a diary in the conventional sense. It was documentation, dates, amounts,
- 8:27Speaker 1: direct quotes from comments Mark had made about Lisa's sodium intake,
- 8:32Speaker 1: her water retention, the reliability of her bathroom scale, a
- 8:36Speaker 1: running record of the moments when she had questioned something
- 8:39Speaker 1: and then, page by page stopped questioning it. The first
- 8:44Speaker 1: entry was dated May two thousand nineteen. According to Meyer,
- 8:48Speaker 1: it contained a line he later referenced in public statements.
- 8:52Speaker 1: It was the first time Lisa had said any of
- 8:54Speaker 1: it out loud and heard how it sounded. She had
- 8:58Speaker 1: written the notebook during lunch break at the orthopedic practice.
- 9:02Speaker 1: She had kept it in her desk drawer. She had
- 9:05Speaker 1: moved it when the old hiding places felt compromised. Seven
- 9:08Speaker 1: months of entries made in secret by a woman who
- 9:12Speaker 1: had learned not to trust her own instincts, and who
- 9:15Speaker 1: had decided somewhere in that process to write everything down anyway.
- 9:20Speaker 1: That decision would become the spine of the entire investigation.
- 9:24Speaker 1: But here is the thing. When Meyer first read the
- 9:28Speaker 1: note book, it was evidence of psychological and financial harm.
- 9:32Speaker 1: It was detailed, credible, and deeply concerning. What it was
- 9:36Speaker 1: not not yet was sufficient for criminal charges. The bank
- 9:41Speaker 1: records hold under the first warrant showed the transfers clearly
- 9:45Speaker 1: from March two thousand eighteen through October two thoy nineteen
- 9:49Speaker 1: nineteen months between four hundred and nine hundred dollars each month,
- 9:54Speaker 1: memos reading like a wellness routine destination a LLLC registered
- 9:59Speaker 1: in the name of a fitness equipment company in Mark
- 10:02Speaker 1: Schultz's name without Lisa's knowledge. The records were by every
- 10:07Speaker 1: account damaging but not conclusive. That gap between what the
- 10:12Speaker 1: notebook said and what the law required is where the
- 10:16Speaker 1: investigation stalled, and it is where a second name entered
- 10:21Speaker 1: the record. Deborah Holton, forty four years old, Warwick County.
- 10:26Speaker 1: She had filed a civil complaint against Mark Schultz in
- 10:29Speaker 1: February twenty eighteen. The complaint was dismissed for lack of documentation.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Meyer reached her by phone on December twelfth, twenty nineteen,
- 10:39Speaker 1: three days after Lisa was found alive at a budget
- 10:42Speaker 1: motel forty miles east of Callaway. Holton's account was structurally
- 10:47Speaker 1: identical to Lisa's, not similar, identical in structure, the same progression,
- 10:54Speaker 1: initial warmth, then body image comments, then incremental doubt, then
- 10:59Speaker 1: findinancial transfers framed as self improvement, a different woman, a
- 11:04Speaker 1: different county, two years earlier, and the same architecture. The
- 11:08Speaker 1: civil complaint had been dismissed because Holton lacked documentation. Lisa
- 11:13Speaker 1: had seven months of it that a symmetry one woman's
- 11:17Speaker 1: record validating another woman's dismissed word shifted something in the
- 11:22Speaker 1: evidentiary picture, but the case still needed something harder. Mark
- 11:27Speaker 1: Schultz had been arrested on December nineteenth. His partial confession
- 11:32Speaker 1: ten days later acknowledged the transfers, acknowledged accessing Lisa's documents
- 11:38Speaker 1: without authorization, acknowledged knowing about Holton's complaint at the time
- 11:43Speaker 1: he began his relationship with Lisa. That last point is
- 11:47Speaker 1: worth sitting with. He knew he knew a prior complaint existed,
- 11:51Speaker 1: he moved forward anyway. What the confession did not address,
- 11:55Speaker 1: what it could not account for, was the laptop. Investigators
- 12:00Speaker 1: had executed a second warrant at the home of Mark's sister,
- 12:04Speaker 1: where he had taken his laptop after Lisa fled on
- 12:07Speaker 1: the morning of Saturday, December seventh. She had left during
- 12:11Speaker 1: a two hour window when Mark was contracted to train
- 12:15Speaker 1: a client one back her car. She called no one.
- 12:19Speaker 1: She no longer trusted her own account of events enough
- 12:22Speaker 1: to explain it to another person. He moved to his
- 12:25Speaker 1: sister's house within seventy two hours of Lisa's disappearance. The
- 12:29Speaker 1: laptop was recovered later on December twenty seventh. The laptop
- 12:34Speaker 1: contained scanned copies of Lisa's financial documents, her insurance policies,
- 12:39Speaker 1: her mortgage statement, and a draft incomplete but legible, attempting
- 12:44Speaker 1: to change the beneficiary on Lisa's life insurance policy. That
- 12:48Speaker 1: draft was not a financial exploitation charge. It was something
- 12:52Speaker 1: investigator stared at for a long time without being able
- 12:55Speaker 1: to charge it directly, but it recontextualized everything that had
- 12:59Speaker 1: come before. The transfers were not opportunistic. The schedule surveillance,
- 13:04Speaker 1: Mark calling Connie Hart at least four times to confirm
- 13:08Speaker 1: Lisa's Thursday routine believing he was speaking to a concerned
- 13:11Speaker 1: partner was not casual. The erosion of Lisa's perceptions had
- 13:16Speaker 1: not been incidental. The forensic psychologist who testified at trial
- 13:21Speaker 1: described the progression in precise stages love bombing, then body
- 13:26Speaker 1: image targeting, then incremental doubt installation, then learned helplessness, then
- 13:33Speaker 1: financial isolation, then physical isolation. Each stage made the next
- 13:38Speaker 1: one easier, Each stage made the last one harder to see.
- 13:42Speaker 1: Lisa had named all of it in a spiral bound
- 13:46Speaker 1: notebook written in secret over seven months, placed on a
- 13:50Speaker 1: bridge railing on a Tuesday night when she had finally
- 13:53Speaker 1: decided to leave, and found dry and intact by a
- 13:58Speaker 1: woman who had fished the same stretch of river for
- 14:01Speaker 1: eleven years. The question that remained, the one the investigation
- 14:06Speaker 1: had to answer before any of this could become a sentence,
- 14:10Speaker 1: was whether the law had language for what Mark Schultz
- 14:13Speaker 1: had done. Terry Meyer had been working financial crimes for
- 14:17Speaker 1: eleven years when Lisa Nelson's note book landed on his desk.
- 14:22Speaker 1: He had seen forged signatures, drained accounts, fabricated invoices. He
- 14:28Speaker 1: had not seen this seven months of handwritten documentation, organized
- 14:33Speaker 1: by date, describing a system so incremental that no single
- 14:37Speaker 1: entry would have alarmed any one. Together, they mapped something unmistakable.
- 14:41Speaker 1: The first warrant produced bank records and texts damaging. Not
- 14:46Speaker 1: yet conclusive on criminal charges, Mark Schultz knew what had
- 14:52Speaker 1: been seized. Within seventy two hours of Lisa's disappearance, he
- 14:56Speaker 1: moved to his sister's house and took his laptop with him.
- 14:59Speaker 1: That was the decision that ended him. The second warrant,
- 15:03Speaker 1: executed December twenty seventh, recovered the laptop from the sister's residence.
- 15:08Speaker 1: On it scanned copies of Lisa's financial documents, her insurance policies,
- 15:13Speaker 1: her mortgage statement, and the draft attempting to change the
- 15:16Speaker 1: beneficiary on her life insurance policy incomplete, dated and legible.
- 15:22Speaker 1: Meyer later described that beneficiary draft as the document that
- 15:26Speaker 1: transformed the investigation. The transfers could be argued as consensual.
- 15:31Speaker 1: The schedule surveillance could be characterized as a concerned partner
- 15:35Speaker 1: checking in the erosion of Lisa's perceptions left no physical trace.
- 15:40Speaker 1: But a man does not draft a change to a
- 15:43Speaker 1: woman's life insurance beneficiary by accident. He does not scan
- 15:47Speaker 1: her mortgage statement out of casual interest. The partial confession
- 15:51Speaker 1: came December twenty ninth. Mark Schultz acknowledged the financial transfers.
- 15:56Speaker 1: He acknowledged unauthorized access to Lisa's documents. He acknowledged prior
- 16:01Speaker 1: knowledge of Deborah Halton's complaint, the one filed in February
- 16:05Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen and dismissed for lack of documentation. That
- 16:09Speaker 1: acknowledgment mattered. It meant he had known another woman had
- 16:13Speaker 1: tried to name what he did, he had continued anyway.
- 16:18Speaker 1: Deborah Halton was forty four when investigators reached her by
- 16:22Speaker 1: phone on December twelfth. She had filed her civil complaint
- 16:27Speaker 1: two years earlier, with no record to support it, and
- 16:30Speaker 1: it had gone nowhere. Her account of the relationship, the
- 16:34Speaker 1: incremental erosion, the financial transfers, framed as care the increasing
- 16:39Speaker 1: dependency was structurally identical to leases. The difference investigators noted
- 16:45Speaker 1: was the note book Deborah Halton had no note book.
- 16:49Speaker 1: That distinction meant something in the court room. It also
- 16:52Speaker 1: meant something beyond it. In the fall of two thousand twenty,
- 16:56Speaker 1: Mark Schultz was sentenced to four years on two counts
- 16:59Speaker 1: of financial exploitation of a vulnerable adult. Restitution was ordered
- 17:04Speaker 1: to both Lisa Nelson and Deborah Holton. The beneficiary change
- 17:08Speaker 1: draft was never charged as a separate offense. The record
- 17:12Speaker 1: does not show at meeting the threshold for an independent count,
- 17:15Speaker 1: but it had done its evidentiary work. It had closed
- 17:18Speaker 1: the question of intent. Lisa Nelson was forty eight years
- 17:22Speaker 1: old when she drove away from her own house on
- 17:25Speaker 1: the morning of Saturday, December seventh. She had one bag
- 17:29Speaker 1: she called no one. She checked into a budget motel
- 17:33Speaker 1: forty miles east of Callaway and stayed there for two
- 17:36Speaker 1: days alone before investigators located her on December ninth. She
- 17:41Speaker 1: was uninjured. She had not been physically harmed at any
- 17:45Speaker 1: point in the record. That fact is both true and insufficient.
- 17:49Speaker 1: The forensic psychologist who testified a trial described a progression
- 17:53Speaker 1: that required no physical contact to be complete. Love bombing,
- 17:58Speaker 1: body image targeting, incremental doubt installation, learned helplessness, financial isolation,
- 18:06Speaker 1: physical isolation. The last stage, the one that nearly worked,
- 18:10Speaker 1: was the erasure of Lisa's confidence in her own perception.
- 18:14Speaker 1: By the time she left, she could not call Connie
- 18:16Speaker 1: Hard because she no longer trusted her own account of
- 18:19Speaker 1: events enough to speak it aloud. She had trusted a
- 18:22Speaker 1: note book instead. In January twenty twenty, Lisa Nelson returned
- 18:27Speaker 1: to the Weller Street house. She resumed her Thursday visits
- 18:31Speaker 1: to Connie Hart. She went back to the orthopedic practice.
- 18:35Speaker 1: She did not return to the fitness center. The following spring,
- 18:39Speaker 1: investigators returned the note book to her. She kept it.
- 18:43Speaker 1: She did not discard it. Terry Meyer, the financial crimes
- 18:47Speaker 1: investigator who built the case, later noted that Lisa's written
- 18:50Speaker 1: sentencing statement was one of the clearest accounts of coercive
- 18:54Speaker 1: financial control he had encountered in his career. She had
- 18:58Speaker 1: not written it for him, She had not written it
- 19:00Speaker 1: for a jury. She had written it because, at some
- 19:04Speaker 1: point in the spring of two thousand nineteen, she had
- 19:07Speaker 1: needed to hear how the situation sounded when it was
- 19:10Speaker 1: stated plainly. The notebook was the first place she had
- 19:14Speaker 1: done that. The sentencing statement was the second. What this
- 19:18Speaker 1: case turned on was not a single dramatic piece of evidence.
- 19:22Speaker 1: It turned on accumulation, a pattern of transfers and visible
- 19:25Speaker 1: in isolation. A schedule relayed in good faith by a
- 19:29Speaker 1: friend who had no reason to suspect harm. A laptop
- 19:32Speaker 1: moved to a sister's house in the space between a
- 19:35Speaker 1: missing person's report and an arrest. A note book placed
- 19:39Speaker 1: on a bridge railing on a Tuesday night by a
- 19:41Speaker 1: woman who had finally decided to leave but did not
- 19:45Speaker 1: yet know who would believe her. None of those things
- 19:48Speaker 1: alone would have been enough. The dry notebook in the
- 19:51Speaker 1: flooded willow Fork, found by Ruth Paget on a Wednesday morning,
- 19:55Speaker 1: the way she found it every Wednesday for eleven years,
- 19:58Speaker 1: was not a miracle of preservation. Al Tretder had set
- 20:01Speaker 1: it there the night before on a boat hook, intending
- 20:04Speaker 1: to retrieve it the next day. He forgot Ruth didn't.
- 20:08Speaker 1: The explanation is ordinary. What it produced was not coerfive.
- 20:13Speaker 1: Control of this kind is difficult to prosecute, precisely because
- 20:18Speaker 1: it is designed to be difficult to see. Mark Schultz
- 20:21Speaker 1: registered in LLLC in the name of a fitness equipment company.
- 20:25Speaker 1: He wrote supplements in the memo line. He called Connie
- 20:30Speaker 1: Hart to confirm Lisa's Thursday schedule. While positioning himself as
- 20:34Speaker 1: a devoted partner, he coached a woman toward dependency using
- 20:38Speaker 1: the language of health and care. Each individual act had
- 20:42Speaker 1: a surface explanation. Only the full record nineteen months of transfers,
- 20:48Speaker 1: seven months of handwritten documentation, one recovered laptop made the
- 20:53Speaker 1: design visible. Deborah Holton filed her complaint in twenty eighteen
- 20:57Speaker 1: without that record. It was dismist. She had told the truth,
- 21:02Speaker 1: there was nothing to show for it. The structural difference
- 21:05Speaker 1: between Deborah Houlton's outcome and Lisa Nelson's was a spiral
- 21:09Speaker 1: bound composition notebook kept in a desk drawer and moved
- 21:13Speaker 1: when Lisa feared her hiding places had been found. That
- 21:16Speaker 1: is the distance between a dismissed civil complaint and a
- 21:19Speaker 1: four year sentence. What remains after the sentence is the
- 21:23Speaker 1: question the law did not fully answer financial exploitation of
- 21:28Speaker 1: a vulnerable adult. Carrie's language about documented transfers probable harm,
- 21:34Speaker 1: traceable extraction, it does not carry language for the years
- 21:37Speaker 1: of systematic erosion that made the extraction possible. The conviction
- 21:42Speaker 1: addressed what could be measured. The note book described what
- 21:46Speaker 1: could not. Lisa Nelson kept it. There is something precise
- 21:50Speaker 1: in that choice. She did not discard the record of
- 21:53Speaker 1: the worst years of her life. She kept the evidence
- 21:56Speaker 1: of her own clarity, proof that even inside the erosion,
- 22:00Speaker 1: something in her had been watching, naming and waiting for
- 22:03Speaker 1: the right moment to be believed. The note Book was
- 22:05Speaker 1: the first time she said any of it out loud
- 22:08Speaker 1: and heard how it sounded. She kept it because it
- 22:11Speaker 1: still sounds true. This show is made by Obo Media.