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PODCAST: Episode 835 - Dave Davidson (Revocation) on New Gods, New Masters. Precision & Playlists · Ghost Cult Magazine Podcast

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  I think there's just certain kind of artists that you can
• 0:02
  hear where you're like, OK, this this just sounds like it was
• 0:05
  just cranked out and like doesn't have any kind of soul to
• 0:08
  it. So it's a bummer when capitalism
• 0:11
  kind of sinks its teeth into art and, you know, just sucks the
• 0:16
  life from it. But you know what I mean?
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  We got death metal and we got classical music and jazz and,
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  you know, all sorts of cool forms of, of, of rock and, and
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  hip hop that, that go against the status quo.
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  So, you know, at the end of the day, no one forces you to listen
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  to any out there. You can, you know, choose your
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  own playlist. What's up
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  everybodyitskefi@coastcoatmag.com I am super stoked to be joined
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  by our old friend Dave Davidson. A revocation.
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  How you doing man? I'm doing good man, thanks for
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  having me. Of course, thanks for being
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  back. Like I was just saying, I moved
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  from Brooklyn to California during the plague and I used to
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  see you just socially all the time and see your bands play all
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  the time. And I think the last interview
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  we did was at Vitus, which bums me out.
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  St. Vitus Bar now sadly closed,
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  hopefully to come back someday in some other form, you know,
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  proud of what those folks did. And I love that place to pieces
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  as you know, as you did too. But yeah, man, new album, new
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  gods, new masters coming out on Metal Blade Records new
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  recording lineup, although the lineup's been together for a
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  minute. New album.
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  How's it feeling? 9 albums in like 20 years of
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  Revocation ish almost, and like 30 plus years as a musician for
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  you, maybe more. I don't know if you're
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  sentimental or care about milestones, but journalists we
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  have lizardbrains so we have to. Yeah, yeah, no, it is quite,
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  quite a feat. I mean, I was surprised that it
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  was the 20 year anniversary. Like the the the press team from
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  Metal Blade kind of brought it up and I was like, oh shit, it's
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  been 20 years already. Like just wasn't even on my
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  radar. I was so focused on this new
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  record coming out that I kind of forgot that we have another
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  major milestone coming up in our career.
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  So yeah, that's it. I mean, it's definitely a point
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  of pride for me. I mean, the fact that we're
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  still out there doing it and I've, you know, been able to
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  travel the world and, and, and put out some records that I'm
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  really passionate about and, and, and meet so many great and
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  talented people, you know, along the way in the process.
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  So, so yeah, it's, it's, it's been quite a journey.
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  I mean, regarding the record itself, I'm incredibly proud of
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  it. And I think it's a real
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  milestone in our career. Feels like an amalgamation of a
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  lot of different components of the revocation sound over the
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  years. But also like anything, we
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  always try to kind of push the boundaries.
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  And I think we brought some some new elements to the table,
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  certainly this time around. Yeah, I'm just incredibly proud
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  of it. Well, I'm, I'm not supposed to
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  have favorite bands, but I am. This is a favorite band of mine,
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  as you know, and I am incredibly proud of you because it is hard
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  to maintain any kind of consistency in the world in
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  anything worth doing that's artistic.
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  And this is a band I've been a fan of from the very beginning.
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  I'm proud to say I was there at the start and hooked immediately
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  and still there. And this record's a banger, man.
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  It's all bangers and right off the bat I, I wrote like in my
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  notes, you know, beautiful guitar work, beautiful guitar
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  work. Next track, beautiful guitar
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  work. Just like really, you know, you
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  always seem to level up whatever you're doing on the axe.
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  But I really love some of the stuff on here.
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  It's not. And nothing is thrown away.
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  Everything is I feel like on purpose and like a great film
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  direct, like a Kubrick, like the every every song on the album's
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  like a little painting and I love that so much.
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  Thank you. Thank you man.
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  I, I really appreciate that. I've, I've, I poured everything
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  I had into this one. And, you know, I mean, every
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  record I, I tried to, you know, just deliver the best
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  performances I can, write the best songs that I cans.
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  And so it's, it's so rewarding to me that it resonates with
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  people. Yeah, man, I think this ones
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  going to, you know, of course, hit people over the head, which
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  you kind of need to do today anyway, you know, no fucking
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  around. Like no, you know, grand
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  symphonic intro, like just here's the record go.
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  And I like that too. And I don't feel like any of the
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  songs are overly long, like, you know, the appropriate amount of
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  time. My other podcast host, when I'm
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  not doing band interviews, likes to say that the perfect album is
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  42 minutes and anything longer than that is hard to maintain
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  people's attention in any genre, but especially death metal
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  related bands. And I was like, you know what?
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  That's, you know, when he's right, he's right.
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  Nick Cameron, you're right. So I like that this.
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  Yeah. This record doesn't feel like
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  there's two. There's any fat on it.
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  It's all, it's all pure meat on the bone.
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  No grizzle. Was that a thing you guys were
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  working towards or you know, just particularly this one is
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  more more groovy, less lengthy, less proggy, more straight up.
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  I think like earlier in our career, we'd have like, you
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  know, 11-12 song records. And as we kind of progressed,
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  we've been kind of slowly, you know, keeping it around like 9
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  songs an album that and that kind of feels like, to me like
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  this, like the sweet spot, like sort of like the magic number
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  there. It's enough for people to
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  digest. But also like what I'm writing a
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  record, I try not to sort of think about anything outside
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  external forces, right? I just want to think about, you
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  know, what the what the record is and the music and, and how
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  it's sort of developing in real time.
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  At the same time, you know, the way people interface with music
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  has just changed. And there's, you know, kind of a
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  whole generation of people that are more just accustomed to
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  singles and, and, you know, don't necessarily think about
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  full length records or whatever. It's more playlist based.
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  So I, I try not to let that, you know, affect how I write songs
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  to think about records. But I guess in some way it's
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  like, OK, like what? Yeah.
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  What is that sweet spot? What's that kind of magic number
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  where I feel like I can, you know, kind of create if it's a
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  concept record, sort of flesh the concept out and have
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  different things to talk about and have it be, you know,
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  multiple tracks that kind of encompass where I'm at as a
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  musician and, and the story that I want to tell, you know, both
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  lyrically and musically and at the same time.
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  Yeah, just, you know, isn't like a 15 long song record where, you
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  know, maybe looking half the songs aren't even going to get
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  listened to if people, you know, don't spend the time with the
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  with the record. So 9 feels like, you know, a, a,
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  a good, you know, you go on a good morning run or a, you know,
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  you're listening to it, you know, wherever, just like you
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  know 1 sitting. You put the record on and and
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  you could absorb the whole thing and then go about your day.
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  Right on, I know people feel like 10 is a good round Number
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  for things. I I do like 9 and and nine does
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  kind of play into some love crafty and things that I know
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  you're you've always been a fan of.
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  You know, I still feel like metal fans.
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  I think there's some empirical evidence that says we're the
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  most loyal listeners of anything.
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  And I know that your interests go far beyond metal, as we've
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  often talked about in these interviews.
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  But umm, I do feel like we are album listeners and we're not.
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  I know there's sort of a segment of people that are still kind of
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  like I just discovered metal and I'm playlists and this and that
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  and I get digital natives, Gen. alpha, whatever the fuck
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  marketing term applies. I still feel like it's important
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  to make records for yourself as an artist, for you, and I think
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  it's important. Yet like I don't feel like
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  you're overly metal blade is not breathing down your neck.
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  I don't hear a single what's the video going to be?
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  I feel like you still have some rain in that they might they
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  might suggest things, but it's still your baby.
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  Of course, Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's great to feel like
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  you have complete control, which, you know, it's a nice
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  luxury. I mean, I feel like sometimes
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  bands it's like it turns into such like a paint by numbers
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  thing. And it's like, you know, I mean,
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  I've heard stories about different genres of music where
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  it's like it's it's where they've got kind of ghost
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  writers on everything. And it's so down to a tee where
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  it's like, oh, it's going to be, you know, in this summertime,
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  we're going to write in this key even or like it's going to be in
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  this tempo for the winter. We're going to do a different.
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  So it's a great feeling to know I'm not beholden to any of, of
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  that shit because it just seems like it sucks all of the on and
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  creativity out of music and just literally becomes like a, you
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  know, product that you're just fucking churning out.
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  And, you know, probably for a lot of people that are writing
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  that type of music, it's just a paycheck.
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  Like, I don't know how much they're really pouring their
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  heart and souls into it. But, you know, it's, it's one
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  sliver of, of the music business that luckily I don't have to
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  interface with. And I can just kind of write
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  music and, and songs for for myself.
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  But yeah, lucky number 9, I guess that's.
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  Lucky 9 I am. I'm jealous of sometimes pop
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  musicians having like, dipped my toe back into making music again
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  myself. I'm like, man, it's like, Oh
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  yeah, I forgot how how hard I am on myself when it comes to the
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  writing process. And like, you know, I just need
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  to be more punk rock about stuff personally.
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  But like, I'm jealous of pop artists sometimes because it's
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  like they don't have to think like that.
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  They're not hand wringing over this, over the littlest thing.
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  They're just like funk it, throw it against the wall.
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  Got 18 producers to make one track.
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  Let's throw your thing on and do it.
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  Like there's something probably liberating about that.
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  I guess so, yeah. I mean, that being said, I think
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  there's some incredible pop out there.
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  You know, like there's, so there's some artists that, you
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  know, write amazing song. So like to me, if it's a if it's
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  a good song, it's a good song. There's novel ideas in in all
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  forms of music and, and, and sometimes, you know, just like a
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  great pop hook that that you know, it has an interesting
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  melody with a, with a cool orchestration, you know, that,
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  that, that could be a great thing.
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  So I'm not, I'm not anti pop or anything like that.
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  I think there's just certain kind of artists that you can
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  hear where you're like, OK, this this just sounds like it was
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  just fucking like cranked out and like doesn't have any kind
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  of soul to it. So it's a bummer when capitalism
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  kind of sinks its teeth into art and, you know, just sucks the
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  life from it. But you know what I mean.
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  We got a fucking death metal and we get classical music and jazz
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  and, you know, all sorts of cool forms of of rock and hip hop
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  that that go against the status quo.
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  So, you know, at the end of the day, no one forces you to listen
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  to any of the shit out there. You can, you know, choose your
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  own playlist at least, you know, for the time being, who knows,
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  maybe we all get brain implant ships and it's like you got to
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  fucking you get the new whatever record downloaded straight to
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  your brain interface that you are forced to listen to with ads
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  for Coca-Cola, you know, peppered in there as well.
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  And in which case, just fucking unplug me from the Matrix at
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  that point. Exactly.
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  I'll just. I don't want to eat the steak
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  and pretend it's delicious when I know it's not steak.
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  I, I or vegan food. If you're vegetarian or vegan.
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  I don't know. Yeah, like it is pretty
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  interesting to say, you know, at that point, I think that didn't
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  work the last time when I What is it?
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  iTunes did that with the iPhone for U2.
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  That was a mistake. Turns out Lars was right about
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  streaming. Yeah, even though again, I try
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  to urge everyone to just look at streaming as a search engine for
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  music. Anything you can think of is
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  there mostly minus a few artists.
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  Everybody, it's just like Ticketmaster, everybody.
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  Every time somebody's like I'm pushing back, they cave.
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  Later something happens and they or they, you know, they don't
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  cave, but they, something happens and they go back or they
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  that, you know, few people I know King Gizzard and the Lizard
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  Wizard just dropped off all streaming except Band Camp,
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  which also is, you know, has its own issues.
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  So I don't know, I don't know what the delivery system is.
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  I still love albums. I think you do too.
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  That's why you still do what you do.
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  And I do what I do just to get back to the music for a second.
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  In addition, I'm always interested in, you know, I don't
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  think you've ever had like a real true concept record.
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  But I love where you take things lyrically in places and it's
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  always, you know, you know, not unstandard death metal topics.
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  But we, you know, we've talked about Lovecraft and fantasy and
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  sci-fi writers and stuff like that.
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  Anything new on the palette lyrically this time around or is
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  it just more you go back to that same well?
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  Well, I mean, this is a concept record for sure, through and
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  through. You know, it's about artificial
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  intelligence. It's about technological
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  dystopian pathways that were sort of barreling down with no
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  regard to what the outcomes might be.
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  So yeah, I just felt very compelled to write about that
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  stuff this time around. Right on.
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  I do. I don't, I don't think AI is
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  evil per SE. I have seen all the sci-fi
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  movies. I am a big Terminator person.
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  You know, we've been using machine learning for a long
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  time, especially musicians, especially the music industry,
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  right? But I just think this hype, this
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  over reliance, this hype on everything is not good.
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  The little bit of grad school that I did and teaching that I
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  did, I think I would be mad today if I had to also run
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  everybody's papers through AI checkers and chitchat GPT
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  checkers and things like that would annoy the shit out of me
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  for the little bit of professoring that I did it for
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  marketing and, you know, holy shit, you know, so I don't know.
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  I, yeah, I think we can't be afraid of technology.
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  I think it's important, but at the same time, like, yeah, I'm
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  glad people it's important to have these conversations because
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  I just think there's so much hype and I'm I will be honest
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  and not that I'm trying to get a reaction out of you.
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  I'm disappointed that a Rick Rubin or a Timberland is like so
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  in on like Suno AI and things like that.
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  And like they're excited about making cheap robotic music when
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  these they've made some of the best records ever theoretically,
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  or at least according to some people.
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  So I don't know, man. I don't know.
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  That doesn't give me a lot of hope for the bigger music
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  industry. What a bummer.
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  But you got some guests on this record and I wanted to take a
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  second to talk about them. Love the Johnny Davy song.
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  But in general, when you were writing for someone out, you
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  know, you write for yourself, did you have these artists in
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  mind already and reached out? Did you just hand them a song?
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  What did you do? Yeah, I mean, I of course I
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  reached out to see if they were available and, and, and all of
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  that. I mean, I, I could hear their
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  voices on the, the, the tracks that they guested on and, and
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  thought they would be great additions to the record to kind
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  of help tell the story of the, of the, of the concept of the
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  record. And yeah, they, they delivered
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  amazing vocal performances. Johnny Davies sounds absolutely
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  inhuman. You know, Travis, of course,
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  he's got such a great, you know, unique but brutal voice.
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  And Luke Lemay, I love his voice.
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  It's very, it's super heavy, but it's also really tortured
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  sounding. So yeah, it was an honor having
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  all three of those vocalists and having Galad Hexaman on the
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  record, you know, famous world renowned jazz guitar player,
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  just an amazing musician all around.
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  It was an honor to have him as part of the record as well.
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  Right on. That's a big get for you.
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  I'm glad that some jazz artists are finding their way onto metal
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  records. I know what a big gore guts fan
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  you have always been and keeping it a little bit in the metal
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  blade family also, I'm sure that's awesome.
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  Too convenient. I know there was a time you
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  couldn't have everybody on your records just like 30 less than
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  30 years ago, and now it's like come be on my record.
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  No problem. So that's killer.
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  We love Travis here and we love Johnny.
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  I'm so thrilled that JFAC record made my whole year.
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  Last year I was like, we were like one of the first people to
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  report that they were going to come back at some point and it
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  happened and I'm really happy about it.
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  A lot of times when bands reunite, it's not for the right
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  reasons. Or, you know, come back records
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  and such as they are. Again, music journalism lingo,
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  not real music fan things, things that are not real for
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  most people. But yeah, great guest
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  appearances. I'm so stoked on this.
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  I want people to hear this whole thing.
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  I can't wait because you know, when I hear a good record and I
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  get to talk to somebody I've talked to a bunch of times over
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  the career, like you, I'm thrilled to see where it's
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  going. Like I know where it's been and
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  now I'm excited to see where it's going.
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  So I know once the fans get it, that's the true testament, but
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  I'm pumped you guys have been doing a little bit of touring.
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  Have you been playing any of the new stuff live yet or not yet?
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  Yeah, yeah, we've played, we've played Compounds of Infinity
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  live, we've played Cronenberg live now.
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  So yeah, it's seems like it's getting a really great reaction.
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  Cronenberg it's just so good. I couldn't have even thought
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  like, that's such such a good thing.
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  Like, you know, maybe there maybe you've been a writer this
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  whole time and didn't know you were supposed to be a
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  screenwriter or a or a book, a novelist.
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  Because like, that is such a good so many things to unpack
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  just with that title, let alone the song.
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  Thank you. Thank you.
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  Yeah, it's it's, you know, I have many different interests
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  and it's kind of fun to have Revocation be this vehicle where
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  I can try out some of my more insane ideas at this point.
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  So, yeah, it was, it was cool. I mean, I got some kind of like
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  help, you know, alongside the My Good Eye team, you know, Dave
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  Brodsky and Ally and kind of help Co direct this little mini
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  horror movie. So it was just a ton of fun and
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  act in it, you know, like, you know, it's it's fun to to, you
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  know, be turned into this hideous creature.
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  It was a good time. Yeah, for real.
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  We love, we love Dave and and Allison.
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  They're great. We my partner's done some work
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  with them on their cruise, so good stuff there.
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  Do you have a favorite Cronenberg movie?
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  I have to ask? Right.
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  Be the fly, yeah? So good.
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  It's still like ahead of its time.
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  Yeah. I feel like it's it's one of the
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  few things from that era that feels like an original movie.
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  Like there's it's so not direct. It's obviously like the whole
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  horror genres comes from some roots.
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  But like it felt so fresh and original, every bit of it that
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  like. It feels to me like the old
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  Universal movies, even where it's more suspenseful than
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  horrifying, which is the best. To me, that's the best.
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  Like a gotcha, a jump scare, a gore fest.
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  Those are fun, right? We love those.
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  It's it's about spooky season. So getting ready to do that.
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  Maybe they'll put the Fly on the list to watch this year.
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  I haven't seen it in quite a while.
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  We did just have the 50th anniversary of Jaws.
• 18:13
  So all the things from our childhood and right before are
• 18:16
  now like a big deal. I didn't see Jaws obviously till
• 18:19
  much later because I think if I had seen Jaws, I'd never go near
• 18:22
  a faucet, let alone a beach in my whole life.
• 18:25
  If I had seen Jaws as a child, a small imagine seeing Jaws as
• 18:29
  like a little child, You'd freak out.
• 18:31
  I think I saw it at first as a teenager on VHS.
• 18:34
  So yeah, man, again, just super proud of you with this record
• 18:40
  and super excited to share this interview and and our upcoming
• 18:44
  review. Any other thoughts what else you
• 18:47
  have going on? You always have other projects.
• 18:49
  Any of your other bands active? Or is it just Revocation Time
• 18:52
  right now? I mean, certainly I'm primarily
• 18:55
  focused on Revocation with the new record coming out, but you
• 18:58
  know, I'll take the time to plug some of my other things I got
• 19:01
  going on the Gargoyle record. The the second album is is
• 19:05
  pretty much finished. We're just kind of finalizing
• 19:07
  like some things with the masters right now.
• 19:09
  So I'm very excited for that. The Pallet Veil material is is
• 19:13
  kind of on hold right now since, you know, Luke's writing for the
• 19:16
  Gorguts record and I've got the, you know, the Revocation record
• 19:19
  about to come up. But certainly when he's, I'm
• 19:21
  ready to dive back into that. I already have some irons in the
• 19:24
  fire there, some different ideas cooking.
• 19:25
  So excited for that. You know, I just did a couple of
• 19:28
  jazz shows in in New York and and Richmond with some just
• 19:31
  really killer players. So that was a ton of fun.
• 19:33
  Hoping to do some more of that sort of in my downtime.
• 19:37
  I mean, my ultimate goal is just to just fill my, my, my coming
• 19:40
  years with as much music as I possibly can and, and, and just
• 19:44
  kind of continue to grow and collaborate with people.
• 19:47
  And yeah, it's but, but certainly my #1 focus for the,
• 19:52
  you know, next year or so is going to be Revocation since we
• 19:55
  have the new record and it's also going to be our 20 year
• 19:57
  anniversary. So it's going to be a lot of fun
• 19:59
  things coming down the pipeline there.
• 20:00
  Totally killer. I of course am also stoked to
• 20:02
  hear about some some jazz work. Live.
• 20:06
  Especially, you know, later in life, if you feel like you're
• 20:09
  slowing down, hopefully not anytime soon, and you want to
• 20:13
  just sit on a stool and Pizzarelli, this motherfucker
• 20:15
  and Johnny Smith, this thing. You could do it.
• 20:17
  I know you can. I've gotten to see a lot of your
• 20:20
  different bands. Would love to see you do some
• 20:23
  jazz group stuff. I could.
• 20:26
  I could totally see the Dave Davidson Quartet someday.
• 20:29
  I'm into it. I know you would be too.
• 20:31
  Thank you very much. Well, yeah, hopefully in all
• 20:34
  this chaos I'll find some time to do a little, do a little
• 20:37
  writing and arranging for that. So.
• 20:39
  Yeah, right on. I'm going to wish it into
• 20:41
  existence. That's there we.
• 20:43
  Go. Dave, man, it's always a
• 20:45
  pleasure. Thank you for supporting us over
• 20:47
  the years. I've been very honored to
• 20:48
  support you back. It's it's very gratifying to see
• 20:51
  everything you have put together with the band and and outside
• 20:54
  too. Thank you so much, my brother.
• 20:56
  It's a pleasure as always. And yeah, that's the cool thing
• 20:59
  about metal. It's it's, it's a very, you
• 21:02
  know, communal thing. We all help each other out and
• 21:06
  you know, bands wouldn't exist without folks like you and vice
• 21:09
  versa. So I it's a very symbiotic
• 21:12
  relationship and we're all part of this strange and beautiful
• 21:17
  and disgusting Petri dish known as the metal scene.
• 21:20
  And I wouldn't have it any other way so.
• 21:22
  Strange. Yeah, strange, but good, Bella.
• 21:25
  Bedfellows and germs. I'm happy to be 1.
• 21:28
  We'll see you next, hopefully on the road.
• 21:30
  Sounds good man.