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MIDNIGHT SCREAMS: DESIGNER, 33, FOUND DEAD ON HAMPTONS YACHT · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Midnight screams.
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  Speaker 2: A beautiful young fashion designer found dead on a Hampton's yacht.
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  Speaker 2: And I can tell you this, nothing good happens after midnight. Midnight,
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  Speaker 2: Hampton's is the playground for millionaires. A dead woman on
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  Speaker 2: a yacht. I'm easy, Grace, this is Crime Stories. I
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  Speaker 2: want to thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 3: Blood curdling screams heard in the middle of the night
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  Speaker 3: at the Montaka Yacht Club. First responders board the boat
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  Speaker 3: to find thirty three year old Martha nolan Oslatterer unconscious.
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  Speaker 3: A night of partying now shrouded in mystery.
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  Speaker 1: I can't stress it enough.
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  Speaker 2: I've told a million juries this nothing good happens after midnight,
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  Speaker 2: and all of the wealthy neighbors thereby that yacht club
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  Speaker 2: here screams at midnight and a woman's body found on
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  Speaker 2: one of the yachts. Dot there straight out to Tasa Tails,
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  Speaker 2: joining us investigative reporter star of Tasa Tales on YouTube
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  Speaker 2: Tisa what do we know right now?
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  Speaker 4: What we know right now is that this woman was
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  Speaker 4: found unresponsive. There was a naked man screaming in an
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  Speaker 4: elusive private club. But the thing is the police aren't
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  Speaker 4: giving that much information. But if you know anything about
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  Speaker 4: the Hamptons and you know anything about Montalk, what they're
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  Speaker 4: not telling us is explaining the whole story. Montalk is
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  Speaker 4: literally the end of the Hamptons. It is exclusive, it
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  Speaker 4: is wealthy, it is sexy, but it is also very quiet,
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  Speaker 4: unlike the Hamptons. When wherever something happens in Montak. In
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  Speaker 4: Hampton's it's on the front page of page six and Montak,
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  Speaker 4: things quietly get swept under the rug. They're letting us know.
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  Speaker 4: Oh you know, they're not released who actually found them.
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  Speaker 4: The boyfriend's name, which is highly unusual. It was his shot.
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  Speaker 4: He owns Tune in the Marina. And lets you know,
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  Speaker 4: this man either comes from deep pockets, deep money, maybe both.
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  Speaker 4: When you get into Montak, billionaires go to play. Everybody
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  Speaker 4: knows everybody. She was very well known. But yet, but yet,
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  Speaker 4: there is hardly anything in the media being released about this.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of residents are thinking that something is being
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  Speaker 4: swept under the rug.
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  Speaker 1: And let me just tell you something about Montak.
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  Speaker 4: There have been confirmed drug rings where it's for limmel.
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  Speaker 4: Drivers are delivering drugs flown in fresh from the dr
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  Speaker 4: This has been confirmed. There are billionaires, there are wanna
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  Speaker 4: be billionaires.
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  Speaker 1: I mean in tasa tails.
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  Speaker 2: You're telling me that unlike a lot of people I've
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  Speaker 2: prosecuted that sailed up on the corner. The people are
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  Speaker 2: so rich in the Hamptons, and Montak is at the
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  Speaker 2: very tip of the island, which means you're not just wealthy,
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  Speaker 2: you're megawealthy because you're away from the great unwashed that
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  Speaker 2: are at the rest of the Hamptons and they have
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  Speaker 2: their dope flown and from Dominican Republic to be delivered.
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  Speaker 4: Did you just say that white glove service, Nancy, white
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  Speaker 4: glove service. It is literally a white glove service where
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  Speaker 4: you get an exclusive list of not.
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  Speaker 1: Just the drugs that the commoners use.
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  Speaker 4: You know, there's cope, there's MDA, there are designer drugs
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  Speaker 4: flown in especially and is delivered white glove service. I
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  Speaker 4: think about four rings so far have been busted. But
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  Speaker 4: this goes into the Montague. Why haven't you heard that?
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  Speaker 4: Because things get swept under the rug. You look at
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  Speaker 4: the Montaks. If you do any research, they'll be the
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  Speaker 4: first to tell you we've never had any instances with murder.
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  Speaker 4: And what has been a bastion of the wealthy, the billionaires,
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  Speaker 4: the parties, and all those sturdy little secrets that come
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  Speaker 4: with it. You cannot find anything. It's actually irregular and
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  Speaker 4: absurd to think where there is that much money, power
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  Speaker 4: and hangar ones that nothing in the whole history of
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  Speaker 4: Montak has happened besides the designer drug delivery service. Again,
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  Speaker 4: the reason why all eyes are on Montak, or, as
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  Speaker 4: they like to call it, the End, is the fact
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  Speaker 4: that things get brushed under. People might be paid off,
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  Speaker 4: people might be might be scared to speak, but the
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  Speaker 4: billionaires love to keep it quiet. So all eyes in
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  Speaker 4: New York are looking into what's going on in Montak
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  Speaker 4: because at the end of the day, it's so exclusive.
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  Speaker 1: Even most New Yorkers don't.
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  Speaker 4: Know what happens behind that facade.
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  Speaker 2: Straight out to Dan Murphy joining US former NYPD detective sergeant,
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  Speaker 2: Joint Terrorism Task Force now star of the Goal Shows podcast. Dan,
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  Speaker 2: She's right, we never hear about anything going wrong in
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  Speaker 2: the Hampton's much less Montalk. You might see a movie
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  Speaker 2: here and there, you know you just had murder in
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  Speaker 2: the Hampton's blah blah blah, but it's all make believe.
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  Speaker 2: Why do we never hear about the real truth. There's
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  Speaker 2: got to be crime in the Hamptons, Suffolk.
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  Speaker 5: County, and that whole area is there's a lot of
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  Speaker 5: money out there, and where there's money, there is a
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  Speaker 5: media control, whether it's real or implied. And I think
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  Speaker 5: out there you will never hear all that dirt unless
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  Speaker 5: they want you to hear it. This is an area
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  Speaker 5: that is so exclusive. People have so much money they
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  Speaker 5: want to keep it as clean as possible. They do
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  Speaker 5: not want their dirty laundry aired, and they will go
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  Speaker 5: to great lengths to do that. They have to keep
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  Speaker 5: the property values up. They have to keep the money
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  Speaker 5: flowing out. The rich people have to feel they can
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  Speaker 5: go there safely and do whatever it is they want
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  Speaker 5: to do. Most don't do illicit things, but some do.
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  Speaker 5: This is an area where you're going to see people
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  Speaker 5: who are going to turn a blind eye to things
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  Speaker 5: and just either not want to believe it. It's not
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  Speaker 5: too different from the Upper East Side of Manhattan. People
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  Speaker 5: think the Upper east Side of Manhattan is just a
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  Speaker 5: playground for the rich. In many ways, it can be,
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  Speaker 5: but there's also dirtiness behind the covers.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Dan Murphy, when you hear phrases thrown around
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  Speaker 2: like police are being tight lipped. We can't get answers.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody's talking, swept under the rug. You don't know where
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  Speaker 2: to start exactly. We know so little about this. Basically
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  Speaker 2: we had to fight to find out the name of
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  Speaker 2: the yacht. It's Ripple that said, when you don't know
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  Speaker 2: where to start, you start with the victim.
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  Speaker 1: Who is she? Listen?
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  Speaker 6: Hi, I'm Martha, the founder, CEO, crew director. You name
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  Speaker 6: us of East Way East. We are launching a resort
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  Speaker 6: waar Line soon. We just got our first ridings humble Back,
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  Speaker 6: and I want you to share first lucks with you
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  Speaker 6: and see what you think. We got another coachet. This
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  Speaker 6: is flor Lem, absolutely stunning on a tritter on I
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  Speaker 6: think this will be a bestseller.
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  Speaker 7: Living her best life, posting pictures with friends on private jets,
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  Speaker 7: helicopters and yachts. Martha is becoming a legend as the
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  Speaker 7: founder of fashion label East by East.
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  Speaker 2: Straight out to Greg Morse, veteran trial lawyer, criminal defense
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  Speaker 2: attorney at Morse Legal and author of the Untested on Amazon, Greg,
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  Speaker 2: she's being made out to be a party girl. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that's true and I'll tell you why. Everything
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  Speaker 2: I have been able to find out about her is
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  Speaker 2: that she was raised in a very small town, very
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  Speaker 2: small town. Her dream was to quote make it in
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  Speaker 2: New York, and she has worked night and day, claude
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  Speaker 2: tooth and nail to create her own business. I don't
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  Speaker 2: know if this is the Hampton's pr machine behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 2: painting her to be the party girl so people don't care. Basically,
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  Speaker 2: she asked for it, she got it. Have you ever
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  Speaker 2: seen that happen where the victim is maligned?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you see.
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  Speaker 8: That in these wealthy areas. I've been practicing law for
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  Speaker 8: twenty five years in Palm Beach, one of the wealthiest
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  Speaker 8: zip codes in the world, and police law enforcement in
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  Speaker 8: these places like in Montalk the Hampton's a rich zip code, They're,
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  Speaker 8: in my opinion, paid to keep things quiet for the residents.
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  Speaker 8: Tisa hit the nail on the head when she talked
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  Speaker 8: about these communities wanting to present safety, wanting to present
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  Speaker 8: there's no crime. We see that a lot also in
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  Speaker 8: Boca Raton in South Florida. The way statistics are manipulated
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  Speaker 8: so they want to In this case, it sounds like
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  Speaker 8: they're trying to make it seem like maybe she didn't
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  Speaker 8: belong who cares a quote unquote you know person's that's
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  Speaker 8: not normal out here, so this won't happen again. She
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  Speaker 8: does seem a little bit like maybe accelerating her success
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  Speaker 8: through social media.
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  Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I want to go to doctor Chloe Carmichael
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  Speaker 2: jumping off what Greg Morse just told us. Doctor Chloe
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  Speaker 2: renowned psychologist and author of Nervous Energy Harness The Power
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  Speaker 2: of Your Anxiety Dodtor Chloe. Much has been made also,
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  Speaker 2: not only for her being called a party girl, which
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  Speaker 2: I don't think is true from what I can tell
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  Speaker 2: about the victim.
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  Speaker 1: She has worked, as.
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  Speaker 2: I said, day and night, climbed tooth and claw to
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  Speaker 2: create her business. You know how hard it is to
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  Speaker 2: break into fashion designing people before they even start, because
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  Speaker 2: it's so hard to do much less in New York City,
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  Speaker 2: And somehow she managed to get in out in the Hamptons. Also,
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  Speaker 2: she's being mocked for what she posts online. Hey, so
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  Speaker 2: many people do it. They make their life seem ideally.
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  Speaker 2: My daughter was looking up breakfasts the other day on
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  Speaker 2: Insta and getting recipes, and she makes these beautiful organic
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  Speaker 2: breakfasts for herself, and it shows somebody like posing looking
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  Speaker 2: at the sunrise in a yoga position with a bowl
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  Speaker 2: of organic strawberries in front of them. Really, that is
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  Speaker 2: not real. So I don't fault her. I mean, look
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  Speaker 2: at the Kardashians, You think all that's real.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's not.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of it is posed to give an image,
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  Speaker 2: an image that will help them with their business. They're
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  Speaker 2: not idiots. Okay, that's what she's doing. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: like her being mocked for it.
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  Speaker 9: No, Absolutely, Nancy, as you said, in New York City
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  Speaker 9: to make it in the fashion world. Even the young
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  Speaker 9: people from FIT, the Fashion Institute there that I've worked with,
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  Speaker 9: there are some of the most hardworking, not to mention
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  Speaker 9: oftentimes beautiful, just like this beautiful young woman. And so no,
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  Speaker 9: I definitely wouldn't think that just because she's putting out
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  Speaker 9: great content online that hello, she's in the fashion business.
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  Speaker 9: Of course she's going to be putting out, you know,
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  Speaker 9: image conscious material. That makes perfect sense. And to your
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  Speaker 9: point earlier about nothing good happening after midnight, from a
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  Speaker 9: psychological perspective, it's actually very true because tempers flair people sometimes.
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  Speaker 9: You know, if there was foul play here people could
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  Speaker 9: you know, maybe have been drinking all day or using
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  Speaker 9: drugs throughout the day. Also on a yacht, we're talking
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  Speaker 9: about a place that's off limits to the police, for example,
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  Speaker 9: So there's a very a sense of privacy.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, we're showing video that she has posted. Now, I
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  Speaker 2: guarantee you she is sharing this private plane with somebody.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody's given her a ride and she is, like so
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  Speaker 2: many celebrities, giving the appearance that she has a private plane. Well,
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  Speaker 2: she is on a private plane. They cost a lot
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  Speaker 2: of money, over twenty grand. Let's take a look at more.
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  Speaker 2: What more do we know about Martha?
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  Speaker 6: Hello, Hello, my name is Martha. I am the founder
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  Speaker 6: and CEO of East by East. So east by East
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  Speaker 6: is Ainger's warber Brant. East by East stands for new
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  Speaker 6: Work for the Hamptons. A tagline is built in the city,
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  Speaker 6: made for the Sun. I absolutely adore it. I think
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  Speaker 6: it resonates with so many people on so many levels
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  Speaker 6: because it at some point everyone in their lives are
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  Speaker 6: you know, grinding city life. But everyone's just destined for
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  Speaker 6: the Sun. I know I am, and pretty much everyone
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  Speaker 6: else is. So I think it's very fitting.
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  Speaker 2: She was putting out the social putting it out, putting
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  Speaker 2: it out, trying to get eyes on her workplace, her
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  Speaker 2: fashion designs. But what about the night she's found dead
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  Speaker 2: on a yacht.
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  Speaker 10: Listen, just after midnight, the calm over the serene Montauk
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  Speaker 10: Yacht Club is shattered by the sounds of a scream.
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  Speaker 10: Passers by rush to a boat in the marina where
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  Speaker 10: a man is standing over an unconscious woman. Soon, the
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  Speaker 10: marina is filled with the sound of sirens, but the
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  Speaker 10: woman isn't rushed to the hospital. First responders to clear
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  Speaker 10: the woman dead on the scene. When Martha Nolan's boyfriend,
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  Speaker 10: the owner of the yacht named Ripple, is seen running
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  Speaker 10: naked and screaming, regulars at the Montak Yacht Club in
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  Speaker 10: East Hampton aren't shocked, accustomed to the owner being drunk
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  Speaker 10: and always messed up.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, did I just hear Tisa tales that a guy's
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  Speaker 2: running around naked?
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  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna throw that into the mix.
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  Speaker 2: She's dead on a yacht in Montak the Hamptons after midnight,
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  Speaker 2: and now I've got a guy run around naked, correct.
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  Speaker 4: Running around and screaming at the top of his lungs.
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  Speaker 1: That's my girlfriend. That's my girlfriend running around naked. No
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  Speaker 1: one knew what to do.
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  Speaker 4: The police were actually on the scene from four am on.
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  Speaker 4: I reached out to my sources that are actually in
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  Speaker 4: the mon Talk area, the Hampton's area. And the most
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  Speaker 4: shocking thing about this that have people scratching their head
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  Speaker 4: about what exactly happened to that girlfriend. Even though police
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  Speaker 4: are actively on that scene, they were actively looking for clues.
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  Speaker 4: This is an active investigation. Again, the police cannot say
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  Speaker 4: what exactly happened. They are even puzzled. And while people
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  Speaker 4: police are looking for evidence, people are in the pool
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  Speaker 4: lounging like nothing happens. Again, it makes me look at
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  Speaker 4: mom talks their crime figures of nothing ever happens here.
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  Speaker 1: It makes me side eye.
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  Speaker 4: Them because even when something has happened, people seem to
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  Speaker 4: not here. It really gets a sinister angle to what's
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  Speaker 4: going on. Again, we have to wait for the results
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  Speaker 4: of the investigation. But something is not right. It is
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  Speaker 4: giving twin peaks David Lynch era creepiness surround it by money,
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  Speaker 4: wealth and influence.
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  Speaker 1: Dan Murphy, that's total bs. They have no idea what
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  Speaker 1: happened to her.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you can look at a body and teil
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  Speaker 2: is it stabbed where they strangled? Can't always tell if
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  Speaker 2: they're affixiated or suffocated. You can very often tell if
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  Speaker 2: somebody's been poisoned by the way they smell, or whether
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  Speaker 2: there's phone coming out of their mouth. That sometimes takes toxicology.
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  Speaker 2: Ods take toxicology. But you look for bruises, you look
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  Speaker 2: for injection sites. There is no way they have no
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  Speaker 2: idea what happened to her.
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  Speaker 1: That's not true.
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  Speaker 5: When you look at a scene. A scene will tell
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  Speaker 5: you a great many things about what happened to that
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  Speaker 5: body at the scene. That's why crime scene investigation and
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  Speaker 5: evidence recoveries important and documentation of that. In this situation,
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  Speaker 5: any dead body that's found under suspicious circumstances that area
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  Speaker 5: is considered a crime scene. Whether or not there was
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  Speaker 5: alcohol or drugs or anything else in that area, we
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  Speaker 5: don't know. They're being tight lipped, as they said, and
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  Speaker 5: they might be tight lipped. It might be small.
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  Speaker 1: Dan Murphy up, you know, Dan Murphy.
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  Speaker 2: Look, nobody on this panel just fell off the turnip truck.
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  Speaker 1: Murphy.
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  Speaker 2: You put a dead woman after midnight on a yacht
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  Speaker 2: in the Hampton's screams and a naked guy. Is somebody
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  Speaker 2: suggesting that this was just death by natural cause? Is
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  Speaker 2: what this young girl kills?
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  Speaker 1: Ever? With what a heart attack?
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  Speaker 5: I'm not suggesting that. I mean, I don't know, but
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  Speaker 5: I do know this much. I know that the scene
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  Speaker 5: will tell you a great deal more they haven't told
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  Speaker 5: us self the body. You're right when you examine a
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  Speaker 5: body of the scene that's not nearly as thorough as
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  Speaker 5: an autopsy. However, there are many things you can look
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  Speaker 5: for that will tell you something about the death. Evidence
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  Speaker 5: of particular hemorrhaging will tell you if there's asphyxia.
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  Speaker 3: The beautiful thirty three year old shares glimpses of her
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  Speaker 3: life online pop up shops in Montauk, New York, rooftop drinks,
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  Speaker 3: and private jet getaways with her boyfriend. But behind the
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  Speaker 3: curated posts, something darker may have been brewing.
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  Speaker 2: What happened to this beautiful young fashion designer that was
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  Speaker 2: finally making it after working her fingers to the bone
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  Speaker 2: for years and years, coming from a small town, getting
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  Speaker 2: her education and working literally like a dog.
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  Speaker 1: Then she's thrown into the.
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  Speaker 2: Melieu at the Hampton's, specifically the Montauk Yacht Club. So
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  Speaker 2: far they're not responding to calls and questions. Hmmm, wonder
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  Speaker 2: why you know they don't want to be near anything
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  Speaker 2: close to a dead woman's body on a yacht part
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  Speaker 2: at their yacht club. No, no, wonder they're not returning
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  Speaker 2: phone calls or emails. Same thing with the LA there
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  Speaker 2: law enforcement. You can't put them down. Why the secrecy? Well,
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  Speaker 2: first of all, when you don't know where to go,
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  Speaker 2: you look at your victim, because that's all you've got.
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  Speaker 1: Let's take another look at her.
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  Speaker 6: Hi, I'm Maithia's the founder, CEO, crew director, you name
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  Speaker 6: it of East Way East. We are launching a resort
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  Speaker 6: wear line soon. We just got our first riding shambles
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  Speaker 6: You can see competing the details absolute, She's stunning.
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  Speaker 5: On.
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  Speaker 6: I tried it on.
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  Speaker 1: I think this will be a catering to the rich
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  Speaker 1: and privilege.
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  Speaker 2: They're in the Hampton specifically mon Talk again joining me
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  Speaker 2: in all star panels, Trade out to Sydney Sumner joining
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  Speaker 2: me Crime Stories investigative reporter Sidney, what can you tell
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  Speaker 2: me about the mon Talk yacht club.
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  Speaker 11: Well, Nancy, this is a very big yacht club, spanning
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  Speaker 11: sixteen acres. They have access to one of the largest
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  Speaker 11: marinas in the Hamptons. There's a restaurant, there's a pool,
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  Speaker 11: they have caddle boards and chairs set out on the
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  Speaker 11: beach for people to enjoy. They have tennis, there's plenty
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  Speaker 11: of space to host events. And as far as I know,
• 19:41
  Speaker 11: this is a very high end area. This is a
• 19:45
  Speaker 11: very expensive resort stay if you were to stay here
• 19:48
  Speaker 11: for the weekend, and I think it's frequented by celebrities.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Well mare, can you tell me, Lisa the mon talk
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: yach clubs exclusive.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: It is sexy.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: It is everything that you would see from a show
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: like Billions where they're having their summer holiday. The cheapest
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: room during high season is fifteen hundred okay. To dock
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: in the marina, they have some of the highest marina
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: docking fees to pull your boat.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Yacht whatever they want to call it.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: You know, rich people like calling yachts boats okay, whatever
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: they want to call it. The down play the old money.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: They have some of the highest docking fees.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: On top of that, the rich are coward are literally
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: fighting in line to get their boats ducked. They have
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: an exclusive private beach miles and miles some of the
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: best beach at the end of the Hampton's in Montak,
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: some of the best beach out there that is only
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: exclusive to the guests. You must be someone Okay, your
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: bank account must have high self.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Esteem for you to be there.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: But the thing is about Montak that is actually really
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: offensive about the way they're classifying this victim as the
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: party girl. No offense, but if you are in the partying,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: you will be in Hampton. Mom Talk is where people
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: that work hard, that are either generational or self made
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: money go to relax, have some glamour, but also disappear. Okay,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: a party boat in the mon Talk and with the
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Monk Yacht Club at the dock is not going to
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: be accepted and it's not going to be tolerated.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Again, what do we have. A woman that got herself
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: out of a small town. Okay, rags the.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: Rich a story managed She managed funds, She managed a
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: lot of businesses until she got enough capital because she.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Was smart, she had a good brain on her shoulders.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: She got enough capital and a dog eat dog fashion industry, which, by.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: The way, in New York.
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Everybody's trying to be either a model, an actress, a
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: fashion designer. Everybody's trying to be in there. She rolls
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: to the top and a dog eat dog. Okay, and
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: she was there celebrating. Just three weeks earlier she had
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: finally launched her clothing brand, which was actually photographed.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: In Montalk by the Mon Talk Yacht Club.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Okay, this girl was beautiful, smart, she was a go getter.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: She was found in an exclusive yacht club. We're only
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: the wealthy goal to actually disappear. And wait a minute,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: right there, that really narrows my suspects. If you're at
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: the quote exclusive mon Talk Yacht Club, I mean, how
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: many members are there?
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Again?
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I have a hard time Doctor Thomas Coin joining US
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Chief Medical Examiner, District Team Medical Examiner's Office, State of Florida.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Never a lack of business, pathologist, toxicologist, neuropathologist, and more,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Doctor Coin. That's total bs that they have no idea
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: the COEOD cause of death.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I was talking to Dan Murphy about it earlier.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Why would a cop even say that unless they wanted
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: to keep it on the low down, Because you can
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: look at a body and see is there a stab
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Is there a gunshot wound?
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Is there ligature? Is there a manual? You can't always tell.
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: Asphyxiation, poison, OD, but you can get a really good idea.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Right. But yeah, there was no.
• 23:10
  Speaker 12: Violent means of death here, But it doesn't mean that
• 23:14
  Speaker 12: she didn't die of something related to toxicology.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: I would also say.
• 23:18
  Speaker 12: That, you know, in this case, there was no reporter
• 23:20
  Speaker 12: her having a significant natural disease. She's young, but you
• 23:24
  Speaker 12: know she could still have a pulmonary embolist or blood
• 23:27
  Speaker 12: clot in her lungs, or for instance, an a organized section,
• 23:31
  Speaker 12: perhaps even like a ruptured him up.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: There was a coin there, he is dot a coin, yep,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: if there was something that was You.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Graduated near the top of your class in medical school.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: I know you're a taschologist, a pathologist, and so much more,
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: but you're actually I had to see your face. I
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: want to make sure you're saying is with a straight face.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: It's after midnight. You got a guy running around naked
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: and drunk, apparently on a yacht at Risimon taught Yut Club.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: A dead girl screams, and you're actually saying maybe she
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: died of natural causes.
• 24:12
  Speaker 12: No, no, no, I'm saying there wasn't any natural If
• 24:15
  Speaker 12: they had found a natural cause, it would have released
• 24:18
  Speaker 12: that with the cause of death. So I'm saying that
• 24:20
  Speaker 12: they didn't find anything that would suggest a natural cause either.
• 24:24
  Speaker 12: To me, if I were a betting person, I would
• 24:26
  Speaker 12: put my chips in the toxicology pile, because, again, like
• 24:30
  Speaker 12: I said, not having any violent means identify at autopsy,
• 24:35
  Speaker 12: I would I would wait for the toxicology reports.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on, Cooin. Remember you're
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: a medical doctor. We're just mere mortals.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: Dan Murphy, I want you to break it down and
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: cop taught everything Coin just said, because when he says
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: it's going to be toxicology. In other words, she could
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: have been slipped to rufi and had a reaction or
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: too minie rufies, think Natalie Hollow, Remember Natalie who you're
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: in vander slut, who lies through his rear end. Just
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: imagine that, just one moment, lying through your rear end. Yeah,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: that would be right lying through his rear end. That
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: she choked on her own vomit. And we all believe
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: she had been slipped a substance in her drink at
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Carlos and Charlie's that would be voluntary manslaughter at the least,
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: if not murder, felony murder. In other words, when you
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: slip somebody a roofie, a date rape, drug, or anything
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: in their drink, that is an aggravated assault, akin to
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: shooting them or stabbing them or hitting them in the
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: head with a rock. That's an aggravated assault. So if
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: someone dies during an aggravated assault or any other felony
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: like burglary, like rape, that equals felony murder. A death
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: occurred during the commission of a felony, it can be
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: any felony, but if a death occurs during it.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Here's a great example.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: You and I decide to rob a bank, and before
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: we go in, I say, listen, Murphy, and nobody's dying today.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: Nobody's going to die. Okay, don't pull your gun. You
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: go in and the first thing you do is shoot
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: the teller dead. I'm just trying to get some money,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: but I'm going to be charge of felony murder because
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: a death occurred while I'm committing a felony. So if
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: anyone puts something in her drink and she dies, that
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: can be a felony murder. So when he is saying toxicology,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: that can mean a whole lot of things.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, toxicology is going to tell you a lot of things,
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: but it may not tell you a lot of things
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: exactly how those substances got into her body. If that
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: is what the cause of death is determined to be. Now,
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: in that situation, we always look at the totality of
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: the circumstances. We had these screams being heard by other
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: people in an area where you do not hear screams
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: unless it's probably somebody laughing loud. We've got screams heard
• 27:03
  Speaker 5: from a young woman on a yacht. We've got a
• 27:06
  Speaker 5: naked guy running around screaming like a lunatic. That's my girlfriend.
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: That's my girlfriend.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: You know another thing, Hold on right there, right there,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Dan Murphy, before we lose the thought, Greg Morris.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Something Murphy just said.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Normally, if this were anywhere but the Hampton's, you would
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: see the boyfriend, the naked boyfriend, and he would be
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: on the front page of the post with a little
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: black box digitally removed penis. Okay, we wouldn't show that.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: He'd be on the front of the Hampton's News. The
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Montak news, the everything. But we can't even get his
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: name again. He hasn't been charged with anything, but I
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: mean something. The owner of the yacht, the witness. Why
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: aren't we seeing anything? And no one has attributed any
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: wrongdoing to him?
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Yet where is he?
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: No?
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah, well that's again, like the other people have talked about.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: This is a wealthy area.
• 28:12
  Speaker 8: It's right by the Memory Motel made famous by the
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: Rolling Stones. They made a song about the hotel. But
• 28:17
  Speaker 8: this is being kept quiet because it's a rich dip
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: code and it'll hurt tourism. And this is what happens
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: in places that perceive themselves as special because of money.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: During a glamorous summer trip in montac New York, thirty
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: three year old Martha Nolan o'slatter up or is a
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: so called party vote, but her dream life takes a
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: chilling turn.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: Party girl, party girl, party girl. Why are they saying
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: that about her? Do they think we won't care? They
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: did something similar in the Long Island serial killer case
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Rex Huerman Mahee Rottenhill waiting for trial, who murdered one
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: sex worker after the next, after the next. Is even
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: a child that was murdered? I guess because the child
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: was with the mom. All of those victims have been
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: dragged through the mud like we wouldn't care about them.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: Are they doing the same thing with Martha? How would
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: you feel? This your child? And she's being portrayed like that.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: She is anything but a party girl.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 29:21
  Speaker 7: Growing up, Martha studies commerce at university before earning a
• 29:25
  Speaker 7: master's in Digital marketing from the Smurfit Business School. Describing
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: herself as the small town girl who needed to get
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: out to achieve her big dreams, Martha says fashion is
• 29:34
  Speaker 7: a tough industry and it would be a slow road.
• 29:36
  Speaker 7: At twenty six, she leaves her small town and relocates
• 29:40
  Speaker 7: in New York City. Martha begins launching pop up events
• 29:43
  Speaker 7: to promote her summerware fashion label East by East in
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: the Hamptons and quickly gains recognition Bush.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We launched about two years ago and.
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: We had a first retail location pop up in montal
• 29:58
  Speaker 6: in the Montepee House, and Yeah, will be going back
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: there this.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Summer, so you will see us there.
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: We'll be doing some brand activations, some brand partnerships, some
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: like wellness stuff, and we will also of course throw
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: some parties, some cool parties with really cool DJs. So yeah, stay.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Tuned for that.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: I wonder how much she was trying to scramble to
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: find a place to throw a pool party for her
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: rich clients.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: But listen to what she did.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: She grows up in a small town, studies commerce at
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: university before getting a master's degree in digital marketing, and
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: somehow reaches her goal of relocating in New York City.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Very hard to do.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: It is a dog eat dog world, launching pop up
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: events to promote her fashion label, and finally she launches
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: a retail location in montaut Walton Beach House. Wow, Okay,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Sidney Sumner joining US Crime Stories investigative reporter.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: What can you tell me about that?
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Because I'm thinking, sid she put all this online. Anybody
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: can read it. She's basically saying here, I am, come
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: and get me.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 31:22
  Speaker 11: She was a very frequent social media user because she
• 31:26
  Speaker 11: needed to promote her fashion line and now there was
• 31:31
  Speaker 11: a separate social media presence for East by East. But
• 31:35
  Speaker 11: Martha Nolan herself was also always posting about her brand,
• 31:39
  Speaker 11: trying to make it bigger. So lots of people knew
• 31:43
  Speaker 11: who she was, had met her in person. I'm sure
• 31:47
  Speaker 11: she spent day and Dave at her papa, So it
• 31:50
  Speaker 11: wasn't just somebody running it. I'm sure she was there
• 31:53
  Speaker 11: herself as someone who is so driven and wants to
• 31:58
  Speaker 11: succeed and wants their brand to say seed. And it's
• 32:01
  Speaker 11: also heartbreaking. We saw a post from Martha's best friend
• 32:05
  Speaker 11: who funded East by East saying goodbye to her and
• 32:09
  Speaker 11: saying what a good friend she was and how inspired
• 32:13
  Speaker 11: and how successful he hoped she would be with this line.
• 32:18
  Speaker 11: So it was heartbreaking to see that. But yeah, so
• 32:21
  Speaker 11: people were very, very familiar with her life just from
• 32:25
  Speaker 11: her social media presence.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: That brings it up to it was a whole investigation,
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: up to a lot more suspects because of her social
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: media presence advertising where she is. But what do we
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: know about that night?
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Listen it's such a chill resort.
• 32:42
  Speaker 13: It's such a chill atmosphere and you never see anything
• 32:46
  Speaker 13: remotely like this, so it was unnerving.
• 32:49
  Speaker 7: After the East Hampton Town police and first responders pronounced
• 32:52
  Speaker 7: Martha dead, the county's homicide squad arrives on scene around
• 32:56
  Speaker 7: four am and takes over the investigation. The preliminary investigation
• 33:00
  Speaker 7: in an examiner and conclusive regarding the cause of death.
• 33:02
  Speaker 7: And an autopsy was performed by the Suffolk County Medical Examiner.
• 33:06
  Speaker 7: Final cause of death is pending further examination.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: So you just think of mon Talk as you know,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: a happy place.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and people come out here to vacation, spend their
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: time with their family.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Well, just a very small quaint safetown. From our friends
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: at NBC Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: To doctor Thomas Coin, medical examiner, pathologists, toxicologists, neuropathologists.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: What will they be doing in the.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Autopsy to determine cood specifically since they're telling us right
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: now that there's not any obvious sign of death, in
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: other words, no stab marks. But you know, when you
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: think about it, doctor Coin, remember Ellen Greenberg stabbed thirty
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: times and including in the back, and the police said
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: that was a suicide. Okay, with Epstein, he's clearly got
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: a ligature mark across horizontally his neck, not a U
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: shape mark he would find in a hanging, and they.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Said that was a suicide.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: So how will we get the truth and what will
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: the corn Or medical examiner be looking at to determine
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: her cod.
• 34:24
  Speaker 12: And those two examples, the problem really was a matter
• 34:27
  Speaker 12: of death. But because of death in this case, they
• 34:29
  Speaker 12: did a thorough autopsy which included an external and internal examination,
• 34:33
  Speaker 12: so they would have been able to determine if she
• 34:34
  Speaker 12: had any fatal injuries as I mentioned, skull fractures, bleeding
• 34:38
  Speaker 12: in the brain or around the brain, stab wounds, gunshot wounds,
• 34:42
  Speaker 12: or evidence of strangulation. With regards to natural disease, obviously
• 34:46
  Speaker 12: there's no significant natural disease processes, but they're probably going
• 34:52
  Speaker 12: to continue to do additional histological sections.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Can you say that, DoD Coin.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, can we clarify when you say no, some natural
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: disease you mean like cancer.
• 35:03
  Speaker 12: No obvious cancer or structural heart defects. So a young
• 35:06
  Speaker 12: person very rare for a person and for rage to
• 35:09
  Speaker 12: have a heart attack, right, but there are certain underlying
• 35:11
  Speaker 12: cardiomyopathies or genital heart defects that can cause a sudden
• 35:15
  Speaker 12: cardiac rhythmia where they could you know, the heartstop put
• 35:19
  Speaker 12: them up.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: You're back on a heart attack on a young girl,
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: on a young with a naked friend at mid time.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Well, sure, I've seen everything you need to get.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: Off the natural causes doctor, and I'm going back to
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: natural causes.
• 35:35
  Speaker 12: It was a natural cause. You ask me what they're
• 35:37
  Speaker 12: doing with the autopsy procedure. Because they did not find
• 35:41
  Speaker 12: anything to indicate a fatal injury, They're going to look
• 35:44
  Speaker 12: a little bit deeper to make sure there wasn't an
• 35:46
  Speaker 12: underlying genetic variation that could cause a sudden part rhythm
• 35:51
  Speaker 12: abnormality while they're waiting for toxicology results to come back.
• 35:54
  Speaker 12: So they're going to keep everything open just to make
• 35:57
  Speaker 12: sure they can find the cause of death. But right now,
• 36:00
  Speaker 12: there's no obvious cause of that. There's no fatal injury
• 36:02
  Speaker 12: that they could see on the external or internal examination. So,
• 36:05
  Speaker 12: like I said, right now, they're going to follow up
• 36:07
  Speaker 12: toxicology testing and they may do additional testing to try
• 36:11
  Speaker 12: to catch something that they couldn't see with their eyes
• 36:13
  Speaker 12: at the autopic So for instance, like mildcarditis or inflammation
• 36:18
  Speaker 12: in the brain, something that you have to use a
• 36:19
  Speaker 12: microscope to find. That's a last ditch resort finding. But
• 36:25
  Speaker 12: right now they're just waiting on toxicology because there was
• 36:27
  Speaker 12: no obvious fatal injury that they were able to see
• 36:30
  Speaker 12: during the autopo.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Don't you coin, how do you determine if someone was
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: for instance, slift slip to Ruthie ghb Gamma hydroxyped, right,
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: how do you determine that?
• 36:40
  Speaker 12: So I would have a toxicology report that would just
• 36:43
  Speaker 12: label or identify, excuse me, the drugs that were found.
• 36:47
  Speaker 12: If it's an unusual substance like rue, hypnol or or
• 36:52
  Speaker 12: for instance, GHB, you would have to then turn back
• 36:55
  Speaker 12: to your law enforcement officers and try to figure out
• 36:58
  Speaker 12: how they obtained that drug. Because at autopsy and even
• 37:02
  Speaker 12: the toxicology if where wouldn't.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Mean how do you physically do it? Coin?
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: Do you take tissue? What is tissue? How much do
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: you take? Where do you get it? Do you draw blood?
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: How long can you draw? How long can you have
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: a dead body and still draw blood? I mean, how
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: do you get it?
• 37:18
  Speaker 11: Sure?
• 37:19
  Speaker 12: So we take blood at autopsy, we get blood if available,
• 37:22
  Speaker 12: We'll try to get any other fluids that may be
• 37:24
  Speaker 12: present in the body, so I fluid or vitreous fluid.
• 37:27
  Speaker 12: We get urine, we can get bile. We can also
• 37:30
  Speaker 12: get tissue. So sometimes our cases are decomposed, we'll have
• 37:33
  Speaker 12: to try to obtain tissue to see if we can
• 37:35
  Speaker 12: find the presence of a drug. That may not allow
• 37:37
  Speaker 12: us to tell you the amount of the drug or
• 37:39
  Speaker 12: a good idea of what that person had in their
• 37:41
  Speaker 12: system at the time of death, but it at least
• 37:43
  Speaker 12: allow us to identify a drug. And in this case,
• 37:47
  Speaker 12: she was pronounced dead on scene, but there was no
• 37:50
  Speaker 12: evidence of decomposition. She probably died at some time after
• 37:53
  Speaker 12: midnight before she was found, so therefore she should have
• 37:57
  Speaker 12: plenty of blood for testing as well as other fluids.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: As the body ages say, when you're getting to two hours,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: five hours, ten hours, is it harder to get blood
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: out of a body to test? And when you say
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: we obtain tissue, what does that mean? You scrape some
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: sen skin cells, you get a piece of her liver,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 1: Break it down. I didn't get my MD. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: a trial will really.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: Absolutely, So it's very easy to obtain blood at autopsy
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  Speaker 12: from a person who is recently deceased. So all the
• 38:30
  Speaker 12: blood is still going to be present within their vascular
• 38:32
  Speaker 12: system and within their hearts. So we try to obtain
• 38:34
  Speaker 12: blood from both a peripheral source and a heart source
• 38:37
  Speaker 12: because after death, drugs are in blood can redistribute, so
• 38:42
  Speaker 12: you want to make sure you're not looking at an
• 38:45
  Speaker 12: abnormal finding, So you want to get both blood sites
• 38:48
  Speaker 12: to compare for toxicology for tissue. As I mentioned, you can.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: Mean man speak English. Sure, sure. When you say obtain blood, I.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Mean put in a needle and you would draw blood
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  Speaker 2: just like you would a living person would at the doctor.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Two sides. What do you mean by that one off?
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: This on, one off, that on?
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  Speaker 2: Or do you mean blood and vitreous fluid from the eye?
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: What is bile? Man, have to work with you before
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I put you on.
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  Speaker 12: A stand cooin you get You get blood from a
• 39:22
  Speaker 12: peripheral source like thephemeral vein. You know your leg vein.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 12: So I'm doing the autopsy, I'm opening the body up.
• 39:28
  Speaker 12: I have access to all of those blood vessels as
• 39:30
  Speaker 12: well as the heart. So you literally use a needle
• 39:33
  Speaker 12: and you have pain blood from the heart, or you
• 39:34
  Speaker 12: have pain blood from any vein that you can find that.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Has a visible blood.
• 39:39
  Speaker 12: You have access to the bladder, so you literally put
• 39:42
  Speaker 12: a needle into the bladder and you and you pull
• 39:44
  Speaker 12: urine out. You have access to the eye, so you
• 39:46
  Speaker 12: put a needle in the eyes and you pull vitreous
• 39:48
  Speaker 12: flud out. Your bile is in your gall bladder, under
• 39:51
  Speaker 12: your liver. You're pain bile. You try to get as
• 39:53
  Speaker 12: much fluid as you can. Then you have access to
• 39:56
  Speaker 12: liver tissue for testing. You may also get scale of muscle.
• 40:00
  Speaker 12: You can get brain tissue for testing, so you're shry
• 40:02
  Speaker 12: to obtained as many tissues as you can so you
• 40:05
  Speaker 12: have plenty of samples for testing.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Blood curdling screams heard in the middle of the night
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: at the Montaque Yacht Club. First responders board the boat
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: to find thirty three year old Martha nolan Oslatterer unconscious.
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: A night of partying now shrouded in mystery.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: A night of partying is he talking about? We don't
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: know that. All we know she's dead on a yacht.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: She's very young, very beautiful.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Screams wake up neighbors, and a naked man's running around.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: That's what I know, And I am not buying natural causes.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Oh no, Why is.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: She being painted as a so called party girl? Sounds
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: to me that she worked her whole life to get
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: where she is right now and finally had a tiny
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: taste of success. Anna is dead on a yacht. This
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: is not going to be swept under any rug. I
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: don't care if it's a fancy Persian rug. And somebody's
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: second mansion in mon Talk. No, Anne, Oh, it's not
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: the first time murder has scarred the Hamptons, although they
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: would like you to think that's never happened. Does the
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: name Sabina Korhamdale ring a bell?
• 41:22
  Speaker 13: And he was supporting Sabina for I believe the two
• 41:25
  Speaker 13: years they were together. He was really helping to support
• 41:29
  Speaker 13: her artistic endeavors.
• 41:32
  Speaker 10: New York artist Sabina korum Del has made quite the
• 41:35
  Speaker 10: name for herself with an art theory blog, The Ruo Journal.
• 41:39
  Speaker 10: But funding Sabina's lifestyle is her boyfriend Thomas Gannon. The
• 41:43
  Speaker 10: couple checks into the ritzy Hampton spa Shashshoogie Bon House,
• 41:47
  Speaker 10: but come Monday morning, a housekeeper finds Sabina violently murdered
• 41:51
  Speaker 10: and Gannon nowhere to be found. Speaking with her lift
• 41:55
  Speaker 10: driver on the way to the spa, a reporter discovers
• 41:58
  Speaker 10: the driver actually took Gann into his Pennsylvania home hours
• 42:02
  Speaker 10: before Sabina was found dead.
• 42:04
  Speaker 13: The woman that I'm actually reporting on was found dead
• 42:07
  Speaker 13: in Harum, you know, hours later. My gut instinct was like,
• 42:12
  Speaker 13: this is just too strange. What would a man be
• 42:16
  Speaker 13: walking out of a spot at eat in the morning
• 42:18
  Speaker 13: asking for a lift.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: That's from our friends at True Crime News. Wow, does
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: anybody see the similarities to doctor Chloe Carmichael joining us
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: renowned psychologist doctor Chloe another young, beautiful female entrepreneur dead Hampton's.
• 42:38
  Speaker 9: Yes, Nancy, it's really quite incredible. Obviously, we don't know
• 42:42
  Speaker 9: if there's a connection. But what we do know, of
• 42:45
  Speaker 9: course about the Hamptons is that there's a lot of
• 42:48
  Speaker 9: power and a lot of money. Sometimes that can create
• 42:51
  Speaker 9: a lot of drive and a lot of passion, maybe
• 42:54
  Speaker 9: people who feel like they're very used to getting their
• 42:56
  Speaker 9: own way. Also, Unfortunately, I've been to the Hamptons myself.
• 43:01
  Speaker 9: I've not participated in the drug culture there, but I
• 43:04
  Speaker 9: have witnessed it firsthand. We do know that things can
• 43:07
  Speaker 9: get very hot, very out of hand in the Hamptons,
• 43:10
  Speaker 9: so perhaps that we do have some foul play at
• 43:13
  Speaker 9: issue here.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: I've been there too normally.
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: When I was invited to speak for a charity, I
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: was totally a dog upstairs. You know, he knows he's
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: not supposed to be up there, but he's up there, right.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: He knows he's going to get in trouble for being there.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: That's what that felt like it wasn't just Sabina ted
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: am On the.
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: Hampton sees a murder investigation when ted Amman is found
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: beaten to death in his multimillion dollar mansion, just a
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: day before he was set to sign divorce papers with
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: wife gener Rosa, who had already moved on with high
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: school dropout and convicted felon Danny Pelosi. The couple Mary's
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: just three months later, Generosa and Pelosi already under suspicion
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: for a murder. Pelosi challenges Generosi's will and more.
• 44:03
  Speaker 14: On Emmon And it was that weekend that had had
• 44:06
  Speaker 14: to die because Monday the agreement was supposed to be
• 44:10
  Speaker 14: signed only one hundred times.
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: One hundred times maybe it's going to be happy, but
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: one hundred times he likes to kill a hud.
• 44:18
  Speaker 13: The person who committed the crime is the one that
• 44:22
  Speaker 13: took the hot drive out and disposed of it.
• 44:25
  Speaker 5: And who was that person?
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was definitely Danny Pelosi.
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: That from our friends at forty eight hours. What rich
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: people do for even more money? I mean Dan Murphy
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: homicide Detective that Starved Goldshields podcast. You know, it's a
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: whole nother mindset. What really wealthy people will do they'll
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: kill to get more money so that nobody, as they
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: perceive it, takes their money, or to cover up something
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: normally to do with money.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: It's it's hard to get into their heads.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, when it comes to money in greed, I've seen
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: people out of greed do things that they probably would
• 45:10
  Speaker 5: never have envisioned themselves doing. And there's also the desire
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: to hold onto or build upon a lifestyle that you want,
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: and this has driven many people to either hire someone
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: to kill somebody or to take it into their own hands.
• 45:22
  Speaker 5: This is not uncommon at all, and it's a motivating
• 45:25
  Speaker 5: factor from many people for homicide.
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: If you know or think you know anything about the
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: death of this beautiful young fashion designer found dead on
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: somebody's expensive yacht, please dial six' three to one eight
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: five two six three ninety six six' three one eight
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: five to two six three Nine Six nancy gray signing off.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: Goodbye friend