Latest / Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast / Episode 308: Identity (SG-A 5.18)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Get into Bloody Gate episode three hundred.
- 0:03Speaker 2: And eight talk an Sga mitched, Yes, I think I
- 0:09Speaker 2: was just an extra in a Born Identity movie.
- 0:12Speaker 1: In real life, Okay, I mean Matt Damon does frequent
- 0:17Speaker 1: the area.
- 0:18Speaker 3: Oh, this man was no Matt Damon. This man was
- 0:19Speaker 3: no Matt Damon.
- 0:20Speaker 2: But so I was waiting at the front for you
- 0:24Speaker 2: to come and get me, like in my car, just
- 0:26Speaker 2: in the waiting bay at the front to be able
- 0:27Speaker 2: to come down the side and be letting the garage.
- 0:29Speaker 2: And as you mess me to say you're on your
- 0:31Speaker 2: way down, and I've done a yuwi to sort of,
- 0:33Speaker 2: you know, come into the driveway here at the studio. Now,
- 0:37Speaker 2: it's what nine thirty in the morning. It's it's summer
- 0:40Speaker 2: here in Brisbane, so it's already like almost thirty degrees,
- 0:43Speaker 2: which is like over eighty degrees in Freedom units.
- 0:47Speaker 3: So it's warm. It's warm already for Freedom temperature.
- 0:50Speaker 2: Yeah, for this early in the morning, it's warm. As
- 0:53Speaker 2: I do a ui, there's a guy walking towards me
- 0:57Speaker 2: in long black jeans, a black shirt, a big heavy
- 1:02Speaker 2: black jacket with the hood pulled up over his head,
- 1:07Speaker 2: a backpack just on one shoulder, and like mirror aviators on,
- 1:14Speaker 2: just walking with head down, look like he's like he's
- 1:16Speaker 2: trying to like looking real Suss, looking real Sus. And
- 1:20Speaker 2: then he crosses the street, walks past the front of
- 1:22Speaker 2: the building as I do a UI and then pull
- 1:25Speaker 2: into the side driveway to wait for you to come
- 1:28Speaker 2: and get it. And then he walks past that and
- 1:30Speaker 2: he's just like sustling me out, like looking looking over
- 1:33Speaker 2: my car and then looking back, and then looking over
- 1:34Speaker 2: my car and looking back.
- 1:38Speaker 3: Something's going on, he's surveys.
- 1:40Speaker 2: Gotta be got something, either that or is some kind
- 1:43Speaker 2: of what's the Australian cia Asio.
- 1:47Speaker 1: That's it.
- 1:48Speaker 3: Something's going on. Something's going on.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Well, at least it was you, not me. I'm in
- 1:52Speaker 1: the clear, mate, although by now, by proxy, I mean
- 1:54Speaker 1: there's probably three cameras on me right now. They're hacked
- 1:55Speaker 1: into the system. Gat.
- 1:57Speaker 3: Oh yeah, my car is on some kind of watch
- 2:00Speaker 3: list now, I'm sure of it.
- 2:01Speaker 1: But to them, we say what we say to everyone,
- 2:04Speaker 1: great people, Get it Agate Episode three hundred and eight,
- 2:25Speaker 1: talking stargates at Atlantis. God, we are so close to
- 2:29Speaker 1: the end. This is kind of frightening for me as
- 2:31Speaker 1: a first time watcher. We're talking about identity. Mitch and
- 2:34Speaker 1: Maddie here.
- 2:36Speaker 3: Oh boy, sorry, I just took a bite to my
- 2:38Speaker 3: breakfast Brita.
- 2:39Speaker 1: You know what, let me do it too. Great. People
- 2:43Speaker 1: are gy Go money go if they want to sponsors.
- 2:46Speaker 1: I would love a sponsorship.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Bug was absolutely very popular when the American contingent we're
- 2:51Speaker 2: here a few months ago.
- 2:54Speaker 3: Gyg very popular. I think we went there two or
- 2:56Speaker 3: three times. Yeah, it's good gear.
- 2:59Speaker 2: And if it away knows like good, good Mexican food,
- 3:02Speaker 2: it's Los Angeles.
- 3:03Speaker 1: Absolutely. The pine is Yeah, identity, which is I was
- 3:08Speaker 1: going to go it's in the final disc, but no,
- 3:09Speaker 1: we're in the final disc. Last episode is the third
- 3:12Speaker 1: to last episode, episode number eighteen, of season five. Let's
- 3:16Speaker 1: rip into the old synopsis of the episode. Mattie described
- 3:18Speaker 1: me last week as a Keller epis old you do
- 3:24Speaker 1: just that. Doctor Jeffer Keller wakes to find her consciousness
- 3:27Speaker 1: inside the body of a notorious thief who has been
- 3:29Speaker 1: sentenced to death for her crime, which, of course doesn't
- 3:33Speaker 1: happen for probably eighteen minutes of the episode. She doesn't
- 3:36Speaker 1: wake up in the other woman's body. The woman wakes
- 3:38Speaker 1: up in her body and dead set stabs a linka
- 3:41Speaker 1: all before the opening credits.
- 3:42Speaker 2: It was a lot, you know on a Stargate thing,
- 3:44Speaker 2: because I thought you said Dr Jafferkeller absolutely didn't do that.
- 3:49Speaker 1: Maybe listening to your Star Wars shirt that you've got
- 3:51Speaker 1: your Star Trek shirt, that's one. Ah. I was trying
- 3:55Speaker 1: to cover it too. Oh I didn't really succeed.
- 4:03Speaker 3: Great guy, love match. Okay, what do you think?
- 4:07Speaker 1: Okay, now I'm just taking another. But this is so
- 4:10Speaker 1: annoying in an audio medium, you should never eat.
- 4:15Speaker 3: Well should we call it a muck bang?
- 4:17Speaker 1: Oh?
- 4:17Speaker 3: Sorry, what a muckbang?
- 4:19Speaker 1: A muckbang?
- 4:20Speaker 2: It's a Korean thing like the videos on YouTube where
- 4:22Speaker 2: they just sit down and they just eat and have
- 4:23Speaker 2: a conversation.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Interesting, it's totally it's a thing. Okay, yeah, I'll get
- 4:28Speaker 1: right onto it.
- 4:28Speaker 3: This is the muck Bang episode?
- 4:31Speaker 1: Well, yeah it was. I did obviously no going and
- 4:34Speaker 1: it was a Keller thing. I think I remembered that
- 4:36Speaker 1: you said it was a body swap thing, which within
- 4:38Speaker 1: ten or fifteen seconds I'm like, oh, that's right.
- 4:40Speaker 2: But surely I wouldn't have given away that was a
- 4:42Speaker 2: body swap.
- 4:45Speaker 1: Me give away anything, spoil anything, trying to look for
- 4:48Speaker 1: a way to say I can't remember, but my honest,
- 4:52Speaker 1: honest to god first thought you're gonna call me a pig.
- 4:55Speaker 1: But when it opened up and it's a zoom out
- 4:57Speaker 1: of like her eyes, and I'm like, oh shit, Laren,
- 5:02Speaker 1: but I thought it was with lighter hair. She I
- 5:05Speaker 1: feel like she looked similar enough, not identical, But in
- 5:09Speaker 1: that opening moment, I'm like, shit, this is Laren, mate,
- 5:11Speaker 1: what's going on here?
- 5:12Speaker 3: There's a reason the last four words and an identity
- 5:14Speaker 3: A titty.
- 5:16Speaker 1: There?
- 5:17Speaker 3: What the name of the episode is identity?
- 5:21Speaker 1: Right?
- 5:21Speaker 3: The reason the last fall letter is in identity tity?
- 5:25Speaker 1: Gotcha? Yeah? Sorry? Yeah, no, I yeah, I liked it.
- 5:30Speaker 1: It was I liked the the choice to have the
- 5:36Speaker 1: other actress, you know, the other actresses playing the alternative roles,
- 5:40Speaker 1: rather than having Duell State play this other character, like,
- 5:44Speaker 1: which would have been a bit of a shock. If
- 5:46Speaker 1: you turn this on and you have Keller just sort
- 5:47Speaker 1: of walking around just a little bit side and then
- 5:50Speaker 1: all of a sudden she picks up a tool and
- 5:52Speaker 1: stabs a Lenka in the in the stomach, You're like,
- 5:55Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on here?
- 5:57Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 5:57Speaker 1: And then her just you know, maybe you're thinking something
- 6:00Speaker 1: to do with that. But I also thought, are they
- 6:03Speaker 1: gonna get to the stage where they changed this up? Like,
- 6:06Speaker 1: now that the audience knows what's going on, are we
- 6:09Speaker 1: going to get to a point where they switch that
- 6:12Speaker 1: once the two characters are together. Maybe are they gonna
- 6:14Speaker 1: switch that and or even even switch it back again
- 6:18Speaker 1: and again depending on what we needed from the scenes.
- 6:21Speaker 1: So at the end, when one of them gets shot,
- 6:23Speaker 1: you actually don't know whether you're looking at the actual
- 6:27Speaker 1: body of the person who got shot or you looking
- 6:30Speaker 1: at the character personafides, you know, so we're looking at
- 6:33Speaker 1: this new actress and you're like, oh, it's fine, it's her,
- 6:37Speaker 1: but no, actually it's Juell. Like I like the way
- 6:41Speaker 1: that it.
- 6:41Speaker 2: Was done, Like I think it was done a little
- 6:43Speaker 2: bit better in like season nine of SG one when
- 6:47Speaker 2: Varla came back when she was pregnant in Daniel's body,
- 6:51Speaker 2: and like it opens with like Daniel like sasheting into
- 6:54Speaker 2: the men's locker room and like checking out cam and
- 6:56Speaker 2: he's like and list an audience, we're going, what's going
- 6:59Speaker 2: on here?
- 7:00Speaker 1: I liked that that was the way that both of
- 7:01Speaker 1: them took it, Like obviously this this thief chick, which
- 7:03Speaker 1: I don't even I did not even take notice of
- 7:05Speaker 1: her name. Oh god, her her Lara too, Neva, Neva neither,
- 7:11Speaker 1: I was God for nights. Good on you. Yeah, Neiva
- 7:16Speaker 1: comes to and is like, what the ship's going on? Okay,
- 7:18Speaker 1: just no, one's looking at me weird. Just assume normal behavior. Hey,
- 7:23Speaker 1: this person wants to take and check on me, I'll
- 7:24Speaker 1: go with them. Are you looking for this person? Yes?
- 7:27Speaker 1: I might be. Whereas clearly when Keller woke up in
- 7:30Speaker 1: that body, I guess with two other guys in a
- 7:33Speaker 1: dark room while I was raiding the joint, She's probably went,
- 7:36Speaker 1: what's going on here? Oh my god, I'm Jennifer Keller.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Where's the Atlantis team? I was in bed before or something?
- 7:41Speaker 1: You know, Like she wouldn't have hidden it so well,
- 7:44Speaker 1: which is why they found her in a jail. So
- 7:46Speaker 1: why we found her in a jail Celle as opposed
- 7:48Speaker 1: to old Love who kept the ruse up for quite
- 7:50Speaker 1: a while.
- 7:51Speaker 2: So yeah, because she's a she's a career you know, criminals, yeah,
- 7:56Speaker 2: professional liar yeah yeah.
- 7:58Speaker 1: So yeah, No, it's another like just case the week
- 8:01Speaker 1: type thing. I guess in hindsight, you're looking at this guy,
- 8:03Speaker 1: really like the the third last episode? Could there's not
- 8:06Speaker 1: have been the thirteenth last episode? Maybe to sort of
- 8:10Speaker 1: give not even give Kel. It's not like Juell State
- 8:12Speaker 1: was playing both roles, but it did give her a
- 8:16Speaker 1: little bit more onus on the story, I guess, And yeah,
- 8:21Speaker 1: it's not the third last fine, whatever, like get it
- 8:23Speaker 1: in there. And also I know that you've talked about
- 8:26Speaker 1: next week whatever Vegas is. That's what you've always said,
- 8:31Speaker 1: And I'm like, well, okay, so if this week feels
- 8:33Speaker 1: like it should have happened earlier in the season or
- 8:36Speaker 1: even in an earlier season, I mean, Kell has only
- 8:39Speaker 1: been around for you know, a season and a half,
- 8:41Speaker 1: two seasons at this point. But still fine. But then
- 8:45Speaker 1: going into next week is a bit of a dud episode.
- 8:49Speaker 2: Vegas never should have happened, happened in a different point
- 8:52Speaker 2: in the season.
- 8:53Speaker 3: It just never should have happened.
- 8:54Speaker 1: And I don't know much about like, actually, you know
- 8:58Speaker 1: what when we get there a little bit about the finale,
- 9:02Speaker 1: I've gone I mean, when did this when did it
- 9:05Speaker 1: wrap up? Fifteen years ago.
- 9:09Speaker 3: Two thousand and nine, so sixteen.
- 9:11Speaker 1: And a half years and nearly seventeen years ago, this
- 9:13Speaker 1: show wrapped up, and I've never known a thing about
- 9:16Speaker 1: it beyond having seen the pilot and knowing that Jason
- 9:19Speaker 1: Momoa was in it and at some point Carter plays
- 9:22Speaker 1: a role. That's all I've ever known before I sat
- 9:25Speaker 1: down to watch it for the podcast, and last week
- 9:27Speaker 1: I just in the reaction to the new series coming out,
- 9:33Speaker 1: I see something that I think is a pretty big
- 9:37Speaker 1: part of the fact, and I'm so filthy that I've
- 9:40Speaker 1: seen that. Anyway, moving on from that, just knowing that, well, again,
- 9:46Speaker 1: the feeling that I get around the finale is that
- 9:49Speaker 1: it's somewhat.
- 9:51Speaker 3: Anticlimactic question mark.
- 9:53Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe maybe Vegas is terrible or shouldn't
- 9:57Speaker 1: have happened, as you just said, and this one feels
- 9:59Speaker 1: like it should have happened earlier. It seems like a
- 10:04Speaker 1: very strange and I guess maybe that's a lingering feeling.
- 10:06Speaker 1: Feeling that a lot of fans have around SGA in
- 10:08Speaker 1: season five is that it didn't it didn't end maybe
- 10:11Speaker 1: like it should have.
- 10:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess from a sort of real world point
- 10:15Speaker 2: of view, I guess by the time, you know, obviously
- 10:19Speaker 2: we found out a couple of weeks ago that you know,
- 10:21Speaker 2: Giro and a few of the higher ups knew long
- 10:24Speaker 2: ago this was gonna be the final season.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Oh I knew. I just did donate.
- 10:27Speaker 2: But I guess from that point of view, once they
- 10:32Speaker 2: made the announcement, like they had to keep going as
- 10:34Speaker 2: if it was just another season. So I'm sure that
- 10:37Speaker 2: by the time it was all announced, it was probably
- 10:41Speaker 2: too late to you know, pull an ups because they
- 10:44Speaker 2: would have been prepp done, they would have been you know, scouting,
- 10:46Speaker 2: they would have been all, you know, all these you know,
- 10:48Speaker 2: pre production stuff would have been along, like a way along.
- 10:52Speaker 3: So maybe they just.
- 10:53Speaker 2: Wasn't enough time for you know, the creative team to
- 10:57Speaker 2: sort of go, oh, maybe we need to write something
- 10:58Speaker 2: different and maybe we've been this episode. Maybe we you know,
- 11:01Speaker 2: whatever we need to do there.
- 11:02Speaker 1: I mean, look, I having not seen Vegas, I don't
- 11:06Speaker 1: know whether there's anything that can relate to what has
- 11:09Speaker 1: come before or up. Like you're saying it shouldn't have happened.
- 11:12Speaker 1: I feel like you're saying that.
- 11:15Speaker 2: It's forty four minutes or something like that for a
- 11:19Speaker 2: three second reveal, right, every second piece of context, right.
- 11:24Speaker 1: Okay, Because in my head, I'm like, well, could they
- 11:25Speaker 1: not have just knowing that the season was going to
- 11:28Speaker 1: be its last of the series, could they not have
- 11:32Speaker 1: maybe put like, for me, having seen Infection last week,
- 11:35Speaker 1: I'm like, that felt like it was building to something.
- 11:37Speaker 1: You could have had that be the penultimate episode because
- 11:41Speaker 1: it was very much to do with the Raith, very
- 11:42Speaker 1: much to do with the cure thing, very much to
- 11:44Speaker 1: do with our relationship with some of the Wraith. You know,
- 11:47Speaker 1: we have Todd go off into the Stargate going, I'll
- 11:51Speaker 1: never forget that you spared me. Okay, I'm not going
- 11:54Speaker 1: to forget that we hate each other, but I'm honorable here.
- 11:58Speaker 1: That's potentially tea something right.
- 12:00Speaker 2: Honestly, one of the one of the crazy zombie Wraiths
- 12:04Speaker 2: could have done what we need to find out by
- 12:08Speaker 2: the end of Vegas, the beginning of Enemy at the Gate.
- 12:11Speaker 2: They could They could have written it into Infection, or
- 12:13Speaker 2: they could have on the on the cold open of
- 12:17Speaker 2: any in the Gate, they could have said that this
- 12:20Speaker 2: thing was happening, and they could have retroactively said like
- 12:24Speaker 2: in Reck Condon and said, oh, it happened during Infection.
- 12:27Speaker 1: Yeah that's so.
- 12:28Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, we'll definitely get into all that once we
- 12:30Speaker 2: get to those episodes.
- 12:32Speaker 3: Something and I found weird in this episode.
- 12:35Speaker 2: Well, I found multiple things weird, but I think the
- 12:37Speaker 2: weirdest thing with this is obviously this is I guess
- 12:40Speaker 2: the reintroduction of all that you know now I know
- 12:44Speaker 2: why this episode exists because of the Stones. It's it's
- 12:50Speaker 2: without giving too much a way.
- 12:52Speaker 1: To you, you've said that before.
- 12:55Speaker 2: I think this was the way for production to reintroduce
- 12:59Speaker 2: the Stone and remind everybody about the Stones so they
- 13:04Speaker 2: have something a little more recent when they start watching Universe.
- 13:10Speaker 2: That's all Oh shit, Okay, that's all same the Gate.
- 13:15Speaker 2: That's what I think it is, because that is a
- 13:20Speaker 2: not a huge element, but it is an element in Universe, right,
- 13:26Speaker 2: is needing to know about the communication Stones? Yeah, because
- 13:30Speaker 2: I remember watching Universe the first time and being very
- 13:34Speaker 2: confused about what I was seeing because it had been
- 13:36Speaker 2: a long time between watching this and when Universe came out,
- 13:40Speaker 2: because I don't think Universe ever showed on TV here
- 13:42Speaker 2: in Australia. I think I had to wait for the
- 13:44Speaker 2: DVDs to come out after the season.
- 13:47Speaker 1: Well, it's funny you say that because I talked about
- 13:50Speaker 1: it one of the previous podcasts. How We've got a
- 13:53Speaker 1: Samsung Plus free TV channel that's just a Stargate channel
- 13:57Speaker 1: that's been running the last couple of months. Really, I
- 14:00Speaker 1: don't know whether it's going to keep going or that
- 14:02Speaker 1: maybe it's already wrapped up. But I just know that
- 14:03Speaker 1: I saw the other day on like the homepage and
- 14:07Speaker 1: my TV and I could see Robert Carlisle there, and
- 14:09Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit. I in prior to that, I
- 14:12Speaker 1: had managed to turn it on when it was showing
- 14:15Speaker 1: the same SG one episode. I'm like, there are over
- 14:17Speaker 1: two hundred episodes, and then they play nearly one hundred
- 14:20Speaker 1: episodes of SGA and I just happen to turn it
- 14:23Speaker 1: on at birthright twice in the space of like a
- 14:27Speaker 1: week and a half. Like that seems crazy to me.
- 14:29Speaker 3: That feels like Foxtel back in the day exactly.
- 14:31Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah yeah. And or that they're only playing season
- 14:33Speaker 1: seven and then going to season four of SGA or
- 14:35Speaker 1: something and then back to season seven of SG one. No, no,
- 14:37Speaker 1: they were cycling through. But I turned it on the
- 14:39Speaker 1: other day and I just saw Robert Carlisle. I'm like,
- 14:41Speaker 1: holy shit, this is the first universe that I've seen.
- 14:45Speaker 1: Oh should I turn it on for just like a
- 14:47Speaker 1: minute just to even get like a minute's worth of
- 14:50Speaker 1: the aesthetic and I'm like, no, no, no, don't because it
- 14:53Speaker 1: could be season two, episode twelve.
- 14:55Speaker 3: I have no idea, absolutely, but.
- 14:56Speaker 1: Also I want to be surprised by the esthetic and
- 15:02Speaker 1: even the way that it's shot differently when I watch it,
- 15:06Speaker 1: rather than get a teen Yeah.
- 15:08Speaker 2: First, LLB Carlo, I believe is Jacob's favorite character from
- 15:11Speaker 2: from Universe. He actually a couple of years ago dressed
- 15:15Speaker 2: up with him for Halloween.
- 15:17Speaker 1: Oh cool, Yeah he did. He would have worked with
- 15:19Speaker 1: that with the heir.
- 15:19Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, doctor Rush is his name, I think, so, yeah,
- 15:23Speaker 2: he did.
- 15:23Speaker 1: Seems familiar evenough I haven't seen it, but it actually
- 15:25Speaker 1: does seem familiar to me. Yeah.
- 15:27Speaker 2: I remember when the Universe first came out and I
- 15:29Speaker 2: was like, what is the dude from the Full Monty
- 15:32Speaker 2: doing here? Yeah, because that's the only thing I think
- 15:34Speaker 2: I'd seen him in at that point. But yes, so
- 15:36Speaker 2: on the Communication Stones, Yeah, so I think that must
- 15:40Speaker 2: have been why this episode is what it was. But
- 15:45Speaker 2: then it's a little more inconsistency. So obviously, the first
- 15:49Speaker 2: time we're introduced to the Communication Stones is Citizen Joe,
- 15:53Speaker 2: and you find out Joe's been holding onto one and
- 15:55Speaker 2: he's been holding onto one, and just because of that
- 15:57Speaker 2: and the atagen, they're just getting a little flashes at
- 15:59Speaker 2: each other. Then we find out at the beginning of
- 16:02Speaker 2: season nine, if you put those stones into that big
- 16:05Speaker 2: pedestal thing, Daniel and Vla got transported to another galaxy
- 16:10Speaker 2: and put into the bodies of two other people. Those
- 16:14Speaker 2: two people essentially disappeared. Daniel and Valla were unconscious. Yeah,
- 16:19Speaker 2: they were unconscious, whereas now in this episode it's a
- 16:23Speaker 2: full blown body swap. So I mean they did kind
- 16:26Speaker 2: of buy it back where they say, like I think
- 16:29Speaker 2: the case is, oh, you know, we don't know much
- 16:30Speaker 2: about this technology.
- 16:31Speaker 3: We're still trying to figure out how to understand it.
- 16:32Speaker 3: Blah blah blah.
- 16:33Speaker 1: Hashtag ancients. Yeah explains everything.
- 16:35Speaker 2: But you know, these two were in the same galaxy.
- 16:40Speaker 2: They were both in the in the Pegasus galaxy. I mean,
- 16:43Speaker 2: whether that device is slightly different, I mean they've obviously
- 16:45Speaker 2: just reused the same prop from SG one, but yeah,
- 16:50Speaker 2: it's a little more inconsistency just in terms.
- 16:53Speaker 3: Of Harod and Sallas.
- 16:57Speaker 2: Why were they unconscious in Daniel and Valla bodies or
- 17:01Speaker 2: you know, and all that kind of thing. So that
- 17:04Speaker 2: was a little frustrating. Yeah, but but yeah, I've just
- 17:08Speaker 2: realized that now. Yeah, that's absolutely why why this episode
- 17:12Speaker 2: was what it was interesting. And he's so close to
- 17:13Speaker 2: the end of the end of the season. Weirdly, when
- 17:18Speaker 2: Keller was acting all all strange and stuff like that,
- 17:20Speaker 2: they're like, oh, we need to wait till Beckett gets
- 17:23Speaker 2: back to check her out.
- 17:25Speaker 1: Yeah, did they not?
- 17:26Speaker 2: Really? Keller is not the only doctor, she's just the
- 17:28Speaker 2: chief doctor.
- 17:30Speaker 1: When she yeah, when when she clearly sorry is Eva
- 17:35Speaker 1: Neva and she's got you know, she I mean good
- 17:41Speaker 1: walk around with the awareness to hold her gloves up.
- 17:44Speaker 3: She's just copying everyone else in the room, going, I
- 17:46Speaker 3: guess this is what we do.
- 17:46Speaker 1: I saw this on my planet's grazing out of it
- 17:49Speaker 1: and she's standing with it with the scalpel, and she's like,
- 17:52Speaker 1: I'm going to go lay down now. And I'm like,
- 17:54Speaker 1: everyone's looking at you like you're the only person who
- 17:56Speaker 1: can do this. Yeah, so you you have to do it.
- 17:59Speaker 3: Someone else obviously finished that operator.
- 18:01Speaker 1: Can you take over? And someone's like yeah, easy, And
- 18:03Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, so they've yeah, they've got people. But
- 18:06Speaker 1: it was also just like, oh, let's just bring back
- 18:08Speaker 1: it in for this, like you guys can do that
- 18:10Speaker 1: as a show, Like you killed him off and yet
- 18:12Speaker 1: you've brought him back but kept him on the sidelines
- 18:14Speaker 1: to bring back whenever you want. And Yeah, I'm consistently,
- 18:17Speaker 1: like I've been saying a bunch, I'm consistently surprised with
- 18:20Speaker 1: how much that doesn't piss me off.
- 18:22Speaker 3: I just thought it was weird. I was just like,
- 18:24Speaker 3: why beck It?
- 18:25Speaker 2: Like it's great to see beck It, even though he's
- 18:26Speaker 2: fake clone Becker, but it's just like what and then
- 18:31Speaker 2: this is a bit of a nitpick. How would either
- 18:33Speaker 2: have found Keller's room? Yeah, She's like, I'm gonna go
- 18:36Speaker 2: lie down.
- 18:37Speaker 1: Yeah, because I thought it was weird enough. She had
- 18:38Speaker 1: directions to get to the that was weird. And I'll
- 18:41Speaker 1: just get so turned around in you I'm looking for
- 18:43Speaker 1: a jumper. Yeah, he goes to that way and the transporters,
- 18:46Speaker 1: the transported of course, I'm like that guy he just
- 18:50Speaker 1: looked up like, ah, yeah, weirdo. I'm like, come on, man,
- 18:54Speaker 1: there's enough weird shit that goes on in this place.
- 18:56Speaker 2: Measure that was Cavnar would be like typing an email
- 18:58Speaker 2: and the walls line, maybe.
- 19:00Speaker 1: Following her, he'd be taking weird photos over she's a
- 19:02Speaker 1: cool and you're what, I'd respect him for it, because
- 19:05Speaker 1: that's what that guy should have done. Like there is enough.
- 19:07Speaker 1: Literally last week was it or two weeks ago where
- 19:11Speaker 1: we had the weird aliens take over the people in
- 19:14Speaker 1: their minds projectionable friends. So now, like maybe not everyone
- 19:17Speaker 1: knew about that, but I mean, come on, it's weird.
- 19:23Speaker 2: Speaking of that episode, obviously, we had that episode where
- 19:26Speaker 2: we had the invisible lady who was Wolsey's what are they?
- 19:30Speaker 2: What was the phrase they use ideal sexual or romantic? Well,
- 19:36Speaker 2: obviously in this episode, we know what yours is funny.
- 19:38Speaker 3: If we don't live soon, we're not going to get
- 19:40Speaker 3: a good seat.
- 19:41Speaker 1: Almost the first Bone movie, I get stuck sitting behind
- 19:46Speaker 1: Ron and again like last week, I know what popcorn
- 19:50Speaker 1: is going to be gone.
- 19:51Speaker 2: I mean a person that looks like duel State, wanting
- 19:55Speaker 2: to hurry to get to the movie the Doctor, The Doctor,
- 19:59Speaker 2: no Bond movie, and also craving popcorn.
- 20:03Speaker 3: I mean, if that's not your ideal woman right there.
- 20:06Speaker 1: In real time, we've been talking about doing a Bond podcast.
- 20:10Speaker 1: Literally we recorded like a teaser episode four years ago.
- 20:15Speaker 1: It was It was actually October twenty twenty one.
- 20:18Speaker 3: I have no memory of that.
- 20:19Speaker 1: Maybe late late it was ether late September or early
- 20:22Speaker 1: you know what. I think. I actually got back from
- 20:24Speaker 1: my mum's birthday September nineteen. I feel like it was
- 20:26Speaker 1: around her birthday dinner and we got back. We recorded,
- 20:29Speaker 1: and I didn't even post it until like New Year's Eve,
- 20:33Speaker 1: and said, we're gonna do this, right, We're gonna watch
- 20:35Speaker 1: these Bond movies. Because it was leaving up to the
- 20:38Speaker 1: release of No No, I was gonna say Skyfall, not Scuffule,
- 20:43Speaker 1: No Time to Die came out. Oh no, it wasn't
- 20:47Speaker 1: the lead when we recorded it was yeah, but no
- 20:50Speaker 1: today I had just come out. When I posted it
- 20:52Speaker 1: was in November. So you're right, actually, yes, yes, correct.
- 20:55Speaker 2: Because you have to have some kind of real world
- 20:57Speaker 2: event to attach a podcast too.
- 20:59Speaker 1: Obviously.
- 21:00Speaker 2: Well, if this new Bond movie is going to be
- 21:02Speaker 2: coming out in six months, we've got six months to
- 21:05Speaker 2: get high pitched to watch every single Bond.
- 21:07Speaker 1: Yes, that was that.
- 21:08Speaker 2: That was four years and I'm not allowed. I'm not
- 21:11Speaker 2: allowed to watch the Bond.
- 21:12Speaker 1: I only bring that up because you haven't been allowed
- 21:17Speaker 1: because we would be starting with I think when we
- 21:19Speaker 1: started doing the we did the teaser episode of the
- 21:21Speaker 1: announcement pot we were going to utilize the fact that
- 21:26Speaker 1: no time that I was in cinemas, I was going
- 21:28Speaker 1: to make you watch all the Craig films. So the
- 21:29Speaker 1: five Craig films. Yeah, then go back and do it
- 21:32Speaker 1: from your st.
- 21:35Speaker 2: To watch Star Trek, to watch Voyager, probably before I
- 21:37Speaker 2: get you to watch the original.
- 21:38Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, because otherwise I think I'd lose you with
- 21:41Speaker 1: the early stuff. And then maybe right at the end,
- 21:44Speaker 1: watch the vague ones again and see if you go. Okay.
- 21:47Speaker 1: I like the modern ones more for being modern and
- 21:49Speaker 1: effects and the way things are stylized and aesthetically looking
- 21:52Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. But I respect some more
- 21:54Speaker 1: of the story stuff in there because I've seen where
- 21:57Speaker 1: it came from. Yeah.
- 21:58Speaker 3: I like in the old ones how they'd slap women.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Obviously, that's what I'm talking about that didn't happen. And
- 22:03Speaker 1: the reason why we haven't pushed on is because once
- 22:06Speaker 1: that passed, once a couple of months went past, and
- 22:08Speaker 1: it's like, okay, watching the Craig films now, that idea
- 22:11Speaker 1: is gone. I now want to go back to my
- 22:12Speaker 1: original plan of you watching the very first bond it
- 22:15Speaker 1: would be Doctor No. And I don't want you to
- 22:18Speaker 1: watch that by yourself. Well, at least at the time
- 22:20Speaker 1: I didn't for like two three years. I didn't want
- 22:23Speaker 1: you to because I thought you would take because you
- 22:25Speaker 1: will watch a movie that I really like and that
- 22:28Speaker 1: you're vaguely interested in, and you're like, oh, it took
- 22:31Speaker 1: me five six watches to get through it. I want
- 22:34Speaker 1: you to watch these things from start to finish. And
- 22:37Speaker 1: doctor know because it was from nineteen sixty two. It
- 22:40Speaker 1: is very slow at times, and the way that films
- 22:43Speaker 1: are shot back then, where it's just like one camera
- 22:45Speaker 1: set up in the back of the room and we
- 22:46Speaker 1: just panned from right to left and then back to
- 22:48Speaker 1: right again. I love you, yeah, and they don't really.
- 22:52Speaker 1: It's like watching a theater player as opposed to now
- 22:54Speaker 1: having se many different cameras and close ups and blah
- 22:55Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. So now I'm kind of in
- 22:59Speaker 1: the headspace. I'm like, I just I think the gold
- 23:01Speaker 1: will be you watching it, and we go into record
- 23:03Speaker 1: a pod. You me Emma sit down and talk about
- 23:06Speaker 1: Doctor No. And you got. Honestly, guys, it took me
- 23:08Speaker 1: two weeks to get through this movie. I watched eight
- 23:10Speaker 1: minutes at a time. But you know, but that's the
- 23:12Speaker 1: part of the reaction. Why would I try to make
- 23:14Speaker 1: you do it in a way that you don't, because
- 23:16Speaker 1: then that's not natural. So while I'm going to get
- 23:18Speaker 1: the worst, I.
- 23:19Speaker 3: Would pause it halfway through, go and take a shit,
- 23:21Speaker 3: and then come back.
- 23:22Speaker 1: Yea, yeah, So that's behind the scenes of that podcast
- 23:26Speaker 1: I did. Even when it ever happened. I did get in.
- 23:27Speaker 2: Trouble once because I sent it to the group chat
- 23:29Speaker 2: of you, Me and Emma, where I turned off Netflix
- 23:32Speaker 2: or something like that and went back to Free to
- 23:33Speaker 2: Wear TV.
- 23:34Speaker 3: And the one Bond movie that I'm really.
- 23:36Speaker 2: Excited to watch, Yes, and I still can't remember what
- 23:39Speaker 2: you've told me ten times, the one where the white
- 23:41Speaker 2: Lotus drives off the cliff and turns into a submarine.
- 23:45Speaker 2: That scene was playing, so I like recorded it and
- 23:48Speaker 2: said it to you, guys, and you were like, turn
- 23:50Speaker 2: that off immediately.
- 23:51Speaker 3: I will not have it. And I watched maybe five
- 23:54Speaker 3: minutes of it.
- 23:55Speaker 1: But you're right. Last week I remember you saying to me, Oh,
- 23:58Speaker 1: there's a movie franchise that comes out. And what did
- 24:00Speaker 1: I say? I went Lord of the Rings? Are you
- 24:03Speaker 1: sure it was going to be Lord of the Rings?
- 24:05Speaker 1: I did not think it was bond at all.
- 24:08Speaker 3: So everyone, I don't always spoil fee.
- 24:11Speaker 1: So the idea that she's like, oh it's doctor No,
- 24:14Speaker 1: it's the first bob like she's watched that before. She
- 24:17Speaker 1: loves it, she respects it. It's probably a thing with
- 24:19Speaker 1: maybe her and her dad, and it to hold a
- 24:21Speaker 1: special place in her heart. And now she wants to
- 24:23Speaker 1: share that with Rodney, and she also wants to get
- 24:25Speaker 1: there in time to eat her body weight in popcorn.
- 24:28Speaker 1: So yes, I respect Jennifer Keller even more than I
- 24:32Speaker 1: probably before this.
- 24:33Speaker 3: This is a little present to you.
- 24:34Speaker 2: I just want you to close your eyes and I'm
- 24:35Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna patch you a mental picture with my imagination.
- 24:39Speaker 2: Rish Okay, you've got one dual State Cirker two thousand
- 24:43Speaker 2: and eight dressed in her you know Keller outfit right,
- 24:48Speaker 2: no undershirt, so it's just the jacket over the top,
- 24:50Speaker 2: zip down.
- 24:51Speaker 3: A little bit lower than it should be.
- 24:53Speaker 2: And she's just she's just got a big bucket of
- 24:56Speaker 2: popcorn and she just puts one in her mouth and
- 24:58Speaker 2: then she bites the lip and she gar oh doctor, no,
- 25:01Speaker 2: let's go watch.
- 25:02Speaker 3: Doctor know uh huh it's that scene.
- 25:05Speaker 2: Then it cuts to that scene where you're the guy
- 25:07Speaker 2: from Scary movie where he just plasses into your friends
- 25:09Speaker 2: with the ceiling.
- 25:11Speaker 3: Yeah, that's you.
- 25:13Speaker 2: Couple of other things before we go a little bit
- 25:15Speaker 2: trivia for you. This is the fourth episode of the
- 25:19Speaker 2: entire series to not mention or have a wraith be seen.
- 25:25Speaker 1: Interesting, So the other.
- 25:26Speaker 2: One's being the Return part two when the when the
- 25:31Speaker 2: Ancients returned and they were in that in the ship
- 25:34Speaker 2: and then the the replicators took over and killed them
- 25:39Speaker 2: all that that one a drift when the opening of
- 25:43Speaker 2: season four with when Carter was introduced and we're a
- 25:46Speaker 2: drift in space yep trio when it's Carter, Keller and
- 25:50Speaker 2: Mackay are in under the ground. And this one that's
- 25:53Speaker 2: the only four episodes of the entire series with.
- 25:55Speaker 1: That is mental because when you first said that, I
- 25:56Speaker 1: think you met the season. I'm like, oh wow, no,
- 25:58Speaker 1: the series is I actually would have said it would
- 26:02Speaker 1: have been more than that. That's crazy to me.
- 26:05Speaker 2: Yeah, So no mention or visible wraith in it in
- 26:08Speaker 2: any any part of which is weird. You think, like
- 26:11Speaker 2: the whole Neva in her little group, you think may
- 26:13Speaker 2: be you know, on the run from the Wraith or
- 26:15Speaker 2: trying you know, no mention of.
- 26:17Speaker 1: It, because you think even if you had the amount
- 26:19Speaker 1: of of s G one episodes or you put them
- 26:22Speaker 1: in like hey, let's give you, yeah, seasons one through
- 26:24Speaker 1: five and then season six through ten, the number, it's
- 26:28Speaker 1: a bit unfair because seasons nine and ten were more
- 26:30Speaker 1: aw r than they were gooled obviously, but you think
- 26:33Speaker 1: about the amount of episodes that did not involve a
- 26:36Speaker 1: guld Yeah, any any yeah, and mentioned in any description
- 26:39Speaker 1: it would have, it'd be quadruple that.
- 26:42Speaker 2: Actually, ware, I'd love to I'd love to find that
- 26:44Speaker 2: that trigger find that, Yeah, find those stats.
- 26:46Speaker 1: I mean, I guess that was normal, that that was normal.
- 26:48Speaker 1: Atlantis isn't normally. Atlanta's sort have broke that mold of
- 26:51Speaker 1: going no, let's these are the bad guys. Let's make
- 26:53Speaker 1: them the ongoing thing. Let's always have them as a
- 26:56Speaker 1: lingering threat.
- 26:56Speaker 2: So kind of yeah, with as so many episodes where
- 26:58Speaker 2: it's like, well, i mean the end of season one,
- 26:59Speaker 2: it was just four episodes of the raither a on.
- 27:01Speaker 1: Their way up.
- 27:02Speaker 3: The ship's coming. It's still coming.
- 27:04Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 27:05Speaker 2: And the other one is someone did apparently translate Zelinka's
- 27:09Speaker 2: rant at the end being wheeled.
- 27:11Speaker 1: Away Brandan when that happened, like it's usually those moments
- 27:14Speaker 1: where he said he would have Banana decipher it for us.
- 27:17Speaker 2: So apparently as Zelinka said, up, maybe I should stab him.
- 27:20Speaker 2: That would be for the best, this way we would
- 27:22Speaker 2: and then it gets cussed off. He gains I've had
- 27:24Speaker 2: enough of this as he's being wheeled away. So that
- 27:25Speaker 2: was what Link was ranting is.
- 27:27Speaker 1: I'm just got they actually got wheeled out. He's like,
- 27:28Speaker 1: do you want to be wheeled out? He's like, just
- 27:29Speaker 1: until Rodney's gone. I'm like, well, he doesn't mean that,
- 27:32Speaker 1: And then he was getting pushed out away. What a
- 27:34Speaker 1: lot of effort to go to, Like Rodney won there.
- 27:36Speaker 1: Rodney gets to stay there with his girlfriend and old
- 27:38Speaker 1: mates pissed off, and he's the one that's got to leave.
- 27:40Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, so well done win again.
- 27:43Speaker 2: And I think, you know, had the show gone on,
- 27:45Speaker 2: I think they left. I think they intentionally left that
- 27:47Speaker 2: death of neither at the end and bigious enough to
- 27:49Speaker 2: sort of you know, bring her back if they.
- 27:51Speaker 3: Wanted to, yes, but they're also not going to show
- 27:53Speaker 3: her to get blown away.
- 27:53Speaker 1: I guess no. But it didn't. It didn't. It didn't
- 27:56Speaker 1: look like it was going to work out because when
- 27:59Speaker 1: she got shot, I'm like, usually those moments you're like, yeah,
- 28:01Speaker 1: well you've deserved it. As an audience member, where is
- 28:04Speaker 1: in that moment? I'm like, ah, you were clearly a
- 28:06Speaker 1: bad guy, like a thief. But and while you did
- 28:10Speaker 1: some things that put members of our team at risk
- 28:14Speaker 1: and you were thinking for yourself, you kind of should
- 28:17Speaker 1: be you know, like, yeah, granted the moment where your
- 28:19Speaker 1: life is at risk or the fact that you've had
- 28:22Speaker 1: your body swap, like, you're probably going to panic at moments.
- 28:25Speaker 1: So I'm not judging you for the decisions she made.
- 28:27Speaker 1: And it's not even like she ever walked in to
- 28:29Speaker 1: there and said, oh i'm her, she's me lock her
- 28:33Speaker 1: up or beat the shit out of her shooter because
- 28:35Speaker 1: it won't make a difference once we turn the machine off.
- 28:37Speaker 1: She was kind of like, yeah, hey, yeah, she's telling
- 28:39Speaker 1: the truth. Yeah yeah, And so like you know, she
- 28:43Speaker 1: was a pseudo antagonist, but also not really so for
- 28:47Speaker 1: the fact that she got point blank shot in the head.
- 28:50Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't have that was deserved. But the
- 28:53Speaker 1: fact that we didn't see it absolutely like she's she's
- 28:55Speaker 1: out there to be, you know, written into a canon
- 28:58Speaker 1: comic book set six months later.
- 29:00Speaker 3: You know who needs ahead with what you're going to
- 29:02Speaker 3: do to the rest of her corpse.
- 29:03Speaker 2: So with that, with that disgusting something, well, I see,
- 29:07Speaker 2: that's not as bad as when I heard the other day.
- 29:09Speaker 2: It's someone was talking about the comedian Joel Kimbooster comedityan
- 29:14Speaker 2: he goes, he is so attractive, I would cut him
- 29:17Speaker 2: up and have sex with the pieces.
- 29:19Speaker 1: Okay, so you know, yep, can't ever been that attracted
- 29:23Speaker 1: to someone before. And I hope that is the most
- 29:26Speaker 1: respectful thing.
- 29:27Speaker 2: It doesn't creak me out when people have those weird
- 29:29Speaker 2: like you know, like the weird latex torso where it's
- 29:31Speaker 2: like just like a woman's torsover just from like next time.
- 29:34Speaker 1: I would appreciate team I don't search for that ship,
- 29:37Speaker 1: so i'd appreciate if team who didn't occasionally sort of
- 29:39Speaker 1: throw it. I'll get an ad on t On on
- 29:42Speaker 1: Instagram for TAMU and then its cycles. You know, quickly.
- 29:46Speaker 2: They're like, oh, you're a white man in Australia, you
- 29:48Speaker 2: absolutely want one of these.
- 29:49Speaker 3: Based on the face.
- 29:51Speaker 1: Because it's such a small photo, I like zoom in
- 29:53Speaker 1: and go, what the hell is that I've clicked in,
- 29:55Speaker 1: going it does not look anything like it, And then
- 29:58Speaker 1: you'll open it up. You'll be like, this is a
- 30:00Speaker 1: sex pillow and I'm like, really, it looked like you
- 30:03Speaker 1: had a weird like bean bag or something or some
- 30:06Speaker 1: kind of like weirdly shaped sort of heat blanket. But
- 30:09Speaker 1: because I've clicked on it, all of a sudden, it's like,
- 30:11Speaker 1: do you want something else?
- 30:12Speaker 3: You creep?
- 30:13Speaker 2: Yeah, no, and then it's like, oh, if you want
- 30:16Speaker 2: a real human size one, eight hundred dollars, but if
- 30:20Speaker 2: you want one that's suspiciously only the size of the
- 30:23Speaker 2: head torso yeah, that's like three quarters the size. So
- 30:27Speaker 2: it seems like it's a child's body that'll only cost
- 30:29Speaker 2: you fifty bucks.
- 30:30Speaker 1: I'm like, or if you spin the wheel, you'll get
- 30:32Speaker 1: it for eight dollars free with free shipping. And I'm like, no,
- 30:35Speaker 1: thank you, no, thank you. I like my sexual partners
- 30:38Speaker 1: alive and with heads and you know other body parts
- 30:42Speaker 1: that well.
- 30:42Speaker 2: As we established on this podcast, you like a bit
- 30:44Speaker 2: of role playing you can't roll play with a headless Torso.
- 30:46Speaker 2: You know, headless headless Torso can't pin you up against
- 30:49Speaker 2: the wall and tell you sort of fantasies.
- 30:52Speaker 1: I have mate weird characters.
- 30:54Speaker 3: Go watch Heated Rivalry. I'll tell you.
- 30:56Speaker 1: Look, I'll to the list. My list is extensive, I said,
- 31:02Speaker 1: list that is episode three ap back.
- 31:05Speaker 2: Yeah, Sarah might make you the Shane. She'll be the
- 31:07Speaker 2: Illia and you'll be the Shane. Anyone who's been watching
- 31:10Speaker 2: Heated Rivalry well know exactly.
- 31:12Speaker 1: I can only imagine what you're unferring. Vegas can't wait
- 31:16Speaker 1: to do this because Maddie really can wait wait for
- 31:19Speaker 1: it to be over. What a time for you to
- 31:20Speaker 1: not show up for the podcast. I mean, considerate, if considerate.
- 31:25Speaker 2: If Brendan had stayed this season, I absolutely wouldn't have
- 31:29Speaker 2: been here.
- 31:29Speaker 1: For it and make him a written directed by Robert C.
- 31:31Speaker 1: Coopy said it was him right and directed that. Yeah direct,
- 31:34Speaker 1: And you said to me like last week, you're like,
- 31:36Speaker 1: I've watched ahead. I listened to the commentary. I actually
- 31:38Speaker 1: couldn't even make it all the way.
- 31:40Speaker 3: Through it to get eight minutes of the commentary, and
- 31:42Speaker 3: it went last too short. Get into the geek, get
- 31:47Speaker 3: into gate.
- 31:50Speaker 1: Get into the gate Stargate podcast.
- 31:53Speaker 3: Get into it now before it's too late.