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201: Zac & Dakota Are The WORST - Secret Lives of Mormon Season Finale (S1 E7-8) · Reality TV Cringe

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  Speaker 2: Well, last week we were still in Vegas. Yes, miss
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  Speaker 2: Chippendale's fiasco's so vulgar. Oh my god, Jen and Taylor
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  Speaker 2: had the audacity to walk inside Chippendales. They haven't even
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  Speaker 2: seen any strippers yet, and yet Dakota and Zach flip out,
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  Speaker 2: especially Zach. Yes, So we pick up right where we
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  Speaker 2: left off with Jen fucking crying because Zach just spewed
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  Speaker 2: some obscenities at her, said I'm gonna leave your ass.
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  Speaker 2: We're getting a divorce because you're not a woman of morals.
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  Speaker 2: As he's gambling all of her money away, right.
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  Speaker 1: That he did not work for after apparently gambling his
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  Speaker 1: parents' money away. His parents gave him money so he
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  Speaker 1: could go to college and go to medical school, and
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  Speaker 1: he ran right through that gambling, which I guess is
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  Speaker 1: okay though if you're a Mormon, right, gambling's not a
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  Speaker 1: sin or something. Oh, I guess, actually it is a sin.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but rules for the and not for me, correct
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  Speaker 2: is what Zach's philosophy is. And Jess talks about how
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  Speaker 2: she hates men like this, especially in the church. This
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  Speaker 2: is why she distanced herself from it.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's safe to say we all hate men
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  Speaker 1: like this. I hate people like this, but I especially
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  Speaker 1: hate men like this of course.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but apparently I was talking to eth Al about it.
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  Speaker 2: This is so common like in the LDS Church, like
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  Speaker 2: men like this because it is kind of a patriarchal religion,
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  Speaker 2: I of I mean very much so. And a lot
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  Speaker 2: of these men are like this, where they just fuck
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  Speaker 2: around and do all this stupid shit, but the wives
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  Speaker 2: have to be perfect.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It smells to me like deep
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  Speaker 1: in security. Like mister Zach Affleck has a very small
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  Speaker 1: pamper penis, a very much so baby penis, and so
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  Speaker 1: he can't even fathom a world where his wife is
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  Speaker 1: seeing men with average to large sized penises and like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, she's gonna realize, Holy fuck, I've been
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  Speaker 1: supporting this, this translucent hitler youth person. I've been paying
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  Speaker 1: all of his bills. He's gambling away my money and
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  Speaker 1: he's got a baby penis. Game over. Yeah, let me
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  Speaker 1: just leave with one of these Chippendale gay dancers.
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  Speaker 2: That's what Jed should do. Yes, we should have done.
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  Speaker 2: Loved that for you, Jen would be It's so great,
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  Speaker 2: But no, Jen and Taylor want to be good Mormon ladies,
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  Speaker 2: and they end up leaving Chippendale's all together. They're like, no,
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  Speaker 2: we got to respect her our man's for some reason,
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  Speaker 2: even though they're not respectable, and they leave. They go home,
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  Speaker 2: I think with Mikayla two or whenever. She's such a
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  Speaker 2: background character.
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  Speaker 1: Step up Mikayla for real, it's her throat Chokraate.
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  Speaker 2: And they get back home and Jen is like sobbing
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  Speaker 2: because Zach's not answering any of her texts or her
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  Speaker 2: phone calls or anything. He's super pissed off while he's
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  Speaker 2: gambling her money away. And I can't remember what really happened.
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  Speaker 2: But Jen ends up leaving.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, at two in the morning, after he's done gambling. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so he's being abusive to her overtext while he is
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  Speaker 1: busying himself losing all of her money. And then as
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  Speaker 1: soon as he has done it one thirty or two
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  Speaker 1: in the morning, he says, Okay, we'll get over here
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  Speaker 1: right now or it's over. And so of course she
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  Speaker 1: goes running after that asshole Midman, that midman and the
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  Speaker 1: low abby. Yep, she lea everybody. She leaves the girl's
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  Speaker 1: trip to go and work it out with Zach into
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  Speaker 1: the evening into the morning.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, and apparently they had like a horrible like long
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  Speaker 2: argument slash talk. They ended up working things out. But
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  Speaker 2: while this is happening, Jen's ignoring all of the girls's
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  Speaker 2: calls and texts, and they're all like super concerned for her.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's a crazy person. Yeah, he looks like
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  Speaker 1: a crazy person and he acts like a crazy person.
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  Speaker 1: And so Dateline, NBC Anyone for real, first forty eight anyone.
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  Speaker 1: So they're kind of worried, like what is he doing
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  Speaker 1: to her?
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  Speaker 2: Seriously, I mean, she's ghosting everybody, and I was kind
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  Speaker 2: of worried for her too. She ends up being fine,
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  Speaker 2: we'll get to that later. And then meanwhile, we have
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  Speaker 2: fucking Whitney back in Utah.
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  Speaker 1: Don't care. Connor apparently talked to Jesse's husband. Okay, gossiping
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  Speaker 1: with the.
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  Speaker 2: Queen, gossiping with the guy.
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  Speaker 1: That's terrible, but like, okay, really yeah, okay, Apparently they
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  Speaker 1: were gossiping.
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  Speaker 2: Jordan told him everything that happened in Vegas. So Connor's
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  Speaker 2: gotta be the gay best friend to Whitney and tell
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  Speaker 2: her everything that's happening. And Whitney tries to pretend like
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  Speaker 2: she doesn't care. She's like, I don't really give a fuck.
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  Speaker 2: I don't like any of them. I'm on the side
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  Speaker 2: of Zach.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, she's like, because Jen is not a friend
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  Speaker 1: to me, Like, since then Jen was sitting in the closet, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: with you when Demi was coming for your neck and
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  Speaker 1: she was defending you and she's a saint, and what
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  Speaker 1: are you talking about she's not a friend.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is Whitney we're talking about.
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  Speaker 1: She's a bitch, right. I don't know who said that.
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  Speaker 1: Whitney has a propensity to like sidle up to somebody,
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  Speaker 1: get close to somebody, take them for everything that she
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  Speaker 1: can get and then toss them aside. Jess said that yeap,
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  Speaker 1: and this is exactly what she's doing to Jen.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll see her in the next episode when she
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  Speaker 2: shows up at Mikayla's birthday. Girl, what the fuck was that?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get to it though. And then we have Jen
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  Speaker 2: finally texting to me like the day after, like way
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  Speaker 2: in the afternoon, and she's like, yeah, I'm okay, and
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  Speaker 2: to me immediately calls her and she's like, what the
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  Speaker 2: fuck happened between you and Zach? And Jen's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I no, Like we're totally fine now, like we worked
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  Speaker 2: it out. It's so great, Like he totally apologized. He's
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  Speaker 2: so awesome, he's amazing, We're great.
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  Speaker 1: Gosh. Friends like this are so exhausting. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if you've ever had a friend who was in a
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  Speaker 1: situation that I'm not talking about like straight up abuse,
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  Speaker 1: but just like is with a loser, Yeah, is therefore
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  Speaker 1: subjected to loser shenanigans and is constantly complaining about it
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  Speaker 1: and or you're witnessing it. I mean, it is exhausting.
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  Speaker 1: Like you can't want somebody to respect their own selves
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  Speaker 1: more than they want to do that, yep, but you
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  Speaker 1: also want to be there for them of course. And
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  Speaker 1: of course later like all the girls gather around Jen
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  Speaker 1: and they have like a little conversation and they actually
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  Speaker 1: get in her ask quite a bit about her husband,
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  Speaker 1: which I loved. That was so especially Jesse and to me,
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  Speaker 1: which I loved. But like, at some point, I'm just like, lady,
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  Speaker 1: if all you're doing is talking about Mormonism and how
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  Speaker 1: great you're fucked up loser of a husband is, then
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  Speaker 1: I I just don't have time for you in my life.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, for real low quality.
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  Speaker 2: Like you make your bed, you know you gotta lie
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  Speaker 2: in it, no vibes for real, terrible, Like this guy's awful,
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  Speaker 2: and she even calls him a narcissist later when she's
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  Speaker 2: talking to the girls.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy, So.
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  Speaker 2: She knows she's conscious. She's just staying with him for
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  Speaker 2: why I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. She's the bread winner. She could kick
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  Speaker 1: his ass to the curve of anybody that she wants,
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  Speaker 1: of course.
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  Speaker 2: But she won't. No, And then we have Dakota coming
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  Speaker 2: over to the house later.
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  Speaker 1: To just leave these girls alone. It is literally a
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  Speaker 1: girl's trip. They don't want guys over at the house.
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  Speaker 1: But you storm in because you haven't had a full
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  Speaker 1: conversation with Taylor because the night before you were all
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  Speaker 1: insecure because she was at the Chippendales, because you two, sir,
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  Speaker 1: have a pamper pine, and so you need to get
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  Speaker 1: all up in her face while she's heavy with chob,
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  Speaker 1: heavy with child. You want to get all the way
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  Speaker 1: up in her face while she's lying down, super pregnant,
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  Speaker 1: and try to work this relationship out because once again
• 9:00
  Speaker 1: you're bothered that she's not committing to you. Yeah, like, stop,
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: well did you see too much?
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  Speaker 2: Did you see his pupils in this scene?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 2: They were hella dilated, And I'm like, you on something.
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  Speaker 1: Dude, it did seem like it.
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  Speaker 2: And he is the biggest bitch baby of them all
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  Speaker 2: because right before this, he was calling up Brett while
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  Speaker 2: they were at Chippendale's and he was talking about how
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  Speaker 2: he didn't like the idea of these sweaty gay men gaysts. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: grinding up on Taylor's pregnant ass while she's pregnant with
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  Speaker 2: his kid. I'm like, you are ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: You are so weak, you are so dumb, it's not
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  Speaker 1: a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: And then you come over and the girls are like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Taylor's sleeping, Like, don't bother her, and he barges in anywhere.
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: He runs up the stairs bypassing the girls on the
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  Speaker 1: lower level who want him to go away. Yeah, because
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  Speaker 1: he's high and because he doesn't care, and he wants
• 9:48
  Speaker 1: to stomp all over Taylor's boundaries, and he thinks if
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: he can get up in her face and continue to
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  Speaker 1: be there right in her face, she won't dump him.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like crazy.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, sidebar, we know that they broke up,
• 10:02
  Speaker 1: well yeah, but now they're back together. Huh.
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  Speaker 2: Unfortunately I post that about it on her ig. Why
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  Speaker 2: I don't literally why his dick game cannot be that good.
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  Speaker 2: It's got to be the hormones or something. Her being like, well,
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  Speaker 2: but like, my child needs a dad, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: Your kid's probably better off without this loser.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, does he even work?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 1: Does he have a job? What does he do?
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  Speaker 2: He's hot, Taylor walks, he's doing drugs. He's a piece
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  Speaker 2: of shit. And then we have the girls going to dinner,
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  Speaker 2: but Jen's not there because she's still talking with Zach.
• 10:38
  Speaker 1: Well, she's got a change his stipers. Yes, he's got
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: a bit of a raption. So she's got to powder
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: his balls and changes diapers.
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: That's so funny, so for real though, so true. And
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: so she ends up calling them while they're in the
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: middle of eating and she's like, oh, I'm a late,
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: like I want to make make it to dinner, and
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: they're like, no, we're doing other stuff.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we order, we're eating, Like what do you
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: think it's like nine o'clock, Like.
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  Speaker 2: What the fuck do bite? Jen ends up coming over
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: at some point to talk with them outside the restaurant
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  Speaker 2: or something, and it's where all the girls gang up
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  Speaker 2: on her.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was great, that was really great. Yeah, Jesse
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  Speaker 1: was telling her, I'm literally disgusted by your husband. Who
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: does he think he is talking about all of our marriages?
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  Speaker 1: Because in the text that he was sending Jen that
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: night when she was crying after the Chippendales, he's like,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, why do you care about all of these
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: women and what they have to say, like look at
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  Speaker 1: their marriages and starts criticizing all these girls and I'm
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  Speaker 1: just like, zah a.
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  Speaker 2: Piece of shit. And that's why Jesse brings it up,
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: because she's like, it's not fair that he treats you
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  Speaker 2: like shit. But then he has to bring all of
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: us and all of our husbands into this. That's not
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: fucking cool. He disrespects all of us, and he disrespects
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  Speaker 2: you like he's a piece of shit. And Jen just
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: looks so fucking defeated.
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  Speaker 1: He starts crying, and I get it, yeah, because they're
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: not ganging up on her, but they're like all trying
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: to yes, and they're very direct with her because he
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: is so terrible and they are legitimately concerned for her.
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: But she starts breaking down and crying and realizing that yes,
• 12:11
  Speaker 1: it's bad, but we had like the best conversation. He
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: really gets it. You guys don't understand. He's so sorry. Now,
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: No he's not.
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  Speaker 2: No, he's not.
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  Speaker 1: We've been around the world in Aii, We've seen a
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: million guys like Zach. Yeah, when you're forty and looking
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: back at that weird headed man girl, thinking of all
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: the time you wasted with that two inch micro penis,
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be like, what the fuck was I thinking?
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: Seriously subsidizing his college education, probably paying for his medical school,
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: while he's gambling away your money, telling you he doesn't
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: give a shit about mom. Talk, we'll get there. He's like,
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: I don't care about mom talk and what you're doing
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: really well? Then how do you pay your mortgage? Though? Like,
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: how do you afford your cars? Then? How do you
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: go to school? If you don't care about mom talk?
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: Zach? And then he forces her to move to go
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: to net school. Girl, I just ooh this.
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: Man, Yeah, let's move to New York in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: four with all the rats and all the attacks in
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: the street and the subway drama. That sounds fantastic. Me
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: and my two little babies will move with you to
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: New York, where you'll neglect me because you're a misogynist
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  Speaker 1: piece of shit yep.
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, how are you gonna afford that?
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: Though?
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: When she's the one that's paying for everything. Oh, your
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: parents are probably gonna pay for you to live up.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: There, probably, I don't know. I think she's going to
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: continue to pay for it.
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I would like to hear more about
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: their queen situation, but jen the fact that she is
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: saying that he's got these narcissistic tendencies that only come
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: out every few months or whatever, and she's justifying that like,
• 13:38
  Speaker 2: oh no, he's just going through a lot. That's why
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: he becomes a narcissistic, misogynistic piece ass.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: No piece of shit. You don't temporarily become narcissistic. You
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: have a personality disorder called narcissism. Yeah, and if it's
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: happening every few months, well what you are describing as
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: a cycle, it is a pattern. This person has a
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: personality disorder. You in danger?
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: You in danger girl? And I feel bad for her
• 14:00
  Speaker 2: because she's totally a victim and she's hypnotized by this
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: guy and his translucent hair. I just don't understand.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: I don't get it either.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: I don't get it.
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: I don't get it either.
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  Speaker 2: And then in the last episode the season finale, we
• 14:13
  Speaker 2: have Taylor heavy with child. She's confronting Dakota about this
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: Macy's confession because we kind of brought it up through
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: the last episodes, but it was kind of like a
• 14:24
  Speaker 2: nothing burger, like Macy's like do I tell her? Do
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: I tell her?
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  Speaker 1: Not? Like, well, a little bit of context, so Macy
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: had received this not a DM, but she does like
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: this question and answer thing on her TikTok slash Instagram
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  Speaker 1: where people can confess something that's going on in their lives.
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  Speaker 1: So somebody has written in and confessed that they slept
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: with Dakota when he was already with Taylor, which is
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: something that Taylor is currently worried about, and if she
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: finds out that Dakota cheated on her, she will leave
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: his sorry, fentanyl addicted ass. And so here comes this confession.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: He's been sitting on it because she's like, oh my god,
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: she's about to give birth. My friend's about to give birth.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: She's already in a terrible predicament with Dakota, who's constantly
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: in her face and screaming at her and or crying.
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  Speaker 1: When do I tell her about this confession?
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  Speaker 2: Yep, Well she had up telling her yes, and Taylor's like,
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: thanks for telling me. I have a feeling I think
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: that this is true, but I'll have to talk to
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: him about it. She thinks it's this girl named Jenna,
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: who's a girl that she was worried about from their
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: very beginning. Dakota told Taylor that he only kissed her
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: on accident or whatever, right, but Taylor's worried that something
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: more happened. So then it's the next day after Chippendale's
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: or whatever. I don't know what the timeline is. But
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: she's like putting together some diaper trash can or something,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: and her mom calls her. She tells her about Vegas,
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: tells her about Dakota being a piece of shit. Her
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: mom's like, you're ruining your life.
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: Why are you doing this? Why are you with this guy?
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: He's a piece of shit. You need to talk to him.
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: And then conveniently, he walks through the door. Right, So
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: then Taylor talks to Dakota about it and is like, yeah,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: so Macy got this confession. I want to make sure
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: that it's not true. And then Dakota immediately gets defensive,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: starts yelling, starts yelling, and turns it around on her, says,
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: you're the one that creates all these problems, and Macy
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: causes this drama in a relationship. And I'm like, if
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: you were telling the truth, why are you so defensive?
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Why are you yelling at her? Why are you blaming her? Yeah,
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: why aren't you just assuring her in a calm voice, like, look,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: we've talked about this, this is not true, Like, why
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: are you doing all this because he's a liar? You
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: sound like a cheater? Yeah, because he totally did absolutely,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I believe it.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: Totally slept with this chick.
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: But now he's mad at Macy. Yep. Not because he's
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: not mad that he actually cheated on Taylor. He's mad
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: at Macy because Macy told Taylor about the confession, and
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: also because Macy does tend to see their relationship up close.
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: Taylor confides in Macy, and so Macy's always counseling her
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: to dump this looser yea, and Dakota knows it. So
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: now Dakota wants to have a little bit of a
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: meeting with Macy in her car. Yeah.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: He immediately is like, yeah, I need to talk to you.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: Because he doesn't own his own car.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: No, of course, because he's broke. No, he doesn't even
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: have furniture.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: No, no, not at all.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: He has nothing. So he gets in the car with
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Macy and immediately is also kind of yelling at her,
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: and he's like, you cause all this fucking drama in
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: my relationship, Why do you have to bring up this confession?
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: And Macy's like, why are you mad at me? Some
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: bitch messaged me anonymously about this, and so of course
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: I'm going to bring it up to my friend because
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: I'm loyal.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: To my friend. I am not loyal to you, bitch, period,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: point blank.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: And he has like nothing else to say other than like, well,
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: it's not true. And I don't know why you had
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: to bring it up.
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: Why are you causing all these problems in my relationship.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: I'm like, you're deflecting your gas lamping, which is what
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: my husband calls it. You're gas lamping me for real.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: Get out of my car, Dakota and go walk home by.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Seriously so stupid. And then we shift gears a little
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: bit and we have Whitney and Connor at their family dinner,
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: and Whitney has a special announcement and a special cake
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: that she made for her family m M, and her
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: mom starts slicing into this cake and when he's like, yeah,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: you feel something weird in there, and her mom's like, yeah,
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: something kind of hard. What the fuck is this? Pulls
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: out her raw pea stick, her raw pregnancy test. Yes,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: that shows that it's positive. It's not wrapped up in anything,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: it's not put in a plastic bag or anything. It's
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: just in there, raw dogging in the cake. And Whenne's like, yeah,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: I thought it'd be funny, like unique, that I would
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: shut announcement thanks for making me touch it, and those
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: sister at the table's like that's fucking gross, dude, like
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: you peed on it and have to move all the
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: frosting away from the little pregnancy yes or no window.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: It's disgusting on every level. Whitney, You're disgusting. She's so
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: fucking weird. The RSV video, the raw pregnancy test, and
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: the case.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Like, where are any of the redeeming qualities that she's
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: supposed to have to make me want to care about her?
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: I don't know, there's none.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: I literally don't care. And she talks about mom talk
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: and how she doesn't want anything to do with anybody.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Sure, but you're coming back for season two, and also
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: you use that money to support your family because what
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: does your husband do anyways? So sure?
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well she's selling a bunch of vibrators now, so
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: she's got her ads for that and stuff. So she's
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: you know, sex positive. Uh huh, she's got her own brand.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I'm sure next season is just gonna be drama, drama, drama,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: It's just gonna be Whitney. Well, we'll see, because she
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: got dragged so thoroughly by everyone this season she might
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: try to produce herself and come back as a person
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: who's been redeemed. I've been redeemed by the blood of
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: the Mormon lamb, not by me. Nope.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: And then we have Jen and Zach. They've been talking
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: and praying a lot. They're talking about their future God,
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: and this is where Zach's like, well, I got accepted
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: to my dream medical school in New York, so you
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: better come with me and abandon your career and abandon
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: all your friends and family and everything everything you've ever known,
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: and come and live with me in New York while
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: I go to med school on your dime, by the way, yep.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: And she's like, well, but what about mom talk? I mean,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: what she's really saying, what about the only income that
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: we are currently generating, which is the work that I do.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: He's like, honestly, I don't care.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: I don't give a shit about it at all.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Like what she's making all this money for you, dude.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: It's the only source of power that she really has though, yep.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: And it's through the money that she makes and being
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: the breadwinner that she's able to assert herself and find
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: her voice. So if he can take that away from her.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: Then she'll just be a little robot, which is what
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: he wants, which is what the girls call out.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: To yep, And that's what abusers do. And she ends
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: up going to New York with him like.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: A dummy, God, like a dummy.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I don't get it. And we have Macy with her
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Baby Mama business launch party. Yeah, she invites all of
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: the girls, including Whitney, who is her.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Best friend yep, and who she has been loyal to
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: this entire time. Even though Whitney has been objectively a
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: mean girl and an awful person, Macy has stood buy
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: her nonetheless. And so this is the one thing Macy's doing.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: This is her baby Mama launch, this is her business.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: She's been working on it for two years, and she
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: expects Whitney to show up and support but does she. No, No,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: she does not.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: And all the girls at the party are like, if
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: she doesn't show up by the time of the actual launch,
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: because they do like a little countdown or whatever, let's
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: unfollow her at the same time off of social media.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: And I think they end up doing that. Yes, And
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: then we have Mikayla's birthday party, which is like the
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: last kind of big scene of the series, and everybody
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: shows up, including Whitney.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, very strangely, like not even at the beginning of
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the party. It's after everybody's roller skated, yep, after everybody
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: he has had some food, and she waltzes in and
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: her weird cowboy boots and her weird shirt dress and
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: she just expects everybody to be like, oh my god,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: hi Whitney. Yeah, but no, everybody's giving her the side eye,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: like what the fuck are you doing here? Mikayla isn't
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: even your friend. She does not like you, which Jesse
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: tells her that to her face. Why are you at
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: this party because Mikayla doesn't even like you and you
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: didn't go to Macy's party the only person who does
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: like you, weirdo, Like.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: What the actual fuck? And Whitney tries to be like, no,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I'm here for Michayla, like I care about her, and
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: then once Jesse's like, but she fucking hates you though,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: then Whitney's like, no, but I actually wanted to talk
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: to Macy. Macy, can I talk to you? And then
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: she kind of gives her like a half assed apology
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: but not really, and it's like, well, I couldn't come
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: to your launch party, like the biggest thing of your
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: life right now, this business that you're starting up. I
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: couldn't be there as your best friend because I just
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: like need a time's bees from everybody else.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: And Macey's like from me, and Whitney's like, yeah, yeah,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: from you, from you tune Like Jesus Christ, nobody needs
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: a Whitney in their life. No, you're so expendable, young lady.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: You have no idea how important all of these relationships
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: actually are. And how you are acting is so distasteful.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: And one day you're gonna look back and you're not
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: gonna have any friends because you know what, You're not
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: a good friend, and you attract what you are, uh huh,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: and you're going to attract shitty people yep, and lose
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: all the good ones in your life.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: You'll end up washed up and alone with your gay husband. Congrats,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: And we have Taylor having her baby. Dakota has been
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: supportive during her.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Birth, yes, but I mean it was kind of annoying
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: right yet, like her water breaks, they're at her town
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: home or whatever. They're immediately up on the Gram or
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: they're immediately filming, and just the way that Dakota is
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: so over the top, like he loves being in her videos.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: He really wants to be a part of what she creates.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: He's just like fucking front and center. And then when
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: they get to the birthing room or the delivery room
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: and he's just like, I don't know, there was something
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: about it. He just looked like looked like he wanted
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: to be the center of attention even though she's the
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: one who's giving birth. It gave me the ick, like
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: he always has to be around her like a fucking
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: urchin sticking his head into the frame.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Get out of here. I would be so annoyed with
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: that shit, like leave me alone. They have their baby,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: their baby's beautiful, Taylor's great, blah blah blah, don't care.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: And then we have Jen calls Jess to announce that
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: she's leaving Mom Talk because she's gonna go to New York.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: So we have two girls out of mom Talk.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Good riddance, bye, Oh mom Talk.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Ever survived the gonna do they do?
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: These two girls are gonna come crawling back for sure,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: because they want the money, they want the brand new,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: and they want the fame. Yep, And then the whole series,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: and season ends with a cliffhanger, which is Macy in
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: her car calling up a woman named Jenna to ask
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: if she slept with Dakota. And Jenna is the girl
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: we present Zoom who sent him that confessional to Macy's
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: account saying that she slept with Dakota while Dakota was
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: with Taylor. And so Macy is presumably calling and saying
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I want the details, and the girl says, I'll tell
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: you everything that happened, and that is how we end
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: season one. Presumably we're gonna find out that Dakota did,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: in fact cheat on Taylor. I don't know if that
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: is what led to Taylor breaking up with him, probably recently,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: or whether that was something else. I don't know. But
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: then she's back with him. Well now she's back with him,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: and I'm like why, I have no idea. I don't understand,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: but I can't wait for season two. I am sold
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: me too on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. I think
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: this is how we should do reality TV. Now, some
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: of it was produced, some of the events. I mean,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: we're doing ax throwing, We're doing stupid bullshit. I don't
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: know if we did ax throwing, did we do it
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: rage rooms or something like something that shit, I'm tired of. Yeah,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: but like these were real relationships, pre existing, real relationships,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: actual drama, and I loved it me too.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: So what's our grade for this season?
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: I'm going to give this a solid B. Me too, B. Yeah.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I would definitely cover it next year if it comes back, which.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: It's going to. Yeah, twenty episodes, yeah shit, I mean
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: that's a lot.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we might have to bundle it up a little
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: bit for sure, but yeah, I'm into it me too. Okay, Well,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: let us know in the comments if you're watching on
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: YouTube what you all think about mom Talk or the show.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Did you all like it?
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: Let us know?
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what are your thoughts? Is there anything else that
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: we have to say to these beautiful raccoons before we
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: get out of here?
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Beatrice, Well, if you love our podcast, I sure, oh
• 26:36
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• 26:38
  Speaker 2: a glowing five star review. It really helps us grow
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: the pod so more people can join the dumpster. We
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: really appreciate it.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Thank you. We will be back next week to talk
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: sister wives, and for a little while, that's going to
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: be the only thing we're going to be covering. On
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: the General Pod until we're inspired, yeah like a Marie Condo.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Need the joy in some sort of a show, Yeah,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: to bring it into the little Pod. But we will
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: be back for that, and so make sure you come back,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: and until then, please do not forget that we have
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: nothing but love for you and peace.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: A night, my guys,