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Attack of Tim Cappello! · Movie Meltdown

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  Speaker 7: hour of hell.
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  Speaker 1: What's up?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Movie Meltdown's Attack of the Killer soundtrack.
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  Speaker 8: I'm Brian.
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  Speaker 5: I'm Misty.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Jay.
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  Speaker 2: And we're coming to you live via digital recording from
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  Speaker 2: the outskirts of the Whirling Tiger.
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  Speaker 1: Woo!
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  Speaker 2: Home of tonight's very special appearance. Yeah. Misty, how fired
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  Speaker 2: up are you?
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  Speaker 5: I'm so excited. I actually intend to leave the house.
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  Speaker 2: That's rare for you these days.
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  Speaker 4: It's very.
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  Speaker 5: I'll go out for certain things, but concerts and stuff,
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  Speaker 5: I'm just like, ugh, people. Especially at night. I don't
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  Speaker 5: like going out at night.
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  Speaker 1: Bell rang.
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  Speaker 5: It scared me. But yes. Should I say who we're
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  Speaker 5: going to see? Or do you want to say who
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  Speaker 5: we're going to see?
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  Speaker 2: No, go ahead and tell them.
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  Speaker 5: We are going to see the glorious splendor that is
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  Speaker 5: the sexy sax man, Tim Capello.
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  Speaker 2: That is how he has been and forever will be known.
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  Speaker 2: The sexy sax man.
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  Speaker 5: I wonder if you prefer Tim or Timmy.
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  Speaker 2: I've actually seen him credited as Timmy. So I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to ask him what's the way he
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  Speaker 2: likes to be addressed.
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  Speaker 5: When he emailed you, did he sign off in any
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  Speaker 5: particular fashion?
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  Speaker 2: Sexy socks man.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Sergio? What was the wax that we saw?
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  Speaker 1: The oil.
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  Speaker 5: Sergio's hot wax or oil. I'm so disappointed in myself
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  Speaker 5: for having not bought that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe tonight.
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  Speaker 1: Could be.
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  Speaker 2: There will be merch. Get your merch. Come to his show.
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  Speaker 2: Get your merch. That's what I'm telling you now.
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  Speaker 5: Isn't it late? Is this going out directly? He's on tour.
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  Speaker 2: He can go to many cities. Whatever city you're in
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  Speaker 2: right now, look for him. Go see the Sexy Sax Man.
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  Speaker 1: Buy some merch.
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  Speaker 5: I haven't seen him yet, but I'm pretty sure I
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  Speaker 5: can almost guarantee that you will not be disappointed.
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  Speaker 2: How could you?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, he's glorious.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, we know who we're talking about. We
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  Speaker 2: know what we're here for. Should we go ahead and
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  Speaker 2: kick off the music and get right into it? Because
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  Speaker 2: we know we have to play the main song, so
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  Speaker 2: we'll just get people into it right now.
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  Speaker 5: Wasn't the very first episode that you did of this
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  Speaker 5: that I was on, wasn't that one of my choices?
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: You also did the theme song at one point, too.
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  Speaker 2: The Cry Little Sister.
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  Speaker 5: I might have doubled up on Lost Boys.
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  Speaker 2: You might have.
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  Speaker 5: It seems like something I would do.
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  Speaker 1: It does.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, we definitely played Cry Little Sister on this before, but...
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  Speaker 2: If nothing else, I mean, on his episode, we have
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  Speaker 2: to play the greatest song ever.
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  Speaker 5: I still believe. That is not a good rendition.
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  Speaker 2: We'll just have him do it.
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  Speaker 5: Because it's the best.
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  Speaker 1: Does anybody feel like going to vampire church?
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  Speaker 3: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: Then. Woo!
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  Speaker 9: 40 days, only a spark to light my way.
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  Speaker 1: I want to give out. I want to give in.
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  Speaker 3: This is our crime.
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  Speaker 10: This is our sin. But I still believe, still believe
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  Speaker 10: through the pain, through the grief, through the lies.
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  Speaker 11: Rise through the wars.
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  Speaker 9: I don't mind the fact Out.
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  Speaker 10: At sea Hoping the waves Don't cover me Turned and
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  Speaker 10: tossed Upon.
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  Speaker 1: The waves When the darkness comes I feel the breeze
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  Speaker 1: But I.
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  Speaker 12: Still believe Still believe Through the cold Through the heat
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  Speaker 12: Through the rain, through the tears, through the crowds.
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  Speaker 3: I'll march this road.
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  Speaker 11: I'll climb this hill upon my knees. If I have to,
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  Speaker 11: I'll take my place upon this stage.
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  Speaker 3: I'll wait till the.
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  Speaker 1: End of time for you.
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  Speaker 3: I still.
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  Speaker 10: Believe through the shame through the grief through the heartache
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  Speaker 10: through the tears.
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  Speaker 12: We need all the hope.
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  Speaker 3: We can get.
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  Speaker 5: Which i didn't realize it was an actually actually a
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  Speaker 5: cover song the call yeah i didn't know that yeah
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  Speaker 5: yeah because to me there's only one version of that
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  Speaker 5: song that matters.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he he claimed it from him i mean
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  Speaker 2: really they were just sitting there not doing anything with
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  Speaker 2: it obviously and he was like uh give me that
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  Speaker 2: i'll i'll take it from here.
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  Speaker 5: Was he doing that song before the movie came out
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  Speaker 5: i wonder or was it like already in his repertoire
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  Speaker 5: you should ask i didn't know if it was already
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  Speaker 5: like something he was already doing or if.
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  Speaker 2: This is something that was scripted, but they were like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: we need you to do this song for the movie. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's what I want to find out, because I've heard
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  Speaker 2: differing stories on... Well, actually, I mean, I've heard so
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  Speaker 2: many things about Schumacher over the years. I think a
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  Speaker 2: lot of good things. I think he turned out some
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  Speaker 2: great films. But, yeah, I don't know with that one
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  Speaker 2: how much of it was planned out ahead of time
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  Speaker 2: and what he pieced together in editing. So, yeah, it'll
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  Speaker 2: be interesting to hear his side of it.
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  Speaker 5: I don't even know if I'll be able to speak
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  Speaker 5: or if I'll just be like, it's a sexy sex man.
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  Speaker 5: Were we talking about the, uh, Turner version or the
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  Speaker 5: Tina Turner song?
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  Speaker 1: Sure.
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  Speaker 5: Because he played a part in her movie of what's
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  Speaker 5: love got to do with it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think himself, right? He was her keyboardist and...
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  Speaker 2: eventually saxophone player because he did.
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  Speaker 5: Every goddamn thing oh yeah i read online.
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  Speaker 2: He can play drums he can because that's one of
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  Speaker 2: the other movies he's in he's playing drums so it's.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah a man of many talents and wonders who also
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  Speaker 5: is in the song we don't need another hero i
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  Speaker 5: love that song.
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  Speaker 8: Out of the ruins Out from the wreckage Can't make
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  Speaker 8: the same mistake.
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  Speaker 3: This time.
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  Speaker 13: Last generation.
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  Speaker 3: We are the ones left behind.
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  Speaker 8: And I wonder when we are ever going to change.
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  Speaker 8: Living under the fear till nothing else remains.
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  Speaker 13: Looking for something We can rely on There's got to
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  Speaker 13: be something better out there Love.
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  Speaker 3: And compassion That day is coming.
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  Speaker 13: All else are cats that's building the air.
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  Speaker 6: And I wonder when we are.
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  Speaker 13: Ever gonna change.
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  Speaker 6: Living under the fear till nothing else remains. All the
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  Speaker 6: children say we we do with our lives we leave
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  Speaker 6: our ways among.
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  Speaker 7: Remember, no matter where you go.
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  Speaker 3: There you are.
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  Speaker 2: It's awesome. And yeah, it's one of those, it's so
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  Speaker 2: perfectly made for that movie and the fact that she's
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  Speaker 2: in that movie. Wait a minute, which movie?
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  Speaker 1: Thunderdome. Oh yeah, Thunderdome.
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  Speaker 2: Hell yeah, Thunderdome was awesome. A weird alternate future apocalyptic
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  Speaker 2: universe version of Tina Turner, essentially. Because she's still awesome
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  Speaker 2: like Tina Turner, but the world's falling apart. We gotta
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  Speaker 2: fight for water or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: That's what we were talking about. This was like reality.
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  Speaker 2: Fight for gasoline. Wait, oh no, that's what we're about
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  Speaker 2: to do now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: We just haven't donned the assless chaps yet.
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  Speaker 1: Yet.
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  Speaker 5: Speak for yourself.
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  Speaker 2: You guys don't see. Misty's concert attire.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Jared. I'm Andy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Kristen. We're Repeat Repeat and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 1: Hell yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Which we have met him at a convention before and
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  Speaker 5: he was delightful and I'm hoping he'll be equally delightful.
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  Speaker 2: That was kind of what sold me because these days
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  Speaker 2: I'm pretty particular on who I even want to talk to.
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  Speaker 2: It's like so much trying to put episodes together anyway
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  Speaker 2: and then definitely trying to work in special guests so
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  Speaker 2: it's like a lot of times anymore i'm just like
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  Speaker 2: they're too much trouble i don't know that person they
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  Speaker 2: might not be interesting they might not be cool but
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  Speaker 2: we know both are true of tim because we met
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  Speaker 2: him before and he was super cool and very.
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  Speaker 5: Interesting yes he is one of my favorite photos in
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  Speaker 5: my top five photos of me with celebrities would be
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  Speaker 5: me and timmy capello.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we've held out as long as we can
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  Speaker 2: stand it. We're excited to sit down and talk with him,
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  Speaker 2: so let's get to it as we get to know
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  Speaker 2: more about Tim Capella. Usually I start at the very
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  Speaker 2: beginning with people and kind of figure out how they
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  Speaker 2: got where they ended up. So when you were little,
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  Speaker 2: were you immediately sort of drawn to music or what
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  Speaker 2: was it artistically that you kind of gravitated toward?
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  Speaker 1: There was never any choice for me. My father was
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  Speaker 1: a trumpet player, a conductor, and owned a music school.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So we would go down... after school every day, me
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  Speaker 1: and my friends. And, you know, from the age of
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  Speaker 1: like three, he would bring me and I would pound
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  Speaker 1: on the piano and beat on the drums. And it
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  Speaker 1: was just all these, it was so fascinating to me,
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  Speaker 1: all these ways you could make noise. And, um, it,
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  Speaker 1: it just stuck. It just became a thing that I just,
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  Speaker 1: that was the center of my, social life as well
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  Speaker 1: was going down there. So I decided, my father kind
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  Speaker 1: of made a deal with me. You can play the drums,
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  Speaker 1: but you have to play a classical instrument too. So
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  Speaker 1: he shoved the cello on me. And I.
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  Speaker 2: Even cooler version of the sax, the cello.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right. I actually made a mistake because I was
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  Speaker 1: fascinated by jazz and the sound of the string bass.
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  Speaker 1: So I thought it was called a cello. I was
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  Speaker 1: only like three or four. So I, I said, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I want to play that cello. And he was overjoyed
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  Speaker 1: because he was a frustrated cellist. So even though I
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  Speaker 1: was pointing at a bass, he was like, that's that. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: You can play the drums.
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  Speaker 2: It's all right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It was, it was, I didn't get the best of
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  Speaker 1: that deal, but, but, but I did get to, Take
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  Speaker 1: drum lessons and, you know, which is a great basis,
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  Speaker 1: I think, to start out your musical.
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  Speaker 2: You can't have any of the rest of it without
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  Speaker 2: a good bottom line.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah. That's right. It's all about the pocket. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So then I guess moving forward as you got into it,
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  Speaker 2: at what point did you decide, I think this is
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  Speaker 2: going to be like attempt to be a career and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, everything?
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  Speaker 1: Uh-huh. Well, from cello, I stopped that and... I kept
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  Speaker 1: playing drums, but I got interested in the piano. I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was a great way to learn harmony. You
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  Speaker 1: could play something by yourself and sing along with it.
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  Speaker 1: It was just a great way to also visualize harmony.
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  Speaker 1: So I learned sort of the piano by myself and
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  Speaker 1: then went to a jazz teacher. yeah and by that
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  Speaker 1: time i was pretty much done with the drums as
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  Speaker 1: well as the cello and so i was a pianist
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  Speaker 1: for a little while and then at about 13 i
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  Speaker 1: picked up the saxophone as well but kept on with
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  Speaker 1: my uh with my keyboard lessons.
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  Speaker 2: Was there something specific about the sax? As later it
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  Speaker 2: became so synonymous with you, was there a connection immediately?
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  Speaker 1: Kind of like what classical people do say about the cello.
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  Speaker 1: The tenor saxophone is around the same range as a cello.
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  Speaker 1: And people always say, oh, well, the cello sounds very
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  Speaker 1: much like a human voice. To me, the saxophone sounded
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  Speaker 1: more like a human voice that I was used to.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't too crazy about its scratchiness and its sort
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  Speaker 1: of inherent softness. That's not the way we spoke. With
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  Speaker 1: a saxophone, you can go from a whisper to a scream.
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  Speaker 1: You can't really scream on a cello.
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  Speaker 2: It's got a little soul to it. Where so many
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  Speaker 2: other wind instruments, it's kind of hard to get to
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  Speaker 2: that level. They've got classical built into them, but You know,
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  Speaker 2: there's no soul to it.
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  Speaker 1: It's not... I mean, you know, the saxophone was invented
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  Speaker 1: as a... for marching bands.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So that it was kind of built on different versions
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  Speaker 1: of a clarinet, but something that was made of brass
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  Speaker 1: so it could be louder.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And so when military bands or sporting events or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: it was something that... And then it just sort of
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  Speaker 1: caught on with, it was the perfect, by coincidence, it
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  Speaker 1: was the perfect match with jazz music, right? So it
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  Speaker 1: was 1870, the saxophone was invented by Adolph Sax. And
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  Speaker 1: when jazz started at the, end of the 19th century
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the 20th century it really i think people
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  Speaker 1: just realized this was a great jazz instrument it was
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  Speaker 1: loud but you didn't have to play it super loud
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  Speaker 1: you had a lot of variation in the song um
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  Speaker 1: in the sounds you could make you because you had
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  Speaker 1: a read that let you go up and down sort
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  Speaker 1: of like a cello or a violin where it would
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  Speaker 1: let you slide um That really gave it a vocal
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  Speaker 1: quality to it.
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  Speaker 2: And were you influenced by specific people? Were you leaning
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  Speaker 2: towards jazz or was it more of rock?
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  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: What kind of people were you into, I guess, early on?
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  Speaker 1: Early on, I was mostly a jazzer. My favorites were, well,
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  Speaker 1: it was interesting. My father died when I was very young.
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  Speaker 1: And he had a wall in the basement that just
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  Speaker 1: went around the whole room of LPs. And one day
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  Speaker 1: I just was flipping through and I saw this record
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  Speaker 1: that sort of intrigued me by a man named Lenny Tristano.
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  Speaker 1: And he was a pianist, but I loved what he did.
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  Speaker 1: And I loved the fact that he taught saxophone players,
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  Speaker 1: some very influential saxophone players. So I became interested in
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  Speaker 1: that kind of jazz. I became interested in more progressive.
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  Speaker 1: He was very progressive as well, but more of the
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  Speaker 1: 60s John Coltrane, you know, and people that were, like
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  Speaker 1: Ornette Coleman, people that were really progressive as well as,
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  Speaker 1: you know, my... particular hero was Captain Beefheart, who played
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  Speaker 1: soprano saxophone.
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  Speaker 2: That definitely gets into the rock world.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. But on the other hand, because of that, there's
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  Speaker 1: huge holes in my knowledge of rock music, because I
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  Speaker 1: was only into the really progressive side of it. And
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  Speaker 1: people like Joe Henderson and Coltrane and Charlie Parker, Lester Young,
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  Speaker 1: those people so if you were to ask me what
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  Speaker 1: the songs are on Led Zeppelin 4 I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 1: able to tell you a thing so and still to
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  Speaker 1: this day I haven't gone back and listened to what
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  Speaker 1: everybody was listening to.
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  Speaker 2: So much yeah it's like everybody's kind of hit and
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  Speaker 2: miss but I mean I guess we're definitely jumping ahead
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  Speaker 2: but by the time you get to I mean working
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  Speaker 2: with somebody as big as Peter Gabriel like What led
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  Speaker 2: to kind of getting in that level? Because, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: that's pretty huge at that point for him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I was studying at the New England Conservatory,
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  Speaker 1: a saxophone major. And I was lucky enough to have
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  Speaker 1: gone to school with a fantastic drummer who also had
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  Speaker 1: a brother who was older and who was also a
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  Speaker 1: famous and amazing talent. The Marotta Brothers, M-A-R-O-T-T-A. Jerry was
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  Speaker 1: in my class in school. His brother Rick was older.
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  Speaker 1: Rick was already into the New York music session scene.
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  Speaker 1: He was playing with people like Aretha Franklin and Steely Dan.
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  Speaker 1: And he was just, he was just, he was in it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And so either Jerry, who was Peter Gabriel Strummer at
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  Speaker 1: the time, he said, I was up in Boston at
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  Speaker 1: New England, and I wanted to come down and study
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  Speaker 1: with Lenny Tristano. So he said, well, why don't you
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  Speaker 1: come down? Let's get a place together, split the rent,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm already doing some work, and so maybe I
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  Speaker 1: can get you on some gigs. And one of the
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: brothers got me pretty much every gig I ever did.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: That's a good deal. Or one away. Like in other words,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: they would get me a gig. Somebody would see me
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: on that gig and then give me another gig. So
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: they really were– without them, I never would have– like
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: in other words, we were playing with sort of a
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: James Taylor imitator who was pretty popular on the East
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Coast that no one remembers anymore. But there was an
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: opening act, a comedian– And he said, who's the piano player?
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: And I raised my hand. He said, would you mind
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: coming up and doing some stuff with me? We'll improvise.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: We'll see what it's like. I have a couple of
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: pieces that might use some music. And that was Billy
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Crystal before he was famous. And so I went up.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: It worked out great. I was his pianist for five
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: years maybe. Even played some saxophone with him. And when
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: he had sort of jazzy kind of pieces.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: He did a lot of character stuff early on.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: And was into Sammy Davis Jr.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: And all that. We were talking about, he had a
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: bit called Face, which was an old jazz guy. And
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: he would tell these funny stories about, you know, this
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: was a dying breed of guys who were really, really
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: funny dudes. And- just had their own way. They were
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: intellectuals and they were just really advanced people in every way,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: musically and intellectually and emotionally. They had this wonderful thing.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: So he wrote this and we were sort of working
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: on it together and I was playing the saxophone. He said,
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: bring your sax this time. And we did it on
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live. It went over great and was a
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: real turning point in his career.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: Well, and then, yeah, I was just– I know leading
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: up to eventually Happy at the Tina's, I mean, was
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: there a step in between?
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, God, a million.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like getting from working with Peter Gabriel
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: and then just where it gets around and does Tina
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: approach you or how do you end up with Tina?
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: So I was with– You know, some local bands that
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: had record deals. People had record deals in those days.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: What's a record?
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: This was the mid-70s. People would sign with Columbia or
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Warner Brothers, even if they weren't well-known. If they thought
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: that there was a chance, you know, they would just
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: throw as many bands against the wall and see who
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: would stick. So you were always working with some band
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: that never amounted to anything but made two records for Columbia.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Or two or three records for Warner Brothers or A
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: & M or, you know, when there were real record deals. Yeah.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: You know, they paid for everything. They paid for your
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: studio time. They gave you an advance.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: That was the gold.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: Ticket for an up and coming band. If you get signed,
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: even if you don't go anywhere.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right. And they would even give you tour support. Yeah.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Nobody does anything like that now.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. They would put you on the road and you'd
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: play the Roxy in LA and you'd play the bottom
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: line in New York. And you'd get a chance to
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: play a lot of places. They'd put you on the
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: road maybe for three or four weeks just to see
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: how it felt. They never told you the truth.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Well, that's their job.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: They would just say, you guys are awesome. You guys
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: are really killing it. Meanwhile, they're going, I'm not crazy
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: about the reaction.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: We might cut these guys as soon as this contract
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: is up.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: They're definitely not going to get picked up. So we
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: did a lot of that. Everybody was working in the 70s. So, again,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: my friend Jerry... Well, there was a guy... I was
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: always playing in clubs. I was just always around, always
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: sitting in or playing with some local band. And all
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: really good people. And so... Managers, agents, lawyers. Lawyers were
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: always in the mix. Would come down, record people, and
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: hunt to see who could be the next Springsteen or whatever.
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: And so sometimes sidemen would get gigs. So I got
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: a gig with a guy named Eric Carman.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: All by myself.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. He was a big soundtrack guy, too.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: He was on Dirty Dancing, I think.
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Yes. Something Eyes. Hungry Eyes. Hungry Eyes.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember him.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: So he had another hit. But before that, he was
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: with a group called The Raspberries out of Cleveland. And
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: they had Never Gonna Fall In Love Again. They had
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Go All The Way. That was a big hit, huge
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: hit for them. And then Eric went on his own
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: because he was the lead singer and the piano player.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: And had All By Myself and, you know, a couple
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: other hits. And so I did him. Then there was
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: this really great sort of combination between... He was kind
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: of like a Lou Reed, but with a lot of
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: reggae thrown in. And a very... Like he was very...
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Very intellectual. He was really a poet. But he also
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: was really funky and especially with reggae because he had
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: a very reggae sounding voice named Garland Jeffries. And although
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: he didn't make too much of a splash, he was
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: always around. So then from Garland, Jerry Murata was in
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: that band too. And he got me into Peter's band.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: And so I did one record and one tour with Peter.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: And then I went to Carly Simon's band. And then
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I went to Tina's band. Because his brother Rick, the
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: older Murata brother, Tina's manager was looking for a saxophone
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: player and a keyboard player. So Rick said, I know
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: a guy that can do both. He could save yourself
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: some money. Two in one. Yeah.
• 33:27
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: So that's how I got into Tina's band. And it
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: was funny because the way I did my audition, they
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: were at this point, Tina was not much private dancer.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: It hadn't come out, but what's love got to do
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: with it? Hadn't quite hit. So she was still doing her,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Disco Inferno kind of days.
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: That dip in between, you know, after the couple breaks up,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: you know. It's amazing that she ended up being able
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: to come out and make.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: It on her own. Oh, yeah. So, yeah. So this
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: was just before she really hit big. Yeah. We were
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: doing McDonald's conventions, really tiny little casinos. And she had
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: all these contracts that she had to fulfill even after
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: stuff started to hit. So we were still doing McDonald's
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: conventions when she was at the top of the charts.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: That's crazy. You know, because you can't renege.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: On a contract. No, once you're signed on, yeah.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: It's not good karma. So what she did was she
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: was playing some little gig and she had me play
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: a solo from offstage. So this is really Tina's personality. She...
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: So there was this saxophone coming from nowhere. And she said,
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: that was a guy we were trying out. Maybe we'll
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: keep him. And so then that started it. She kept me.
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: And that started it. So I learned the whole thing.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I learned all the keyboard parts and everything that, you know,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: if there was percussion, I would have to learn that.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: If there was harmonica, I'd have to learn that. We
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: were called utility players because we could play guitar and
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: keyboards and saxophone, of course. There's usually all of the saxophones,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: but at least tenor and alto and whatever you had
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: to do because you couldn't give it to the drummer
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: to play. They were busy. Everybody else in the band
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: was busy.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: By that time, you'd already kind of adopted what became
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: your signature look. So did that tie in? Because later, like,
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: was she assigning specific things to you? Because I know
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: there's a clip I'd seen from probably later into the tour,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: but like, private dancer and you had this extended saxo.
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: So by that time, had she already just kind of
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: gotten attached to you and wanted to make you a
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: bigger part of it?
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: No, that was all about clothes.
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: No.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: That was all about her costume change. Costume change. So
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: she had a little curtain thing, and then she'd give
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: it over to somebody, either me or Kenny Moore usually,
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: and then she would, that's when she could take a breather.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Get a glass of water and have the girls change
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: her clothes.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: That explains it so that solo is a really long
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: set in there so she's probably like go ahead stretch well.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah and and then and then i had that and
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: then by the time we had gotten to the wildest
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: dreams tour then i also had a big percussion thing
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: to one of the dancers same idea yeah costume change.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Well we i mean we're definitely into the soundtrack stuff.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: So that, by the time you get there, we start
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: getting towards, you know, beyond the Thunderdome.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: And that definitely ties in. I mean, once you work
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: yourself into the videos, you are the perfect person because
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: everybody in Max world is shirtless and wearing chains. And
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: so they kind of tied it into what I guess
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: you were already sort of doing to some extent.
• 40:09
  Speaker 14: Yeah.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I did definitely didn't get it. Of course. Sorry.
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: And the codpiece.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: Don't forget the, the codpiece.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: You have to have the codpiece.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Um, Well, she got that for me. Yeah. She bought
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: that for me.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: She– She wanted to see you in there.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: She definitely– she was in Berlin and they were shopping
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: and they passed by one of these sort of high-end
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: leather stores, sex shops, and she saw the cut piece
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: in the window. She said, Timmy. And she ran out
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: and got it and in her way just said, wear
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: this at all times.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: So do you still have the original copy?
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: Oh, God, no. Nobody wanted the copies after he was
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: done with it. Let's just say they take a beating.
• 40:54
  Speaker 5: I just didn't know if it had its own little
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: special- It's in a glass case somewhere.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: In a museum for like- No. It's much more disgusting
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: than that. That's why it's sealed in the case. It
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: just gets wet and then dries out, then gets wet,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: then dries out. Because you're sweating all over it, right?
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: So the sweat is pouring down. The thing is wet.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: The girls have to, the wardrobe girls have to get
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: it dried out. And then you do that for a
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: couple few years.
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: So there were a lot of them. How many cod
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: pieces would you say that you go through in a
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: regular concert tour?
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: After she got me that first one, then it was
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: up to me. She certainly wasn't going to get me
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: another one.
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: I think it's like a lifetime subscription to Cod Pieces.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: So then I would have to go to sex shops
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: and try to find one. And by now, I have
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: my own people that I go to.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: You have your own custom.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: To make these custom shirts and to make things like
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: cod pieces and whatever I want, any pieces of gear,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: belts with chains or whatever. And then I just go
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: to Home Depot.
• 42:16
  Speaker 5: Where most rock stars get their shots.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Right. $ 1. 69 a foot. And I have one of those
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: things that you break into chain metal. Bolt cutter. Bolt cutters. Yeah.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: And I have it written down as a file. And
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: I know how long each of the pieces are. And then.
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: You've got it broken down to a science.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it doesn't take me very long. What
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: happens is the oil gets on it and it starts
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: to turn a little dark. So I am definitely due
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: for a new set.
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: When is the last time that you changed the set?
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: Before I came on this tour. So I'm not going
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: to bring this big damn bolt cutter with me. So
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: every time I go home, I make myself a new
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: set of stuff. If I need a new codpiece... if
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: I need some new pants or shirts or whatever. You know,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: it's very, right now, the thing that I don't like
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: is I have not found a person who can do
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: the tie-dye on the pink and purple pants that I
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: did in The Lost Boys. These people were film people.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: They really knew So I'm on the hunt because so
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: usually I'll just go to Latina shops where they have
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: stretch jeans. And so I'm actually wearing women's jeans that
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: might have some rips in them or whatever. But that's
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: the only, you know, then because then you need like
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: a master tie dyer who knows how to blot.
• 44:08
  Speaker 5: It seems like there would be somebody on Etsy that
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: would be able to get a niche market.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: For this. I'm going to have to find somebody. We're
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: putting the word out.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: You guys listening. If you know how to tie dye.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Get hold of it. And then you got to remember,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: it's got to put up with getting soaked every night. Sweat.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: And then sweat and grease. And then you got to
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: wash it. And so what happens is what was pink
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: over here and purple over here just starts to become
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: a sort of a pink-purple color. And so that's my
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: next project because I don't really like wearing jeans.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Originally, were you drawn to that look or did it
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: all just stem from that Tina one day said, put
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: this on?
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm a hippie. I was born in 1955.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: So that's my, the 60s is my thing. I was
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: never a big fan of like the Garcia tie dye. Yeah.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: But I loved the blot. I thought, oh, I love pastels.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: My first wife was a designer and had a store
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: in Greenwich Village and she was really drawn to pastels.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: So our whole house was done in pastels. I thought, oh,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: this would be great. I got to do something different
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: than I'm doing with Tina because I was just wearing
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: stretch jeans. Yeah. You know, I would go to a
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: place in London or something and just buy them out
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: of my size. And then I thought, no, I got
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: to take this one step further.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Give it your own spin.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: I really want that. And so, yeah, so now I
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: got to find it again.
• 46:02
  Speaker 5: Sorry I derailed.
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: I'll do it. Oh, no. I'll find it.
• 46:04
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: Sorry, I derailed the whole serious conversation with the codpiece.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Well, you got to get to the codpiece. But I mean,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I guess that leads to that because we're coming off
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: of Thunderdome. So again, it's a perfect tie-in leading to
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: The Lost Boys. So I was wondering how, because Joel
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Schumacher is such an interesting director. So did he find
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: out who you are from, you know, appearances with Tina?
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: I had, he, Tina did a video called One of
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: the Living, which was from Thunderdome. Yeah.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: And you're in there yeah.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: But joel got his start at andy warhol's factory so
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: i had done a spread in interview magazine andy warhol's
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: uh big format sort of uh i.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Feel like pieces and chain is no nothing unusual at
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: andy's place.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Right exactly so they had i had like leather nipples
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: with big rings on them I was wearing.
• 47:05
  Speaker 5: Okay, so now I have to find this.
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, do.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I think Debbie Harry's on the cover.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: How hard is this to find these days?
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I think Debbie Harry's on the cover. You can always
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: find back issues with that. I don't have a copy either.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: But my wife and I were thinking, oh, we'd like
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: to see that. I'd like to see how embarrassing that is.
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: As soon as we get out of here, that's.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: My first thing. Because I was wearing sort of a
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: mini skirt, like a gladiator type of leather jacket. leather
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: skirt and big wound up sandals that came to the
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: knees and that whole look.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: That definitely ties in to where you end up.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Joel, when I went into Joel's office, he had that
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: picture on his wall behind him.
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: It's going to be on every wall in my house
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: as soon as I find it.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: Well, when I went in, I said, I'm not sure
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: what this is, but I get the feeling I got it.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: Whatever part this is.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: Since you were on the wall already.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Sort of getting the feeling. And when I walked in,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: he was like, oh, Timmy, I've been trying to get
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: in touch with you because I would like you to
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: sing a song in my next movie. And we just
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: shook on it, and it was a 30-second meeting.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: So you had no idea how big the production was
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: going to be? Because that was, I was just reading
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: a thing with Alex Winter said that was his first
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: day of shooting was when you were recording the whole,
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: and he's like, he gets there and like, it's all
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: these people and bonfires and you're up on the stage
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: with the sax and like, he's just like, what movie
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: did I.
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: Get myself into?
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: So did you have any idea what you were getting
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: yourself into for that scene?
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Well, you got to remember that Santa Cruz, That's just
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: another night in Santa Cruz. They do that every night.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: There's always a couple of bands on that stage. And
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: there was always a pit. And they were always, always headbanging.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: So they didn't give a shit that it was a saxophone.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: People do that whole thing. People headbanging to saxophone? What's
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: wrong with this picture?
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: They're like, I don't know about the sax, but I
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: like his outfit. I'm sticking with this guy.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, you know, and I play pretty hard. It's almost,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: some of my screaming is almost non-saxophone-like.
• 49:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: You know, it's mostly a soulful or jazzy kind of instrument.
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: And I always wanted to make it more, I wouldn't
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: say like a guitar, but like more like, say, a
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: guitar that had effects on it where you could get
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: a scream out of it. And, you know, always going
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: for the big high notes or big low notes or
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: trying to get different sounds out of it. And so
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: it doesn't strike me as too strange. that they would
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: have gone, I never seen it, but okay, we'll head
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: bang to this. I never seen it before, but it
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: sounds to me like, yeah, this could have been a
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: guitar playing those parts. And like I said, Santa Cruz,
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: that's all they did. They didn't need, those weren't extras.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, they just showed up.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Those were the people that just showed up. So the
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: only problem was that they kept jumping on the stage.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: And Mike Chapman, who was the director of photography, who
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: I thought was a security guy, just kept throwing him
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: off the stage onto the crowd because he couldn't get
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: his shots.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: And how much direction did he give you in that performance,
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Joel Schumacher? Or was it just do your thing?
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: Zero. As far as I showed up in my outfit.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: He's like, I've sketched this drawing of you. I want
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: you to wear this.
• 51:04
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 51:05
  Speaker 7: No.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: They didn't. They just said, come the way you want
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: to come. Yeah. I showed up with the, you know,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: because Joel's a hippie too. Oh, yeah. So the pants
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: was great. You know, if I had showed up in
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: black leather pants and, you know, a rubber dog collar or,
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? If it had been straight metal.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: It's trying too hard at that point too. You're dialing
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: it back a little.
• 51:35
  Speaker 5: It wouldn't have stood out.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't have been as memorable.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. You've got to have– I've always felt that
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: you've got to have some wrong in what you're doing.
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: You have to feel like maybe this might not work
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: or– you know what I mean? Because then you're pushing
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: the envelope. Yeah. Yeah. Like you want to do– just
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: the right amount of wrong is important I think. You
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: don't want to just show up straight down the middle.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: That's never been interesting to me.
• 52:07
  Speaker 5: Okay, when you were filming that part in the movie,
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: did you realize how long-lasting that movie itself and the
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: entirety of it would last in culture today?
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: Because, I mean.
• 52:17
  Speaker 5: I can't even say it's a cult classic. It's just
• 52:19
  Speaker 5: a straight up, it's like a classic.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: It's beloved by so many people.
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: Did you think that this many years later there would
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: still be so many people coming out to conventions and
• 52:30
  Speaker 5: specifically that movie? Did it feel like it at the time?
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Zero. Nobody cared at all when the film came out.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: People thought that my performance was weird and extremely short,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: which it is. So lots of people were like, you're
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: only in it for like 10 seconds.
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: But yet still so memorable.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Like my friends, like why did I spend money on this?
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: And then when I became their father's age, still nobody
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: gave a shit. Then Saturday Night Live happened. That sort
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: of changed things because people started coming to me And saying,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: are you upset about this? You know what I mean? Like,
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: they're making fun of you. Well, that's what they do
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: on Saturday Night Live. You're making fun of Barry Gibb.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: You're making fun of... You know what I mean? Michael Jackson.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: It's an honor.
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: You haven't made it until you've been made fun of.
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: I thought it was absolutely an honor, especially to be
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: played by Jon Hamm. There's two... I'm trying to decide which...
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: of these tombstones. One is played by Jon Hamm. The
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: other is banned from CBGBs.
• 53:59
  Speaker 5: Did you really get banned from CBGBs?
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I got banned from CBGBs for being too lewd.
• 54:06
  Speaker 7: Lewd?
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, too lewd.
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: Is that with the loincloth?
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: That was with the G-string and the... sort of i
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: wouldn't call it pornography it was sort of soft core
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: pornography with a little bit of hints of nudity but
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: it was done in a very sort of um upbeat
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: positive kind of way and i think had i been
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: again like Black Leather, S & M, they wouldn't have
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: had a problem with that.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and this is CBGB's. I mean, it's rock and roll.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: They're supposed to want to do that. Once again, just
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: push the envelope.
• 54:48
  Speaker 5: On the list of people banned from CBGB's, I don't
• 54:50
  Speaker 5: think I would.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Have guessed that.
• 54:52
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah.
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Billy Crystal came to me. He said, you know, I
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: went to CBGB's because there was a band that had
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: a similar name to a band that you had for
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: a while, so I thought you reformed the band. So
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: I went down, and the band was throwing live bait
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: into the audience. That's okay. How could you possibly get
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: banned from that club?
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: It says a lot about you.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: But that's what he said. He said, this is just
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: too much. This is just too much. I'm not into this.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: It was that middle area there. It was just uncomfortable enough.
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: They were like... Well, you know, and this is pre-Prince too. Yeah. So... It.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: Was progressive, but it was very slow.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: At that point.
• 55:34
  Speaker 13: Yeah.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Once he... You know, they just wanted... You know, and... Like, G.G.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: Allen could play there.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: He could do whatever he wanted.
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: And did.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But that was fine.
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: Because that's what was expected of him, though.
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah.
• 55:49
  Speaker 5: If you book him, you know the kind of grossness
• 55:52
  Speaker 5: you're getting.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, they knew what they were going to
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: get from me, too. Because I had played there and
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: really sold the place out many times. So he was
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: actually doing something that was bad for him because I
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: always sold the place out. And I spent a lot
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: of money on advertising. I really wanted to build up
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: the band. I was into the band. It was named
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: the Ken Dolls. And so we all had, they all
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: had blonde wigs and they all had, you know, one
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: would have a cabana outfit, the other would have a
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: safari outfit, and that's what we did. And I played
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: in a G-string. So I think just the fact that
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: it was fun.
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: Can't have that.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: You can't have, you can't have fun. You have to
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: pretend like you're a badass and a tough guy, you know.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: That's weird that that rubbed the wrong way.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: You guys are having fun.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Get out of here.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I don't know. That may be the one
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: for my tombstone. I think I'm a little prouder of that.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: I'm very proud that Jon Hamm played me, but.
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: That's better than Mimicked by Peter Griffin. I hadn't seen
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: that one until recently. I was like, Peter Griffin in
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: the outfit from The Lost Boys.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: It's not a pretty thing, so no. Put that way
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: down on the list. I don't know. Did you have
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: more Lost Boys stuff?
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I'm just stuck on the, yeah.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: You were talking about you didn't know how long that
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: would last.
• 57:20
  Speaker 7: Oh, yeah.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: Well, so like I said, then came Saturday Night Live.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: And then maybe, but it wasn't right after that. It
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: was maybe three, maybe two. 2015 when I was the
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: people that would be watching the Lost Boys for the
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: first time when I was their grandfather's age. For some
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: weird reason that just clicked. And then all of a
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: sudden everybody was calling me for conventions. Can you play
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: a club? Can you get an act together? Can you
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: make an album? Can you do this? Can you do that?
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: And that's the way it stays now. I said yes
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: to everything and And now we're here talking.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: I think horror fandom kind of changed at that point, too.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah?
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: There had always been these hardcore fans, but they were
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: all by themselves in their basement watching their movies. And
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: the convention scene kicked in. Yeah. And it just solidified everybody. Plus,
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: the internet had become such a thing that suddenly everybody
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: had a way to get together and be like, oh,
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: I love this. You love this, too. So everybody kind
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: of came together right at that time.
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: It also was a really good meme thing. Yeah. It
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: just– it was short enough. Attention spans in younger people
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: were short enough too that just memes and little gifs
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that where they would just do something
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: funny with it became very popular.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: And for some of them, they might not even know
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: what it was. They're like, what is this one? It's like, oh,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: it's from this movie. You should watch it.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: That's how they learned about it.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: It really started. You know, where I'd be standing on
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: a flying saucer or something like that.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: You know that wasn't real wait a minute well that
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: i was just gonna that's what i was telling them
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: earlier how much everything kind of hit at that point
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: for you too because in the span of a couple
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: of years there you go once once you're in like
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: thunderdome then it's like lost boys and then the next
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: thing you're you're composing a soundtrack for something and you're
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: on miami vice and like so you've got all this
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: stuff that kind of hits within a couple of years.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: Like how prepared for you all of that at one time?
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: No, that's not true.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: No?
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: No, it's not true. After I decided to leave Tina
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: in 99, after I did a Ringo Starr tour, I
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: didn't want to travel anymore. I had been traveling since
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: I was 19. At that point, what's 90? So I'm
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: in my mid forties. And I, it was just too
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: much time on the road being somebody's second banana. It
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: was starting. I, I, it, it actually happened where Tina
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: and Elton were supposed to do a gig in, and
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: did do a gig for Y2K. Yeah. In Vegas where
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: they played together. And we were supposed to do a tour,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: but they got into a fight and that broke up that.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: But they still had this contract to do Y2K at
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: some casino. And I said, you know, all the yelling
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: and screaming, all the fog machines, all the, you know,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: just like everybody being like on edge. you know, wondering
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: if the lighting person is yelling at the sound man
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: and Tina's yelling at Elton and Elton's, you know, like
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: everybody's just running around trying to make this work on
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: a really high level at a very short.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: Amount of time.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't exactly, even at that point, wasn't exactly
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: a ton of money.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: So when somebody offered me a Y2K gig that I
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: could sleep in my own bed and make almost as
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: much money as a week of craziness, all I had
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: to do was just show up with some friends, play
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: some tunes that we liked, and I would go home
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: with a lot of cash. So I said, I think
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: I'm going to stay local. And then so for like
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: till this started with the conventions and everything like that,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: I wound up just doing local gigs. And I put
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: that entirely behind me. Stopped working out, cut my hair, just,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: you know, I would do like really high-end weddings and
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: really high-end parties, fundraisers, things like that, things in a tuxedo.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: Money was good. I was leading the bands. But I
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: wound up, after a while, I really developed a horrible
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: anxiety condition from it because they were also a lot
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: of pressure. And when you're leading a band like that,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who's screwing up. You're the one they're
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: looking at. You're right in the middle. And if they
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: don't come out with the appetizer right away, they're not
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: looking at the guy who didn't come out with it.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: They're looking at you and they're coming and yelling at you.
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: So as it built, it hasn't really been that long
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: since I haven't been doing that. Yeah. Um, So, like pre-COVID,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: maybe I'm thinking 2018, 2017. All those gigs went away anyway.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: So, then Cameo got me through COVID beautifully. And my
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: wife was able to work at home. So, COVID was
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: actually quite kind to us. Yeah. And before COVID, I
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: had done a record, Blood on the Reed.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: And.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Then I was touring with it and it was really fun.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: I really loved it. I said, oh, this is for me.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: This is what I've always wanted to do. And COVID hit.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: All my gigs got canceled on the same day. And
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I went home and as luck would have it, Cameo
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: was just, you know, Cameo was.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: COVID's- Finding its footing, yeah.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: The perfect COVID gift. And it was just sort of,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: It had been around for a while, but it wasn't
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: that popular. And then COVID made it huge. So that
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: was such a blessing for me. I couldn't even believe it.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: How many just deluged with cameos. I was just doing
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: them all day long. And then I'm twice faxed, twice boosted.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: I feel pretty invincible now. everybody's opening up now. I,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: so I can take that record and start again.
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: And go ahead.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: I was going to say like putting that record together, how,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: because you've done so much with other people, how, how
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: hard was it to kind of be like, okay, finally
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: I can do my own thing. So was it good
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: finding your own sound?
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: So instinctive. Yeah. It's just the sound that I love.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: That record is the sound that I love. I love,
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: sort of slightly obscure soul and R & B, and
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: then taking it and putting a really heavy rock sound
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: to it, and also putting sort of a semi-industrial Caribbean
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: feel to it, like... Jamaican dancehall or samba or some
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: African beats, taking that, excuse me for getting too technical,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: but taking that 16th note feel that makes, right? So
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: if you're 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: if you're just doing that, to me that gets a
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: little boring. So I would take a soul record and
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: then I would heavy it up with the guitars, but
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: then I would put something. So on pretty much all
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: of them, that's just my sound. Not that I don't
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: stray from it. I do stray from it, but that's me.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: When I make my second record, it's pretty much going
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: to sound like that because that is what I found
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: out that I love. And it didn't, I didn't even
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: have to think about it. Because I would always start
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: out with a pretty good approximation of a song I liked.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Like Teddy Pendergrass, Only You, or something like that, which
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: I usually open my show with. Or I put a
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: spell on you, or something like that. And then take it,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: and then go, okay, I need more. It's got to
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: be heavier. I love the sound of heavy guitars. And
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: I love playing that sound. And then it's still not enough.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: I still say, no, it's got to move. It's got
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: to move more, right? Because that real heavy guitar sound
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: sort of weighed it down a little bit. So then
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: you need something to counteract that. And that's usually trying
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: to find some unusual sounds to move it. And you
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: put those together and that's my feeling. That's what I love.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: You got you got.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: You got what i need i say you got you
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: got you got what.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: I want only you baby.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: Only you only you you you you ain't never had
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: nobody love me like you do ain't never had no
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: please me through and through Ain't never had nobody.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: Talk to me this way Nobody comes close when it
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: comes to.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 4: Loving me You, you got, you got, you got what
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 4: I need I say you got, you got, you got
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: what I want.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: Only you, baby, only you, only you, you.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: You, you Ain't never had nobody in my life before
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: Ain't never had nobody till you came to the door
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: Ain't never had nobody take away.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: My troubles When I'm down and out, girl, you.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: Come running on the double You, you got, you got,
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 4: you got what I need I say you got, you got,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: you got what I.
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  Speaker 14: Want You got, you got, you got, you got, you
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  Speaker 14: got what I need.
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  Speaker 7: Only you, baby, only you.
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  Speaker 14: You got, you got, you got, you got, you got
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  Speaker 14: what I want.
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  Speaker 4: You got the love. You got, you got, you got,
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  Speaker 4: you got, you got what I need. You got, you got,
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  Speaker 4: you got, you got, you got what I want.
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  Speaker 1: Only you, only you.
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  Speaker 5: So you mentioned a second album. Is that something you're
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  Speaker 5: possibly happening sometimes too?
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  Speaker 1: I'm stressing so much.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 1: I'm stressing so much about it.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't know if it was something already in the
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  Speaker 5: works or just one of those that's like maybe in
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  Speaker 5: a few years or if it's already.
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  Speaker 1: You know what? First of all, I've got to cover
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  Speaker 1: the country. You know what I mean? I've got to
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  Speaker 1: go back and see what towns I've played, what towns
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  Speaker 1: I've missed. if I can grab another two years off
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  Speaker 1: of this with towns that I haven't hit before, I'll
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  Speaker 1: be happy to do that because I'm scared shit because
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  Speaker 1: it's a one man show. It'll always be a one
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  Speaker 1: man show and very reliant on multimedia. Usually things that
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  Speaker 1: I've been in, things that I've done, um, Making, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that doing we all do the star dance during the,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just thinking of some little thing. So the
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  Speaker 1: idea of going into the locker, going into the woodshed
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  Speaker 1: and coming up with a whole new show is scaring
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  Speaker 1: me to death. But at least I'm thinking about it now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I guess you've got to set up the show.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll let people know about you. You've got this tour.
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  Speaker 2: You want people to come out and see you. What's
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  Speaker 2: the best way for them to find you? I know
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  Speaker 2: we saw it on Facebook. So is that your best option?
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  Speaker 1: Go on Facebook. Just Google me, Facebook. And there's only
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  Speaker 1: one Facebook page. And it's mine. It's real.
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  Speaker 2: And I.
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  Speaker 1: Every week on Monday, I put the clubs that I'm
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: going to be at that week. And there's also a post,
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  Speaker 1: a few posts down that has the entire show. The
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: entire list of dates. The entire tour. So, however you
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  Speaker 1: want to do it, great. If you want to wait
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  Speaker 1: till the week, but like I said, you can also
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  Speaker 1: look at the whole thing. So, this is going to
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  Speaker 1: be a 13-week tour. And then I had an accident
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  Speaker 1: in Las Vegas where a wind gust blew all of
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  Speaker 1: my screens and all my equipment over, destroyed everything I had.
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  Speaker 1: Had to go back home and regroup, rebuy everything, get
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  Speaker 1: it all working again. So I'm making up those November
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  Speaker 1: so I'm on the road till September 24th I believe
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  Speaker 1: 25th and then going to the UK you have fans
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  Speaker 1: in the UK of course okay so I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 1: at the Edinburgh Comic-Con and then in Manchester for the
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  Speaker 1: love of horror in October and then November I'm doing
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  Speaker 1: all the makeup dates in Texas and And all the
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  Speaker 1: southern states while it's still– just don't make me come
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  Speaker 1: back to Ohio or not during December.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you only wear a tank top. You can't
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  Speaker 2: go cold places.
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  Speaker 9: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I think that's it. Thank you for being with us, man.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Really a pleasure. Thanks for all
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: the thoughtful questions, guys. I really appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: So once again, a big thank you to Tim for
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 2: being on the show. He's not only a great guy,
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: but he puts on a fun and interactive musical experience,
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  Speaker 2: so watch for him out there on tour, and when
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: he comes to your town, go and see him live.
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  Speaker 2: And we definitely need to give a big thanks to
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  Speaker 2: the Whirling Tiger. First off to their booker, who was
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: so helpful in putting things together with Tim and totally
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: got the ball rolling, so this episode wouldn't have come
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: together without their help. And in particular, I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: thank the aptly named Heaven for who was our salvation
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: as she showed up to the venue and was so
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  Speaker 2: nice to help us get set up inside, and we
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: were recording right there next to the stage. So the
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: reason our discussion with Tim sounds so good is thanks
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: to Heaven. So, a big thank you to her. And
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: the Whirling Tiger in general is a terrific venue. Even
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: after the show, Tim was talking about how great the
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: sound was in there. I know they've put a lot
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: of work and money into redoing the performance space there,
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: and you can tell. So if you're in the area,
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  Speaker 2: definitely come by and check it out here at the
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: Whirling Tiger. If you're further out there in the world,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: start driving. Get yourself over here. It's 1335 Story Avenue
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  Speaker 2: in Louisville, and you can follow them on Facebook and
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: see what they've got coming up.
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  Speaker 7: This is John Spencer, and you're listening to Movie Meltdown.
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  Speaker 2: Are you guys... familiar with rolling vengeance no jay if
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: anyone i figured you i i knew the title but
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: i watched the trailer it is it is tailor-made for
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: our episode of our you know the three of us
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: sitting down watching a ridiculous movie um basically i watched
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: the trailer it's what happens in all these movies somebody
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: is wrongfully killed and it's it looks like a bunch
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: of redneck idiots being redneck idiots And somehow the rest
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: of his family gets killed like in every action movie.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: And so his way of taking out his revenge or
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: rolling vengeance is to build a giant monster truck. Yeah,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: it sounds familiar. It's amazing looking. Is this a recent movie? Oh,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: this is 1987, I believe.
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  Speaker 1: So not recent.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah.
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  Speaker 5: We won't have to worry about spoilers?
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 7: No.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think we need to do a whole
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: episode on it, so I think we will return for
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: a full episode on it. But, yeah, after watching that trailer,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: and then there's an entire building the truck montage set
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: to his song, Tim is writer and producer on Coming
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 2: Up On You from Rolling Vengeance.
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  Speaker 3: 80s epic.
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  Speaker 7: Nobody knows what I know. No one feels my pain.
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  Speaker 7: No one hears the war drums pounding in my brain.
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  Speaker 7: Eyes are in your favor, but I will taste the wine.
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  Speaker 7: I'm coming up on you this time.
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  Speaker 1: Nobody left to love me.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 7: Nothing left to lose. Never more downhearted. Never less confused.
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  Speaker 7: The single thought is mine. Now your blood is mine
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 7: I'm coming up on you this time I'm coming up
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  Speaker 7: on you this time Coming up on you this time
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 7: Ancient laws are calling I have crossed the line Coming
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 7: up on you this time Coming up on you this
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  Speaker 7: time Said I'm coming, coming Said I'm coming, coming Said.
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  Speaker 3: I'm coming for you Coming up.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 7: On you this time Coming up on you this time
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 7: Coming up on you this time Nation walls are falling
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  Speaker 7: I have crossed the line Coming up on you this
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 7: time Coming up on you.
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  Speaker 3: This time.
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  Speaker 2: It's the most 80s thing ever.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome.
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  Speaker 2: And as you're listening to it, just imagine a monster
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: truck rolling over top of people and cars and getting
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 2: vengeance and it's the best thing ever. He's on a
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: gunship song too that I really like. Yeah, I actually
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: just was watching that video. Have you seen the video
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: for it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we saw the video.
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  Speaker 2: The video is amazing. I didn't post the video.
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  Speaker 5: Like the bloody one where it's just.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: Well, it's like a fan fiction world. It's like take
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: Lost Boys and From Dusk Till Dawn and Blade and
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: kind of mix them all together.
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  Speaker 5: We just saw the video where it's just the music
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: because the one we saw was just the music and
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: blood everywhere.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: Well, there's no, there's, well, this is, yeah, this is
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: a different, there's one that's animated and it's got all
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: of the characters as essentially anime characters. Oh, I should
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: have posted that one. They look super anime. And then
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: by the end of it, we cut to live versions
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: and you see everybody, including Tim, in his full, you know,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: Lost Boys kind of garb.
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  Speaker 1: Gorgeous.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: And then everybody gets sprayed with blood, blade style, because
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: that's what you do when you open a vampire bar.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: Obviously.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: You put blood in the sprinklers. I mean, if what
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: we do in the shadows has taught me anything, that
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: will work no problems.
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  Speaker 8: As he takes from me my last breath And then
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 8: I'm waking up again.
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  Speaker 3: Can you feel where we're coming from?
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: But yep, that song is awesome. Obviously more new bands
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 2: need to come to him and be like, be part
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: of our song, because you're awesome. I'm thinking we may
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: even go out with that other version because he's also
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: in the second single off of that soundtrack album is
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: One of the Living, which is also Tina Turner, but
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 2: he once again shows up and does his amazing sax thing. So, yeah,
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: I think that's how we should go out with One
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: of the Living by Tina and Tim. Timmy. All right,
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: so we'll go out with that. And with that, I
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: will remind you, get a life, we'll provide the soundtrack.
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  Speaker 7: ¶ ¶ ¶ ¶.
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  Speaker 8: We can't stop the pain of your children.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 12: Crying out in your head.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 8: They always said that the living would give you nothing.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 7: So now you're gonna shoot, shoot bullets of fire. Don't
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 7: wanna fight, but sometimes you gotta do your part.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: But sometimes you've got your side. Yeah, yeah, yahoo, yahoo
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 3: In a wild town Good, collected, but savage In a
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: wild town.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 5: Bruised, sensual, ravaged, ravaged.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 8: And it's every man for himself, every woman, every child.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: A new breed, ferocious and wild.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 6: And all they want to do is shoot bullets and fire.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you've got to. You're some sort of survivor.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 7: And there's just one thing you've got to know.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 3: You've got 10 more miles to go. They want to fight.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: Sometimes you've got to. You're a child.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 7: So survive. And there's just one thing you've got to know.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 7: You've got 10 more miles of years to go.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 5: I forgot to ask my other question. What was it?
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 5: When you did Lost Boys, was that song already something
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 5: that was in your repertoire? Was that something that Schumacher
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 5: picked out?
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: You know what? I'm not going to answer that because
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: that story is a really big part of my show.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 5: Oh, okay.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: So we'll get that later tomorrow.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: If you want to bring a mic and grab it,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: that might be a good... So if you hear the
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: sound change, you'll know that I'm answering her question.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: If not, go to the show yourself.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 5: If we get here early enough, we can claim a
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 5: table and already have it set up.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: Awesome. Sorry. I didn't mean to not answer your question,
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: but like I said, For me, it's a very important
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 1: part of my show, and I don't want to... Because
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: it's a weird-ass story. That's all I'm going to say
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: to everybody. It is a weird story.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: That means you better come out and hear it for yourself.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: Awesome. All right, everybody. Bye-bye.
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• 1:32:57
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• 1:32:59
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