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Kent Hovind OFFICIAL on The News | Accused of Enabling Pedophiles at Dinosaur Adventure Land · Brett Keane and Eve Show

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I am the Alpha and the Omega first.
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I'll tell you a secret. Give me here.
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Well, hello, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Brett Keen
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from God TV radio. If anyone would like to join me
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in disgust, this news article that was recently, put out that
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is causing explosions all over YouTube and the internet poof.
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It's a pretty amazing preacher accused of an enabling pedophile
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at creationist. I know theme park.
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Yeah, I warned Kent hovind about this.
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I Warned him that if he kept on protecting and defending
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pedophiles and doing all that he would come on my show and say,
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oh this guy. So wonderful.
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This guy so great. He didn't do anything wrong.
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It was a big set up by the government and the police and
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all that. Well, the journalists have
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gotten hold of the story. And, you know, how the
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journalist can be boy, when they see blood in the water.
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It's like that's rough. It is bigoted.
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Anybody that wants to join me on this?
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I'm going to read what we have on the screen and we're going to
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discuss. All right, so hoof says, ungodly
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right under it. Oh, goodness, gracious.
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I remember being told by Kent and Matt Powell recently that I
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wasn't Godly because I use colorful language, sometimes in
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my videos, well, in contrast and comparison to their behaviors
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and what they've allowed to happen, the kind of said that
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make you fizzle. It's the irony has not escaped
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me. Let's take a look at what we got
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folks. X, residence of the theme park,
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where a child drowned in 2020. That's so sad.
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Say A Man convicted a plane strip poker.
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With young, boys brought a child to the park and shared a bed
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with him. Now, if many of you remember, if
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you go to my Odyssey page, according to Kent, the guy only
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stayed for a night. Only one night with the boy, if
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that's not enough by itself. But then after talking to Paul
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Hanson, as well as many other of the cult members down there, I
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discovered that this went on for a week.
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Apparently the pedophile remained Arne, dinosaur.
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Dance your land for a week with a child and many other kids and
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The Residency an area. Let's take a look.
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Oh good. - that looks familiar. Who's that fella?
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Alright, let me make sure that my before I start reading that
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my microphone is turned all the way up so you guys can hear me.
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Yeah, looks good. Looks good.
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Looks like we're going to be doing it.
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The link is out in the comments. Folks, if you'd like to come in
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and discuss your views on this. So here's what the news article
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says, Billy Summers had only known Kent Open for a couple of
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days. When Holden told him about the
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convicted child, sex offender, who sometimes visited, Holden's
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Christian amusement park. Oh.
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And by the way, I actually got Chris Jones recorded on my phone
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because mr. Kent hovind gave the guy my
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phone number. That's right.
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He gave the guy, my phone number and I ended up actually talking
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to this guy and he was supposed to come up on.
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God TV radio and explain him. Himself and why it is?
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He has such an interest and little people for, but of course
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after many many times of claiming that he was going to
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come on never dead and instead Kent hovind himself said that he
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was going to have Chris Jones down again to Dinosaur Adventure
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Land, amongst all the children and that they would be having a
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conversation on video are now the, big Kent hovind official
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Channel. Well, we didn't really see all
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that. That way.
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Hey, it's mr. Father.
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Charles, how you doing? I'm glad that you came.
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I don't know if you've heard. But Mr. Kent toes and has made
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prime time. He's on the news now.
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Oh yes. I read the whole TV TV whole
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newspaper article. Well, I don't know if you heard
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what I had said, Father Charles, but I actually played in audio
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recording on my show yesterday of Chris Jones.
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I don't know if you knew this but Kent actually gave Chris
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Jones, my phone. Own number and tried to get me
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to interview him and defend him and all this kind of stuff.
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And I told Chris Jones, man, you got a huge rap heat.
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There ain't no way I'm going to defend you messing around with
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little kids and all this. But I'll tell you what it will
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do. You can come on the show and you
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can explain yourself and blah, blah, blah, do whatever, you
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know, try to, you know, put it out there, whatever.
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Ken Tobin's, trying to claim our you today, by the way, before I
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continue on into this article, Wanted to have had a great day
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today. Got a lot of stuff done.
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That's a great day for me. Getting a lot of stuff
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accomplished oof goodness gracious.
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So you do remember though, I don't know if you recall or not
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or how closely were following in, but although, Chris Jones
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didn't make it to my show, according to Kent hovind, he was
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going to be putting Chris Jones on his show and they were
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supposed to talk. Remember, do you recall that?
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Yeah, okay. Well, let's continue.
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Warren through it. If you feel that you want to say
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something about anything that I read, feel free to just say hey
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Brett, can I say something about that?
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All right. Okay, sounds good.
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And by a bright, am I echoing at all?
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I'll put my headphones on. If I am, let me get rid of Tommy
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dry water real quick. He is banned permanently.
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See you later, buddy. All right.
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So, Billy Summers had only known Ken, told them for a couple of
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days, when Hogan told him about the Victim child sex offender
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who sometimes those are than Holden's Christian amusement
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park, they were in Hogan's car. Picking up supplies for dinosaur
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Adventure, Land the creationist theme park that hovind operates
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in a quiet pocket of. Alabama Hogan spoke about a
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longtime friend who had done time for battery and committing
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lewd acts and children under the age of 14.
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Now, wait a minute, father I thought That the guy was
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supposed to be innocent. What's he doing in prison,
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right? Yeah, he can't always claim
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that. This guy was innocent.
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That he was railroaded. I finally took them.
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Yes, they needed to convict someone.
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So Christians was railroaded. I mean, why do they know why
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exactly did they need to convince someone?
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It seems like their government does a pretty good job but
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getting their man whenever they want them.
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Well supposedly this one, all this started, they started real.
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If you remember back in the day they were ramping up sexual
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predators. They started the whatever, it's
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called the list. What's it called?
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Brad, you know what? All about maybe.
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There's a list you go on if you're convicted of a sexual
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crime. Now a pedophile list anyway.
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All the police departments were supposedly Arete according to
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can they needed a victim, they got are not a victim, they
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needed a perpetrator and Chris Jones.
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That's why he was convicted. Well there's one thing I noticed
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that Kent that and that he failed to mention to you as well
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as myself whenever he was going into all that Spiel, it'd be one
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thing if it was just a string they'll supposed strip poker
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deal that he went to prison for but doesn't he got like 10 other
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things at different dates and times of doing things with kids?
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Yeah I don't know the exact count list.
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I want to say, And I could be, I want to say there were eight
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counts against him. So what is the Father Charles?
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As far as you're concerned, what is the logic?
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If you know that you've been your have the government after
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you the cia's behind every corner and the FBI's on the
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Shadows, always watching you and trying to get you, what is the
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intelligence and putting a child under your car.
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And then going down there to stay for a week with a kid.
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That's not even related to you. What's where's the logic in
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that? There's no law.
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Logic. It's a, I would call it sexual
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desire. Freaky sexual desire.
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Yeah wooof goodness gracious. Hmm.
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Alright let's continue on, they were in Holdens car.
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Picking up supplies for dinosaur Adventure, Land the creationist
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theme park that hold and operates in a quiet pocket of
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Alabama. Okay so we got all the this
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Hoban claim. The conviction was a sham and
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that the friend was actually being persecuted for his work,
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exposing the New World Order. I'm sorry.
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Well, I laughed when I read that.
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Sorry, I'm a babe in Christ, folks, I hear New World Order
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and I immediately think WCW Wrestling and all that.
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Sorry about that. And my head, I was like, well,
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I'm stuck out in the middle of Alabama right now riding along
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with him. So I can't say, nothing Summers,
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told The Daily Beast. So hold on a second.
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Let me get rid of this person. Person.
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We got a guy who decided to come in yesterday an atheist.
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Who felt the need to throw pornography up on the screen.
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So I'm being very careful about who I allow in the room.
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Apparently there's more wacky people out there than just Chris
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Jones if you get where I'm going with that.
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All right, so so the journalists I didn't want to say anything at
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the time because he was actually in the automobile with Ken toga.
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And I mean what do you do when We're all.
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This is dropped on you as a journalist, you, but what do you
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do about that? Yeah, so let's see and
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interviews with former workers and recordings from internal Dow
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meetings. People close to the theme park.
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Expressed concern about Holden's Cavalier attitude towards crime
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on the compound. Well, apparently, the news
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journalist also believe it's a compound.
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What do you know about? Yeah, at that's all she refers
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to da. Now is the compound.
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Now, I don't know if you, you obviously probably remember a
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fellow while back then maybe aggression Jones, Jim Jones.
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Oh, yeah. And then, that guy.
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Yeah, David crying. Hold on.
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Let me, let me drop my camera thing of OBS, because I'm
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getting a little bit of leg that go.
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Let's close that out and do that.
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All right, am I coming through better?
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It looks like the internet's going up a little bit.
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Yeah, you're crystal clear now. Okay.
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Yeah, look like there is some kind of internet connection
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issue. String yards has some problems
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sometimes. All right, so let's get past
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this big old Banner ad and interviews with former workers
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and recordings from internal down meetings people.
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Okay, we got the compound part holding his controversial, young
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Earth, creationists, who preaches that the Earth is less
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than 10,000 years old and the dinosaurs Road are Noah's Ark
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behind his literally last interpretation of The Bible is a
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more creative interpretation of the law, Hogan previously,
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served nine years in prison for tax avoidance, you know, I think
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that Al Capone went down for the same thing that me.
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Yeah, right. I thought I was.
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Yeah, that's the way they got Capone.
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They couldn't get him on anything else so they got him
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for tax evasion. But he got away with all the
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murders and everything. Yeah.
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Goodness, he protects his him. So he was pretty slick at what
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he did. He did everything out, really,
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really behind the scenes, nobody can catch him.
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Wow, while he was behind bars, feds seized and sold an early
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iteration of dowel that hovind operated in Pensacola Florida.
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The park featured a zipline, a fossil dig pit, a creationist
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Museum and a tricycle race track, Chris Jones probably
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wouldn't like that one. Rather than relaunch the
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Pensacola Park, after his release from prison.
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And 2015, holding open a new dowel and Alabama.
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But dowel woes now, go far beyond Hogan's tax troubles,
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which shuttered, the first Park hoof will continue to read some
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more, but I want to give you the opportunity to express your
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opinion if you have any well. Well the problems will be coming
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up further in the article but I've always wondered.
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Actually I've said to Ken, why do you Why do you protect this
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guy? Chris Jones and I've told other
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people, Either he don't live in reality as far as Chris Jones
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goes or in his heart of hearts can hoeven really believes.
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Chris Jones to be innocent, there were the only two
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possibilities and my mind. Anyway, Charles, can I ask you a
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personal question about myself at the guardian?
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You know, I'm a babe in Christ, I've never done anything like
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this in my life. The Madhu on my YouTube videos
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as I use colorful language every once in a while and even you
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told me that in the 1800's piss was fine whenever we were doing
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our interview yet. Kent and Matt never felt like
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endorsing or supporting or shown me any kind of love but they
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fought for two years or more for this.
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What is that? How does that make sense to you?
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It doesn't make sense at all. How how do you balance that you
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use? As you say, colorful Language?
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By the way, I want to interject something about your colorful
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language when I did the interview with you you use no
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colorful language at all. You said piss one time I said
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don't worry about it and 1800's and before that that's what it
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was referred to. Will you put a stigma on that
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and turned it into taking a pee? But anyway I don't know how you
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do this Balancing Act protecting Christians.
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Now, I got to speak up for a format pal.
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He was never on board, but that I'll say, is, I know that for a
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fact, but it has always stupefied me that Ken, Hoban
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would protect this guy and continue to say he was innocent
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and Even make a statement to which sticks in my mind though
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they were only playing strip poker.
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What it's a kids just playing stupid strip.
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Poker with a man, you know, that'd be like me.
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Hey kids, all you kids. I don't know 15 and under a I'm
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down my house in 15 minutes. We're going to play some strip
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poker. I'm 63 years old, come on.
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Anyway. It's a good point.
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It's a good point. Yeah.
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And any other shows I ever did with Ken Tobin, I never used any
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foul language, you know, it was asking me to be a civilized as
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possible and my goodness he even ended up putting up a couple of
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those things. So I don't understand it.
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Here we go. I wanted a man of God who I
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could trust. Oh yeah, I wanted to ask you.
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Why do you think that Matt Powell was and then aren't it?
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Wasn't he down there the whole time during this?
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Yo, Matt pal was totally against ever letting Chris Jones and on
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letting Christians to enter the property.
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You have to take my word on that, so why didn't why didn't
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can't listen to Matt pal? Maybe he finally did and I would
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say that final decision came In July of last year.
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Oof goodness gracious. Well, that's good morning
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everyone. No, I did that.
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And that is factual when I'm stating their god.
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Well, I trust you father jarls and trust you if that's the case
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and kudos to Matt pal for speaking out, against that good
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deal. All right, let's continue on
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with the DLC. I give credit where credit is
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due, mr. Charles, there's, here we go.
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Since Holden launched his latest incarnation of dowel in 2016, 2
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wives have left him. One citing Financial concerns
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with the park and the other because he assaulted her
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volunteers and staffers have also quit Dow over.
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A range of grievances among their concerns are repeated
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visits to dial by Hogan, sex offender friend, who will Julie
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molested a child at the park, the death by Drowning of a Child
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in a pond used for baptisms. Holden's assault of his new of
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his now, ex-wife allegations of theft of the ministry money by a
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Holden colleague, the arrest of the colleague for a drugged-out.
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Alleged carjacking, a late-night evidence removal operation by
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more than a dozen Church volunteers and the fatal
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shooting of a dog near doll. Damn.
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So Charles I noticed recently besides the interview you and I
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I did it. Cindy Lincoln aren't I.
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Haven't had an opportunity to talk to her anymore.
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Obviously, she has her concerns about me, which I understand how
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is she doing? By the way?
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She's doing great. As far as I hear, I haven't
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talked to her in a little while myself.
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If you looked at my channel that interview that's up there, that
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was done in June of 22. And I didn't realize it, but I
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had had it sitting at my site. It was marked private.
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So I thought I'd just put it out there so All right, fair enough,
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fair enough. Well hopefully she's doing all
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right. I guess if anybody's going to
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get a chance to talk to her and be you at some point in time,
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the property is gorgeous but it's the inside the inside of
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its what's dark Julie? Julie shank.
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Oh, I've talked to necklace before her husband and Julie was
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on the show couple times. Yeah, I was going to say Nick
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was on your show and yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Holden's for mercy. Secretary who lived and worked
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at Dow for three years. Told The Daily Beast.
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A lot of people don't know this to double comes as an angel of
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Light to. Oh man, she's got a way of
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putting things done. See.
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Yeah, she actually worded that very well.
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Let's see what we got me. Get a drink of water.
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An evangelist with a checkered history.
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They made sure they put that big red, many of Hope, many of
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holmen's flock live in cabins and campers on the 140-acre doll
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property in Alabama's. Rural Konica county is announce
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pronounced. I think it's a kind of
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accounting and accounting, I am sure glad you're here to fix my
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damn G. Oh goodness, I don't know what
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I'd do, the theme park features animals, playgrounds of Science
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Center at swimming and baptism Pond and statues of dinosaurs
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which hoping another creationists believe coexisted
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with humans mirror. Thousands of years ago, the
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devil I think is using the dinosaurs to teach boys and
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girls that the Earth is millions of years old.
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And its propaganda Holden told local news Outlet, it's not true
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at all. So he I haven't actually I don't
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think I've heard him actually say it like that.
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Does he believe that like Satan dropped the dinosaurs here to
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fullest all But you know, that's an excellent question.
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I know I think Can't just believes during the seven days
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of or the six days of creation that the dinosaurs were created
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along with human beings. and that finally, I believe, I don't
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want to quote him exactly because I'm not sure, but either
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they died out through natural causes according to can or man,
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hunted the dinosaurs to Extinction, so, Charles, I have
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a hard time fitting in with some of these Christian communities
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out there. People get onto me because I
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don't believe the World is Flat, and I'm also not a younger.
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I never have been and I always tell them to and I try to have a
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sense of humor, but I said, it's not serious shape.
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It's not flat. It's peaches shaped.
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And I don't ever get a laugh out of them.
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These people have no sense of humor whatsoever.
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No. And some pepperonis for the
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mountains. But anyway, There you go.
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Let's see what we got. Okay.
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So Satan Satan made the dinosaurs of trick us.
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Let's get past that some of dal's residence, and staffers
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began as the keishon goers marks.
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Tony. Oh wow, he's mentioned in the
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news article, he's gone Primetime now, some of those
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residents and staffers began as a vacation goers marks, Tony a
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former doll worker. First came to the compound for
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what he expected to be. Brief visit.
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I was only going to stay the afternoon, but somehow Hoban
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convince me, stay and put me to work on some projects which was
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kind of what I was interested in.
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Doing Stony told The Daily Beast, he did a lot of work down
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there, didn't ya marks Tony he did a lot of work down there and
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I believe he was also on the board down there.
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He was really involved in dedicated until Well, Kent
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screwed him so. and to get the full story, you'd have to talk
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to Mark's Tony but he he was committed and Ian Kent clashed.
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It might have been over Theology.
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And there were some other things like I say, I'm not going to
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speak for Marks Tony but They had definitely had a rift in
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their relationship and Mark knows time to go.
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So Well, from our baby out there, that doesn't know who
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marks Tony is, he does have YouTube channel, you can go over
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and he archives and he's very, very extensive and very specific
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and clear on his examination analysis of can Tobin and why he
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left. So, if anyone want the full
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story, check that out. I also shared a one of his
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videos that he did recently having to do with this specific
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article, to my Community page, people can check that.
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That out and learn everything you want to.
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And also, I'm probably going to end up having Nicholas and Julie
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aren't in the future again and love to have you Father, Charles
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you guys seem to get along. All right, here we go.
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He finally left after three days and returned to his parents
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house, where he expressed his desire to live and work at Dow
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for a month with his young daughter, his parents objected,
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but after 15 month, custody battle stoning is daughter.
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Moved to Dallas. We can he got her back.
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Holden's checkered. History.
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Was a matter of public record. Wait a minute.
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Say just. Okay, so he went through a
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custody battle and then he goes down there and then Kent, the
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Wilds of pedophile on the land, that could have affected.
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His custody could move it with his kid.
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Yes. It could have been die.
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I don't wanna mess up the story. I think when, and Mark, if
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you're listening, I hope I'm saying this right one.
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As soon as marks Tony heard that Chris Jim Jones was a pedophile.
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He hightailed it out of there. Crying did not want his daughter
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around. I wasn't one.
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My I have two daughters. I wouldn't want my daughter.
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Well, of course, they're grown now.
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But when they were young, I'd make sure they weren't around
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any pedophiles as well. So, right.
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Well, I'm just saying that I could see that as a motivation,
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a major motivation for him want to leave after going through all
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that cord aggravation and then doing that, I think he attempted
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to talk to me about that a while back, but we had some Woman
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named Deborah. It was also in the room that was
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extremely long-winded and what let anybody talk?
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But I think I heard something about that, that the nature.
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All right, let's continue on, okay?
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Hoping checkered history, was a matter of public record, a
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well-known tax protester, who once boasted of not filing a tax
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return in 30 years open has had repeated run-ins with the law,
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the incidence range from his refusal to secure permits for
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his original floor. Abase towel to a 2006 conviction
33:46
on 58, charges related to tax evasion.
33:50
Damn, and up, it was that much and everybody.
33:55
Go ahead. Now, I was just going to say
33:57
they made sure they didn't miss a diet or tittle there. 58 yards
34:04
heat. Damn his.
34:07
Then wife Jo also spent the year in prison for the scheme.
34:11
They later divorced. Joe is the only wife.
34:14
I haven't had the opportunity to have a conversation with talk to
34:19
Mary talk to Cindy and I talk to Sandra and I already told you in
34:22
my interview that Sandra she comes off like a real sweetheart
34:27
but she might have he is he might be if things go bad for
34:31
her in a few years and I expect you'll probably be just as angry
34:35
and pissed off as, you know, the other former wives hopefully
34:39
that doesn't go down like that. I'm just saying I'm like tired.
34:44
Glad I hear Joe was a real sweetheart as well.
34:47
That's, that's only what I've heard.
34:50
I've never met her as you. I've never had a personal
34:53
meeting with her, but every think I have heard about her
34:57
from various people that she was a sweetheart, a great woman.
35:03
Compassion and all those nor yeah a great woman that's all
35:09
I've only heard good things about Joe.
35:14
As far as Mary you know we were just talking about the taxes.
35:18
I remember when I was talking to Mary on my Live program she said
35:22
that was one of the things that she was concerned about.
35:25
That Holden was going right back into Financial ruin and problems
35:30
and all this. And that he didn't seem to
35:32
listen. The her and she tried to stop it
35:35
from happening. And he just said, I mean, if
35:38
you're if you're married and then the relationship with
35:41
somebody, you have to trust your partner, you become one, you
35:45
know, like Souls, entwined, you have to trust the person right?
35:49
You know, like yeah, I know I've had Mary Tocco is what I what
35:55
I've seen. Well I've seen her on your show
35:58
and wherever else I saw her on the Yet again, I've had no
36:04
personal contact with her. But what you said is true, she
36:09
was concerned that things were going south as far as how they
36:16
were organizing finances and everything and she wanted out.
36:20
So that's it. In a nutshell, honey, way.
36:24
One of the things that she said to me, one of the reasons why
36:27
she got got away from Kent this because Joe herself.
36:31
The first wife, according to Mary, Could have went the
36:34
present as well and Mary did not want that in their life.
36:37
She wanted to go out and preach and talk to people and right.
36:41
Oh look you know the kind of stuff she was into she was in a
36:44
terrible position. So I think she did the best she
36:48
could to survive. Yeah.
36:50
I agree. All right.
36:53
I'm like dr. Holden.
36:55
You're supposed to be sitting with the father, having sympathy
36:58
for him and praying with him not past, not your dinosaur cards
37:02
up. People can come.
37:04
That's just psycho to me. He other more violent
37:08
allegations followed him. Oh, and by the way, I'd be got
37:11
to point this out, I played a recording on my show of Mary
37:14
Telco yesterday where she said that she actually witnessed
37:18
that, she was in the same room and witnessed Kent hovind,
37:21
basically assault. A child body-slamming, the child
37:25
over hitting Ken, Tobin with a rubber band.
37:29
I don't know if you heard that recording, it's on the radio, if
37:32
you want to hear it. Now that you mention it at first
37:36
I had to think but I've never seen it, nor heard it, but I've
37:42
heard of it, if that makes sense.
37:45
Okay? Well, I know that you you tend
37:47
to do review videos and you're obviously very neutral and
37:51
always try to keep it as straight as possible, but the
37:54
recording is on my radio station.
37:56
If you want to grab it and you know, talk about it if you like
38:00
and one of your future videos folks make sure You subscribe to
38:04
Father, Charles he's good people.
38:06
It's one of the few Christians on the internet that I have any
38:09
trust for, and I mean that mr. Charles well, thank you.
38:12
Brett, here we go. Okay.
38:16
Other more violent allegations followed him in 2002, he was
38:20
arrested for alleged assault battery, and burglary aren't
38:24
tenants and a house. He owned the case was later
38:27
dropped after an alleged victim decided not to pursue the
38:30
charges, the situation was Physically spiritually
38:34
emotionally and financially draining, she wrote online at
38:37
the time and an interview with The Daily Beast.
38:40
Hoban denied, the allegations accusing his accuser of
38:43
attempted extortion but Holman remained popular in some
38:48
Christian circles where where he's better known for the
38:53
Decades of creationist children's material.
38:56
He published under his doctor, Dino brand, my five kids were
39:00
raised with his videos and I thought he was amazing.
39:03
Amazing Holden, second wife, Mary tokoroten an open letter to
39:07
hold his fourth wife and 2021, I wanted a man of God who I can
39:12
trust and she said that to me repeatedly.
39:15
Right conversations Tocco left hoeven in 2017 in a Facebook
39:23
post, explaining the split Taco described her increasingly
39:27
frustrated efforts to ensure husband dolls.
39:30
Finances were above board. There we go.
39:33
It's that is the main thing that she told me was the issue that
39:37
he just wouldn't listen to her in the financial.
39:40
She also said that he was hiring a bunch of dumb baboons up there
39:44
that were untrustworthy and unreliable and all that, right?
39:49
So yeah. Okay.
39:51
I heard the same things. Let's see what we got.
39:55
It wasn't long before I began noticing certain things that
39:59
didn't seem to add up my list of concerns started slowly.
40:03
Ali and then began to grow. She wrote, she claimed that when
40:06
she brought her concerns to the doll board, she was rebuffed
40:10
reached for comment. So, go directed, The Daily Beast
40:14
who are Facebook statements. Well, maybe I'll contact later
40:20
and I'll give links to all the old shows and everything like
40:23
that. So The Daily Beast in the
40:25
newspapers have even more information when I actually hear
40:28
the people in audio. Let's see what we got.
40:34
Boy. Okay, hoping denied the dowels
40:37
bookkeeping was out of order and accused Tokyo trying to take
40:41
over dowels board but we've heard that before anybody had
40:44
the credit size is trying to take his ministry from him,
40:49
right? That's right.
40:52
That's he loved what so Pat well I was just going to say again
40:58
I'm paraphrasing. Mary Tocco butt.
41:05
Basically can put her in her place so she says the she's a
41:11
woman, he'll do it his way and she should stay out of it move.
41:17
And that's again, I'm just paraphrasing them, they're not
41:21
her exact words. But seems to be a pattern.
41:26
Every time someone criticizes, the net means, you're just
41:29
trying to take over the ministry or they've been sent by the
41:32
devil. Right?
41:33
All right. Okay, okay so we got it figured
41:37
out there hoping tonight about book, we know who to blame Mac
41:44
open tonight that dolls bookkeeping was out of order and
41:48
accused Tokyo trying to take over.
41:50
There's nothing wrong here. He said we have CPAs Do all our
41:55
stuff every year, our trustees keep track of all that stuff.
41:59
There's never been an illegal dealing.
42:01
You know. There was a guy that came on the
42:04
show a while back that can't claim that he was real close
42:07
with them. All that.
42:09
And Steven Bolin actually told me that that same guy who came
42:13
on my show, who was a really, really cool son-of-a-gun.
42:15
We really liked him, he was nice.
42:18
But it turned out, I forget what his name was, but he was a big
42:22
boy with glasses. Do you remember Shade.
42:27
Well, people can see it on my Odyssey pay.
42:30
So apparently what happened was, is a bunch of prostitutes are
42:33
hookers came, the dinosaur Adventure Land.
42:36
This is according to Stephen and they they were looking for that
42:41
guy because apparently he'd been leaving dinosaur Adventure Land
42:44
when he supposed to be working on stuff and basically have
42:48
enough sex with them so they fired.
42:52
Yeah, was this Steve Len? No, not Steve.
42:57
Okay, story about pornography on a computer or something, right?
43:02
He was definitely a pervert himself, but the other the other
43:06
guy was like, damn. What was his name?
43:10
Was a John or Paul, or something?
43:12
Like, he had some kind of biblical name, sad to say
43:15
Charles, but I'll have to get the video off of Odyssey.
43:19
All my stuff's archived. Let's see what we got here.
43:22
Okay, we have CPE is a do all our stuff every year or trust
43:27
since keep track of all the stuff.
43:28
Gowdy Idea, Idea Idea, Cindy, Lincoln Hoban stirred wife.
43:32
Also said she was initially Charmed by the charismatic
43:34
preacher, she first encountered Holden, you know, that's that's
43:39
another thing to Charles. I got to say before we continue
43:42
on this, but a lot of these critics they get on to me, they
43:47
say Brad. How can you be fooled?
43:49
I only know I've been talking to the guy off and on On the phone
43:53
and they are right front of him and he was able to calm them and
43:56
play them out. But I'm supposed to be a person
43:59
who doesn't know any of them, just be able to figure it out
44:02
like it's a Psychic Network or something over here.
44:09
Sorry that struck me, it's like Network.
44:13
Now I hear where you're coming from.
44:16
You've never had any personal contact with Ken or Sandra have
44:22
you only on the phone only in the fine.
44:25
Okay. Yeah and when already on my goes
44:28
yeah and shows and that's it and you know that whenever people
44:32
are in video, they could be they could act like the pope or
44:36
something that they wanted to. You don't know what's Going on
44:38
back there, you know, it's true. That's true.
44:42
All right, let's see. Cindy Lincoln's sending Lincoln
44:47
Hoban started wife. Also said she was initially
44:49
Charmed. She's first encountered holding
44:52
through his video series, while she was teaching preschoolers at
44:56
their finished shooting the series and 2016.
44:59
She learned Holden was looking for workers at his new doll.
45:02
She packed her bags and moved from California to Alabama,
45:06
where the theme park was still under construction.
45:08
She has been very, very clear on my shows about all that.
45:12
She told the whole story about that, right?
45:14
As I started out in a tent and ended up Miss hoeven.
45:18
Lincoln told The Daily Beast, she married Joven, July, 2018,
45:24
by early 2020. I was experiencing huge red
45:27
flags Shunk. Oh wow the shanks you mentioned
45:31
again we greeted them on a rival noted that they did not appear
45:35
to be related. Jones was white 11.
45:38
Year old traveling with him was black.
45:41
Wow! Okay.
45:43
Now operated for years and a half, open State, receiving
45:46
visitors and volunteers before formally launching in 2018.
45:51
The park is not have liability insurance.
45:55
Oh boy. No, they didn't fare but I know
45:57
for a fact they have if someone fell on a rusty nail and got
46:05
tetanus, there's There's no liability insurance.
46:11
They don't carry any. Anyway, well that doesn't make
46:15
sense. Is a lot of people up there
46:17
working and all that and construction people get hurt all
46:20
the time. When I was right?
46:23
You're leaving yourself wide open for eight below to
46:27
problems. That's also yes.
46:30
Wow, that's rough open. Confirmed to The Daily Beast,
46:35
describing the parks policy as enter, at your own risk.
46:38
And within two years of opening, the park would be the scene of
46:42
the tragedy. Yeah, goodness, that's so sad.
46:48
It is in March, 2020 of visiting families.
46:53
Five young children were swimming in dolls Pond.
46:56
Which Double Bulls has the theme parks baptism?
47:00
Pull man. So that's where they baptize
47:04
people. And that's where a kid actually
47:06
died. Its main like there?
47:09
Yeah, yeah. I've been there quite so.
47:13
Wow, that's just rough. Father, let's see what we got
47:18
Stoney. Who was also at the pond with
47:20
this daughter recalled commotion.
47:22
When one boy appeared to be struggling in the water, adults
47:26
rushed into the pond and pulled the child to shore.
47:29
But in the tongue Up tall mope, another boy, seven years old,
47:33
went missing the boy's father and ran back into the lake and
47:36
tripped over his voice. Tony recalled.
47:40
The child was pronounced him dead at the hospital where doll
47:43
workers claim holding demonstrated something less than
47:46
a bedside manner. Can Tobin is walking around the
47:49
hospital passing out Ministry card saying, come to Dinosaur
47:53
Adventure Land will give you tours.
47:56
We are free, everything's free come.
47:58
See us recall. Old Shunk Hogan's and secretary
48:02
so he's up at the hospital, handing out pamphlets while
48:06
there's a child. That's dead, right?
48:09
This is this is what I've heard to from Julie and Nick and other
48:15
people. It's like Ken showed, no empathy
48:23
at all and there was just no empathy there.
48:29
If that were my proper die. didn't go through it, so I just
48:40
I guess what I'm trying to say Brad.
48:41
I can only imagine how horrified I'd be that someone drowned on
48:48
my property. That's all.
48:53
All the more and more I hear about I wouldn't be passing out
48:59
postcards. Let's put it that way.
49:01
Right now, I wouldn't be passing out postcards come visit us here
49:05
at free dinosaur Adventure Land. So Wonder someone didn't feuding
49:11
anyway go on Charles. I'm going to say the more and
49:15
more. I read this stuff because
49:16
sometimes it's hard to hard to understand where Stony, as well
49:21
as Shanker coming from because they get so passionate, whenever
49:25
they're explaining it. The words get kind of jumbled,
49:28
and it's hard to understand. But now that I'm reading it and
49:31
I'm actually visualizing this, I can see that they all got
49:35
traumatized. Sure, imagine being there.
49:38
On that Shore and and seeing all that and just called
49:42
overdramatized and they oh they were also able to show empathy
49:47
towards this boy's father and just the whole situation.
49:54
No, they weren't handing out postcards no.
49:59
An all right, let's continue on. While this is rough, man.
50:08
And I'm like, dr. Holden, you're supposed to be
50:12
sitting with the father, having sympathy for him and praying
50:14
with him not passed out your dinosaur card.
50:17
So people can come. That's a psycho to me, I don't
50:21
know what else to call it. I do vaguely remember that Hogan
50:25
said when presented with Shanks account and yes I probably did
50:29
that. My business card has a Plan of
50:31
Salvation. They're actually gospel tract,
50:34
so I do that everywhere I go, I'm trying to get people saved.
50:38
I'm an evangelist, anyone claiming to be act, anyone
50:44
claiming he acted inappropriately.
50:46
Must have some other kind of Acts she's grinding.
50:49
That'd be my guest Holden said, adding that the boy's father
50:54
holds no grudge whatsoever. The dad loves her Ministry.
50:57
Matter of fact, he paid to have the Gazebo built the end of our
51:01
Dock and honor of a son as soon as I walk on that gold either
51:06
glad it's a nice gazebo the father had built for and honor
51:13
of his son. Dennis, I should have called the
51:19
police as the next thing in the red letters.
51:22
Meanwhile, holding stirred wife, Cindy Lincoln was experiencing
51:25
and Grave concerns about a new husband among other things.
51:29
Lincoln and holding are currently locked in a dispute
51:31
over whether she loaned owl, the proceeds from the house, she
51:35
sold them. California.
51:37
Lincoln showed The Daily Beast to contract stipulating that she
51:40
would receive one thousand three hundred dollars a month for 20
51:44
years opened. Maya I said Del entered into a
51:48
contract. Wait a minute, he said on the
51:51
show that he, that they did paperwork and all that kind of
51:54
stuff. What's, what is this?
51:56
I don't get it. I've heard the same thing.
52:00
However, Cindy as far as again, I'm guessing here from
52:07
conversations, I've had with Cindy, she didn't have a lawyer
52:10
present, she put her total trust, and kind of thing.
52:16
He's the top guy on the board there.
52:17
Do you remember his name? Ken always refers to him Paul
52:23
handsome, man, I've him. And anyway, he tricked, she
52:29
trusted these people and they wrote up a contract that
52:35
couldn't be honored and it was basically a bogus contract, the
52:41
put it simply, and this is what she's you know, she has to
52:48
battle this guy and From what I again, this is what I hear, can
52:57
those are something like a hundred and forty thousand
53:00
dollars. I am got a recording of Steve
53:06
bowling on my phone where he said that Cindy and Kent and all
53:09
these folks were supposed to work.
53:12
Something out that if she removed her YouTube channel,
53:16
they'd start paying her again. Is that like a form of like
53:20
blackmail or something or extortion to say.
53:23
So if you remove your YouTube channel, then we may start
53:26
paying you again. Mmm.
53:29
Well, it's definitely quick pro quo, but I know nothing about
53:36
this. And yes, I have a relationship
53:39
with Steven, but this is the first I'm hearing about this.
53:44
I played it on my show yesterday, but unfortunately,
53:48
some non-believer came in at the three hour, mark and remember
53:52
porn bombed me. You'll hear all the audio and
53:56
everything like that over there. And sooner or later, I'll blur
54:00
that part out and they reopened it you too, but but yeah, you'll
54:04
get to hear Stephen bowling on the phone and everything else
54:07
aren't there. Okay, so here we go.
54:11
I suppose, I guess they didn't ever work out anything with
54:14
Cindy them because I haven't heard nothing and the YouTube
54:18
channel is obviously still up, right?
54:20
Right. Okay, let's see what we got.
54:25
I discovered there was a cover-up going on and they tried
54:28
to silence me. She said they had me shot and
54:31
then ultimately. Basically, he just kept doing
54:33
strange and mean things to me until basically I fled the
54:37
cover-up. She said involved the
54:39
long-simmering allegations of drug use and pedophilia it.
54:42
Now, the latter involving a good friend of Hogans named, Chris
54:46
Jones, court records, show a pattern of allegations made
54:50
against Jones. Bye, boys.
54:52
While working at the two young boys from his church in 2001,
54:56
one of the boys got mud on his clothing.
54:59
I was seven year old was naked. Jones put him over his lap and
55:03
hit him on the buttocks. A court found in 2004 Jones
55:07
befriended, the other boys aged nine eleven, and twelve
55:11
defendant Jones told them. Before they watched a movie,
55:14
they had to play strip poker, a court, this area defendant
55:19
produced a deck of cards and explain the game.
55:21
Came to the boys. He dealt the cards told the boys
55:24
who won or lost each hand and directed, The Losers to take off
55:29
some clothes, the boys did as instructed.
55:32
Alex him, remembered he and Anthony M strip down to their
55:36
underwear. Anthony, I'm remembered.
55:38
Only himself getting naked EG. Remember the other two, boys
55:42
stripped naked and took off their own shirts during the
55:45
game. EG notice the defendants dick
55:48
was getting larger and you could see it through his pants.
55:54
I can't even comprehend something like this, it really
55:58
is hard. And I can feel even though I've
56:01
heard this story several times Brad, I feel my blood pressure
56:09
going up again. Every time I hear this story, I
56:12
just cannot comprehend how a, grown man can interact with
56:17
basically children in this way. It's, it's beyond my
56:21
comprehension. Comprehension.
56:23
But anyway I didn't mean to interrupt.
56:26
Well according to Kent hovind are my show.
56:28
He knew that this guy was charged several times and the
56:32
first couple times, it came on my show.
56:34
He lied and said, oh, Kris only stayed the night, but after
56:38
talking doll workers, he told me a week and then I confronted
56:42
Kent about it again and he goes, yeah, there was a week, but
56:44
nothing happened. He never did anything wrong.
56:46
The police were out to get him and all this.
56:49
The world is just half touring kind of thing bull.
56:52
Shut. But I'll tell you talking about
56:54
these guys. Are you talking about Zaire?
56:57
I'm talking about Chris. Jones is actually got quite a
57:01
bit of charge as if you check out TT.
57:03
How do you know? Oh, I know he does.
57:05
Yeah, so there is no way and what I'm saying is that Kent
57:10
came on. If you look at the older shows,
57:13
the first couple that he attended where he was questioned
57:15
about this, he said that Chris Jones only stayed a night and
57:20
then marks Tony And other people said, no, no, no, the guys
57:24
stayed for almost a week. That's right.
57:28
If I may say, I know you're talking about Zaire now marks
57:32
Tony stayed right on top of this.
57:37
Actually marks, Tony played a big part in locating Zaire
57:43
because now he's sort of disappeared from the face of the
57:46
earth. I think Adam lore had.
57:49
Some also was working on This anyway, we know that zaire's.
57:55
Okay. Now as far as with the family's
57:58
going to do, I haven't heard if they're going to press charges
58:04
or its value. I don't know.
58:06
So I can't comment on that part of it, but marks Tony is
58:12
absolutely. Right.
58:13
He stayed longer than one night. Yes.
58:19
So Kent Kent is actually recorded on my show for lying
58:24
and saying it was only a night, is there any way that Kent could
58:27
have possibly forgot the difference between a day in a
58:30
week? I'm not a doctor.
58:33
I understand he's had some strokes and I'm not by no means
58:37
making any kind of fun. It died, but I'm not a doctor.
58:43
So I don't know if a stroke can affect short-term memory like
58:48
that and the type of Strokes. He's had they're called they're
58:59
definitely called events their shirt.
59:02
It's it's like they last like five to eight seconds, you know
59:06
what I mean? It's not a full blown stroke,
59:09
right? But I'm going around the barn
59:11
here, whether it affects memory was whether the kid was there a
59:16
night or a week, I'm not a doctor so I'm not going to
59:21
comment on that. However, I put a lot of credence
59:26
in marks Tony's investigation because he was on top of this.
59:32
Every day and if marks Tony says he was there longer than a
59:37
night, whatever he says the total time was I I would be on
59:44
marks Tony's team there. Yes.
59:47
Well, he's not the only one. There's other doll workers that
59:49
contacted me, not every doll worker, not every doll worker
59:54
wanted to go live on public and all that we write.
59:58
I know there were other people bread and you're right, I didn't
1:00:02
Know who the other people were. That's why I didn't comment.
1:00:06
Yeah, I tell you Father, Charles it was a mass every time I look
1:00:11
on my Google Voice, man. More people and more people.
1:00:14
I was like, Wow. Wow.
1:00:16
See I bet you I put you under a lot of pressure, a lot a lot.
1:00:22
Sure. So people are wondering, you
1:00:25
know, people say how can you you know listen to Kent and then
1:00:30
listen to this and they just don't realize Is I was hearing
1:00:33
stories from everywhere Charles and I'm trying to figure it out
1:00:36
from here and my lowly state of misery and I mean, all right, so
1:00:45
I guess we'll read some more. If you see Chris and bed with a
1:00:48
kid 1 Del residents, ask Ministry Elder in the recording.
1:00:52
Oh, and by the way, on that same video that I told you, that is
1:00:55
on my radio. God, TV radio Paul Hanson
1:00:59
actually called and he was irritated.
1:01:02
Not with me but he said man I told him not to have this guy
1:01:06
down here and that this would be really really awful and bad but
1:01:10
they did an interview once again forgive me brat but I just
1:01:14
didn't you doing an interview with Hanson when he said this
1:01:17
stuff or am I remembering this and correctly with Paul Hanson?
1:01:22
I believe I did like a recording call but when it was that's what
1:01:27
it was and he do your right now. I'm remembering and he was
1:01:31
upset. Go on.
1:01:33
I'm sorry. I again, I apologize not
1:01:35
everybody that contacted me had resources like, computers and
1:01:39
all that but they were able to buy and own and and whatever the
1:01:43
deal was a nap. So I see I'm a person not are
1:01:48
called unvaccinated. He's upset with us.
1:01:50
Sharing a news that's going on. Well, unfortunately, folks, to
1:01:54
stops blowing up and it is going to probably end up making making
1:01:59
it to the TV and everything else newspaper.
1:02:02
Ours are picking it up, so it just bothers you you, if this
1:02:06
causes you some kind of stress vaccinate, it's going to get
1:02:09
really, really wide and promise you that.
1:02:13
Okay? So Jones was convicted of three
1:02:16
charges of lewd, acts and children for the strip poker
1:02:19
game and an act of battery for the nude.
1:02:21
Spanking, Jones was acquitted on the other charges including two
1:02:25
more counts of lewd Behavior toward children.
1:02:27
In the case of two, other boys and showing porn to a minor.
1:02:32
Any early version of criminal, complaint also included a count
1:02:35
of possessing child pornography, although, that count was dropped
1:02:39
and the amendment complaint, but he still got eight other charges
1:02:43
out there Charles. So I said, this isn't the only
1:02:47
thing. That's one thing.
1:02:49
A lot of people seem to want to be quiet about Jones.
1:02:52
Did not respond to repeated requests for comment.
1:02:56
Yeah, he had said over and over, he was going to come on God TV
1:02:59
radio and talk about all this stuff and the Issues.
1:03:02
But he just kept on putting it off and putting it off and
1:03:06
everything like that. Until finally can tell.
1:03:08
Them said, I'll just have him come down here and we'll sit
1:03:11
together in front of a camera and talk.
1:03:14
Of course, that never happened. Another y from both of them.
1:03:18
Well, Brad, if you be holding your breath right now, you'd be
1:03:21
dead anyway, go on. That's right, yeah, right.
1:03:26
When Billy Summers visit, the doll has a guest in 2017.
1:03:29
He learned of Hogans close friendship with Owns and
1:03:33
dimensionally led them Aiken South Carolina Holden replied
1:03:37
that he knew a man from the area who sometimes does the doll
1:03:41
unprompted summer, said Holden began explaining that Jones was
1:03:45
a convicted child sex offender, but that the charges were
1:03:49
trumped up and Jones had merely been playing strip poker with
1:03:52
children. Okay, I don't know how holding
1:03:57
thought that was going to help in any kind of way, but sure
1:04:00
over and said something like, but he Jones stopped at his,
1:04:04
their underwear so they did nothing wrong Summers.
1:04:07
Recalled wide. Oh no, that isn't what they did
1:04:11
was totally normal for, I don't, you agree.
1:04:15
Anyway, around here in Missouri. If somebody gets caught, doing
1:04:20
something like that, they get taken behind the Woodshed.
1:04:23
If you know what I mean? I know what you mean.
1:04:26
Let's see after returning home from dowel Summers.
1:04:30
Remain perturbed about how Open self-proclaimed friendship with
1:04:34
Jones. He called hoeven with his
1:04:36
concerns of recording of the call reviewed by The Daily Beast
1:04:40
shows holding painting Jones As A persecuted victim of the New
1:04:43
World Order. Jones got a job at Bohemian.
1:04:47
Grove, I remember hearing about all that with what's his name
1:04:50
Alex Jones, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, hmm.
1:04:57
That's where they make all their.
1:04:58
That's the guy talks about gay frogs and such that's where they
1:05:02
hang Alex Jones. Yeah, that's where they make all
1:05:09
their plans for the New World Order old and says on the
1:05:12
recording, he got a job there in the video, taped a bunch of
1:05:15
stuff and they wanted him in prison.
1:05:19
The subject of Fascination for early 2000s, conspiracy
1:05:23
theorist. Bohemian Grove is the site of a
1:05:26
eat up for the rich and Powerful there.
1:05:29
In 2021 Dow meeting a recording of which was reviewed by The
1:05:33
Daily Beast. Jones, claimed to have provided
1:05:36
footage of the Grove to infowar. Profounder Alex Jones areas who
1:05:41
I knew had brought in sooner or later who eats us used it in a
1:05:46
documentary, Alex Jones assistant declined to State
1:05:49
whether the Infowars boss use, Chris Jones footage because we
1:05:53
don't talk to them Tardes, okay? Summers was not convicted by
1:06:00
Holden's explanation and made a YouTube video about his concerns
1:06:04
holding soon called him and demanded.
1:06:06
The videos removal voicemail reveal Jones also called
1:06:12
Summers. Blaming his arrest in the New
1:06:14
World Order and downplaying his conviction.
1:06:18
My actual crime. You want to know what the
1:06:20
technical crime? Was Jones asked him to voicemail
1:06:23
reviewed by The Daily Beast. It was throwing 11.
1:06:26
Old boy in the pool, in his underwear.
1:06:28
That's my big sex crime. Jones went on the note that even
1:06:35
if I'm guilty, hopefully, the blood of Christ works, at least
1:06:38
you're not questioning that the blood of Christ works, man.
1:06:42
You're all forgiven and cleaned up a little boy.
1:06:45
So he's basically using religion as a weapon to try to get his
1:06:50
way out of this, right? Sure.
1:06:53
Sure. I wonder if he was a guest at a
1:06:57
Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein's, I'll until weena's,
1:07:01
oh goodness gracious. How that would be the place to
1:07:05
do some new world stuff. Right.
1:07:07
Yeah. He probably mingled with people
1:07:10
like Bill Clinton and the rest of them.
1:07:12
Anyway, that's rough. All righty, president summers
1:07:20
video contributed to a creeping awareness of Jones passed by
1:07:24
November. Only 19, when Jones made one of
1:07:28
his occasional visits to dial residents, were uneasy chunks
1:07:33
are only were yep, Shawn colvin's in Secretary recalled,
1:07:38
Hoban coming into her office and explaining that Jones was
1:07:42
innocent. But the people were freaking
1:07:44
out, I go outside. And yeah, people kids are, there
1:07:49
are taking their kids off of the property.
1:07:51
Shanks had people are super mad one.
1:07:54
Father told him, His wife to grab, all their kids, put them
1:07:57
in their cabin marks. Tony grabbed his child went off
1:08:00
campus. So did many other parents there
1:08:03
with their children? They left?
1:08:05
Yeah, and I said that earlier about Mark, I knew Mark told me
1:08:09
that when he found out the world traveler was there.
1:08:15
He got it. He got his daughter out of there
1:08:18
and I can only applaud him and all the other parents that got
1:08:25
their kids out of Dodge are anyway.
1:08:28
Go on please goodness gracious. I need a drink of water.
1:08:31
Hmm. He's got a right to wrestle with
1:08:38
the kid if he wants, and you've got a right to say I'm not
1:08:41
getting around. Chris asked about Jones, holding
1:08:45
told The Daily Beast that Jones had done nothing wrong either in
1:08:49
his criminal case or a doll he's come to visit here twice.
1:08:54
I think never spends the night Oldham said well that's a damn
1:08:57
lie right there. That's a damn lie.
1:09:00
I've ever seen one according to many witnesses.
1:09:04
Absolutely. But Jones did spend the night in
1:09:08
your doll during the November. 2019 visit.
1:09:12
Oh, that's right. Open recalled.
1:09:14
When reminded of the in incident, they did spend one
1:09:17
night here. So he told them that it was only
1:09:20
one night as well. Like he did me, but it turned
1:09:22
out that actually be a week. You see, when I say that the
1:09:26
guy's a liar people are like, we, we me why'd, you know, you
1:09:31
should forgive him, you know, that's what Jesus would do and
1:09:34
all this, are you You kidding me?
1:09:37
Yes. Cause one little one to stumble
1:09:39
your to be tied around with a noose and thrown into the ocean
1:09:43
to be forgotten. I know I'm a millstone tied
1:09:46
around your neck and you turn into the ocean.
1:09:49
Yeah, hmm. Oh goodness.
1:09:55
All right, so let's I was going to keep quiet about this but I
1:09:59
even canceled. Can my last trip down there and
1:10:05
some other time we can get into why I'm a trips down there.
1:10:08
I've made 21 in 2021 in August of 2021 and I made a trip down
1:10:16
in July of 2022. And I had a, I'm not, I'm a
1:10:25
priest. I can't say what?
1:10:28
Me and Kent discussed totally. I'm Bound by a seal.
1:10:33
If you know what I mean, and I can't reveal what we talked
1:10:39
about nothing Dreadful, but it's still.
1:10:43
I have to keep his business. But I can say this, I advised
1:10:50
him strongly stop defending this Christians on the air, you're
1:10:56
destroying your dinosaur Adventure, Land.
1:11:01
Don't let him on your property. If you believe in your heart,
1:11:06
he's innocent. Well pray for him that he'll be
1:11:10
exonerated one day, but you've got to stop defending this
1:11:15
convicted child molester. And I said more things, but
1:11:20
that's it in a nutshell and that would be in July of 2022.
1:11:28
Well, Charles sound like you did the best.
1:11:30
You could to help the guy out and he tried to give him sound
1:11:33
advice and I know I threw out some words of wisdom.
1:11:36
Myself out there, it just seems like common sense for us, right?
1:11:40
Charles right. All right, let's continue on.
1:11:45
This is quite a in-depth article here.
1:11:49
They were Jones and young boys named The Daily Beast is
1:11:53
withholding Shunk who greeted them on the arrival noted that
1:11:56
they did not appear to be related.
1:11:59
Jones was white, the eleven-year-old traveling with
1:12:01
him was black. Uneasy chunk went to make two
1:12:06
beds for the visitors and the dorm style.
1:12:08
Guest room, Joven intervene she said, no, No no no she
1:12:14
remembers, hope insane, they're going to go stay in the house
1:12:18
next door. So she tried to get them set up
1:12:22
in a room with two beds and hoping it was the one who
1:12:25
actually said no, no, no, yeah. Now again, this is only
1:12:30
information that I heard about. I obviously wasn't there but I
1:12:35
hear the any bedding in that house was a, I don't know if it
1:12:41
was a full size it doesn't matter, full size or queen size
1:12:45
mattress, no frame, or anything, just the mattress.
1:12:49
And the middle of a floor in one of the bedrooms and that's where
1:12:53
they slept again, this was the information related to me.
1:12:59
So the secretary tried to get them set up in a room where
1:13:03
there's two comfortable beds with Blanco or a tea, and he
1:13:08
wanted them to lay on a mattress on the floor, where it would
1:13:12
force the kid to be in the same bed with him.
1:13:15
Exactly. Holding holding holding Hogan
1:13:22
asked whether he overruled, Shawn Colvin told The Daily
1:13:26
Beast. That I don't recall that at all.
1:13:29
We have a 25. Some cabin spaces here.
1:13:32
I got to go from my Bible study now, oh I'm surprised he didn't
1:13:36
say it or when he returned from the group Bible study holding
1:13:40
said Jones and stayed off campus open handed the phone to another
1:13:44
dowel resident. He said Jones and the boy had
1:13:47
stayed in Amir by house that was being managed by Adele Elder?
1:13:53
That sounds like somebody knew that something bad could
1:13:56
possibly happen, most covering their ass.
1:13:58
Well I wasn't wasn't Paul Hanson in the house with them there.
1:14:03
Now I don't want to put out names.
1:14:05
If I'm wrong. Some know, you're absolutely
1:14:09
right. I actually was recorded was Paul
1:14:12
Hanson that was in the house with them because he got on with
1:14:15
that RV. Okay, was an RV 10 feet away,
1:14:20
according to his recording that I got on my radio, he was Tara
1:14:24
feet away in an RV and he was the one that actually walked in
1:14:28
and caught them on the bed and Chris claimed that he was this
1:14:32
wrestling. The kid.
1:14:34
Right, there you go. People can hear the recordings
1:14:39
all on my radio station. Wow.
1:14:44
All right, so the house was just off towel property and has been
1:14:51
owned by a series of Dallas Associates junk, and her husband
1:14:54
had briefly stayed there and we're nearly finished moving
1:14:57
out. The only thing left in the
1:14:59
building was a queen size mattress.
1:15:02
She said hold it wanted Jones on the boy to share the bed.
1:15:05
Wait a second, let me let me capsulize that.
1:15:11
She said hoeven wanted Jones and the boy to share the bed.
1:15:15
You see that? Yeah.
1:15:17
Said and wonderful. All right, just wanted to make
1:15:22
sure people out there, see what the journalist has written here.
1:15:27
Well, you can say that, I said, ignorant, God, I've said dr.
1:15:32
Holden, they can't do that. It's inappropriate shank said,
1:15:36
and he's like, it's fine. I'm the boss.
1:15:39
I'm in charge, don't worry about a thing.
1:15:42
I got everything. Handled, you just go home and be
1:15:45
with your husband. I'll see you tomorrow. tomorrow
1:15:48
I said fine and I left and so to this day, I'm going to be honest
1:15:53
with you, I should have called the police I should have called
1:16:00
the place mmm-hmm. Father.
1:16:09
Charles Keene, do me a favor. The first starting to like
1:16:12
stress me out. Can you talk for a little bit?
1:16:15
I need to get a bit of air. I'm going to vomit.
1:16:19
Yeah. I guess that was Jolie saying,
1:16:27
she should have called the police or was that Paul Hanson?
1:16:34
I guess that was okay. Yeah, this this can make the
1:16:41
strongest stomachs. One.
1:16:46
I throw up their contents. I just don't get it.
1:16:52
I will say this. You said to talk.
1:16:57
I will say this about. Can I don't get him.
1:17:01
I don't believe they can hoeven is a pedophile.
1:17:05
Now, some people are calling him an enabler.
1:17:10
Which if all the the above is true, where he insisted that
1:17:16
they sleep in the house with the one mattress, I would say that's
1:17:20
enabling, I don't believe it or not.
1:17:24
I don't want to believe that about Ken.
1:17:30
Until I'm until that paragraph above is proven wrong.
1:17:37
I never thought Kent, I'm jumbling things now but I never
1:17:41
thought can't was even an enabler but reading that
1:17:47
paragraph above it. Sure seems like it.
1:17:51
I certainly don't believe Kent's a pedophile and I'm just going
1:17:55
to repeat myself as far as Ken and his defense of this
1:18:03
Christians. I just don't Could I mean with
1:18:07
all the evidence? That's laid out before during
1:18:14
all the people that volunteered for this man talking about Ken
1:18:20
and wind to him and told him what was happening and he blows
1:18:24
them off and stands behind Christians.
1:18:28
I'll never get that either. He's made some bad choices
1:18:34
considering Christians, and Who knows how all this going to pan
1:18:43
out? Especially if I've heard rumors
1:18:51
that. All this stuff is under
1:18:54
investigation and if they can prove the Kent's, an enabler, I
1:19:01
don't know. I'm not a lawyer so I'm not
1:19:03
going to comment on that but I did.
1:19:07
I've heard rumors that they are definitely investigating.
1:19:15
The person. Well, The journalist here when I
1:19:21
mentioned the name, he's an adult now.
1:19:24
So I'll his name Zaire and I'm not going to give them their
1:19:28
last names. But if he, you know, the whole
1:19:34
thing said, and This has been going on and on and on.
1:19:40
And I'm sure a lot of people especially this young man.
1:19:44
This man, now he will one day have some closure at all this.
1:19:54
I did a lot of homes. I usually don't do that anymore,
1:19:57
but Anyway. That's all.
1:20:05
I really have to say about it. I I can't believe can't got
1:20:10
himself tangled up so bad and this and a lot of people I know
1:20:17
been running interference flooring, but the days coming
1:20:23
where I can, if you're watching this, you're going to have to
1:20:27
face the music and I don't say that with any Dislike for you.
1:20:38
It's just a fact. I mean tell it like it is
1:20:42
Charles Tong. I can as I just got back.
1:20:46
So If you're feeling better, right?
1:20:51
We can go on. You're about to read asked
1:20:53
whether I know about the raid and he's like, it's fine.
1:20:59
I'm the boss. I'm gonna definitely read some
1:21:03
more. I had to go out on my deck, get
1:21:05
some air and my wife heard some of the last stuff and she kind
1:21:10
of massage my shoulders a little bit though.
1:21:12
I'm a bit more relaxed but this is stressful and I also I feel
1:21:17
like a complete and utter fool All, you know, I had all these
1:21:20
people telling me all these different stories and I didn't
1:21:23
know what to believe. And now we've got it in the
1:21:25
news. Now it's actually out there.
1:21:28
This is clear as day for me now. So might be too late for some
1:21:34
people who feel like I flipped or something like that, but I
1:21:38
mean I got it all here to facts. So, here we go, let's go with
1:21:42
it. Ask whether Jones and the boy
1:21:46
shared a bed, open told The Daily Beast that he didn't
1:21:49
recall. Now that's convenient I was not
1:21:52
in the room with them. He said adding that the child is
1:21:56
very emotionally unstable, I understand and it wasn't on
1:21:59
dinosaur Adventure, Land property had to have known.
1:22:04
The asked covering was common ladies and gentlemen and that's
1:22:08
why I put him off in that house and stuff.
1:22:10
Instead of let Julie put them in a Area.
1:22:14
Right. Right.
1:22:15
Next to the church area and all that, of course, right?
1:22:20
But he knew something could possibly happening with what
1:22:22
that sure sounds like it but a child said, hey, I'm scared.
1:22:29
Can I sleep with you? I don't know that that happened,
1:22:32
but I don't see. Chris is not a pedophile if
1:22:35
that's what you are. Anybody else is driving that?
1:22:38
Yeah, of course, with the eight charges, set her out there for
1:22:43
everybody to see, he didn't know this, right?
1:22:46
No one. The Daily Beast, spoke to made.
1:22:49
Any similar allegations about the child's emotional state,
1:22:53
he's one of the best kids. I know his mother told The Daily
1:22:56
Beast. I just happened to be his mother
1:22:59
Val residents, learned a little about Jones visit at the time,
1:23:03
but for some, his presence was the final straw.
1:23:08
I had told Kent, you know, this is much bigger problem that we
1:23:11
need to be able to deal with Stony said, if Chris comes back,
1:23:15
I'll be leaving when Jones returned in January 2021.
1:23:20
Stony kept his word the day after Stoney's departure hoeven
1:23:25
held a meeting with owl residents and Jones an attempt
1:23:28
to Ally or I like concerns about Jones, has passed a recording of
1:23:33
the meeting appears to confirm some allegations about Jones
1:23:38
activity doll. So they do it again.
1:23:40
Hmm. Did you see Chris and bed with
1:23:48
the kid 1? Dou resident asked him Ministry
1:23:51
Elder in the recording? I seen Chris wrestling with the
1:23:57
kid, which I didn't think was appropriate because when there's
1:24:01
any slightness of the sex offense convictions, you don't
1:24:05
do that. The older responds, I'm pretty
1:24:08
sure I did and I told Chris no more of that.
1:24:14
Hold on, sure. All right, all right, the man
1:24:28
goes on to explain that. I was mad at Chris because I got
1:24:32
up, I said, Chris what, what is he in your bed for?
1:24:36
You've got these charges. What the heck are you in the bed
1:24:39
with the kid for completely dressed?
1:24:43
The way? People say, things holding
1:24:45
energex that he was in the bed with a child.
1:24:49
There's a way to make it sound worse than it is.
1:24:52
When down members complained that the situation look bad in
1:24:55
light of Jones convictions hovind argued.
1:24:58
That's Chris is decision and the kids decision how people here
1:25:03
reactive their decision. He's got a right to wrestle with
1:25:06
the kid if he wants to and you've got a right to say I'm
1:25:09
not getting around Chris. Later in the meeting a doll,
1:25:14
secretary complains at Jones is harming the themes Parks
1:25:18
reputation with families. During Jones previous day, a
1:25:22
mother of six children had called about a visit.
1:25:25
But explicitly asked whether Jones, was present.
1:25:28
I change the topic because I did not want to lie but then I
1:25:32
didn't want to tell the truth because I didn't know what to
1:25:35
do. So I change the topic to
1:25:37
secretary, says she realized that I did that and she said
1:25:42
That answered my question. We won't be coming there
1:25:45
anymore. After some discussion of
1:25:49
ministry, Elder announces that going forward.
1:25:52
If somebody calls this ministry and says Chris, they're just
1:25:56
simply say, the elders have got together, they've investigated
1:26:00
thoroughly, he's welcomed here and we take all precautions for
1:26:04
anybody visiting here, but the matter was far from closed,
1:26:09
Stony newly removed from Dallas. Upset about Jones.
1:26:13
Presence began looking for the childhood shared a bed with
1:26:16
Jones and late 2019. By summer 2020.
1:26:21
Stony made contact with the boy's mother.
1:26:25
Mmm, it's true. I go outside and you have people
1:26:32
with kids are taking their kids off of the property.
1:26:35
People are super mad in Facebook Messenger called it's Tony
1:26:40
shared the YouTube in June June, the boy's mother claimed, the
1:26:44
Jones touched her son's genitals to a paper towel.
1:26:47
During the Donald Trump reached for comment.
1:26:50
The boy's mother told The Daily Beast had Jones, had been her
1:26:53
boss at a Boost Mobile store and that he sometimes volunteered to
1:26:58
take two of her 72, over seven children to the mall.
1:27:02
When he offered to take her son a doll.
1:27:05
She agreed reasoning. That Jones had never posed a
1:27:08
problem to her children before, but she began to have misgivings
1:27:12
Exempt of the boy arrived at the theme park, where she said,
1:27:15
Jones and Hoban called, and asked for permission for her son
1:27:18
to share a bed with Jones. Hmm, I said no, it's not.
1:27:24
Okay. She told The Daily Beast during
1:27:27
the 2021 meeting with Alma A Jones defended his sharing a bed
1:27:32
with the boy by claiming that he had called the boy's mother who
1:27:35
said, who he said had granted permission five days after her
1:27:40
son returned from dou Shi. She said, he told her he was
1:27:43
confused about what he experienced at the park.
1:27:47
I said what happened with you, your face is almost pale and you
1:27:51
feel like you need to say something.
1:27:53
But you're scared her son, told her that Jones touched his
1:27:56
privates with the paper towel and then he was also frightened
1:27:59
at his total lack of memory of one night in the room.
1:28:05
In June shortly, after connecting with Stony, the boy's
1:28:09
mother filed, a complaint with the sheriff and they can County.
1:28:11
South Carolina were Jones, led a redacted version of the police
1:28:16
report obtained, VI Freedom of Information requests states that
1:28:20
the mother called the Sheriff's Office and stated the Jones.
1:28:23
Pulled victims pants down along with his underwear and touched
1:28:28
his private area with paper towel.
1:28:31
Respondent has no further information at this time.
1:28:36
I suspect the reason why you would have used a paper towel
1:28:39
was to keep his printers, his stuff off of the kid, right?
1:28:48
When I remember, I wasn't born a priest.
1:28:53
When I was 16 years old, if you had some hair on your face,
1:28:57
didn't you always call that a flavor?
1:28:59
Savor some people think it's paper.
1:29:01
Towels a flavor saver. Hear ye tto are how you doing?
1:29:07
I don't know if you've been seeing what we're talking about
1:29:09
here but apparently can know the Nez made it prime time, he's in
1:29:13
the news. Yep.
1:29:15
I read the article much earlier in the day and I saw marks
1:29:19
Tony's video where he was basically just reading it.
1:29:23
And yeah, I think most of the information in that article was
1:29:27
stuff that me and Cindy and marks Tony and other people had
1:29:30
already talked about in our respective channels and videos.
1:29:35
So I think the writer at The Daily Beast, either got that
1:29:38
info from like Cindy and Mark or they got it from the same Source
1:29:42
they did or combination of everything.
1:29:44
But some of this stuff is new that I didn't know before and
1:29:48
Kent's responses to The Daily Beast are pretty hilarious.
1:29:51
Yeah, so you made a video about this earlier TT War Yes.
1:29:57
Last year, I did an original expose Trilogy actually on the
1:30:02
whole Kent hovind. Chris Jones situation regarding
1:30:05
Chris Jones, bringing Zaire to DAL, and all the criminal stuff
1:30:09
that was involved. Just with allowing that to
1:30:11
happen. Is just so much dirt, that's
1:30:15
involved with just that situation of can't.
1:30:18
Exactly was able to make a whole trilogy of videos out of it,
1:30:22
especially after Zaire. Finally came out and spoke with
1:30:25
his mother. About what happened, which show
1:30:27
that a lot of the things can't was saying last year about the
1:30:29
situation where just utter lies, especially the part where he
1:30:33
said that Zaire and his mom didn't want to talk about this
1:30:36
stuff, it was all just a bunch of drama and they just wanted it
1:30:40
all to go away and stuff like that when those two finally
1:30:43
spoke out last year, demarks Tony, they said that that was
1:30:47
not true at all. They were more than willing to
1:30:49
talk about what happened and that's when they talked about
1:30:52
the charges against Chris Jones that they were going to pursue.
1:30:55
As The Daily Beast article reiterates.
1:30:58
I have a recording of Kent hovind actually saying that the
1:31:02
mother is a liar. She's a drug addict on welfare
1:31:05
and all that stuff, I'll be putting that recording up on the
1:31:08
radio. Yesterday, I did about a
1:31:11
30-minute stint of playing, all kinds of different phone calls,
1:31:14
of all the different stories that I heard on there
1:31:17
unfortunately at the three-hour Mark and not Mark a non-believer
1:31:21
came in and decided to put a dick up on the screen.
1:31:24
So I had to put the audio version up on the thing.
1:31:27
I'll blur out the original clip and there's just unbelievable
1:31:31
amounts of content there that you may want to check out.
1:31:34
But if you could do me a favor after I get done doing the show
1:31:38
about this, this was a the full topic of what I plan on talking
1:31:42
about tonight. I would like to be putting
1:31:45
everything you've documented and all the expensive stuff that
1:31:48
marks Tony is done and it'll be one long program for people to
1:31:52
be able to check out if that's okay with you.
1:31:54
Yeah I just Just need to grab my work, my playlist.
1:31:59
I can't, I give you everything works.
1:32:01
Tony or Cindy is done, but I can certainly give you the playlist.
1:32:05
I have for the whole Kent hovind, Chris Jones, part of the
1:32:09
story. Okay, I'll put that in the
1:32:12
private chat right now, I appreciate it.
1:32:16
I'll get it all up there. If there's a lot of them, then
1:32:19
I'll have to do like parts and everything like that.
1:32:22
I can do up to six hours shows or in the radio and all that.
1:32:25
So it's see my total run time for all my video.
1:32:29
Well, unfortunately, just me alone is about six hours worth
1:32:34
of information, and we'll have to do an entire track and just
1:32:38
you teeth. You are talking about this.
1:32:41
This Charles, if you got anything on you channel that you
1:32:44
feel should be heard and all that, that is of importance to
1:32:48
all this. So I'll be more than happy to
1:32:50
put it up as well. Okay.
1:32:51
I'm sure. I do have to go through the
1:32:53
video. I know.
1:32:55
I do. So yeah, I'll go through all.
1:33:00
Is what it is. This is got to be heard this.
1:33:02
People got to hear about what's going on here.
1:33:05
This was his decision and you know I looked at what Kent was
1:33:10
quoted for in the article. He said it was only one night,
1:33:13
his remarks Tony and Minnie doll workers said no it was a week
1:33:18
actually four days and marks Tony on his channel actually
1:33:22
showed the text messages to prove that it was four days
1:33:25
long. So yeah, can't lie to The Daily
1:33:27
Beast about that. Well, that's correct them.
1:33:30
Rojo, you lied on my show, but Yeah, and also I you guys I'll
1:33:36
be right back. I gotta check out a different
1:33:40
room in my house here. Okay.
1:33:43
Yeah. Apparently all those nights just
1:33:45
ran together for can't and he remembers it all as one night.
1:33:50
Oh boy. Also, I read up here, and I
1:33:54
could have swore shunkan told me about this before but
1:33:57
apparently, Julie tried to actually put Chris Jones and the
1:34:01
kid in a room that had two beds. Yeah, I know then actually said,
1:34:06
no, let's get them laying on a mattress in the floor and
1:34:09
another building. Yeah, I remember her saying that
1:34:12
to, I don't remember if it was, I think it may have been on your
1:34:15
stream last year that she said that and she could have said it
1:34:17
on other streams as well but I definitely remember.
1:34:20
Amber her saying that. So that part of the story Rings.
1:34:23
True for me too. If based on my memory, that's
1:34:26
the part about this story. That's really cool to me.
1:34:29
It's like, wow, I know several of these people that are being
1:34:33
quoted in this story, they were on my livestream, who he could
1:34:36
go. And yeah, a lot of the stuff
1:34:39
that I read in the story, it's like old news to me, because
1:34:42
we've covered so much of that on all of our channels, but it's
1:34:46
still cool to see what we've been covering for over a year.
1:34:49
Make it into The mainstream media.
1:34:52
Yeah. So jlr, ask is TT, you are
1:34:58
Christian Matthew, says, yes tto.
1:35:00
As a Christian yes, he's a Christian and a very, very good
1:35:03
one ptr's been helping me for the past couple years, be able
1:35:07
to find the right direction that I need to go with with God and
1:35:10
all that. And I've met Father, Charles
1:35:14
last year, he's a real good guy. So yeah, I got to be very
1:35:19
careful who I put my trust and nowadays.
1:35:21
I can't just say someone wears a label of Kirsten And then just,
1:35:26
you know, jump on that train. I've been getting, I feel like a
1:35:29
damn fool after reading all this and Brian Vaughn, man.
1:35:32
All these people told me this and told me that, but, you know,
1:35:36
teeth urm in the same position as you.
1:35:39
I'm on a phone, I'm a distance away.
1:35:41
I don't know any of these people personally, right?
1:35:44
That's where a lot of discernment comes in.
1:35:46
You basically have to get a read on people and you need to be as
1:35:51
objective as possible when Gathering and evaluating facts.
1:35:55
Like when I put my expose videos together and even my recent
1:35:59
videos I did that weren't about the Chris Jones situation.
1:36:02
I really wanted to make sure that everything I said was
1:36:05
backed up either by video or an article or an official document
1:36:10
or like a court document or whatever that was the best way
1:36:14
for me to evaluate the situation was to go on things that you
1:36:18
could prove by appealing to something like that.
1:36:22
That takes a lot of that takes. A lot of work though, as you as
1:36:25
you know, yeah, your videos are extensive.
1:36:28
I said, I've been telling people over and over, you need to check
1:36:30
out TT Awards videos. He he archives, and he's like a
1:36:34
machine over there, he's just making it happen.
1:36:37
Speaking of making things happen.
1:36:39
You'll never guess what came in my mailbox yesterday.
1:36:44
Oh, geez. Let me, let me put you up on the
1:36:47
big screen real quick. So, everybody can see that.
1:36:51
Yeah that's right. Someone got Frets book.
1:36:58
I'll do a formal promotion review of it on my channel as a
1:37:01
separate video later but I have started reading it and I'm
1:37:04
making good progress. Good deal.
1:37:07
Good deal. I'm looking forward to hearing
1:37:09
your book review, man. I know, you'll be honest and
1:37:12
stuff. So you either love it or it's
1:37:14
just terrible. It's good firewood, though.
1:37:16
Well, I can tell you, I can tell you right now, it's going to be
1:37:19
a positive review for sure. Just based off of the see.
1:37:23
How far am I I'm on page? 72, and I can already, I grew.
1:37:28
And I can already tell that it's going to be a good review.
1:37:32
Well, thank you, sir. I appreciate that.
1:37:35
I'm glad you came in because I was starting the ball over here
1:37:38
and I needed air. I felt like I was gonna vomit
1:37:41
after some, of the things I've read.
1:37:43
I've seen how bothered you got. One of you were reading off,
1:37:45
some of the charges on Chris Jones as well.
1:37:48
Yeah, my original expose came with a lot of disclaimer.
1:37:51
Hours. Whenever I was about to read the
1:37:53
official documentation on, Chris Jones, I can look back on it now
1:37:57
and laugh. But when I was initially dealing
1:37:59
with it and put it in my Exposé, she together it was like your
1:38:02
reaction basically just. Yeah.
1:38:08
Now, let's continue to read some more here.
1:38:10
We're almost finished with the article.
1:38:12
I think it looks like the scroll buttons.
1:38:14
Getting smaller and smaller. Let's see if police conducted
1:38:18
any further investigation. It does not appear in the Foia,
1:38:22
I had or whatever version of this report on August 16th, the
1:38:26
case status was changed to close hovind denied, knowledge of the
1:38:31
police report. I never heard of that report.
1:38:33
He told The Daily Beast had to accuse him of something to put
1:38:37
him in jail because of his political stance yet in a voice
1:38:42
mail, uploaded to YouTube by Hogan's acquaintance, the
1:38:46
preacher appears to acknowledge a criminal complaint and the
1:38:49
voicemail Holden complains that the Boys, pressing charges
1:38:53
against Chris Jones? This whole drama is never going
1:38:56
to quit, brother, just completely ignore them.
1:38:59
You know, who that recording is to?
1:39:01
That's to me, really? I was like, you
1:39:21
All I get is recorded in that specific one.
1:39:24
They just mentioned is on my radio right now.
1:39:27
If anyone wants to get it for themselves or grab it off
1:39:30
Sundays Channel, you know, I've always told all these people
1:39:33
they're more than welcome to grab the content and say what
1:39:37
they're going to say about it. Right?
1:39:39
Yes. Yeah I just love how his a
1:39:41
response to you know Chris Jones being brought up on charges for
1:39:44
what he did. Desire.
1:39:46
His gut response is to say that all of us who reported on it and
1:39:50
we're talking about it. Before you know, it became
1:39:52
official. Apparently we're all the morons
1:39:55
in the evil people but I'm not Chris Jones.
1:39:58
I mean he would have thought at that point.
1:39:59
Can't we be like man? I'm so sorry that I believe
1:40:03
Chris Jones. Was this good guy who didn't do
1:40:05
any of these things? Now I have to apologize to all
1:40:08
the people I've heard about this and I have to reconsider
1:40:11
everything he's ever told me. You'd think he'd have a more
1:40:13
sober reflective, you know, examination of his whole
1:40:18
standing with Chris Jones after you know that happened but Said,
1:40:22
well, we got the message, he sent Brett.
1:40:25
Typical her over there it is, there it is right there.
1:40:29
Joven complains that the boy is pressing charges against.
1:40:32
Chris Jones. Is whole drama is never going to
1:40:35
quit, brother, just completely ignore them.
1:40:38
And that right there will tell you that he was talking to a
1:40:40
male because he says, brother not sister or anything like
1:40:44
that. Just completely ignore them
1:40:46
hoeven says, he says something indistinct, then adds a bunch of
1:40:51
more. Yawns.
1:40:52
That's exactly what's on the recording.
1:40:56
Yeah. Okay.
1:40:58
So Holden told The Daily Beast that he did not remember the
1:41:01
voicemail or its context. I do not eat said, but you know
1:41:06
what happens in the rest of the world, I can't control.
1:41:10
Well, of course, and nothing happened here.
1:41:13
If Chris did anything inappropriately.
1:41:15
First of all, I don't believe that for a second, but if he
1:41:18
did, or maybe it's an allegation, and you need to talk
1:41:21
to, Him not me, grows the dad, dude, right under the bus.
1:41:25
He says, he'll which I think I said he would do last year.
1:41:31
If I remember right where I told someone last year that he would,
1:41:34
that if Chris Jones would become an inconvenience to his ministry
1:41:37
in any way, he would throw him under the bus, just like he
1:41:40
threw so many others, under the bus and seems like he's laying
1:41:44
the groundwork for that right there in The Daily Beast
1:41:46
article. That's assuming he hasn't done
1:41:51
it already. I mean I've ever ever brought
1:41:54
your channel last year. Brett, you had said in a video
1:41:57
that can't had called you and basically said that, you know,
1:42:01
the whole Chris Jones thing had been resolved and that he
1:42:03
basically had like watched his hands of Chris Jones was that,
1:42:07
am I remembering that ride, or was it something else that, you
1:42:09
know, he said something to that effect, but Chris Jones, aye.
1:42:14
As you know, ended up contacting me and actual plea, they were
1:42:18
talking about actually having Him on God TV radio, and
1:42:21
remember what? I said, Keith you are about all
1:42:23
that. I said this is going to be
1:42:25
awful, but go ahead. Sure, let's have him up on the
1:42:28
show and have him talk and everything.
1:42:30
And that's whenever I didn't get the full picture of what was
1:42:33
going on yet. I was still in defense of Kent
1:42:36
hovind mode at that time, but yeah, he was supposed to come on
1:42:40
there, but he kept on like delaying and delaying every time
1:42:43
I'd get something scheduled. He delay had to Chris Jones
1:42:47
interview coming up and all that.
1:42:49
Well Kent said, okay, so me and Chris talked and Chris is going
1:42:53
to come back down and dinosaur Adventure, Land.
1:42:55
We're going to get on video and talk about it but that never
1:42:59
happened either. And I don't know why these
1:43:01
people send these people out here.
1:43:02
They keep saying, how Brett, why do you keep saying he's lying
1:43:06
for how many lives do we got to catch him in before these cult
1:43:10
members? You know, like something snaps,
1:43:12
a light bulb goes off, right and respond.
1:43:15
And then I get back to reading. Yeah, I was just going To say
1:43:20
that whole Chris Jones thing that was supposed to happen on
1:43:23
his channel, never did take place and I have a strong
1:43:26
suspicion although I could be wrong.
1:43:28
I have a strong suspicion that they decided to cancel that
1:43:31
decision after they saw my second expose where I responded
1:43:36
to can't going on to Brett's Channel.
1:43:38
And basically admitting that, he had allowed Chris Jones to
1:43:41
commit a felony by letting Zaire and him sleep under the same
1:43:45
roof, which in turn means the Kent hovind committed a Class, A
1:43:48
misdemeanor. Here that's around the same time
1:43:51
that they were supposed to give that you know Chris Jones
1:43:54
defense on his channel and then never took place, I'm wondering
1:43:58
if it's because of my Exposé on that.
1:44:01
If people need to check that out, you need to go to teach you
1:44:04
our Channel. And yeah that's the second video
1:44:07
in my playlist by the way that I sent you here, let me let me go
1:44:11
ahead and post this out to post a playlist of people if you want
1:44:16
to see it later. Alright, now we're going to
1:44:18
discuss this news article but DTU ours got an extensive deal.
1:44:23
You can also go to my Community page and tons of tpr is videos
1:44:28
are up there as well as marks Tony stuff.
1:44:31
And that would be where you want to take one.
1:44:34
So, here we go. Let's let's forward on with the
1:44:38
stuff Stony. And the child's mother said they
1:44:40
have spoken with investigators about the case.
1:44:43
I ain't going to say no allegation because my son don't
1:44:46
have no reason to lie. His mother said at all at all,
1:44:50
drugs, late-night raid and a dead dog.
1:44:54
Oh goodness. Gracious.
1:44:56
As down member thought over the presence of Chris Jones at the
1:45:01
To park another Scandal was roiling the community one that
1:45:05
concerned dowels Tech Guy steveland Lincoln and former
1:45:09
Delaware resident. Jody Peta, nagar told The Daily
1:45:12
Beast that Lynn tampered with a drug test and Holden required
1:45:16
for compound residence when Lincoln and Stony reported.
1:45:20
They're concerned to hold them at the time, they say they were
1:45:23
accused of Femme and Dean fomenting Rebellion against the
1:45:28
doll leader which set off to Creation of Lincoln's marriage.
1:45:33
Wow. Rates be iPhone, lend declined
1:45:37
to comment asking the answer questions via email.
1:45:40
He did not return to answers the questions submitted via email.
1:45:44
Nevertheless by 2021 Lynn had admitted a drug use in court
1:45:49
records in August of that year Lynn was arrested for alleged
1:45:53
car theft while disputing the charge in court when filed an
1:45:57
affidavit blaming the incident on temporary drug Build
1:46:01
delusion. So Steve Lynn was up there.
1:46:04
He's the guy that had porn on his computer, right?
1:46:07
And he's they did the videos about him running off and
1:46:12
screwing around with that vehicle, right?
1:46:14
Heath, you are that was we have video clips of that?
1:46:17
Yeah there's video clips of that.
1:46:20
Yes. Yeah, I believe there is and I'm
1:46:24
just thinking about this big picture thing when you're
1:46:27
reading through this article and I'm thinking about all the
1:46:29
videos I've made and others. Have, there's not necessarily a
1:46:33
pedo ring at Dal like some people have asserted, but
1:46:36
there's definitely a diverse criminal Community there.
1:46:39
I mean, you got one, we got one, you got another one, bringing
1:46:46
eleven-year-old boys to the campus and then having overnight
1:46:49
stays at the house. Next door and got a druggie,
1:46:53
who's making pornos Productions in his apartment as building
1:46:56
with all of the ministry equipment, and all that stuff.
1:46:59
And my Lots not Forget about that.
1:47:02
Let's not forget about the sadomasochism to, I heard there.
1:47:06
What's chains and handcuffs and was that with the other Tech
1:47:11
guy, or was thats also with Steve, that's the part.
1:47:13
I get confused. As far as I know that was Steve
1:47:18
as well. Steve Allen.
1:47:19
Yes, Okay, goodness, gracious. And doing Dungeons & Dragons
1:47:25
down there to, uh, all right. That's the only conclusion I can
1:47:49
come too. All right, here we go folks.
1:48:02
I affirm that the time and date of the offense, one wrote, I was
1:48:06
under a drug-induced necessity of duress.
1:48:09
What the hell does that mean? He was high?
1:48:12
Why I get all like complicated about mistakenly believing that
1:48:15
my adult son who lives in Missouri had somehow come to all
1:48:20
Alabama and was in that Monroeville, Walmart desperately
1:48:24
needing my help. And I abandoned my forty five
1:48:26
thousand dollar Jeep with the keys, in it, and running in the
1:48:30
Marvin's parking lot. What kind of drugs was he doing?
1:48:35
Tell me what an angel dust. Oh, gosh, some very strong
1:48:39
drugs. Obviously, I mean, you know that
1:48:43
your son is in Missouri but then you think he's an Alabama, just
1:48:47
on a whim. And what's he doing at?
1:48:50
Walmart picking up some Bakery? Donuts, I don't know Haley.
1:48:54
That's read the text message on his phone.
1:48:58
Oh goodness. Where I took another man's
1:49:01
truck. Likely value to run ten thousand
1:49:03
dollars and that had its keys in it.
1:49:07
I was just so hot. I did I decide to steal a truck
1:49:09
rather than drive my own, which was forty five thousand dollars.
1:49:15
Instead of 10 you're going to commit a crime.
1:49:18
Why men do it in style, must be taking the profit difference to
1:49:23
finance and to his equipment. There you go.
1:49:27
Yeah, you left the getaway vehicle at this place where he
1:49:30
burglarized. Oh, goodness and drove it to the
1:49:33
Monroeville Walmart and parked it, where I ran inside and that
1:49:39
while this false, but very real to me at the time, mental duress
1:49:43
was so aren't going when when, and where I was arrested inside
1:49:48
a Walmart. Did not resist.
1:49:49
The officer is arrest. This is probably, you know, not
1:49:53
to be ignorant, but this is probably one of the main
1:49:55
reasons, why a lot of Kent's videos have streaming issues and
1:49:59
all this stuff, cause you got two guys, in order playing
1:50:02
Dungeons and Dragons, and his little cage or whatever, he's
1:50:05
got going on and getting high and doing streaming videos, this
1:50:08
is probably one of the big reasons.
1:50:10
It's not an internet issue, folks, it's a tech who's armed
1:50:13
drug issue? He is really focused on making
1:50:16
the perfect pornographic video and Oh, and we forgot to bring
1:50:20
all of his excellent video making skills to think I could
1:50:25
be totally wrong gentlemen. But when he speaks of mental
1:50:29
duress, I think he may be referring to that.
1:50:34
He may have been in the beginnings of withdraw because
1:50:38
he did not have the drugs, he needed to keep him going.
1:50:44
Hmm, I could be wrong but As Matthew said, can't doesn't even
1:50:51
get divorced before he marries. Again, that's true.
1:50:54
Technically, he's married to like I think he's married to
1:50:58
three women right now. Technically never divorced.
1:51:01
Mary, he never really divorced Cindy and he's married.
1:51:06
Allegedly to Sandra. So, and as far as Joe goes, Joe
1:51:11
divorced him, followed the papers.
1:51:14
So he came, he's the one that forced her to I tried to be a
1:51:19
good husband. She would not have done that.
1:51:22
Well, I tell you, what is it me? Or is it ironic that around the
1:51:27
same time? This news drops a man power
1:51:31
packs, his bags. As I see you, I know.
1:51:33
Isn't it amazing? How he left town just before
1:51:37
this dropped? It's almost like he knew it was
1:51:40
coming. This is rough.
1:51:43
That's rough either that it's the world's biggest
1:51:46
co-inky-dink. I mean, I don't know.
1:51:48
Well, I got Say I said it, if you were listening t2r, I had
1:51:53
mentioned a brat earlier in the show that Matt pal was against
1:51:59
this whole Chris Jones thing. At least when I was down there
1:52:04
in July, he even told gone Kent, this has got to stop.
1:52:08
You got to stop defending this guy.
1:52:11
He's a pedophile. And you're not, you're not
1:52:14
helping Dal. You're just bringing it down.
1:52:18
Down by as you keep defending him.
1:52:22
So I know there was a little riff there.
1:52:25
Well, the only way I think that Matt pal can clean up his own
1:52:29
reputation after this is, he's got to make a public video.
1:52:33
He's got to denounce us. This wickedness as he will.
1:52:36
That's going on. Do you agree?
1:52:38
I agree there. Yeah I think I think he needs to
1:52:41
speak out about definitely about the Christians Fiasco woke up.
1:52:48
I agree with Yeah, for his own reputation.
1:52:50
Say, because Matt Pals, no, that's not a good person either
1:52:54
in my opinion. But for his reputation sake, he
1:52:57
has to come out and say something publicly about why I
1:53:00
had to defend him because I heard it with my own ears.
1:53:04
When I was down in July of 2022, there was a meeting in the
1:53:08
church and actually not was the one that spoke up and said, and
1:53:14
he got up and said enough and I mean, louder.
1:53:18
No, I just Said it and went on to light into kind of a doubt.
1:53:23
You've got the stop this with Chris Jones.
1:53:26
I'll leave it at that. Well I'll tell you what, did you
1:53:30
learn? Father Charles, if Matt panels
1:53:32
out there listener, hears this later if you want to clean up a
1:53:36
whole lot of your reputation, you need to come out and
1:53:39
actually say how you felt about all this and others bothered
1:53:42
you. If you don't then people are
1:53:44
going to think you're just being quiet because you're waiting on
1:53:47
the day, you get the doll. Early after Kent goes and that
1:53:50
you're always going to have that hanging over your damn head like
1:53:53
a Halo. It's not going to be a good
1:53:55
halo. Let me write in journals, you're
1:53:57
right. Do the right thing, man.
1:54:02
Do it. We know you got it in you.
1:54:04
All right, so let's continue reading.
1:54:06
Looks like TT. Ours.
1:54:07
Working on something. Here we go.
1:54:10
Audio recordings from a doll meeting shortly after his arrest
1:54:13
reviewed by The Daily Beast reveal holding the acknowledging
1:54:16
lens drug use, Steve messed up. He's got back into drugs.
1:54:21
No question. He blew it over and tells
1:54:24
Congress and to express concern about limbs arrest.
1:54:27
He goes on to complain that because of the drug use.
1:54:30
Darn, he was hallucinating. He thought the cops were after
1:54:33
him so he didn't get in his car. He got into another car and took
1:54:36
off. Okay, after Lin's arrest Joven,
1:54:41
sent followers to clear outlands House, Trevor Guilford.
1:54:45
A former doll resident, told The Daily Beast that he was darn
1:54:48
campus at night. I was leaving there in a week,
1:54:50
so I wasn't invited to plunder, but I remember that night, very
1:54:54
well, Guilford wrote Bhai text message, he continued that I
1:54:58
didn't see them leave but I did see them return the doll with
1:55:01
the trailers, full of stuff from Steve's house that the late
1:55:05
night operation, left some doll. It's wondering about the raids
1:55:09
legality, they're in a meeting. The president's push Tobin are
1:55:13
in whether they were legally allowed to remove items from
1:55:16
one's home, especially because some might belong to Lin's mom
1:55:19
doll clients. If he works for 15, other
1:55:23
companies, how do you know all this stuff was CFCs.
1:55:27
One doll worker says on a recording in reference to opens
1:55:30
Ministry. Christian Science evangelism and
1:55:33
other audio recording by the farmer doll Carpenter.
1:55:36
Jeff koobs there. We viewed by The Daily.
1:55:39
Beast shows groups are raising concerns about the raid.
1:55:42
These things are legally questionable like cops
1:55:45
questionable goobers hell's holding on the recording.
1:55:48
Like what Joven replies like being over at Steve's were
1:55:52
clearing out his house with your sign, your phone number on the
1:55:55
side of the van. Do you not think these solder
1:55:58
and people talk? You don't think that his face in
1:56:01
the picture, a mug shot of winning the newspaper, then they
1:56:05
see your van outside of this house.
1:56:07
Doc you got to start making better decisions.
1:56:11
Wow, these people tried everything they could make
1:56:16
children be coherent to make sense and do the right thing and
1:56:22
he doesn't get any medical attention.
1:56:27
Why do you why would it? Why would he do that?
1:56:29
He's got all these people who wanted to support him and help
1:56:32
him. Why did he ignore them and
1:56:34
continue to dump all over them. One could only guess, maybe
1:56:44
figured he had Supreme mental capability.
1:56:55
All right, let's get some more going here hoof.
1:57:02
All right. Okay, former down members.
1:57:07
Also accuse Lenna. Stealing Ministry money and
1:57:10
shooting a dog to death. Now, send me for the longest
1:57:14
time said, this dude was walking around with the game done.
1:57:18
I had no way to verify that because well, I'm not down
1:57:21
there. I didn't know.
1:57:22
And I remember Ken Tobin claiming, oh, he didn't carry
1:57:25
around a gun he just had morning.
1:57:27
Would basically saying that he had a bone, right?
1:57:29
He's obviously had a gun if he killed the dog down there.
1:57:36
The morning. After Linda Rogers, Tobin
1:57:39
convened, the Dow meeting said Guilford, who attended the
1:57:41
Gathering. During the meeting, a staffer
1:57:44
who driven Lynn home from jail, told the group that they're in
1:57:47
the ride when it confessed to embezzling tens of thousands of
1:57:51
dollars from the ministry asked about the alleged crime home and
1:57:55
said, Lynn had admitted to using Ministry credit card to buy
1:57:59
things that he really should not have and did not have
1:58:02
authorization to, but I think he's made most of that up.
1:58:05
I mean, he's repented, and given us back some things.
1:58:10
She's so the dudes, probably over there by taking Kent,
1:58:14
hovind's money, and in Mayan products, for he and his
1:58:17
friends. Yeah, must be nice to go out.
1:58:22
Spend in someone else's credit card.
1:58:24
And anyway, wow, goodness gracious, drinks are on me,
1:58:29
y'all heroines open a whatever, man.
1:58:35
This is just This is wicked. The it worker also removed cast
1:58:40
directly from a donation box, chunk claimed, I was in the
1:58:44
science center giving the tour, she recalled, Steve Wynn pulls
1:58:47
up and it's car drives right up to the doors gets out.
1:58:51
Goes inside the science and are unlocks a donation box takes a
1:58:56
lot of cash. Shoves it in his right pocket
1:58:59
gets in his car and leaves chunk didn't want to interrupt the
1:59:02
tour and make a scene in front of visitors but after the Doors.
1:59:06
She took her concerns to hold them, dr.
1:59:08
Hoban says to me, Julie Steve can do whatever he wants to do.
1:59:12
She said, wow. Yeah, I hear.
1:59:18
He was the golden with a going. The Golden Boy.
1:59:21
You're the golden, son of the golden calf.
1:59:23
The Golden Boy, he was Ken's Golden Boy.
1:59:27
He could do no wrong and he could tell no lies.
1:59:33
And he was lying about everything.
1:59:38
Wow. all right, so Says, hoeven told The Daily Beast.
1:59:47
I don't know if that happened and I certainly would never say
1:59:50
that. Of course, course pet nagar.
1:59:54
And her husband also accused Lynn of killing their dog, a
1:59:57
hounding Bagel that couple at odds with some doll residents
2:00:01
had by the time pulled Resources with another couple and moved
2:00:05
off campus to a huge house across from Len.
2:00:08
Bagel frequently visited lynne's house to see his dog to lens
2:00:13
charge and pet me. Merced.
2:00:16
Chagrin not charging after one, such visit, Lynn text PM and her
2:00:21
husband, The Bagel had wandered onto his property and that he'd
2:00:25
return the Hound to put in his house, putting her found the
2:00:28
message, odd. She and her husband had been
2:00:31
doing work in the yard all day. She said, they hadn't seen Lynn
2:00:34
come by with the dog. They say, they found Bagels
2:00:38
bullet-riddled corpse on the side of a Road near doll.
2:00:42
The next day, when petting, a gardener who accused Lenny
2:00:45
denied the Gates and he produced security footage from his house,
2:00:49
showing them holding Bagel by the collar leading her.
2:00:52
He said to his truck to drive her home, but the footage was
2:00:56
filmed our that their land text about dropping off Bagel PM
2:01:01
claimed an hours before the dog was found dead.
2:01:05
If you drove from his yard to our yard, take less than a
2:01:08
minute. Pitner said, if you walked him
2:01:11
it might take five. But the length of that time,
2:01:13
that took him in the video to load big lump in the car.
2:01:16
Our and reappear back from the yard going by the headlights on
2:01:19
his car. He was gone. 10. 15 minutes at
2:01:23
the time. Bagels death Lynn was renting a
2:01:26
home from Lincoln who asked him to move out.
2:01:29
In summer 2020. Open agreed to have Lynn vacate.
2:01:32
The property by July 1 that year.
2:01:34
She said, Lynn stayed in the house by December 23rd.
2:01:38
I filed an eviction Lincoln said When left the house January 2021
2:01:44
but not before, stripping it in the studs, he stole my washer
2:01:48
and dryer and took every fixture of the wall.
2:01:51
The thermostat, the phone jacks. The lights.
2:01:54
He took the backsplash. All to kitchen wall, he took the
2:01:58
kitchen sink. She said adding that an
2:02:01
electrician later, surveyed the damage.
2:02:03
And told her that one of the seven wires was from a stolen
2:02:07
dishwasher could have killed somebody.
2:02:11
Lincoln stood land and one an approximately ten thousand
2:02:15
dollar judgment in February 20, 22 after Lin failed to show up
2:02:19
at Court, he has not yet paid her the money.
2:02:23
She said Lynn is currently awaiting trial for his car theft
2:02:28
arrest. What's up?
2:02:32
Did you have some you want to say Charles?
2:02:34
No, I didn't say anything. I was following along with you.
2:02:39
He's casing Grand Theft Auto, that's 5 to 15 years.
2:02:47
And she successfully sued him for stealing a bunch of stuff
2:02:52
and also making the house dangerous for her.
2:02:55
But apparently, you never paid a cent out of what he was sued
2:02:58
for. Well, she can go back and
2:03:01
follow. I forget how long you have to
2:03:04
wait and maybe 90 days and maybe sick.
2:03:07
It depends on the state and then she can garnish his wages.
2:03:13
There you go. Okay, when is currently awaiting
2:03:19
trial for his car theft arrest, despite claiming and court
2:03:23
records. I do not have a criminal
2:03:24
conviction history and this state, or any other state.
2:03:28
He is twice, pleaded guilty to theft and Missouri.
2:03:31
There, he also has an open warrant a clerk for the state.
2:03:34
S, Judicial Circuit Court confirmed for The Daily Beast.
2:03:38
The want regards lens failure to appear and a case of largely
2:03:42
fraudulently using credit card debit device.
2:03:46
Wow. Open claim to be unaware of the
2:03:51
warrant. When doll residents asked about
2:03:53
it in meeting recording show during that meeting.
2:03:56
He also defended moving removing Lynn from the drug habilitation
2:04:00
facility. He entered after his arrest.
2:04:03
Why did you take them out of rehab?
2:04:05
A woman asked cheerfully on the recording.
2:04:07
I took him out of rehab to go. Get his laptop up here to get
2:04:11
the passwords and stuff over and replies over until the day would
2:04:15
be someone now works in logging, not at now.
2:04:18
Had lunch a couple weeks ago, the X mrs.
2:04:22
Hoving the third despite the death of a child at the park and
2:04:26
accusations that his friend molested, another kid on his
2:04:29
watch. Holding still operates towel and
2:04:32
makes regular videos on YouTube where he has more than two
2:04:35
15,000 subscribers. Those fans helped compromise
2:04:40
comprise, that affects doll resident, said, with the study
2:04:44
turn of new supporters, meanwhile, Holden is facing is
2:04:48
Own criminal case and light 2020.
2:04:50
He body Sam Lincoln in her home, sending her to the emergency
2:04:54
room, according to a protection order hoeven.
2:04:57
Also took an audio recording of the incident.
2:05:00
The disturbing audio includes loud bangs and Lincoln streams
2:05:04
while holding States. What are you doing Cindy?
2:05:07
Why would you jump on me? And grabbed me, Cindy Lincoln
2:05:10
said Holden later distributed, the audio as evidence for his
2:05:14
claim that Lincoln is bipolar and 2021.
2:05:17
He was convicted of domestic violence in the incident.
2:05:20
He denies that he was abusive and is appealing the ruling,
2:05:24
he's trying to appeal it, but apparently he has been charged
2:05:28
with domestic abuse against from the Lincoln.
2:05:31
Yeah, he's been charged but there They had a switch judges
2:05:36
and I guess they're waiting for the next court date.
2:05:39
It's going to be a jury trial. Oof, that's gonna be rough.
2:05:47
Well, I hope that neither one of them decides to bring that
2:05:50
Joanna because I told you she's a firecracker.
2:05:53
Yeah. All right.
2:05:55
Poison cookies anyway. Yeah.
2:05:58
And also I she claims that ghosts hang out on the roof and
2:06:03
have sex. I didn't hear that one.
2:06:06
Hmm. Yeah, that's a, that's
2:06:08
wonderful. Okay.
2:06:11
Yeah. I'll be inquiring.
2:06:13
I'm sorry. While the court case pens
2:06:16
Lincoln's trying to recoup money.
2:06:18
She lost her no alone. She made the doll, which
2:06:21
constituted most of her retirement savings, the church
2:06:25
stop repaying the loan after she left home.
2:06:27
And she said she has been unable to find the loan signal
2:06:31
signatory. A hold them supported to serve
2:06:33
him legal papers, the statute of limitations in a lawsuit expires
2:06:37
of spring instead of retiring as she'd hoped Lincoln.
2:06:41
Now, 60 has re-entered the job market, Wow.
2:06:48
Another former doll resident. James Duncan went public with
2:06:52
similar allegations, in 2021, in July.
2:06:55
He had been a doll member nearly 20, 21 attending the meeting
2:06:58
with Jones. I want to make public record.
2:07:01
Kin, Tobin has clearly de frauded, me and entered into a
2:07:04
trust with me in the name of doll and broke that trust cost.
2:07:08
Me probably over a hundred thousand dollars.
2:07:10
Duncan he's picture still appears on the Dell site wrote
2:07:14
in an anti hilbun Facebook group.
2:07:18
Yeah, The Daily Beast was unable to verify the allegation because
2:07:23
Duncan died of suicide in late 2020, to open it.
2:07:27
Now, trustees told The Daily Beast that no such trust
2:07:31
existed. Duncan's Widow told The Daily
2:07:34
Beast has, she can now say one way or another.
2:07:37
That there was a formal trust, my husband had a knack for
2:07:40
following conspiracy theorist. She said adding that she tried
2:07:43
to discourage his move down there She said that her husband
2:07:48
likely had approximately 100,000 dollars in belongings that he
2:07:51
moved the dowel. He was unable to retrieve his
2:07:54
belongings when he left the compound which set off about of
2:07:57
depression is what L said. My husband finally saw them all
2:08:01
for the type of people, they are.
2:08:03
She said, and could not get over the big mistake in
2:08:06
disappointment of moving his stuff there.
2:08:09
So a man ended up after being robbed of all of his money and
2:08:13
belongings. That was on dowel killed
2:08:15
himself. Elf, right?
2:08:17
And if you guys if you scroll down Brett she's a good
2:08:22
journalist. Go to the very end, all you got
2:08:25
to do a little bit up there, just a little bit up towards the
2:08:28
paragraph right there. If you really read it, my
2:08:33
husband, finally saw them for all the type of people.
2:08:36
They are. She said, and could not get over
2:08:39
the big mistake and disappointment of moving his
2:08:43
stuff there. I bet you she wanted.
2:08:45
So, Bad complete it with. And so he took his own life.
2:08:59
Sad. And that's the first I've heard
2:09:03
about this guy. By the way, I don't know if you
2:09:05
had heard anything about this guy before this article.
2:09:15
You're you're muted Brett. No, I was saying that I am
2:09:22
grabbing the email. I think that I'm going to
2:09:24
contact her with all the shows and recordings and all that.
2:09:28
And what I'm doing a full arm, ex parte on that deal.
2:09:33
Yeah, she'll get to hear all the contradictory accounts of Kendo
2:09:39
Bend, and, and then they can go from there, mmm-hmm?
2:09:46
Oof YMS, but that's for sure. We make sure the email copied
2:09:53
right there it is. So if anybody's interested, if
2:10:00
you have any kind of if marks, Tony does not have this
2:10:05
information or other people who feel like they have something to
2:10:08
add, there is the journalists as email people can email her, with
2:10:13
whatever you got, whatever you want to say.
2:10:16
You feel like you have something to add all that.
2:10:22
We got to put this up on the screen.
2:10:27
Let's get rid of that stops hearing.
2:10:31
Wow. So, what is your future plans?
2:10:35
I'm going to be shutting this down in a little bit.
2:10:37
You want to plug your channel and tell people what kind of
2:10:40
excitement they'll find up the Father Charles house.
2:10:44
It's a Pastor Chuck official is the name of my channel and we do
2:10:53
a variety of stuff. Yeah.
2:10:55
When we talk about one big news like this hits the internet, but
2:11:03
we basically stick the Christian teaching, it's called the Jesus
2:11:09
Forum 2.0, it's in transition, you'll also see it titled as the
2:11:18
Christian realm table. So Jesus Forum 2.0, or the
2:11:24
Christian realm table. We're definitely on every
2:11:28
Friday, and it looks like we're going to be on Friday and
2:11:35
Saturdays. Yes back-to-back.
2:11:38
We're working that out now. And of course we put out a
2:11:42
variety of pre-recorded Christian teaching videos.
2:11:50
So That be a Pastor, Chuck official and you went into your
2:11:58
settings you had a and set your new handle.
2:12:06
Actually, yeah, I got a change Father Charles the reason that
2:12:12
is some Protestants, they don't like the father title and I am a
2:12:18
pastor of a church. So, Pastor Chuck seems to be
2:12:23
more accepted than Father Charles or father Chuck, you
2:12:27
know. So yes.
2:12:29
I'm glad you pointed that out. I need two for one on one guy
2:12:33
shows. I need to change the Father.
2:12:35
Charles to Pastor Chuck. Well he, thank you for pointing
2:12:41
that out. Just would like you to have a
2:12:43
easy handle where whenever I'm promoting your channel, I can
2:12:46
say at, you know, youtube.com slash at Pastor Chuck.
2:12:51
It'll make it a lot easier to. Yeah, the handle is changed on
2:12:55
the channel. Brad.
2:12:56
Yeah. If they you can reach me.
2:12:58
It is changed their. I'm talking about just the name
2:13:02
itself. I need to change in the settings
2:13:06
from Father, Charles to Pastor Chuck.
2:13:10
So So I could reach me or? Yeah, at Pastor Chuck official,
2:13:19
dived YouTube. I'll say this to folks out there
2:13:24
who are listening in or maybe new in the future, who hear
2:13:27
this. Originally, at least for me, I
2:13:32
actually used to respect them admire Kent.
2:13:35
I did not know all this stuff was going on in his life.
2:13:37
I didn't know that people are getting conned and there was all
2:13:41
this abuse. Zeus and people being done all
2:13:43
like this, that is why I am in. After looking at things like
2:13:47
this article here and all these, these just terrible horror
2:13:51
stories, why I'm come to the conclusion that I have learned
2:13:54
things back then. During the last two years, it
2:13:57
was difficult because we were going from people to people that
2:14:00
I did not know and I didn't want to be someone just making videos
2:14:04
based upon opinions or you know this person said this kind of
2:14:08
thing because that wasn't the flu but now it's solid.
2:14:11
Everybody knows this is real people know, folks have been
2:14:14
charged, people have been going to court and they're still court
2:14:17
dates to come. So now we all know, we all know
2:14:21
the facts so that's that. And I would just like that.
2:14:26
And this is I'll be quite correct.
2:14:31
Let this be a lesson to and I'm sure I think can't started out
2:14:39
with a good heart and wanting to spread the gospel.
2:14:44
And just to just to make it brief, he's just made some
2:14:50
really bad decisions in his life.
2:14:55
I think it sums it up there. I think he began with a his
2:15:00
heart was right and just some of these decisions he made from his
2:15:07
tax things to everything else. You people heard I'm not going
2:15:12
to go through it all again. Brett's been very thorough and
2:15:15
many other people marks. Tony tons of people are Robert
2:15:20
Beattie. They've been very thorough and
2:15:25
comes down to bad decisions in life, folks, but I do say this
2:15:30
with a clear conscience. I think he did start with the
2:15:34
right heart, but Through bad decisions and other things here
2:15:41
we are today. So that's all I have to say for
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the night. And I do pray for Kent hovind
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and his family. I do, he needs prayer.
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So there's some people out there saying, bright, why don't you
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open up the room? Why don't you open up show?
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Well, I did, if you look at the very top of the comments, a link
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was up there the whole time and I I also posted in the comments,
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it's how tto our God, and that's how Pastor Chuck got in and all
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that. So I made it available anytime
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during this any of you could have came in whether you're a
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supporter or critic or whatever, you deem yourself, as you had
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the opportunity to come in. I'm sorry that you didn't notice
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the big giant blue button that said, join this way.
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There it was. So that's that.
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Let me go ahead and And put up, put up the ending deal.
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Okay? It's nice talking to you, you
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do.