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Today’s Popcorn Moment:    Gross analysis by John Heilemann on MS Now · Tony Katz | Popcorn Moment

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  Speaker 1: is more. We can talk about Ice, or we can
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  Speaker 1: I want to share this with you from the pseudo
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  Speaker 1: intellectual network of MS now and the pseudo intellectuals who
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  Speaker 1: run that show. This used to be an important show.
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  Speaker 1: Those days are very much over. This is Willie Geist
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  Speaker 1: asking questions of John Heilman, as if John Heilman is
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  Speaker 1: going to answer the question, well, but you take a
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  Speaker 1: look at Ice, immigration and customs enforcement, you take a
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  Speaker 1: look at two shootings that have happened recently, and now
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  Speaker 1: they're not going to be detaining anybody in their car.
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  Speaker 2: I think this is a mistake. I accept that the
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  Speaker 2: shootings happened.
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  Speaker 1: No, I didn't say it's great news, because I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it is. I think what we have now taught is, well,
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  Speaker 1: if you just get in your car and drive, you
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  Speaker 1: can create a situation by which ICE looks bad.
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  Speaker 2: And I do argue, and it is an ugly thing.
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  Speaker 1: To say that there are people on the left who
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  Speaker 1: don't care that these people have died.
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  Speaker 2: They care good, this helps our cause.
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  Speaker 1: And if you say to me that's cynical and that
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  Speaker 1: is ugly, I will say to you, look at the
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  Speaker 1: people opposed to ICE doing their job, though you know,
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  Speaker 1: the job that they are told to do because those
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  Speaker 1: are the laws on the books.
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  Speaker 2: Look at the.
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  Speaker 1: People who are desperate to keep a legal immigrants here.
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  Speaker 1: Look at Tim Walls, the governor of Minnesota, and Keith Elson,
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  Speaker 1: the Attorney General, who said, hey, here is a rapist
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  Speaker 1: of a ten year old, a repeated rapist of a
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  Speaker 1: ten year old. Let's make sure we do everything possible
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  Speaker 1: so they're not deported.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not cynical. I've watched I think.
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  Speaker 1: These people are capable of anything and have no bottom.
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  Speaker 1: It's like soup, salad and breadsticks at olive Garden. It
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  Speaker 1: just keeps on coming. This is John Heileman talking about ice.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's a bit of a long winded answer, but
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  Speaker 1: I want you to hear the where the philosophy is
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  Speaker 1: from the left and what some people might call a
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  Speaker 1: quote unquote conventional wisdom, and why I want to give
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  Speaker 1: you another way to look at it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Willie, there's well, you say, a lot to
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  Speaker 3: impact there. I think you know the pattern of Republicans
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  Speaker 3: enabling President Trump being silent advocating their responsibilities, their institutional
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  Speaker 3: responsibilities in the Senate, their responsibilities to their voters, and
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  Speaker 3: in the case of individual governors. This is nothing new.
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  Speaker 3: What I think is is most important politically, and I
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  Speaker 3: just want to try to narrow this because there's so
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  Speaker 3: many objections that we really we file to, that we
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  Speaker 3: raise to all of these things.
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  Speaker 4: There are moral objections, there's.
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  Speaker 3: Extra projections on policy, but just the political objective, the political.
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  Speaker 4: Issue the thing to focused on here.
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  Speaker 3: It's really highlighted in these cases because here you have
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  Speaker 3: two of the most important Senate races.
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  Speaker 4: In the United States, the Senate.
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  Speaker 3: Race in May and the center race in Texas, two
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  Speaker 3: races where Susan Collins, someone who's demonstrated a remarkable degree
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  Speaker 3: of electoral resilience over the years, and there's been chaos
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  Speaker 3: on the Democratic side, someone in Ken Paxton who has
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  Speaker 3: not had the record of resilience that Susan Collins has had,
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  Speaker 3: but who, despite all of his scandals, there's polling that
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  Speaker 3: shows him either slightly ahead or running neck and neck
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  Speaker 3: with James tallerco Texas, a fundamentally red state. These are
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  Speaker 3: states where those two candidates would rather be talking about
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  Speaker 3: almost anything other than what the President's going to be
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  Speaker 3: talking about on television tomorrow night, re raising the questions
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  Speaker 3: of totally ungrounded claims of election fraud in twenty twenty whatever,
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  Speaker 3: the big news is that Donald Trump says he's going
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  Speaker 3: to break That is a nightmare for Susan Collins, that's
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  Speaker 3: a nightmare for Ken Paxton. The voters in those states
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  Speaker 3: do not want to be talking about that. And then
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  Speaker 3: in those two states, these obviously absolutely are as ice killings.
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  Speaker 4: Just in the last couple of days.
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  Speaker 1: I put forth to you that John Hommon does not
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  Speaker 1: know that they are outrageous. I put forth to you
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  Speaker 1: that he does not have the data to make that statement.
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  Speaker 1: But I think we need to take a step back
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  Speaker 1: and take a look at the larger I think every
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  Speaker 1: Republican is going to take a look at Trump speaking
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  Speaker 1: Thursday night about the twenty twenty election and fraud if
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  Speaker 1: that's what he's indeed talking about, and say, what are
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  Speaker 1: we doing here? This doesn't need a primetime address And
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to have to respond to that, I
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  Speaker 1: really don't. But ICE shouldn't do its job in Maine
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  Speaker 1: and Texas because they've got big Senate races and a
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  Speaker 1: governor's race there, and this.
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  Speaker 2: Is bad for Republicans. I put forth to you that
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  Speaker 2: that's a mistake. That when we see these shootings and we.
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  Speaker 1: Don't have the data, it seems obvious that the left
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  Speaker 1: is counting on it, jetting people up to these moments
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  Speaker 1: so they can get political advantage as opposed to are
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  Speaker 1: we a country that wants to follow the law or not.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that this is a gross analysis because
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  Speaker 1: if accurate, it is what the left believes will get
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  Speaker 1: them to a better place, not where America gets to
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  Speaker 1: a better place.