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You've Been Gilmored: Isaac Mizrahi · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in you.
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  Speaker 2: I am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Hey everybody, Scott Patterson, I am all in podcast. Very excited.
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  Speaker 1: This is going to be our first episode for something
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  Speaker 1: that we have dubbed You've Been Gilmore. So we hear
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  Speaker 1: all you super fans out there want to be a
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  Speaker 1: part of the podcast. So as a new series we
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  Speaker 1: are doing, We're gonna bring on a super fan to
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  Speaker 1: get their take on everything Gilmore. This week we are
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  Speaker 1: starting with Gilmore Girls. Super fan and celebrity designer Isaac
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  Speaker 1: ms Rahi. Isaac worked extensively in the entertainment industry as
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  Speaker 1: an actor, host, writer, designer, and producer for over thirty years.
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  Speaker 1: He is a subject and co creator of Unzipped, a
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  Speaker 1: documentary following the making of his Fall ninety four collection,
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  Speaker 1: which received an award at the sun Dance Film Festival.
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  Speaker 1: He hosted his own television talk show, The Isaac mcsrahi
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  Speaker 1: Show for seven years, has written to books, and has
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  Speaker 1: made countless appearances and movies on television. He is the
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  Speaker 1: chief designer for Isaac Mizrahi Brands, a division of Excel
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  Speaker 1: Brands incorporated in two thousand and nine. He launched his
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  Speaker 1: lifestyle collection Isaac Mizrahi Live on QVC. His I Am
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  Speaker 1: New York City collection is currently sold at Lord and
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  Speaker 1: Taylor and Hudson Bay Company. He is a director of
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  Speaker 1: A Little Night Music and Magic Flute the Opera Theater
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  Speaker 1: of Saint Louis. So much more we can we can
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  Speaker 1: go into, but let's just bring him on. He's got
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  Speaker 1: his own production company, Isaac Mssrahi Entertainment, under which he
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  Speaker 1: has several projects and development television, theater and literature. His
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  Speaker 1: memoir I Am was published in February twenty nineteen. He
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  Speaker 1: and he's currently hosting his own podcast called Hello Isaac.
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  Speaker 1: One of my good friends Isaac ms Raja, Hello Isaac,
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  Speaker 1: You're our first guest on our new segment. You've been gilmourd.
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  Speaker 1: You are the absolute And he said, who's the biggest
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  Speaker 1: super fan? I said, you gotta get Isaac. I don't
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  Speaker 1: care what he's doing, I don't care where he is
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  Speaker 1: in the world. Screw it. Get him, book them, get
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  Speaker 1: them all.
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  Speaker 2: Get me. I am a Gilmore super fan.
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  Speaker 1: You are.
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  Speaker 2: I am a Basil super fan. You're the guy Aladino
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  Speaker 2: valad German superfan.
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  Speaker 1: You're the guy. You're the guy.
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  Speaker 3: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So last time we talked to you watched the entire
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  Speaker 1: series four times. Have you watched again since.
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  Speaker 2: I watch it? Yes? I mean, it's just it's literally
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  Speaker 2: I go between this is my thing. I go between
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  Speaker 2: Gilmore Girls, Masel, and Downton Abbey. I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: Downton Abbey got him, but it's like one of those
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  Speaker 2: three things I visit like literally every single night.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Okay, well that's well, so what's your favorite line
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  Speaker 1: of all time? Favorite line?
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  Speaker 2: You know, this is gonna sound a little trite, but
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  Speaker 2: because I think it's something she says it often, Laurel,
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  Speaker 2: I says, I smell snow. And you know, it's like
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  Speaker 2: the greatest line in the world because because first of all,
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  Speaker 2: you can smell snow, right, And that's such an incredibly beautiful,
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  Speaker 2: astute thing to say. And as someone Scott, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I hate the summer. I don't like the summer really, really, Darling,
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  Speaker 2: I hate the summertime.
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  Speaker 1: You're a winter guy. You like the winter.
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  Speaker 2: I love the winter. I love the snow. And so
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  Speaker 2: of course, you know when she says I smell snow,
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  Speaker 2: I literally start crying. I'm like, oh, my god, it's snow.
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  Speaker 2: And then I think it's never gonna snow again, and
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  Speaker 2: right like, oh man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you should move to either or you should spend
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  Speaker 1: time in Lake Tahoe, or.
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  Speaker 2: You'd hollow, darling, I should move to stars hollow.
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  Speaker 1: Right or there? That's are you a skier? But by
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  Speaker 1: the way, are you no? So you just like the snow.
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  Speaker 2: I just like the snow. I like play with my
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  Speaker 2: dogs and the snow. I like to look at the
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  Speaker 2: snow from indoors. I like to sometimes walk in the
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  Speaker 2: snow for a minute, and then I get tired and
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  Speaker 2: cold and I want to come inside. But I prefer
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  Speaker 2: that to being like hot and not knowing how I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to get you know, a little air. Besides air conditioning,
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  Speaker 2: I don't air conditioning. I like the winter and I
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  Speaker 2: love the snow.
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  Speaker 1: Well, we're both snow guys. I love the snow. I
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  Speaker 1: love it. You see, Oh, you can't get me off
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  Speaker 1: the hill. You cannot get they live close the list
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  Speaker 1: and I'm still like, I'm trundling up the hill on
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  Speaker 1: my own. I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: Right the ski.
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  Speaker 1: Patrol has to kick me off. It's nighttime. I get
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  Speaker 1: a miner's helmet on I'm skiing. I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, you're so lucky. I don't like it. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I grew up with it. I mean, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: got a pair of wooden skis when I was seven,
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  Speaker 1: and the rest is history. What can I tell you?
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  Speaker 1: What's your favorite episode? What is your favorite episode? Tell
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  Speaker 1: me why it is your favorite episode.
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  Speaker 2: There are two episodes that come to mind, right, and
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  Speaker 2: we can discuss both of them, and it's really random.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, you could talk about the graduation. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: there's a million of great episodes. But I think of
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  Speaker 2: the hilarious episode where Rory does the benefit and she
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  Speaker 2: like dresses in the USO thing is so ridiculous and
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  Speaker 2: she's like sort of trying to be like a daughter
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  Speaker 2: of the American Revolution and she's trying so hard to
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  Speaker 2: fit in with those women and it's just a very
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  Speaker 2: funny episode. And Rory looks really really hot in that uniform.
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  Speaker 2: So that's one of my favorite episodes. The other episode
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  Speaker 2: that I just love, well, I love Emily, Like I
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  Speaker 2: just first of all, I want to meet her, like
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  Speaker 2: next time we go, next time we do this podcast,
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  Speaker 2: we have to get that person we have to get
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  Speaker 2: Emily Gilmore because I need to meet her. I just
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  Speaker 2: love her so much. But I love the episode where
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  Speaker 2: is that she she goes like a little blind and
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  Speaker 2: they have to like sort of shepherd her around and
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  Speaker 2: Rory has to drive her around.
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  Speaker 1: You know that episode where No, I mean it must
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  Speaker 1: be beyond season six or seven because I haven't gotten
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  Speaker 1: there yet.
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  Speaker 2: No, come on, it's where it's where she gets like
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  Speaker 2: where I forgot exactly what the premise is. But but
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  Speaker 2: but Laurel I has to kind of take care of
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  Speaker 2: her and drive her around. And because she can't see
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  Speaker 2: or something, oh, she can't see she gets something in
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  Speaker 2: her eyes and she can't see. That's the funniest episode
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  Speaker 2: of the world. I love that. I don't exactly remember
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  Speaker 2: what it was about, but I just think because it's
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  Speaker 2: about the relationship between Emily and Laurel, I I love it.
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  Speaker 2: I love that relationship because it really what's the word
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  Speaker 2: it resonates for me personally. You no, like I have
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  Speaker 2: a fraud relationship with my mother, And any of those
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  Speaker 2: episodes where you know where Emily is being a pain
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  Speaker 2: in the ass, it's just the greatest thing.
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  Speaker 1: Like all of them, particularly.
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  Speaker 2: Because she's like, she needs she needs Laurel. I like Laurel.
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  Speaker 2: I has to kind of like drive her around. And
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  Speaker 2: it's a really funny episode. The episode. I just can't
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  Speaker 2: remember exactly why or when it comes.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's season six, season six. It's Hannah just
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  Speaker 1: told me it's season six. I haven't seen it yet.
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  Speaker 2: What do you mean you haven't seen it yet? Darling?
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  Speaker 2: What is that supposed to mean? Didn't you shoot it?
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember from twenty years ago? Short term memory? Short, Look,
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  Speaker 1: you've been on Broadway. It's all about short term memory.
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  Speaker 1: You don't remember it.
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  Speaker 2: So you aren't a super fan. I'm a super fan.
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  Speaker 2: I can rewatch it a million times.
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  Speaker 1: And you don't know the premise of this podcast was
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  Speaker 1: I called iHeart and I said, I've never seen the show.
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  Speaker 1: Let's do a podcast where I watch it and the
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  Speaker 1: fans can rewatch it. When you can write, it's my
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  Speaker 1: first impression of the episodes.
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  Speaker 2: How long does it take?
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  Speaker 1: You?
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  Speaker 2: Don't you binge? Don't you pay?
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  Speaker 1: No? I can't. I'm not allowed to. I'm under contract.
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  Speaker 1: One at a time. If I watch two or three
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  Speaker 1: or four, you know, Amy Sugarman will send a hit
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  Speaker 1: band and smack me down. Man, I'll tell you I
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  Speaker 1: can't do it.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't realize that I want to do it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. Don't get me wrong. I want to binge
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  Speaker 1: the heck out of this thing. O my god, but
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  Speaker 1: I got Amy Sugarman assassins out there watching me making
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  Speaker 1: sure I don't. Okay, yeah, got it. These are heavy,
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  Speaker 1: heavy people, man, They're like seriously trained.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, what we do for podcasts?
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  Speaker 1: What is your Here's here's a big question. You're ready?
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  Speaker 1: Are you ready? Who's your favorite Gilmore character?
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  Speaker 2: My favorite Guildmore well, aside from Laura La, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: what is more charming than Laura? Like and and you
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  Speaker 2: stop it, stop it now now? My favorite Gilmore character
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  Speaker 2: has got to be Emily Gilmore. I just think she
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  Speaker 2: is the greatest, funniest and I completely understand her. And
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  Speaker 2: she's so much like my mother, likely well down to
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  Speaker 2: the way she dresses, down to kind of the way
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  Speaker 2: she looks. She kind of looks like my mother, just
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  Speaker 2: a teeny teeny bit love her. She's so funny and
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  Speaker 2: so I don't know, like pretentious in this cool way.
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  Speaker 2: You know. I love Emily Gilmore?
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  Speaker 1: Is that a good enough?
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  Speaker 2: Is that a good enough answer, that's my face.
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  Speaker 1: Definitely, she's definitely a fan favorite, for sure. She's a
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  Speaker 1: seminal character, and I think the tension that her character
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  Speaker 1: creates is is significant. It's, you know, all of that
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  Speaker 1: old school tradition and manners and keeping the bloodline pure
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  Speaker 1: and keeping it you know, and all that patrician stuff
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  Speaker 1: that's so important too. And it's so it's point zero
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  Speaker 1: zero one percent, right, fun.
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  Speaker 2: It's funny when like you watch it back now and
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  Speaker 2: it's like it is one percent and it's like a
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  Speaker 2: little bit it's not exactly cringey because they still exist,
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  Speaker 2: but it's very very white, you know, like that Emily
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  Speaker 2: Gilmore character is. It's just like a really white, white,
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  Speaker 2: white white character. But you know, like in some ways
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  Speaker 2: I feel like she's eternal and she's classic. And that
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  Speaker 2: actress I think is her name Kelly Bishop. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's Kelly Bishop. Like she gets something. She gets to
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  Speaker 2: the core of that character, and I think like everyone
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  Speaker 2: can relate to that as a mother, Like everyone can
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  Speaker 2: relate to that mother. I think she gets to something.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, so it doesn't matter if you're white or black,
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  Speaker 2: or Jewish or Chinese or whatever. She kind of like
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  Speaker 2: she just becomes like everyone's mother. And I think it's
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  Speaker 2: really like the writing, but I think it's also the
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  Speaker 2: gift of that woman. She just appears. I think she
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  Speaker 2: was like this is I don't know who she was
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  Speaker 2: before the Game Wore Girls. That woman Kelly Bishop. Now
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  Speaker 2: she's on Mazel. She plays that hilarious matchmaker character, which
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  Speaker 2: is hilarious also so funny, you know, and she's great
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  Speaker 2: at that. But she got at something in the Gilmore Girl.
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  Speaker 2: She got to that mother thing that everybody could relate to,
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  Speaker 2: rich people, poor people, everybody. You know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, upholding traditions. Yeah, holding the family together.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently she was the original Sheila in a chorus line,
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  Speaker 2: that's what Neil says.
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  Speaker 1: Right, right, And she was. She was in what's the
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Swayze Jennifer Gray Dirty dancing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, dirty dancing, right exactly, that's right. But by the
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  Speaker 2: way I saw I saw a chorus line about fifteen
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  Speaker 2: times when I was a teenager.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, Kelly's a real deal dancer and actress.
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  Speaker 2: One is when to meet and we're just gonna both
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  Speaker 2: like freak out.
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  Speaker 1: You know me too. I think one day, like Kelly
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  Speaker 1: and I will meet and I maybe she'll freak out.
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  Speaker 1: How do you feel, Isaac, how do you feel about Christopher?
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  Speaker 2: Christopher was are you kidding me? I? I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what it was like. I would see him on screen
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  Speaker 2: and I would just go like that man has to know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what that actor's name is, but I
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  Speaker 2: was born to like be that person's lover. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know what his name was, but he is the most
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  Speaker 2: incredibly attractive person I've ever seen in my life. Kind
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  Speaker 2: of like suits, those like baggy like nineties kind of suits.
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  Speaker 2: Forget about. He was the most attractive person in the world. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and again I didn't think he was right for laural I.
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  Speaker 2: I never thought he was right for Laura la except
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  Speaker 2: he was so being attractive. He was like one of
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  Speaker 2: those people that I would have just like lown myself at,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and it would been wrong, wrong, wrong, because
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  Speaker 2: he was just he was just so callow. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: he was never he never had the right substance.
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  Speaker 1: You know, mm hmm.
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  Speaker 2: You know, like sometimes rich people just don't have that substance,
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  Speaker 2: right generation rich people, Yes, they lack the substance, right Christopher,
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god, you know what.
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  Speaker 1: This leads me back to another question, which I think
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  Speaker 1: is important given your feelings about Emily. Now we know
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  Speaker 1: how you feel about Christopher. Oh what do you think
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  Speaker 1: about Emily trying to break up laurel I and Luke
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  Speaker 1: Vaya using Christopher as her programmable robot to go in
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  Speaker 1: and showing.
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  Speaker 2: Human darling, She's she's human, she's human, right, So what
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  Speaker 2: do you think about that? She didn't see it? And
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  Speaker 2: and that's what I love about the writing of that relationship,
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  Speaker 2: you know, because it's like, you know, she didn't understand
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  Speaker 2: how much Luke meant to Laurelai. She just could not
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  Speaker 2: fathom it. She just could not. And maybe I do
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  Speaker 2: think that, oh, what's mister Gilmore's name, whether Richard Richard Gilmour.
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  Speaker 2: I think that between Richard and Emily there was a
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  Speaker 2: real bond, you know. I think they really loved each
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  Speaker 2: other and they really got to this incredible point in
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  Speaker 2: their relationship together. And of course there were those seasons
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  Speaker 2: where they were, like, you know, sort of separating a
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  Speaker 2: little bit, and then they kind of lived apart for
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  Speaker 2: a second. But but I don't think it was the
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  Speaker 2: same between Christopher and laurel I. I think that the
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  Speaker 2: mother just kind of assumed it was and she assumed
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  Speaker 2: it was the best thing for her daughter because there
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  Speaker 2: was like security and money. Yeah, but she was wrong
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  Speaker 2: about that. She really stopped, didn't she. She really did, gop.
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  Speaker 2: She went all the way there and Emily did, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: she did. And I love this. Listen, darling, My mother
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  Speaker 2: has gone all the way there and up in my
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  Speaker 2: like she is like really led me down the wrong
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  Speaker 2: garden paths, you know what I mean? This is why
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  Speaker 2: I think it's such a great show for like a
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  Speaker 2: you know, for one of those networky hour shows we
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  Speaker 2: have like a million executives like calling every five seconds
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  Speaker 2: with an opinion. I think they really managed to keep
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  Speaker 2: it very, very real, you know. That's what's right about
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  Speaker 2: the Gilmore Girls. Delightful And it's how many seasons is it?
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  Speaker 2: Seven seasons?
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  Speaker 1: Seven?
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  Speaker 2: Seven seasons?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god? And we're just getting started, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so should they have been well, let me ask
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  Speaker 1: you this, okay, please, do you think that Luke is
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  Speaker 1: the best match for Laura l I yes, I do.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not just saying that because you're sitting here, well,
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  Speaker 2: because you know, he may not be her equal in
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  Speaker 2: every single way. But then again, she's not his equal
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  Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: And I feel like they compliment each other. They're very
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  Speaker 2: very well and they have that incredible chemistry, you know,
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  Speaker 2: and they have that incredible history. And he makes that
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  Speaker 2: really good coffee, you know. You know, someone makes that
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  Speaker 2: coffee for you, darling. That's a hard thing to be
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  Speaker 2: but no, but you know, and I think that they
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  Speaker 2: wrote it in such a way that they kind of
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  Speaker 2: convinced us that it was the right thing. You know.
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  Speaker 2: They threw you off, and they put you on, and
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  Speaker 2: they threw you off, and then finally in the end
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  Speaker 2: you got why they were right together, you know, whereas
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  Speaker 2: the other men in her life. You know, I always
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  Speaker 2: thought the teacher was kind of gorgeous too. The teacher
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  Speaker 2: was his name, Max, Max exactly. He was kind of
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  Speaker 2: a hot moment for Laurali as well. And in the end,
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  Speaker 2: she didn't bother. She just kind of let it go.
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  Speaker 2: And so I thought, Okay, well she doesn't care that much.
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  Speaker 2: I know what that's about. I Mean, that's the great
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  Speaker 2: thing about all of these and these characters is that
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  Speaker 2: you know, they're written to an extent where you understand
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  Speaker 2: perfectly by the end of the four episode arc or
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  Speaker 2: the season arc or whatever it is, where these characters are,
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  Speaker 2: you really do understand. And not because it's full of
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  Speaker 2: exposition or full of like it isn't. It's because it's
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  Speaker 2: like really psychologically very well considered. So yeah, So I
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  Speaker 2: think I always I everybody, the whole the whole world.
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  Speaker 2: I think that was the story. That was story number one, Right,
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  Speaker 2: Will Luke and Laurel I end up together? And we
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  Speaker 2: hope they do. Everybody was just hoping the whole time,
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  Speaker 2: even when we thought that Luke was a shot or
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  Speaker 2: Laurel I was a sh and they were shot together,
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  Speaker 2: we were still kind of hoping somewhere in the back
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  Speaker 2: of our minds that it would work.
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  Speaker 1: Who's your favorite boyfriend for Rory?
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: That's so easy, it's logan, No, just completely Jess. Yes,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: I'm so shallow. I just think that Jess was the
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: hottest first of all, the best looking, right, And there's
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: something about the character that I think, first of all,
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: he wrote a book, you know, so anybody who writes
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: an actual book is a genius. And I think was
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: it a book of poetry or was it a book?
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: It was. It was a slim volume, you know.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: I think it was a book of poems.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: It was a book of poems, and it was a
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: slim volume. And I think, like God, that is absolutely
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: like that is the most heroic thing a person could
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: do in their lives. I write a book and then
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: a book of poems like that requires such an incredible will.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: That's the will of iron, you know. And so I
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: always thought that she kind of missed the boat with Jess.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: And then of course later, you know, when he comes back,
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: he's so cool, It's like, Wow, you really missed the boat.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: One thing I sort of can't believe is that we're
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: still dangling in the world and we still don't know
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: whatever happened to Rory.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: It's very very strange feeling, isn't it. After twenty three years,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: we don't know.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I mean it, we still don't know what happened to her,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: you know, Like, do you know, do you secretly know
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: what the Palladino Sherman's did to her?
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, And honestly I don't want
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: to know.
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: Don't want to know, you're kidding. I want to know
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: how she ended up.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Well, we saw how she ended up. We saw how
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: she ended up.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Well, she looks like Charlotte Rampling. So there's that. She's
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: so beautiful.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: You think she looks like Charlotte Rampling.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, she looks exactly like you think.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Alexis looks like Charlotte Rampling. I guess you know what,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: I guess she does.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: And she's extremely beautiful.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: I guess I guess she kind of does. Yeah, I
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: see the jawl lie and yeah, okay, oh.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: It's that kind of also that mysterious.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I know what you mean. Yeah, I
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: mean Charlotte was a little I don't know more, I
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: don't know what's the word tomboyish.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: She was tough as much, but she wasn't given the
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: words to say by those crazy writers. A lot of words.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: But yeah, so who do you think? So you think
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: so it's Jess for you?
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, Jesse. Absolutely.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: What do you think of this Logan guy in this
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: relationship he's got going on with because I'm just starting
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: to see the fruits of this relationship because we're in
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: season five, we're well into season five, we're halfway more
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: than halfway into season five. So Logan's kind of made
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: his move.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: So when you didn't see the shows, but you didn't
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: actually you only read your scenes.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: No, I read the scripts, but I don't remember them.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Got it, Okay, got it?
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Got it, Isaac, Isaac. In order to shoot these scenes,
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: you gotta have just, you know, store store this dialogue
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: very temporarily and then then flush it and then make
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: room for the new stuff. And that's the muscle you developed.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: It so hard, that's so hard. But the point about Logan, right,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: he was a necessary diversion for Rory. But I can't
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: believe that in the redo. How How I can't believe
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: how that kind of happened that she was she was
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: kind of like brought into that and she sort of
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: had that affair and everything that was really I didn't
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: think that was going to happen, and it did. And
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: I really like when real things happen, Like that's a
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: really fucked up thing to happen, and they let it happen.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: They made it happen.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: But anyway, going back to the season five or whatever
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: you're on, where Logan kind of and she and you
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: think it's a good thing, and it becomes this kind
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: of necessary step for her, and you think maybe it's
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the thing that Laurel I never did, that the daughter
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: needs to do because she can handle it, whereas Laurel
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I needed to rebel or something like that. Maybe she's
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: living the dream of of of of Emily. You know,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: she's gonna she's gonna do it for Emily, right, And
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: then sort of he begins to become this really boring,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: one note kind of rich person, you know, like that
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: whole thing where he he does that ridiculous parachute parachute
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: ParaSail thing and gets gets injured and almost dies.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: And you mean that the light Light and Death Brigade,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the Life and Death Brigade where they jump off.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: The thing exactly exactly. It's like this umbrellas, like this
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: freemason society that takes place in like these frat houses,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: and where he gets Harvard or something where he goes,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, he goes to yell as well, she goes
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: to yell. That's what I mean, yea and yeah and
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: so yeah, and so he jumps off a cliff with
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: these friends of his and he injures himself like nearly
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: nearly dead. He goes nearly dead, and there's Laurel I,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: who's you know, sort of devoted to him, and she
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: nurses him back to health.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Huh, all right, so that happens.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I'm like, no, girl, no, no, no, no, no, you
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: do not want this man. You're not nursing a rich
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: man to health and then he loses all the money
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: and everything. You're like no, no, no, no, no no no
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: hu distance distance.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Alight. So we have a fashion question for you.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: What do you think of laurelized bridesmaid's dress for Emily
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: and Richard's vowel renewal? Do you remember that?
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: I don't really remember it? No? Should I google it?
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: No? No, no, it's okay if you don't. We have a
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: million other question don't worry about because it was a
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: We thought it was a some people. Some people on
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: the panel thought it was great. Other people thought it
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: was a little inappropriate for these I.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Love the way they dress, I love those They have
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: so many good sweaters. I have taken so many screenshots
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: of those sweaters and sent them to my design staff, going,
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: what about a cute little you know, like hand crochet,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: kind of harlequin with sequence.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I'm not kidding.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: They have some good knitwear, some good knitwear. Carthy had
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: some good prints. It was a good sense of Print's character.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: She liked.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: She liked to Print.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Is there a storyline that you would change? What would
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: it be?
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: If?
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: If? If? If you think there's a storyline you would change?
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: Could I really say this? Because I don't, because I didn't.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: I don't watch the remake as much as I watched
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: the regular season. But as I remember, like Laurela I
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: has this really shy moment in the remake, It's like
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: she takes her whole life, takes a really kind of
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: like a path that I don't like, and I want
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: her not to. I would, I would, I would somehow
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: try to No, no, no, she has an affair with
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Logan or something, and it's like laurelaybody else Laurel I No,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, did I say Laurela? I met Rory? Oh
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Orlai has a great are you kidding me?
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: She's like all right, no, no, okay.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Has the greatest trajectory of.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: All right, So okay.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: So I'm getting confused again between Dean like I did
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: with Diana.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: So you so you object to the Rory Logan storyline?
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Yes, I object to the later Rory Logan storyline. They
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: get together in London. I just don't like it. I
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: find it like distasteful and beneath our Rory. You know,
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: we raised Rory better than this, Okay, we I don't
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: believe that she would go there.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: I just don't, Isaac. We have so many other questions,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: but we've run out of time and we're gonna have
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: we get We have to have you back on. I mean,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: it's just you come back on. You're the super fan
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: of all super fans.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: You know what I need? I need the MASL super
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: fan podcast. Who's going to do that podcast? Because that
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: is what Forget about it? Right now? I am obsessed.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: I can't live with the fact there are no more
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: episodes of mas coming. I can't stand it. Could you
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: please tell them right?
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Well? Maybe I'll do it. Maybe maybe I'll just do it.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Could do you love that show as much as me?
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: Show? I have not seen the show?
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Come on, why are you living under a rock or something?
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: What's wrong with you? That's crazy? Man?
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Enough to discuss what's wrong with me?
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: The greatest thing in the world ever written.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Okay, but I don't know.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: I find it like, can I tell you what I think?
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: It's like a microaggression against Jews that you don't watch
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: that show. I mean it. It's like, seriously, Darling, I
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: mean it. Watch the damn show.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: I want to. I want to hear about your podcast.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Tell us about your podcast, Hello Isaac.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's called Hello Isaac. And we talk It's
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: really just a lot of funny talk, but we we
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: end up talking a lot about failure and how it
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: kind of changes your life. And you talk about like
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: good things and bad things and ugly things on my podcast.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: But I think it's a smart thing to talk about,
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: like failing, I really do, because it's it's it's got
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: a bad rap. I think failure is a very very
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: good thing in people's life.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I have I have a I have a great suggestion
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: for a for a guest me. Why don't you have
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: me on Let's book it man, Love of God, Let's
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: go am. I can talk about failure all day.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: Failure Babe, you got the right guy starring Scott Patterson.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: You know, I think you should be doing this podcast.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Amazing podcast.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna do them all, all right, I'm gonna do
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: them all. So what kind of guests are you having
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: on your podcast?
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: We have all kinds of guests we have, well we
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: have who do we have? We have Andy Cohen and
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: we have Belinda Carlisle and Jesse Tyler Ferguson and Gabby
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Sida Bay and oh I can't think of Jacques Pepin,
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: you know, the famous chef. And we have this person
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: coming on called Betty Hallbrush who is a fantastic like
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: sort of fashion expert. We have.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I want to be on. I want to be on.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: You're on, Darling.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: I want boy, can we wax philosophic about imagine failure?
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Well, I want to talk about like, you know, what
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: you've done in your life besides Gilmore.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Is that want a lot of failure? But you know
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: it makes a failure maketh the man and and nice
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: clothes too, you know. Always great to see you. Stay cool,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: you get to the beach, ride.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Some waves through, make it through the summer.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: It's not it's come on, it's great out there. It's
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: beautifull out there.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: It is, it's beautiful.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: It's gorgeous out to you know, ride some waves, go
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: to some clam bakes and have some bonfires on the beach.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Are they allowed you a love to do that anymore?
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe I'll host a clam bake. That's a very
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: good idea.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Are you like, are you juiced in over there politically?
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, do you go to all the big fundraisers
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: and hanging out with it?
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: Really? No, I thing is I don't. I decided that
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not a community oriented guy. I do
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: my best, you know I do. I do what I
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: absolutely have to do, right, But otherwise I like to
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: just stay quietly in my home with my dogs and
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: be in my pool. I don't even like going in
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: the ocean. Honestly, I could be anywhere. I could be
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: anywhere in the entire United States. Really, if it was
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: close to like a gourmet food emporium, I'd be fine.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Isaac. It is always a great pleasure seeing you and
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: speaking with you. Good luck with everything. We'll see you
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: next time, and I will come on your podcast.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, you're going to book that immediately.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Let's book that immediately. We will unearth mysteries, and we
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: will we'll attempt to entertain. At the same time.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: You're going to pump you for gilmore information, Okay, information
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: about the Sherman Palladinos.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I think I may give it up. I don't know
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: you're hard to resist. You're you're an irresistible force. All
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: the best of my friends. Much love, and take good
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: care of yourself.
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, buddy.
• 30:59
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• 31:03
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• 31:08
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