Latest / Kvetch & Release / Checking Washington into the Boards: Liedtke Debunks the U.S. Embassy’s “Election Interference” Claims
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Right now, though, it is time for another edition of
- 0:03Speaker 1: Letge's Got a Take. Good morning, John. Good morning, Gene. So,
- 0:08Speaker 1: you know, we were texting back and forth, you and me, yesterday.
- 0:12Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, you sent me an email.
- 0:15Speaker 1: And I got the link to this official U.S. government
- 0:19Speaker 1: site set up by Pete Hawksborough, the U.S. ambassador to Canada.
- 0:24Speaker 1: And basically, he was telling Canada, stop interfering in our elections.
- 0:29Speaker 1: There were quotes from the Prime Minister, from Doug Ford,
- 0:31Speaker 1: from Melanie Jolie, and the list of a whole 12 people, Canadians,
- 0:37Speaker 1: who were busted because they voted illegally in a U.S. election.
- 0:42Speaker 1: And I'm sure that probably... Had a big factor in
- 0:46Speaker 1: the outcome, 12 people. It's quite the sight, and it's
- 0:49Speaker 1: incredibly insulting. Now, Litke, the U.S. Embassy claims Canadian counter-tariff
- 0:55Speaker 1: targeting specific U.S. states are election interference. Now, Canadian leaders
- 1:01Speaker 1: say that's just standard trade retaliation. What's your take?
- 1:05Speaker 2: You know, Gene, Washington started this trade war, and the
- 1:08Speaker 2: purpose of it was to crush us economically, to annex us,
- 1:12Speaker 2: to make us the 51st state. Now they're whining because
- 1:16Speaker 2: of counter-tariffs and how they hurt. Get real. I'm sorry.
- 1:21Speaker 2: And I'm sorry that they have congressional elections. every two years.
- 1:24Speaker 2: So no matter what we do, we'll always be able
- 1:27Speaker 2: to be put through a prism as interfering in an election.
- 1:29Speaker 2: But I don't buy it. A guy punches you at
- 1:31Speaker 2: a bar, you elbow him in the ribs and he
- 1:33Speaker 2: calls the bouncer. Come on, that's a coward behavior. That's
- 1:36Speaker 2: bully behavior. We didn't start this. We are strapped in though.
- 1:39Speaker 2: So sorry of defending steel and auto jobs, inconveniences of
- 1:43Speaker 2: Michigan midterm. But what did they expect? We're not going
- 1:46Speaker 2: to turn the cheek. You push a Canadian, we're going
- 1:49Speaker 2: to check you into the boards.
- 1:50Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, there is a double standard here. The U.S.
- 1:54Speaker 1: warns Canada to keep its, and I quote, nose out
- 1:57Speaker 1: of American politics, while President Trump calls Canadian leaders governor,
- 2:03Speaker 1: and the U.S. State Department meets with Alberta separatist leaders
- 2:06Speaker 1: multiple times, and had planned to meet with a Parti
- 2:10Speaker 1: Quebecois official. So how do you view that?
- 2:14Speaker 2: I view what the United States is doing as pure projection.
- 2:18Speaker 2: American pressure used to be subtle. Trump threw subtle into
- 2:22Speaker 2: the trash. He screams it into his megaphone, or more aptly,
- 2:27Speaker 2: he tweets it out on his platform, calls our prime ministers, governors,
- 2:32Speaker 2: threatens to make us the 51st state. This is a
- 2:35Speaker 2: man who acts like he's a cheesy 80s movie villain
- 2:39Speaker 2: who belongs on a ski hill trying to take away
- 2:42Speaker 2: the kid's winter vacation. The State Department hosts tea parties
- 2:46Speaker 2: these days with Alberta separatists and even, you know, sets
- 2:51Speaker 2: up meetings that would be canceled with Quebec separatists. But
- 2:54Speaker 2: if Doug Ford buys an anti-terror fad with a Ronald
- 2:57Speaker 2: Reagan quote, Washington cries foreign meddling. This is hilarious. They
- 3:01Speaker 2: dish it out, but they can't take it back. So
- 3:03Speaker 2: don't fight the North if you can't handle the cold.
- 3:06Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, there's an interesting fact that we should
- 3:08Speaker 1: talk about here. Data shows over half of the give-send-go
- 3:13Speaker 1: donations to the Ottawa convoy came from the U.S. In fact,
- 3:18Speaker 1: it prompted new FinTrack rules. So should foreign money be
- 3:21Speaker 1: allowed in domestic protests?
- 3:24Speaker 2: Foreign money should not be able to cross any of
- 3:26Speaker 2: our borders from coast to coast to coast and the
- 3:28Speaker 2: land border with the United States whatsoever, period. This is
- 3:32Speaker 2: domestic interference. An American stands in the snow with a sign,
- 3:37Speaker 2: go for it. That's free expression. But using dark money,
- 3:40Speaker 2: untraceable crypto, wire transfers, funding illegal blockades at the Ambassador
- 3:45Speaker 2: Bridge and helping the convoy in Ottawa, and in Coutts
- 3:49Speaker 2: as well, I mean, that's foreign financial intervention. And if
- 3:52Speaker 2: Beijing can't buy a Canadian election, Washington shouldn't be able
- 3:56Speaker 2: to fund Canadian blockades.
- 3:59Speaker 1: Okay, so... Former U.S. President Barack Obama endorsed former Prime
- 4:04Speaker 1: Minister Katy Perry's boyfriend. So is a president weighing in
- 4:08Speaker 1: on a foreign election acceptable, or is that interference, or
- 4:11Speaker 1: does it even matter?
- 4:13Speaker 2: I don't think any former president or current president should
- 4:17Speaker 2: weigh in on our elections. I don't think any political
- 4:21Speaker 2: operatives from outside of our country should be weighing in.
- 4:24Speaker 2: But of course, you know, they have free speech for sure.
- 4:26Speaker 2: And Obama is able to tweet from the couch and
- 4:29Speaker 2: Trump is able to tweet from the golf course. But
- 4:32Speaker 2: legal doesn't necessarily mean smart. This is soft interference. If
- 4:36Speaker 2: a sitting leader uses state resources to cut an ad,
- 4:40Speaker 2: of course, that crosses a line. But What we're talking
- 4:43Speaker 2: about here, politicians should recognize that they should stop. They
- 4:46Speaker 2: wouldn't want it reciprocated back towards them. It muddies the water,
- 4:50Speaker 2: and quite frankly, I find it redundant. We already know
- 4:54Speaker 2: who Washington likes in Ottawa today, just like we knew
- 4:57Speaker 2: who Washington liked when Obama was in office. We don't
- 5:00Speaker 2: need a tweet to figure out the family tree.
- 5:02Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I remember when Barack Obama visited Ottawa
- 5:06Speaker 1: while he was president, and he addressed the House of Commons.
- 5:11Speaker 1: And at the end of his speech, members from all
- 5:14Speaker 1: parties started shouting four more years, four more years. You know,
- 5:19Speaker 1: nobody made a big deal about that. So that's interesting.
- 5:23Speaker 1: Long-term strategy, though, John, with trade wars and political friction escalating,
- 5:28Speaker 1: how should Canadian leaders navigate this relationship moving forward? Because
- 5:32Speaker 1: it is a very important relationship, and it was right
- 5:36Speaker 1: up until Donald Trump.
- 5:38Speaker 2: The United States remains and will continue to remain the
- 5:42Speaker 2: most important relationship with Canada, regardless of the tumultuous relationship
- 5:46Speaker 2: that we have right now. And I certainly don't expect
- 5:48Speaker 2: things to bounce back to the way things were under
- 5:52Speaker 2: a new administration, regardless whether or not it will be
- 5:54Speaker 2: Republican or Democrat. You know, how to navigate it today?
- 5:59Speaker 2: Walk softly and carry a big stick. And, you know,
- 6:02Speaker 2: quite frankly, spy rules apply. Moscow rules are watch your back.
- 6:06Speaker 2: British rules are cover your backside. Canadian rules today, make
- 6:11Speaker 2: sure people respect your boundaries or make them terrified to
- 6:13Speaker 2: cross them. We have to survive these friction years. We've
- 6:17Speaker 2: got to hold our ground. We have to wait for
- 6:19Speaker 2: a rational counterpart. And anyone expecting a reset button, that's dreaming.
- 6:24Speaker 2: The cozy, border-free fairy tale, that's dead. And rebuilding trust
- 6:28Speaker 2: is going to take generations, so we need to hold firm.
- 6:32Speaker 1: Hey, let's have some fun here. If you had 30 seconds,
- 6:35Speaker 1: like a radio commercial, to speak directly to everyday Americans
- 6:40Speaker 1: across the border in places like Michigan, Ohio, or New
- 6:43Speaker 1: York State, what would your message be? I can't wait
- 6:46Speaker 1: for this.
- 6:48Speaker 2: Americans, my name is John. Stop fighting with your Canadian family.
- 6:53Speaker 2: This brawl is a terrible Thanksgiving dinner. Two drunk uncles
- 6:57Speaker 2: screaming over the turkey. The rest of us are standing
- 7:00Speaker 2: out on the back porch in the freezing cold, having
- 7:02Speaker 2: a smoke, waiting for the yelling to stop so we
- 7:04Speaker 2: can finally eat some pie. Let's cut this nonsense. We're
- 7:07Speaker 2: in the interregnum right now between the Canadian and the
- 7:09Speaker 2: American Thanksgivings. Let's get back to business as good neighbors.
- 7:13Speaker 2: Let's pass that pie. And the pie in this case
- 7:16Speaker 2: is regular trade, open travel, mutual respect. Let's just get
- 7:19Speaker 2: back to the way things were, you guys. It'll take
- 7:21Speaker 2: a little bit, eh? Sorry. Sorry. If we have to
- 7:24Speaker 2: say sorry, I'll do it.
- 7:26Speaker 1: Sorry, eh? Eh. You know what's funny? I've been talking
- 7:30Speaker 1: about this on the latest on the news. Donald Trump
- 7:33Speaker 1: is out campaigning every single day. You know, good for that.
- 7:36Speaker 1: You know, 81 years old, he's traveling like crazy, getting
- 7:39Speaker 1: no sleep, but he is slowly losing his mind. So
- 7:43Speaker 1: last night at a rally, in addition to talking about
- 7:47Speaker 1: how many male candidates are really handsome and have nice
- 7:51Speaker 1: rear ends, which is another story in itself. Last night
- 7:55Speaker 1: he was upset because he did not get the Nobel
- 7:58Speaker 1: Peace Prize, but he kept calling it the Pulitzer Prize, which,
- 8:02Speaker 1: of course, is for journalism. And, you know, talking about
- 8:08Speaker 1: one of the male candidates in Kansas, and, I mean,
- 8:13Speaker 1: he spent a lot of time admiring this candidate's rear end.
- 8:18Speaker 1: CNN is running all these clips. I mean, if it
- 8:21Speaker 1: wasn't so sad, it would be hysterical. I mean, he's
- 8:25Speaker 1: having a meltdown.
- 8:27Speaker 2: You know, I think there should be an intervention at
- 8:30Speaker 2: some point here, quite frankly, Gene. But, you know, it's
- 8:33Speaker 2: hard to make sense of it. You can't really decompile
- 8:35Speaker 2: what he's saying. But I've said, and former co-hosts of
- 8:39Speaker 2: mine on another podcast have said, you know, this is
- 8:42Speaker 2: a guy who would be perfect for a late-night comedy show.
- 8:45Speaker 2: And I think we should just give him a desk.
- 8:47Speaker 2: Give him the microphone. And when it comes to, you know,
- 8:50Speaker 2: his outlandish ideas and statements, you know, let him say it.
- 8:55Speaker 2: And quite frankly, if we can get through this period
- 8:57Speaker 2: by just giving him the Nobel Peace Prize and the Pulitzer, like,
- 9:00Speaker 2: let's just do it. I mean, come on. Like, it's
- 9:02Speaker 2: just one year. We can cancel it afterwards.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Great take this morning. Thank you. And we'll be talking
- 9:08Speaker 1: to you, let's see, 9.15 Friday morning. How's that?
- 9:13Speaker 2: Looking forward to it, Gene.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Thank you. There he goes, John Letke. Letke's got a take.
- 9:17Speaker 1: You just never know, but I love them.