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Capítulo 033: The Kat Call · Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela]

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Speaker 1: Radio radio Radio. He's a myth and bullshit radio phonic novella.
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Speaker 1: Local Radio hosted by Malamo Olalla. Welcome back to local Radio.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back Local motives. This is Mala and this is
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Speaker 1: Diosa and we are last locals. Thank you so much
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Speaker 1: for tuning in once again to Yes, thank you for
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Speaker 1: tuning into thirty three. Um. Just to remind folks and
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Speaker 1: any new listeners, Local Radio is a podcast archiving the
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Speaker 1: brilliance and legacies of women and fans of color. Oh yes,
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Speaker 1: we are, thank you for being here. It's such a
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Speaker 1: beautiful day Radio and boil Heights. I mean it's raining
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Speaker 1: and it's gloomy, but it's still a beautiful day. We're
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Speaker 1: here and we're joined by but we're joined by a
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Speaker 1: lovely human. Hey, what's up. Thank you so much for
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Speaker 1: having me. Yes, we have the uncomparable cat Lozo in
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Speaker 1: the building. Yes, I love that. I'm going to use
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Speaker 1: that in my bio. Yes you can steal that if
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Speaker 1: you like. Yes, okay, so we have a really exciting
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Speaker 1: interview ready for y'all. But before that, we always like
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Speaker 1: to do some little housekeeping recap, do all those fun things. Um.
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Speaker 1: So recently we released our episode thirty two with Bella Donna,
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Speaker 1: Yea and Italia from Bella Donna. Thank you for folks
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Speaker 1: that have listened for the feedback. It's been really interesting
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Speaker 1: to see books engage and to talk with us positive
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Speaker 1: or negative. Like. Feedback is always really good, especially since
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Speaker 1: that interview is very different from anything we've done before.
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Speaker 1: Very different. I think in the past, our caps have
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Speaker 1: been more us just discussing topics and our guests have
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Speaker 1: been talking about their projects and things like that, but
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Speaker 1: we haven't addressed like a controversy, right, We haven't addressed
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Speaker 1: really like an intra community like issue that's actually going on,
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Speaker 1: like in real life, like in our actual community with
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Speaker 1: actually you know what I mean. So it was it
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Speaker 1: was a difficult interview I think for us to approach. Yes,
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Speaker 1: it was um and I just wanted to be clear
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Speaker 1: that for folks that have tuned in like and folks
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Speaker 1: that like just don't want to listen because of the
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Speaker 1: interviews with Belladonna, because that is what someone has actually said.
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Speaker 1: We've got several comments like, oh, I'm not going to
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Speaker 1: pay attention to anything Belladonna. Meanwhile, like commenting multiple times
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Speaker 1: right right, right, right, but not wanting to listen exactly.
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Speaker 1: But so if you did listen and you're listening now,
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to be known that, like the tumbler
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Speaker 1: post that's circulated, like, yes, that behavior was problematic, and
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Speaker 1: the way that no one has ever denied that. We
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Speaker 1: have never denied that. The point of the interview is
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Speaker 1: that we cannot just cut people off that are in
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Speaker 1: our community and that are still creating, and that we
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Speaker 1: have to allow people to grow and do better, which
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Speaker 1: is the point of the interview, not that what has
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Speaker 1: been done wasn't problematic, but that people can actually change
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Speaker 1: and we can you know, reconstruct stuff. In addition, it's like, look, um,
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Speaker 1: if you don't want to funk with them, then don't
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Speaker 1: funk with them. You don't have to support them, you
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Speaker 1: don't have to follow them, you don't have to give
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Speaker 1: them your money, you know, like lots of us do
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Speaker 1: not give our businesses to organizations, corporations, brands that we
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Speaker 1: don't like that we that we find problematic. Right, But
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Speaker 1: remember like not working with somebody and not supporting them
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Speaker 1: is not the same thing as intentionally and viciously like
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Speaker 1: attacking them, you know, and and threats. It's not nowhere.
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Speaker 1: Nowhere did we say like, oh, the call out wasn't constructive.
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Speaker 1: We were saying that the types of comments were not productive, right,
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Speaker 1: So I just want that distinction to be made because
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Speaker 1: that's really important. Were never like, oh, yes they never
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Speaker 1: did anything wrong. No, we all funk up, we all
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Speaker 1: make mistakes, right, So I just want that to be
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Speaker 1: to be put out there. Yeah, and I think also
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Speaker 1: call out versus drag. Yes, yes, we weren't saying don't
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Speaker 1: call them out, don't drag them, don't send women death threats.
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Speaker 1: Keep in mind, if you're initiating a drag, you can't
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Speaker 1: control it and where it goes and what it becomes.
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Speaker 1: You can't control how other people are going to participate
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Speaker 1: and jump into it, and if you know, just keep
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Speaker 1: that in mind that it gets ugly and maybe that
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Speaker 1: wasn't your intention, but that's what ends up happening, right,
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Speaker 1: And anything on the Internet, once it's out there, like
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Speaker 1: anything goes right. So I always keep that in mind,
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Speaker 1: all right. So on top of you know, different topics
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Speaker 1: from new topic, new topic, if we want to recap
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Speaker 1: on gumbieton it was so much fun. It was so
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Speaker 1: much fun. Let's talk about I did I've been quiet.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, am I supposed to know? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: It was, it was list it was lit. I am
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Speaker 1: half Columbian, so I appreciated the Kumba. Yes, and there
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Speaker 1: was a Colombian Cumbia group last night and she killed it.
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Speaker 1: She was solled that I had heard of her in
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Speaker 1: her band, but I had never seen her live and
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Speaker 1: she was so good. And she's from up north. Yes,
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Speaker 1: she's from Oakland. She's from Oakland, I believe. I'm sorry
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Speaker 1: if we're mistakes, but she is from the Bay. M Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and was a lot of fun. We were the femcis
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Speaker 1: for the evening and both of you did an amazing
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Speaker 1: job and a comparable job. Random applause, thank you, thank you,
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Speaker 1: we do we do um and Yeah, the party was good,
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Speaker 1: the vibes were good. We met some listeners, we met
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Speaker 1: him the listeners, and there were people's fun came up
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Speaker 1: from San Diego and I think some people came from
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Speaker 1: In addition to the artists that came from the Bay,
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Speaker 1: there were party people that came from the Bay to
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Speaker 1: come hang out. It was at Civic Center, Students. We
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Speaker 1: want to shout out DJ Sizzel fantastic and collective for
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Speaker 1: putting on such an amazing, amazing nights and for inviting
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Speaker 1: us to be a part of it. It was a
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Speaker 1: lot of fun. It was a lot of fun. And
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Speaker 1: it was also in celebration of International Women's Day and
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Speaker 1: International Women's Months. Um So, yeah, just a night to
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Speaker 1: celebrate women and fems and always really, I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: always a celebration. We don't need a reason, we don't
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Speaker 1: need an occasion. No, we do not to celebrate ourselves. No,
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Speaker 1: you don't have to tell me twice. And then the
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Speaker 1: other exciting thing that was going on yesterday and that's
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Speaker 1: been going on, is that we all grow summits. Do
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Speaker 1: you want to tell us about it? Or you weren't there?
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Speaker 1: Never mind that was you was also here those who
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Speaker 1: can't see right behind Raquel, Riquel went, maybe Riquel will
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Speaker 1: tell us about it later she wants to, but Cat's
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Speaker 1: here for her own. I'm very delirious, you guys right now.
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Speaker 1: I mean I saw the event via Instagram and social
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Speaker 1: and it looked amazing. It looks so beautiful. It looked
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Speaker 1: like so many amazing women were, you know, working together.
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Speaker 1: I was very jealous that I was not there some
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Speaker 1: amazing panels. So same we could not make it due
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Speaker 1: to work. Thing we really wanted to next year they
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Speaker 1: make us go to work. It's horrible. Capitalism is terrible.
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Speaker 1: I know there's so mean, but yeah, so so Cat. Yes, Cat,
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Speaker 1: you're back in l A. A A full disclosure. The last
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Speaker 1: time Cat was in l A, we tried to record
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Speaker 1: with her and we sucked up the recording. This this
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Speaker 1: is take to I'm just saying. I'm just saying this
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Speaker 1: is transparency is important behind the scenes. We're learning as
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Speaker 1: we go, so we're trying again. Thank you for being here, absolutely,
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Speaker 1: And I'm also excited because when we did the when
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Speaker 1: we tried to do the interview was like a very
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Speaker 1: short like ten minutes, like a mini So it's not
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Speaker 1: really happy that we get to actually sit down and
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Speaker 1: have a full length look at this. A couple of
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Speaker 1: months and I get like a full episode and we
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Speaker 1: brunched recently. I just want a whole new like mommy friendship.
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Speaker 1: Can we talk about we sure can? I'm down to
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Speaker 1: talk about brunch. Where do we start? What do we
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Speaker 1: talk about first? With Cat? What do you want to
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Speaker 1: talk about first? I want to talk about everyone who
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Speaker 1: came in my d MS watching you dance, who were
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Speaker 1: just like in all of you. Who was like, who
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Speaker 1: is this? Who is this crew that you're rolling with?
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Speaker 1: I'm like, yes, stay jealous. From brunch the brunch, there
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Speaker 1: was a lot of There are a lot of video
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Speaker 1: circulating of my lad that day we took over the restaurant.
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Speaker 1: And the thing is it wasn't a bar, it was
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Speaker 1: a restaurant and people. It was amazing, amazing we took
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Speaker 1: over day. We actually took over. Yeah, it was a
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Speaker 1: scalt and Kay town and we just the bottomless I
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Speaker 1: need at least great food. By the way, who it
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Speaker 1: was delicious, but I think we need a couple of
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Speaker 1: months before we can go back. I need a diskuy.
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Speaker 1: I'm down. This weekend, I was on my best behavior.
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Speaker 1: You were. I was maybe like I was doing good.
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Speaker 1: You absolutely were. I don't know, you want to know why,
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Speaker 1: because I actually I wanted to keep doing stuff and
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Speaker 1: you know, when you brunch, that's kind of it, like
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Speaker 1: you know you're not going to do anything the rest
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Speaker 1: of the day. So I was like, no, like I
9:18
Speaker 1: have to drink water adult, right, I was like at
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Speaker 1: a grocery shop, I have to fucking meal prep. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I know I was a little boring, but it's okay
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Speaker 1: next time. But you're behave. I tend to behave. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we are occasions. Can I just say that when brunch started,
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Speaker 1: I actually thought to myself, I'm like, oh, this is
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Speaker 1: going to be a nice, like low key brunch. And
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Speaker 1: then fast forward later, I'm like, nap, I was my favorite? Hilarious, Yes, Raquel,
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Speaker 1: my favorite are the i G videos of me and
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Speaker 1: Roquel's working on the fountain and on each other. That
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Speaker 1: is my favorite video. Girl. Yeah, those are the stories
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Speaker 1: that I'm talking about that people were like, who is
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Speaker 1: it that needs to be a gift? Did anyone say it? Honest? Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I think maybe maybe not. I have to go back archives. True. Um,
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Speaker 1: so I think we want to get into our segond
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Speaker 1: want to get into our segment of Oya Lokas where
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Speaker 1: we answer listener questions. Yes, I actually didn't pull up
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Speaker 1: the songs, so I'm going to do it right now. Um.
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Speaker 1: But also, thank you guys so much for continuing continuing
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Speaker 1: to send us questions. Um, we love them. So oh
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Speaker 1: yeah back, oh yeah, can you hear it? All? Right?
10:46
Speaker 1: Oh yea, look us let's do it? What do you
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Speaker 1: guys want to know about? So we have a first question,
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Speaker 1: um and I wanted to pick a balance of like
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Speaker 1: a really lighthearted one and then a more like intense one. Um.
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Speaker 1: So this one is what is your favorite lip color?
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Speaker 1: Which I love? I love talking about makeup. We can
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Speaker 1: do well yesterday. I am rocking right now. Viva Cosmetics. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I am rocking. I think it is modernita. So
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Speaker 1: I'm feeling this color right now. Really, people actually looked great. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I love it. I am also wearing Viva Cosmetics, um
11:23
Speaker 1: Gothic on niche, which I picked up last night. Also,
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Speaker 1: this was not like, this is a coincidence. We did
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Speaker 1: not plan the us on this. But you know, when
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Speaker 1: you have given you shade, you want to wear as
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Speaker 1: soon as possible, right, um So yeah, Viva Cosmetics if
11:35
Speaker 1: you haven't checked them out there on Instagram, they have
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Speaker 1: a website. You can purchase their liquid lipsticks to Latinos
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Speaker 1: behind the brand and they're super dope. They say that
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Speaker 1: their lipstics are taco proof, which I think they are
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Speaker 1: because this is not moving everything. Yes, I like the
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Speaker 1: red one. They're red one that I don't remember what
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Speaker 1: it's called. I think, Yeah, they sent us thank you
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Speaker 1: so much, thank you. Leave in and the v girls
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Speaker 1: were there less where they were selling and we met
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Speaker 1: them and they were super sweet, so nice to meet,
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Speaker 1: so beautiful. Y'all are amazing. And I told them I
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Speaker 1: was like that red lippy is dangerous. Leave no trace, honey,
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Speaker 1: no evidence. You know what I mean? It's really good, right,
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I would say for me, I like a
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Speaker 1: red I like a red um. I also like dark
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Speaker 1: colors on me. I also like nudes, So you like
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Speaker 1: all the like of them. I think they all look
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Speaker 1: really good on me. That's my answer. You can't go
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Speaker 1: bad with like a good red lip, though, I agree, true, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: it can really tie a look together. Really like it. Alright.
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Speaker 1: So next question, um, okay, So the listener asked, as
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Speaker 1: as light skinned Latinas us, how do you actively elevate
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Speaker 1: darker skin Latinas who are indigenous or after Latinos, how
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Speaker 1: do you hold your friends and family accountable? M hmm.
12:55
Speaker 1: That's a good question. And I'm really happy that you're
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Speaker 1: here because I think that this is a topic that
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Speaker 1: you have touched on many times in the cat Call. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so we've addressed this in season one with you know,
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Speaker 1: why are novellas or white UM kind of amplifying the
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Speaker 1: colorism that exists in UM specifically like Latin American media
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Speaker 1: and novellas. But to answer this question, so I guess
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Speaker 1: with the example of even the cat call, I think
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Speaker 1: I try to make sure that folks have a seat
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Speaker 1: at the table. So that's writers researchers like also that
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Speaker 1: people get paid UM, that their work is going to
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Speaker 1: be amplified. And for a lot of the time, it's
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Speaker 1: also just stepping back UM, knowing your your place, So
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Speaker 1: I think, UM. Unfortunately, fortunately because I am in front
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Speaker 1: of the camera, I do get a lot of requests
13:46
Speaker 1: often UM, come speak for this, come come to my
13:49
Speaker 1: college to do this, or you know, we want you
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Speaker 1: in this video. And UM, I can't speak for all women,
13:56
Speaker 1: I can't speak for all latina's UM. And so I
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Speaker 1: think it is our duty to do work that maybe
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Speaker 1: is sometimes not seen UM, and make sure that you're
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Speaker 1: recommending folks that you make sure that they get paid.
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Speaker 1: There's like one particular event that I remember where someone
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Speaker 1: invited me to come speak. There was um Nafro Latina
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Speaker 1: who was also speaking with me, and I asked him like, well,
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Speaker 1: I want to get paid. Oh and she had done
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Speaker 1: the event twice prior to me, and I asked him, like,
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Speaker 1: I want to get paid and they were like, yeah, yeah, sure,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna pay you like this X amount. And I'm
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Speaker 1: like perfect. So I DM homegirl and I'm like, hey, um,
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Speaker 1: you're getting paid to right. She's like no, I've never
14:37
Speaker 1: gotten paid. I'm like oh no, no, no, no, no
14:41
Speaker 1: no no. I was like, ask them, tell them you
14:43
Speaker 1: want to get paid. This is how much I'm getting paid.
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Speaker 1: So make sure that that's the exact amount, if not more,
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Speaker 1: since you've been doing this. So I think it's about
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Speaker 1: UM just using whatever type of power you have in
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Speaker 1: order to UM, you know, hold people accountable and make
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Speaker 1: sure that you know your home girls are rightfully compensated
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Speaker 1: UM credited also for their work. Yeah. Yeah, that's that's great.
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Speaker 1: That's fabulous. I think that the examples you gave are
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Speaker 1: also like real world, tangible and tangible material examples. The
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Speaker 1: discussion that we were having before we started recording is
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Speaker 1: I feel myself that because so much of our time
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Speaker 1: and our energy and like our work is online and
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Speaker 1: on the internet, it's very like visual right, we look
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Speaker 1: at a lot of pictures and images. I think a
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Speaker 1: lot of times when people are asking, like for you
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Speaker 1: to represent or uplift darker skinned people, what they're asking
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Speaker 1: for is like, well, are you posting about after Latinas
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Speaker 1: and are you posting pictures of darker skinned people? And
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Speaker 1: my thing is like, that's not uplifting, right, That's very performative,
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Speaker 1: And there are real concrete ways in real life in
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Speaker 1: the world that you do the choices that you make
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Speaker 1: to ensure that again, you're not taking up space where
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Speaker 1: you're not needed, right, where you're staying in your lane.
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Speaker 1: That a job that should go to an Afro Latina,
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Speaker 1: a black woman, a Native woman, goes to that person, right,
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Speaker 1: and not to you. Um. In the work that I do,
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Speaker 1: many many, many, many, many many many of my clients
16:21
Speaker 1: right are just the range of race and ethnicity. I
16:26
Speaker 1: work with a lot of black women, I work with
16:28
Speaker 1: a lot of undocumented women. I work with every type
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Speaker 1: of Latina imaginable. Right. So for me, when I'm thinking
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Speaker 1: about uplifting people who are darker than me or who
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Speaker 1: are marginalized, I'm thinking about how in my work day
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Speaker 1: to day, am I helping you to get into housing,
16:44
Speaker 1: and am I putting effort to make sure you're getting
16:46
Speaker 1: a restraining order? Am I helping you to to change
16:50
Speaker 1: your address confidentially and change your name confidentially and to
16:53
Speaker 1: relocate confidentially so that you can be safe. So if
16:56
Speaker 1: you're asking me how do I uplift people, it's by
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Speaker 1: doing that right, by working, so that that would be
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Speaker 1: my answer to that question. Yeah, um, I like to
17:05
Speaker 1: I think another tangible ways to shop local and to
17:09
Speaker 1: shop from black owned businesses and Latina owned businesses, um.
17:14
Speaker 1: Like Specifically, whenever I'm buying like crystals or any type
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Speaker 1: of like holistic anything, I always I try. I try
17:22
Speaker 1: my best to figure like to either like go on
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Speaker 1: Instagram and like find the boutiques and go out of
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Speaker 1: my way or order online those kinds of things. So
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of women, um black women and Latina's
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Speaker 1: indigenous women that are selling on Instagram especially, so you
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Speaker 1: can have like the social media aspect of it and
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Speaker 1: then also support um those local owned businesses. So I
17:41
Speaker 1: think that to give your actual money, you know, if
17:44
Speaker 1: you're going to be buying something, especially crystals especially, you
17:48
Speaker 1: know these things that are that are often co opted
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Speaker 1: by white folks, and you can see them at Urban outfitters.
17:52
Speaker 1: You can buy sage at Urban outfitters don't buy sage.
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Speaker 1: Different outfitters do not, you know, you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: like go to your Botannica, give your money to the
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Speaker 1: small businesses. I think that that's that's really important. And
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Speaker 1: if I'm shopping local and I'm shopping small and I
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Speaker 1: need to know that it's POC owned, black owned. Yes, yeah,
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Speaker 1: that's really important to where your dollars going. Where's in fact,
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Speaker 1: financial support going right in person? You're in person again,
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Speaker 1: like in real life on the ground support, you know.
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Speaker 1: And I also wanted to say that, you know, I
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Speaker 1: don't have I don't know the name. I'll have to
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Speaker 1: find it and I'll post it on our Instagram. But
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Speaker 1: there was recently a um it's a liquid I think
18:28
Speaker 1: it's a liquid lip company and it's black owned. Black
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Speaker 1: woman owns it and they're just going to be carrying
18:34
Speaker 1: it at Target and it's like super amazing and we'll
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Speaker 1: post about it. I can't remember the name, but I
18:39
Speaker 1: remember that Shark Tank actually like rejected it. Remember that,
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Speaker 1: and now it's like a multimillion dollar or a million
18:44
Speaker 1: dollar you know company, they're doing really well, so we'll
18:47
Speaker 1: post it so y'all can also shop from the report.
18:49
Speaker 1: We're going to do our song break and friends and
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Speaker 1: friends and friends and and and and friends and um
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Speaker 1: um um um um um um um um of it
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Speaker 1: and little Ship and we're back all right. So for
19:40
Speaker 1: those that are unfamiliar, which I don't think any of
19:42
Speaker 1: our listeners are, but just in case, Cat Lazo is
19:45
Speaker 1: a director, producer, writer, and visual storyteller. She also works
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Speaker 1: at Meat to We Are Me Who, So shout out, um,
19:54
Speaker 1: we want to talk about the cat Call like because
19:57
Speaker 1: I know you're like in season two right now. Season
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Speaker 1: two is airing and right now I'm actually in l
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Speaker 1: A purposely to start production on season three. So excited
20:08
Speaker 1: I I started shooting next week. Can you give us
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Speaker 1: a little like cat Call history? Yeah? Absolutely? Um. So
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Speaker 1: part of that history is actually prior to me working
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Speaker 1: at me Through, I had my own YouTube channel. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, prior to that, I wanted to be an actress.
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Speaker 1: When I was younger, I literally wanted to be like
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Speaker 1: the next Natalie Portman. So I studied acting. I went
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Speaker 1: to a performing art high school. If y'all are familiar
20:32
Speaker 1: with fame the movie. That's the school I went to. Yes,
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Speaker 1: I graduated UM, and I was faced with the reality
20:41
Speaker 1: of the industry, which was they didn't care if I
20:44
Speaker 1: studied four years of classical theater, you know, Shakespeare. All
20:48
Speaker 1: they cared about was whether I could fit this really
20:51
Speaker 1: narrow stereotype. You know, so going audition after audition, casting
20:56
Speaker 1: directors asking me that was great, but can you say
20:59
Speaker 1: that a little more urban or you know, how well
21:02
Speaker 1: could I, like, you know, move my neck or snap
21:05
Speaker 1: my tongue. It was lots of that. So it was
21:07
Speaker 1: very dreaming on my emotional health. UM And basically since then,
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Speaker 1: I've just constantly been trying to find ways of how
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Speaker 1: to change the industry within UM. I worked in casting
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Speaker 1: for a little bit. Then I studied advertising marketing communications,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, I can't work in advertising. They're
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Speaker 1: gonna hate me for my morals and so very stereotypical.
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Speaker 1: I was about to graduate and I'm like, what do
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Speaker 1: I do? I know, I'll start at YouTube. It sounds
21:37
Speaker 1: very cliche, millennial, but it that is what I did.
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Speaker 1: UM And Yeah, and so I had the cats me
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Speaker 1: out where I just had fun, like just doing skits
21:46
Speaker 1: and vlogs just lots of UM from my perspective, lots
21:51
Speaker 1: of like media representation, breakdown kind of things. UM. And
21:55
Speaker 1: then when I got hired by me Through, it was
21:57
Speaker 1: almost a very easy, um and seamless transition to now
22:02
Speaker 1: be like they basically gave me autonomy and we're like,
22:05
Speaker 1: do whatever you want to do, and I'm like, I
22:07
Speaker 1: have a great idea. UM. And the idea really came
22:10
Speaker 1: from also because our audience. I started seeing how our
22:13
Speaker 1: audience um was not so receptive. So we talked about
22:19
Speaker 1: the about meant well yes, um and so. But instead
22:26
Speaker 1: of you know, brushing it off and being like, oh
22:28
Speaker 1: my god, you know our audience is like ignorant or
22:31
Speaker 1: my god, they're so hateful, UM, I thought like, okay,
22:35
Speaker 1: let's combine what they love, right, Like, our audience really
22:38
Speaker 1: loves those like meme skits like slapstick kind of like
22:42
Speaker 1: comedic stuff. UM, so why don't I take that type
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Speaker 1: of format and then like insert a vlog where it's
22:48
Speaker 1: like educational, um, you know, high pace, like very fast
22:52
Speaker 1: but always accessible. UM. So my hope was to basically
22:56
Speaker 1: target you know, our our commenters and UM, give them
23:00
Speaker 1: an accessible like series that can break down topics like colorism, homophobiaming,
23:08
Speaker 1: things of that nature. And yeah, and so now thankfully
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Speaker 1: it's been successful. Um, and it's no, no, no, hold on,
23:16
Speaker 1: I'm going to fix that. I said that with my
23:18
Speaker 1: high pitched voice, and I'm going to say it has
23:20
Speaker 1: been successful period. Yeah, and now we're on we're on
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Speaker 1: season three. So yeah, that's amazing. Congratulations on the new season.
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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much. Yeah, I'm looking forward
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Speaker 1: to it. And it seems like it's been quite the journey.
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Speaker 1: It sure has, girl, Yes it has. It's a lot
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Speaker 1: of work, I think, Um. I think a lot of
23:42
Speaker 1: people don't realize that. Um, I'm not just in front
23:46
Speaker 1: of the camera for these videos. I'm conceptualizing. I'm directing
23:51
Speaker 1: the first season. I edited the entire first season, I
23:54
Speaker 1: wrote the entire first UM season. Then, thankfully, you know,
23:58
Speaker 1: because of its success, I was able to on writers
24:01
Speaker 1: um of different backgrounds. Um, I was able to bring
24:05
Speaker 1: on a researcher. So yeah, it's it's a lot of work.
24:09
Speaker 1: But I love what I do and I love the reaction,
24:12
Speaker 1: both the good and the bad. And I will say
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Speaker 1: that equally. I enjoyed the people who will still don't
24:18
Speaker 1: get it, will combat me and that's okay. And then
24:23
Speaker 1: the people who you know send me d M screenshots
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Speaker 1: of the videos being played in high schools or in
24:29
Speaker 1: colleges and I'm like, yes, this is exactly what I wanted. Absolutely.
24:34
Speaker 1: I want to ask cat because you know us, I think,
24:37
Speaker 1: especially for women who are doing anything online, and especially
24:43
Speaker 1: women who are talking about what you talk about social
24:47
Speaker 1: justice issues, I know that you get a lot of hate.
24:50
Speaker 1: People don't like you and they are just being straight
24:54
Speaker 1: up sucking mean and they're kind of obsessive maybe, And
24:57
Speaker 1: how do you navigate that? Just like the hate? Um? Well,
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Speaker 1: it's interesting because it's hard to decipher. It's taken me
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Speaker 1: some time to decipher when someone is truly just being
25:10
Speaker 1: mean um, and whether someone is actually trying, like just
25:14
Speaker 1: doesn't get it um. And maybe it's just coming from
25:18
Speaker 1: a more angry, hateful place. Um. But in all honesty, UM,
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Speaker 1: I do so down rereading the comments now, um, which
25:29
Speaker 1: you know pains me to say because because of the
25:32
Speaker 1: negative comments, I miss out sometimes on the positive comments.
25:36
Speaker 1: So I do give myself some breathers. Um. Um. The
25:40
Speaker 1: folks I meet through also, I've had conversations with them
25:43
Speaker 1: about please like I don't want to see these type
25:46
Speaker 1: of comments. So if there's anything type of like violence, UM,
25:50
Speaker 1: I will say that maybe the biggest thing that ever
25:53
Speaker 1: really hurt me was like when folks were rallying, it
25:55
Speaker 1: was like one of our top comments, people were like, UM,
25:58
Speaker 1: firect fire cat. I was like, oh my god, this
26:01
Speaker 1: is my job, you gotta do um. But thankfully you
26:05
Speaker 1: know me through was like no, it's fine, like you
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Speaker 1: still have a job. This is why we wanted you can.
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Speaker 1: I ask what was that about? Well, you know what
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Speaker 1: it is is Ultimately, UM, I think my videos and
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Speaker 1: the content that I'm addressing, um, disrupts the natural like
26:24
Speaker 1: the feed. Right. So if they've only been consuming um,
26:28
Speaker 1: comedic things that are just distractions, and maybe this one
26:32
Speaker 1: is making them think, then I think there's a little
26:35
Speaker 1: bit of anchor there. It's like, why are you coming
26:37
Speaker 1: and changing this page that I like so much? So
26:41
Speaker 1: I think it's their way of being like, get her off.
26:44
Speaker 1: We don't want to see this type of content. I'm
26:47
Speaker 1: okay with just being strictly distracted. UM. But yeah, interesting,
26:53
Speaker 1: very interesting when folks want to come from people's jobs
26:58
Speaker 1: like like it's one look, it really is one thing.
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Speaker 1: If you are freaking here's the imbalance, right, sexual predator, rapist,
27:08
Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein and all of them were allowed to literally
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Speaker 1: rape people for for decades and people protected them. You
27:18
Speaker 1: annoy somebody and they want you fired right now. That
27:22
Speaker 1: is what we call a witch hunt. Let me just say,
27:24
Speaker 1: I have not thought, wow that that connection right there.
27:27
Speaker 1: You just blew my mind. It's sucked up. It's sucked up.
27:30
Speaker 1: So when I again, so the violence, the aggression, the
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Speaker 1: dragging towards women creators over things that can be addressed
27:37
Speaker 1: in a very like educational human manner, it doesn't make
27:42
Speaker 1: sense to me. There's a discrepancy, there's a power imbalance,
27:45
Speaker 1: and it's not cool, Like that's not cool, you know
27:48
Speaker 1: that that they came for you in that way for
27:50
Speaker 1: what you know. I wonder what those people would if,
27:54
Speaker 1: you know, had I been fired in the beginning of
27:58
Speaker 1: season two or I forget when that happened, if had
28:00
Speaker 1: I been fired as a result of their comments, I
28:04
Speaker 1: wonder what those how those people would feel, you know,
28:07
Speaker 1: like just thinking the repercussions of like what that could
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Speaker 1: have had on me or anyone else that people want
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Speaker 1: to rally and you know, advocate that they get fired.
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Speaker 1: I wonder if people actually think maybe it's that commenters
28:19
Speaker 1: don't know the power that they have to because I know,
28:23
Speaker 1: as companies like we spend time reading your comments, you know,
28:26
Speaker 1: to know where we're where we need to facilitate more
28:30
Speaker 1: conversation or what we're not addressing. So maybe there's also
28:34
Speaker 1: a lack of education of folks behind the screen not
28:37
Speaker 1: realizing their their actual power right being that too, it's
28:44
Speaker 1: such an interesting like, like the dynamics are so weird
28:48
Speaker 1: because I feel like people really do post on the
28:50
Speaker 1: internet thinking that no one else is going to see
28:52
Speaker 1: it or like that comment they comment, and like people
28:56
Speaker 1: are going to see it and they're not going to
28:57
Speaker 1: care about it, and you don't realize it's not just you.
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Speaker 1: There's literally millions of people on the Internet and people love,
29:03
Speaker 1: people like to follow and jump on bandwagons, to be honest,
29:07
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, I think also
29:09
Speaker 1: those comments that are targeted towards me, it's because I
29:13
Speaker 1: make folks uncomfortable by you know, like I said, I'm
29:16
Speaker 1: disrupting this feed and it's almost like your force via
29:20
Speaker 1: swiping and and looking at the feed to now maybe
29:24
Speaker 1: um see a mirror to yourself, and that's always been
29:27
Speaker 1: my objective Also is with the Cack call, is that
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Speaker 1: I know that as a light skinned Latina, as a
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Speaker 1: middle class Latina, I cannot speak for all of us.
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Speaker 1: I cannot speak for the entire Latino X community. UM.
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Speaker 1: So the objective also with the Cack call was one
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Speaker 1: where I wanted to highlight a mirror on the ways
29:46
Speaker 1: that we as a community UM oppressed one another, because
29:50
Speaker 1: a lot of the time, the conversation is how is
29:53
Speaker 1: you know the outside, how are outsiders oppressing us? Which
29:56
Speaker 1: is fine, and I think those conversations need to be had,
29:58
Speaker 1: but I don't think that we often hold one another accountable, right, absolutely, No.
30:03
Speaker 1: The intra the intra community conversations are so important because
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Speaker 1: there are hierarchies and the violences that are enacted on
30:13
Speaker 1: us from the outside in in many ways, the same
30:16
Speaker 1: hierarchies exist within our own communities. And I don't I
30:19
Speaker 1: don't think we know that. I think because we have
30:21
Speaker 1: this guys of like one that we're just a one,
30:25
Speaker 1: that we're like a minority group, that we're quote unquote
30:28
Speaker 1: all POC and like all of this is like mis education. Um.
30:33
Speaker 1: And yeah, and I don't think that people think of
30:35
Speaker 1: it that way. I don't think they think that within
30:37
Speaker 1: our community there is power structure. It's always a conversation
30:40
Speaker 1: about how the outsider is, how the a k. A
30:42
Speaker 1: white man, the Anglo white man is oppressing us, which
30:45
Speaker 1: is valid, right, um so, and I think that that's
30:49
Speaker 1: um I lost saying, but no thinking about one of yours,
30:54
Speaker 1: going to say one of your compile tho, one of
30:55
Speaker 1: your episodes, um, when you're talking about breaking down the
30:58
Speaker 1: difference between race and ethness city, right, and so when
31:01
Speaker 1: we're actually able to understand the difference, we can understand
31:04
Speaker 1: the power structures. Like you're saying that that the power,
31:07
Speaker 1: the hierarchy still is in our community even though it
31:09
Speaker 1: is made maybe POC right. Yeah, so I think even
31:13
Speaker 1: just folks don't under Latinos specifically don't. We're not really
31:16
Speaker 1: taught the difference between race and ethnicity because it's so complicated, right,
31:20
Speaker 1: and we know that, like the census has a lot
31:22
Speaker 1: to do with the way like Hispanic identity has been
31:25
Speaker 1: created in this country literally marketed. Yes, we've been marketed
31:30
Speaker 1: in Brandon. Something that I see happening a lot is like, Okay,
31:34
Speaker 1: it's such a complex conversation, but it's also simple at
31:37
Speaker 1: the same time. Yes, right, And so I think also
31:40
Speaker 1: a lot of Latino X people, especially if you are
31:43
Speaker 1: and there's also parallel conversations about even using the term
31:47
Speaker 1: light skinned is that is a term that originates in
31:50
Speaker 1: African American communities and in black communities. So can non
31:53
Speaker 1: black people even use that term to describe us ourselves there,
31:58
Speaker 1: I've I've I've seen that conversation take place where that
32:02
Speaker 1: the term light skinned is a Black term for black people, right,
32:07
Speaker 1: But it's a term that we all use because even
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Speaker 1: in my house, my dad would describe us as light
32:14
Speaker 1: skinned or whatever. However, right, because we come in all
32:18
Speaker 1: these different colors in one family, you can have family
32:21
Speaker 1: members that look like they're all different races. Me and
32:23
Speaker 1: my dad in the face, we look alike, but I
32:27
Speaker 1: we look like we could be of different racial locations,
32:29
Speaker 1: essentially because he's much darker than me. And I think
32:32
Speaker 1: with Latinos it's like, look, I have to contend with
32:35
Speaker 1: the fact that everywhere I go, I present like this pale, right,
32:39
Speaker 1: I'm pretty light. My dad is not following me around
32:42
Speaker 1: everywhere I go for people to see that this is
32:44
Speaker 1: my people and who I come from, and this is
32:46
Speaker 1: what I'm you know what I'm saying. So I think
32:48
Speaker 1: that like there's like latinos like in the skin that
32:51
Speaker 1: we're in we want to carry. But oh, but I'm
32:53
Speaker 1: mixed with this, and but my grandma' is this, and
32:55
Speaker 1: but my mom is this, and my dad is this. Okay,
32:57
Speaker 1: but that's not what people are seeing when they see you.
32:59
Speaker 1: And that I love that you brought that up because
33:01
Speaker 1: it's very true, um, and you can bring that even
33:04
Speaker 1: with class. Right. So for me, I think, um, colorism
33:08
Speaker 1: was like one of the first things that I learned about,
33:11
Speaker 1: and you know sexism just because you deal with it,
33:13
Speaker 1: especially with auditioning. But but for me, class was one
33:17
Speaker 1: of those more complex things to understand because of that
33:21
Speaker 1: because I carried my parents story and their history right.
33:25
Speaker 1: So the fact that you know, my father, both of
33:28
Speaker 1: my parents, UM, came from South America. UM, my mother
33:32
Speaker 1: has cleaned houses till this day. UM. And so like
33:36
Speaker 1: their struggles I wore as mine. But then later on
33:40
Speaker 1: acknowledging and realizing I'm like, okay, wait, those stories are
33:43
Speaker 1: very valid, but at the same time, they're not my stories,
33:47
Speaker 1: Like it's not my lived experience, and I think that
33:50
Speaker 1: within our community, Like you said, I think we hold
33:52
Speaker 1: our parents uh stories and struggles as if they are
33:57
Speaker 1: our own, as if there are lived experience. I think
34:00
Speaker 1: also there is the element to that in our families
34:03
Speaker 1: and our communities. There is so much storytelling between our
34:06
Speaker 1: parents and us. They are talking to us in my
34:09
Speaker 1: family anyways, I'm hearing very consistently, ever since I was
34:12
Speaker 1: a little kid, about this is our family history and
34:15
Speaker 1: this is where we come from. I think our parents
34:17
Speaker 1: also want I want to share that with us, you
34:20
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But that's the distinction, right that
34:23
Speaker 1: you're coming up that you're talking about. Yeah, um so,
34:26
Speaker 1: kind of to go in a different note, but still
34:28
Speaker 1: of course talking about media and all of that. We
34:34
Speaker 1: were all recently at the National Hispanic Media Coalition Impact
34:39
Speaker 1: a War Impact um so I wanted us to talk
34:42
Speaker 1: about that for a little bit. Um well, especially because
34:45
Speaker 1: cads had a pretty big role at the Impact Awards.
34:49
Speaker 1: Um you were doing interviews on the Red Car. I
34:52
Speaker 1: would be me to correspondent and uh yeah, I had
34:56
Speaker 1: the pleasure of interviewing folks like Aubrey Plaza un get
35:01
Speaker 1: it at all and it was nerve wracking. I've definitely
35:04
Speaker 1: embarrassed myself, but it was well worth it. You look fabulous.
35:08
Speaker 1: Thank you. And in the midst of the entire program
35:12
Speaker 1: where like all of these major celebrities are being awarded,
35:16
Speaker 1: they gave Cat like a recognition, like a major shout
35:19
Speaker 1: out in the middle of the whole thing, right, and
35:21
Speaker 1: then they showed some of her work on the multiple
35:23
Speaker 1: screens that were around. It was really really sweet. Yeah,
35:26
Speaker 1: I was sweating. I was sweating. There was a big
35:29
Speaker 1: drop of sweat that went down my book. I did
35:33
Speaker 1: not see that happening. Congratulation. That's amazing. You mean you've
35:38
Speaker 1: put in a lot of hard work, you know, and
35:40
Speaker 1: like you do a lot in congratulations. Yes, so I
35:46
Speaker 1: think we have. We're coming to a close now of
35:48
Speaker 1: this already already, yes, fast, too quick. But thank you
35:55
Speaker 1: cat so much. Do you have any announcements? Thanks for
35:58
Speaker 1: our listeners to look forward to. Where did they check
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Speaker 1: out Cat Call Season three? Sure? So I'm in production
36:05
Speaker 1: literally like next week for season three of the Cat Call.
36:08
Speaker 1: But if you're not familiar or you want to get
36:10
Speaker 1: familiar with the Cat Call, you're more than welcome to
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