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Patriots Unfiltered 8/17: Latest from Packers Joint Practices, Ezekiel Elliot, Roster Projections · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 1: Matt and Nabooth. Evan and Deuce are in Green Bay
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  Speaker 1: you think.
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  Speaker 4: Well, so yeah, I think, Mike. But I'm hoping because
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  Speaker 4: yesterday went very long, that practice about two and a
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  Speaker 4: half hours yesterday. So if it's something like that again
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  Speaker 4: today that they either are going to have to cut
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  Speaker 4: their watching short and going they called chime in, yeah
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  Speaker 4: can't they called during well you know you know those
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  Speaker 4: two like they can't miss a play.
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  Speaker 1: You can't you can't watch and talk at the same
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  Speaker 1: it was actually going on. Just we're gonna hope that
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  Speaker 1: we hear from them, but we'll talk about the practice yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: the reports that came out, and according to some of
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  Speaker 1: the reports, as we were talking earlier, Paul, anything happened.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, basically you thought it happened yesterday, tomaraw it happened
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  Speaker 4: because I read it somewhere vastly different, uh impressions of
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  Speaker 4: the Brown.
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  Speaker 1: You can find a report that will match anything that
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  Speaker 1: you wanted to happen, literally, including the Maario Douglas getting
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  Speaker 1: all the reps with the starters.
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  Speaker 3: And then there was another report that didn't get any no,
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  Speaker 3: and then there was another report that said he like
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  Speaker 3: went four for five or whatever Zappi and only got
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  Speaker 3: one play with the starters. And I'm like, which one is?
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  Speaker 3: It can't be both.
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  Speaker 4: It's so I read a lot of different people because
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  Speaker 4: this is a rare time, Freddy, I don't miss too
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  Speaker 4: many training camp.
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  Speaker 1: Practices over the years, yep.
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  Speaker 4: So I wanted to read as many different people to
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  Speaker 4: try to it seems like the Patriots offense got off
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  Speaker 4: to a really good start. They were crisp and efficient
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  Speaker 4: to start the first eleven on eleven and it gradually
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  Speaker 4: went downhill from there and most by most accounts, the
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  Speaker 4: biggest reason for that was pass protection. The offensive line
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  Speaker 4: really struggled. They're still missing some pieces and they had
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  Speaker 4: a hard time getting the ball down the field. But
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  Speaker 4: there were some things to take away on the positive
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  Speaker 4: side as well, so we're going to get to all
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  Speaker 4: that as we go. Defensively, surprisingly so the pass rush
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  Speaker 4: was good, but other than that, the secondary struggled a
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  Speaker 4: little bit, which I was not anticipating. So it sounded
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  Speaker 4: like the defense had a tough day.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I will say going into it. When I was
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  Speaker 3: talking to Evan before they left, he said he was
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  Speaker 3: more worried about the secondary being able to face you know,
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  Speaker 3: the two wide receivers that Green Bay does have. He said,
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  Speaker 3: you know, both of them were going to be a handful,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm interested to see what they have to say after.
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  Speaker 1: Watching to take those two guys were used to it.
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  Speaker 4: If those two guys are a handful, then we got trouble, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: because they're gonna.
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  Speaker 1: They're going to be facing some really good receivers with
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  Speaker 1: some really good quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, I mean, you got a quarterback first time,
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  Speaker 4: first year starter in two second year receivers that had
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  Speaker 4: decent rookie years but nothing too special. But it seems
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  Speaker 4: like from all accounts, everybody agreed the pass rush on
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  Speaker 4: both sides controlled things, and the Packers offensive line was
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  Speaker 4: missing pieces too, so it was hard to sort of
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  Speaker 4: gauge everything because of the pressure of the quarterbacks were under.
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  Speaker 1: Were they hitting at one hundred percent? Not the quarterback, No,
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  Speaker 1: But in terms of you know, running game or tackling,
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  Speaker 1: no tackling, no tackling. Yeah, So there wasn't any like
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  Speaker 1: goal line or red you know.
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  Speaker 4: There was a lot of red zone, but I don't
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  Speaker 4: think there was any goal line live goal line plays
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  Speaker 4: unless they didn't write about it.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: And then Zeke was there.
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  Speaker 1: Zeke was there wearing number fifteen. You got a new guard. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You see the size of him.
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  Speaker 1: He's a huge Zeke. Yeah. Yeah, he's a big guy.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Now he did have like sweatshirt, like a long sleeve
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  Speaker 4: whatever underneath, so I think he looked a little bit bulkier,
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  Speaker 4: but yeah, he looked big.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what is he? I mean, I know, we goes
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  Speaker 1: at it like two twenty twenty five I think, And
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  Speaker 1: then height wise, what is he six to one? Is
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  Speaker 1: he that tng?
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  Speaker 3: We just look at him, Yeah, well he looks it up.
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  Speaker 3: I will say one report that everyone Well, one topic
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  Speaker 3: that everyone was on the same page on was kind
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  Speaker 3: of the shock of Mac Jones finally talking about what
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  Speaker 3: it's like to follow in Tom Brady's footsteps, which I
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  Speaker 3: thought was interesting, of all days for it to come
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  Speaker 3: up yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, Jordan Love is following in Aaron Rodgers footsteps,
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  Speaker 1: so it's a natural question, you know. But yeah, this
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  Speaker 1: is really the first time he's talked about that.
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  Speaker 4: Six foot two, twenty five. Yeah, he was asked that question.
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  Speaker 4: Fred's Wright in relation to any advice he could give
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  Speaker 4: to Jordan Love following I don't really think it's the
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  Speaker 4: same because I kind of think Mac Jones followed Cam Newton.
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  Speaker 4: I don't really think it's the same kind of situation.
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  Speaker 1: You could make that case. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So that
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  Speaker 1: was and then other news yesterday, Robert Kraft was in
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  Speaker 1: the mix for snubbed coach contributor to the Hall of
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  Speaker 1: Fame and didn't get in. Buddy Parker got in.
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  Speaker 4: Congratulations to Buddy Parker. Buddy Parker's family.
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  Speaker 1: Has been dead for forty forty years.
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  Speaker 4: I thought it was a strange, not that I think
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  Speaker 4: he's not deserving, because I've been read and I have
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  Speaker 4: no idea either, but reading some stuff about him, he
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  Speaker 4: is widely considered the inventor of the two minute drill.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I mean that's a pretty significant the Hall
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  Speaker 4: of Fame. No, I'm just saying it's a pretty significant
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  Speaker 4: contribute to the game.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, No, that's fine.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean if you wanted to be like that,
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  Speaker 4: you know, like that gets you to all of it?
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  Speaker 1: Well, what did like Robert Craft introduced to the game?
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  Speaker 1: Money making it better? You know, doing all those.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm not this is not an argument, but just
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  Speaker 4: was kind of a snarky comment, like he gets in
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  Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame for that? No, listen, yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: kind of think you should get in the Hall of
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  Speaker 4: Fame for things like that. And I would I would say,
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  Speaker 4: shame on the committee for forty years. If he actually
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  Speaker 4: is the inventor of the two minute drill and it
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  Speaker 4: took him forty years after his death to get in
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  Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame, right, that sounds kind of silly
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  Speaker 4: to me. That was more of a shot at the
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  Speaker 4: committee than any I understand.
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  Speaker 1: But like again, you know me about halls of fame,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think any owner should get into the Pro
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  Speaker 1: Football Hall of Fame. I would agree with you, you know,
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  Speaker 1: unless you know they were our boss. Yeah, unless they
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  Speaker 1: became they were a coach first or a player and
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  Speaker 1: they you know, they contributed. It's the Pro Football Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Fame. It's what your contribution is to pro football.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I think Robert Craft had a lot of contribution to
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  Speaker 1: you know, absolutely to pro football in the NFL, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in all the help he did at the committee level, you.
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  Speaker 4: Know committee, yea. I thought he lent a lot of expertise.
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  Speaker 1: Like Jerry Jones is in the Hall of Fame. Jerry
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  Speaker 1: Jones did a lot for the Cowboys, and he did
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  Speaker 1: a lot for Jerry Jones.
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  Speaker 4: Did a lot for the league. He did a similar
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  Speaker 4: kind of stuff introduced when he goes rogue and he
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  Speaker 4: introduces his own you know, uh deals. What do you
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  Speaker 4: think that paved the way for everybody else to do it?
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  Speaker 4: It paved the way put a lot, I mean to
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  Speaker 4: your point, to put a lot of money in owner's pockets, right, right,
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  Speaker 4: But that helps the league. Well, the more money there
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  Speaker 4: is fred, the better of the league.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But I you know, I would also say that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like Paul Tagliboo's in the Hall of Fame.
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  Speaker 1: He shouldn't be. He did his job. Pete Roselle should
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  Speaker 1: be because of what he did getting the get all
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  Speaker 1: the games on free TV and all that stuff, you know.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know, I have a high bar. I
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  Speaker 1: have a high bar with lock stuff, you know. But
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  Speaker 1: I think robber Craft should be in before Buddy Parker.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry. If it took him forty years, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's I would agree with one of those things when
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  Speaker 1: you see it, you know, And the fact is it
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  Speaker 1: took them forty years after his death to put him in.
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  Speaker 1: Probably shouldn't be in.
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, I would agree wholeheartedly with that assessment. Like, to me,
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  Speaker 4: what changed in I don't want to not trying to
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  Speaker 4: be like snarky, but what changed in forty years?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: It's almost like someone forgot and then they're, oh, oh.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Buddy Parker.
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  Speaker 1: So and I'm sure there are a lot of writers
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  Speaker 1: are like, you know, the one hundred million people that
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  Speaker 1: follow the NFL, you don't know history of the game,
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  Speaker 1: but we do, so we're gonna put in Buddy Parker. Please.
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  Speaker 1: Overthinking it, overthinking it.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's a perfect example of that over overthinking
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  Speaker 4: it and I'm sure there are a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: that have been out of the league for thirty, forty
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  Speaker 4: fifty years that belong or deserve to be. There should
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  Speaker 4: be some way to just sort of fix those errors
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  Speaker 4: and not really have them be part of this process.
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  Speaker 4: Like to me, Tom Kafflin, Mike Shanahan, Marty Schottenheimer, Robert Craft,
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  Speaker 4: these are the guys that you should be thinking about
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  Speaker 4: in assessing, not guys that have been out of the
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  Speaker 4: league and unfortunately, in Parker's case, not with us, no
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  Speaker 4: longer with us for forty years.
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  Speaker 1: So I was thinking that, you know, I guess after
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  Speaker 1: Pat Bowling gut and he was the owner of the Broncos,
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  Speaker 1: this one they changed. They changed the contributor thing to
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  Speaker 1: coach and contributor. So now they're all in the same bucket,
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  Speaker 1: and they used to not be. So now I think
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  Speaker 1: it's harder for an owner to get in because you're
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  Speaker 1: going up against coaches, you know that have more direct
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  Speaker 1: you know, influence, and players and teams. So conceivably there
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  Speaker 1: could be a day where Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick
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  Speaker 1: are on the same ballot to get into the Hall
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  Speaker 1: of Fame.
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  Speaker 6: That could happen.
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  Speaker 4: Hopefully, they Fred really wants to start trouble.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, hopefully they separate it and have contributor contributors.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's the way it used to be, but now yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think so. Can you imagine that who should go
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  Speaker 1: in first? I mean imagine talk radio if that ever happens,
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  Speaker 1: like the.
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  Speaker 3: Debates, I feel like it would have to be Craft
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  Speaker 3: in first because Craft hired him, like, he brought him here.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like you wouldn't be here without him.
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  Speaker 1: You could, Yeah, you can make that case that, Like
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  Speaker 1: you know, you were you had your chance at Cleveland,
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  Speaker 1: it didn't go well, you were back to being iordinator,
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  Speaker 1: and then Robert Craft took it, not only hired him,
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  Speaker 1: gave up a first round pick and a lot of
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  Speaker 1: money in order to get him here. Like the faith
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  Speaker 1: he put in him to get him here. You know
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  Speaker 1: that a lot of people criticized him at the time,
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  Speaker 1: told him it was a terrible decision, Bill, terrible decision.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely, that part is one thousand percent.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's why I think he should be in first.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, why, I mean, I think he should be in
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  Speaker 1: first because I think you should be in first.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think you should be in first because
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  Speaker 4: I think he's a strong and powerful man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, conceivably that could happen, you know,
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  Speaker 1: which would be really weird. Yeah. Anyway, Yeah, so practice yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: they're out there today. We're gonna hear from Doucer Evan
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  Speaker 1: at some point during the show, and then we have
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  Speaker 1: a new segment that we're going to be doing right
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  Speaker 1: and about the midway mark. Instead of listening to a
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  Speaker 1: whole bunch of commercials, we've got something different.
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  Speaker 5: Matiz Bauman's hot takes?
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to preview that? Like you know, like no,
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  Speaker 1: you don't have to play it, but just tell us
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  Speaker 1: it's what it's about.
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  Speaker 8: So matise our very own faith Worl and Dylan from
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  Speaker 8: the content team, they are giving hot takes and talking
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  Speaker 8: about it and they are they're funny.
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  Speaker 5: So it's like a show within a show, the show
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  Speaker 5: within the show.
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  Speaker 1: And is it gonna get us in trouble because the
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  Speaker 1: controversial or anything.
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  Speaker 8: No, you could get controversial with you guys, Okay, you
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  Speaker 8: could start disagreeing with that.
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: I know at some point we're going to be giving
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  Speaker 1: away stuff during.
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  Speaker 8: That segment starting with the next episode. Okay, it's just
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  Speaker 8: the introductory.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not just to have new people talk. They're
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: going to be out there giving things away.
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  Speaker 4: So I got a street team.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I know we've had a lot of people
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: saying they haven't gotten their T shirts, so we'll have
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: another opportunity to not send people T shirts.
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  Speaker 4: I see like the the envelopes with the T shirts
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  Speaker 4: in the back and back of Matt back there, so
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  Speaker 4: like he's yeah, he definitely took it to heart.
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  Speaker 1: Freak.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's when you said we really should strive for
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  Speaker 4: one hundred percent. I think that one left like.
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  Speaker 1: A fulfillment set.
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  Speaker 5: They just had to resend their addresses.
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  Speaker 1: That left the mark.
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  Speaker 7: I love it.
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  Speaker 3: One quick update on Jack Jones. Obviously we talked about
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  Speaker 3: that briefly in the last show.
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  Speaker 1: Big update. It is an update.
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: It is an update that you know the court date
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  Speaker 3: is rescheduled and most are insinuating that that means maybe
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: a plea is on the table.
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  Speaker 4: Good to bad Fred that that was pushed back for him.
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  Speaker 1: It's good, is it? Yeah? It's in the season. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but now you at least he played in the Eagles game.
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  Speaker 4: Oh so you think he gets a game man. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: My My original thought on that is, like that now
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  Speaker 4: it's in the middle.
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  Speaker 1: Of the season. Yeah, after the season started. In the
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  Speaker 1: actual it'll still bear watching about, you know, how much
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  Speaker 1: reps he gets, who's he playing with, to see like
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  Speaker 1: what investment they're making.
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  Speaker 4: And that still concerns me, yeah, because he's still you know,
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  Speaker 4: we're not supposed to use starters, backups those terms, but
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  Speaker 4: he's still not really with the regulars on a consistent basis, right.
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  Speaker 4: He evidently struggled a little bit yesterday too, and had
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  Speaker 4: had a few fights as well. He was getting into
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  Speaker 4: it with a receiver or a rookie receiver and then
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  Speaker 4: a rookie quarterback. He started yelling.
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  Speaker 1: At like, I'm all for the fire. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: there was any of this, but there was.
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  Speaker 4: There was nothing too bad.
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  Speaker 1: I know he's always the one. Well it's too much.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, him and individually he needs to relax. I mean
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  Speaker 4: in general, I know, you know, everybody clutches their pearls
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  Speaker 4: when pro football players proud against each other and there's
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  Speaker 4: a fight, And I didn't know that would never happen
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  Speaker 4: here except for like the last six times we've had
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  Speaker 4: joint practices exactly, there have been fights. Because there are
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  Speaker 4: fights when guys get together, they're going to be fighting.
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  Speaker 1: My first day of practice, I almost done into a fight.
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  Speaker 4: Here we go.
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  Speaker 1: No, I it was you know, it was a stand
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  Speaker 1: up drill and I was playing linebacker and the running
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  Speaker 1: back came through and I might have hit him a
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  Speaker 1: little bit too hard. You know, you weren't supposed to
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  Speaker 1: and he took exception to that.
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  Speaker 4: There was throw the ball at you.
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  Speaker 1: No, there was some pushy. It wasn't No blows were thrown.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, my first practice, I really didn't know
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: what I was doing.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm still stuck on Paul saying clutch his pearls.
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: I don't know why, but every time I hear that,
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: it just makes me giggle.
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: A little bit. Yeah.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm an old soul. I didn't have anything
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: modern to give you.
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: I love it. Also, we haven't really talked about this.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: Maybe we haven't talked about it. We have talked about it,
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: but I haven't been here. What's going on with John Jones?
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a that's another good question. It's like seven
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: or eight practice. I think today will be eight in
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: a row. And when he first wasn't available at that
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: I think it was like a Sunday that he wasn't available.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: It was oh no, it was the night, it was
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: the Ian Stadium practice. Nothing, just ve veteran time off.
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: And now it's you know, over a week later and
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: we still haven't seen him. And I think part of
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: I think the secondary struggled a little bit yesterday from
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: what I read, and I think that's a huge part
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: of it because you have Marcus Jones playing a lot
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: on the outside. He struggled. Christian Gonzales had his hands
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: full a little bit yesterday as well. But I think
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: Jonathan Jones just slots guys and without him, you know,
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: everybody is up a notch. I have a developing taken
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: depth in the secondary. Freddy, Yeah. I think Sean Wade
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: is a guy who we haven't really talked a lot about.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: It seems like he's he definitely played well the last
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: handful of practices that we got to see here in
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: Foxborough when it sounds like he made some plays yesterday
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: as well. Could he take a spot away from a
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: guy like Miles Bryant. Yeah, I'll tell you why. I
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: think that is the whole thing about inside and outside. Like,
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: I think Wade has the size to be able to
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: play on the outside, and Marcus Jones doesn't, Miles Bryant doesn't.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: They have to play sort of in the slot, and
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: I think to be most effective, and they might need that. Yeah,
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: they might need a guy who can play outside.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: And let's fill people in a little bit on his
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: history here. You know, he came in what they pick
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: him up on waivers, they trade for him.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: They traded for him two years ago.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Right, he was he was a first round pick. No, no, no,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: But he was highly recruited though, wasn't he.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was a fifth round pick of the Ravens.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: He was going to get cut as a rookie. He's
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: not having a good camp, right, and they traded him
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: for a conditional pick to the Patriots. And he's played
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: very little in his two.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Seasons, and he hasn't you know, when he's in he
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: hasn't played well. No.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he had a tough day I think in Buffalo
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: last year in that last game, I think he gave
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: up one of the bombs.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It's like it seems like he gets in and
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: he's immediately involved in a in a play for the
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: other team. But maybe maybe maybe all of a sudden,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: the light's going off and it happens. I thought maybe
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden he's getting it.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: I thought he was around the ball a lot the
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: last handful of practices.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: We love to see here.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: Some people it takes a little longer, and I think
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: his size could give them more depth outside than Bryant
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: or Marcus Jones, you know, especially if Jack Jones is
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: out of the equation. Now it looks like I think
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: Tomorrow is right. That's the way everybody's writing it is that.
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: I think Mike McCann sort of said, this is an
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: indication that could possibly lead to, you know, him playing out,
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: which I wonder how that works for the Patriots, because
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: if you plead, if he agrees to a deal, doesn't
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: that like wouldn't you think they would have to admit guilt?
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, a plea deal, you know, there's it's you know,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: it's not gonna be a plea and you get off
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Scott free. It would be a plea that either large
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: no jail, yeah, or less time or no jail time
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: with with parole, maybe community service, which that's easy. You
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: do that anyway when you're on the Patriots. But you
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: know he's going to have to do something.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: Well, if he's going to have I wouldn't agree to
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: a plea deal that involves jail time if I were him,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: because that ends his NFL career.
• 19:18
  Speaker 7: It does.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So we'll see what happens here. I mean, you know,
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: we're we're hearing that it could be a plea deal,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: but it could be just you know, other technicalities.
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: This could be a lot of things. I'm just going
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: by Mike McCann. I think Tamara's right. That's what Mike McCann,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: who's a local sort of sports legal, sports expert, I
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: think he's right.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: I think something from him on Twitter today. I think
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: he's teaching a class at Harvard Law.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: At Harvard, yes, because I think he started at un H,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: right or something like that. I think you're right. Yeah.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: Also, Paul, I like your take two about him potentially
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: taking Miles Bryant spot because now we have so many
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: more additions on special teams that can return punts, like
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: Miles Bryant was doing that occasionally. Even so yesterday Kean
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: White was returning punts, which is covering punts. I mean,
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: just like the different people that are returning punts, whether
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: it be Douglas, whether it be Bolden, whoever.
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: It is Bolden and Speed, Yeah, I think.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: Bolden, Speed.
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: Both of those guys have special teams ability. They have,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: in Bolden's case, return ability. So it's like, yeah, I
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: can I can take out a backup cornerback who can
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: return punts to put another guy in who could play
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: special teams and return punts, you know, in in Isaiah Bolden.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so a lot of options. There a lot
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: of options. What about Mac How did he look yesterday?
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: From reports?
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: He was a little up and down, but he had
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: he had his moments.
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: It was funny.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: This is another one of those things that I think
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: depending on who you read. I read a couple of
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: people that said that he looked like some of the sacks,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: some of the pressure was on him because he wasn't
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: getting the ball out on time and in rhythm, And
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I read other places, including Evan, that talked about that
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: being a strength that he did a good It looked
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: like he had did a good job of getting the
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: ball out before breaks and putting the ball on him,
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: had a little bit extra velocity on some of his throats.
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: So I think it's gonna be one of those things,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: depending on who you believe.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: And everybody's favorite backup, Malie cunning him how did.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: He do four snaps all runs?
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Okay, did anyone talk about you know, if they can
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: actually see what's going on? Is that why there's so
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: much like unpredictability and like the reports. Can everyone actually
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: see because you know, not raidorstorm.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I didn't hear any complaints about you know, where they
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: were watching practice from.
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: No, I didn't hear any it just they were field level,
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: I think, which kind of makes it a little bit challenging.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: But I didn't hear anybody.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: So to Matrow's point, radors joint practice, we couldn't see
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: it at all, So I was like wondering if it was
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: the same thing, and maybe that's why it's just a
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: rollercoaster of responses to practice.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Well, I know we got into a little thing yesterday.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: We were told that once the team's got together, we
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: weren't allowed to shoot photos or video either team, and
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: then lo and behold, packers had photos and video. So
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: I understand that today we're going to be able to
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: shoot the whole practice. Oh so hopefully that comes about
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: and you'll see a bunch of stuff on Patriots dot com.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: Do you think there will be any worry, so to speak,
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: after these joint practices if the olon continues to play
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: the way it does. And do you think there'll be
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: some sort of movement to potentially get some help there
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: or do you think they'll just ride it out and
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: hope for the best with the people on the PUP journey.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing. If it all depends on health.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: If guys who are on PUP doesn't look like they're
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: going to be getting better, I think they have to.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: But otherwise I think they're going to ride it out
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: with who they have and hope that they improve.
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: And what are the things that came up out of yesterday?
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: Was that Michael when you is there? Which I took
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: I took as a positive sign. Sure, we've seen Cole
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: Strange pretty much every every day since he got hurt.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: He's been around. I haven't seen a lot of a WNU.
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: He's he made the trip and I guess he was
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: on the field and sweats, so maybe that's an indication
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: that he's getting closer. And they do think that they'll
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: be ready for week one.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: That's good.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: I did see someone just tweet that Connor McDermott left
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: practice earlier there today.
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: I saw that he left yesterday nothing okay, hopefully.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: It's not all right.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: But so the offensive line to me if if you
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: have brown strange Andrew's a WHENU and it still looks
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: like crap, then you have a major concern. But I
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: think until you see that group out there struggling, I'm
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: not as worried about it. If that does that make sense,
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: that makes that's too optimistic for me. Fred No, I
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: mean should I rethink.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that group should be okay, they should be okay.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: But I mean I think that's much like the receivers.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: I don't think it's the best group in the league,
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: but I think it's.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Enough to we've had worse.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's enough to have success with.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: Oh wait, we haven't talked about receivers yet. I did
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: see Parker had a that that seemed to be another
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: person that everyone was kind of crossed the board like
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: they had.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: Everybody said that he was the best receiver for the
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: Pago yesterday.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: That's you know. The rebuttal to Demario Douglas having a
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: career day was no, he wasn't the best receiver on
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: the field.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Parker was like even Mike and Evan, who have been
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: head of head of the class of the to Mario
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Doug Douglas Bandwagon, didn't say much about the Mario Douglas
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Yesterday Booty and that first that first period that they
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: had that was the most successful to day. Evidently Kaishawan
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Boody caught like four passes. He was his most active
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: that they've seen in eleven on elevens according to Heaven.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: So they they practiced for almost three hours yesterday.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: I probably won't there's another one. Yeah, So I two
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: hours and twenty seven minutes. I said, I don't know
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: like that, you know, like four hours like Mike Rees
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: said two hours twenty seven minutes.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: That to me is that's gold state. That's it.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: That's what I go by. But yeah, at Fred's right,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: I heard three.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Hours, three hours. Yeah, Like they.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Couldn't even agree on how long the practice was.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: It's something, isn't it.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: That's why I was like, can they not see like
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: is it? I'm just yeah, have.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Questions, like I guess maybe if you count arrival standing
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: around at the beginning after practice, you know, when they
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: break up into the little group sometimes signing autograph, maybe
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: that whole duration was three hours, But I'll go with Mike.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: You know, he's and I'm pretty sure what I saw. Well,
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: I don't know if that was I don't know if
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: he made that public. He might have sent me something
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: I missed. I just missed with my diet PEPSI. It's
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: almost impossible to not get it in from there, and
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: it went on the backside.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Let's just get him the two liter bottle.
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: Let's just putting No, that's that's for the second half
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: of the show. Relaxed after after that's after fred food.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Fred's food comes.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Okay.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: So a couple of the things that I thought were
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: interesting coming out of the like the health is is
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: obviously the health in the upfront, but on the positive side,
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Keon White continues to be active. Dietrich wise, I guess
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: had a really uh really good day pressuring the passer.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: Judon as always was what was up there. So I
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: thought that the uh, the pressure on the pass or
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: the Patriots put for the front seven was was a
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: real strong point on on defense.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I think this front seven could be good.
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: I really, I really, I'm intrigued by what they could
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: be this season. That they all remain healthy, like far
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: more included like if they can have a whole season.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: With all of them.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Barmore was good yesterday too.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so far More and White as interior sub rushers
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: to me is intriguing.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I remember when they had it was Warren,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: will Fork and Seymour. That was you know, all three
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: of them first round, first round picks. That was a
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: nice a nice defensive line. This one could get up there.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: But I think what would happen is so you've got
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Keon White and you've got bar More, and I think
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: what makes it really good is Judeon you know, when
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: he's you know, coming.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: Up on the other side, so you have some balance,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: you know, if things fall into place.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: So it's not they're not all tackles, but I think,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: you know, those core people really make could make this
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: a formidable front seven.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, different style, but much more conducive to today's football.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: This group. So I'm I'm I'm excited about that. A
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: little bit disappointed to hear about the secondary, but like
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: you said, well, Jonathan Jones out there kind of puts
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: some people in the wrong position.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: But if you want the worry to me and the
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: secondary would be the big plays they allowed, and then
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: you wonder how much of that is the absence of mccordy,
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: And they're still searching for that free safety. They've used
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: a lot of different guys. They've used the mall, you know,
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Jalen Mills, Phillips, Dougger in Peppers. They've all had chances
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: to be back there. And you wonder if that had
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: something to do with the struggles for Gonzales yesterday and
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Jack Jones yesterday on some deep balls.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep, all right? Eight five to five Pats five
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: hundred is the ace ticket hotline, web radio at Patriots
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: dot com. Is the email address? Any other thing? Oh?
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: By the way, from what I understand, the implosion of
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the Jets has begun.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: Oh so I wanted to ask you, did you watch
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: did you see any.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Of the stuff about this? I saw some of the
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: episode two.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: Oh no, okay, are you talking about the joint practice?
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: Rick Stroud, who's a long time Bucks beat writer and
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: one of the really good ones that's been doing it
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: for a while in the NFL, tweeted out that the
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: Bucks are working with the Giants today rather than do
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: the second day with the Jets, which is an arrangement
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: that was agreed upon in March. Okay, everybody else is
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: saying the Jets bailed on the Bucks. Okay, if it
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: was agreed upon in March, right, Like I don't really understand.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: I need this is one of those I have my
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: hand up in the back. I need more information.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't even know anything about that.
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Like if I'm supposed to kill the Jets, I want
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: to know I'm supposed to kill the Jets. I want
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: to go all fred.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: I hate them. But one of your guys, Paul phil
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Perry said on one of his shows yesterday that he
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: said the same thing I said.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: No, everybody is saying it for because that's the only
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: way you can possibly think that the Patriots are better
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: than No, but just by telling you that they're going
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: to fall apart.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: He's saying it's because of the coaches. He said, the
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: coaches are a mess. They're making too much about things.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: They're too you know, sticking their chests out. The defensive
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: coach is talking about peeing on children's toys and like
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: saying like ridiculous things like that. That just took a turn. Yeah,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: like it's it's it's just nuts and that's what I'm
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: talking about. That's the impression I got out of episode one.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: I heard episode two was more of the same, you know,
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: And he said, if they're mugging, whether they're mugging for
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: the camera or holding back because of the camera, either
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: one's not good. You know.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: I don't really know what that has to do with anything.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: I really, I just don't.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Mean if your coaching staff isn't good, it has nothing
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: to do your.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Coaching staff isn't good, then yeah, that's a problem. You know,
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about mugging for cameras or not. Well, that
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: to me, that doesn't mean anything.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: It means that they're not focused on what they should
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: be focused on. Why does that mean that because they're
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: they're thinking too much about the cameras. Okay, no, no,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I don't think that thinks that all back to.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: The joint practices. Why would you only agree to have
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: one and then make them go all the way back
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: to Florida to come all the way back up here.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: It's very odd.
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they didn't go back. They went they were with
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: the Giants.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: It's like, why would you do that as the Jets
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: to force them to even come back?
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: But why I agree upon that in March and then
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: have people say, well, they flaked on him and said
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: they're not going to do too Like someone said that
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: they weren't just the Jets weren't disciplined enough to have
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: two days in a row of practice. Now that might
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: be true, that might have happened. I know there were
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: a lot of fights in that practice too. All these
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: joint practices are filled with. If they're not flat out fights,
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of pushing. You see the thing that
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: the figure who it was, there was a pass rush
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: one on one that the defensive guy came over and
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: he sort of was bull rushing the offensive line and
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: they got kind of tangled up, and then the defensive
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: guy took like a little shot at the guy and
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: one of the guys that wasn't even in the drill
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: came flying out and buried them, like just buried them.
• 31:55
  Speaker 4: It's good stuff.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I liked it.
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: Physicality. You can't do that to your team the other.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Guys, I know.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: I will say our best joint practice was against the Raiders.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: It was clean.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what was the one where I think it was
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: born got into it on the side that was that
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: wasn't It was all kinds of fights.
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: And Carolina also had that you know, that hit on
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Wilkerson Christians that that knocked him out and actually kind
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: of ended his career. He got a concussion was placed
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: on ir and we haven't really heard from him since.
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: Right, and then that guy was kicked off their team
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: that did that.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not good. You know. Again, I'm all for
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: competitiveness and fiery and all that stuff, but that's not productive.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: It's stupid. You know, you're letting your emotions get the
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: best of you. There's other ways to handle it, you know.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: It just takes the time that you have in just
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: you know, uh, it's a waste. It wastes time, it
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: does so. But glad to see the Jets having trouble.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's it's it's better than if it
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: was going swimmingly, right, I'm telling you, I really I
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: think that's the only hope.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: You know, your team takes on the characteristics of its leaders,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: and if the coaches are acting like ooh, it's going
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: to trickle down to the players.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: I think that's what you have to hope for.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm hoping for it.
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: I don't think you can hope to just go out
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: there and man on man and beat them. I'm praying
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: for I think you have to hope that they fall apart.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: I still need to go watch that first episode the
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: two out now I think so.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris were the Tia n rights and no idea
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: if the Jet's coaches are good or bad. But the
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: decoordinator is a tool, total meathead with every cliche in
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: the book. Also like ours, their O line sucks, Rogers
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: explodes by game five, and it's all downhill from there.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Please God, here it is.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's the game plan for the twenty twenty three Patriots.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: If everybody else implodes.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: At least them, at least them, it's just it's shortened freight.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Well, I just want to be good. I don't really
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: care about who's not good. I want the Patriots to
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: be good.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I want the Patriots to be good, and I
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: want it.
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: Just to be bad.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Root for both.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but they're not going to be bad. They have
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: to implode to not That's what I want.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping for that. Why can't I wish for that?
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: You can? I just would rather just be better than them?
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: Why can't it be both?
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Paul?
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: Okay, whatever, I don't really take much solace in beating
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: a team that wasn't trying and implode it. I takes
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: I take the Jets. I take solace and being better
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: than than. You're trying to be too fair. You're trying
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: to be too fair. I'm not being objective. I want
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: I want. I'm not being fair or I want nothing.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: I want my team to be better than that. Yeah,
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: I want nothing, but it's not an objective about that.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: I want nothing but bad things for them. No, that's fine, nothing,
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: that's fine. I don't I think of Miami the way
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: you think of the Jets. But I would rather be
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: better than the teams, like you know, kind of a
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: Brady era. That was the beauty of it. It didn't
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: matter what they did because I was better now. But
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: that's what I want.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: My fear with the Jets is they've got so much
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: talent that they're going to overcome the nonsense.
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: Well, well that's my point about I don't really care
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: what's going on in hard knocks, like do they play well?
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Does does Rogers play well? Because if he does, it's
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: not really gonna matter what he did in August to
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: mug for a camera.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I'm just it's just it's good stuff to talk about.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: They have offensive line issues too, it seems like everybody does.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh eight five five pass five hundred. Web radio
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: at pages dot com is the email address. Let's get
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: people involved here. We'll go to the ACE ticket hutline.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Christian from LA's on the line. What's up, Christian?
• 35:30
  Speaker 9: Hey you guys.
• 35:31
  Speaker 10: Good mine and we get close.
• 35:33
  Speaker 11: I'm close with Pudney actual season star.
• 35:35
  Speaker 10: And so here's my my quick bold prediction is, by
• 35:40
  Speaker 10: I guess the fourth game, DeVante Parker.
• 35:42
  Speaker 11: Will be hurt and Booty will take over as.
• 35:44
  Speaker 10: The high points or kind of a young receiver that
• 35:47
  Speaker 10: steps up for it. I'm going to leave you guys
• 35:50
  Speaker 10: with with that and get back to it.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, thanks, thanks, I mean could happen, although Booty would
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: probably have to be on the he said Parker. I
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: think he said. By the fifth game, Parker is hurt
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: and Booty takes over.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Hm hmm, okay, then they're in real trouble. Why did
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: you think how many like rookies are gonna be playing
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: prominent roles?
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Well, I think he's thinking a little bit different style,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: but I think would have to start on body.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: But Booty is like what Tamara said, Booty is more
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: like Juju. He's like a physical slot receiver.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I think so well then, But.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: My point is, you want Douglas to be a part
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: of the offense, you want Booty to be part of
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: the offense, and we're looking for a jump for Taekwon Thornton.
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: Like that sound like a great recipe for a great
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: offense to have all these young guys. Now, maybe they
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: all work. I don't know. Other teams seem to be
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: able to get young receivers that make immediate impacts. But yeah,
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: I mean I haven't seen that really with the Patriots.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Todd's in North Carolina.
• 36:55
  Speaker 12: Hey Todd, Hey, guys, are you doing okay in your
• 36:59
  Speaker 12: local alarmist? As you know? And when Evan says his
• 37:02
  Speaker 12: hand is over the panic button with respect to the
• 37:04
  Speaker 12: offensive line, it kind of is alarming. So I would
• 37:08
  Speaker 12: heard you guys talk a little bit about it, like
• 37:10
  Speaker 12: how far away are we from just having a disaster
• 37:12
  Speaker 12: season because we just can't blog somebody like one injury
• 37:15
  Speaker 12: or do we have enough depth to maybe handle two injuries?
• 37:19
  Speaker 12: I don't know. I'm just you know, when Evan said something.
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: Like that, kind of I don't think it'll be because
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: of the offensive line. I'm on record as saying I've
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: seen a lot of teams have a lot of success
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: with terrible offensive line play. Okay, most recently the Cincinnati
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: Bengals in the Super Wow.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, usually when that happens, it's
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: because the quarterback can correct adapt.
• 37:40
  Speaker 12: Yeah, So are we dependent on our line because we
• 37:44
  Speaker 12: don't have a quarterback that can adapt it?
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: I think I think yeah. I think the less individual
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: skill that your quarterback has, the more reliant you are
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: on your offensive line giving him time.
• 37:56
  Speaker 12: So then we're having to worry about, you know, maybe
• 38:00
  Speaker 12: maybe seeing the leak more or something to try to
• 38:02
  Speaker 12: throw off people or like this. This is kind of concerning.
• 38:05
  Speaker 12: I don't understand exactly what he said because he mentioned
• 38:08
  Speaker 12: some stuff.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Well, it's I think a lot of it has to
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: do with, you know, getting the ball out of Max's
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: hands quickly, having him be decisive, and you know Bill
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: O'Brien scheming right.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: And the reason why I think it's a problem is
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: todd because I don't think they have dynamic playmakers now.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: The easy retort to my Kansas City and Cincinnati Super
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: Bowl trips with bad offensive lines is Yeah, Kansas City
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: went with Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelcey and Patrick Mahomes
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: and Cincinnati went with Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: t Higgins. The Patriots don't have those, so they're going
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: to have a harder time overcoming average to below average
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: offensive line play than those teams would. And I agree
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: with that.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Brentson Reno, what's up, Brent?
• 38:56
  Speaker 11: Hey, guys, I'm just going a quick question for you.
• 39:00
  Speaker 13: Found out I got a baby coming in March, and
• 39:02
  Speaker 13: I just want to know how early it is too
• 39:04
  Speaker 13: early for me to get the Patriots logo tattooed on
• 39:07
  Speaker 13: said baby.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing, you know, besides the pain, the
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: baby's going to get bigger and the tattoo is going
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: to stay the same size, So you probably want to
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: wait until he or she fills out four four five yeah,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: years old?
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, four months?
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Okay? Anything?
• 39:24
  Speaker 14: Yeah?
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: What now are you thinking like upper thigh, shoulder, you know,
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: back shoulder blade? What are we thinking? Him?
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: This is like I was I was thinking. He was
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: asking like how early is too early to get him
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: or her a Patriots unfiltered shirt? That's what I thought.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: That was never too early for that, right, yeah, yeah,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: but what are we thinking, Brent, like back shoulder?
• 39:48
  Speaker 13: Well, you know, I'm a sailor, so you gotta be careful.
• 39:51
  Speaker 13: You know, how how accurate do you want me to
• 39:54
  Speaker 13: describe the answer to that question? Let's just go ahead
• 39:57
  Speaker 13: and stay the left shoulder, you know, like maybe maybe popeye.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but.
• 40:04
  Speaker 13: Thank you guys for doing that.
• 40:06
  Speaker 15: It'll be.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: Congratulations, Brandeis congratulations.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: All right? Brett and Reno thinking ahead?
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, never never.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: To baby tattoos. You can get those, you know, the
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: fake tattoos that you put on.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Maybe maybe you should try to start off with that,
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: something that's a little less permanent.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Tattoos like semi permanent.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Although well I know those, but you know the ones
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: that come on a piece of paper.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, I might want to start with one
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: of those. Uh we otherwise morel will be the as
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: has the uh well the.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: Expert marines getting real tattoos, right, he has the ink? Yeah?
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Well the then Phillim, what's up, William?
• 40:50
  Speaker 10: What's going on? How going?
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 40:53
  Speaker 10: All right? Questions? Football? Whatnot?
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 40:59
  Speaker 10: Can I can I just be honest?
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: What was our god?
• 41:04
  Speaker 10: Damn this team? Oh my god, Okay, so you said,
• 41:11
  Speaker 10: I'm hearing that the secondary is getting a little bit exposed.
• 41:14
  Speaker 10: Could that be also because of last season? Your corners
• 41:18
  Speaker 10: are too short? Marcus Jones? What Bobby yeh Jones?
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think that. You know, Gonzales is bigger
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: six to one. That's why he was a first round pick. Yeah,
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: but yeah, I'm not I didn't. Let's not make this
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: out to be like there's a lot of concern about
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: the secondary. I think the secondary had a little bit
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: of an up and down day yesterday, and I wasn't
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: really expecting that because the defense has been pretty good
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: throughout the summer, and I thought, you know, the defense
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: struggled a little bit based on what I've read now,
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: I didn't see any of it with my own eyes,
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: So you know me, Fred, I'll let you know when
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: I see it.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I'll go on, you know with
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: that former know formidable front seven. Once you get into
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: real games and quarterbacks can really get hit, that's when
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: it'll help our secondary.
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: Oh for sure.
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: Two. Okay, go ahead, do you leave? Thank you might
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: still there, William.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: I think you might have dropped off.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: A bad connection. I guess, all right, call back if
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: you want. Patty's an agawam. What's up? Patty? Hey, what's up? Guys?
• 42:27
  Speaker 16: What's up to Mara?
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Hi?
• 42:31
  Speaker 14: So I'm not really counting on the Jets to implode
• 42:34
  Speaker 14: this year. We probably you know, I'm with you. You know,
• 42:38
  Speaker 14: the Dolphins been my my NFL Yankees since I became
• 42:41
  Speaker 14: a huge Patriots fan. But they're the team I think
• 42:45
  Speaker 14: that like, and I'm not I think two was a
• 42:48
  Speaker 14: good quarterback.
• 42:49
  Speaker 9: I do.
• 42:50
  Speaker 14: I don't think he's the same guy since he hurt
• 42:51
  Speaker 14: his hip, But I mean, you just do you see
• 42:53
  Speaker 14: the difference with him in there?
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: And yeah, like last year it was night and day
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: when he is out. But they also really didn't have
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: you know, you know, you have a rookie seventh round
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: pick in Skyler Thompson trying to play. I would think
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: that Mike White would give them a better opportunity to
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: sort of move the ball a little bit. To me,
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: the big thing with with Miami will be this year. Obviously,
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: Patty's right, I mean, two was health is number one.
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: But the biggest the you know, just as big for
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: me as the impact that Vic Fangio can have on
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: the defense. Does he make them noticeably better defensively, because
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: they were a train wreck defensively last year and still
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: found a way to win nine games or whatever many games.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: I think they went nine to eight. So and if
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: you can keep the quarterback healthy, you can outscore you know, eleven,
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: you know, ten, eleven, twelve teams. But at some point
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: you've got to be able to play some defense too,
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: and it'd be interesting to see if Fangio can do
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: that with them. Yeah, Patty, oh there he is. I
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: was like, I want okays for having sa Sell issues.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: I think. Yeah. James Pettigrew, the most interesting Patriots fan
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: of the world, says, what did Robert introduce to football? Paul?
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: He brought us the world's original podcast? Now, I was Fred. Now, Well, listen,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: we all work for Robert Craft, and if it wasn't
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: for him, nothing would be possible, right, correct, So got
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: to give him his due. There you go. Web Radio
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: at Patriots dot com is the email address. Let's see.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Nathan writes in he says he listened back to Tuesday
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: show and it's a little bit annoying that fans are
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: wanting cunning him as QB two and seem to want
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: to push Zappi out on what evidence can people suggest
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: it that we saw him play against a bunch of nobodies.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: At least with Zappy, he is a solid backup. He
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: can play in the NFL as a backup, as we've
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: seen when he stepped in for Mac last year. Mac
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: is clearly QB one and Zapi has to be QB
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: two as we know he can step in if Mac
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: gets hurt. I think, Nathan, you're taking a little bit
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: too seriously. I know there's a lot of people.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: No, I don't think that's taking it too seriously. A
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: lot of people think that he should be the backup.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: I know, but yeah, serious people, Yes, yeah, not just
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: A lot of people think he should be the backup.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: Just a couple of quick notes here, Evan Lazar red
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: zone offense lit it up against Green Bay. Mac and
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: Zappy both touchdowns to Juju Bourn two to Parker, two
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: to Douglas.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: Ferkser for Parks Wow. And Zeke had a rushing touchdown Wow.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: Also by that, I think we're winning forty five to nothing.
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: Mark Daniel's another fight, another fight. I don't know what
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: the first one was. Anthony Jennings just leveled number fifty
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: one for the Packers, which key Shawn Banks after he
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: took a swing at Keon White during a special teams drill.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: So yeah, things are getting uh, things are getting frisky, Okay,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: all right? Interesting, can't wait to hear from one of
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: our guys when they.
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: Called Andrew Callahan, Pat's red zone thoroughly dominated. So that's good.
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: So take their hand off of the panic, which.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Is generally what they do.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: I saw that Greg Badad wrote this today and I
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: holdeartly agree that's been their pattern in joint practices a
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: lot lately. Not every time, but they have a tough
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: first day and they bounce back a little bit better
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: in the second day.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: So so far it seems like, so this is about
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: an hour into practice, you would say, yeah, yeah, so.
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: Uh oh what Kevin Lazaar Taekwon Thornton leaving practice after
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: making a diving catch and a deep ball looked like
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: they were checking out his shoulder. I can't, So, you
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: know what, I'm going to stay off at Twitter and
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: wait for them to call in because I'm just gonna
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: drive myself.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: I just I just can't with him.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: It's good to hear that from the offense though, that
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: they're finding a way to you know, find production with
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: this offensive line that is working through some things.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Kyle and Pembroke says, While I'm hyped about Pop Douglas,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I don't think he'll be a major contributor, which in
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: his case would be fifty plus catches. I think he'll
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: really step up next year and use this season to
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: learn and development develop. Do you agree?
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: I think that's more realistic is that it would take
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: a year to sort of get your feet wet. And
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: then I mean even if you look at who's the
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: best of the best, Welker Edelman, right at that spot,
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: you're talking about Douglas, right.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Did I miss? Yeah, Pp Douglas, Yeah.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: Tomorrio, the best of the best did not do it
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: as rookies, right, you know, it took a little while.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: Now you can contribute, and I expect him to be
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: a contributor, but like I'm not expecting to golden catch
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: eighty ninety balls, right, you know, as a rookie. You know,
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: I think people think that way of Edelman and Welker,
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: but that's what they became, it's not what they initially were.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 47:52
  Speaker 4: Now, I might also this guy Douglas might also have
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: more opportunities than they did because they're they're going to
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: Douglas is going to be entering an offense that doesn't
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: have the amount of sure things that Welker and you
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: know Welker did in Miami obviously, and Edelman did with
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: the Patriots.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: Ron and Conway New Hampshire. As far as the joint practices,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: there are concerns, but like Paul stated, if on when
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: you Strange, Brown and Andrew are all in there and
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: are close to coming back, things might be all right.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: I'm warming up to Zeke due to his blocking and
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: pass catching and getting tough yards when needed. And lastly, Paul,
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: I watched the Johnny Manziel documentary and Netflix. It was
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: really great. So that's his review of it.
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I thought it was worth the watch.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: I heard it was. It wasn't all entirely.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: Accurate, Okay, I mean I could definitely see that, But
• 48:44
  Speaker 4: I know when we watched documentaries that were sort of
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: intimately inside of we know there's some inaccuracies in those,
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: right yep.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Gerald In Grimsby says a lot of experts he has
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: that in quotes had the New York Mets winning the
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: World Series this year with all the veteran acquisitions. At
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: the trade deadline, they were trading Justin Verlander and Max Schurzer.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: They're eleven under five hundred and out. I'm with Fred,
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: would love to see a Mets like implosion with the
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Jets and they are less scratching their heads asking what happened?
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: Stacking the deck doesn't mean success. Okay, that's true. That's true.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't it wouldn't it make you feel good? Though? If
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: they implode?
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: How how does it? How does that work?
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: Like? What do you mean the.
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: Implosion you imployed by? Like there's infighting, like the Mets
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: closer got hurt in the World Baseball Classic and they
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: were never the same.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: After they Or do you mean a personal no?
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: Like I mean we can ignore.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about infighting, Rogers starts, you know, spouting off,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: you know, all that, all of it.
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: Like I that I wouldn't have any issue if it's
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: all because of Aaron Rodgers because I don't like him,
• 50:00
  Speaker 4: I make no bones about it. Goes back to twenty
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: ten with the discount double check. Haven't liked him since,
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: but oh it would be and I don't think he
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: wins enough for all the talent that he has. I
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: think he's ridiculously good, and I don't think he's one enough.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Let's see Jared and New Orleans. I like Fred's hatred
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: for the Jets, and I also agree about how the
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Jets are going to implode. I feel the same way
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: toward Buffalo. I think the Bills are our biggest rival Miami,
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: and the Jets are always going to be the Jets
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: and do Jets things during the season. Yeah, I have
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: less hope that the Bills implode, and I wouldn't have
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have the same pleasure if they did, but
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: for the Jets.
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: If they I would feel better about the Jets imploding
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: than the Bills because of Aaron Rodgers and I like
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen. Yeah, so if they implode because Josh Allen
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: is distracted with his like actress girlfriend and stuff like that,
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: like that wouldn't make me as happy.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: I would be happy with it. I wouldn't have as
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: much pleasure as with the Jets. David writes in from
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: North Carolina. I was able to watch the Jets Panthers
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: practice live anytime the two teams played eleven and eleven.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: Rogers never had time to throw the ball. At the
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: end of practice, they ran two minute drills. The Jets
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: went three and out. Rogers angrily tossed his helmet. Their
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: offensive line was an issue last year and will be
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: again this year. Patriots question, is there a rookie in
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: the past that saw playing time that you could compare Douglas.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: To like a wide receiver?
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: No, he just said rookie.
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: I mean I would say Edelman.
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: But he didn't make that immediate impact. No, but he
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: had like forty catches. You know, you could go defense
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: with what's his name? The cornerback that came in the undressed.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: Well, they've had rookies that started. Mac Jones started his
• 51:53
  Speaker 4: first game. Yeah, we're just gonna go by rookies playing
• 51:56
  Speaker 4: right away. Yeah, I mean just two years ago, Mac
• 51:58
  Speaker 4: Jones started every game. Is that came in and kind
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: of unheralded. Oh, I don't know what he's looking for?
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: Then I don't. I don't know exactly.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: You know, you're gonna have to be clarified because do
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: you understand? Yeah, well I think I do. Well. Who then,
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: like I just mentioned him, what's his name?
• 52:13
  Speaker 16: That?
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: No, you didn't, you said that cornerback didn't mention anybody, well.
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: The undrafted cornerback that came in. This is like Jonathan
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: Jones no way before Malcolm Butler, no even before him.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Randall Gay, Randall.
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: Gay, he didn't have an immediate impact. He played right
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: away at the end of the year when of the
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: other guys were hurt.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: I thought he played more. Nope, I thought he was
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: getting run. He had to play when everybody got hurt.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: I have to check that. I think I think he
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: got early run.
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: You're involved in one of the guys who got hurt
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: that is often mocked and ridiculed at certain meetings. It's
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: Sante Samuel, Yeah, got hurt. That's why Randall Gay had
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: to play more of a role. Like I think Edelman
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: is like he was a complimentary piece as a rookie,
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: and I think he caught like forty balls as a rookie.
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: Now you know, I'm not exactly saying that he was
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: a big part of that team because I don't think
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: he was right And I was also kind that was
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: one of the rare, I mean striots teams of the
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: Brady era that just really wasn't all that.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Welker was still there and Edelman had some.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: Early Welker tore his ACL in the last game against
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: Houston and he ended up I think Edelman had two
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: touchdown catches in the playoff loss to Baltimore. Yeah, but
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: I want to say he caught forty balls that year,
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: which is that's solid, solid passion for a rookie.
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: And I think Douglas could do that.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: L from Wisconsin. I feel like every time anything extra happens,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Jack Jones is involved. I'm not really sure why he's
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: still on the team. I feel like people have been
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: cut in the past for a lot less what's going on. Also, Fred,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: no coaching staff in the league thinks about media and
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: cameras more than the Patriots, so.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: All right, and I agree with that. And I also
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: don't think it's as much to do with the Patriots
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: record at the end of the day. But I do
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: think that they spend a lot of time thinking about
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: getting around media obligations and whatnot.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Sure, which is.
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: Weird because it's like, do you think the other teams
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: are really going through our reports and looking at like, okay,
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: like these are with first teams, so we're going to
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: use this in our scouting report. Do you think they
• 54:17
  Speaker 3: do that?
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're saying the Jets are going to look
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: through all of our articles and be like, this is
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: going to be the Patriots first time.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: I think it's somewhat.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: It's two different things.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: I think there's someone on it.
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: It's right, they will do it. They the Patriots do
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: think that the teams do it. It's completely like a
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: waste of time.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: But I think on most teams, if not all, there's
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: someone on the team low level that his job look
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: at all the clips from the other teams. Yep, garner
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: any nugget that you can get, and then you bring
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: it forward and then we'll we'll vet it out.
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: See. That's why it's perfect for the Patriots because all
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: the teams the Patriots are playing or reading all the
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: reports that we're providing, and they're all different.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: Right to prepare for everything, right, right, Dwayne and Dina
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: writes in I don't know who that is, but anyway,
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: wife and I have been Patriots fans from the prairies
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: of Saskatchewan since two thousand. Do you all feel that
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: it's getting harder to produce and recruit top level or
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: elite offensive line personnel or are defensive players skill levels
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: in schemes, scheme planning making it more difficult for most
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: levels offensive line personnel to be as effective or is
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: it a combination. So, you know, we talked about a
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: lot of teams having trouble with the old line. You
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: know why is that?
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah? I think that the big thing is the lack
• 55:38
  Speaker 4: of preparation time. That's what a lot of people complain about,
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: that they don't get enough time to really hit in
• 55:44
  Speaker 4: camp and they're not ready for the physicality at the
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: start of the season. And I do wonder if sort
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: of the the style of offense that it's gone to
• 55:55
  Speaker 4: the last ten years, Freddy, do you think that that
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: has anything to do with it? Because there's so much
• 55:59
  Speaker 4: spread in passing, there's not as much just straightforward drive
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: blocking where you can be physical and dominate. You know,
• 56:07
  Speaker 4: if you're a running team, right and you let's say
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: that you're Trent Brown and you've been killing von Miller
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: all day in the running game, do you think von
• 56:17
  Speaker 4: Miller's going to be as effective rushing the passer as
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: he normally would know? No, So I do think that
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: that might be part of it.
• 56:24
  Speaker 17: Could be yep, could be be good to you know,
• 56:29
  Speaker 17: on a Friday but actually, I don't think Bill would
• 56:32
  Speaker 17: answer that question because it has to do with what's
• 56:34
  Speaker 17: going on now.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: If you were asking ten years ago, then he might elaborate.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: But I'm sure he has his.
• 56:41
  Speaker 4: And I think he'd have a hard time like if
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: you said something like because I think it would be
• 56:44
  Speaker 4: a very fair question to say, Bill, do you think
• 56:46
  Speaker 4: that the state of offensive line play has deteriorated over
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: the last say decade. I don't think he'd be as
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: willing to say yes, because he would be openly criticizing
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: his own play right.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Or even if it's is it harder to put together?
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: Is it hard to develop an offensive line? I wonder
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: what is I wonder what his answer would we.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Should ask Dante? I wonder if he has any insight?
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Let's see, Hugo writes in first time writing, usual podcast Listener,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I've been listening since Newton preseason. This is not that
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: long ago where you've been so. How worried are you
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: that John Jones isn't practicing? And do you think that
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: time Montgomery is done with the team due to the
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: acquisition of Zeke or is there space for both? I
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: think there would be space for both.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: I don't know it's so hard to answer those questions
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: without knowing the health exactly what's wrong with Time Montgomery.
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: But we have not seen him. Second day of practice
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: was when he got hurt. He hasn't practiced since.
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: I do think it's interesting that John Jones, like, did
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: we see him get hurt or he just didn't know?
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: Just all of a sudden on that Friday in stadium
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: practice he wasn't out there. I think this is going
• 57:56
  Speaker 4: to be eight in a row that he's missed.
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: Did his didn't we just renew his contract or extend
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: it or something with it?
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: Was that this year?
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: Is that?
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: This year?
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Is that? This offseason?
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: But I think yes, I think he.
• 58:09
  Speaker 3: Reci I couldn't be like contract related.
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: No, So.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: No, it's interesting, Speking Fresno says Fred, Fred, what's the
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: worst Patriots record you would accept in exchange for the
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: Jets completely becoming Ungluias?
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: That's a great that's a great question. This is what
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: you're really going to see, Fred, what you're made of.
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: Let's go. I want to hear this great questions.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: What's the worst eight and nine?
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: So if the Patriots were anything worse than eight to nine.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because that wouldn't really that means we weren't good either,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: it wouldn't and then success and then it, you know,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: it kind of loses it's it's luster. It's answer. If
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: we're bad too, if we're like, you know, just just
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: about say eleven, then what good is it? You know,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: I can't make fun of them as much because we
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: stink too.
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: But if the Patriots are like eleven and something, Oh God,
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: come out guns, I wun't even be able to contain.
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: Friend. Patriots somehow won ten or eleven games, that might
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: even make up imploded, That might even make up for
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: not winning a super Bowl if we got there at
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: least at least the Jets think, yeah, it's a little low.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: You got to go like at least a winning record.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, nine, But I think I think we might be
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: eight to nine anyway. You know that's the problem.
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: Well, that has nothing to do with what you think
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: they're going to be. He's saying, what's the worst that
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: you would accept as long as you got to make
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: fun of the Jets.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: But like, I think you have a good answer, eight
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: and nine. We could be competitive in most games.
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: You go much lower than eight, you have nothing to
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: be making fun of anybody.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: That's what That's what I'm saying.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I don't really take any solace in going
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: seven and ten, six and eleven, and but you guys
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: were supposed to be right right, Like that doesn't make
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: me feel good.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I I agree, No, we have to we have to
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: be up there for it to really, you know, fee
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: feel good. John Johnny in matt Town, Wisconsin. I agree
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: with Paul on numerous things today, most notably his opinion
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: on Aaron Rodgers. I agree with Paul about as often
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: as the Patriots offense scored in the red zone last year.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: But when I agree with him, it's like we're seeing
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: things through the same eyes. Also, he's right about not
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: wanting to fall back on hoping for a Jets implosion.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: Why can't Bill put together a winning team anymore? He's
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: on the hot seat. This year has to be after
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: what happens since Brady left and tomorrow you're awesome, says Johnny.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: I'm not falling back on hoping that. Like, I'm not, like,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: you know, putting the hopes of the season on their implosion.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: I just hope that it happens.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: See to me, I don't really hope that it happens
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: it would be a nice little cherry on the Sunday
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: if the Patriots were really good and you know what
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: else happened, what made it even better? The Jets imploded. Like,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: I don't take really any solace in the Jets imploating.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: That's the only reason why Patriots can be competitive with them.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: Fish like that doesn't make me feel good. But if
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: the Patriots really good and the Jets are really bad,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 4: that's icing on the gate.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, David who called in before about what rookie you
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: know came on? He wanted to clarificate. He meant rookie
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: wide receiver, So I would say Edelman, what about Well,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: Dan Branch was a second round.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: Pick, so Deon Branch was good. Yeah, like right out
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 4: of the gate. Yeah, I mean, I think it's an
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: easy comparison because they played the same spot. Yeah, I'm
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: going to look up Edelman's stats. I keep saying, I
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 4: think he I think he had forty catches.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's see, while you're looking at that, Josh and
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: Turner's falls. With Miami possibly losing their starting left tackle
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: for a while, the Jets possibly jetting it up, and
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: the Bills possibly regressing just a tad It leaves me
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: wondering if I'd rather go three and three or maybe
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: better in the division in around ten and seven are
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: better in the season, only to get found out in
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: the playoffs and get embarrassed. Or would it be better
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: to have Miami, New York and Buffalo at full strength
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: and playing to potential to see the true nature of
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: this team, even if it means a sub five hundred record.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: I think I'd prefer the latter. I want them to win,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I want them to be in the playoffs, but I'd
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: love the next time the Patriots are in the playoffs
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: that they have the team to belong there and maybe
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: win one or two or two. Yeah.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: I see your point. I mean I would I would
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: take a successful season regardless, but I would feel better
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: about it if the other teams were healthy and you've
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: just found ways to beat them.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: I'm not worried about next year and how they I've
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: worried about this year.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: Right, But that's what he's saying. Yeah, I definitely wants
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: to develop the team this year.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: I would love to be, you know, an entire healthy
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: division versus like getting lucky every single.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: Two years ago when you faced all the teams when
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: they're the players were out and you won ten games,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: but you really weren't a ten win team.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah no, uh, Sam and Charlotte.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: Thirty seven catches for Alman his rookie year, so I
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 4: thought it was around forty.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: Samuel, Samuel and Charlotte. I love to hear Paul and
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Fred argue, and I see Paul's point, but I agree
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: with Fred that I'm cheering for a Jets crash. I
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: cannot watch hard Knocks and cheer for the Jets to succeed.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: I see the implosion coming. They were fighting each other
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: on the same team in practice, and you could see
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Rogers turning against his coaches after a drive didn't go well.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: In joints. I'm cheering for the Patriots to beat the
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: best of the teams, but I'm cheering against Rogers and
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: the Jets as well, Alan and Digg's relationship, as well
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: as Alan and diggs relationship to implode because it's entertaining. Yeah,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: there is an entertainment factor. You do use the drama.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: Chance that they're just like acting like all this drama
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: on the field, Like.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, with the Jets. I do think there's a little
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: bit of muggy for the camera.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: Rogers is upset with the situation of the line. He
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: keeps saying he's okay with it, and then he says,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 4: you know yet or not, like he's I think Aaron
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 4: Rodgers is the prototypical guy, like, don't blame me, it's them,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 4: And that's why I think he has not won as
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: much as he should. Some of his comments about the
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: offensive line. He says all the right thing, and then
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: he has like a phrase at the end is you
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: know it's not my job to get involved in that
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: yet you know it's no, no, it's not really your
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: job ever to get involved in that. But he will,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 4: Oh but he will, but he will. I just like,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: I don't really take any solace in that if I
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: end up being better than a team because they imploded,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: Like I don't like what if you would like?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: That?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: To me is the same thing as there's no fun,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: no fun. If the Patriots are eleven and six, Now
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: I take solace in them imploding because you're eleven and six,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: because the Jets imploded. You're eleven and six because you're
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: a lot better than people think. Do you understand what
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: the difference is? I want my team to be good,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: so it's secondary what happens to the other teams. I know,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 4: but that's the only d friends, Like, I'm not telling
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: you it wouldn't be great theater to watch Aaron Rodgers
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: fall in his face.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Of course, I want, first of all the Patriots to
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: be good. But but it doesn't.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it doesn't really provide me any entertainment if the
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: Patriots aren't good, right, whereas you will find that great
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: because you hate the Jets so much? Right, But isn't
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: like does that not accurate? It might, I'm not mischaracter.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: But it it takes, like I said, it takes the
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: luster off. It takes, it tarnishes the joy. If your
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: own team isn't good, you can't enjoy it as much
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: because like what do you now?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 4: Don't get me wrong. If the Patriots aren't very good
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 4: then they don't make the playoffs and the Jets end
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: up being really good and they make the playoffs, I
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: will be watching their first round playoff game and rooting
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: with everything that I have for the other team. I'm
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: not gonna again. I'm not being objective. I know people
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 4: think that I'm trying to be objected.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: No, I'm not.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: I'm not objective. I would root against whoever is I
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: would root against the Jets against whoever they were playing
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: in the playoffs because I don't like him.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Uh, let's see Dave writes in as much as I'd
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: like to see the Jets implode, I take more pleasure
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: in Miami being the bottom of the division. Here is
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: my two part question. One parts, you keep saying that
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: Cunningham played great against scrub backups. Didn't Zappy face the
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: same scrub team and look uninspiring?
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: No, No, he was Zaa played against the Stars, right,
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: But that's also not really doesn't have anything to do
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: with why I'm not convinced about Cunningham. I'm not convinced
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: about Cunningham because I haven't seen him take any reps
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: and really run an offense. Right he takes he takes
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: the snap and runs, or he does an RPO and
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: hands the ball off. Yeah, he doesn't throw.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 3: He's getting like leftover reps. And two like until I
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: see him put on that red non contact jersey. Really,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: it's like hard to take it seriously, Like it's just
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: it's not enough. It's not the same reps as Zappi
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: and mix, Worley and Mac obviously, and also I feel like,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: I don't even know if you would call it Miami imploding,
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 3: because it's a if Tua doesn't stay healthy, like I
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 3: don't know what they're gonna do. Yeah, Like he had
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: a lot of concussion issues among other things. So it's like, yeah,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: the chances of that happening again are very likely, unfortunately,
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: and so I feel like if any of the two,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: Miami probably Yeah.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: His second point is listening to Unfiltered, which is a
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: great show hooked on Pats and p and N. What's
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: p and N Patriots something? All seemed to be saying
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: the same thing. We look bad on the old line
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: wide receiver, quarterback secondary last year was too painful to repeat.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: How worried should we be? And side note, I'm still
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: upset that Belichick didn't take Zave Flowers when we had
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: the chance and desperately needed a wide receiver. By the way,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of video of him he loos, breaking
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: ankles and practice that could be one that got away.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: I was, you know, I saw some of that video
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: of him, and I thought back to that email that
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: we got on Tuesday about him, which I thought was
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: a really good email, Like how much better would you
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 4: feel if this was Zay Flowers in the because Zay
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: Flowers is tiny too. Yes, you know, and I think
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 4: he's right. I think part of the reason why you're
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: not like for me anyways, speaking for myself, I'm not
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: completely embracing the idea of the Mario Douglas is he's
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: a sixth round pick out of Liberty as opposed to
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: a first round pick. But really they they're very similar
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: kind of you know, bodies and skill sets. I mean,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: Zay Flowers can't be much more than five eight five,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: and that's what Douglas is.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: Alex.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: I think Douglas said he was one eighty two the
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: other day. He admitted to even though he's like one
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: ninety five on the roster or something like that.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: On the rookie wide receiver question, Alex says, why is
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: everyone forgetting Malcolm Mitchell rookie wide receiver won a title
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: with Brady.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we're looking for more than that. I
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: would be anyway. I think he was a complimentary piece.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know as a rookie, Like, yeah, I suppose
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: as a rookie the production could be the same. But
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 4: I think Malcolm Mitchell, I don't know, was he that impactful.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: Do you remember, I mean he had a couple of
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 4: big catches in the Super Bowl?
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Yep, I mean what, he probably had forty catches that year,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: forty five catches.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I mean, I guess, I guess it's
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 4: it's a similar one.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: I just and I think he could have been good
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: if he hadn't gotten hurt.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, you're probably right. That's probably another good
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: email that I am overlooking Malcolm Mitchell about. That's probably
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: another get.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Back to the phone's Gunner is in Maryland? What's up, Gunner?
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 15: Hey guys, how's it going?
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 15: So the question I have is, so, I know Malie
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 15: Cunningham is awesome and all that stuff, but I remember
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 15: Paul having a discussion before in a previous show, and
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 15: he's talking about Drew Brees and Taysom Hill. And I think, Paul,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 15: if I think you characterized this like, Okay, Trew Brees
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 15: is your quarterback, so why would you take him out
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 15: of the game put somebody else in who is not
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 15: as good as Drew Brees?
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: And so he used to drive me crazy watch my snub.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 15: But why would you? Why would you if if Mac
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 15: Jones is your quarterback, and he's our best quarterback, and
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 15: he's the starter, and it's his job to lose. Why
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 15: would you take him out of the game and give
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 15: snaps to somebody else who's obviously not good enough to
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 15: win the starting job.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well the only okay, go ahead, Paul Well, I
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 4: just would say he's absolutely characterized my thoughts perfectly. He
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: didn't put words in my mouth like so many others do.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: That's exactly how I feel now. To me, the big
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: difference is I felt that way because Drew Brees was
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 4: the quarterback. Now I could be I could tell you
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: that I'd be disappointed if Bill O'Brien feels like he
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: needs to use Malie Cunningham because that means to me
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: that Mac Jones isn't the guy like he isn't the
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: no questions asked guy. I always thought it was kind
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 4: of shortsighted on Sean Payton's part to do that with
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: Taysom Hill. Now he might the Patriots might need to
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: do that because they can't generate the same amount of offense. Yeah,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: and that would be disappointing for mac Jones. But to me,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: whatever you gotta do to to move the ball and
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: score points you got to do.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like and I agree. But you know the
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: reason why I would do it, whether it's Drew Brees
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: or Mac Jones, is I see something specific in this
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: game that I can exploit if I put you know,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: and even if it's just for a series.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would argue that with a guy like Drew
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: Brees or Tom Brady or Peyton Manning, I like the
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: things I'm exploiting with them better than.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, if I'm not going to take them out,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: but if i'm you know, you know how some of
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: these games get stuck in the mud a little bit
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: sometimes and neither to you know, I just want to
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: add a little you know, excite, you know, a jolt
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: to the offense, and I think I can exploit some
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: things that I'm seeing. Then I then I would do it.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: You know, then I would do it. Put him in there.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 15: Well, I think if you do that, it just shows
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 15: that there's a deficiency in your quarterback.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: I agree, well, there's a deficiency in your offense. And
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: then my case on that given day.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 4: Well, with a great quarterback on that given day. Yeah,
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 4: but I would agree with the premise that if you
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 4: have to do that, then you have probably limitations offensively, right.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 15: Well, and I'm a fan, so I don't have to
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 15: make any sense or I'll just go with my part.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 15: But that was so Paul loved this because Drew Brees
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 15: was or Drew Bledsoe was my guy to I love
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 15: that guy. And I was clamoring for Michael Bishop back
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 15: in the day when Drew was struggling a little bit.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: So you know, until until that Monday Night game in
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: week two of two thousand when Bishop came in the
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 4: game and did not do anything.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I'm exactly.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: I hated that, not surprisingly do you think that's why
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: you know, throwing Marcus Jones in that wrinkle was that,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 3: you know, because the offense wasn't able to do what
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: it's going to do.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that I remember that. I mean, Patriots weren't
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: doing much and then he came in and and and
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: did something Marcus Jones that day. But that's quarterback. But
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: but but here's where I go back to remember that
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: game against Miami here the Wildcat game. You know, now,
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: Miami's offense wasn't that great, but they brought in the
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: wildcat package and the Patriots had no answer for it.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: And the Miami won that game. You know, That's what
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 4: But Miami had no offense.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm Yeah. But in this you know Mac
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: Jones isn't you know.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: They don't see the difference between like Sean Payton and
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: the Saints that the highest scoring offenses. But you just
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: took away opportunity.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: But Gunner brought up Mac Jones, and I can absolutely
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: see with Jones it's different, right, I can absolutely see
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: games this season. I hope there aren't any, or if
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: there are few, that the Patriots have are struggling and
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: maybe just a different style might work.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: I agree with you.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: If you knew that, you know, an opponent's danks really
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: struggled with this type of quarterback, then you could right
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: playing ahead to use Cunningham.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it definitely worked that day against Miami.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: I remember it was so frustrating. It's like, just stop
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: the guy, and the Patriots could not stop, you know,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: their wildcat package. It was so frustrating.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: Right, No, I remember the day vividly, But that was
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: also two of the worst offensive games. That was Week
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: three that year is two thousand and eight. I remember
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 4: it vividly. Oh sure, I mean Chad Pennington was lousy
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: in the first two games. They couldn't do anything offensively,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 4: so that was totally out of desperation.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 3: I definitely wouldn't want to use like that as a
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: crutch the entire season, Like, Okay, we're not moving the
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: ball the whole first half, let's just use Cunningham. It's like,
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: you don't want to, like have it be your crutch
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: right now if it's like your game plan. You know
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 3: that opponent's defense cannot stop this type of offense. Sure,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 3: you know, throw it in there, let it be a wrinkle,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: but as a crutch, no.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 4: I am fascinated to see how Bill thinks about it, though.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 4: See you know, you know, we'll fast forward two weeks
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: or so, two and a half three weeks, find out
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: where Cunningham fits on the roster.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: All right, Paul's foods here. So we're gonna take a break.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: We're gonna have the show within a show. Have we
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: given a name to this show within a show yet?
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: I thought calling Matisa's hot takes Otis's hot takes, all right,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna do that, and then we'll be right
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: back after Matisa's hot takes.
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  Speaker 18: All right, guys, Matisse Bauman, here, we're trying something a
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 18: little new pretty much. We're gonna go over some unpopular
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 18: hot takes. And you know that's just now. As we said,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 18: this is learning, this is new for us, new for
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 18: the people listening. If there's something hot happening on Twitter,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 18: we'll break it down. Something in the NFL that the
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 18: guys in unfilter didn't talk about, we'll talk about it too,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 18: whatever we want. So once again, I'm Mattis Bowman. I'm
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 18: here with Dylan Ciderella and Faith Werel and let's just
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 18: run through some hot takes and see what happens. All right, right,
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 18: for this, we'll just start with We'll start with the
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 18: basic one. Is a hot dog a sandwich?
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 19: Technically it's meat in between two pieces of bread.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 20: So I think I agree with that meat in between
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 20: but so does that Does that make a burger sandwich too?
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 18: I say, no, a glizzy is a glizzy. That's a
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 18: separate thing for me. But all right, so you got
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 18: what do you classify it as. It's just it's its
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 18: own entity. It's its own entity, alright, That work.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 19: All the sandwiches in the world. And then there's just
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 19: a hot yeah, okay.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah that works for me.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 18: I don't know if you guys disagree. All right, run
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 18: through that one. All right, I've never heard this one before,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 18: so let me know what you think. Ravioli is a
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 18: wet pop tart.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 7: Oh gosh.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 6: I mean when you think.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 20: About it, it's like it's like the filling encased in something.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 6: But and then also, you can toast ravioli. You can toast,
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 6: you can you're toasted ravel like it's like fry. Yeah,
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 6: it's bomb. So it's pop tart.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 20: I would I don't know if I consider a pop tart.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 20: That means anything inside of something could be a pop tart.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 7: Cow zonet. No, I think I'm out on this lie.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 6: Alright, alright, alright, right here we go, here we go.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 6: Do you guys like the office, Yes, kind of? I
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 6: think it stinks.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 19: See, I've only seen like four episodes total, so I
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 19: didn't hate them.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 6: But there, why do you think it stinks?
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: What's wrong?
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 6: It's not for me. It's the dry humor.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 18: Like, listen a couple of clips I like, Like, I
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 18: think the Asian gym thing is hilarious, the the fire
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 18: drill I've seen Matt clip that's funny, But the rest
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 18: just doesn't.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 6: Have you watched the whole thing? No, because it's horrible.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 6: You got you have to give it a shot.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 7: I'm at least saying I've only seen a few episodes.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 7: I need to give it a shot.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 20: I've watched it many times, all the way through, and
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 20: I would do it again. I think it's hilarious. I
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 20: would have thought about getting Peacock specifically. Yeah, No, it's
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 20: not worth it. No, I think it is.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 6: No, it's probably my favorite show of all time. I
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 6: kind of feel like Switzerland over here, like a New
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: Girl better.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 7: New Girl is the best show.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 6: That's what everyone. Ransom is about New Girl Better. I
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 6: like Parks and rec I don't think it's better in
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 6: the Office. All right, all right, all right, well office
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 6: thinks of my but here we go, Here we go.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: This one.
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 18: I've never heard this this take before. I was pretty
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 18: upset by it. I have Chinese food is horrible.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 7: Oh absolutely not.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 6: That's all. That's wild, right, the worst, the worst take
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 6: all the time, thank you, or any other time of
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 6: the year.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: But I don't want to.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 6: I don't want to tick off Matt Morrell. Here we
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 6: have no no, no, no, no no no, this this
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 6: take we have Star Wars is horrible. So got an opinion? Uh.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 7: I love Marvel.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 19: I love Marvel so much, and I've tried to watch
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 19: Star Wars because I love Marvel and I figured I
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 19: would like the same thing.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 7: And every time I try to watch it, I fall asleep.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 6: Okay without Dylan.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 20: I I'm not the biggest Star Wars fan. I don't
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 20: watch a ton of movies, so like, I'm not into
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 20: the Marvel thing. I never really got into Star Wars
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 20: when I was younger. And it's like the like the
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 20: fantasy aspect I think of it. It's like like a
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 20: different world. I can't latch myself onto the.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 18: I think, if you don't like Star Wars, you just
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 18: got to grow up and have it, you know, like
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 18: it just like it just means you didn't have a childhood.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 6: That that's my thing.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 7: I did.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 20: I did other things besides watch Star Wars when I
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 20: was a child, Okay, that's fair.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 6: I played outside.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 18: Yeah, but Star Wars, Star Wars is Star Wars and
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 18: Star Wars, like, come on, we can't.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 6: Mess it is. It's like it's definitely generation.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 18: We got some guys upstairs that don't like it at all,
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 18: so yeah, I wouldn't go that far.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 7: I hate it, Yeah, I just haven't. Like every time I.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 19: Try to watch it, I ended up falling asleep. Now,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 19: Star Wars land in Disney World, amazing?
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 6: Have you done the TV shows? Mandel?
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 20: I watched some of Mando because a lot of my
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 20: friends are like big into it, so I watched with them,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 20: and I didn't think it was that bad. But it's
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 20: like for me, it was like its own separate series,
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 20: and I didn't. I haven't. I haven't seen any of those.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 18: You guys don't hate it though, I don't hate it, Okay,
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 18: just all right, I can see I see why people
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 18: like it. Okay, all right, I respect that this one's wild.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 18: I like, actually, LinkedIn is better. LinkedIn is better for
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 18: dating than Tinder.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 7: You know what?
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 20: If I could see it I've never heard that, and
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 20: I don't know I could see because you're like connecting
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 20: with all these new people.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: Seek help if your d I agree with that.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 7: It's like trying to look at someone's resume versus like
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 7: getting to know somebody else.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 19: Like I don't need to know like what you what
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 19: job you had in high school? Like at the first
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 19: Like I would rather get to know you versus.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 20: Like but if you look at their resume and that
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 20: you have like similar interests, you guys did similar things,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 20: maybe you'd like reach out and be like, hey, like
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 20: I know.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 19: All these profiles you can technically lie on, but like
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 19: how many linkedins are like one hundred percent accurate?
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 6: Isn't tender? Kind of just like networking, I mean you
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 6: meet with them job, if.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 18: You're using you're a professional LinkedIn account to slide into
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 18: people's d ms, Please seek health.
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 6: I do agree with that. All Right, what else I'm
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 6: going through you guys?
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 18: I literally have seventy fun controversial takes and all right,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 18: Adidas is the best sports brand.
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 7: Absolutely not Nike.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: Yep, I'm Nike. I'd probably Yeah, did you see out there?
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 6: Did you see the air? I did? I have not
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 6: seen that. I doubt so.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 18: Adidas used to run the game, but I think it's
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 18: completely flipped, oh for sure. For example, I think when
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 18: the NFL took over, it was taken over by Nike,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 18: completely changed it.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 19: Yeah, I mean, I just think Nike has so much
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 19: like streetwear that you can also have.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 7: Like I feel like when you wear.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 19: Adidas, it's just like, okay, that's Adidas, Like you just
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 19: see the three stripes every time, but like with Nike,
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 19: like they have more graphic t's and.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 20: Just like, yeah, I feel like there's a lot more
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 20: variety from Nike where Adidas when like, when I think
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 20: of Adidas, I think mainly soccer, Like yes, all right,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 20: because all like soccer jerseys are Adida's brain.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 6: I think my.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 18: Thing, my thing is I saw a meme a couple
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 18: of years ago. It just showed four basic shoes and
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 18: it had each logo on the same shoe, and the
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 18: Nike one was hands down the best. It just crazy,
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 18: how like your brain is used to Nike, like Nike
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 18: number one.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 6: I then go and like the.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 19: Dunks and Jordan's like all the different shoes you can have,
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 19: Like yeah, amazing.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 6: All right, all right? Only old people use Facebook mainly
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 6: old people use face.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 7: Old people and Southern people.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 6: Friends from South Carolina for those that don't know.
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 18: So all right, So it's funny because when I was
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 18: growing up, Facebook was was coming up, and that was
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 18: like the hot thing to use.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 6: I remember.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 20: Yeah, when I was growing up, it was like weird
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 20: if you had a Facebook and you.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 6: Weren't in high school yet.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 20: Okay, I remember, like my friends her my friend's sister
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 20: was just like, you have to stay on my Space
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 20: until you're in high school.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 18: See give me, Like, it's just weird. I use Facebook
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 18: now as a birthday reminder for people's birthdays. I don't know,
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 18: but like, if I go on there, it's a it's
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 18: a it's a war zone.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 19: I don't usually who from high school is engaged, who
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 19: from high school is pregnant? That's what you're usually seeing,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 19: I feel like on Facebook.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 18: All right, here we got another one. Everyone should solo
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 18: travel at least once in their life.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 6: Absolutely, I agree with that. Have you guys done it before?
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 6: And I'm not counting.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 18: I'm not counting like going to New York on your own,
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 18: which also that's weird.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 7: Too, but I have not, but I want to.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 18: I've done it once I've also done it once and
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 18: it's it's where did you go Ghana?
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: Okay, that's crazy by yourself.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 18: Yeah, well, well it was like a coaching thing, but
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 18: I went not knowing anybody, So I guess does that count.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 18: I didn't like solo travel the country.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 19: I feel like solo travel is like you go, everything
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 19: is just like you, whatever you want to do, and
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 19: you have.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 6: To have a plan. Let's just go. Just hop on
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 6: a plane, just pick pick your destination. And yeah, I
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 6: don't think I've done that.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 19: I feel like going to like Montana or Wyoming or
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 19: something will be fun alone.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 6: Just fly fishing. Well that's all I know.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 7: Little more like hiking. But I guess that's probably.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 6: The snowboarding out there, same thing.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 18: Hmm, all right, Faith, you can answer that the mullet
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 18: is actually a good hairstyle.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 7: I love the mullets.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 19: Yeah, personally, I think between like Morgan Wallen, I actually
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 19: know some women that have mullets that I think.
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 7: I think it's a good hairstyle.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 6: David Andrews.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 7: David Andrews, of course, you know what.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah, did somebody else in the team have it?
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 7: Didn't cold strange copy?
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, David Andrew Yeah, I respect it.
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 20: My brother saw David Andrews that like family day, He's like,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 20: I need my hair like that. He's you're really trying
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 20: to grow it out, but he's like, he's like a
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 20: country dude.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 7: So well, there you go.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 19: Yeah, you're also asking the one from South Carolina. So
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 19: I'm a big mullet fan.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: Dylan.
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  Speaker 18: It you're gonna hate me for this one. Beyonce's music
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 18: is overrated, faith.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 19: So I don't think she's overrated because I think she's iconic, but.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 7: I'm not the biggest Beyonce fans.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 20: Maybe I think she's a great artist and she has
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 20: a phenomenal voice, super talented.
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  Speaker 6: Definitely. I don't know if the whole like cult following
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 6: thing is necessary.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 7: I think with Taylor Swift, I'm a huge Taylor Swift and.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 18: It's like Taylor Swift's like, it's like, who's better between
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 18: those two?
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 7: I'm biased.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 19: I feel like i I've I grew up listening to
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 19: Taylor Swift and grew up listening to Dylan.
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: There you go.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 7: That's fair.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: That's fair. All right.
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  Speaker 1: Hot Takes and they talked about movies. I thought they
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: were going to talk about Patriots, but anyway, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: a it's something in development. You know.
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  Speaker 5: Eventually some of those hot takes they're crazy.
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  Speaker 1: They'll be giving away things eventually. Uh so that'll be
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: a reason to listen, other than, of course the hot takes.
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  Speaker 4: So I do have a question, Yeap, Matt, were you
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  Speaker 4: actually in your studio producing this as it was going
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  Speaker 4: on and you stayed in there while that talk was
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  Speaker 4: going on?
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  Speaker 5: No, I got on the air and said that's offensive
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  Speaker 4: Okay, because I can't believe you allowed the Marvel and
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 4: Star Wars talk.
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  Speaker 5: Like gave that a pass. It was the comparing ravioli
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 5: to pop darks, Well, that's just dumb.
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  Speaker 4: It's nothing even, I mean, yeah, there are two completely
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  Speaker 4: different foods, like I don't really there's nothing. They have
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  Speaker 4: nothing in common.
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  Speaker 1: Right except it's it's something they both wrapped around, wrapped
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: around something inside. Yeah and closed.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe if you have a dessert ravioli, they do make those.
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  Speaker 8: With pasta, they'll make it those stuff it with like
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 8: an apples cinnamon thing.
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  Speaker 4: A ravioli with pasta and an apple in.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 8: It, like apple cinnamon stuffing, almost like apple piees. It's
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 8: a dessert ravioli.
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  Speaker 7: Hmm huh.
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  Speaker 1: I never seen that before.
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  Speaker 4: I still think I've never heard of it.
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  Speaker 3: I still think the craziest hot take that I've heard
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 3: in this building is that macaroni cheese is overrated, and
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: that is.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 1: This offends you who said that at the podium. That's crazy,
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: Like that's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Macaronie cheese is.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: Not, I don't know, and cheese, listen, there's there's some
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: mac and cheese are better than others, you know, obviously,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: but mac and cheese overall, the concept of it not overrated.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: I think stovetop macaroni and cheese can be overrated, but
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: like you know, oven baked. Oh yeah, there's like they're
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 3: like incomparable. So if we're talking about like velveta mac
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 3: and cheese, sure like yeah, that's.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: Just maybe Judo has never been exposed to really good
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 1: mac and cheese. Maybe it could be all right. Web
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  Speaker 1: hundred disease taking a hotline. Eldred's in North Carolina. What's up, Eldred?
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  Speaker 16: Oh?
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  Speaker 9: Hey that cake? Yeah?
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: Beat them?
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 9: Do you want to one of the richest women and
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 9: uh heard a husband one of the richest couple and
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 9: Altiman wool she got is not underrated, none in the least.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 9: But it was funny though.
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: I liked it all right, good, good, But.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 9: My question is, okay, if Jack not Jones is out
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 9: and the secondary struggling, like we said against the packers,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 9: and I know y'all covered earlier, what do you think
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 9: Bill nixt move would be?
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: What say that again, Eldred?
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 9: Everybody's I'm driving okay, I'm okay. If Jones is out
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 9: for a while, and the secondary is struggling even though
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 9: you're getting rush whatever. And what do you think Bill
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 9: Knicks move would be if Jones don't come back.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 4: Or Jones hurt?
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think exactly, I think exactly.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 9: Trying to make Jones. I'm trying Jonathan Jones.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Jones.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 9: Oh, Jonathan Jones. Yeah, the corner. Yeah, Oh, it's about
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 9: the corners everything, the secondary.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 4: Jones and Jonathan Jones are out. What would the next
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 4: move be? I don't I don't know. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 4: you know, you're not going to just pick up a
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 4: guy that I mean.
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: You have to put. You have to put Myles Bryant
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: back at cornerback. You know, you'd have to move him
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: over probably and fill in, and you know, maybe you
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: bring somebody off, you know, out from the street. But yeah,
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: you're in trouble. I mean, you're hoping Christian Gonzalez is
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: playing well, but wherever you put Marcus Jones, it's gonna
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: be tough on him with the two of them out,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean you're in You're you're in some
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: trouble there.
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 9: You're gonna struggle attleit because it's Preston here. Yeah, he's
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 9: gonna struggle a bit, so yeah, I get him by
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 9: the eighth ninth game, real to pick it up a
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 9: little bit better. Yeah, okay, yea, I have a good one.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: Okay you thanks, all right, So we'll drop El eldred
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  Speaker 1: in on line two. Is Mike do So live from
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: joint practices in Green Bay. Hi, Mike, what's up?
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 9: Hey, guys.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 11: Good to talk to you.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: Hi. We got a lot of questions.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 4: Sounds like it's a lot better today than yesterday.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 11: Deuce, Yeah, it's definitely a lot better. Mac Jones just
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 11: capped off like the two minute drive of like a
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 11: forty yard bomb to Devonte Parker that just you know,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 11: set the whole sidelines, uh into hysterics.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: It was.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 11: It was pretty cool moment. I didn't I was mostly
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 11: with the defense earlier, but Evan told me that that
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 11: the offense had a really really great day. A lot
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 11: of a lot of touchdowns, h some nice throws by Mac.
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 11: But but that last one was just it was a beauty.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 11: I mean, you know, we've been where's the big plays?
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 11: Where's the big plays?
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 15: It was.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 11: It was a really nice pass by Mac and a
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 11: nice way to into practice. They're still going right now,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 11: but I figured i'd jump away just to kind of
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 11: get you guys the big bullet points.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: And from what you could tell, was that against Green
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: Bay's front defense, top defense.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, they were right into team period, so that
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 11: was basically two minutes drill. And you know they put
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 11: up on the clock twenty twenty one and got to
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 11: drive two minutes to score. So good, good day for
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 11: the offense. I did watch that period. Romander had a nice,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 11: nice catch, but but yeah, Parker, that bomb of Parker
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 11: was just a beauty. I mean, he just did right
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 11: down the sideline and nice, just a great catch.
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 1: How's everyone's favorite rookie receiver, Pop Douglas doing today?
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 11: Uh yeah, from what I heard, And then again I
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 11: was with the d but but he had a bunch
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 11: of catches in the early periods as well, so he
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 11: was definitely active. I did hear the Taekwon Thornton left.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 11: Didn't see I didn't see what happened to him. A
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 11: lot of fights though, and I wouldn't say fights, but
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 11: a lot of skirmishes.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: It sounds like there's a lot of fights on edge.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 11: Yeah, they were saying I wrote them down. His scuffles
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 11: but I think that I had four scuffles and nice.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: Well it's not a fight unless somebody got thrown out.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 11: That well, Anthony Jennings did get thrown out one I
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 11: did see. They were doing special teams and one of
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 11: the Packers players just like punched key On White in
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 11: the face, which God bless him. I mean, the guy
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 11: balls of steel on that one. But then I mean
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 11: then Jennings came running over and just laid the guy
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 11: out from behind. Even Bill was like he punched him
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 11: in the face.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: So I like him, you know, definitely good for Jennings.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 4: I think that your team, I totally.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: I know.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: People again get all upset. My god, there's fighting in
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: a football like.
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: I think that stuff is good, good, especially you you
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: punch a rookie, one of your rookies in the face.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: You come out as a veteran and you defend your rookie.
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 7: I like that, dudes.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 3: I have a question with it. Oh, I was gonna say,
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: I have a question on the secondary since you said
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: you're watching primarily the defense, you know, with John Jones
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 3: not there again, you know, what are they looking like?
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 11: Well, yesterday it was rough. I mean, I'm sure you
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 11: guys probably you know, read a little bit, you know,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 11: a couple of blown coverages by Christian Christian DAWs. I
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 11: gotta say Christian Watson is outstanding. I mean he's just
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 11: big and fast and you know, not DeVante Adams. But
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 11: but today was better. You know, he did get he
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 11: did give up. They could give up one touchdown. I
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 11: wouldn't put it specifically on Gonzales. Is kind of where
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 11: Watson kind of came out of a bunch set and
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 11: a red zone and it just kind of posted up.
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 11: I think it was like Kyle Dugger. But otherwise he's
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 11: been competitive. He had a real nice pass defense downfield
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 11: against Kavian Wicks. I believe it was who it was,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 11: So better day for a Gonzalez for sure. Marcus Jones
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 11: had an interception, was kind of deflected ball. He got
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 11: picked on a little bit, though. I think Dobbs beat
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 11: him once off the line pretty cleanly and walked in.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 11: So Green Bay did make their share of plays today.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 11: But overall, I think it was definitely a Patriots defense day,
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 11: not because the weird thing was not because of the
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 11: pressure though, And like to your question, like a lot
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 11: of good coverage and it was good to see impressed
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 11: by Jack Jones. He was really in the vicinity a
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 11: lot of a lot of pass breakups. I had him
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 11: down for two another one he was right there, kind
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 11: of just seemed like.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 4: So that's a good bounce back for him too.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 11: Then huh, yeah, I have a good day.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 9: Good day for him.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 11: I was kind of waiting for him to maybe pop
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 11: off too, but but he kept his calm and I
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 11: thought he had had a nice day.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 11: I circled him a few times, but but overall, good day.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 11: The only are the kind of bummer thing. Key On
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 11: White had a limp off the field. He didn't leave,
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 11: He was just kind of sitting off to the side.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 11: Looked like maybe a knee issue.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 4: For him, but he read kind of walking around.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 11: Didn't seem like he was limping. So he seems like
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 11: he might be, you know, avoided a major injury. But
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 11: you know, you can never know.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: So yesterday we heard that the Patriots front seven had
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: a good day. Did that continue today?
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 15: Well, that's the weird thing.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 6: Fred.
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 11: It was like it wasn't like oh, jude On and
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 11: Wise and you know, all these guys in the backfield.
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 11: It was it was more about coverage, and you know,
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 11: there were there were a couple of times where you know,
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 11: Jordan Love had to you know, had just had nothing
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 11: open and had to tuck it. And you know, I
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 11: think he's kind of sporadic. He certainly had some really
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 11: nice balls throughout the couple of days, but he also
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 11: just has some like you can't miss those kind of
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 11: throws too, So he was a little bit up and down.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 11: There was you know, particularly on I'm sure you know,
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 11: like the defensive portion of that two minute drill that
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 11: the Patriots finished off with the touchdown to Parker. The
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 11: Patriots also got off the field on third down and
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 11: prevented the score and part of that drill. But there
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 11: were a couple of plays where one up the scene
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 11: probably should have been completed. It started all of a
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 11: sudden raining for like five minutes, just pouring rain for
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 11: five minutes, and then stuff. But it looked like the Packers,
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 11: especially that happened kind of when they were on offense
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 11: and they struggled with some of just balls going through
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 11: their hands. It looked like it was slick. So I
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 11: think there's a little bit of a caveat to you know,
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 11: the defensive performance there at the end. But overall, they
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 11: really did have a good day.
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds good and.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 4: Nice bounce back, yecause it sounded like Green Bay had
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: the edge yesterday and sounds like the Patriots had the
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 4: edge today. So I think that probably both teams leave
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 4: that feeling good. You know, there was some things that
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: were good and there's some things that need working on.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 11: I mean, I don't want to make too much of
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 11: the last play, Mac, but you know it's just that's
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 11: like just what this team needs right now. And you
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 11: just could feel how excited everybody was by that play,
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 11: and especially where you know, after the fights and stuff,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 11: everybody was kind of jawing at each other, and there
• 1:38:07
  Speaker 11: was certainly a heightened tension to practice today that that
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 11: didn't really seem to exist yesterday. So it's just a
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 11: nice way to kind of cap it off. I know
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 11: they're probably going through the twos and threes right now,
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 11: but overall, it's been it's been a soliday for both
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 11: edges of the ball.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 4: So you real quick, Mike, when I know Tamara and
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 4: Fred are looking to get into but is this going
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 4: to extend the consecutive fights at joint practices that were
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 4: all the other team's fault streak according to the Patriots media.
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, oh, I don't know.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 4: Like yesterday I heard stories about Jack Jones chasing around
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 4: some rookie backup quarterback and yelling at him after he
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 4: gave up a bomb like that.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: That checks out.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 11: I got to be honest, though, I can't tell who
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 11: initiated them. I mean it's like, you know, all of
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 11: a sudden, like the whistles start that everybody kind of
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 11: goes in the middle. We're trying to like look in
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 11: between guys on the sideline. I would just say the
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 11: only one I knew for sure.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that one sounds pretty Yeah. The Packers guy that
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 4: punched key On White, That sounds pretty obvious.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. All the other teams are, you know, middle of
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: the line.
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 11: It's bar More Peppers.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: You know those peppers in a fight.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 11: Come on, he was chirping them the whole practice. I
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 11: mean peppers.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 9: I know.
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 11: Look, I know I'm a Peppers guy. Maybe I would
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 11: have maybe liked a little bit toned down, but the
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 11: whole day today, I mean they you know, their third
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 11: stringers were in and the Patriots defense is dominated in
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 11: the third string reps. For whatever it's worth, not much,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 11: but every time Peppers would be like back, you just
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 11: be screaming at himself. So he's funny. I mean, he's
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 11: just he's cracking me up for bringing the energy. But
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 11: but overall, yeah, no, Barmore was definitely in the midst
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 11: of it. And and I could tell early on with
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 11: some of the scrums that Jennings was like ready to go,
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 11: Like the second he was on the sideline and he
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 11: saw them, you know, starting to go out it in
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 11: the middle of shild he was like itch and ago.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 11: You could tell they had they had to hold him back.
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 11: But but you know, overall, I think it's just like
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 11: you said, Paul, it's been fighting football a little bit,
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 11: you know here that second day, a little bad blood
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 11: and they got over it, and I think they got
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 11: some productive working after they got through those you know,
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 11: initial scrum.
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, within reason.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: I like that. How's how are the facilities.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 11: Oh well, I mean it's uh, it's been pretty cool
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 11: just seeing that. You know, I walked over to Lambeau.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 11: I didn't do the tour or anything, but but but
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 11: they're nice. They got two fields that are like you know,
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 11: separated by a really big, nice indoor facility, so you know,
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 11: good crowd, you know, the number of Patriots fans that
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 11: have come out and you know, waving flags and all
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 11: that kind of stuff. So that was, you know, cool
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 11: to see, but uh but really nice seating. I mean
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 11: they were able to really accommodate a lot of fans here,
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 11: and uh, I just I think one of the coolest
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 11: things was was yesterday. You know, so you're the two
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 11: teams are on the opposite field, so you don't even
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 11: really realize that the pack is here and we're on
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 11: the backside right near where where where Lamba is and
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 11: so we're warming up, you know, it's like usual drills.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 11: There wasn't really any music yesterday, and like okay, they're
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 11: like all right, let's go to the other side. So
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 11: everybody just starts to walk over, and I mean we
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 11: literally walk onto the other field the Packers. I mean
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 11: it's packed with fans and the Packers are just out
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 11: there with with their two units on the two different fields,
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 11: just waiting with their eleven guys on defense, like okay,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 11: here we go, Like can you just walk right over
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 11: right into it? And there you go. So it was
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 11: kind of cool, like just to see all of a sudden,
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 11: the energy just goes through the loops.
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is kind of I think I.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 11: Texted, I texted Morale. They just they play music the
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 11: whole time.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 1: It's like going it's like going down the block to
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: play the other kids, you know.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 11: Right what it was like they're just sitting there waiting
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 11: on the field, like eleven guys sitting like come on.
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 11: So so that was kind of cool.
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: How about everybody behaving themselves? Are we okay?
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: You can you can ask him that offline?
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 11: What I would I would hint it something if there
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 11: was anything, but no, it's been a it's been a
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 11: low key trip.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 4: Everything's been hid.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, back to more important questions football. I mean, if
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: you weren't ask anything off the field, you could ask him,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 3: has he tried tried a cheese? Like, yeah, you're asking
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 3: if everyone's behaving, just that.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 11: He's the boss man.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 3: Do any special teams work?
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 11: I I kind of like usually when the special teams
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 11: what happen? Because me and Evan would be at opposite
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 11: ends and they have like it's not field lined up
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 11: with each other, but it's probably like one and two
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 11: thirds of field. So Evan was down with the offense.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 11: I was down a defense. So it's like as soon
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 11: as those periods ended and they're like, okay, Punt, I
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 11: just go running down to Evan and be like, I
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 11: have no idea what's going on on? Off I show
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 11: me and what's going on? So I I but my
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 11: my quick observations is I was kind of doing that
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 11: was yesterday it looked like Berenger bossed a couple of them.
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 9: It just didn't look good. Today.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 11: Looked a little bit better, but really windy and gusty
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 11: here today, so that affected it. But Devin, I'm sure
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 11: they're probably doing field goals now, so I'm missing those.
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 11: But overall kind of kind of tough to tell, uh
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 11: from what from where?
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: I was all right, well, I'll be there tomorrow, so
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: I expect the King's welcome.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, I have one more. I have one more quick
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 4: one before we let you go. Do attendance Wise, peerre
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 4: Strong hasn't been practicing correct?
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: Correct?
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 4: Is he there?
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: Do you know?
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 14: No?
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 11: I haven't haven't seen him. He wasn't here yesterday, I
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 11: wasn't here today.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 4: I have a developing take on Pierre Strong. I'll fill
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 4: you when you get back.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 9: I look forward to that.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 11: Connor McDermott though was the one who left practice yesterday
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 11: and was not here today. So I also saw I
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 11: think Jake Andrews left from the offensive end of the field.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 11: So two injuries key on White one will definitely be
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 11: uh one to monitor, although I feel like just shut
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 11: him down, get him ready for the So I.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: Have one final question, like from the reports yesterday, depending
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 1: on who you read, the different things happen, Barring yourself
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: and Evan, do you if you read all the other people,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: who was the most accurate from what they wrote what
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 1: happened yesterday?
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 11: Well, I mean I was I was taken back by
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 11: some of the stats people because I just have no idea,
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 11: given this set up, how anyone could possibly track the
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 11: stats here. But uh, but you know, I kind of
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 11: liked what Badar did at the top of his right
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 11: up where he was just like and this what he said.
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 11: He's like, I don't know. Some of the big plays
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 11: might have been stacked, some of the plays that were
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 11: ruled out of bounds booked in bounds. There was one
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 11: big play that I saw that the Packers had it
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 11: that I clearly saw the ref ruling incomplete, and the
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 11: Packers celebrated like they just won the Super Bowl. So
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 11: I just think any any report you're getting out of
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 11: this needs to be taken, you know, with definitely a
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 11: grain of.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: Salt, even especially yours, No, especially mine.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 11: I'm not even watching it. I'm just sitting here at Lambeau.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 11: But you know, it's it's we're all kind of helping
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 11: each other and you know, talking and trying to fill
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 11: in the blanks. But I think there's a lot of
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 11: blanks for everybody, and especially just because no one could
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 11: watch offense and defense at the seam.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 4: Well, everybody that I read insisted that DeVante Parker was
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 4: in bounds on a touchdown catch that the referees ruled
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 4: out of bounds that they said they didn't he didn't
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 4: hold out of the ball, and then their proof was
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 4: they asked Parker afterwards and he said, oh, okay.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 11: Yeah, but I mean I did see the other one
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 11: that looked like I saw the ref going incomplete, and
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 11: you know, and then they celebrated so hard to stay.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 11: But I would say, overall, you know, they've done some
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 11: good things on both sides of the ball these two days.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 11: I think it was valuable. A lot of guys got work,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 11: and I think there's good stuff to take away barring,
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 11: you know, a key on white injury, which I think
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 11: everybody would like to avoid at this point.
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 3: About the Taekwon injury, I think that was that was when.
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 11: I didn't see either. He left the field during the
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 11: early period, So so I'm not sure exactly what that was,
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 11: but we'll try to find out.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: It was yesterday's practice forty five minutes or three hours,
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: because we've heard anything in between.
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 4: People couldn't even agree on that.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 11: Mike, Sorry, I lost you guys there.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 4: People couldn't even agree on how long the practice was yesterday.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 4: Mike Reeses, I think had the two hours twenty seven minutes.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 4: I saw other people say over three hours.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 11: I mean they were supposed to stop at twelve thirty.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 11: They went till one, you know, So so it was
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 11: it was at least two and a half to three hours.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 4: That's a half hour longer than they were supposed to
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 4: go to two and a half hours.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 11: Yeah, so it's still pretty relentless, though. I mean, it
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 11: was just you know, I mean eleven on eleven, rep
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 11: after rep after rep, you know, and then they I mean,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 11: it's just it's overwhelming how much is going on on
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 11: both ends of the field, so it certainly felt more
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 11: than three hours. I have built up like four pages
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 11: of my notebook.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 4: But we've definitely seen that enjoint practices in the past.
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they get going and like, let's not stop.
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 4: It takes more time, it takes more.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: Time, but they do more, you know, I think as
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: it becomes more productive than the preseason game.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 11: You know, Oh, I think it's it's so true, and
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 11: I mean it's just, I mean, it's so obvious how
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 11: they break it down to where it's you know, they
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 11: start with all first down work, first down, first down,
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 11: first down. Then they you know, moved to the middle
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 11: of the fields and they do you know, first down,
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 11: second down. They've got you know, the chains out and everything.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 11: Then it's red zone and then it's two minutes it
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 11: and you know, so it's it's no real mystery as
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 11: to what the setup is. But they just blast through
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 11: so many plays it's hard to keep track of it.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 19: All.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 1: All right, dudes, we'll let you get back to it.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: I know you've got a lot of work to do
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: once practice ends. So thanks for calling in.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 4: Mike.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: Will see you Saturday and I will see you tomorrow,
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 1: So be prepared yeah, all right.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 4: You and Michael be ship's passing in the night.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: Oh that's right, you're leaving. Yeah, you're coming back to
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 1: do the show. Yeah.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 11: Well, right now it looks like I'm going to be
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 11: in Chicago for a couple of hours.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 1: That well, I know, I got to go through there
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: in the way.
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 3: Also, never connect through Chicago, guys, come on, that's the
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 3: worst airport.
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: Not a lot of options. Yeah, I mean it's either
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 1: Detroit or Chicago.
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 7: Detroit.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 3: Never do Chicago.
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: I'm doing Detroit on the way.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 3: Trust me, been there, done that, got a T shirt,
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 3: key chain, and hat.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: Don't do it.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 3: That used to be my home base. It's so bad.
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: The good thing is I have a really early flight,
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: so usually the later flights are the ones that get delayed.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 3: But both of those airports, you're always going to be killed.
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 4: They called the.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: Black hole because you go in, you don't come out.
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 4: I just think we don't have to get into that.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 4: Maybe that's a topic for Matisa's Worst Airport. Well, just
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 4: the state of air travel right now.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: It's off.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know why.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 1: We're painting through the nose and they treat us like animals.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 4: You know, no flight can get anywhere on and.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: Then the behavior that people don't make it any better.
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: People just impolite, you know, just it's awful.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 3: I had this one flight I was on recently where
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: we're on the plane and the guys yelling at the
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 3: flight attendant for how long they're taking to get the
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: bags on the plane and telling her how they should
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 3: be getting the bags on the plane quicker and when
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 3: they should have. Yeah, it was crazy, and she was just.
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: Like, what's she going to do?
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 3: She's on the plane with you, what is she going
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 3: to do?
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 7: It was absurd.
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: Now, listen, I understand people get frustrated. You know, I've
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: been there, but there's nothing they can do exactly. You know, Yeah,
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: flight travel is.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 4: There's nothing that the crew can do, but there's something
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 4: the airlines can do. It doesn't have to be every
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 4: flight every other flight's getting canceled or a delay.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: I believe there should be a passenger's bill of rights
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: that you know, we have rights, but then an agreement
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: that passengers sign a behavior sort of like you know
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: your parents at your youth sports.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I get that, and I think the behavior is
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 4: a lot of times ridiculously bad, and I just wonder
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 4: what comes first?
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 4: Is it being treated like this like time and time again,
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 4: it's not cheap to travel and it's not efficient to travel,
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 4: Like what is in it for the passenger?
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: Here's something that kind of irked me the other day.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: I'm on X and it was a writer and she
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: was traveling and she's like, I just can't believe the
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: amount of people traveling that don't have TSA pre check,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 1: you know, in this thing. Why would anyone not have that?
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: And I'm thinking of so, lady, you're probably looking at
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of people who this is their one and
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: only flight this year, Like not everyone's like you where
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: they're flying.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 4: And if you have it, why would you care other
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 4: people that don't.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: Right, Because if everybody has it, then it does it's.
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 4: Only making it worse for you, Right.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: But like most people that you're looking at prop that
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: don't have TSA, this is probably their one flight a year,
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: you know, So like do you have it? Friend? I
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 1: just got it.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 4: I don't have it.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: I just got it. Yeah, But like you know anyway, yeah.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 4: I mean, knock on wood. That's one of the very
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 4: few things I've never really had a problem with is
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 4: going through the security, the check.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 3: I only got it because of the airports that I
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 3: consistently fly in and out of. Atlanta Airport is a nightmare.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 3: Like and without it, you wait in that line.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, it's definitely worth having. You should. If you fly
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: a few times a year, you should get it. You
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: should get it.
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 3: But for certain like if you live in Providence, for example,
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 3: you probably don't need it, like I show up to
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 3: the airport ten minutes before my flight boards. Yeah, it's fine,
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 3: but it depends on where you live, I think.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. All right, back to the phones, we'll go to
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 1: Paul and Vancouver. What's up? Paul, Hey, Fred? How you
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 1: do good? I'm trouble a lot of problems today.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 11: The hell that segment was there earlier had on? Oh
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 11: that I've been listening for a long time, and I
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 11: would say.
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 1: That's I think this is Matt cutting him off on purpose.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: All right, Paul, callback John's and Duxbury. What's up, John, gentlemen,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: lady good Hey John.
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 11: Hi, listen. Since that boutet coming on and and cuming
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 11: in as flash, what are the chances, uh, do you
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 11: think of getting them through waivers onto the onto the
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 11: practice squad.
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: I think I think that'll be Okay. I mean a
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: lot of most teams are they've got their depth at receiver,
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 1: you know, and boutet that much better than another team's
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 1: fourth receiver, where.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 4: I would worry more about Booty than I would counting him.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 4: But yeah, there's there's always a risk. And Bill says
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 4: this all the time. Anytime you cut a guy, you
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 4: have to be prepared that you're gonna lose him. So
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 4: we've seen guys, you know, get claimed off waivers that
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 4: they tried to get to the practice squad many times,
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 4: and there's a chance that they could lose both of
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 4: those guys if they try to do that. Booty, I
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 4: would say, just because I think teams are always looking
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: for depth at various positions. I think quarterback is a
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 4: little bit different now. If he plays more in these
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 4: preseason games and flashes, you know, more than he did
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 4: even against Houston, then that might change it. Right now,
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 4: I have reasonable confidence though that you could get him through,
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 4: but not easy.
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 1: You get a hope, yeah, Joe and Warick, New York
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 1: says a Pats fan for sixty years can't stand the Jets.
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 1: Two scenarios. Would you like the Patriots to get eleven wins?
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: In an early exit from the playoffs, but the Jets
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: make it to the super Bowl, or the Patriots get
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: seven wins but the Jets implode and get five wins.
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: I'll take the seven wins in five.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 4: You're out of your mind. Yeah, I'll take eleven wins.
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: I would not be able to stomach the Jets getting
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: to the super Bowl.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 4: So even if they get there and get it, you
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 4: hate the Jets more than you like the Patriots. I
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 4: like the Patriots more than.
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 1: I I hate the Jets more than se I hate
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: the Jets more than an early exit in the playoffs.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would rather win eleven games and be on
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 4: my way to getting back into contention here. I'd be
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 4: disappointed the Patriots lost their first playoff game after winning
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 4: eleven games, but I would at least have hope for
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 4: the future. What was the second scenario, winning six or
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 4: seven games? Yeah, now I need a new quarterback next year.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 4: I'd probably need a new coach next year.
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not necessarily. It could have been because of injuries
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 1: or whatever. But to put the Jets in the trash
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: heap just solves one problem that we have.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 4: That's not a problem for me, though. I'm a Patriots fan.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 4: So the Jets is not a problem for me.
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: It might be this year for you.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 4: It is you hate the Jets more than you like
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 4: the Patriots were separated.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: So far, the reviews are in on the show within
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: a show. Not good so far really yeah, not good.
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 3: Well I'm a good review from Chris Gogelos. He said
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 3: he enjoyed it.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, don't hate the pilot. Okay, no, no listen. If
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: if you went by the pilot, Seinfeld would have never continued.
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 4: So I saw our buddy Chris Gogelos the other night
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 4: at the Games.
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, shooting for NFL Films. The Trader.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 3: I think he's listening to the show right now, Trader.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 4: Go go sorrow Mine in the tunnel.
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 1: No, I'm only kidding. Do some part time work for them.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 1: That'd be good for him.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 4: It sounds like you're really happy.
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: For Travis says he'd rather listen to commercials than that segment. Wow. Wow,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: it's too bad.
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna have to listen to the next one because
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 4: I only caught a couple of the topics.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: I didn't really, it'll be better when we're getting really
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: hit away, when we're giving stuff away. You know, still
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: not really sure what it's for people.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know what taking away the focus?
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: Why are we doing that, Matt? Why are we doing
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: the show within the show?
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 5: We don't run ten minutes of commercials anymore.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 4: Oh, but we don't need to run ten minutes of commercials.
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 4: You can shoot it to whatever you need to shoot
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 4: it to.
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: Now we have to eat, Paul, Fred, you.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 4: Eat in thirty seconds. Not it's the rest of Tamara,
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 4: so she can finish the rest for you.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: No, we need we need some point, some kind of
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: break so we can eat, and if we can entertain
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 1: during that break rather than just you know, the same
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: Bank of America commercial, No disrespect to the Bank of America,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: but you know, the same commercial over and over again.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: I think that's why I don't think.
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 4: You need to run you know, eight or ten minutes
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 4: of commercial But I know Matt does that, so he
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 4: allows us for a time. But they don't need that.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: But so this case, maybe we can do something that
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: people like. So well, it's a work in progress. It's
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: a work in progress.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 4: It's just taking away to focus from me and you. Fred,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 4: I don't like that.
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: No, we gives us a chance to eat Paul for crying, Oh,
• 1:55:59
  Speaker 1: I'm eat either way. So I don't, especially with the cameras. Now,
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: you know, you get food out and nobody wants to
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: look at that or half eaten sandwich.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 4: So the solution to that is put the cameras away.
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 4: No one wants to look at this.
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: Either, I know, but people want the cameras.
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 4: I don't really think they do.
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: No, We've had many people saying, you know, we hope
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: that all the shows are on YouTube.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 4: It's kind of like Twitter followers. It's the same twelve people.
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: Oh is that right? You think so could be a
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: vocal minority.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 4: I just don't know anyone who likes watching radio on TV.
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: I when I'm home, I don't mind watching The Felger
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: Show on TV.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't watch it. I put it on as
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 4: white noise in the background, but I'm not watching.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: But every once in a while you look up.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 3: Veronica said that her dad watches, like physically watches it
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 3: at home as our show. Osha, god literally our show.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: Bless him.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 3: She walked in. He was watching one from like two
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 3: days ago.
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and Veronica was like, shut that off. I see
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 4: enough of those morons.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think, But like I said, I I
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 1: will watch the Felger Show.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not saying I've never put it on, but
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't actively watch it.
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: It's my point. Well, it's not good, but it's not crazy.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 4: But it's not good TV. It's not a good viewing experience.
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 4: It's a studio just like this right now. Like I
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 4: know that's not good. I'm looking at myself right now.
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: But you know, you see the reactions, you see their faces.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 3: I will say certain reactions, especially from Paul, like they're
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 3: good to see it.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 4: That's why I don't like the cameras well.
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: I mean when Paul and I get into one of our.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 3: Like last show, if the cameras were on, its amazing.
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  Speaker 4: When I almost snuffed when he said the thing about
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  Speaker 4: hating the Jets and I almost had the diagraptic come
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  Speaker 4: out my nose.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll get there, we'll get there. Work in progress,
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  Speaker 1: and I think what we're working on, man, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to get we're going to have all the shows
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  Speaker 1: on video, not just Thursday. Right, yeah, thumbs up.
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  Speaker 4: So we're going in the wrong direct.
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday all video, all video. So okay, Yeah, noted,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta yeah, you're gonna have to get all dolled
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  Speaker 1: up and everything, you know.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Paul's like, no, that's bad, Paul.
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  Speaker 1: You're gonna have to get dolled up too. This is
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  Speaker 1: as dolls as it gets. Yeah, all right, well that's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be it, boys and girls for this edition. So
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  Speaker 1: a good day too, Patriots and Green Bay. That all
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  Speaker 1: accounts very fortnighted going into the preseason game on Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: Pregame show four thirty, five thirty to seven thirty.
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  Speaker 3: Correct, Wait, but before that, you can wait, wait, catch
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  Speaker 3: twenty two today between five and six.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I thought I thought they were doing that on Friday.
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  Speaker 3: Doing it today, Yeah, today from five to six okay.
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  Speaker 1: And that'll be on camera, Matt. Okay, you seem thrilled.
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  Speaker 1: So catch twenty two today five to six. Uh, pregame
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  Speaker 1: Social five thirty to seven thirty on Saturday, then the
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