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Mega Edition: The Virginia Roberts Deposition That Helped Expose Epstein And Maxwell (Part 13-15) (7/11/23) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
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In this episode, we're going to continue looking at the
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Virginia Roberts deposition, and we're going to pick up right
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where we left off in the last episode. Menager, where
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is the original photograph that has been widely circulated in
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the press of you with Prince Andrew? Virginia. I probably
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still have it, It's not in my possession right now. Manager.
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Where is it, Virginia? Probably in some storage boxes, Menager?
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Where Virginia in Sydney? Manager? Where in Sydney, Virginia? Redacted? Menager?
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And who lives in that house? Virginia. Well, it's owned
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by my mother in law and my father in law,
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but my nephews live in the house. Menager. What are
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their names? Virginia. I'm not giving you the names of
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my nephews. Menager. What's the address of the house, Virginia?
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Why would you want that? I want to know where
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the photograph is. I'm asking you where the photograph is,
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and you've just told me it's somewhere in redacted? Virginia. Yes, Manager,
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So wherein redacted is the photograph located? Virginia? If I
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can't one hundred percent say that the photograph is there.
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It could be at my house that I presently live in.
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I'm not going to give you the address of my
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nephew's residence. Manager. When is the last time you saw
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the photograph in person? Virginia when I packed and left America? Menager, Colorado, Virginia. Yes, Manager,
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all right, so you had that photograph with you here
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in Colorado, Virginia. Yes. Manager. What's on the back of
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the photograph, Virginia. I'm sorry, Manager. Is there something on
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the back of the photograph, Virginia. There's like a date
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it was printed, but no writing or anything. Manager. Okay,
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does it say where it was printed? Virginia. I don't believe,
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so I think it just I don't remember. I just
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remember there's a date on it. Menager. Whose camera was
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it taken with, Virginia, my little yellow Kodak camera. Menager.
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Who took the picture? Virginia, Jeffrey Epstein. Manager. And where
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did you have it developed, Virginia? I believe when I
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got back to America. Manager. So where, Virginia, I don't know, Menager,
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Palm Beach, Virginia. I don't know. Menager, what is the
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date the photograph was printed, Virginia, I believe it was
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March two thousand and one. Menager. Okay, Virginia, but that's
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just off of my photographic memory. I don't I could
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be different, but I think it's March two thousand and one. Menager.
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You have a photographic memory, Virginia. I'm not saying I
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have a photographic memory, but if i'd look at the
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back of the photo and I remember what it says,
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I believe it was March of two thousand and one.
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Did the photograph I ever leave your possession for a while, Virginia,
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I give it to the FBI, Menager, Okay. And when
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did you get it back, Virginia when they took copies
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of it? Manager? When was that Virginia twenty eleven? Manager,
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when they came to interview you, Virginia, yes, Menager, So
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from twenty and eleven until you left Colorado it was
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in your personal possession, Virginia, yes, Menager. What other documents
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related to this case are in that storage box in Australia,
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Mister Edwards objects to form here and then Virginia answers
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documents related to this case there. I don't know. I
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really can't tell you. I mean, there are seven boxes
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full of NERF guns, my kids, toys, photos. I don't
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know what other documents would be in there, Menager, did
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anyone search those documents after you received discovery requests from US?
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In this case Virginia, I haven't been able to obtain
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those boxes. I can't get them sent back up to me.
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It's going to cost me a large sum of money,
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and right now I'm trying to look after my family,
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so I'm not able to afford to get them up. Menager,
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you live in Australia, correct, Virginia, I do, Meninger, Okay,
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So how far away from the boxes from where you
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live in Australia, Virginia? Sydney is down here at the bottom.
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Karen's is up here at the top, Menainger, Okay, Virginia's
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probably a six day drive, Meninger. Did you fly here
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through Sydney, Virginia? No, Meninger, have you been to Sydney
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since you moved back to Australia Virginia. I flew into
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Sydney with my three kids, but it was a connecting
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flight to Brisbane. Men Did you ask your nephews or
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anyone else to search for those boxes in response to
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discovery your requests that we issued in this case, Virginia,
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there are my nephews. I would never let them look
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at those, Menager, other than your green spiral notebook. What
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else did you burn in this bonfa in twenty thirteen, Virginia.
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That was it, Manager, That was the only thing Virginia. Yes, Manager,
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did you use wood? Virginia? Yes, Manager, charcoal? Virginia. My
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husband built the bonfire out of wood, and I don't
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know what else you put in it. He's the one
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who makes the fires, not me. Manager. Who else was present, Virginia?
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Just him and me? Manager. Were your kids there? Virginia. No,
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they were inside sleeping. Manager. And what beach was this, Virginia.
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It wasn't a beach. It was my backyard. Manager. What's
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your address Virginia at the time? Manager, Yeah, Virginia redacted
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and redacted. Yes, Manager. Who are your neighbors, Virginia, sweet people?
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Ray and I could look on the phone if you want, Manager, No,
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thank you. Do they still live there, Virginia? Yes? Manager.
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Do you keep in touch with them? Virginia? The last
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time that I talked to them was a few months ago. Menainger,
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did they see the fire, Virginia. They have seen many
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fires that we've had. We've had lots of bonfires there. Menager.
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Did you ever ride in a helicopter with Glenn Maxwell
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acting as a pilot of the helicopter? Virginia? Yes, Menager?
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Who else was on the flight? Virginia. I've been on
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the helicopter with her plenty of times. I can't mention
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how many people were on there on the helicopter at
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the same time, Menager, How many times, Virginia. I don't know.
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Do you have a helicopter record that you could show me, Menager,
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I'm asking you how many times you were on the
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helicopter with Glene Maxwell acting as a pilot, Virginia. It's
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impossible for me to answer the question without having the
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actual physical records in front of me. I'm asking you
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to look into your memory and to tell me how
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many times that you recall being on a helicopter with
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Glen Maxwell at the pilot's seat. Virginia. There is no
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number I can give you. There's plenty of times that
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I've been on our helicopter, Menager. Where did you go
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from and two on a helicopter? Virginia? I believe it was.
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Don't quote me on this because I get confused. On
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the islands there, I want to say was Saint John's.
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It could have been Saint Bart's, Saint John's or Saint Bart's,
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and then we would fly straight to Jeffrey's Island. Menager? Okay,
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did you ever go anywhere else on the helicopter? Virginia,
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No Menager? Were you ever on the helicopter with redacted
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and Glainne Maxwell as the pilot of the helicopter? Virginia,
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No Menager? Were you ever on the helicopter with redacted
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and Glaine as the pilot? Virginia, No Menager? Do you
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recall telling Shannon Churcher that you were Virginia, No Menager?
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Did you see the press article in which Sharon Churchier
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reported that you were Brad Edwards objects to this, and
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he says, I'd just like to ask that if you're
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going to ask this witness about a specific card article,
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I'd like her to see the article. Otherwise she's not
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going to testify about it. If you have something to
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show her, then please. In typical fashion, Menainger just basically
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ignores Edwards here and ask the question again, do you
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recall seeing a press article in which Sharon Churcher reported
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that you were on a helicopter with redacted and Glene
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Maxwell as the pilot. Again, Edwards interjects, I'll let you
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answer the question once she's looking at the document that
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you're being asked about. Menager. You're not letting her answer
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a question about whether she recalls a particular press statement.
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Brad Edwards. I will let her answer every question about
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the press statement. As long as she sees the press statement.
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I'm okay with that. She can answer all of them. Menager. No,
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there is a rule of civil procedure that allows you
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to direct a witness not to answer a question when
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there's a claim of privilege. What privilege are you claiming
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to direct her not to answer this question? Brad Edwards?
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I thought you want it accurate answers from this witness
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if the menager cuts them off. If I asked her
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if she recalled something, Edwards again interjects, if the sole
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purpose is to just harass her. Menager again interrupts him.
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I asked her if she recalled something, Edwards, then that's
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just not going to be what's happening today. Menager. All right,
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so you're refusing to answer a question about whether you
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recall a particular statement, Edwards, She's gets cut off again, Menager.
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Is that true, Edwards? She is not refusing to answer
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any questions she Virginia. I'm not refusing to answer. I
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just want to see the article that you're talking about
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so I can be clear in my statement. Menager, Do
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you recall seeing a press article written by Sharon Churcher
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reporting that you flew on a helicopter with redacted Englaine
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Maxwell as the pilot? Virginia. No, I do not recall
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reading a press article saying that I was on a
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helicopter with redacted with Glaine as the pilot. Menager, Do
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you recall telling Shannon Churcher that you had conversations with
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redacted regarding him flying on a helicopter with Glene Maxwell, Virginia.
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I believe that it was taken out of context. Glaine
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told me that she flew redacted in and Glaine likes
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to talk a lot of stuff, and that sounds fantastical,
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and whether it's true or not, that is what I
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do recall telling Sharon Churcher, Menager, So you told Sharon
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Churcher that Gallaine Maxwell is the one who told you
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that she flew redacted in the helicopter, Virginia. I told
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Sharon Churcher that Glaine flew redacted onto the island, based
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upon what Glaine had told me, Menager, not based upon
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what redacted had told you. Correct, Virginia, Correct, Menager. Did
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you ever ask Sharon Churcher to correct anything that was
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printed under her name? Concerning your stories to Sharon Churcher, Virginia.
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I wasn't given those stories to read before before they
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were printed. Manager. After they were printed, did you read them, Virginia.
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I tried to stay away from them. They were very hard.
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You have to understand it was a very hard time
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for me and my husband to have this public We
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didn't think it was going to be this publicity announced
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and that big, so we turned off the news and
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we stopped reading so many things. Menager. You didn't read
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the articles about your stories to Sharon Churcher, Virginia interrupts her.
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I've read some articles, Menager, let me just finish. You
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did not read the articles published by Sharon Churcher about
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your stories to Sharon Churcher, Virginia. I have read articles
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about what Sharon Church wrote, and a lot of the
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stuff that she writes. She takes things from my own
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mouth and changes them into her own words, as journalists do.
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And I never came back to her and told her
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to correct anything. What was done was done. There was
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nothing else I can do. Manager, So even if she
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printed something that was untrue, you didn't ask her to
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correct it. Correct, Virginia. There was things that she printed
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that really pissed me off, but there was nothing I
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could do about it. It's already out there, Menager, she
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printed things that were untrue. Correct Brad Edwards objects to
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form and he says, it's a mischaracterization, Virginia. I wouldn't
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say they were untrue. I would just say that she
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printed them as journalists take your words and turn them
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into something else. Manager, she got it wrong, Edwards again,
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Objects to form here then, Virginia. In some ways, yes, Manager,
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did she print things in her articles? You did not
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say to her? Brad Edwards again's objects and he asks
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that the witness be given the opportunity to see the
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document so that she can review it and answer the
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question accurately. Otherwise she's unable to answer the question. I'm
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not going to allow her to answer, Manager. You know,
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the civil rules tell you not to suggest answers to
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your client. Manager, and you understand your lawyer is now
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directing you to not all of a sudden remember what
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you'r ana is. That's what he's suggesting that you say.
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So you're not supposed to listen to him suggest that
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to you. You're supposed to tell me from your memory.
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Brad Edwards, that is not what I'm he tries to interject.
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But manager again interjects, did you? Then Edwards write back
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at her, That's not what I'm doing. You don't just
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get to talk over me and tell my client when
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not to listen to me. All you have to do
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to get answer is show or the document you're talking about,
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and I'll let her answer every question. I don't know
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why we're so scared of the actual documents. Manager, I
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don't know why you're so scared of your client's recollection,
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mister Edwards. But anyway, Edwards, why would you do this
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to her? Manager? Did Sharon Churcher print things that you
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did not say? Brad Edwards Again, I'm going to instruct
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my client not to answer unless you give her what
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it is that you're talking about that was printed, And
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she will tell you the answer, the accurate answer to
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your question, just without the document to refresher recollection and
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see it. She is not going to answer the question. Manager,
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Did Sharon Churcher print things that you did not say?
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Brad Edwards, same objection, same instruction, not to answer. I
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think I've made a very clearer record as to why
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i want my client to answer all of these questions.
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But I want her to have a fair opportunity to
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see this document. Menager, did Sharon Churcher print things that
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you felt were inaccurate? Edwards? Again, same objection, same instruction.
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If she sees the document, she's going to answer every
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one of these questions. Manager, Did any other reporter print
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statements that you believe are inaccurate? Edwards, same objection, same instruction. Manager,
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did any reporter print statements about Glenn Maxwell that were inaccurate? Edwards,
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Same objection, same instruction. This is harassing, This is harassing
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a sexual abuse victim. And all I'm asking is for
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fairness that we just let her see the document so
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we can answer this. Menager. Mister Edwards, please stop saying
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anything other than in an objection what the basis is
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or instructing your client not to answer, mister Edwards, I
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will do that, Menager. That's what the federal rules of
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civil procedure provide, Edwards, I hear you. They also provide
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for fairness and civility. And all I'm asking, very calmly,
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is for her to see this. Manager, Mister Edwards, this
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is not your deposition. I'm asking your client what she remembers.
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If she doesn't want to talk about what she remembers,
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then let her not answer. But you cannot instruct her
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not to answer unless there is a privilege. What privilege,
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mister Edwards, I am instructing her not to answer, Menager,
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all right, you were refusing to answer questions about whether
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statements to the press about Glen Maxwell attributed to you
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were inaccurate, mister Edwards. She's not refusing not to answer, Virginia,
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you are refusing to show me the document so I
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could answer properly. I would give you an answer if
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you would show me some documents. Manager. You can't say
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without looking at a document whether the press attributed to
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you is accurate or inaccurate. Virginia, please show me the document. Manager.
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You can't say from the top of your head whether
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any inaccurate statement has been attributed to you in the press. Virginia.
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Please show me the document and I will tell you. Manager.
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Are you refusing to answer my questions about your knowledge
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of whether inaccurate statements have been attributed to you and
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the press? Virginia? Are you refusing to give me the
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documents to look at? Manager? Are you refusing to answer
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the question, Virginia. I'm refusing to answer the question based
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upon the fact that you're not being fair enough to
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let me see the document in order to give you
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an honest answer, Manager, Miss Roberts, Virginia. Yes, Manager, we
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are talking about press that has been published on the internet, correct, Virginia. Yes. Manager.
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Do you have access to the internet, Virginia. Yeah. Yes, Menager,
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have you looked on the internet and read articles that
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attributed statements to you about Gleainne Maxwell? Virginia? Yes. Manager.
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Do you know any statements that has been attributed to
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you in a press article on the internet about Gallaine
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Maxwell that is untrue? Brad Edwards, same objection and same instruction, Virginia.
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Please show me a specific document, Menager, do you know
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of any such statements about Glene Maxwell attributed to you
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by the press that is inaccurate, Virginia. If you could
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please show me a specific document, Menager. Tell me what
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Sharon Churcher asked you to write for Virginia any knowledge
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that I had about my time with redacted? Menager? And
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did you write it Virginia, Yes, Menager. What did you
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write it on Virginia paper? Menager? What kind of paper Virginia,
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line paper? Menager? Was it in a book or single sheets?
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Single sheets? Manager? And did you write a long document
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or a short document? What was it, Virginia. I can't
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recall how long the document was, but I would say
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it would be a few pages, Menager. And other than
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asking you to write whatever you remember about redacted, did
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she give you any other directions about what you should write? Virginia.
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She was interested in two things, really, how Epstein got
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away with so many counts of child trafficking for sex
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and how redacted was involved in it. Those were her
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two main inquiries. Manager. What did she ask you to write, Virginia.
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She asked me to write about redacted? Manager. Did she
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tell you to put it in your own handwriting, Virginia? No,
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she just asked me to write down what I can remember. Manager.
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Did you give her everything that you wrote, Virginia. Did
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I give her the whole entire pages that I wrote? Menager? Yes, Virginia, Yeah,
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I wrote pages for specifically Menager in your own handwriting,
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Virginia in my own handwriting, Manager, And what you wrote
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was's true? Virginia? Yes? Manager. And did you get paid
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for those pieces of paper? Virginia? Not for the papers,
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I don't believe, Menager. Okay, have you gotten paid when
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they've been reprinted? Virginia no, Menager. Have you negotiated any
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deal with Radar Online, Virginia, no, Menager. Have you negotiated
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any deal with Sharon Churchier for the purpose of publishing
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those pieces of paper? Virginia, No, Menager. When did you
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write those pieces of paper, Brad Edwards Objects to this
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objective form? Virginia a week before she came out, Manager.
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And when did you give them to her, Virginia when
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she came out? Menager? When was that, Virginia sometime? I
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believe in early twenty eleven. Menager, What did you get
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paid for, if not those pieces of paper? Edwards again,
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objects to form? Virginia? I was paid for the picture
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with redacted with his arm around me, glaying in the background,
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and I was paid for the I guess print of
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the story. Manager, anything else, Virginia, No, All right. We're
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gonna wrap up right here, and in the next episode
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we'll pick up where we left off. All of the
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information that goes with this episode can be found in
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the description box. What's up, everyone, and welcome back to
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the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're gonna pick up
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where we left off with the Virginia Roberts deposition. So
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let's get right back to it, shall we. Manager, anything else, Virginia, No, Manager,
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You were not paid for those pieces of paper, Virginia,
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no Menager, all right? And how many pieces of paper
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did you write, Virginia? Like I said, I'm rounding it
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around three, Manager, three pieces of paper, Virginia. That's what
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I don't remember. To be exact on a number, I'm sorry,
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but over three pages. Manager. And you wrote those sometime
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in twenty eleven, Virginia the week that she was coming
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out to see me. Manager, and you gave them to her, right, Virginia,
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I gave them to her. Manager. Did you keep a
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copy of that, Virginia, No, Manager. Did you rip them
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out and make them look like they came out of
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a journal, Virginia, No, Manager, were you directed to make
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them look like they came out of a journal, Virginia, No, Manager,
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Do you know why your lawyer would have told the
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federal judge in New York that that's what you did?
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Edwards to this subjects to form, Virginia a lawyer in
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New York. Manager, Yeah, Virginia, rip them out of a journal.
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Manager said that you had. Do you know why she
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would have said that, Virginia. Maybe she thought I did, Manager,
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But you didn't, Virginia. They were just pieces of paper
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written for Sharon Churcher's purpose, manager, and not directed to
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look like they came from a journal. Virginia. Nobody told
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me to make them look like they came from a journal.
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There were just pieces of paper that I wrote down
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for Sharon Churchier. Manager. Did Glenn Maxwell tell redacted that
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you were sixteen years old? Virginia? No? I think I
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think they had played the guessing game and I was
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seventeen menager, and so Glenn Maxwell did not tell redacted
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that you were only sixteen. Edwards once again objects to
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the form speculation. Manager in your presence, Virginia, I don't
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remember the exact conversation. I just remember they liked to
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play the guessing game a lot, Menager. And so you
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don't recall Glenn Maxwell telling redacted in your presence that
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you were quote only really only sixteen, right, Virginia correct.
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I don't remember that, Menager, and if that were in
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the paper, that would be untrue. Correct, Virginia correct. Manager.
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I think now might be a good time for a break, Virginia,
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thank you, mister Edwards. Okay, sounds good, videographer. We're off
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the record at two forty five. We'll be back at
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two fifty five. They get back at two fifty five,
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and manager goes right back in to asking questions. Do
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you have any photographs of yourself, either nude or in
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a sexually compromising position, that you claim were taken by
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Gleane Maxwell? Virginia. I do not have any of those
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in my evidence, but if you ask Glane Maxwell, she
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would have plenty. Menager. Do you have any in your
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storage boxes in Sydney, Virginia, No, Menager. Do you know
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whether your attorneys have any such photographs that you claim
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were taken by Gallane Maxwell? Virginia, No, Menager, you don't know,
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or they don't have them. Virginia. I don't know, and
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I don't think they have them. If they have them,
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they would have told me. You should ask your client.
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She's got plenty of them. Manager. What type of camera
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did Glean Maxwell use? Virginia. It was a black camera
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and it had oh I don't know the types of
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names on it, but the lens that goes out, Menager.
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Was it digital or a single reflex? Virginia. Again, I
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don't know types of cameras. I mean, I use my
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phone for using a camera. So it's a black camera,
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and it had a lens that you could put out
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further or bring it back. Menager. Did you ask her
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to take any photographs of you? Virginia. No, she asked
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to take photographs of me. Menager. Was it a film
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or a digital camera? Virginia. I never saw how she
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printed them out? Menager, what's the first time you told
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anybody that you had been sexually trafficked? And once again
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Brad Edwards interjects that he objects to the form of
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the question. Virginia. Tony Figueroa, my ex boyfriend knew some
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of the stuff that was happening to me, though I
24:52
did not go into great detail with him, being that
24:55
he is my boyfriend. And then the first person I
24:58
really opened up to about everything was my husband. Manager.
25:02
Did you tell Tony Figueroa that you were forced to
25:05
have sex with Jeffrey Epstein Virginia? Yes? Manager. Did you
25:10
tell Tony Figueroa that you were forced to have sex
25:13
with Glenn Maxwell? Virginia? Yes? Manager. Did you tell redacted
25:19
that Glenn Maxwell sent you to have sex with famous people? Virginia? Yes? Manager.
25:25
When did you tell redacted that Virginia during conversations like
25:29
I'd call him from places that I was at and
25:32
just talk to him, and like I said, I wouldn't
25:35
get into great detail about things, but you know, I
25:38
had to be with this person or that person today
25:41
and menager interrupts her. Did you tell redacted not to
25:45
call the police? Virginia? No. Redacted enjoyed his lifestyle with me,
25:50
so he wouldn't have gone to the police. Manager. Did
25:53
you tell redacted that you were sexually trafficked Virginia? You know,
25:57
I don't know what I told her Redacted at the time.
26:00
I know he asked me, and I think I told him,
26:02
but I didn't get into detail with him. Manager, What
26:05
do you think you told him, Virginia that I was
26:08
just massaging these people? Manager? Did you tell them that
26:12
you're what you were doing with Jeffrey Epstein Virginia? Yes? Manager.
26:18
Did you tell redacted what you were doing with Glenn Maxwell? Virginia? Yes? Manager.
26:25
Did you tell him what you were doing with other people? Virginia?
26:28
I don't think I told him about many other people. No, Manager,
26:32
What people did you tell him about? Virginia mainly Gallaine
26:36
and Jeffrey? Manager? When did you tell him about that
26:40
Virginia from the start? Manager? When was the start that
26:44
you told him Virginia from I wouldn't say the first meeting,
26:48
but I told him around that time. Manager. And what
26:51
did REDACTA tell you to do? Virginia? He didn't mind
26:56
what I had to do. Again, he was another guy
26:58
that used me because I made lots of money and
27:01
he didn't tell me to do anything. Now, just to
27:04
interject here, imagine your girl comes home and tells you this.
27:08
First of all, forget the police. If my girl shows
27:11
up and tells me this at eight, I'm on Epstein's
27:14
porch at nine talking about bitch, this porch is mine.
27:19
I mean, are you for real right now, there's way
27:22
too many scummy dudes out there that will just ride
27:25
on the cotels of a woman who is being trafficked
27:28
or selling her body, whatever it might be, as opposed
27:32
to just going out and you know, getting a job. Menager.
27:35
Did he tell you not to tell the police? Virginia, No,
27:38
he didn't tell me not to do anything. Manager. Did
27:41
he tell you to tell the police, Virginia, No, he
27:45
did not tell me to do anything. Did he tell
27:48
you to tell the police? Menager? Ass again, Virginia, Again,
27:52
he told me not. He didn't tell me to do anything, Menager.
27:57
When did you tell your parents you were sexually trafficked
28:00
by Jeffrey Epstein, Virginia after I had my kids, Manager,
28:06
after you had all three children, or after you had
28:08
your first child? Virginia. I think after I had all
28:12
three of my children. Manager. What was the last year
28:15
in which you had a child, Virginia twenty ten. Manager,
28:19
So you believe you told your parents sometime after twenty
28:22
ten that you had been sexually trafficked Virginia. Yes, Manager,
28:27
you didn't tell your parents that you had a lawsuit
28:30
entitled Jane Doe two versus Jeffrey Epstein, in two thousand
28:33
and nine, Virginia, I wasn't very close with my parents. Manager.
28:38
Why not, Virginia, we just had a hard relationship. Manager,
28:43
Why Virginia, because we did. I don't know why. Some
28:46
people just don't get along. Manager. Do you get along
28:51
with your parents now, Virginia. I get along with my
28:54
parents now, yes. Manager. Okay, have you ever told anyone
28:58
that you were a sex slave for four years? Virginia
29:02
under the assumption that I got my dates wrong? Yes,
29:04
I probably have, Manager, And that's not true, correct, Virginia,
29:10
Not because I didn't mean it to be true, just
29:12
because I didn't know my dates. Menager, So four years
29:16
is not two years? Correct Edwards objects the form and
29:21
then Virginia answers, four years is not two years. Manager.
29:25
What did your parents say when you told them that
29:28
you would have been sexually trafficked by Jeffrey Epstein and
29:31
Glenn Maxwell. Virginia. I believe they were disgusted. Manager. What
29:37
did they tell you to do or not to do? Virginia.
29:40
I don't remember the exact conversations that we had, but
29:43
they weren't happy. Manager. Were they both on the phone
29:47
at the same time, Virginia? No, Manager, who was on
29:51
the phone first. Edwards objects to the form of that before.
29:55
Virginia answers, I don't know, Manager, you were in Australia
30:00
at the time, correct, Virginia, Yes, Manager, they were not Virginia. Yes. Manager.
30:06
Have they ever been to see you in Australia, Virginia,
30:09
my dad has. Manager. Has your mom ever been to
30:13
see you in Australia? Virginia No, my mom is afraid
30:17
of flying. Manager. When did your dad come to see
30:20
you in Australia, Virginia the birth of my son, my
30:24
first one, in two thousand and six, and then I
30:26
believe in twenty ten when my daughter was born. Manager.
30:30
And did you have this conversation with your dad about
30:33
this in person or on the phone? Virginia. I've had
30:36
conversations with them about it since. Manager. I'm talking about
30:40
the first time you had a conversation with your dad,
30:44
Virginia on the phone. Manager. What caused you to tell
30:47
them in twenty ten, Virginia, I was just starting to
30:51
accept what I had been through, I think for ten
30:56
however long many years. I mean over ten years. I
31:00
had to try to start a new life, become a
31:02
new person, and I wanted to put all that stuff
31:04
behind me and not think about it. But after you
31:07
have children, something changes in you and you just want
31:10
to stand up and do the right thing and protect
31:13
any other children from having to go through this. Manager.
31:16
Did you tell your parents how much money you received
31:19
from your settlement with Jeffrey Epstein? Virginia. No, this is
31:24
I think there's like a non disclosure statement. I don't
31:27
know exactly what the legal term is. But manager, did
31:31
you send any money to your parents? Virginia? No, I
31:34
don't know. No, I've never sent money to my parents.
31:38
Manager who is redacted Virginia one of redacted shady friends? Manager.
31:44
Did you talk to redacted about your involvement with Jeffrey
31:48
Epstein Virginia? No. Manager. Did you ever live with redacted Virginia? No.
31:54
He used to come over to my house. Manager between
31:56
two thousand and two thousand and two. Did you ever
31:59
have any interactions with law enforcement? Virginia? Yes. Menager when Virginia.
32:07
When I tried to break away from Jeffrey and Glane,
32:09
I started making myself unavailable and I got a job
32:13
at roadhouse. Grill and Tony used to come to pick
32:15
me up in the afternoons at nighttime and he'd sit
32:18
at the bar and there's this big cup that's got
32:21
tips in it. I was in the back room. I
32:24
had to first, you know, sign out, and you have
32:26
to take off your apron, put it your apron away,
32:28
and there's a whole bunch for the cleaning staff to do.
32:32
In that time period, Tony grabbed money from a cup
32:35
that had money in it that was for the bartenders
32:38
for their tips. My boss called me the next day.
32:40
He told me that I had stolen the money, which
32:43
I hadn't. And I came back and I returned the money.
32:46
After I confronted Tony about it, gave the money back
32:49
to him, and he said, I'm sorry, but it's just
32:52
law that I have to call the police. So he
32:55
called the police, and knowing that Jeffrey has got Palm
32:58
Beach Police Department in his pocket, I went to Jeffrey
33:01
Epstein and I told them what happened, and Jeffrey said,
33:04
don't worry about it. Let me take care of it
33:06
for you. Manager. Okay, I'm sorry. When did you have
33:10
interaction with law enforcement then, Virginia? What year, manager, did
33:15
you speak with law enforcement officers Virginia? I don't believe
33:19
I spoke with them. Jeffrey handled everything. Manager, Okay, And
33:23
you said that you had finished your shift at this
33:25
is at the roadhouse grill. Correct, Virginia. Correct, Manager, you
33:30
had finished your shift, Virginia. Yeah, it was the end
33:33
of the shift, Manager, okay, and you had cleaned up
33:36
and we're checking out, correct, Virginia. Yeah. It's a completely
33:40
separate part of the It's like the back of the house.
33:43
Do you know what that means in waitering terms, Manager
33:47
indicating Virginia, Yeah, the back of the house. Manager. And
33:51
what was who was this boss that you spoke to, Virginia.
33:55
I can't remember his name? Manager, Okay, Virginia, but I
33:59
mean he was very nice. He didn't want to, but
34:02
he just had to because it's just the law. You know.
34:05
The money was returned to him, but he still had
34:07
to do what he had to do. Manager. You paid
34:10
him back the money the next day, Virginia, the very
34:13
next day. Manager. And did you ever speak to the
34:16
Palm Beach County Sheriff's office about it? Virginia? You know,
34:19
I don't know if they called me or not, but
34:21
I know that since my boss told me he had
34:23
to call the police, I went to Jeffrey and Jeffrey
34:26
said he'd handle it. Manager. How old were you at
34:30
the time, Virginia. I don't know, eighteen, maybe nineteen. Manager,
34:34
You weren't a juvenile, were you? Virginia? Well, juvenile being
34:38
under eighteen? No? Manager, Is that the only interaction with
34:42
law enforcement that you had between two thousand and two
34:45
thousand and two? Virginia? Correct? Manager? Were you in fact
34:49
charge with theft based on that case? Virginia? No charges
34:53
wherever brought against me? Manager. Do you know if they
34:56
were filed Virginia. No. Jeffrey told me he he handled it,
35:00
and I never heard anything about it ever. Again, Manager,
35:04
did you ever check to see if you had a
35:06
warrant out Virginia? No. Jeffrey told me he took care
35:09
of it. Manager. Do you think it's a problem to
35:12
leave the country when you have an outstanding warrant? Brad
35:15
Edwards objects to the form foundation lack of predicate Virginia.
35:20
I don't think that I have an outstanding warrant. Why
35:22
would I? Do you have a document that says I
35:25
have an outstanding warrant? Manager, I'm just asking if you
35:29
believe it's a bad thing to leave the country when
35:31
you have an outstanding warrant. Virginia, Absolutely, Manager, and you
35:36
would never assist someone in doing that. Correct, Virginia, Correct, Manager,
35:41
during the year twenty fifteen, have you spoken to law
35:44
enforcement about any other topic other than Glean Maxwell, Virginia
35:49
in twenty fifteen, Manager, Uh huh, Virginia, did I talk
35:53
to law enforcement about Glenn Maxwell, Manager about anything other
35:58
than Golan Maxwell. Edwards once again objects, and I would
36:02
just object at this point in time and instruct the
36:05
witness not to convey any answers as to who she
36:08
has or who she has not disclosed until such time
36:11
as the court rules on the current outstanding motion. I
36:15
know that we have some obligations to fulfill by the
36:18
fourth we intend to do that, and I also recognize
36:21
we may be back to answer some of these questions,
36:23
but for today, she's not going to answer those questions. Menager. Well,
36:28
I'm just going to ask them, and Edwards, I understand, Menager.
36:32
Have you spoken to any law enforcement in Colorado since
36:35
the beginning of January of twenty fifteen, Virginia. I can't
36:40
answer that question right now, Edwards, Hold on a second,
36:44
I may be able to get you an answer. To
36:46
that question, Can I take Can I just take a
36:48
quick break, and I think I can answer that particular
36:51
question for you. Manager, I'm not asking you to answer
36:54
any questions. Edward's fine, Manager, mister Edwards, Brad D Wward word,
37:00
it's fine, Manager. I appreciate it. But I'm asking the
37:03
witness to answer these questions. Edwards. I know, I'm just
37:06
trying to help you out today. Edwards, then speaking to
37:09
Virginia for today, don't answer the questions. Manager. So have
37:14
you spoken to any law enforcement officers in Colorado since
37:17
January of twenty fifteen until today? Virginia. I'm not answering
37:22
that question. Manager. Have your attorneys spoken to any law
37:26
enforcement officers in Colorado since the beginning of twenty fifteen
37:30
until today? Virginia. I'm not answering that question. Manager. Have
37:34
you been living with your husband in Australia since October
37:37
of twenty fifteen, Virginia. Yes, all right. So we're gonna
37:42
wrap up right there, and in the next episode we'll
37:44
pick up where we left off. All of the information
37:48
that goes with this episode can be found in the
37:51
description box. What's up everyone, and welcome back to the
37:54
Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're gonna dive right back
37:58
in to that Virginia Robert's deposition and pick up where
38:03
we left off. Have you been living with your husband
38:07
in Australia since October of twenty fifteen, Menager asked, Virginia. Yes. Now,
38:14
the next page here is all redacted, the whole entire
38:17
page two forty six redacted. Menager then asked, has he
38:21
paid his fines? Virginia, Yes, as far as I know,
38:25
So whoever they were talking about in the redacted section,
38:28
that's who they're talking about here. As far as paying
38:31
their fines, Menager, describe for me the contract you had
38:35
with the Mail on Sunday, Virginia. Could you be a
38:38
little bit more specific, like, Menager? Have you had more
38:41
than one contract with the Mail on Sunday Virginia? Well,
38:45
there was one contract for the picture, and that was
38:47
to pay me one hundred and forty thousand dollars for
38:50
the picture, and then two stories were printed after that
38:53
for the amount of ten thousand each. Manager. Is that
38:56
the only money you received from the Mail on Sunday, Virginia? Correct? Menager?
39:01
Did you receive any money for syndication of the photograph Virginia.
39:06
Isn't that what the one forty was for? Menager? I'm
39:09
asking you, Virginia, Well, I don't really know what syndication means. Manager.
39:15
Did you have a written contract with the mail on Sunday? Virginia? Yes? Manager.
39:20
Where is that contract right now? Virginia, I don't know.
39:24
I've moved that many times. I lose paperwork wherever I go. Menager.
39:29
Is it possible it's in the boxes in Sydney, Virginia,
39:32
I don't think that I kept it, to be honest, Menager.
39:35
Did you ever refer back to it after you signed it? Virginia?
39:39
I know I kept it for a short while, but
39:41
I mean, like I said, I've moved countries twice in
39:44
the last two years and three different houses, so the
39:47
paper trail is lost. I don't know where it would be. Manager.
39:51
Did you receive it via email? Virginia? No, I received
39:55
it Sharon Churcher handed it to me. Manager. Did you
39:58
sign it, Virginia? I signed it, Manager, And then did
40:02
you make copies of it? Virginia? No. Manager, you never
40:06
had a copy of it, Virginia. Well, I had my
40:08
own copy. I'm sure she has hers. Manager. Do you
40:12
recall if there was a period of exclusivity Virginia, Yes, Manager.
40:17
What was that period, Virginia, I believe it was like
40:20
a three month period or something like that. Manager, Okay,
40:24
And what other terms of the contract do you recall, Virginia.
40:28
I couldn't talk to any other news publication about the story, Manager,
40:32
anything else, Virginia, not that I know of. Manager. Were
40:36
you happy when the period was up? Virginia, Well, I
40:40
mean at that time, I wanted to write about my story,
40:42
so I guess yes, I was happy when the period
40:45
was up. Manager. And you were actively writing a book
40:49
at that time, correct, Virginia, my manuscript, I've never published it, Manager,
40:55
You were writing the manuscript at the time of your
40:57
period of exclusivity with Sharon Church. Sure, correct, Virginia. Those
41:02
three months were just craziness. I think I started after that. Manager.
41:06
You think you started writing the book after the ninety
41:09
days were up, Virginia, Yeah, Manager, And then you attempted
41:13
to sell that manuscript, correct, Virginia. I didn't attempt to
41:17
sell it. I went to other publications. Like what do
41:19
you call them? People? I'm trying to think of the
41:21
name of the word. People who published books, not like
41:24
a newspaper or anything, and I inquired about what they
41:27
thought of my manuscript and if they thought it was,
41:30
you know, a good story, and yeah, Manager, So you
41:33
sent the manuscript to these people for the purpose of
41:36
trying to publish the book, correct Virginia, Yes, some people, Manager,
41:41
and you were trying to get money from the book publication.
41:44
Correct Virginia. Well, I wasn't going to sell it to
41:47
them for free, Manager, But you were unsuccessful in finding
41:51
someone to publish it. Correct Virginia. Well, I was always
41:54
on the fence with it. I wasn't too sure if
41:57
I wanted to do it or not. I was more
42:00
or seeking judgment based upon these people who have done
42:02
this plenty and plenty of times still to this day.
42:06
I mean, I've had people who have been interested in it,
42:09
and I still don't know if I want to do
42:11
it yet. I mean, I think there's a lot more
42:14
that can go into it. You know, Manager, you were
42:17
actively sending the manuscript to people for purposes of having
42:20
them reach a deal with you to publish it. Correct Virginia, No,
42:25
a deal was never talked about. What we talked about
42:28
was the possibility of publishing it. It was publishing worthy
42:33
would I need to get a ghostwriter. You know, this
42:35
is the first time I've ever written a manuscript, so
42:38
I didn't know what I was doing. Manager, Okay, you
42:41
contacted Jared Weisfeld. Correct. Virginia, Correct, Menager, I'm going to
42:47
mark a document as defendants Exhibit sixteen. It is a
42:50
composite exhibit Exhibit sixteen marked Edwards. Thank you. Manager. I'm
42:57
not going to ask you to read every single page
42:59
of this, but if you look at the first page, Virginia,
43:02
uh huh, Manager, can you tell what this is in
43:06
terms of what type of document? Virginia, It's an email
43:09
from me to Jared. Manager, okay, and there's also emails
43:13
from Jared to you on the same page. Correct, Virginia, yes, Manager.
43:19
And can you tell I just presume that you know
43:21
that you have turned over documents in this case? Is
43:24
that true? Virginia? Yes? Manager, All right. Do you see
43:28
at the bottom it's got your name and some page
43:31
numbers in the bottom right hand corner. Yes, zero, zero, three, five, two, nine, Manager, right, Virginia, yes, Manager.
43:40
So you understood that your lawyers sought from you emails
43:44
for example, Virginia, yes, manager, and search your computer? Correct? Virginia, correct,
43:50
manager and printed out emails correct Virginia, yes, Manager, and
43:56
these look like some of the emails Virginia, yes, Manager. Okay.
44:00
Do you have any reason to believe that the email
44:03
is produced by your lawyers with your name on the
44:05
email address line or anything other than your email? Virginia, No,
44:11
they're my emails, Menager. Okay. Did anyone else use your
44:14
email account? Virginia, No, Menager, Okay, Virginia, I mean, well,
44:19
my husband uses it sometimes, my kids use it for games. Manager. Okay, Virginia,
44:25
but that's it. Manager. So if an email is signed
44:29
XOXO Jenna, Virginia, yes, manager, is that you Virginia correct? Manager?
44:36
All right? And do you believe anyone else in your
44:38
family was communicating with redacted? Virginia No, no one else
44:43
was manager? All right. What was the purpose of you
44:46
communicating with Jared Virginia. We were trying to figure out
44:50
if my book was my manuscript was ever published or
44:54
publish a bull And this was at the time that
44:57
there was a lot of controversy about what's going on
45:00
around Jaye. And when I say Jaye, I mean Jeffrey Epstein.
45:04
It was a very scary thing for a lot of
45:06
publishers to even consider taking it on, because Jeffrey is
45:10
a very powerful person. Manager, Did you ever send the
45:13
manuscript to Jared? Virginia, I believe I did, Menager, all right?
45:18
Did you ask Jared to send it on to other
45:20
people like Redacted? To this? Brad Edwards objects to form.
45:24
Then Virginia responds, I can't. I can't recall. I believe
45:28
I met redacted through Jared Menager. Okay, I'm going to
45:33
ask you to turn two. Well on the first page,
45:36
the second email says, is Epstein too big for redacted?
45:40
Does that refresh your recollection that Jared and redacted had
45:44
something to do with one another? Virginia, yes, Menager, okay.
45:48
And on the second page, in the middle of the page,
45:51
Just to be clear, is that an indication that redacted
45:54
definitely does not want the book? XO XO Jenna. Is
45:58
that what you wrote? Virginia, Yes, Manager, And these first
46:02
emails are in two thousand July of twenty twelve. Correct, Virginia,
46:07
yes again. Edwards objects on the apparent mischaracterization Manager of
46:13
twenty twelve, Edwards being the first emails, Manager, I only
46:18
meant the first pages of this composite exhibit. Edward's okay, Manager,
46:23
but I appreciate your clarification. Edward's okay. Manager. The first
46:28
email of this composite exhibit are dated July of twenty twelve. Correct, Virginia, Correct,
46:35
and again an interjection from Bradley Edwards the first page
46:39
as opposed to the first in the chronological timeline. Manager, Yes,
46:43
Edwards responds, okay, manager. If you flip sort of anywhere
46:48
towards the back, can you also see that there are
46:51
emails between yourself and Jared in twenty eleven? Virginia, excuse me?
46:57
And which page? Manager? Really? You can take your pick
47:00
anywhere from the back of that exhibit. Virginia, Yeah, yeah,
47:04
I see what you're talking about. Manager. Here, why don't
47:07
I direct you to the bottom right is your email? Now,
47:11
it's going to be a little tricky to find, but
47:13
it's about eight pages, I'm sorry, six pages from the
47:16
back of the composite exhibit. Virginia, Yes, manager, Do you
47:21
see on that page an email from yourself to Jared
47:24
from June of seventh of twenty eleven. Virginia, yes, manager,
47:29
And in that email you right, Dear Jared Weisfeld, we
47:33
spoke on the phone going back a couple months regarding
47:35
the story I am writing called The Billionaires Playboy Club. Right, Virginia, Yes, Manager.
47:42
I am no longer under any contract and would like
47:45
to ask you to review my synopsis, and if you
47:47
were interested, I would love for you to represent me
47:50
as my literary agent. Correct Virginia, Correct manager. I've included
47:56
some of the press that has covered ongoing cases of
47:59
Jeffrey Epstein, the world's richest pedophile, and my good friend
48:02
and journalist Sharon Churcher has a few from her articles
48:06
that she has written to send you as well. Correct Virginia,
48:09
Correct menager. I am very serious about getting my book
48:13
published and believe this story will cover many genres of interest,
48:17
not only by those following the lengthy case, but it
48:20
is also a woman's story of glitz, glamour, sorrow, compassion,
48:24
and true love. I hope you enjoy. Correct Virginia, Correct manager,
48:30
signed yourself, Virginia, Yes Manager. Soon about June, you sent
48:35
to Jared Weisfeld a synopsis and we're asking him to
48:38
represent you as your literary agent to sell the book.
48:41
Correct Virginia, Yes manager. And you characterize Sharon Churcher as
48:46
your good friend, correct, Virginia, Well, at the time, you
48:50
have to understand, Jared and Sharon are very close. Sharon
48:54
is the one who introduced me to Jared, and that's
48:57
just being nice. Menager, do you disagree that Sharon Churcher
49:01
was your good friend at the time, Virginia, Well, at
49:04
that time I did trust her a lot more than
49:06
what I do now. Manager, Why did you change your
49:10
opinion of Sharon Churcher, Virginia? You know, I just I
49:14
think I think talking to some journalists can be very dangerous,
49:17
especially sometimes how words can get taken out of context.
49:21
And I'm not saying that she's a bad person. I'm
49:24
just saying that's just I wouldn't call her up and
49:26
ask her what she's cooking for dinner tonight or how
49:29
her family is doing. Manager. Did you ever introduce her
49:33
to your hairstylist, Virginia, No, Manager, all right, Virginia, Oh,
49:37
actually yes I did. She did get a haircut where
49:40
I was at Virginia. All right, Manager, So if I
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could have the emails with Paulo Silva, please, I'm going
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to mark these defend an exhibit eighteen seventeen. Oh, I
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don't know if that's if that's just one all right,
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Edwards interjects, what are we on now? Seventeen Manager, seventeen Manager?
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Very similarly, can you take a look at this exhibit.
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It is a composite of documents produced by your attorneys
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with various baits, ranges, bates numbers in between twenty seven
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fifty and thirty nine twenty eight. Virginia, twenty seven fifty
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and Manager. I think I think the last page is
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thirty nine to twenty seven, but it does not contain
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all of I'm sorry, thirty nine twenty eight, but it
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does not contain all of the pages in between. Just
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to let you know, Virginia, okay, is there one specific
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that you want me to look at? Menager? No, if
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you can just take a look at the first page, Virginia, okay, Manager,
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and tell me if you know who this person is. Virginia.
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Paulo Silva is somebody who works for the Mail on Sunday,
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and he was the one in charge of paying me. Manager,
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paying you for what, Virginia, the one hundred and forty
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plus the ten and the ten? Manager? Okay? And did
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he also pay you on the ongoing basis or further
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sales of the photograph of yourself and redacted. Virginia. No,
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it was a set fee of one hundred and forty
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plus the ten and the ten, but they broke it
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up for some reason, so you can see here. Thanks
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for transferring the money. I will let you know when
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it reaches my bank account. But just a little confused,
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as I have a previous email with the amount ode
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at forty one hundred. Is there still an outstanding amount
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yet to be paid? So they broke it up into
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quite a lot of different fractions, but it's still equaled
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the one forty plus the ten and the ten. Menager, Okay,
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if I could ask you to flip back to twenty
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seven to fifty eight, they're in sequential order, so it
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should be about eight pages back. Virginia. Yes, Menager, al right.
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Do you see Do you see that it's an email
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from Paulo Silva to your email account? Virginia, Yes, Manager, honor,
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about March twenty eighth, twenty eleven. Virginia, yes, manager, all right,
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and it appears to be his introductory email to you.
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Is that a fair characterization, Virginia, It would be hard
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to say. Like I'd never had to look at the
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first one, that's June twenty fourth. This is March twenty eighth,
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I suppose, So if he's introducing himself as Paulo Silva manager,
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all right, And in this email, he introduces himself by
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name and tells you that he works for Solo Syndication
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and represents they are the official syndication agency for Daily
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Mail and Mail on Sunday, and that he's been overseeing
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the syndication of your image. Correct Virginia, Correct manager, all right.
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Then he tells you that with regard to your image
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with redacted, he can confirm that they've been able to
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sell it frequently over the last couple of weeks, and
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he listed the names of various news agencies to whom
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they had sold the image, correct Virginia, Correct manager. And
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then he tells you that the sales were as of
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last Friday. And then what your share of it is,
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correct Virginia, Correct manager. In your share of it was
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approximately half of whatever the cells were, correct Virginia. Yes,
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it looks that way, manager, all right. And so then
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he gave you their general payment terms, correct Virginia, Yes, yep, manager,
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And that is the syndication deal separate and apart from
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your deal with Mail on Sunday to get paid for
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the stories and the chunk. Virginia. Yes, Manager for the image, Virginia,
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So I will have to correct my previous statement. Manager, Okay, Virginia,
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So I forgot completely about the fact that I received
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four thousand, four hundred and eighty seven dollars and fifty
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cents for the pictures that got sold, Menager. And it
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is possible it was sold some more after that date
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for which you receive some money. Correct, Virginia, I don't
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believe so. I didn't even remember this one, to be honest.
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So if there's any others that you can show me,
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I'd be happy to look at them. Manager. Well, I'm
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just asking if you remember what the terms of your
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agreement with this syndication solo syndication, Virginia. Well, like you said,
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it looks like half a of in regards to your
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image with redacted, I can confirm we've been able to
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sell it quite frequently over the last few weeks. So far,
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we've been able to sell it to the following clients
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and then it lists names. So far, the total sales
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as a Friday is the number listed there. Therefore, your
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share is four thousand, four hundred and eighty seven dollars, menager.
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So let me be clear, I guess I'm asking do
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do you recall what your deal was with Solo Syndication? Virginia. No,
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I do not recall it. I just remember Sharon writing
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up the contract saying one hundred and forty plus the
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ten and the ten. I completely forgot about the syndication
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for four thousand and four hundred and eighty seven cents. Menager. Okay,
54:45
I'm going to ask you to turn back to twenty
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seven to fifty four, Virginia. Twenty seven to fifty four, menager, Correct, Virginia, okay.
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And it's a document with a heading Solo Syndication Limited.
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Is that the right page you're on? Virginia, Yes, Manager,
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dated May twenty third, twenty eleven. Correct, Virginia, yes, Manager,
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all right. And there's some handwriting in the middle of
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the page, towards the bottom. Virginia, not my handwriting, Manager,
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it's not your handwriting, Virginia, No manager. Do you know
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whose it is? Virginia? No manager? All right, Virginia. I
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don't even know what it says. Does it say CHI
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canceled and something? Mode? I have no idea what it
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even says. Manager, Okay, and it's not your handwriting, Virginia. No, Manager,
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it was produced by your attorneys, correct, Virginia. I'm sorry, Manager,
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it was produced by your attorneys, correct, Virginia. Yes, they
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went through and gave you, guys everything you asked for. Manager.
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All right, Since these emails come from your email address
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to and from Paulo Silva, do you have any reason
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to doubt that they are your emails? Virginia, I have
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no reason to doubt. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap
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up right there, and in the next episode, we're going
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to pick up where we left off. All of the
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