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"The golden age of Jaguars football is opening right now." | Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, March 16 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Thursday, March sixteenth. This is Jaguars Happy Hours
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  Speaker 1: and now filling in for mister Warren broadcast specialist. But
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  Speaker 1: that's unexpectacle bespoke, Samilya and several other reasons. His initials
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  Speaker 1: are BS Brian Sexton. Baby that fits, Joe. Um, I
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  Speaker 1: appreciate that about you. By the way, that you never missed.
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  Speaker 1: The obvious was that commercial captain. Obvious is that if
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  Speaker 1: you're commercial, everybody. Welcome to Jaguars Happy Hour. Brian Sexton
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  Speaker 1: along with Jeff Logovin on ten ten a m Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: social media channel's YouTube. This is um. This is what
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  Speaker 1: you do on Thursdays in the off season. You spend
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  Speaker 1: an hour talking football. How are you good? Good? Uh?
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  Speaker 1: And boy what a week? Yeah? I mean if there
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  Speaker 1: was a time to have an hour to talk football,
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  Speaker 1: this would be the week. Just with free agency and
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  Speaker 1: the tampering period and what now they're free to sign
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  Speaker 1: them right now? Right? Yes they are? And why do
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  Speaker 1: you think with JP said, can you do a week
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  Speaker 1: for me? I said, I'll take this week. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's easy. Although you know, Jeff, for the first time
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  Speaker 1: in gosh a decade, there's not a lot to talk
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  Speaker 1: about with the Jaguars. I mean, this has become a day,
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  Speaker 1: but dag Wars fans have gotten used to. I was
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  Speaker 1: trying to actually walking in talking to James at the
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  Speaker 1: front desk a little bit and he's like, boy, he goes,
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  Speaker 1: it's really quiet around here, isn't it. I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And we were trying to think of the last time
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  Speaker 1: that it's been this quiet at the start of free
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  Speaker 1: agency for this franchise, right, And Brian, you're like ray
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  Speaker 1: Man when it comes to years, and then the one
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  Speaker 1: year that kind of maybe pops out a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of my mind is twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen. Maybe, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen they didn't yeah, because they were kind
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  Speaker 1: of set, and they were set. They had drafted Leonard Frenat.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they added a few guys here and there,
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  Speaker 1: but nothing, nothing, nothing frontline top of the list free agency, right, Well,
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  Speaker 1: because kind of like like last year they spent one
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  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy five million bucks and the year before,
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  Speaker 1: remember they spend all that money on Kleis and they
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  Speaker 1: spend all the money on a j boy and they
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  Speaker 1: brought them all in. So it's kind of the same
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  Speaker 1: thing eighteen stands out as a year that they were
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  Speaker 1: kind of quiet. But I don't know this and this
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  Speaker 1: is where it is now, right, I mean they have
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  Speaker 1: no Cabro, none they right now? What do they have now? Five?
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  Speaker 1: I think I've seen like six and a half five
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  Speaker 1: or six, and then they need to get to somewhere
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  Speaker 1: around seven as well. I mean just as far as
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  Speaker 1: just for a draft class D class seven eight seven eight.
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  Speaker 1: And then you want a cushion, right, well, you want
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  Speaker 1: to have a little bit of cushion for injury, and
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  Speaker 1: then you want to be able to do something practice
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  Speaker 1: in free agency. And I'm not talking about when I
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  Speaker 1: say something, I'm not talking about frontline guys getting fifteen
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  Speaker 1: million a year, right We're talking about okay, and not
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  Speaker 1: even bargain basement necessarily, but guys that are veteran players
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  Speaker 1: that are willing to come here because they want to
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  Speaker 1: have a chance of a Super Bowl, a chance to
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  Speaker 1: win Okay, with an established coach, an established quarterback. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to say that this can become Baltimore South,
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  Speaker 1: but kind of along those lines, because Baltimore was so
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  Speaker 1: good at that for so many years of bringing in
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  Speaker 1: guys towards the end of their career on very marginal deals,
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  Speaker 1: fair deals to be able to get them come in
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  Speaker 1: and contribute, I have to think, And you're the perfect
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  Speaker 1: person because you started with free agency as it as
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  Speaker 1: it was making its way up. You're one of the
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  Speaker 1: first big free agents here, jacksonvilligist In overall, a guy
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  Speaker 1: like Trevor Lawrence is going to track people, a guy
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  Speaker 1: like all day long, a guy like Doug Peterson with
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  Speaker 1: the offense that they've got set up. What offensive player
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't want to play here? Well into reputation, right, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Doug's way of culture, in the building, the new facility
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  Speaker 1: that's under construction. I mean, all these things matter, just
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  Speaker 1: like it does in recruiting with the collegiate level, because
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  Speaker 1: that's where you're essentially taken down to right now, because
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  Speaker 1: you're not competing with money. Okay you're not. You're not
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  Speaker 1: you're not in that category right now. No, Okay, you're
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  Speaker 1: not competing with money. So you're trying to compete for
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  Speaker 1: those guys that are lower level players. Well, there's more
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  Speaker 1: competition I think for those type of players because the
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  Speaker 1: money is fair, right, more teams can buy for their services.
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  Speaker 1: So now, what's going to separate you apart from the rest? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: one is you got a quarterback, you're winning, You got
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  Speaker 1: a good coach, you got a good culture. Oh and
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  Speaker 1: by the way, we have a hell of a facility
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  Speaker 1: that's under construction that's going to be opened this year
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  Speaker 1: in sunny Florida, tax free, stay with an owner who
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  Speaker 1: is willing and committed to do things, and the big things. Right,
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  Speaker 1: you find a nice airplane. You know. It's funny because
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  Speaker 1: we both go back to the early days at this franchise.
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  Speaker 1: We always talked about there would come a day where
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  Speaker 1: the league would see Jacksonville as a very desirable place,
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  Speaker 1: and there were moments where it was sprinkled in. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm here to tell you the golden age of Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: football is opening right now. And I have to believe
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  Speaker 1: that free agents will look at the Jaguars and say
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  Speaker 1: to their agent, Hey, is there any way you can
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  Speaker 1: get me there? I just see that. It's amazing what
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  Speaker 1: the transition the organization has undergone from a couple of
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  Speaker 1: years ago to now. And all you had to do
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  Speaker 1: was suffer through a one and fifteen season, and it
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  Speaker 1: was a suffering. It was a suffering, but you knew
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  Speaker 1: what it was. It was two years of suffering. I agree,
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  Speaker 1: But the bad year and then another bad year and
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  Speaker 1: then just that for a while there, you felt like
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  Speaker 1: that there was no way out. If you were a
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  Speaker 1: Jets fan right now, and I know you're not, although
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  Speaker 1: you're tied to the organization. You just gonna scratch your
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  Speaker 1: head with all this Aaron Rodger stuff and Zach Wilson
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  Speaker 1: and they could have had Trevor Lawrence. But we'll leave
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  Speaker 1: that for another block. So hold that thought. Let's get
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  Speaker 1: started with the Jaguars. Since legal tampering opened Juwan Taylor
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  Speaker 1: to Kansas City. So from your perspective, how did the
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars adjust their offensive line? That it's a great question.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, congratulations to Juan one of the great
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  Speaker 1: excellent year as a person who's ever been here, his
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  Speaker 1: best year. He was. His past protection was fantastic, and
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  Speaker 1: I said this before. He still has to be better
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  Speaker 1: in the run game and finished place more consistently, but
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  Speaker 1: his pass protection, and he needs to give Paul Rauscher
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  Speaker 1: a cut of that big contract because Rauscher, the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line coach, did a tremendous job of changing the way
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  Speaker 1: that Juan played the game. And had a conversation with
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  Speaker 1: Juan about it this year, and he said, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it was all about the angles for him, and that
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  Speaker 1: with Phil Rauscher, the new offensive line coach they have
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  Speaker 1: under Doug Peterson, the angles that he taught made sense
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  Speaker 1: to him and took him back to what made him
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  Speaker 1: a very good college player, whereas before under the previous
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  Speaker 1: coaching staff, the angles were a little bit steeper, which
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  Speaker 1: was not conducive to his success. And so he got
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  Speaker 1: a great contract out of which I knew he would.
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  Speaker 1: I figured he'd get somewhere around the eighteen million a
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  Speaker 1: year range, and he ended up surpassing and and then
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  Speaker 1: the twenty range. Now and he's going to be protecting
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  Speaker 1: arguably the best quarterback in the league and going to
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  Speaker 1: the Super Bowl champion Kansiity Chiefs. But from the blindside
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  Speaker 1: because the word in Kansas City and I talked to
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  Speaker 1: people there, they've lost both their tackles because Orlando Brown
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  Speaker 1: Junior signed with the Bengals and they traded one away
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  Speaker 1: to the Commanders left he was free agent free agent
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  Speaker 1: and he's a good player too, by the way, right
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  Speaker 1: because and the question is is will he play left
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  Speaker 1: or will he play right? For Kansas City which doesn't
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  Speaker 1: really affect the Jaguars, but just from a personal interest
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  Speaker 1: Stan because I love the guy. Yeah, we liked Juwan
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  Speaker 1: and I think he's better suited to play left if
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  Speaker 1: he can translate the skills that he had it right
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  Speaker 1: to left. But not all guys can do that well.
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  Speaker 1: And he's been coached by Andy Heck, who you know well,
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  Speaker 1: excellent coach, excellent coach and arguably the best offensive line
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  Speaker 1: coach in the NFL today because of what he's been
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  Speaker 1: able to do. I mean remember Ken City rebuilt that
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  Speaker 1: offensive line in no time and did it on a
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  Speaker 1: lot of blind faith. And Andy was the one who
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  Speaker 1: shaped that offensive line. And the reason I say that
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  Speaker 1: he may might be better suited the left is because
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  Speaker 1: of the reason that I talked about there and that
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  Speaker 1: he was so strong and pass protection, but yet to
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  Speaker 1: run game. He left a little to be desired because
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  Speaker 1: he didn't finish. He wasn't moving people off the line
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  Speaker 1: of scrimmage, and so that kind of circles back. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: now he's in Kansas City and whether he's left or
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  Speaker 1: right doesn't it's going to be interesting to see if
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  Speaker 1: if he ends up on being on the right side,
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  Speaker 1: he's the highest paid right tackle in football. If he
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  Speaker 1: ends up being on left side for kans City, he's
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  Speaker 1: a top five paid guy, good League. Either way he went,
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  Speaker 1: he's making a ton of money. Okay, good for him.
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  Speaker 1: So what does Rauscher do here? What do they do?
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  Speaker 1: You know, you've got Walker Little and I'd love to
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  Speaker 1: hear your thoughts on his time in the starting lineup
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  Speaker 1: at the end of last year and Cam Robinson and
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  Speaker 1: who belongs where, because that's a conversation among Jaguars fans
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  Speaker 1: now when the great thing about this situation, You're not
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  Speaker 1: looking at it from this aspect now, but next year
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna get a compensatory pick because of Juan Taylor's departs,
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  Speaker 1: probably a third round pick. So it's gonna be pretty
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  Speaker 1: high just because of the Contractum, where do you Where
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  Speaker 1: do you go from here? Cam Robinson played left, Walker
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  Speaker 1: Little played left walker. Little was in a battle at
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  Speaker 1: right with Juwan and training camp last year. I've always
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  Speaker 1: said this, I think that Cam Robinson is naturally suited
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  Speaker 1: to the right side. Big strong, mean finishes, great run blocker. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: isn't that what right tackles do okay, Walker little okay,
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  Speaker 1: very good feet, long, armed athletic made tremendous progress this
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  Speaker 1: past year, and that's to be expected for a guy
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  Speaker 1: that didn't play a lot of snaps of football for
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  Speaker 1: a number of years. So I look, I love the
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  Speaker 1: possibilities that exist here. I think they can go either way.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think either way is going to be a negative.
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  Speaker 1: But you want to make sure that the players that
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  Speaker 1: are involved are happy, because if players aren't happy and
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  Speaker 1: what they're doing, then you know, I mean, well, that's
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  Speaker 1: where Doug comes in. Right. Well, that's the beauty of
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  Speaker 1: having a guy like Doug Peterson. Doug Peterson can go
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  Speaker 1: and talk to a player and say, hey, look, you
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  Speaker 1: know we really need you here, and a player will
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  Speaker 1: go okay, Doug. Yeah. Now where's a lot of head
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  Speaker 1: coaches to go to a player and ask them to
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  Speaker 1: do that and like, I'm not doing that, you know
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  Speaker 1: because my next contract, Well, Juan was that guy. Juan
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  Speaker 1: did not He wented nothing to do with playing anything
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  Speaker 1: but right tackle. If you recall, well, so look, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen. I think it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be an interesting decision. What they do. Cam Robinson's
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  Speaker 1: got a lot more time in at left tackle. Walker
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  Speaker 1: Little's kind of the new guy on the block. What
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  Speaker 1: the what's the best long term solution? I think that's
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  Speaker 1: the way you have to look at it. When I
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  Speaker 1: say long term, it's not how good the lineup is
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  Speaker 1: going to be in week one or week two, or
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  Speaker 1: week three or week four. It's where are you at
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  Speaker 1: in week fifteen, sixteen, seventeen eighteen going into the playoffs.
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  Speaker 1: Is that gonna be your best lineup with one guy
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  Speaker 1: on the left, the other guy on the right, or
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  Speaker 1: vice versa. I don't know the answer to that. That's
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  Speaker 1: what they're gonna get paid to do this year, to
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  Speaker 1: make those tough decisions. Let's stay on that side of
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  Speaker 1: the ball. With eight, a much lower key loss, but
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  Speaker 1: still a loss. And Chris mannhards who signed big lonver Broncos.
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  Speaker 1: So here's my question and you answered it with big loss.
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  Speaker 1: How does Doug react? Do they go looking for a
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  Speaker 1: tight end who's got that sort of skill set? Is
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  Speaker 1: that Darnell Washington to Georgia perhaps to the Philby who
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  Speaker 1: followed college ball because about the big dude. When Marcedes
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  Speaker 1: Lewis was here, when Kyle Brady was here, when Chris
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  Speaker 1: man Hurts was here, you knew what those guys did well,
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  Speaker 1: and it really added to both pass blocking and run blocking.
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  Speaker 1: It's valuable. Doesn't want that. I think we've kind of
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  Speaker 1: maybe taken it for granted a little bit in Jackson
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  Speaker 1: Bill that we've had three of the best blocking tight
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  Speaker 1: ends in the league, with three different guys and in
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  Speaker 1: different time frames. Marcedes I think was the best in
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  Speaker 1: the league by far. I think man Hurts was top
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  Speaker 1: three in the league in the last couple of years.
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  Speaker 1: And then Kyle Brady was a man among boys for
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  Speaker 1: quite a few years here. And man Hurts is a
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  Speaker 1: guy that I figured that there would be many people
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  Speaker 1: vying for his services because he's a very talented tight end.
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  Speaker 1: He's also a decent receiving option, even only oh called
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  Speaker 1: six balls okay. You know, Look, he can't catch balls
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  Speaker 1: unless somebody throws him to okay, and he can catch
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  Speaker 1: him if he gets the ball thrown his way. But
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  Speaker 1: his special and his power and his strength as a
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  Speaker 1: player is blocking. And look, Sean Payton saw it and
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  Speaker 1: knows the value of that and scooped him up with
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  Speaker 1: this system. Does Doug need that guy, Well, well, you'd
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  Speaker 1: always like to have that guy and I and look
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  Speaker 1: you've got you've got a young guy on your roster
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  Speaker 1: that uh, that is kind of one of those tight
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  Speaker 1: ends that can do a little bit of both the
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  Speaker 1: draft pick from a couple of years years ago, higher
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  Speaker 1: state and you're gonna hit me with it, I know,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna draw a blank here, But you also
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  Speaker 1: can find a way to accomplish that in the draft.
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  Speaker 1: But then there's also other ways that you extra offensive
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  Speaker 1: lineman on the field. Okay, instead of playing a tight
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  Speaker 1: end like Chris Manherts. I mean, what is any essentially
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  Speaker 1: an offensive line? He was? Why? Yeah, okay, so if
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  Speaker 1: you find a good backup guard or tackle, you play
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  Speaker 1: six offensive linemen in a situation like that, because the
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  Speaker 1: reality is opponents didn't think that Chris man Hurts was
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  Speaker 1: going to get vertical for a twenty five yard seam route. Hey. Look,
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  Speaker 1: it also just happens that this is a really good
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  Speaker 1: draft for tight ends. There. It's Luke Farrel right, Farrell,
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  Speaker 1: It's it's a deep draft. I knew you were gonna
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  Speaker 1: go there. I'm like, oh, please don't say that. We
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  Speaker 1: hardly saw Luke Farrell on the field, but he's a
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  Speaker 1: big enough guy that you could probably get got the
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  Speaker 1: size he's got and Kennedy developed. I think he's a
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  Speaker 1: He's one of those guys that can do a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of both. I'd be stunned though, if they don't
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  Speaker 1: find a tight end in this draft, because it's a
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  Speaker 1: pretty deep draft, maybe they end up going with a
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  Speaker 1: receiving Titan. What's the status of Dan Arnold. He's he
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  Speaker 1: is right now an unrestricted free agent. He's one of
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  Speaker 1: those guys who's out, you know, and and they don't
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  Speaker 1: have the money to be able to go play in
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  Speaker 1: those veteran players, they've got to replace them. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: that's That's why if you're going to be a consistent
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  Speaker 1: winner in the National Football League, the draft is the
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  Speaker 1: lifeblood of your franchise because you can overcome what we're
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  Speaker 1: talking about here, right, Okay, the loss of Juan Taylor,
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  Speaker 1: the loss of Chris Manherts, the loss of whoever. That's
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  Speaker 1: why you need to draft well, draft and developed one
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  Speaker 1: more before we take a break. And that's arden Key
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  Speaker 1: And I know you've got some distinct thoughts. So I
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  Speaker 1: figured he was going to be a player in free
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  Speaker 1: agency because he's got passability, pass rushability, and you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: get paid. And it helps when you have a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of familiarity with somebody, right, Okay, and ran Carthon,
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  Speaker 1: who's the new general manager of the Tennessee Titans, was
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  Speaker 1: with the forty nine ers under under their personnel department,
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  Speaker 1: and that's where obviously where he was at. He's John Lynch,
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  Speaker 1: and so the familiarity there arden Key, Okay, ran Carthon
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  Speaker 1: knows Art and Key Art, and Key knows ran Carthon.
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  Speaker 1: And that's uh. You look at the productivity that ran
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  Speaker 1: Carthon had, excuse me that arden Key had this past
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  Speaker 1: year with the limited number of snaps that he had,
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  Speaker 1: and if look, if you do the math, his numbers
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  Speaker 1: would actually say that he might be the most productive
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  Speaker 1: defensive end that the Jaguars had last year. And he
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  Speaker 1: was also doing some of that work from the defensive
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  Speaker 1: tackle spot. So a guy that has positional flexibility with
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  Speaker 1: the ability to be productive is going to make him
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  Speaker 1: in high demand. And I knew that he was going
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  Speaker 1: to be a guy that they wanted to keep, but
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  Speaker 1: I knew it would be hard to keep. Is there
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  Speaker 1: anyone on the roster Caleb and Chase who can step
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  Speaker 1: in and give them what he did. Look, I hope
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  Speaker 1: Caleban can step up. He hasn't shown that yet. I
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  Speaker 1: think he's giving you high energy snaps and productive snaps.
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  Speaker 1: He's been a willing contributor on special teams. You know.
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  Speaker 1: I think the one thing that you got to do
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  Speaker 1: with Caleb and Chase and you gotta stop looking at
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  Speaker 1: him like he's a first round pick. I mean, just
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  Speaker 1: put that out of your mind and say, can he
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  Speaker 1: help us win games? Can he help us from a
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  Speaker 1: depth standpoint, we ask the question, and I believe the
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  Speaker 1: answer to that is yes. Then you can look at
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: him wow. But I mean he has all the tools,
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: but that's not enough. You have to bring in people
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: to compete for that spot. And is that again, a
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: lower priced veteran player justin Houston? Oh yeah, Kleis Campbell.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: Could he come back? I mean maybe guys like that
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: that are they're not going to command a ton of money.
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: Once you find a way to extend Evan Ingram, you
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: free up some cap space, You extend whoever else is
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: on your roster that you need to to create a
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: little bit of room to bring in guys on one
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: year deals, right, two year deals to be able to
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: spread the money out a little bit more to get
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: some production, and you pay him for a specific thing
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: and you ask him to do that. Yeah, I mean
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: role players like Calais might want to be here with
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: the question. That's what Baltimore has done an excellent job of.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: And the thing about Baltimore is is that when you
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: do that and then you lose them the next year,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: what do you get? Compensatory picks? Yeah, okay, that's where
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Baltimore has become a master manipulator at the compensatory picks system.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: And if they do what you suggested, which is draft
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: and developed, right, you can't keep everybody, as we just
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: found out what Juwan Taylor, then you can start playing
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: in that game too. One real quick thought before we leave,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Andrew wingered re up got a three year deal. Congratulations
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: to him, by the way, he's a guy we've been thinking.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: You know, as you fit on the roster, you're trying
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: to replace. If you've got him starting at safety, you're
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: trying to replace him every year because he isn't in
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: every down safety. But against Baltimore and against Dallas and
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: against the Chargers, he made key plays in the fourth
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: quarter in a specific role. Jeff that they didn't want
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: to go without. Well, I I give Dewey a lot
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: of credit. He's really he's really developed himself through multiple
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: regimes here, okay, which is not easy to do. He's
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: been I don't want to say satisfied with the role,
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: but he's never been a disgruntled player because you know
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: he's a starter and then he's not. But the reality
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: is is that he is a core for special teamer.
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: He is a captain level player on special teams. But
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: he's more than that. Yeah, he can be what I
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: consider your third safety without question, and that if he
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: has to start, you feel really good about it. Number one.
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: Number two, this team has a corner problem. Okay, when
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I say a corner problem, where are they going to
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: get a corner from? Okay, we saw it last year
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: that cornerback was an issue for this football team. So
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: now you need to find a way to get corners. Well,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: what did you do last year when you didn't have
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: corners to play? You put Dewey in and played him
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: at dime, which is essentially what a corner would be
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: asked to do. In certain games and you had him
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: playing in that role. So you bring a guy that
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: can contribute a little bit in that role who is
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: a starting caliber safety. Is your best to safety? Probably not, okay,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: but he's right there. And then he's going to give
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: you a captain level of lead leadership with your football team,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: with your special teams. I mean, to me, it made
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: perfect sense to bring a guy like that. And we're
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: talking about what three years, a little over nine million.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: You don't want to let that go. And look, I
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: know that the money today is crazy, but I mean
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: in today's level, that's that's that's a good price value,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: that's value. All right, let's take a break. Hey, By
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• 19:44
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• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Jeff log I'm in here on the night before St.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Patrick's Day, which used to mean a lot to me.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Now I thought you were gonna say it was Saint
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Patrick's Dale. Check. No, no, don't any green. You know,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: when you're younger, it's they It's like Saint Patrick's Day Eve.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: Right when you go get ready for Saint Patrick's Day,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: you're our age. I think, yeah, it's tomorrow, right. Yeah.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: If you if you're celebrating Saint Patrick's Eve, you're you're
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: a pretty hardcore I am irish. But we'll leave that
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: one alone for now. Hey, let's talk about the South.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: So we'll start with the Colts. And by the way,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the underlying storyline for every team in this division other
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: than the Jaguars is who's the quarterback? Exactly right? So
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Shane Steiken steps in. And by the way, the word
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: today on the street is that the offensive coordinator from
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Philadelphia last year might be interested in bringing one Gardner
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Minshow to Indianapolis with him. Okay, so, but but look,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: they're starting over a quarterback. I think I read that
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: since um Andrew luck up and retired in fifteen, they've
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: had a different starting quarterback every year, whether it was
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissette or Philip Rivers or uh, why can't I
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: think of his name, Carson Wentz and then this year
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: Matt Ryan. I mean, they a franchise, it was so
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: stable at quarters even, Yeah, they're so stable, and now
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're finding out how the other
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: half lives. And by the way, Green Bay might be
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: figuring that out too, but that's for another conversation. Yeah. Um, so, well,
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: i'd look for that this team, and the Jaguars is
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: sitting perfectly right. I mean, we were always on the
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: outside looking in and all these other franchises that had
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: a great quarterback situation, and now we're sitting here going
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: we're good. Yeah, And all the other teams in the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: division right now are going to be scrambling to find
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: out who's going to be their starter? I mean literally,
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: can you guarantee me that any starter with any of
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the teams in the division right now? No? No, And
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: you see what they're doing now here in Philadelpharmfield with
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Shane Steken who came from Philly to India. They've done
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: nothing in free agency. They traded Stefan Gilmore to them.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: They cut Matt Ryan officially, they cut Matt Ryan. That's
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: act in the last and then they they lost Bobby o'kirikey,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: who I thought was a pretty good player the line
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: to the Giants player by the way, I thought it
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: was a pretty really good You saw pressure from him
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: when you see him going out of the division. But
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: I mean they resigned Ashton Duelan gay E, j Speed, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I mean this this is a total wash. Guys. So, okay,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: is their offensive line still good? I mean, a couple
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: of years ago we thought they were the best in football,
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: and now they Ryan Kelly apparently is on the trading
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: block up there. Now they're starting center. Well, he's been
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: hurt a lot, and he's been a little bit inconsistent,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: and they know they can can Eric Uh, the guy
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: that signed from Kansas City Fisher Fisher He's gone. He's gone.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: So they got issues a yeah, but they've got a
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: left guard who many people thought was the best guard
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: in football and the last couple of years would be
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: John Hannah. His level of play has not been there.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't even put him in the top five in
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: the league. I might have a hard time. I might
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: have a hard time putting him in the top ten.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: And that was a guy who was I mean Prayers,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: two time first team All Pro and his first Nelson
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: was like the man among boys for the first couple
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: of years in the league and then he got this
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: big contract. I don't know if he hasn't been healthy,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: but anyway, Yeah, there's a lot of questions with their
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: offensive line. And when you don't have a quarterback, okay,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: makes your offensive line even worse. Okay, when you have
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: a great quarterback like Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, that
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: makes your offensive line even better. Well, now you've got
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: to try to support the quarterback position because it's not
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: at a high level. They're in a quandary. Yeah, Texans
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: are in the same boat. They don't have a great
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: offensive line, but they've got a couple of pieces that
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: are pretty good. Okay, those two tackles. Okay, one guy's
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: the tackle slash guard, and they've got one of the
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: best pass protecting left tackles in the game, and they
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: can fill in any other pieces. I mean, so the
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Texans got a chance. But the question still remains for
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: them too. Who's their quarterback? And they just signed what
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: was his name, the quarterback that they case Keenum, Case Keenum. Yeah, okay,
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: well they just brought in case Keenum and at the
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: quarterback that they drafted a couple of years ago. So
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden wayman, are you given up on
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: him to even be a backup because you know they're
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: going to draft a quarterback at the number two overall. Hey,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: let's go back to Colts real quick. You know they
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: had some talent on defense um DeForrest Buckner. By the way,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Gus Bradley's back, he's back in Indiana. Yeah, he's the
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: defensive coordinator again working with I mean, Quitty pay looks
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: like a guy who could be special, but he hasn't
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: been yet. DeForrest Buckner, I think he's a warrior. I
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: mean he played hurt last year. Player long strong impacts
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: the game on all levels. Got a great metal linebacker
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: if he can get healthy. And he changed his name.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: It was Darius it was now yes, it's Shaquille Leonard.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Thank you. I got it right, Yep, congratulations, got it right.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: But they got a couple of good players, and in
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: the back end they're pretty pretty good. I mean, they've
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: got some talent on defense. Justin Houston as a free
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: agent though, who was a good player for them, even
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: though he was into something. But he's a guy that
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: was given him eight nine sacks or something in that range.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, So here's the interesting part for
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Indie and then we'll move on to Tennessee. You know, um,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Jim Rsey it he's never had to meddle because he
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: had Bill Pollian, and Pollian wouldn't let him meddle. And
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: the quarterback any success, he could be the owner and
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: sit in the owner's box. It was no problem when
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: you had Peyton Manning and even the first couple of
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: years with Andrew Luck because they were winning. He could
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: be quiet. Well, now they're not winning, and now he's meddling, right,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: He's he's he's getting involved and he's saying things on
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: video standing on the on the on the stairs to
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: his plane and get a little quirky and all of
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: a sudden, a franchise getting a little okay, let's trying
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: to be fine. You get my point. That was a
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: franchise that looked rock solid and all of a sudden
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: they look shaky. Yeah, he's things can change in the heartbeat.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: He's different. Yes, I love him for the fact that
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: the whole Daniel Snyder thing. Yeah, that Jim Rsay was
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: very honest. He's an upfront with that situation that is
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: facing the league. But quirky would be an understatement the
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: whole Jeff Saturday thing that happened this past year and then.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: But I think he would have hired him to be
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the head coach if it wasn't for the public outcry.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Did he spend like four million dollars in buy Elton
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: John's piano. I mean he's yeah, he's does wacky stuff. Well,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: he's a huge fan of rock and roll history, and
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: so I think he sings too, by the way, willing
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: to spend money when it comes to rock and roll
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: artifacts or rock and roll He's got like a museum.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah stuff. It's just that that was a franchise that
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: people looked at that it was bedrock, like the Steelers
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: or the Giants, you know, the Packers old school, and
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I think without the quarterback there to stabilize them, it
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: looks shaky. But that's just the reality is is that
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: that stadium was built by Peyton Man. You bet it was.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: They've got to spend a bunch of money trying to
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: renovate it with who with who? Who's the quarterball? All right,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: let's move to the Titans new general manager Ran Carthon
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: with Mike Rabel, who's one of my favorite coaches. But
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I think he's just the performance of that team put
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: on here the season, the final Sunday of the season
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: with that back Joshua Dobbs who had been on the
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: roster for two weeks. All you need to about how
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: good a coach he is. So Ran Carthon comes on.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: What's the conversation like for them about the quarterback? Can
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: Ryan Tannehill resurrect his career yet again or is it
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: time to move on? Well, the conversation probably goes like this, Okay, look,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: we're going to support our guy Tanny Hill until we
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: can find somebody that's better. Because right now, he's our
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: best option. But don't you need Derrick Henry running the
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: ball well for Ryan tanney Hill to be Ryan Tannehill. Oh? Absolutely?
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: They drafted what what what? What rownd pick did they
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: spend on their quarterback last year? It was a third Okay,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: so bad to the point that you don't even start
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: him in the last game of the season. You bring
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: a guy and Joshua Dobbs hadn't been with the football team,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: but for a couple of weeks was on the Lions.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Pret bad. Yeah, that's I mean that if you're wondering
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: about the possibility to him in his future, I mean
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: just just go to that. Yeah. Now again, back to Tannihill.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: You're gonna stay with him as long as you have
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: to because right now he's their best option. He's a
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: he's a legitimate mid level quarterback in the league, and
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: when he has Derek Henry, he might be If you
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: had to rank him, he might fall somewhere in the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: range of fifteen. Yeah, I mean he was paid if
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: he's playing well, and that's and that's okay. Can you
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: five million dollars year? Guy? Can you win with that? Yeah?
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: You can win with that? If you've got a good
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: enough roster. But that's the reason why John Robinson's not
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: the general manager anymore well now, because they don't have
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: good enough roster around Derrick Henry and the rest of
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: the football drafted that quarterback, and I think that is
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: maybe what tilted that over the Well wait, Manute, it's
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: not just a quarterback that kind of a fello. I
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: think about the offensive line that they had a couple
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: of years ago when they had Taylor Lawan at left.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: They had the first round pick at right tackle. That's
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: now with Cleveland, the kids from Michigan State. Yes, good
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: football player, two good guards okay, Ben Jones the center
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: which Ben Jones just got the boot. It was playing
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: pretty good football for the for the Tennessee Titans had
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: a good offensive line, really good offensive line, great running back,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: mid tier quarterback Okay, an explosive guy on the outside,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: and a J. Brown. And they played a style Jeff,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: that they knew how to play. They played it better
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: than anyone else. Yeah, played good stout defense, be tough
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: as nails. Yeah. And then what happened to the roster.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: The offensive line went downhill. You had multiple draft picks,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: a tackle that turned out to be crapped. Yeah, okay,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: they fell off the black. I mean they had two
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: they had the worst two starting tackles in the league
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: last year period, the worst, the worst tandem. And they're
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: three years removed from having one of the best. And
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: but you had Derrick Henry. Yeah, Derrick Henry altogether, he
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: should have gotten a big bonus at the end of
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: that year. They carrying him because he carried him. Well,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: he's carried him. Can you have a chance to win
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: here out here? And damn near got it with Derrick Henry.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: You know, there was some talk that he might be
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: on the trading block or might be a guy that
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: they move on from because he does for all the
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: greatness that he brings to the table, and he is great,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: he is limited at this point in his career and
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: how he can help you. Here's why you consider trading
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: a Derrick Henry. You don't if you want to win.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: But if you want to win, yeah, when like when
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: to have a chance to compete for a Super Bowl.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: He's not gonna get you there. Okay, He's a running
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: back to starting to get to a point where running
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: backs don't typically have great years after this specially with
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: that style of play he runs Campbell. And so if
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: you're a franchise that's trying to have a reset and
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: start a little bit over again with a new general
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: manager and a really good coach, why wouldn't you try
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: to get as much as you could for a back
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: right now? Why you can because if all of a sudden,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Derek goes out there this year and puts up a
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette type of year, which is significantly lower than
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: where he was been thousand yards, Yeah, what would you
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: get for Derrick Henry then? Yeah? Nothing? I mean, And
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: are you gonna win a super Bowl with Derrick Henry though?
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: This year? Next year, year after that. That's why I'm
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: saying no move on their Their style of play, get
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: it so predictable if you got a lead on them
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: at all. They were not built to come from behind.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: But he's a man. Oh man, he's so much fun
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: to watch. I love watching him play. Other teams, Yeah,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: this team not so much. So. They've released Bud Dupree,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Ben Jones, Taylor, the one, they lost linebacker David Long
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: to Miami Um. They've signed Andre Dillard and a bunch
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: of former forty nine ers that ran Carthon knew, including
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Ard and Key. Well, you're trying to change the culture,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: so you bring it in guys that you trust. Yeah,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: and that's kind of part of that. And so it
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: sounds to me like they're on that verge. I mean,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: the large was a guy that couldn't even get a
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: starting role in Philadelphia with their two tackles. Stay health,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: stay healthy. So but but here's the thing. I was
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: shocked that Tennessee didn't make could a plane. Maybe they
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: did for Juan Taylor. I thought, yeah, that would be
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: right up their alley. They need a tackle. Maybe they did.
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you're Juan Kansas City or Tennessee.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, see it hands down, Patrick Mahomes, Ryan Tanney Hill, Yeah, Um,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: who else do they have? Give me a minute, think
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: about that twenty million? Yeah, let's go, Yeah, let's go.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: It looks to me like this is a let's see
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: what we can do. We'll blow it up after twenty
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: twenty three. If it doesn't go the way we want
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: it to, you're gonna have to anyway. They might. They
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: might blow it up now right if if you trade
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry right now, which there was a whisper right.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know if there's any anything substant upon. Maybe
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: around the draft someone well, I mean blow it up now,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: I mean why Yeah, Well, maybe that's what they're doing
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: with all the guys they've released. They let Robert Woods go,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: not that he was a great player, but he was
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: one of their more um more redependable wide receivers. Yeah.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: But again, if you don't have the productivity of your
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: offensive line where your quarterback and have a little bit
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: of time to throw the football, it looks like a rebuild.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: You got no chance. I mean, your quarterback doesn't have
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: a chance. Ryan Tanner Hill has got to get better
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: if the offensive line can get better. Because if if
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: that offensive line stays the way it had been, I
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: don't care who you are, Derek Henrick Hill still get
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: his yards because he's Derek Derek. He just needs to
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: see him. But you got me for the quarterback, know
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: aj Brown John Robins, they traded him. I thought the
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: reaction of Mike Rabel in the draft room when that
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: happened said it all. And then you see walked out
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: of the road. He knew what he was dealing with.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: You think he was on board with that trade? No,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: how about the Texans. I liked Mika Ryan's the higher.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: I always thought he was a headseep player. I mean,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: I always thought he was one of us. Let's let's
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: say smart players go beyond the player. The job that
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: he was able to do in San Francisco of that defense,
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: he did a tremendous job. Now, talent wise, that might
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: be one of the most talented groups, but you still
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: have to find them the play and he did. But
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: he had great players in San Francisco, great leader as
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: a player, and uh, typically players that have leadership have
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: leadership and when when they take over as the head coach,
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: they also have a great opportunity to be a great leader.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: There logs if the three teams in this division other
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: than the Jaguars, this is the one I think that
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: has the chance to resurrect itself because they've got cap
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: room and draft picks. I would agree with you. And
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: when they got some pieces in place, But the quarterback
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: is going to be the key for them. And you
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: figure that they're going to draft the second best quarterback
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: or the one they like the most, uh at number
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: two overall? Yeah, see that this is what you said
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: right there. First of all brings up and to bring
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: up a whole discussion the second best quarterback. Yeah, tell
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: me who the best quarterback is in this draft. Well,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: at the risk of sounding stupid to someone who does
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: this for a living in the other room, I think C. J.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Stroud would be the guy I'd be most interested me.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Is there a clear cut is an? Is there a
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence? Trev Lawrence? Okay, Okay, Now let's look at
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: this list that we're gonna take a little quick advanced look,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: okay about this quarterback carousel, because we're gonna talk about
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: in the next next segment. How many of these guys,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Bicker Mayfield, h Carson Wentz, Marcus Mariota, Teddy
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Bridgewater first round pick, Yeah, okay, Drew Locke, Blaine Gabbert.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: These are all high picks that didn't turn out. And
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: these are all guys that just recently changed teams or
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: or are sitting there waiting to have a job. Okay. Funny,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: we could be talking about all of these guys that
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: during the draft class right now, Zach Wilson. A few
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: years they could be on that list. Yeah, add Zach
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: Wilson to that. In New York right, another example of
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: a guy who you take high. But Darnald was the
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: top five pick. Mayfield was the first pick in the draft.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: M Carson Wentz was the first pick in the draft.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota was the second pick in the draft. Bridgewater
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: was the end of the first round guy. Joe Flacco
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: was a mid first round pick. Blaine Gabbert was a
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: top ten pick. And you see all those guys, so well,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: hold on, well, you've got to get it right, and
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: you don't know whether you got it or not. If
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: you were if you were Denika Ryan's and you didn't
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: like any of those guys, would you just take the
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: best player you could find, whether that's at Jalen Carter
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: or Will Anderson defensive player as opposed to take a
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: quarterback that's a question mark. Or would you take a
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: quarterback because then the next year you take another one. Well,
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: if you if if you can trade out of that
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: spot for somebody who loves somebody and you don't believe
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: in somebody, you do it. Now, are there the Texans
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: fan base? Are they going to be happy that you
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: just traded away hope and change, because that's kind of
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: what it represents I mean when you draft a quarterback
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: and the top five, it represents hope and change, the
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: quarterback that they signed in free agencies, not hope and change.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: He started there. Do you remember that he was there
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: in twenty firsteen, Ryan Davis and I were having competing
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: first starting job. Yep, that's well, that's who Ryan Davis
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: sacked and intercepted to win those two games against the Texans.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: If you recall two of Gus Bradley's four wins first
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: year that I just hadn't mean by the way podcasts
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: coming from him. But you know, to answer your question, yes,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: you could consider doing that. But then the heat that
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: the seat gets hotter in Houston, not for the coach,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: but for the general manager and ownership because they still
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: have an identified starting franchise quarterback. And if you can
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: find a way though to finagle some huge draft capital,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: that would enable you because the reality is are probably
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: going to be a top ten picking team next year. Again,
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: you know, could you end up finding a way to
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: get a guy And here's the other thing, they could
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: trade out of that spot because maybe they love a
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: guy that's going to be there at seven or eight,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: or they've got a pick twelve. Also they got two.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's why their position. When Carolina made that trade,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: I was like, are you kidding me? They gave up
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: all of that for for a draft class that really
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't have anybody that everybody is a consensus this is
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: the guy. Yeah, there's nobody that could tell you this
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: is the consensus one or even two. No, that's that's
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: how crazy it is. This conversation, which we're about to
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: wrap up, just shows you how strong the Jaguars position
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: is at the top of the AFC South. Because even
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: though I really like Damiko Ryan's he's never been a
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: head coach before. Same thing with Shane Siken, you know,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: very well regarded, and what he did last year in
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Philly tells you a lot about what kind of coach
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: he is. But the quarterback position, and all three of
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: these teams two coaches without here, you've got Doug Peterson
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: and Trevor Lawrence. You've got question marks all over the place.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: This is the Jaguars division if they do it right. Yeah,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: you got you. Look, you gotta have a coach and
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: you gotta have a quarterback yep. And just the way
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: it is, I mean you go you look at the
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: great teams in NFL, the teams that win Super Bowls,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: there's been like one Hall of Fame coach has been
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: able to win Super Bowls without a Hall of Fame quarterback,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: it seems like, and that's Joe Gibbs. It didn't have
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame quarterback. No, I mean most of
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: the other guys that won Super Bowls had Hall of
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: Fame quarterback. Ran Billick did it with Trent Dilfer, but
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: he had, you know, two thousand yard rusher defense, all
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: time defense. Yes, all right, let's take a break. When
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: we come back, we'll turn the conversation to the quarterback
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: carousel around the NFL. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, and
• 39:13
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• 39:21
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• 39:29
  Speaker 1: Rolling right along here Jaguars Happy Hour, Brian Sexton in
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: this evening along with Jeff Lageman. And you're not get
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: out and speak to a lot of rotary clubs and
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: things like that in the offseason, and I open every
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: one of them with the golden age of Jaguars football
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: has just dawned, and everyone wants to hear that, right,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: And with what happened last year, it's so easy to
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: say that. However, the reason I'm saying it's because they
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: have a quarterback. And when this list of quarterbacks and
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: these teams they're desperate for quarterback. Um, thank god the
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Jaguars are not on this list. That's the reason. Doug
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: and Trevor. But Trevor, right, Doug wouldn't be here without Trevor.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: But give me a break. Look at this right, So
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: you've got um Derek cart in New Orleans. Okay, well,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: let me just say this, when when the Raiders were
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: coming here watching the games coming in that he was playing. Yeah,
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: I thought he was a bottom third quarterback in the league.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: To put the level of play in that game, if
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: he plays average, If he plays average, probably in the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: second half they win because they're up seventeen. Nothing. He
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: was so bad anyway, But he's gonna read, he's gonna
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: he's gonna resurrect things in New Orleans. Oh, him and
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: Jamis Swaston, I mean, you know their championship caliber. You've
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: always kind of been Finn did. Jamis havn't yet. Jamis
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: was very immature at Florida State and uh, and he's
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: still got a little grown up to do, all right,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: So how about this one? And I kind of like
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: this one because Jimmy Garoppa, I was going back to
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: the Patriot Way there with Josh McDaniels and Garoppo has
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: had some success, but they canna let him go in
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: San Francisco and he's still somewhat in his prime. For goodness,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: he'll play better with the Raiders by far than Derek Carr.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: I mean it won't even close. But is he the answer?
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Is he gonna get to take you to a championship? Yeah,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: he took them to a super Bowl. I find that
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: first of all the division that they're playing in. Yeah,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: it's lights out. Yeah I have I think that's a
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: hard that would be tough. But I think he'll get
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: them playing better ball. Okay, yeah, they'll make them better.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: He give Josh McDaniels a chance to show what kind
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: of coach he is, which he hasn't done. Really, Josh
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: better win with him, Yeah, I doan Josh hasn't done
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: very well so far as being a head coach. Gonna
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: hold off on Aaron Rodgers and get your thoughts on him.
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: Last n Sam Darnold to San Francisco in a backup
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: role or a backup. Maybe he's a backup. Yeah, Trey
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Lance coming back off of a severe ankle. And you've
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: got um the kid this year, Purty who had the party. Yeah.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: The elbow surgeries, well, supposedly the surgery that he had
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: was was favorable and that it wasn't as bad as
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: they thought it could be. They didn't they going into
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: the surgery. According to the specialist, you don't know how
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: severe it is until you actually get in there. Supposedly
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: the news was good from that standpoint. They're saying that
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: six months he's back full of back thrown. Okay, that
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: was probably one of the few injuries you didn't have
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: in your NFL. Right, that was I mean, that was ugly.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: I mean that's I think the owner whatever it is,
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: that Tommy Johns. That's serious stuff. Um. One more guy
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: who's really in a starting role, and that's Baker Mayfield
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: to Tampa Bay maybe first overall pick well could he
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: be the starter? Um, I don't know. I mean they
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: look Tampa is a mess. Yeah, well you knew they
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: they sold out for for the championship. Yeah, the tam
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Tampas a mess. They they are gonna be. They're three
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: years away. They're like Tennessee. Yeah, I mean they got
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: a rebuild and they don't have a quarterback, and yeah,
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: they're they're a long ways out. So let me run
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: through this list. Here. You have Andy Dalton who's still around.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: He's going to Carolina. He's back up, you know, helped
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: groom the draft pick. Yeah, Mike White to Miami. I
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: like Mike whet I think he's a good backup for
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: toa if Ta gets hurt. Then Mike White, who did
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: some good things with the Jets when he was healthy.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I think that's a good pickup for Miami. I like him.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Taylor Heineke to Atlanta. Uh, I mean Atlanta doesn't really
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: have a quarterback either. No, Atlanta is still trying to
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: figure things out. I could he come in and compete
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: with Ritter? Yeah, they're draft pick because Mariota's gone. Yeah,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I think it could. They could compete. Jared's did him
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: is going to back up Russell Wilson in Denver. Nick
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: Mullins is going to Minnesota. Yeah, and then you've got
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: this state in Minnesota, right, I think he say Okay,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, Marcus Mariota, Terry Bridgewater, Mason Rudolph, Joe Flacco,
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Drew Lock, Blaine Gabbertt, Kyle Allen, Jacoby Brict just signed
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: in Washington. Ye. Man, if you're playing on this carousel,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: if you're riding this thing, you're looking at the Bills,
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: the Chargers, the Chiefs, the Jaguars, and you're thinking, my god,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: how do I get there? I mean it's musical chairs.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Forget the carousels. Musical chairs and you you have a chair.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: And if you're the guys that you said, they're at
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: the very end. Carson Wentz, Mariota, Bridge of Water, Mason, Rudolph, Flacco,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Drew Drew Lock, Blaine Gabbert, Kyle al and Jacoby roset Hey.
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Look a backup quarterback gets gigs pretty good man. Yeah.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: And what's Blaine Gabbert made? This will be his thirteenth
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: season and he's almost at fifty million dollars in career.
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: I mean, what's wrong with that? And he has never
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: been a straight up a backup quar Chad Henny He
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: was Chat and Henny not had the best job on
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: a planet. Well he did, he retired. Yeah, apparently the
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: chiefs have asked him to come back. Well, he's got
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: two Super Bowl rings in fifty million bucks, he's got
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: fairly young kids. What's wrong with fifty five? You and
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: I are the same mindset, my friend, because we don't
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: have fifty five. The deck of Patrick Maholes, Yeah, exactly
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: an extra five millions. He played one drive all year, right,
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: and he did pretty good scoring Drew. It was the
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: thing that pretty much much win that playoff game. All right,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: we'll drive frustrates so so you would it frustrates me too.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: So you would agree that the Jaguars are in a
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: plumb position. Well they are, but they still have holes
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: to fill. Yeah, and they have work to do, and
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: so they will get to work. What did Doug say
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: at the combine? He said, do you like Trevor? We do,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: so we're gonna keep him up, right. That's a good plan.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: Good plan. I like that plan. We'll take our final break,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: We'll come back and look around the National Football League,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: get some stories with two former Jaguars who have found
• 45:40
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• 45:43
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  Speaker 1: three two thousand. Yeah, First of all, this was fine.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: It was great to sit in here with you this evening.
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: And we did this a few years. Yeah, we did
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: a long time. We did it when things weren't so
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: good and there wasn't much to talk about. I have
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: a couple of quick things I want to run by you. Miles.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Jack was released by the Steelers today. I know that
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: he couldn't practice that much when he was here in
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. The knee. That was a problem when
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: he came out. But you think maybe he just needs
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: to find a better situation than Pittsburgh. Well, I think
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: I think the knee probably hampers him a little bit
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: from when it comes to the ability to train and
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: being great shape. And that's always a little bit of
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: a knock that I had on Myles Jack is that
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I never thought that he was in the best shape
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: he could be in. And uh, but I love the
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: way he played a game because he was a thumper,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: and he was a willing thumper. Well, and he made
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: big plays when you need a big plays. I'll never
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: forget the interception in Pittsburgh on the sideline. M Leonard
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Furnette was released today too. Yeah, it doesn't surprise me
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: at of like three and a half yards to carry.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: This past year in Tampa was a bad year. There
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: was a lot of times where you saw Tom Brady
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: yelling Leny money. You know that's not good. Well he
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: got a ring out of it. And Leonard was always
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: just a little bit different. Uh, by the way, do
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: you like Aaron Rodgers going to the Jets? Well I was,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you, Um so, my oldest son
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: is a big Aaron Rodgers fan. He oh yeah, yeah. Well,
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: you know, he grew up at a time where the
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: Jaguars were very good and his best friend was from Milwaukee, right,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: so he watched a lot of Aaron Rodgers. And if
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: you're gonna watch quarterbacks, that was, by the way, the
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: good Aaron Rodgers. Before he goes to a dark room
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: to decide whether he wants to play or what was
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: the toad venom that he ingested Huffton in Peru last year.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's gone weird, So as far as I'm concerned,
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: the Jets can have him. But I don't mind weird.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: Okay when it comes to your time, but when it
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: comes time to start team building and helping your team
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: get better, being a participant in the OTA's the all
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: season workouts, things that Tom Brady did when we had
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: a pandemic going on. Yeah, and Tom was like, hey,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: let's get guys out there. Will Aaron Rodgers show up
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: for the voluntary workouts for the New York Jets to
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: help his teammates get better? Do you get the sense
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: that's him anymore? I mean it's I don't now if
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: I'm New York. I swing because I'm New York, right,
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: and you know, make a splash. The TV did change
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: this year. Their pens in New York are really sharp. Yeah, okay,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: And Aaron is a little thin skin. Yeah, he might
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: not gonna be an interesting way, Yeah, he's well, it'll
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: be a lot of fun. When I was in college,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I entered at a TV station in Kansas City, and
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: I used to stay late to watch Mike Ditka's press
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: conference that was before the internet. He's the best and
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: he was sharp. Aaron Rodgers might be that guy that
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: I go looking for his press conference every week. Yeah,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: because you know what, the media in Green Bay is
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: much more gentle than New York. So, but they're bringing
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: in everybody. I mean, they signed Allan Lazard. Apparently Marcedes
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Lewis is on their shopping list. I mean they're bringing
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: a bunch of packers in. It's kind of like Mercedes
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: couldn't play anymore when we let him go here in Jacksonville.
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I love Marcedes. I still I'm stinging that he's no
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: longer here. UM love him, But this is a this
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: is Tampa Bay North, right. I mean they're they're gonna
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: try to win a championship. They've got a really good defense,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: really good defense, really good defense, and a really good coach.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: I like Robert Yeah, I think he's a stud. And
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: uh Hackett, Nate Hackett. Oh yeah, you know, you had
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: such a tough go and his dad he knows New
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: York because his dad was the offensive coordination. And then
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: all sudden you got Aaron Rodgers and it turns into
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: a bad show because I can't use the other words.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: It's not going to be well. Happy Saint Patrick's Day.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: To thank you, I hope you enjoy We're Green tomorrow. Yeah,
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: please do. All right, it's great to see it. Jeff
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: and Joe Fortunato and David Choe, our entire broadcast crew
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: here from Jaguars Central. Do we still call it that?
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: All right? I guess I kind of do. That'll do it.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: Thanks to Allie for listening and watching. Had a great
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: night and a great weekend. We'll talk to you next week.