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  Speaker 1: The following.
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  Speaker 2: He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the
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  Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys Football Club.
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys.
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  Speaker 3: This He's Cowboys Storyline with Nick Eatman.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Welcome to Cowboys Storyline. I'm Nick Eatman. Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: January sixteenth. This is our regular schedule now we're finally
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  Speaker 1: on to the offseason. Had a couple of shows this
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  Speaker 1: week and last week for TV purposes on BALI maybe
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  Speaker 1: you caught it there, but obviously this is where we're
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  Speaker 1: on Dallascowboys dot Com and the podcast every Wednesday, nine
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  Speaker 1: thirty to about ten thirty, ten forty five. That'll really
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  Speaker 1: depend on you guys. On the Howman calls we get
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  Speaker 1: already got a couple of callers on the line, so
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  Speaker 1: that is a good start. Obviously, nothing new with the
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  Speaker 1: coaching search with Mike McCarthy's exit, and it looks like
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  Speaker 1: he's going to interview with the Bears, which is what
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  Speaker 1: they wanted all along. And I think that that shows
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  Speaker 1: right there that Jerry and McCarthy, at least Jerry was
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  Speaker 1: interested in bringing him back. I think a lot of
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  Speaker 1: this is we forget that part and we forget it
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  Speaker 1: with Jason Garrett too. You kind of forget that the
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  Speaker 1: contract is up and so it wasn't necessarily well he's gone, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that they could have made it work. And I think
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  Speaker 1: this is probably as close to as a mutual departure
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  Speaker 1: as you can get for two sides. I think it
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  Speaker 1: just at the end of the day, into the end
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  Speaker 1: of the five years, it was probably just best for
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  Speaker 1: both sides. So now we'll see where the cowboys moved
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  Speaker 1: from here a lot of names. I'm sure you guys
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of opinions, So we'll get to it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go Carolina. He's in Longview, Texas. So Carolina is
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  Speaker 1: on the move again. There we go.
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  Speaker 4: Where's going on?
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  Speaker 1: How are you?
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  Speaker 2: Man? It's a wonderful day to be alive. No snow
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  Speaker 2: going on right now. So I'm loving it all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, No, not in long View? Probably not.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, how you feeling?
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  Speaker 5: Man?
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  Speaker 2: You all right?
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  Speaker 1: I'm good man, good hanging in there. Let's go.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do this, all right. So I'm glad I was
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  Speaker 2: the first caller, so I can bring this up first.
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  Speaker 2: So what do you think about the call being made
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  Speaker 2: to Dr Stampus first? That's the first day I want
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  Speaker 2: to get out the way. Yeah, and my second question
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  Speaker 2: to you is do you believe that it was just
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  Speaker 2: a media stunt or do you think that this may
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  Speaker 2: have some real traction?
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  Speaker 1: What do you think? I'll ask you your your thoughts
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  Speaker 1: about it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure, man, because I'm like.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I've been looking at it out. First
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  Speaker 1: of all, do you like Dion? Do you like do
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  Speaker 1: you root for Colorado?
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  Speaker 5: Do you?
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  Speaker 6: I mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, got, of course. I mean he's he's a
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  Speaker 2: super Bowl guy from from Bank in the nineties. Of
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  Speaker 2: course I love dr He's a cowboy. How how can
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  Speaker 2: you not love they'all right? I mean, how can you
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  Speaker 2: not push together good programs. He's a leader, he's respected.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I like it, and I think that will
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  Speaker 2: bring a different type of culture into the locker room,
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  Speaker 2: if you from my honest opinion. But do I really
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  Speaker 2: believe it's going to happen.
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  Speaker 7: I'm like.
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  Speaker 2: Seventy thirty maybe, yeah, yeah, no, thirty percent maybe, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it definitely would be exciting for the outside world.
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  Speaker 1: You know that that would love to that, especially you know,
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  Speaker 1: I said this yesterday about the you know media, The
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  Speaker 1: media would love it because it gives them something to
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  Speaker 1: talk about, and they have to talk Cowboys Right now,
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  Speaker 1: they're talking Cowboys with Mike McCarthy. They don't want to
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  Speaker 1: talk Kellen Moore or whoever it else it might be.
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  Speaker 1: But if it's Dion, you know that's going to be
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  Speaker 1: fun for for for them. So is he Is he
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  Speaker 1: the best coach? I don't know, you know, in college
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  Speaker 1: it's a different game a little bit. But and then again,
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  Speaker 1: and I had a conversation with Derek Eagleton yesterday. He
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  Speaker 1: had a great point. Does he want to does he
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  Speaker 1: want to send the blitz on his son like twice
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  Speaker 1: a year because he's probably.
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  Speaker 2: Going to the Giants?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you really want to go all out and
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  Speaker 1: and and and and get after Shador twice a year.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if Deon is built that way. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if a lot of people are built that way,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So all right, anything else, Carolina?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, last question, right, So not the what would be
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  Speaker 2: your next up prostate for coaching the Cowboys going forward?
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  Speaker 2: And I hope you have a good day. I'm happy
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  Speaker 2: I got in because I tried last weekend. The line
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  Speaker 2: was ringing off to it.
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  Speaker 1: All right, man, that's great, Thank you, Carolina, as always
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  Speaker 1: appreciate that you know, I people think, because I've brought
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  Speaker 1: it up a few times that I'm I'm in this
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  Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, you know, like like fan club or something
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  Speaker 1: like that. I think he might be the leader in
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  Speaker 1: the clubhouse at the moment, but I understand that he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't get people excited, you know. And and because does
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  Speaker 1: he get the team excited. I mean, now, winning games
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  Speaker 1: will get anybody excited. And and I think if you look,
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  Speaker 1: you know, around the league and there there there are
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  Speaker 1: a few guys that are that are similar to him.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if Ben Johnson's that much different
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  Speaker 1: than him anyways, as far as just demeanor and things
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  Speaker 1: like that. But the guy that that and you might
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  Speaker 1: have to wait a little bit for it. But I'd
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  Speaker 1: be interested in Aaron glenn I really would. Aaron glenn
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  Speaker 1: Is is a guy that I think he has some
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  Speaker 1: Tomlin in him. You know, they played in the league.
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  Speaker 1: He's respected. But remember this, I think I said this yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: He was a he was a five eight five nine cornerback.
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  Speaker 1: You're not supposed to make it in the league for
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  Speaker 1: that long and you're definitely not supposed to be a
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  Speaker 1: good corner and he was. He was a really good player.
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  Speaker 1: He reminds me of Jordan Lewis. If you think about it,
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  Speaker 1: you know you're you're not big enough, right well wrong?
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  Speaker 1: Watch this. That's that's kind of his whole career. And
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  Speaker 1: so that mentality that's inside of him to be that
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  Speaker 1: type of player for that long, just just a guy
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  Speaker 1: that's like, you can throw a fade if you want,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go up and get it. I remember when
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  Speaker 1: he played here, he was still he was a crafty, veteran,
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  Speaker 1: good player. Won a game week in Week one opener
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  Speaker 1: against the Chargers. I remember that with an interception he
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  Speaker 1: I think that kind of mentality is exactly what Dan
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  Speaker 1: Campbell wants, and I think it's exactly what would be
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  Speaker 1: good for uh, this this generation of players, because they
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  Speaker 1: they want to know, you know, have have you done it?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, have is somebody on this staff done it? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I've done it. I've done it, and I've done it
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  Speaker 1: not too long ago, and I understand how to win
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  Speaker 1: right now. So there's a lot of things I like
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  Speaker 1: about that. With Aaron Glenn, you talked about Dion. We've
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  Speaker 1: talked about Dion later. I've got an interesting history. I
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  Speaker 1: guess you would say, and with not really with Dion,
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  Speaker 1: but just just from as far as you know me
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  Speaker 1: growing up as a fan with Dion, there was not
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  Speaker 1: a bigger deon Sanders fan at all. But I don't
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  Speaker 1: really know how I feel sometimes about him, and watching
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  Speaker 1: Colorado for two years, Sometimes I root for him, Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: I don't. It's just they're hard to watch. Sometimes they're
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  Speaker 1: hard to root for because I want to. I want
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  Speaker 1: to root for him and Travis Hunter and chadur and
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  Speaker 1: all that, and then sometimes you just they just talk
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  Speaker 1: too much and you're just like, all right, that's enough.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't really know what I feel about them,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't think I'm I'm alone in that in
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  Speaker 1: that regard. All r Let's go to Brian in Kansas City.
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  Speaker 8: Good morning, sir, Hey Brian, how are you. I'm doing good, man,
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  Speaker 8: I'm doing good. Don't know if I have a leading candidate,
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  Speaker 8: Aaron Glenn.
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  Speaker 5: I guess.
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  Speaker 8: I know people have said that the window on interviewing
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  Speaker 8: him is now closed. I guess until the season's over,
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  Speaker 8: or until their season's over.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, is that right? Okay?
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  Speaker 5: So, and I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: You know, he did a bunch from what I read.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know if you know, if, if, if he'll
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  Speaker 8: still be available. Just watching him on the sidelines, he's
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  Speaker 8: a fun guy to watch, you know. He reminds me
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  Speaker 8: of exactly what you said in watching him about it
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  Speaker 8: as a player. You know, he's running up, he's moving
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  Speaker 8: up and down the sidelines and hollering and you know,
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  Speaker 8: just a dramatic guy to watch on the sidelines, right,
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  Speaker 8: and you hope that would translate to the team. Yeah,
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  Speaker 8: So I'll tell you the funny one. This is not
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  Speaker 8: a real pick, but the funny one that I thought
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  Speaker 8: of was Drew Pearson, remember the draft pick a couple
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  Speaker 8: of years back. Yeah, I thought, oh, yeah, that's the
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  Speaker 8: guy I want from my head coach Hut. He'd be
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  Speaker 8: out there motivating the guys. I don't know if he
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  Speaker 8: I don't know if he has any interest in coaching,
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  Speaker 8: but he'd be motivating with he gives a speech like that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you so what he did coach? I
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  Speaker 1: think his first year out of the league, I think
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  Speaker 1: he was an assistant coach.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know that.
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  Speaker 1: I now I'm starting to wonder maybe maybe not. I
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  Speaker 1: think I think so maybe like eighty four, I don't know.
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  Speaker 8: Wow, Well, I'm gonna look that one up. Yeah, hey,
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  Speaker 8: I do have a question for you this morning, though
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  Speaker 8: not related to coaching. So I'm kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 8: knowing that we have the number twelve pick, I'm kind
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  Speaker 8: of on board with I'm hoping we trade back and
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  Speaker 8: picked up a low two or a high three, just
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  Speaker 8: based off of how many free agents we have coming up,
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  Speaker 8: the state of the cap, and the fact that the
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  Speaker 8: Cowboys don't seem to you know, when you look at
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  Speaker 8: the other playoff teams, some of them have real high
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  Speaker 8: numbers to what they're paying to people that aren't under
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  Speaker 8: you know, aren't on the team anymore. You know, the
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  Speaker 8: the Eagles are like sixty million. I don't know what
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  Speaker 8: the Broncos have to have a high number, knowing what
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  Speaker 8: they did with Wilson, just but that's not the Cowboy way,
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  Speaker 8: you know, it's not what they've been doing. So if
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  Speaker 8: they if they want to stay on the draft and
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  Speaker 8: develop and get you know, just one or two free
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  Speaker 8: agents each year that are you know, contributors on the team,
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  Speaker 8: I would be on the trade back bandwagon and get
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  Speaker 8: your thoughts on that, man, and I'll hang up and
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  Speaker 8: listen to what you have to say all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Brian, you know, I think trade back is good
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  Speaker 1: if you if you're fine with you know, say you're
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  Speaker 1: at twelve and you want to go to seventeen or
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  Speaker 1: something like that. If there's players on your board that
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  Speaker 1: you can live with, that that you still think are
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  Speaker 1: worthy of that pick plus what you get, then yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean that that makes sense. But you know, you
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  Speaker 1: can't be wiped out. You can't be at twelve and
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  Speaker 1: go well, we really only like two guys and we're
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  Speaker 1: going back to seventeen and then from there what you know,
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  Speaker 1: you've you've got to have a plan. And I think
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  Speaker 1: that that's that when Jerry has done that and the
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys have done that over the years. I think that
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  Speaker 1: has been the case. I think back to twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 1: when they were sitting at ten, they got the two
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  Speaker 1: corners that they wanted.
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  Speaker 3: J C.
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  Speaker 1: Horn and Patrick's Artan were both gone. So then then
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  Speaker 1: then what well you got Micah Parsons at ten and
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  Speaker 1: then they just you know, they just worked the draft
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  Speaker 1: perfectly to say all right, well, we know I can't
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  Speaker 1: remember exactly how it went, but I mean they knew
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  Speaker 1: that the Giants were going to trade up. Maybe and
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  Speaker 1: with the Bears, I guess the Bear Sorry, the Bears
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  Speaker 1: were going to trade up to get Justin Fields and
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  Speaker 1: they knew that Eagles, we're going to take Devonte Smith.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what they made that trade. And I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if Eagles told them they were taking Devonte Smith
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  Speaker 1: or Trouble and they were taking offensive player. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure how that went down, but either way, I think
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  Speaker 1: the Cowboys were fine, going, all right, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: move two spots. We're gonna get Micah Parsons or we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get Slater the offensive tackle for the Chargers, and
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  Speaker 1: be fine with them. So if you have options there
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  Speaker 1: to trade back and say whatever it is, I think
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  Speaker 1: we're good. And that's not a bad strategy at all.
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  Speaker 1: So because they do need picks, and remember that they
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  Speaker 1: lost a fourth with Mingo, so you know, I could
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  Speaker 1: see that happening because twelve you can get a good player.
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  Speaker 1: I think you can get a good player at fifteen
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  Speaker 1: or sixteen seventeen. So if you can move back and
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  Speaker 1: get pick up another third, you can turn that third,
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  Speaker 1: you know, into a fourth and a fifth. Now you know,
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  Speaker 1: now that's kind of what you're what you're trying to
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  Speaker 1: do get your picks back. But let's see. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's one thing. I think the Cowboys are pretty good
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  Speaker 1: as moving around the draft. Let's go to Ali and Florida.
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, my save man. You pretty good, sir. I'm
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  Speaker 4: so happy I lost my debt to you because my
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  Speaker 4: breaking news didn't work out?
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  Speaker 1: What was so? I forgot? What was it again?
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  Speaker 6: It was?
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  Speaker 4: I told you that Mike McCarthy is gonna say and
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  Speaker 4: Al Harris is going to be a defensive coordinator.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't think. Yeah, I wouldn't hold
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  Speaker 1: my breath on that one.
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  Speaker 4: So I lost the bed.
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  Speaker 5: So here it is.
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  Speaker 4: I just talked to Chris.
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  Speaker 5: I want it. Oh.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Alan Darren Witson responded to my text message.
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  Speaker 1: I texted him about his favorite animal. Yeah, he said,
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  Speaker 1: a male lion.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I have plenty of those.
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  Speaker 5: That's done.
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  Speaker 4: I send it to you guys, then you can keep
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  Speaker 4: it just in case one way or the other, I'll
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  Speaker 4: send you. I got the most beautiful.
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  Speaker 5: Lion pictures ever.
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  Speaker 4: So it's in the world. That's done.
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  Speaker 5: So what I want to do.
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  Speaker 6: I want to.
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  Speaker 4: Reward the kids, Jacob and Chris's kid. So what I
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  Speaker 4: would do is if you guys going bowling, I'd like
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  Speaker 4: to pick up the tab because I always want to
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  Speaker 4: pay my bet. So it's just set up. Uncle Ali
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  Speaker 4: took care of it because it was so nice on
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  Speaker 4: the set. So having said that, my favorite coach, if
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  Speaker 4: I had the choice to get it, it would be
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  Speaker 4: Sean McVay. I know you on that emergency podcast you
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  Speaker 4: mentioned something second round. I'm good with it, but I
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  Speaker 4: had no circuminstance says I want John Gruden in Cowboys
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  Speaker 4: coaching the stuff because I live in Tampa. I know
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  Speaker 4: all the ins and outs I've been around. But John
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  Speaker 4: Gruden is.
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  Speaker 5: A good coach.
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  Speaker 4: I don't recall ever he developed any quarterback whatsoever.
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  Speaker 5: John Grudan is a note for me.
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  Speaker 4: But I think Mike Zimmer and Sanders they're working together
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  Speaker 4: in Jackson Estate as a consultant and Colorado. I'm with
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  Speaker 4: you is going to be too much a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of more media, but because of Jerry Jones, say, hey,
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  Speaker 4: I get Sanders, but my first choice is a Sean
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  Speaker 4: McVay and the draft stick twelve. If gently is not there,
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  Speaker 4: I would trade down a couple and as far as
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  Speaker 4: question for you, this is my question.
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  Speaker 5: I'll put the.
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  Speaker 4: Team together, you Chris, Captain, Rob, Randy, Irene, and Zellan.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go to whatever your sponsor s WBC,
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  Speaker 4: ask them for ten billion dollar loan and see if
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  Speaker 4: I can purchase the Cowboys for all of you, so
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  Speaker 4: you guys can run the show. That's all I have.
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  Speaker 6: All right, love your brother. You know what.
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  Speaker 1: You should? You should try to dream big. You know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. You know you have some big wild dreams.
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  Speaker 1: You know, don't don't don't go don't go small here,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, let's get ten billion dollar loans. Let's
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  Speaker 1: buy the team for us. Appreciate that we did go
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  Speaker 1: bowling not too long ago, like this last week for
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  Speaker 1: Chris's birthday. It was his birthday and uh he was
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  Speaker 1: bowling like a like a birthday boy. He was doing
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  Speaker 1: pretty good. I was trying to get a hundred. But
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  Speaker 1: all right, good stuff, Ali a lot of stuff. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know why, Like I don't know why. I never
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  Speaker 1: even I didn't even think about this, the Zimmer Dion angele.
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  Speaker 1: Not once, not once I even thought about that, with
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  Speaker 1: like Dion being here and maybe keeping Zimmer. I I
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  Speaker 1: remember this though, I told this story just the other day.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why I'm surprised I didn't. I didn't say
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think of it. But in ninety nine, the
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys played the Giants in Week four, I believe, and
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  Speaker 1: they lost a close game Monday night football, and Dion
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  Speaker 1: and I was, this is my first year with the team,
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  Speaker 1: and now that when I look back now, like I know,
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  Speaker 1: I was definitely on the wrong bus, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know what I didn't know. And I'm sitting
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  Speaker 1: there and I'm up pretty like but like the third
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  Speaker 1: or fourth row, and I remember Campo was there. Campo
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: was the defensive coordinator in Gaily staff, and it was
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: it was well known that Campo was going to be
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: a head coach. This was his last year. It was
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: going to be a head coach somewhere. And Dion walks
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: past him after the game and just says, don't take
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: Zim with your camps wherever you're going, don't take Zim
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: and and just kind of walk to the back. And
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I think that was that was kind of telling of yes,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: everyone knows Campo's leaving, And you know that was Dion
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: putting in a word for Zimmer to be the defensive
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: coordinator here and not necessarily there. As it turned out,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: Campo became the head coach. Zimmer was the defensive coordinator
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: state here even past Campo with with Parcels, which was interesting.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Jason in Maryland.
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: Jason, Hey, Nick, how you doing, sir? Good? Long time,
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: long time, long time, but first time caller.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: We go good to hear fast.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: I've been getting Dallas Cowboys Weekly magazine since I was
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: five years old with the color photos, and I watch
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: and listen and read everything online. But you know, this
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: conversation spoke really got me wanting to give you a buzz,
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: talk about a few quick things and just kind of
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: wrap get your opinion on what I have to say. Okay,
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: let's really stop talking about coaches on our squad and
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: their salaries.
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: We all know.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: Jerry could care less if it's ten fifteen to twenty
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: million a year as salaries. You know, for our we
• 19:00
  Speaker 5: kept Dan Quinn. The reality is we all know he'd
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: pay a billion dollars out of his own money to
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: get another Super Bowl. It's really what he cares about
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: is obviously the cap. In my opinion here, Nick McCarthy
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: would have taken a month to month contract, a year contract,
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: or a two year contract. He wanted to stay in Dallas.
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: The reason why he's gone is because between him and
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: Stephen Jones and the powers that be, he didn't want
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: to give up offensive play calling ability. That's my take.
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: The offense last year started terrible with no run game
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: and the whole running back by committee. The CD holdout
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: was a mistake, and play calling was boring, not utilizing
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: weapons such as turping down the stretching the field, et cetera.
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: In my opinion, in these are the keys for the future.
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: First and foremost retained. Will keep Zim as our decoordinator
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: because we can't have three defensive systems in three years.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: And keep Mike and are d happy again? Just my
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: take here, Okay, get double because you need two running backs,
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: retain him and Hoffman like the caller yesterday, he stayed in.
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: And we need some nastiness on our O and D
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: line that plays with tenacity which we are sorely missing.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: And there's and draft wise take Gentry, Let's take a
• 20:47
  Speaker 5: hard look at steel and let's call it spade a
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: spade with Giton. Guidon was a problem last year and
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: he got bench due to his you know he's a rookie,
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: but lack of strength. But when Hoffmann came in, we
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: got a little nastier. We got much better on the interior.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: We used to have fire and passion on the sidelines
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: with guys like Irvin Troy Aikman and even my boy
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: Eric Williams back in the day against Reggie White. You know,
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: we all have that nastiness on our sideline. So with
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: that being said, I'm all about for coaching. I'm all about.
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: I'd love it witting. I'd love to retain Zimmer and shoot,
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: even if we can get Nick game day guys back
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: game day coaches or assistant coaches like a Michael irvinkas
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: Sean Lee like you know, one of these like our
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: old time players. The more, the more, the merrier. And
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: and conclusion, I want to say, I and you guys
• 21:57
  Speaker 5: already talked about it, but Jerry Jones on man phenomenal,
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: absolutely phenomenal. So anyways, love everything you do, Nick, all right,
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: and appreciate you and just wanted to throw all that
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: out at there.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: There you go, Well, I appreciate the call. I know
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: it's your first time to call, so you had a
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: lot a lot on your mind. You've put a lot
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: out there. I like it, man, I'm going back to
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: the first part of it about McCarthy and the play calling.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: That's that's probably it's either that in the combination of
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: the money. You know, you said that you don't think
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: money is an issue. I think it is with Jerry.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: Jerry's just never paid the coaches that that much. I mean,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: he just he just has it. There's been a lot
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: of talk about how much money McCarthy was making last year.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Four million has been thrown around. It's really more like
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: eight and I think there's a website that has of
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: at four and a half. But he was making about
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: eight million, remember, you know, because Garrett was making sick.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it was about eight million for for for Mike.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: I think I think it did come down to that,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: because how could like if you don't if you bring
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: back Mike, that's fine, but there's got to be something different.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: We gotta change this thing. This isn't just about injuries.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: Everyone knows this is more than injuries. This is the
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: problems way before that. So I got to fix some
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: of that. And and I think that play call, I mean,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: that had to be part of it. And if Mike
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: didn't want to do that, you know then and he knows,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: he knows the situation. His agent's out there, he knows
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: what they can probably get. Now, it'll it'll be interesting
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: to see what what Mike ends up with and if
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: he if he gets a job. I mean, yeah, there's
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: a few out there, but there's also there's a lot
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: more candidates too, so we'll see if if he gets
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: to pick. Uh, let's go to u Zach in Atlanta.
• 23:52
  Speaker 9: Hey, what's up, Nick?
• 23:52
  Speaker 10: How are you, buddy?
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: Man?
• 23:54
  Speaker 10: How I'm doing all right? I told Beam happy birthday.
• 23:59
  Speaker 10: We sounds like they'll celebrated and tore her up the town.
• 24:02
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I love to hear it.
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: Maybe a Shirley Temple getting a little crazy. I told
• 24:07
  Speaker 10: him he only turned twenty one one, so he was he.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Was He was rolling, man, he was rolling until until
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: I came in and jinxed them, like like a straight
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: up no hit her in the seventh you know, it
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: was like in the eighth frame he was lisitting at
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: like one twenty five thirty and I was like, you're
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: bowling a great game?
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: You were?
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: He was like shut up? And then then he didn't tank.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: But it wasn't the you know, the best.
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: He got the rich.
• 24:36
  Speaker 7: Yeah, got the yips a little bit, a little bit.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I was. I was like, right right over one hundred.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: It was awesome, that's straight.
• 24:43
  Speaker 7: I'm glad I went up with the rails up.
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: Now I'm kidding exactly.
• 24:47
  Speaker 10: That's my bullying. Yeah, but uh yeah, obviously McCarthy's out.
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm kind.
• 24:54
  Speaker 10: Of excited about what's next because you think about the
• 24:58
  Speaker 10: transition from wasteful to Garrett. I mean, Jason Garrett was
• 25:02
  Speaker 10: waiting in the wings, we had him forever, and then
• 25:06
  Speaker 10: when it came to that contract, you know, just kind
• 25:10
  Speaker 10: of dissolving. I think the Cowboys only interviewed Marvin Lewis
• 25:15
  Speaker 10: and then Mike McCarthy, and they went with McCarthy. So
• 25:20
  Speaker 10: I hope that this coaching search.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: This is a hope, right.
• 25:25
  Speaker 10: I don't know how exhaustive they're gonna be and if
• 25:28
  Speaker 10: they're really going to knock on some new doors or
• 25:31
  Speaker 10: you know, Kelen Morrison thrown out there. You know, different
• 25:35
  Speaker 10: names associated with the Cowboys in the past that I'm
• 25:37
  Speaker 10: not too excited about are on the table. But I
• 25:41
  Speaker 10: would love to just turn over some new stones and
• 25:44
  Speaker 10: uh you know, Jerry's kind of got us back up
• 25:47
  Speaker 10: against the wall because it sounds like they would have
• 25:50
  Speaker 10: been okay bringing McCarthy back, and so now it's kind
• 25:55
  Speaker 10: of like, all right, let's swim. Let's see what you're
• 25:58
  Speaker 10: gonna do, Jerry, And so it might be a circuits higher,
• 26:02
  Speaker 10: let's roll with it.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: But I would love to see.
• 26:05
  Speaker 10: An Aaron Glenn his name came up, Jason Witten with
• 26:11
  Speaker 10: the right team around him. But I'm I, yeah, there's
• 26:16
  Speaker 10: there's got to be a lot of components to support Winten.
• 26:19
  Speaker 10: But just want a hard nosed coach man to coach
• 26:22
  Speaker 10: that wants to play football the way it's supposed to
• 26:25
  Speaker 10: be played, running the ball and.
• 26:27
  Speaker 7: You know, being physical.
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and so those.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: Are my thoughts.
• 26:31
  Speaker 10: Shout out to McCarthy. Though we I lived through the
• 26:34
  Speaker 10: eight and eight Jason Garrett era. You know, I think
• 26:37
  Speaker 10: his career record with the Cowboys eight and eight, but
• 26:41
  Speaker 10: the three straight eight and eight seasons losing the last
• 26:43
  Speaker 10: game of the season to each divisional opponent that afforded
• 26:46
  Speaker 10: them the title, that sucks. You know, we enjoyed three
• 26:50
  Speaker 10: twelve and five seasons with McCarthy, but it was the
• 26:53
  Speaker 10: same result and so I think it was the right
• 26:55
  Speaker 10: move to move on. And uh, we'll see where it goes.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: So I saw I got where you all right, sounds
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: good the wall.
• 27:02
  Speaker 10: Let's let's see Jerry swim.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Let's see all right, you too, Yeah, I mean I think,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: you know, I think it's good to have respect for
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: for what Mike, Mike did you know you you wanna
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: you want to be in the dance, you know you
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: that's what you want to you want you want to
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: be there at the end. And uh, for the most part,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: he had him there. He had him competing. Even on
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: the years that they didn't make the playoffs. Both those years,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: you know, Dad got hurt and and it was you know,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: just trying to play with a lot with backups and stuff. Again,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: there were other problems, but you know that didn't help
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: the situation. And and they they fought every every time,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: you know, they didn't they definitely didn't roll over. So
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: he's got that. And plus those twelve and five teams
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: were good, you know, they were good. But that's the thing,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: like there's there's good teams in the playoffs here. You know,
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: when you look at the teams in the playoffs, the
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: Eagles are good. The Lions are good, you know, the
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: the Ravens and the Chiefs and the Bills. I mean,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: they're all they're all good. Well, three of those teams
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: I just mentioned aren't going to make it to the
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: super Bowl, you know, and then they're just not And
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: we know that, you guys, don't. You guys know that.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that that's where the Cowboys were.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: They were a good team, they were not good enough
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: to go to that next level. And then he didn't,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: you know, help take them there. You know, the the
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: upset the Green Bay game probably still haunts them. I mean,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: it seemed like it had a carryover. I didn't believe
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: in that. I really didn't believe in carryovers from one
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: year to another. But it's hard to argue against them
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: when you think about how they lost that game and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: how they continued those trends of they didn't have a
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: good start, they didn't stop the run very well, they
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: couldn't run the ball at all, and they sucked at home.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: That's what it was. And so that game right there
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: really did have a carryover. They're gonna have to figure
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: out how to fix that, for sure. Let's go to
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Steve in New York before we take our break. Care,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: how you doing all right?
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: Man?
• 29:04
  Speaker 11: He was that game you will happened ninety nine game
• 29:06
  Speaker 11: that was the one on like the last play they
• 29:08
  Speaker 11: almost yeah, I had, Oh my god, I was watching
• 29:12
  Speaker 11: on TV.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: I was on the field thinking that they did score.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I was on the field. I couldn't really see and
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: Dion had got to keep you know, because the Giants
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: had kicked a field goal to take the lead thirteen
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: to ten to win the game with like three seconds
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: and they kicked off and then you know, okay, I
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: always was throwing it around and Dion actually lateraled forward.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: But they they got it and went for a touch
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: looked like a touchdown.
• 29:38
  Speaker 11: I think it was Kevin Mathis or somebody like that.
• 29:39
  Speaker 11: But I'll tell you what. I was watching my TV.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Scored, yeah, and seeing his name, I think the guy
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: that scored. You're right, it might have been Mathis, one
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: of those guys there was singor Mobiley was in there
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: scoring at the end. And what was really weird about
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: that play and it was all for not because everybody
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: kind of knew that they threw the flag and all that.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: But they're still around. But the kicker for the Giants
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: might have been Brad de Luiso Torres a c L
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: trying to tackle the guy at the very end at
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the end and the end zone really played at the count,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and I think he was lost for the season. So
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: a lot, a lot of weird stuff going on in
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: that game there. But the Giants had this rookie punt
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: retzer named Tiki Barber that was really.
• 30:21
  Speaker 11: Good and that he turned out okay, yeah, pretty good
• 30:25
  Speaker 11: before the trivia real quick, I just Aaron Glenn's the
• 30:28
  Speaker 11: guy I want. I think they're gonna get Kellen Moore.
• 30:30
  Speaker 11: I'm just curious if if glenn Is does get the job,
• 30:36
  Speaker 11: who's calling plays them? Like, where do you think they're
• 30:38
  Speaker 11: going to go for that?
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah? You got me on that. I mean, I really
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: it would be you know, it would be his show.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna he's gonna have to find somebody.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I think that that you know, would work with Dak.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I mean that's not that hard, that's easy to work with.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: But you know, again, I would just be speculating if
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: I knew what Aaron Glenn's plan would be, and in
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: his coaching not his coaching tree, but you know where
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: he's been and all the other stops. I'm not sure.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: You know, sometimes what you look for is you look
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: at the quarterback coaches, you know, like the quarterback coach
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: under under Ben Johnson or something if he doesn't go
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: with Ben Johnson somewhere, so you know, things like that
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: to elevate them to the to the offensive coordinator. But again,
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: I would just be speculating. I don't know.
• 31:28
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I hear you real quick, my trivia. Speaking of
• 31:32
  Speaker 11: Aaron Glenn two thousand and five Cowboys season opener, he
• 31:36
  Speaker 11: intercepted a pass in the end zone to steal a
• 31:40
  Speaker 11: win in San Diego. You know who he intercepted?
• 31:45
  Speaker 7: I know, you do, Yeah, you.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Know, I like because it was always Philip Rivers. But
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I'm like, was it Breeze?
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 31:54
  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: Wow? So that was his last year because I know
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: in six he was definitely with the with the Saints
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: and they they they beat the Cowboys in that game
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: at home. But yeah, I guess I didn't realize that
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: was that was Drew Brey. What a great game that was?
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I remember it was.
• 32:08
  Speaker 7: That really was a fun.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Game back and forth and a good, good atmosphere, always
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: a good atmosphere going there, because anytime you play the Chargers.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: You know, they they need the opponents to fill up
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: the stadium so too, and and you know, and the
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Cowboys certainly did that. But uh yeah it was good.
• 32:24
  Speaker 11: And you know what, Nick, And about eight days later,
• 32:27
  Speaker 11: all of that just came apart because that was the
• 32:31
  Speaker 11: I just called the Santana loss game. I won't even
• 32:33
  Speaker 11: get into it is I know you know exactly what
• 32:35
  Speaker 11: he's talking about.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that wasn't a fun one, all right, Steve,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: appreciate it.
• 32:40
  Speaker 11: Thanks for the time.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, one minute, you're you're in the media guy flipping
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: through going when's the last time the Cowboys had a
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: shut out? You know, they're up thirteen to nothing, here
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: was seven minutes to go, like I don't remember the
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: last time, and then touchdown the Moss touchdown, the Moss.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Games over and might have been changed. Roy Williams's career
• 32:59
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  Speaker 15: To Cowboys Storyline.
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  Speaker 1: All right, welcome back here on Cowboys Storyline. I do
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  Speaker 1: All right, I want to throw this part out there.
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  Speaker 1: I know we're talking a lot about Dion's name mentioned.
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  Speaker 1: Dion has not interviewed with the Cowboys, and so if
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  Speaker 1: people think that and there's been some articles written and
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  Speaker 1: this is this is not accurate. So Jerry, Jerry calling
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  Speaker 1: Dion Sanders does not is not work for the Rooney rule.
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  Speaker 1: That that doesn't. That doesn't mean that Okay, now he's
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  Speaker 1: good there. Now you have to do a sit down
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  Speaker 1: interview with him. And uh, now maybe the Cowboys do that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean maybe maybe maybe that happens, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't. You're not gonna do that to Deon Sanders.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, and Deon's not gonna let that happen. That
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  Speaker 1: that's not what this is. I mean that not at all. Remember,
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  Speaker 1: you could not they couldn't officially have interviews until Wednesday,
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  Speaker 1: when when McCarthy's contract expired. Anyways, So that's not the case. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: maybe the Cowboys will interview him, but that's the Jerry didn't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't, in my opinion, Jerry didn't call him for
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  Speaker 1: that because that that call doesn't do anything. That that
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  Speaker 1: call is really like, hey, where do you know? What
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  Speaker 1: are you thinking here? Is this something you would be
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  Speaker 1: interested in? And you know it sounds like Dion is
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  Speaker 1: intrigued by it. But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 1: I think the what works for Dion, He's got he's
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  Speaker 1: got the whole brand. Everything that he's doing is perfect
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  Speaker 1: in college. It may not be in Colorado forever, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, I just think it doesn't work the same
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  Speaker 1: for the in the NFL. And he knows that. He
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  Speaker 1: knows that, so you can you can kind of run
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing. Uh. And the reason why I say
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  Speaker 1: that different in college and pro it's not about Jerry
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  Speaker 1: and being the GM and all that that would be
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  Speaker 1: any place. It's is that you kind of control what
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  Speaker 1: you're doing and you can still recruit. Uh, you can
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  Speaker 1: recruit with because you you are coach Prime as he
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  Speaker 1: calls himself. So it's not not so much the same. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you can, you can recruit in free agency. But money's money,
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  Speaker 1: and in fact, in college that's what's happening as well.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's probably a lot of people excited about
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  Speaker 1: and when Dion calls, but I can promise you this,
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  Speaker 1: if if Nebraska's given more money than Colorado, they're probably
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  Speaker 1: up there in Lincoln. That's just kind of the way
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  Speaker 1: that the college world is right now. All right, let's
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  Speaker 1: go to Irene in Falls Church, Virginia.
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  Speaker 16: Hey, good morning, good morning.
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  Speaker 1: How are you.
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  Speaker 17: I'm Dell, how are you good, good?
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  Speaker 16: Good?
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  Speaker 13: Okay?
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  Speaker 16: So I wrote notes so that I can try to
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  Speaker 16: do this sufficiently. I want to talk about a few names,
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  Speaker 16: and I have one question for you. Okay, all right,
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  Speaker 16: So Dion, you know pros he's built not one, but
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  Speaker 16: two winning programs, right. He would definitely satisfy Jerry's need
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  Speaker 16: for media attention and ratings. Negative is that, you know,
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  Speaker 16: he's pretty polarizing, and that there are you know, even
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  Speaker 16: his son and some of his players kind of throw
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  Speaker 16: teammates under the bus. So I don't know what kind
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  Speaker 16: of culture he would be building in our locker room.
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  Speaker 16: Wouldn't be my favorite choice, but it might be the
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  Speaker 16: perfect miss of seriousness and entertainment. I don't think it's
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  Speaker 16: just entertainment with him. I do respect what he's done
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  Speaker 16: in college, Waitten. He would definitely have the team studying film.
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  Speaker 16: He would not let any practice be lackluster. He's loyal
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  Speaker 16: to this team, to the organization, to the Jones family.
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  Speaker 16: Negative is, of course, the experience. It would make a
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  Speaker 16: lot more sense for him to come on in a
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  Speaker 16: lesser role. But my knee jerk reaction was to.
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  Speaker 4: Hate the idea.
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  Speaker 16: And you know, I don't I don't think I'd hate
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  Speaker 16: it as much as I thought I would, because I
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  Speaker 16: think he would put in the time and effort, and
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  Speaker 16: there might there would be some bumps, some growing pains,
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  Speaker 16: but you know, I believe that he would at least
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  Speaker 16: give it a good shot to make it work. Nick say,
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  Speaker 16: first of all, I've meant to shout out Ali for
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  Speaker 16: the longest time. I have an uncle named Dolly. Sounds
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  Speaker 16: just like him, so I smell every time he calls.
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  Speaker 16: And I'll second when he said McVeigh would be the
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  Speaker 16: absolute best choice, even if you lose a draft pick.
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  Speaker 16: He has the experience, the innovation, and the leadership. You know,
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  Speaker 16: him running down the sidelines. He gets the guys going,
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  Speaker 16: and Ali, I do I accept. I'd be honored to
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  Speaker 16: run the team alongside with my storyline signer family.
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  Speaker 17: That would be awesome.
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  Speaker 11: All right.
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  Speaker 16: My pressing question for you is this, and I think
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  Speaker 16: it will shape the entire coaching search change. Slater said
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  Speaker 16: that Jerry's on a solo mission making call, reaching out
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  Speaker 16: to the coaching prospect So I need to know, is
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  Speaker 16: the yacht field up all right? Does it have a
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  Speaker 16: go with all right?
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  Speaker 1: You know they're not saying a lot Jerry and Steven.
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  Speaker 1: They're really being pretty quiet about this, so it's it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be fun. I mean, I don't love the coaching search,
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  Speaker 1: but we're here, you know, and this is the way
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  Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. Waiting, I don't know. Here's what I
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  Speaker 1: hate about the Witting thing. If it doesn't work out.
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  Speaker 1: Let's say it doesn't work out. Who but who right
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  Speaker 1: now that has followed the Cowboys for the last twenty
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  Speaker 1: years and further than that, of course, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: most most people that are Cowboy fans here that definitely
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  Speaker 1: been around. You've seen Wit and play right. Who hates
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  Speaker 1: Stason Witten? Who doesn't like Witten in any way? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: he's like he's like the favorite son, you know, go
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  Speaker 1: eight to nine in the first season or whatever, seven
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  Speaker 1: and ten and maybe have a couple of seasons like that.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I always think of Patrick Ewing and Georgetown.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick Ewing, he like was the greatest player in the
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  Speaker 1: history of Georgetown, and he goes to be the coach
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  Speaker 1: of pat you know, and they can't win a game
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  Speaker 1: and he gets fired. I think Clyde Drexler got fired
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  Speaker 1: coaching University of Houston. Scott froth at Nebrass went back home,
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  Speaker 1: didn't last long, Jason Garrett, you could say that here.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, who didn't like Jason Garrett? What a great
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  Speaker 1: story all this. He's the head coach now, like Garrett's
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  Speaker 1: got to go. So I just think about that, like,
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  Speaker 1: can you imagine a time where Witton's name would be
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  Speaker 1: you know, like it didn't work out, Jason, get get
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  Speaker 1: rid of the witting. I don't know, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if that's just that's just weird to me. And I
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  Speaker 1: guess that's a that's a glass glass half empty approach.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, because it's just hard to win. It's just
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  Speaker 1: hard to win. And I just can't imagine a time
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  Speaker 1: where that would be. You know, people would think that way,
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  Speaker 1: and you know that's that's probably a lot what Will
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  Speaker 1: mcclay's thinking right now too. You know, everyone wants Will
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  Speaker 1: to be the GM or Jared to lose that time. Will.
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  Speaker 1: I talked to Will just the other day and I
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  Speaker 1: kind of jokingly asked him, Hey, you know you've been
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  Speaker 1: a coach before in the Arena League, you know you
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  Speaker 1: want some of that. And he's like, no, no, I'm
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  Speaker 1: good there. And he even said like he's got a great,
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  Speaker 1: great situation.
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  Speaker 5: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: There, they got to make sure and keep him. But
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  Speaker 1: let's keep rolling here. We got Travis and Santonio's been
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  Speaker 1: waiting a lot. Travis. What's up, man, Nick?
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  Speaker 7: What are we doing?
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  Speaker 2: Uh?
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  Speaker 5: Ruining? Uh?
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  Speaker 7: Ruining beams perfect game and bowling talk.
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  Speaker 6: About a perfect game?
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  Speaker 7: Ruined the no, No, what's going on here?
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't a perfect game. I think he got an
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  Speaker 1: eight like it or nine in the first pin or
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  Speaker 1: two or whatever. But I tell you, I'll tell you
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  Speaker 1: what if you want to if you want to roll
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  Speaker 1: a nine, hand me the ball, okay, because I mean
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  Speaker 1: every time I bowl with Beam he calls me Romo.
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  Speaker 1: Because it doesn't matter. It could be nine. I don't
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  Speaker 1: pick it up. It could be an eight. I'll get one.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to get you nine all day long. And
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  Speaker 1: that that puts you right at one hundred.
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  Speaker 7: So hey, you're in that ninetieth percentile.
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  Speaker 1: It's not good at bowling. What's that?
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  Speaker 5: Man?
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  Speaker 7: But yeah, I just wanted the call, and I was.
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  Speaker 7: There was a call early talking about Aaron Glenn and
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  Speaker 7: like I said, I'm I know the other guy talked
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  Speaker 7: about witting news and I'm and you're not. You wouldn't
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  Speaker 7: talk about Dion real quick. I know I'm all place,
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  Speaker 7: but you talk about Dion. I'm kind of with you,
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  Speaker 7: like ultimately, and I know you're the same way I
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  Speaker 7: would support either one, like the off the cup guys
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  Speaker 7: of a d under Witten.
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  Speaker 1: You're going to Travis, You'll support Kellen Moore, You'll support
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  Speaker 1: anybody that you don't like. No, I'm just saying, because
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  Speaker 1: that's what it is. The Cowboys, you're just behind it.
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  Speaker 1: You don't like it at first, So yeah, you'll support
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  Speaker 1: all of them. But sorry, go ahead with your point.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I got I got you. But I was gonna say, like,
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  Speaker 7: I'm so you're not wrong about the DM thing because
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  Speaker 7: like I'm kind of with you, like, I don't know
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  Speaker 7: if I want to add, like to make it more
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  Speaker 7: of a circus, but maybe it would work out.
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  Speaker 6: Same thing with Witten.
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  Speaker 7: But I did want to throw something at you because
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  Speaker 7: I'm curious they So I've found out that the league
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  Speaker 7: got rid of the rule. And maybe you can correct
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  Speaker 7: me if I'm wrong, but they got rid of the rule.
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  Speaker 7: I guess Nick where if you're like you can't make
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  Speaker 7: a lateral move, and if you're a team like to
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  Speaker 7: keep a to keep a coach, you can do what
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  Speaker 7: they did with Al Harris, but they gave me associate
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  Speaker 7: head coach position type of thing. The rule, Yeah, but
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  Speaker 7: you can't. You no longer can take a guy as
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  Speaker 7: an OC, bring him in as an OC, and then
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  Speaker 7: get some title Like I guess that doesn't work anymore.
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  Speaker 7: It's not allowed. But I bring that up because you
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  Speaker 7: guys are talking about Aaron Glenn and like who he
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  Speaker 7: can bring it as a play caller And I know
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  Speaker 7: you're talking about like quarterback coaches, but there's a guy.
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  Speaker 7: The last guy, Kevin O'Connell was the guy that was in, uh,
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  Speaker 7: the the OC role like Shottenheimer was with the Rams
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  Speaker 7: with McVeigh, but McVay was calling plays. And now it's
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  Speaker 7: Michael fluor Matt with Fluur's brother, and that's the guy
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  Speaker 7: I would talk to. But it's a weird thing for them, Nick,
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  Speaker 7: And I don't know if the league has to like
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  Speaker 7: change the rule because like he's technically the OC like
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  Speaker 7: shot memory is right, but he's not actually calling plays,
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  Speaker 7: so wouldn't Like I guess I'm acting like should there
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  Speaker 7: be like a it's a gray area type of thing.
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  Speaker 7: Because it's like he's not calling play, so could he
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  Speaker 7: go somewhere else and call plays? I know he can't
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  Speaker 7: right now, but I think they should allow that.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think title is the is the key there. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's about duties and responsibilities because that gets
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  Speaker 1: really great. There's probably a lot of play callers around
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  Speaker 1: the league that aren't even calling play. You know, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of guys that are. That's the way Sean
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  Speaker 1: Payton was calling the plays with Parcels here. Parcells would
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  Speaker 1: be like Barber up the middle here three times in
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  Speaker 1: a row, Barber up the middle. Well, I'm great, who's
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  Speaker 1: calling the play then? I mean Sean Sean Payton may
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  Speaker 1: be calling exactly you know, the protection, but Bill just
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  Speaker 1: called the play, you know, So to say, well, you know.
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  Speaker 7: It's just weird because like those like Connor wants to
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  Speaker 7: call play like he is calling plays in Minnesota, but
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  Speaker 7: like he didn't do it until he got the head
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  Speaker 7: coach position, which is you know what I'm saying, it's
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  Speaker 7: kind of weird.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but go ahead, go ahead.
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  Speaker 7: Oh the last thing I was gonna say, I'll ACTU
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  Speaker 7: you take it off era is I was thinking two
• 45:40
  Speaker 7: more coaches that in the Witt and Vein that we
• 45:43
  Speaker 7: were talking about, like you you mentioned Eber plus. Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: there are two guys that I would like to bring
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  Speaker 7: back in this fantasy world if we're living in this world.
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  Speaker 7: Would be like Colombo. I know, if Sean Lee has
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  Speaker 7: already been a cudn't reporter, he doesn't want to coach,
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  Speaker 7: which I don't blame him, but like I would like
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  Speaker 7: to see like a Colombo or for instance, get your
• 45:59
  Speaker 7: thought outside to Shark choices with Texas coach running backs,
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  Speaker 7: So that would be an option to So just see
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  Speaker 7: what you thought there.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, have a great week, all right, Jovis appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Sark's names keeps coming up a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Steve sarkisian at Texas. I think he's I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not going to say candidate, you know right now,
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  Speaker 1: but it's you know, intriguing I'm sure, I'm sure you know,
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  Speaker 1: intriguing name. And that's the thing about about the Cowboys
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  Speaker 1: with Jerry. Anybody can throw any name out there and
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  Speaker 1: you can't dismiss it, you know, you can't be like now, no,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: well maybe I mean and he proved that thirty years ago.
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  Speaker 1: When he when he got Barry Switzer off the couch.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, so everybody's kind of on the table as
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  Speaker 1: far as well. I mean, would Jerry do that? Would
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  Speaker 1: he do? You know? Would he go to John Gruden
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  Speaker 1: or whatever?
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  Speaker 6: You know?
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's that's kind of that's part of it here.
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  Speaker 1: And Dion is in that mix and all that. So
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  Speaker 1: all right, let's go to Ronnie in New Jersey.
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  Speaker 9: Ronnie, Yes, hey, Nick, how are you doing? Not too bad?
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  Speaker 9: I was listening to you, Nick, and listening about the
• 47:23
  Speaker 9: all the coaching, all the inquiring minds are going crazy
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  Speaker 9: now over what we want as a coach and man
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  Speaker 9: and and you said it, We said it a few times.
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  Speaker 9: The first thing I want is Will McLay, Like we
• 47:37
  Speaker 9: got to keep Will McClay above all. And and is
• 47:41
  Speaker 9: that like a deal breaker for him?
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  Speaker 6: I thought?
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  Speaker 9: He, I know he's not you know, d g M.
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  Speaker 9: That's Jerry Jones's title. But is he hasn't he always
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  Speaker 9: been part of the decision maker as to where they
• 47:57
  Speaker 9: should go as poor coach head coach? Is that not
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  Speaker 9: always been a thing for him?
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Or is this what Will m clay getting getting to
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  Speaker 1: decide who the coach is?
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  Speaker 9: Well, not basically his decision. I know, it's like collaborated,
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  Speaker 9: you know, But has he always been part of that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure, yeah, I mean, yeah, he's probably been
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  Speaker 1: a part of it. But but not I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know how much he's he's he's really
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  Speaker 1: a part of it. He might be more this year
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  Speaker 1: than before, because you know, you want to have a
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: working relationship. Like Will McLay doesn't want there to be
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: four or five different coaches every two or three years.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: He probably likes the fact that it's a stable situation
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: as far as Jerry, Jerry believes in continuity. And while
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: fans say, all right, this guy stops eight and eight,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: fire him where you start all over and and and that,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: and that's not easy to do in the whole organization here,
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  Speaker 1: for the whole building. That's not what people want to do.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: So I think I think Will, you know, Will's like,
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  Speaker 1: if they are making a move, you know, I'd like
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: to have a say in it, just so I can
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  Speaker 1: you know, or at least understand what kind of coach
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  Speaker 1: you're bringing in and what kind of players he wants
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  Speaker 1: so they can get on the same page.
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  Speaker 9: I do have a question for you. Like I know,
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  Speaker 9: Jerry Jones has always said that money has never everybody
• 49:20
  Speaker 9: would be surprised how much money he will pay in
• 49:23
  Speaker 9: order to win a Super Bowl. So wouldn't that be
• 49:27
  Speaker 9: there's no like you said it, everybody said it, there's
• 49:29
  Speaker 9: no salary cap into how much money you could pay coaches.
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  Speaker 9: So why not invest the players? Yes, we have some
• 49:36
  Speaker 9: great a few great great players, but you know it's
• 49:39
  Speaker 9: not like the team is over. You know, talent is
• 49:42
  Speaker 9: that if you can't could make up in coaching, talent
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  Speaker 9: as in coaching and get great coaching, why not overpaid
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  Speaker 9: for great coaching? Like why not pay for some great
• 49:53
  Speaker 9: coaches that Yeah, they require more money, but hey, with
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  Speaker 9: the number one franchise in the world, not not in
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: the country, in the world as in money, in making money,
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  Speaker 9: So now why not just pay into that coaching whatever
• 50:09
  Speaker 9: it takes in too have great coaching. I love the
• 50:12
  Speaker 9: idea if I could just say, I love the idea
• 50:14
  Speaker 9: of Jason Witten, because Jason Witten and and Gruden either
• 50:19
  Speaker 9: one because of the aspect that they would demand respect.
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  Speaker 6: Jason went in.
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  Speaker 9: Wasn't one of those guys that you who never ever
• 50:27
  Speaker 9: say Jason went was like a soft person, soft player,
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  Speaker 9: but as a person, he the guy demands respect and
• 50:35
  Speaker 9: as a player, definitely demand that respect is the way
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  Speaker 9: he played and what he put into it. So I
• 50:41
  Speaker 9: would love somebody like a Jason Went and if it's
• 50:44
  Speaker 9: not him, somebody like him in that aspect that would
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  Speaker 9: demand respect out of the whole organization, not just the players.
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  Speaker 9: I'd like to hear your opinion on that. Thanks for
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  Speaker 9: taking my CALLT Maker, all.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Right, appreciate it. Thanks Ronnie as always. You know, that's
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: a great question that you asked about Jar Why not
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: pay more for great, great coaches? But I mean if
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: you look at the list of great coaches, or no,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: look at the list of salaries for coaches. I mean
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: the guys that are paying a lot aren't even great coaches.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: They haven't proven that. I mean Dan Campbell this year,
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: I mean Dan Campbell's making like eleven million this year.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: Now he was making it heading into this season. I
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: think the opinion of Dan Campbell's changed a lot this year.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: And they've had a great season, and he does look
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: like a really really good coach. But you know he
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: signed when he signed that contract, he hasn't really hadn't
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: proven himself that much?
• 51:51
  Speaker 5: Was it?
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Mike Michael McDonald is that his name in Seattle? He's
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: making like ten million a year. He just got there
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: and they didn't make the playoffs. So the point is
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: is that you can pay a lot, but you don't
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: even know kind of what you're getting. And that's why
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: I think, you know, McCarthy was a steal for Jerry
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: at around what eight million, And that was a steal
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: when you think about Sean Payton getting eighteen I mean,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: why is Sean Payton getting eighteen what's Sean Payton done?
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: He's won a Super Bowl one won one Super Bowl,
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame quarterback and Drew Brees, Well, you know,
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: that's kind of what McCarthy did. No, sorry, that's exactly
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: what McCarthy did. It's exactly what McCarthy did. So that's
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: probably what McCarthy's agent's saying. And this guy's making eighteen million,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: you know, a year, and you're you're paying my guy
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: eight He's been paid more than that, you know. So,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: but I don't I don't have the answer for that.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I do not have the answer of why Jerry doesn't
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: do that. I don't know. All right, let's go to uh,
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: Sheriff Lonnie's in Kansas.
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: What's up?
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: Man?
• 52:56
  Speaker 6: Who Nick?
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: How are you doing?
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: Oh? It's a little warmer today. It's gonna get to
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: a bomby thirty.
• 53:03
  Speaker 9: We had about nine inches.
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: Of snow last week, so, uh, it's been interesting. But
• 53:10
  Speaker 6: just a couple of things with Witton's I'm like you,
• 53:13
  Speaker 6: I he's probably not the right fit anyway, but I
• 53:18
  Speaker 6: don't want to seem get thrown out the door. I mean,
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: Whitton was the guy, Yeah he was. He was the
• 53:25
  Speaker 6: man there, and uh, I hate to see his legacy
• 53:29
  Speaker 6: go down in flames as a head coach for the Cowboy.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: It's such a negative like way of thinking, you know
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like saying, well, I don't want
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: to go here because I might get hurt, you know.
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: Or I you know, I don't want to go out
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: outside today. I might might get hit by bus. I mean,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: you can't you can't think like that. But I'm just saying,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: you know, he usually doesn't end perfectly, you know what
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: I mean. He usually doesn't end where they you know,
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: host this, you know, hosts the Super Bowl Trophy and
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: say all right, I'm out, I'm in the sunset. You know,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: John worked for John Elway, That's about it. It doesn't
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: only work like that. And now John Elway is like
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: when when he like the GM of the Broncos and
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: then they think differently about him. So that's another person
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: to put on that list there as well.
• 54:12
  Speaker 6: So yeah, absolutely, But now I'm a little excited and
• 54:17
  Speaker 6: apprehensive of how this is going to go. Yeah, sure,
• 54:23
  Speaker 6: you know, I'm on the fancy either way of which
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: way to go with the coach? Do you get one
• 54:27
  Speaker 6: that's been there, done that right, or do you go
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: with new uh maybe something different. Yeah, you've got a
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: team that's probably not going to be a lot better.
• 54:41
  Speaker 6: Their record probably isn't going to be much more. You
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: can't expect them this year regardless. It's going to take
• 54:50
  Speaker 6: a lot of work and uh so maybe getting getting
• 54:56
  Speaker 6: somebody that's been there to kind of maybe fix it.
• 54:59
  Speaker 6: But then again, who knows. I'm not a Kellen Moore
• 55:04
  Speaker 6: fan myself.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Well, I know I get it. I mean I I
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: I understand that, and that he doesn't you know, it
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be like the most exciting higher I understand that.
• 55:18
  Speaker 6: So but you got but you're only gonna Jerry's only
• 55:21
  Speaker 6: gonna pay so much. Yeah, that's all there is to it.
• 55:24
  Speaker 6: And you know it's his dollar that you're that you're
• 55:27
  Speaker 6: playing on, so you know he's got that right. Yeah,
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: and but still hopefully just whoever he gets will be
• 55:38
  Speaker 6: somebody that brings a little bit of discipline to the team.
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: McCarthy just you know, the ball didn't bounce his way
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: sometimes and that's the way it is.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in his in the in.
• 55:50
  Speaker 6: The years he won. You know, you can get to
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: the playoffs, but you've got to have you got to
• 55:56
  Speaker 6: have basically kind of that luck. Uh things. You know,
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: nobody the right guys don't get hurt whatever. So well,
• 56:06
  Speaker 6: and it is what it is. But yeah, just looking
• 56:09
  Speaker 6: forward to Uh, I love watching all this stuff and
• 56:13
  Speaker 6: all the names that get thrown out. That's kind of crazy,
• 56:16
  Speaker 6: uh be on, Yeah, that'd be okay. But I don't
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: see him leaving uh where he's at, because that'd be
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: another one that would He can't. His brand isn't going
• 56:29
  Speaker 6: to come to Dallas. It's not about the brand in
• 56:32
  Speaker 6: the NFL. Yeah, and he's got it made.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah all right, you know, well I appreciate the call.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Sheriff. Sheriff Lannie in Kansas you know, Deon's
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Dion's brand. You know, I think it would work anywhere.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: I don't think that would be the issue. I just think,
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: you know, Dion knows the list of the coaching salaries,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure he's gonna want to be uh at
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: the top or close to it, regardless of if if
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: he's you know, coached a game or not. And the
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: thing about that is, if Dion is your head coach,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: you've got to You've got to pair him up with
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: with offensive and defensive coordinators that have been around. And
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: that's the same with Witten. You know, Witten and and
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Dion are very similar to this. And if Witten, if
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Witten is the is the coach, there's gonna be a
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: lot of critics about that. And and I think we
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: I think you guys know what I'm talking about. There
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: be a lot of critics of why why he got
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: the the you know, the opportunity to do this. You
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: can make the same case for Dion. Both of these
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: guys have been on the fast track when it comes
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: to coaching. They they they are, They've got the positions
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: that they've had because they were great players, and they
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: have the personality and the chrisma and all that stuff.
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: But they've both been on the fast track in their
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: own way to get to this point. And you know,
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: but can make the case. Jason Garrett, you know, he
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: did it kind of quickly. Dan Campbell, I mean, you
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: know these guys, weren't they They they kind of got
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: you know, and and and they should and rightfully so
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: they played in the league and they earned it. Uh,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: let's go, let's go to break real quick, because I
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: got to get it the break. I know, I got
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: Rob on the line. But let me go to break
• 58:28
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• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: Rob.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: What's up?
• 1:00:10
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• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: How are you good? How are you doing?
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 19: I'm good, I'm good, listening to everybody. I mean what
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 19: I hope fans realizing more than the fans, Jerry needs
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 19: to realize that it's a bigger uphill battle to win
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 19: now than it was five years ago when he hired McCarthy.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 19: When McCarthy came in, the Eagles, Washington, Green Bay, Detroit
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 19: were bad. Now they're better than you. So now you've
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 19: got to bring in a coach that is not learning
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 19: on the job. Like you know, I love Jason Whitten
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 19: as a player, but if you want to talk about
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 19: a media circus, you hire a high school coach to
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 19: coach the biggest name in sports, that would be ridiculous.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 19: I just think Jerry needs to change his attitude when
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 19: looking at a coach. I don't want to be competitive.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 19: I want to win a Super Bowl. Those are two
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 19: different coaches to me. You want to be competitive, go
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 19: hire Kellen Moore. He's Jason Garrett, He's Mike McCarthy. You're
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 19: pretty you're pretty much be in the same boat. You'll
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 19: have some success. You want to win a championship. Maybe
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 19: a John Gruden who checks all the boxes that Jerry loves,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 19: super Bowl winner, offensive minded quarterback.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 9: Guy.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 19: Uh what you can say what you want about Dion
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 19: Dion is with this team needs old school tough. He
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 19: walks in and I remember I always talked about Bill Belichick.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 19: If he's why I wanted him, is I need somebody
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 19: to have enough cachet to make up for Jerry push
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 19: Jerry out. You know, Jerry's not tough on the players.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 19: If he was, Zeke would have never been brought in
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 19: or kept on the team. The guy that was in
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 19: the shooting when he was in the car had never
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 19: been on the team. So I need a coach that's
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 19: going to make up for the You know, if Mom
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 19: is going to be soft, Dad can't or vice versa.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 19: And Dion is to me, out of all these people
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 19: would be that Dion would be hands on with everything.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 19: And the biggest thing is Dion want to come here
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 19: to just be competitives. He's coming to win a Super Bowl,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 19: So he would push Jerry, I think, out of everybody,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 19: to spend some money to go get these players. And uh,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 19: if Jerry actually made that move in it and and
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 19: Dion accepted, that would just show me that maybe Jerry's
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 19: changing his tune, because you would have to know that
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 19: going in that.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 9: Dion is not gonna bow down to Jerry's So.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 19: That's what I'm looking for. I would love it. Aaron Glenn,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 19: I think he checks the boxes. I just don't know
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 19: if they Maybe he's already got you know, hid in agreement,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 19: you know. But that's why I like.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 10: The people are like, it's going to be a circus.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 19: Regardless, regardless. Give me a guy that you know it's
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 19: got to. I like John Gruden because of that. I
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 19: think John Gruden could push back on Jerry a little bit.
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 19: That's all I'm looking for. So many needs to tell
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 19: Jerry the way you've been doing it, we can't do
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 19: it if we're going to beat the Eagles now, Washington, Rebay,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 19: t Detroit. They're above us right now. We need to
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 19: play catch up. The draft does not do that. Draft
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 19: and development does it. If you just look at Mazi
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 19: and Giton, they're probably never going to develop to where
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 19: you need them to be. So no, this team doesn't
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 19: need to rebuild. It needs to reload. You don't rebuild
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 19: what a two hundred and forty million dollars warter, But
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 19: you just don't. And if and if you, if you are,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 19: then you made a mistake.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, Rob, good good stuff, you know.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: I The Dion part I'm not going to be convinced
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: right now. I like, I think Rob. Rob's trying, you know,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: or not not trying to convince people, but like, you know,
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: I'm listening to it like that's fine. But the thing is,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: it would be so different than anything you've ever had
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: because and again, if you guys knew how much I
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: loved Dion Sanders growing up, I thought he was my
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: favorite player and he didn't even play for the Cowboys
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: until he did, and then it was lost my mind.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: And I had like a in college. I mean, we
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: had like a shrine for Dion Sanders. It was like
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: my favorite player. And then three or four years later,
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: I'm working for the Cowboys and he's there and I'm
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: covering them, and uh, it was, it was. It was
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: a unique situation. But I loved him as a player.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: The difference is we've never seen a coach that you know,
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: puts it kind of about himself and it's always about
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: the players, about the players, and Dion, you know, and
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: now he'll say that, but you know, it's it's a
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: lot about him as well. I mean it's it would
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: be a lot about him, but there sometimes you can
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: look at that and say that, you know, put it
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: all on me. That's what Jimmy did at times. You know,
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: he made the predictions, he put it on himself and
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: let the players go back it up. So there's two
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: ways to kind of look at it. That way. I
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: don't I don't know. We'll see. We may be doing
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: a lot of talk about this for nothing about for Dion,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: but still certainly a lot of fun. All right, let's go.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: We got two more callers here. Let's go, Robbie and
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: Coco Beach, Florida.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: What's up, Bud.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 15: How's your new season going.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: It's going going great. Talk about seventeen coaches that aren't
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: going to be here, but you know there's one. There's
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: one that will. We don't know who it is, but
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: there's one.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 15: Well, there're gonna be more than wonder be like thirty
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 15: five of them, only one head coach. Yeah, coordinators, right right,
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 15: right right, all the other ones, quality control, et cetera,
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 15: et cetera. So I talked about last season, I'll talk
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 15: about it again. I don't really care who we get
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 15: as a coach. You know, I was down with McCarthy.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 15: I wanted them to stay because I like consistency and
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 15: I think it could have done good things, but that
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 15: that ship was sales, so we move on the cowboy sents.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 15: We ope for the best. That being said, I'd like
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 15: to see somebody maybe Zim stay us or DC. Still
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 15: like to see a three four man. What do you
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 15: think the chances are that happening?
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 9: Maybe?
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 15: Yeah, I think Michael would be so good in it.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 15: I think it would just like eccentuate all the things
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 15: that Michael Parsons is so good that because we could
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 15: put him in three different spots to rush, five different
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 15: spots to rush, nobody know where he's coming if he's not.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 15: It just makes my mouth water think about how good
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 15: of a defense we'd have on that vein.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Though overshown man overshowing. Yeah, that's no, that hurt.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 15: That hurt a lot, didn't that.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully he can get back soon, but uh man
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: does him and him and Micah together just so exciting?
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: You know?
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 15: Yes, I agree wholeheartedly.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: We'll see you know, he's not he's not, he's not done.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 15: But I will I will totally agree with what you've
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 15: been preaching. Man, we spend money so far on CD
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 15: and Deck. We need to have a head coach. That's
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 15: offensive minded. I want to see us putting up forty
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 15: burgers this year and make the defense just go, hey, look,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 15: all we got to do is get a few picks
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 15: or a couple of secs.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 6: And we win the game.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 15: Yeah, and then maybe that's what feeds into our game
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 15: plan to make us win it. We can get up
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 15: by ten or fifteen points in the beginning of the
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 15: first half, first quarter or whatever. Yeah, And I'd like
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 15: to see us the explos again, because we were a
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 15: dominant team for well when we were that even under
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 15: with Tony back, with Jason Garrett and stuff, we were
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 15: awesome for well there too.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: Right well, there's no doubt about it. I mean that.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: And and I think they have talent here. Twelve picks
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: pretty pretty good. You know, player you can get in
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  Speaker 1: to to contribute right away, but he's got.
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  Speaker 15: To be able to go to get that running back.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta have a guy that that that
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  Speaker 1: can that helps you win week one of the season.
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  Speaker 1: Week one, he's the starter and he helps you win.
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  Speaker 1: You got to get that player. And I don't know what,
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  Speaker 1: I don't care what position that is. Really there could
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  Speaker 1: be seven positions. I get the most ready football player
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  Speaker 1: to plug right in and start and help you get better.
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  Speaker 1: Right now?
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  Speaker 5: All right, let me throw gears.
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  Speaker 15: If you only had to pick one position, which position
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  Speaker 15: would you want the most? And I agree with you
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  Speaker 15: what you just said, best player available.
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  Speaker 8: And we've got so many.
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  Speaker 15: Positions with wide receiver, guard, tackle, uh, defensive line, cornerback,
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  Speaker 15: linebacker maybe not as much maybe depending on entries. Running
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  Speaker 15: back for sure. I mean we need everything. What was
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  Speaker 15: your number one pick? If you could say this is
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  Speaker 15: the pick that we need. What guy? What positions you?
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  Speaker 5: Well?
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  Speaker 1: I mean if if they if it comes down to
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  Speaker 1: I like the running back, and I also like a
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  Speaker 1: path rusher, and I feel like there's some pass rushers
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  Speaker 1: there in that in that area. If there's a pass
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  Speaker 1: rusher that can come right in and he's opposite Michael Parsons,
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  Speaker 1: I take him. I take the pass rusher, uh, and
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  Speaker 1: then I take the running back. And you could maybe
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  Speaker 1: sell me on You could sell me on the tackle
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  Speaker 1: that was a great college tackle that has to move
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  Speaker 1: to guard. That's what Zach Martin did. I think the
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  Speaker 1: guy in Texas is going to have to do that.
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  Speaker 1: You could maybe sell me on that. But whoever it is,
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  Speaker 1: come right in and be able to play. We can
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  Speaker 1: start right now, no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 6: Sorry, Nick, I know you got to the calls man.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks, I appreciate it all right, this will probably be
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  Speaker 1: our last one. What a great one to end it
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  Speaker 1: on Dylan and Northport floor.
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  Speaker 6: Dylan, what's up, hey man? How you doing good?
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  Speaker 5: You good?
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  Speaker 17: I'm gonna put my prediction in for the coach right
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  Speaker 17: right now today, before Jerry even does any interviews or anything.
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  Speaker 17: I think when the Lions beat the Eagles in the
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  Speaker 17: conference championship game, I think Kellen Moore shortly thereafter will
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  Speaker 17: be the head coach. It just makes too much sense.
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  Speaker 17: He's malleable, which is agreeable with Jerry's style. He's done
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  Speaker 17: here before, so Jerry loves the homegrown guy and he
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  Speaker 17: can say, see, I knew he was a good coach
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  Speaker 17: all along, I told you so that's my batman. I
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  Speaker 17: think that just makes the most sense.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's a factor. Like but what you said is
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  Speaker 1: a factor hand picked that kind of stuff. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: go for it.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 17: It's a weird dynamic. Though I don't like the pick.
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  Speaker 17: I think it's what it's going to be. It's a
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  Speaker 17: weird dynamic because he was behind Dak on the roster.
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  Speaker 17: You know, Dak was his leader, and now he's got
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  Speaker 17: to show up and now be the main leader of
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  Speaker 17: the team. I don't I don't like that.
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  Speaker 6: I know.
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  Speaker 17: I called yesterday and I said, I want like a
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  Speaker 17: badass guy who is going to put the fear of
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  Speaker 17: God a little bit into some people and demand some respect.
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  Speaker 17: I don't think Kellen's that guy. So yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 17: love it, but I think that's what's going to be.
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  Speaker 17: And then just a real quick question, man, you said
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  Speaker 17: last Wednesday on my call that you know, Mike might
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  Speaker 17: have done a bit better than what we know from
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  Speaker 17: kind of public eye and it made us sound like
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  Speaker 17: maybe there was some drama behind the scenes, that he
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  Speaker 17: was kind of the glue to cut the team together.
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  Speaker 17: Is that true? Or am I kind of reading too
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  Speaker 17: far into that statement?
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  Speaker 1: You say that again, which part which you.
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  Speaker 17: Said that Mike McCarthy might have been better than we
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  Speaker 17: understand from the public point of view, because not everything
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  Speaker 17: was kind of out in a public ie. We only
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  Speaker 17: know so much, so it made me think that maybe
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  Speaker 17: there was some drama behind the scenes with Mike McCarthy
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  Speaker 17: that we just didn't know about. The maybe you knew about.
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  Speaker 17: I don't want to get anybody in trouble. And if
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  Speaker 17: that's not the case, then obviously just let us know.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't really I'd have to go back
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  Speaker 1: and listen to what I say. I say stuff all
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  Speaker 1: the time, but I know that there's stuff behind the
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  Speaker 1: scenes we don't know about, and so I can't there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing that there's no story that I'm sitting here going
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  Speaker 1: on if you only know this. No, No, it's not that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, sure there's some behind the scene things. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of stuff. I've heard stuff that
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  Speaker 1: you know, McCarthy, you know, but McCarthy got more of
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  Speaker 1: his way than people think that. And and so there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people in the building that thought it
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  Speaker 1: was probably time for a new voice, you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: time here there. The narrative here is that, and I
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: think Rob alluded to it as well, is that, yes,
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: there were a lot of wins. This team could beat
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: the average to below average teams, and they did that well,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: and there's something to be said for that, but they
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: weren't on the level with the with the teams that
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: were better. And when it came down to fighting, and
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: playing like here a big game or playoffs. Of course
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: they weren't good enough for that. So and we all
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: saw it. You guys saw it. You guys know that.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: And and you know when he was here the Giants
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: and they in Washington, and then Philly was okay, that's
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: about five wins a year. He split with Philly. You
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: sweep the other too. You're getting five wins right off
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: the bat. And that's not the case anymore with this
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: this division.
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  Speaker 17: Yeah, now we're we're in a tough spot moving forward.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 17: We got a lot of holes to sell on the team.
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  Speaker 17: I think this is an attractive position because you have
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 17: some core players. On the other hand, I think there's
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 17: some desirable other locations that are going to be available
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 17: that might be a little bit better than Dallas. You know,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 17: a new head coach coming in maybe get his way,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 17: And you just said Mike McCarthy got his way more
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  Speaker 17: than maybe we understand here. But there is that aspect
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  Speaker 17: where it's like Jerry really is hands on, you know,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 17: And I don't know if a lot of especially new
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  Speaker 17: head coaches like a Bean Johnson are necessarily going to
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 17: want to have a micromanager like that.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know if the micro manager is
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: the right word. I really I really don't think that's
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: that's the case.
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  Speaker 17: At least that's the perception that's out there, I'll say that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And that perception has been there, I mean, the
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: perceptions that Jerry's calling the place, you know, I mean,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: that was that's always been the perception and all that.
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  Speaker 1: I you know, there are some decisions that that I'm
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: sure Mike, Mike McCarthy wish he could have made that,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: didn't you know. And when it comes to the draft,
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, I know there were some players I know
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: firsthand there was a couple of players he didn't want
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  Speaker 1: that that were picked, you know, in front of in
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: front of him. And you know, Jerry made made those picks.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: I can think of three off off hand. Two of
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: them not so great, one of them was really good.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: So you know, that's kind of that's kind of the
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: way the way it goes. But that's always going to
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: be the case. I mean, you can get five five
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  Speaker 1: people in the inner room together to pick the next guy,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: they're gonna want different players. I mean that that's that's
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: part of it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah for sure. All right, Nick, Well, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 17: Man aggressive the week.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate it you too, guys. Great great show, great
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: show for sure, thirteen callers and got a first time caller,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: got to hear from some hear from the sheriff there
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: in Kansas, and a lot of the regulars that that
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: call all the time. They really make this show what
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: it is as you can hear. And I'm not really
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: one hundred today fighting through it though, and it was
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: great to be on with you guys today. And I
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: hate that it's once a week, but that's that's where
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: we are, and it's we need a little little break
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: in the action. And we still we got podcasts going,
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: just about two to three podcasts going every every day
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: Monday through Thursday, and then we'll turn it up again
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: next week. So that's our day is this is our
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: time slot nine thirty Central to about ten forty five.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: We'll go about an hour and fifteen minutes to get
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: all these calls in. Do it every Wednesday. We back
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: next Wednesday as well. I'm sure there'll be a lot
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: more news to talk about them. So for Chris Beam,
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  Speaker 1: I'm Nick Eatman. See you next week.
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