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Dennis Mallen | The Christian Reeve Podcast | #134 | · The Christian Reeve Podcast

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  Hello and welcome to another episode of the Christian.
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  We podcast. Today's guest is an actor,
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  director producer all the way from Florida in the United
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  States. His name is Dennis Malin,
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  welcome to the show. Dennis, how you doing?
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  Thank you. Thank you, Christian.
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  Thanks for having me on, I appreciate it.
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  And looking forward to most robust conversation with you and
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  Manchester England, huh, beautiful out there?
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  Yeah, I'm not actually originally from here.
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  I actually moved here two years ago.
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  So from London, as is very much. It's fight anytime you get
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  someone online from the UK, not always, but it's always like,
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  but you from London, okay? What it's like, Florida.
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  You know, I live in Central Florida, but the majority of
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  people are from somewhere else. And when I first came down here,
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  but down here, seven years, and I've got this northeast, New
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  York, New Jersey accent. And so I stick out, I stick out
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  anyway and they're like, so where you from New Jersey, New
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  York? Yeah, we can tell and it's funny
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  because you never imagined, Florida people having a Southern
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  accent but Lo the people have a Southern accent and it's just,
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  it's interesting. One of my, one of my buddies.
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  He says he's a fourth generation Floridian and we did a public
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  service announcement. He's he's big into the
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  Agricultural and there's like a local wine bar.
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  We go to months. Served Wine Bar.
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  It's it's the Last little hangout joint down where I am
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  and it's so much fun, so we get together.
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  One night, I come in and I am dressed whatever, and I'm in a
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  good mood, you go. So, what's going on?
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  I go mad set a great dinner. It's like, all right, what I go?
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  I grilled up a great steak, had a bottle of red and now I'm here
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  hanging out, he goes, well, you know where the state came from
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  right? I got ya Supermarket, walked in
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  bought it. When I bought the bottle of red.
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  He's like no, no, let me educate you, son.
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  And where it comes from. So yeah, with it, within a
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  matter of hours and a few other get-togethers, he schooled me,
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  long story short, the name of the commercial is surviving on
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  2%. Now, in the colonies over here,
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  there's two percent of American farmers that are left.
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  So, 2 percent of American farmers, 33 feet, 300 million
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  people in this country. So it's Dying business industry.
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  So we did this commercial with this public service announcement
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  that I'm really, really happy with and really just educating
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  not only our youth but people like me because I mean I go to
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  the supermarket credit card get a nice slab of slab of beef.
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  Go home cook. It drink a bottle of red rock
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  and roll you know so it was really eye-opening so you just
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  you just never know what you're going to learn and what you're
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  going to do and Via the business that were in.
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  I've had so many so many great experiences Christian where I've
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  opened my eyes and I've learned so much in a short period of
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  time, you know, have you found throughout the years that you've
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  been approaching projects more with that in mind?
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  Because I have to say, like I've only just started acting like in
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  2019 and originally I was just like, take anything, right?
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  But then, as I began to start, Only cultivating the brand with
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  the podcast and everything I do online.
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  Yes, I realized. Oh, no.
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  Like all of this is a brand and anything you do or your name is
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  attached to ultimately reflects on you, even something, which is
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  not someone's fault. Like, let's say, you do a movie
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  or a TV show, and the director is involved in some nefarious
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  things or says some outlandish statements, your name is then
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  attached to that project, and then you're like, you kind of
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  Fall under criticism a little bit.
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  Yeah you can try and distance yourself but ultimately you'll
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  connect it to that but you just part of it.
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  Yeah. But I just wondered like is that
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  something you've always been conscious of or is it just
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  something as you got older that you like more sort of fixated on
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  or level still there. I've always been conscious a
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  brand and kudos to you for identifying that so early in
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  because you know, you're a business owner.
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  So you represent Christian re that is your brand Represent.
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  Dennis Malin. If you look at my body of work,
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  I like characters that are broken.
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  I like characters that are really stretch characters, so it
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  kind of puts me in an interesting.
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  I'm not going to say predicament but an interesting position
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  because I love what I do so much and I'm very busy doing what we
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  do. I rarely say no, I rarely say no
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  because I've never been the type of guy even as a child, I can't
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  sit still. I can't stay at home so I do
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  tell you get it made me take it again.
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  So yeah, yeah. I don't know, you know, I've got
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  a few years on you. There was no add back in the
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  day, there was no Riddle and back in the day, so I can't sit
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  home, watch Tom and Jerry. I gotta go out and run around
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  play with the guys and gals. So I keep myself busy be that as
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  it may. I really haven't had any issues
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  per se. Now, I like to volunteer a lot
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  of my time. Now we live in a pretty
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  interesting culture and we're doing a we're doing a veteran's
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  commercial next month, I want to do stuff for the, for the, for
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  Animals. I want to do stuff for children
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  different. You know, st.
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  Jude's, and different things like that.
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  I'm not an activist by any means.
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  I'm not political by any means. I mean, the only people that
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  know, my political opinion are my cat's.
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  And when I'm wrong, they let me know.
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  And when they agree with me, they let me know and they're
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  very split. I've got a pretty split house,
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  my Dowager cat, she's 8 years old and my kittens 9 months old.
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  So they're very, I've got a conservative.
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  I've got a liberal and you've got kind of be in the middle if
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  you would. So it makes it, it makes it very
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  interesting when I'm on set, it's business, you know, and
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  that's what it's all about. But I'm not there to be a, some
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  not there to talk this. This, that, that I just, I'm
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  there to work, and it's a very different mentality.
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  I had a huge audition yesterday. I, I've gone to to Cattle Calls
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  in my entire life. One was 25 years ago for a Woody
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  Allen film and I met Woody Allen and soon-yi and and I got cast
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  in a movie about us home in New York.
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  Thanks. I'm in New York and Smee.
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  A 10,000 other people, so who knows?
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  And I stand in front of Woody. I smile.
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  Give my head shot and I got the call two days later there was.
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  That was it? I didn't ask you to do anything,
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  right? Say nothing sir.
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  No sir that? Yeah, it was it.
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  I don't know. Crazy.
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  What was it? What was what was would he like,
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  was he nice? Was he irritable?
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  Was he? I don't know from what I
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  remember he was late and If Ever I remember he was sitting there
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  and he had Sunni next to him. And this was 25 years ago,
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  right? So it was one I was bloodshot
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  and his hair was perfectly Askew and you know it's it's Woody
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  Allen. Hmm he could have asked me to
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  bark like a dog. I would have barked like I mean
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  it's Woody Allen man come on even just to be in front of
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  greatness and you know the man that was good enough for me.
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  I didn't have to get cast in anything but there he is like
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  and all he could do was smile. I think he asked me something.
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  I forget I forget exactly but I already heard was next.
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  Okay, got it. Did you get to get nervous?
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  So Starstruck in that moment or was it?
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  I I I've learned early on, I've been on set early on at a young
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  age with a lot of stars a lot of a-listers and if I went Gaga I
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  get kicked off set. Hmm well if I like, oh my God.
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  It's Christian. Reeve.
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  Oh my God, I wish someone would say that it's a yeah.
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  Record that you play that over. If you're easily plate, where
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  you go. But but, but that's so.
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  So, I'm on the set of celebrity. I'm working right next to
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  Kenneth Branagh now. Oh, well, she is.
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  Which is my man. That's if I need a master's
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  class, I watch Kenneth Branagh. Now I turn on Hamlet for four
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  hours and I've got a large coffee and a notebook and I
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  just, I'm just transfixed. I'm taking notes.
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  I was on was an extra antenna by Christopher Nolan and yassi kind
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  of front of played the villain in that movie.
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  Yeah and I I don't know if I knew he was like I knew Robert
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  Pattinson was in the movie and I saw him.
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  I saw a bunch of them on set but I remember so I don't know.
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  I was just sitting. No, I was basically at the
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  beginning of the movie there's like an auditorium, this
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  Auditorium is in Estonia for those who don't know.
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  Happened to be living there at the time happened.
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  To start writing songs with the way Universe works.
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  I was just, I don't know, I was dressed as like a steward I
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  think and I'm just looking at stage and we're waiting for the
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  maybe know how it is. You're waiting for the next
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  shot. You waiting.
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  That's a big part of acting for anyone.
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  That doesn't know if you want to get into acting expect to wait
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  around. A lot, you should be patient.
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  Yeah. Anyway, looking at the stage.
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  Age and Kenneth Branagh just walks on and he's just like, you
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  know, suited and booted. Just chatting to know them a
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  little bit and I'm just like wow, you know, but at the same
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  time, I get what you're saying as well.
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  Yeah. You do have to nip it in the
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  bud. Yeah.
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  Well, because keep in mind, keep in mind.
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  I worked in Manhattan. Okay, so you can walk by and see
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  anybody? Okay, now I learned early on,
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  you need to respect their time because they're human beings
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  just like you. And I do mind, you Japan.
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  See, put on might be a lot more expensive, but they're still
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  human beings, right? So even if you see them on set
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  and I do that all the time, Al Pacino.
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  I've worked with mr. Pacino.
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  Three times just integer. Yes, you were in The Devil's
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  Advocate. Yes, sir.
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  Which stars? Yeah, Keanu Reeves and Al
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  Pacino. I really want to know about
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  that. What was that like for you?
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  I mean Al Pacino like One of the best actors of all time, right
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  here. You know.
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  So I might ethnicity, I'm Irish Italian, Brazilian.
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  Whenever I went over my time grandfather's house, Christmas
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  Easter st. Patrick's Day, Festivus, the
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  Godfather's on TV. The good thing, it's just, it is
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  what it is somebody. So I was Devil's Advocate was my
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  first everything, it was my first sag feature and here, I
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  am. Bright-eyed bushy-tailed, I'm a
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  kid. I get picked out of the crowd to
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  be an extra now. It's a big courtroom scene and
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  and you know the whole dynamic. I've got mr.
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  Pacino sitting right behind me. I've got Keanu Reeves in front
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  of me Craig, tea' Nelson to my side and it's a big courtroom
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  scene now. Being an extra, you always have
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  to have an attention, you don't sit there You have any attention
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  you, you're intrigued. You're like you're talking to
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  the guy down next to you Taylor. Hackford was a was a director.
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  He was married to Helen Mirren. I don't know if they're still
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  together, they don't return my calls, but great guy.
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  Great guy, big Viking guy. Now, here I am nervous as it is.
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  It's my first everything in comes mr.
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  Pacino. Now you've been on set.
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  You could hear a pin drop. How many times I said, he heard
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  a quiet? Well, maybe after somebody yells
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  Here Comes mr. Pacino.
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  You can hear a pin drop and you don't look, you don't stare at
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  the sun, you're going to go blind.
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  I turn over my shoulder, and I'm like, okay, so all right, Taylor
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  calls action, and they're doing their thing goes, cut you and
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  you out the two extras next to me, we're just sitting there
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  stoic. You you out.
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  He goes, no, no. You're And I'm like, wow, so I
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  dip over my shoulder and mr. Cena goes, it's all right.
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  Kid, you know, I'm like, huh? It's all right kid and it's the
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  voice of God saying just just show up fine and I was like oh
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  my gosh so at the end of the courtroom coming out, there's
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  two doors. I came out the far door I pivot
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  and I'm walking right into the camera.
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  I'm mugging the camera. I've got five seconds by myself
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  and then everybody else bust out Christian, I'm thinking myself,
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  I'm going to get caught, I'm going to be on the edit room
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  floor. I'm doing what you shouldn't do.
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  I'm lugging the camera. So here I am walking the camera
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  on my big ugly head. I'm in the whole frame Keanu.
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  Reeves out, you know. Craig, T Nelson bust in front of
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  me and we're all walking, but I've got five seconds and again
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  I'm thinking I'm never going to see it.
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  I saw the movie in Arkansas with my mother now Devil's Advocate.
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  You ever you ever hear the movie Rosemary's Baby?
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  Classic movie thousand foot view.
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  The devil spawn is born. Rosemary's, the mother
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  Rosemary's Baby. Okay.
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  So that's my mother's generation.
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  That kind of that movie. Imagine Rosemary's Baby has
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  grown up to be a New York City attorney.
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  No. Oh, by the way, I've seen the
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  movie. Yeah, I'm big fan.
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  Yeah, yeah, okay, but these phone with my mother watching it
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  and that's Keanu. Reeves, could have been
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  Rosemary's, Baby that 25 30 years later is now a lawyer in
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  Manhattan, who knew? Yeah, that's how I'm sitting
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  there with my mother. I didn't know who was really a
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  horror flick. She's got out and there I am.
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  I big ugly had this big. It's a, it was hysterical, man.
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  The first time you You big ugly mug on the big screen, you'll
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  like this is cool. Nobody knows who you are, but
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  this is pretty cool. So amazing when God, it's hot.
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  Did you get to talk to mr. Pacino or shakes hand or
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  anything or was it just tell ya, the ad side of that brief
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  interaction. It's not like he knows I exist.
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  Yeah, right. Well, I mean what a great movie
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  mean. Pacino's monologue towards the
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  end alone was just amazing. I've tried to emulate that
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  monologue many times and even Keanu Reeves, I mean, I love
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  Keanu Reeves. I mean he's the most wanted man
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  in Hollywood, and it's like anything else.
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  The question I always ask the question once, do you want the
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  Academy Award or do you want the money?
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  And I said, yes. Hmm.
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  Yes. Do you want the money or the
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  egg? Yes.
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  Well, what do you want? Yes, why not now John Wick might
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  not win the Academy Award, but okay, are you worth to three
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  hundred million dollars? What do you, what do you want to
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  do? And when you love what you do,
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  right? You not working a day in your
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  life. I have to say, like, I mean, I'm
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  not anywhere near like a professional like yourself.
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  I mean, I've only really done short films commercials and a
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  few extras in, you know, a few That's how you start a
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  Christian. Yeah.
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  It's like for example like you you probably had like what you
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  definitely had that formal Trend.
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  I've never had that account for that, but anyway, my point is
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  that Because people have asked that about me similar questions
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  to me as well like all what would be your goals?
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  What would you want to achieve? And the more and more, I do it
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  like recently I got back into after like quite a long break
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  and I just I just loved it. I loved being on the set and I
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  remember did a short film the other day and it's improvised
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  everything which I love. I personally I find it easy.
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  As long as you give me a day to be, you know, you know what?
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  It's like a recipe. You know, where you're going
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  with it kind of thing. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Give me the premise of it, you
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  know, give me the room to improv.
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  Yeah. And we started, you know, I met
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  the guy that I was acting alongside and within 10 minutes
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  were up in each other's faces screaming, and giggling,
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  motional, and all this, and the directors just cut into this
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  like, oh, wow. Wow.
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  That was amazing. And we were just to me, in my
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  head, I was like, oh, that's just Tuesday, you know?
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  And then I thought I didn't say that I was thinking in my head I
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  was just like, yeah, it's acting and then I thought about it for
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  a second, I was like, oh man, I love this.
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  This is I feel alive when I do this and I think that when
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  people ask you those questions like, come on, you wouldn't do
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  anything. And, like, in life job wise
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  without the intention of making money, of course, you want to
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  make billions who doesn't right, but like like when you look at
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  those really Actors that probably made their Millions.
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  Like, he only reads, would have been a millionaire very early
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  on, right? Sure.
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  Speed. Right.
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  But it keeps making movies. Why does he keep my ring?
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  Yeah. Yeah.
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  What why? What's the compulsion?
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  It's because of the love of acting of taking on a character.
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  Like you said earlier that for you, you like to take characters
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  that are broken and and and work with that and and that that was
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  actually a question. I want to ask you as well as
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  Like, when you're doing that, like, are you tapping into
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  personal experiences with that? It always is that and just an
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  area, you're able to tap into easily, because I can say, for
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  myself, when it comes to, I like to play villains really like,
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  you know, flawed villains or just general pardon my language
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  assholes, you know, I just based that people, I've met over the
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  years and Etc, is that I can see you playing that.
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  The pretty boy love interest. Do it.
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  Maybe it's a stretch right? I could do it.
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  Like I'm up for any role to be honest.
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  I'm busting your chops down now but it's fine.
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  It's fine. Like, I like that.
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  I think that I keep thinking about this David Bowie interview
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  from years ago and I always think about this.
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  Like he says the best place to be is like With your head, just
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  above the water and your feet are just about touching the
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  floor. And that's the spot.
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  You want to be in perpetually as far as the comfort zone is
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  concerned. Wow, you know, I like that.
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  But anyway, bring it back to yourself like yeah.
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  Do you tap into real experiences or why those particular roles?
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  Sure. Well, I want to answer one thing
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  at a time. You know, you're 100%, right?
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  My father, Dennis senior, adore, my father, obviously, he, we
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  lost him a few years ago, I'm sorry, he would always say, You
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  know, clean Eastwood, Clint Eastwood's 91, he still making
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  movies. How much money, how much money
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  do you really need? I don't understand.
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  And I realized, well, Dad, it's not about the money, he loves
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  what he does. When you love what you do, you
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  don't work a day in your life. So it's a different mentality
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  from middle-class blue-collar, or white-collar employees, it is
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  what it is. So you're able to create, it's a
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  different lifestyle. It's a different mentality
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  altogether. The byproduct of what you do is
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  getting paid. Now you can be you can be as sag
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  extra your entire life and have a good existence.
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  Well you know, we don't you know, you don't go to the gym
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  with me. Not the intentions of at least
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  getting stronger, right? You're you're in this field.
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  It's like being on set. And, you know, it's like you,
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  Jim, you do improv you're exhausting when you're done,
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  why? Because it's your gymnasium.
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  It's your Jumpin around. You're hitting those weights,
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  you're doing your thing, it's your gymnasium.
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  Now, I learned early on that, I'm a method actor.
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  My first everything was Of Mice and Men, I was Lenny.
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  And I've only taken two courses in my entire life and I'll work,
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  we'll Circle back on that. Yeah, well, so I learned that
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  I'm a method actor, because I would drive home from Manhattan,
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  after doing, Lenny, and I'm exhausted, and I'm crying, and
• 21:37
  I'm depressed at. What the heck is going on here?
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  And I was married at the time, and I came in just so distraught
• 21:47
  and I did 10 shows. And after ten shows, I'm like,
• 21:50
  screw this. I quit, I quit.
• 21:52
  I I don't like this feeling. I quit.
• 21:54
  Well, talking to my mentor. Jim demonic.
• 21:57
  Jim used to teach at the American Academy of dramatic
• 22:00
  arts and sciences and Jim looks like Robert Baratheon from Game
• 22:04
  of Thrones, okay? So you sure, you got, you got
• 22:07
  the reference, okay, love him. Dearly, we're both Freemasons,
• 22:10
  great guy, great friend. And he's like, well, obviously
• 22:14
  you're a method actor and I'm like, Jim, I don't know what
• 22:16
  that means. I don't care.
• 22:18
  I'm out. Of course, I got back into it
• 22:21
  two weeks later, what? It's not that.
• 22:23
  That I had, it's not that I was beaten as a child.
• 22:25
  It's not that I wanted for much of anything as a child, you
• 22:29
  know, just a middle-class Scotch-Irish Town Kearny.
• 22:34
  New Jersey, Soccer Town, USA, with the high school, with a
• 22:39
  bunch of Olympians, Tony Meola, John harkes harkes, I believe
• 22:45
  hark, son plays for Mu Manchester, I may be wrong, my
• 22:50
  apologies, if I am if he Play, they should get him because he's
• 22:54
  a great. He takes after Dad, I saw a clip
• 22:58
  clip of him on YouTube, really talented kid, but who knew, but
• 23:04
  it's kind of instinctual and I was on the show a few months
• 23:06
  back, a different podcasts. And we're talking well, how do
• 23:09
  you tap into that man? You can go dark real quick.
• 23:13
  You can cry man. You just so evil looking and I'm
• 23:16
  like, well, thank you, thank you very much.
• 23:19
  Thank you very much. Are the Academy Oscar goes to
• 23:23
  Thank you, but it's instinctual. It's instinctual.
• 23:27
  I can do a table where you can give me a script now, and I will
• 23:30
  give you so much energy, regard, wherever it's supposed to go.
• 23:35
  And you could feed, we can feed off each other real quick.
• 23:39
  I did this movie chances. I guess about a month and a half
• 23:42
  two months ago now. It is dark, it is dark, it is
• 23:46
  deep. I get the script and we do a
• 23:48
  table, we would do a rehearsal, just two actors just mean this
• 23:51
  kid, David David Aldean. Young guy.
• 23:54
  It was his third everything and he's all nervous about it.
• 23:57
  I'm like look. Relax, we're going to do about
• 24:02
  50 different takes. Don't worry about being off
• 24:05
  book, we're going to be fine. Don't worry about your
• 24:08
  character. I'm going to give you, I'm gonna
• 24:10
  give you enough energy, you're going to love me at the end or
• 24:14
  you're going to want to beat the shit out of me and he didn't
• 24:17
  have they didn't have a clue as to what I was talking about and
• 24:20
  I'm like, we got this covered and what happened.
• 24:23
  Now, he's like my best friend and I think I got the poster up
• 24:26
  on Facebook recently, it's a dark dark.
• 24:29
  Movie Die, which I'm excited to see.
• 24:33
  Awesome. Awesome award.
• 24:36
  It comes to method acting. Do you sort of pursue the whole,
• 24:40
  keeping it with in character, the whole, the whole time.
• 24:43
  So, like even outside of actual filming, you're still in that
• 24:47
  character mindset or I'm not Dad.
• 24:50
  I know, I know mr. Pacino.
• 24:53
  When he did donkihote got darker hotei when he's off stage, she
• 24:57
  still Don Quixote. I need to do something physical
• 25:01
  to get out of the character. So, if we're on, for 23 days,
• 25:05
  you know, three, four days straight, I try to stay, but in
• 25:11
  order to shake it off, or to get out of it, I need to change my
• 25:14
  physiology. I need to hit the gym.
• 25:16
  I need to swim. I need to run.
• 25:18
  I need to do something because look at, look at some of the
• 25:22
  great method actors of late over the past 10 years, Heath Ledger
• 25:28
  Rest in peace. Philip Seymour Hoffman, rest in
• 25:31
  peace, Robin Williams. Rest in peace now even even back
• 25:36
  then I enjoy my single malt scotch but I never got into
• 25:40
  anything too deep or anything. Let's say in the various you
• 25:44
  know I mean it is what it is. I'd rather do something more
• 25:47
  physical to not harm my instrument rather than enhance
• 25:52
  my instrument. You get that you understand
• 25:55
  that? Because it's tough.
• 25:58
  I mean, when I'm on set between takes I'm off on my own little
• 26:02
  corner by myself. It's not that unsociable.
• 26:06
  And I explained that, you know, to The Ensemble, the people I'm
• 26:08
  in the scene with, I'd rather be in my own little head.
• 26:14
  Be my own little space, so I can maintain our odds is to sit in
• 26:18
  my chair and close my eyes. You know?
• 26:20
  And people think I'm napping, I'm not napping, I'm just
• 26:23
  staying in a state. That when you're ready, I can
• 26:26
  give you that. Energy.
• 26:28
  I can give you what you need because it is straining.
• 26:32
  And that's I I train a lot, you know, to kind of be able to give
• 26:38
  the director what they want and keep that energy level.
• 26:41
  Haha, awesome. It makes sense to you, you're in
• 26:45
  the business. So that's you know but it's not
• 26:48
  it's not all that easy. I had a rehearsal, excuse me, I
• 26:51
  had an audition yesterday and I read for three different
• 26:54
  characters and you know Each each of the sides took you on an
• 27:00
  emotional Journey. So, I'm thinking okay, well,
• 27:04
  here's a, here's a married couple, and the guy obviously,
• 27:08
  is, it isn't paying attention to his wife.
• 27:11
  So, here's a, here's a turd tearjerker moment.
• 27:14
  So I'm going through it, and then I take a few beats, and
• 27:17
  then I go right for the heart. Strings.
• 27:19
  Boom. And when you have the cast and
• 27:20
  directors cry, when you make the casting directors, well up in
• 27:25
  tears and they're like You just go?
• 27:29
  Yes. I guess and afterwards I went up
• 27:32
  to thank them that. It's thank you and I was like,
• 27:38
  you know, but it's not fake. It's truly being in that
• 27:46
  character being in that moment and giving them what they want
• 27:48
  and really wowing them. And I really you know when you
• 27:52
  love what you do man, it's just you know Christian it comes
• 27:55
  across and you have fun. So couldn't agree more.
• 28:00
  What advice could you give to aspiring actors people like
• 28:05
  trying to get into the industry? People that are such as myself,
• 28:08
  who are kind of just thrown for the fences?
• 28:11
  Praying at what were most? Could you give run fast the
• 28:18
  other way? Get your degrees, get a Jo B.
• 28:24
  Now, I, I do Mentor, new actors. As I take on kind of to every
• 28:30
  like every 36 months, okay, you've got to run it like a
• 28:33
  business, you've got to know it's a business if you have that
• 28:38
  business mentality. Now I have unique background you
• 28:43
  know I was a young.com executive.
• 28:47
  My I come from my mother was an opera is an entrepreneur, you
• 28:52
  know? So I've always I have a
• 28:55
  different mentality and as we were discussing, Singer, Lee
• 28:58
  your brand, you've got to manage your own brand because you are
• 29:02
  the, the brand. You are what your marketing.
• 29:06
  So I tell everybody up front, no, your business plan, what do
• 29:12
  you want to do in this business? Are you just looking to make
• 29:14
  some part-time money, terrific? Are you looking to do with
• 29:18
  nights and weekends? Great, is it a passion?
• 29:20
  Do you want to do stage? That's terrific.
• 29:23
  What do you want to do? Know I've had a game plan early
• 29:27
  on, and when I was Younger Christian in the business.
• 29:29
  I'm sorry. Shut off when you mail.
• 29:31
  It was me and about 10 million other guys and gals and I knew
• 29:36
  if I could maintain some sort of you know working every other
• 29:40
  week every week in about 10 years from now that 10 million
• 29:46
  guys and gals, right? They're going to drop out and
• 29:49
  there's only going to be a few of us remaining outside of that
• 29:53
  if I can just maintain and stay steady.
• 29:56
  You see that's my business plan. Because back in the day, all I
• 29:59
  got was young dad and young businessman.
• 30:02
  I could never get the Calvin Klein model.
• 30:04
  I can't, I can't see why but I just never got that.
• 30:07
  You got that good-looking smile on those beautiful eyes.
• 30:11
  And no, I'm not, not hitting anybody me, but here's the
• 30:15
  thing. No, what, you know.
• 30:18
  Okay, build your network, build your reputation, because
• 30:23
  everyone's watching. Whether it's a short, whether
• 30:28
  it's a commercial, whether it's a feature, you don't know who's
• 30:32
  looking at you every time. I'm on set, one project begats
• 30:37
  another project because the DP the cinematographer might be
• 30:43
  looking at, you know, back back in their mind.
• 30:45
  They're thinking Christian be perfect for this.
• 30:48
  I'm just writing the script. All I get to put Christian in
• 30:51
  touch with this, with this person, so you never know.
• 30:54
  So, it's important to work to build a good relationship.
• 30:58
  Be professional. Tom Hanks, says, you got to show
• 31:03
  up early. If you're on time, you're late.
• 31:05
  If you're on time, you're late, yesterday's audition was 1:00.
• 31:09
  I showed up about 11:30 and I'm just I take my time in my space,
• 31:14
  you know, you've got to be off. Hook.
• 31:17
  If you show up on set, you got to be solid and know your lines
• 31:22
  and then you have to bring 10 to 12 different ideas, but that's
• 31:26
  part of the advice. Being young and in the business
• 31:30
  you've got to get in front of every camera.
• 31:33
  Any camera every chance you get no job too big.
• 31:36
  No job too small. You're going to do some
• 31:38
  freebies, you're going to work you know and and do some some
• 31:42
  overnight shoots. You got to pay your dues but you
• 31:47
  know it's going towards something.
• 31:48
  I use the analogy. As I said a few minutes ago,
• 31:51
  it's like going to the gym. The first time you want.
• 31:55
  You walked into the gym. Do you do bench press 250
• 31:57
  pounds? You probably did.
• 31:59
  God bless you. I certainly can't.
• 32:02
  I've been training one way shape or form.
• 32:03
  Since sophomore year in high school.
• 32:05
  If I was doing 65 85 pounds, that's a lot but I'm doing the
• 32:11
  Reps. I'm getting stronger.
• 32:12
  I'm building. Same thing with acting.
• 32:15
  You've got to go through the Reps.
• 32:18
  Nice, it's amazing. How much we have in common as
• 32:21
  far as how we see this business. I couldn't agree more.
• 32:25
  I'd say exactly the same way. Dawn asset recently, I said to
• 32:30
  this guy we were just doing extras work for some commercial
• 32:34
  in Asia or something. I don't know.
• 32:36
  It was a lot of fun, we were just bantering, you know, as
• 32:39
  soon as the cameras on business you know but we did something
• 32:42
  right because fun story as soon as I got on set, I'm told I have
• 32:47
  a speaking role in a bump up the pee.
• 32:49
  I'm like, oh great. And then this the director comes
• 32:51
  up to me right bear in mind. I'm dressed suited and booted.
• 32:54
  I'm just like, I'm at a wedding. Like, that's so good.
• 32:56
  I'm dressed, right? I need you. he comes up to me
• 32:59
  and he just goes, hey, you like a cameraman and I'm like But he
• 33:06
  might as well just slap me or told me that face for radio.
• 33:09
  You know, it's that kind of moment and I just, I just turned
• 33:12
  to the guy I was with it. As I, of course.
• 33:14
  He said that. Yeah, it was fun.
• 33:15
  And I just walked around with like, a cam literal camera from
• 33:18
  the 1980s that wasn't even plugged in, it's hilarious.
• 33:21
  But anyway, the reason I bring it up, when we were talking, we
• 33:26
  got chatting about, you know, like different projects, why we
• 33:28
  do acting etcetera, you know, and ice.
• 33:31
  And this is my comment mentality.
• 33:33
  Is I always look at it's like three.
• 33:35
  Things every project I have three consideration point before
• 33:39
  I take it on firstly, a like where is it going to be seen?
• 33:44
  You know, who's going to be seen excetera?
• 33:46
  You know, I've had offers to go on TV shows and I decided it
• 33:51
  didn't fit with the brand, it went against what I was trying
• 33:53
  to do. Yes, you'd be on TV and people
• 33:56
  have said to me, why didn't you go for it?
• 33:58
  You know, you would have been on TV but it's like it's not
• 34:02
  putting yourself in the you're not presenting yourself in the
• 34:05
  right. Way, that's correct.
• 34:06
  Was it reality TV? Yeah.
• 34:08
  Well, no, it was some sort of Dating show or whatever.
• 34:12
  Yeah, dating is, here's the thing and kudos to you for
• 34:16
  identifying that because reality TV shows and no offense to
• 34:20
  anyone is the death knell of a series actor.
• 34:25
  I think it's death knell to Serious active.
• 34:27
  I was on, I was on set of the man in the white van and and
• 34:33
  part of my family, the casting was amazing.
• 34:35
  I didn't mean to cut. You short want to give you a
• 34:37
  quick analogy. The casting was amazing.
• 34:40
  I'm 61, my wife was 59. Our daughter was 56, brunette
• 34:45
  brunette brunette. We look like the good Lord
• 34:49
  planted us together and we were of the same DNA.
• 34:52
  It was great. Casting, the daughter has 6
• 34:56
  million, Instagram followers, and stuff like that.
• 35:00
  So she did that because she she got that because she was part of
• 35:04
  Dance Moms back in the day, a reality TV show, okay?
• 35:07
  And she said herself, she's more personality now and it's tough
• 35:11
  to get get different roles. I did a movie gray people with a
• 35:16
  guy that was on love island or one of those shows and the
• 35:22
  movies coming out and I'm like, you look familiar.
• 35:25
  You goes. Yeah, look different clothes on
• 35:27
  it, and that's not what I'm saying, brother.
• 35:29
  That's out. I'm Saying, I ain't looking at
• 35:32
  you that way, son. But it's just, it's just funny.
• 35:36
  I'm glad. And I'm like, dude, you're
• 35:38
  lucky, you got this role and I just you know, from talking it
• 35:42
  to my manager, there's a lot of ucg stuff out there.
• 35:47
  There's a lot of reality shows out there but it's like anything
• 35:51
  else there's always changes in the environment, right?
• 35:56
  If it weighs heavy this way it'll come back around Just
• 36:01
  maintain what you doing. You're 100% right.
• 36:03
  We get calls every day. Hey we want you to be that lead
• 36:06
  actor in this in this indie or or this or it can you help
• 36:10
  reduce this? And just like you said, the
• 36:12
  first question I asked her first two questions.
• 36:15
  Is this a passion project or do you want to go conquer the
• 36:18
  world? Is it going to be for your own
• 36:22
  edification? You're going to watch it 20
• 36:24
  years from now your grandkids or are we going for the further?
• 36:28
  Friggin Oscar? What are you doing?
• 36:30
  It's a totally different mentality.
• 36:33
  You know. Now I were I work with friends
• 36:35
  and kind of do a favor here and there but I'm here, just like,
• 36:39
  just like you are to further your career and to get the
• 36:43
  bigger roles and to and to get that brass ring and the push the
• 36:47
  ball forward, you know. So The question we had a we had
• 36:52
  a zoom meeting last week. With a writer.
• 36:57
  Thank you was from Vegas and his manager from like La whatnot.
• 37:01
  And that's the first questions I asked up front, you know, what's
• 37:06
  the end game? Because again, from a business
• 37:09
  planning perspective, begin with the end in mind, what are we
• 37:13
  looking to achieve? What we're looking to achieve
• 37:17
  well, and then what's the budget?
• 37:19
  Well, we have a million dollar budget, in ten million dollar
• 37:21
  budget. We have a hundred thousand
• 37:22
  dollar budget, terrific, The Blair Witch Project was shot in
• 37:27
  Florida. Okay.
• 37:28
  You know, you get the analogy by bunch of I noticed respect, I
• 37:33
  believe they're Florida. Florida Gators.
• 37:37
  I'm probably going to get that wrong.
• 37:38
  Get chastise in Florida, but what was that budget?
• 37:42
  And what did they go on to make? Oh, I don't know a million times
• 37:45
  more than what they put in. But that you never know
• 37:50
  lightning strikes in Hollywood. Once maybe twice, I've got
• 37:54
  unlawful duties. It's a short that I did.
• 37:57
  I actually did it as a favor, so nail Kanani writer director,
• 38:02
  producer, calls me up. Hey Dad, how you don't know?
• 38:06
  I work with Sunil, I worked with Christopher Vox.
• 38:09
  This great people, great friends because again that Network that
• 38:11
  friendship of, Hey, Dad, how you do a great man.
• 38:14
  Hey, I see, you've been busy yet.
• 38:15
  Thanks to Neil what's going on, can't Do me a favor.
• 38:19
  Yeah, what do you got going on? You have anything going on this
• 38:21
  weekend? Now pretty open.
• 38:24
  I was gonna like sleep, catch up on sleep.
• 38:26
  Maybe hit the gym. Hey man, I got Christopher Von
• 38:29
  and he's in here from Vegas. Can you help us out this short?
• 38:33
  Sure, brother. Whatever you need, I went up
• 38:35
  there. I got the script one up there.
• 38:37
  I worked with Chris before we did a read and there was this
• 38:41
  bang, There was a Synergy. Well, we laid it down.
• 38:44
  Unlawful duties, has 1 million views on Amazon Prime,
• 38:50
  Congratulations. 1 million views.
• 38:53
  Thank you. Who knew, hmm, Killer Miller my
• 38:57
  first Western. Now last year's this time I had
• 39:00
  bigger hair. I had like, I was like an 80s
• 39:05
  prom, girl, if it was, my hair doesn't grow, longer has high,
• 39:10
  and if I pulled it out, it be down about here, but it was just
• 39:12
  curl, it's on. IMDb I did kill a Miller and RJ,
• 39:17
  Hendrix, writer-producer calls me up and And I did the audition
• 39:20
  for him and it wasn't sure if it was 1890s or 25:9 because I
• 39:25
  didn't know what era would you like, the timber in my voice and
• 39:30
  you like to scowl on my face and you like how it like, like my
• 39:34
  real. So, he goes to me goes, you know
• 39:37
  how to ride a horse, right? Yes, sir.
• 39:39
  Yes, I do. When do we shoot?
• 39:44
  We're going to shoot when you start principal shooting, six
• 39:46
  months from now. I can go learn how to ride a
• 39:49
  horse. I did that.
• 39:51
  Killer Miller has 140 film festivals and I garnered three
• 39:56
  best actors from it. Oh, congratulations.
• 39:59
  My point being, you never know? Hmm.
• 40:01
  Daddy. We're back.
• 40:04
  Dramedy that I did down here two years ago.
• 40:07
  Now, we got picked up by two networks so you just you just
• 40:12
  never know. So my advice to newbies.
• 40:17
  Do everything, throw enough stuff against the wall and see
• 40:20
  what fits see what sticks. You never know, would you say
• 40:23
  that you get the majority of your rose through building those
• 40:27
  connections, or do you still have to spend a lot of time,
• 40:30
  auditioning and reaching out to people?
• 40:32
  You know? It's a combination prior to
• 40:35
  working with Rebecca, Rebecca Meehan my manager.
• 40:38
  I people would ask me, you know, like, oh my gosh.
• 40:42
  Dennis, you're so busy. What's the secret?
• 40:44
  Well, 70% of my Rose came through me and my networking and
• 40:50
  my put my name out there in my auditioning.
• 40:53
  Am I building relationships? So yeah I had outside of that
• 40:58
  cattle call yesterday I five auditions so now I don't check
• 41:03
  the auditions Christian I just tracked the winds.
• 41:06
  You know. I mean I don't track you know
• 41:09
  how many times how many reps I've done?
• 41:11
  Okay. I just track you know, with the
• 41:14
  my purse Personal gain. All right.
• 41:18
  My French Press is got up from this to that and in 23 months.
• 41:22
  Great. I don't count how many reps and
• 41:25
  how much pain I've gone through. I can't the winds, so keeps my
• 41:30
  mind. Focus on the success.
• 41:32
  Now, could it be 100 auditions, 2-1 win?
• 41:35
  I don't know, but it's part of the process, it's part of the
• 41:39
  process. And that's what I focus on right
• 41:44
  now. Today is February. if we are at
• 41:48
  130 percent of or yearly goal, now that's from voiceovers,
• 41:53
  that's been doing podcasts National commercials that's from
• 41:58
  being in features, we're crushing our yearly go So again,
• 42:03
  back to be a business person and have your business plan, what
• 42:07
  are you going to focus on? See, you can wake up today and
• 42:10
  you can decide it's going to be a great day.
• 42:12
  It's going to be a poor day. You can decide you can decide if
• 42:17
  you're going to lose this day and it's going to slip away and
• 42:19
  you're going to putz around and do nothing.
• 42:22
  Or you've got a purpose and things.
• 42:25
  You're going to do to move the ball forward, because there's
• 42:28
  only two things you can really manage in your life.
• 42:30
  What are they? Your attitude and your work
• 42:33
  ethic. Think about it, everything else
• 42:35
  around you, man is noise, you know, we all have noise in her
• 42:39
  life. How do you choose to deal and
• 42:41
  put up with that noise? That's the differential.
• 42:45
  That's a differentiator between you and somebody else you being
• 42:50
  successful in the other person, being not successful.
• 42:54
  And I'm not I'll never get on a podcast or anything and say,
• 42:59
  look at me, I'm going to lighten be now I'm not working for
• 43:02
  correct. I'm a Everyday work in progress,
• 43:05
  man. And that's, that's what keeps me
• 43:08
  focused. Keeps me.
• 43:09
  Humble keeps my head down, and lets me grind, you know, and
• 43:13
  that's, you know, working with Rebecca.
• 43:16
  I've always, I've always said, I had a manager and stuff like
• 43:19
  that prior to her and I said, look, if you can work hard, if
• 43:24
  you can work. Half as hard as I can for
• 43:27
  myself, we're going to make a ton of money.
• 43:29
  We're going to have a lot of fun.
• 43:31
  She is where I can. She's giving me a run for my
• 43:33
  money. And I'm loving it.
• 43:35
  I'm loving it, man. I'm just so happy and so blessed
• 43:39
  right now. It's just, it's amazing.
• 43:41
  It's fun. What's the best acting advice
• 43:46
  you've ever received from another actor or, you know,
• 43:49
  producer-director Etc, be sincere, be yourself.
• 43:57
  Show the director something. When I first came down here, I
• 43:59
  did beauty is skin-deep. Joe Davidson was our director
• 44:03
  Jennifer Phillips writer. I met Jennifer at an audition
• 44:09
  and she kind of, she sends me a text message, like, six months
• 44:12
  later. Hey, got a role for you.
• 44:14
  I want to book you, I didn't know who it was.
• 44:16
  That was sending me this text message.
• 44:18
  Could have been Scorsese Tarantino cousin Phillips.
• 44:22
  I don't know. So so when you read that text
• 44:25
  message, You got two decisions to make quickly, I'm sorry.
• 44:30
  Who are you or? Hey, thank you so much.
• 44:33
  I'm looking forward to it. Hey, thank you so much.
• 44:36
  I'm looking forward to it. And then taking who's that and
• 44:40
  almost say oh can you send me the details via email?
• 44:45
  This is my email, then you get their name.
• 44:47
  Just yeah. We that that's what I'm here
• 44:50
  for. Thank you so much.
• 44:54
  Love and kisses. You're I appreciate you Rara and
• 45:00
  that, oh, by the way, and then you eat.
• 45:03
  It's like, oh, I'm on set and I'm doing it kind of It kind of
• 45:13
  an intimate scene and I'm in a tuxedo and, and I'm a, I'm a
• 45:19
  divorcee. I'm a lawyer.
• 45:22
  I'm a real prick. It's, I can play those
• 45:24
  characters pretty well. So I'm in my tuxedo me my black
• 45:28
  tie and what adjusting myself looking at my watch and we're
• 45:31
  late for my party. So my new wife at the time, he
• 45:37
  had a name, it'll come to me. My apologies.
• 45:39
  She comes to me touches me and I turn around and I'm barking at
• 45:43
  her. And I'm just, I'm just, I'm just
• 45:46
  yelling. I'm just being totally acerbic.
• 45:50
  I'm barking at her and barking at my stepkids
• 45:53
  bah-bah-bah-bah-bah, Joe comes up to me.
• 45:57
  And she looks at me, he goes then you look great, your voice
• 46:02
  man, your booming, you have such presence.
• 46:05
  You just you you shine on the screen and looking at him, he
• 46:11
  owes trying to do the scene a little more intimately.
• 46:17
  And I look at him for five seconds.
• 46:21
  And I got and it would snap. So, instead of being all like
• 46:24
  we're late. What she touches me, I turn
• 46:28
  around, I grab her hands. I look at her and it went so
• 46:33
  intimate. You know, instead of being that
• 46:37
  guy I was that guy change the scene dramatically and we did, I
• 46:45
  don't know, but it doesn't take sore.
• 46:46
  So we got done in the Pas coming up to us and asking us how long
• 46:51
  were married for. We guys are obviously a couple
• 46:54
  how long you been married for? No, we just met each other, six
• 46:57
  hours ago. Oh yeah.
• 47:00
  So in talking to Joe afterwards and talk to Jennifer after that,
• 47:05
  They're like, well, you know, obviously you've got such a
• 47:08
  great instrument, try to do things a lot more intimately.
• 47:13
  And that's out of that, I've received great, you know,
• 47:16
  feedback you know, throughout the years and stuff like that,
• 47:20
  but you just never know. And it was such a great scene
• 47:25
  and you need to go, big first and foremost because if I didn't
• 47:30
  show Joe that Dimension and that range and that Timber, you
• 47:36
  wouldn't have known where to take me, you know?
• 47:39
  So he took me, he took me down and I was able to interpret
• 47:43
  Interpret exactly what he meant because a lot of times it is
• 47:48
  frustrating from an actor because you don't know what they
• 47:50
  want for say because they don't know how to communicate or they
• 47:54
  just don't communicate. You're trying to you're trying
• 47:57
  to stay in your head, you try and to give the director
• 48:00
  something and you're like what do you think was that good?
• 48:03
  Oh yeah, yeah, that that's great.
• 48:05
  Just keep doing what you're doing.
• 48:07
  All right, all right. Cool.
• 48:10
  You know and you never know how things are going to happen.
• 48:13
  I did a student film at Full Sail College, okay?
• 48:18
  And I had to cry and I had a cry and I had a cry and like like I
• 48:24
  said, check out some of my work. I can go there.
• 48:27
  My eyes are red and snotty. I'm just wet.
• 48:31
  So we did 20 takes Oh my God. Now, you now hear the story.
• 48:38
  I'm going to tie it all together.
• 48:39
  Now, the instructor was busted in the directors chops.
• 48:43
  Definitely busting his chops. So here I am.
• 48:46
  The who's the guys? Christian, Brazilian guy,
• 48:50
  sweetheart of a guy, great guy. He's in the gurney, he's in the
• 48:54
  stretcher. And after the eighth take, I've
• 48:58
  got nothing left in the tank and it's not that it's ten different
• 49:02
  angles. It's straight on.
• 49:04
  Its Wait up. So you already got the close up.
• 49:07
  You really got this angle. I can't I got nothing left.
• 49:11
  Yeah, so I saw the guy He was an add at a Star Wars Cantina,
• 49:18
  shoot, two months ago now and he remembered me and I, you know,
• 49:25
  Dennis, how are you? Good to see you again.
• 49:27
  I hope they get this guy's of, no, good, you know.
• 49:30
  He killed tried to kill me two years prior and he's like,
• 49:34
  Dennis. Hey, how are you?
• 49:35
  Hey, I got a knew you were coming.
• 49:38
  Look, we're going to do this with you.
• 49:40
  You're going to be, you're going to be spotlighted.
• 49:41
  We got the upgrade Lala Yeah. And like hey man, thanks, how's
• 49:45
  school going? What's going on?
• 49:47
  Hey, what kind of in between things?
• 49:49
  But great. Great, great, thank you so much
• 49:51
  for coming out. That is just such a great actor,
• 49:53
  you know? You such a great guy.
• 49:55
  Dot dot dot, dot dot where I'm thinking, you know, good son of
• 49:59
  a, you know, keep your shit together because you never know
• 50:04
  when it's going to come around. So I'm basically, you know, I'm
• 50:09
  highlighted in the Star Wars, Cantina, shoot, shoot, so you
• 50:14
  Never know, you never know. It might be a little arduous on
• 50:17
  your journey, but people remember and people come around
• 50:22
  and you never know who you're gonna see tomorrow.
• 50:27
  So keep your shit together, keep it together.
• 50:30
  Speaking wanna go off keep it together.
• 50:33
  Speaking of which, I mean, even if you've had quite a lot of
• 50:39
  experiences in pretty major Motion Pictures, But I want to I
• 50:44
  want to focus one on one. That's obviously a bit closer to
• 50:47
  your heart as far as your upbringing and Heritage Etc.
• 50:51
  You were also on the Irishman. Sure.
• 50:55
  Chad an amazing cast. What can you tell us about your
• 50:58
  experience working on the Irishman?
• 51:01
  Sure well I was I was in a Victorian Hotel in Miami and my
• 51:08
  scene was set in the 1950s. So I was basically wearing the
• 51:14
  clothes of my grandfather would wear and you can just imagine
• 51:18
  mean the pants are up to about here, right?
• 51:21
  I had a fedora going on. I had a button-down bowling
• 51:24
  shirt. I just I loved it.
• 51:27
  And I was really, I was channeling my grandfather and I
• 51:31
  came out of this beautiful car. This beautiful car and I was a
• 51:36
  union delegate. So you got you, my car pulls up
• 51:40
  and No, it was a 56 or 64, it was such a gorgeous car and I'm
• 51:47
  getting out of it. And I got my hat on looking
• 51:50
  around, you know, taking my presence and I'm walking into
• 51:53
  this hotel. And whenever you're on set, you
• 51:56
  know, two days to weeks to months, you always build an
• 52:00
  affinity with the cast. You always build friends.
• 52:04
  Now I wasn't on set with the principles, okay?
• 52:08
  But you build relationships and You know, we had a few
• 52:12
  curmudgeons, you know, that no one's ever going to work with
• 52:16
  again but hey, you never know. Yeah, I mean things happen.
• 52:21
  Thanks, honey. But it was such a great
• 52:24
  experience. You know, you working with a
• 52:27
  top-notch casting you working with with top-notch costuming
• 52:32
  and everything like that. They basically, I went down for
• 52:35
  a haircut for wardrobe and they they they buzzed me up.
• 52:39
  They gave me a 50 style haircut. I think the picture pictures on
• 52:43
  IMDb. They baked three different
• 52:46
  products into my hair, like A put in this gel and they're
• 52:50
  just, you know, blow drying and then they put something else and
• 52:53
  it took me like two days to get the stuff out.
• 52:56
  Oh well, it was hysterical. I looked like Johnny Marr.
• 53:00
  No, Johnny, Johnny Rotten from The Sex Pistols.
• 53:02
  I I pulled it all up. It was standing about this high.
• 53:05
  It's just like it was hysterical.
• 53:08
  It was hysterical, I drove home that way, you know, but it's
• 53:12
  just, it's so much fun. Three and a half hour movie.
• 53:15
  You get to work with the principal.
• 53:18
  When you say principles, do you mean like the main actors?
• 53:20
  The main cast, is that what you mean?
• 53:22
  Okay. So, you know Janeiro Pesci.
• 53:24
  So you didn't actually get to see them doing their thing out
• 53:27
  with Darcy know they'll bear and I honestly didn't watch the
• 53:31
  movie. Okay.
• 53:33
  Three and a half hour movie. I I met the author of the book.
• 53:36
  It's based on the book, I hear you paint houses.
• 53:40
  So I read the book great book. Now being born and raised in New
• 53:46
  Jersey in the shadow of giants. Giant football stadium.
• 53:50
  That's where Hoffa is buried. Nobody knows, nobody knows to
• 53:55
  this day where a phase. So somebody does just like who
• 53:59
  shot JFK. Somebody knows but you know
• 54:02
  whatever I won't know in his lifetime and I'm not going to
• 54:05
  waste time caring but switching it on the Big movie front.
• 54:11
  You were also in Jumanji the next level, which obviously
• 54:15
  features The Rock, Dwayne Johnson, amongst others.
• 54:21
  What was that? Like, that must have been
• 54:23
  something different. I work with Kevin Hart and I'm
• 54:28
  61 and Kevin's five foot nothing.
• 54:31
  Yeah, he's such a sweetheart. It was just, it was so much fun.
• 54:35
  I was the the second husband, if you would And it was just, it
• 54:41
  was just so much fun. Obviously I'm, you know, I'm
• 54:43
  white obviously, Kevin's not, obviously, I'm tall, Kevin's not
• 54:48
  and it was just, I don't know if it was more improved, but it was
• 54:52
  just kind of my presence there and I really full disclosure.
• 54:58
  I really don't watch my work per se.
• 55:00
  Hmm, you know, unless I'm forced to go to a premier and stuff
• 55:04
  like that. So I'm not sure if I made it in
• 55:07
  the in the Final Cut or not, but it was just so much.
• 55:10
  On. It's just you know, in if you
• 55:13
  respect people, they respect you.
• 55:15
  If your, if your prick then you know they have an award you.
• 55:20
  It's a Kevin's like a humble guy like no ego or anything like
• 55:23
  that. I don't know if he's a humble
• 55:24
  guy or an ego guy but he was just fun.
• 55:27
  Yeah, but he comes on set. He gives me one of these.
• 55:33
  Okay. Yeah.
• 55:35
  You know I like blessed mr. Hart.
• 55:37
  Dennis melon damn. Glad to meet you.
• 55:40
  Yeah, it was like a hundred people a days and maybe you were
• 55:54
  in one of my favorite movies which gets a lot of hate, but I
• 55:57
  don't care. You were in the 1998 version of
• 56:00
  Godzilla. Sure.
• 56:02
  Which most people like to laugh at and I understand why.
• 56:06
  But one key thing I remember about that movie is Just lots of
• 56:12
  rain just and I don't know if that's artificial, or if I don't
• 56:16
  back conditions. What was your experience working
• 56:19
  on that? Were you close to getting
• 56:22
  hypothermia? I don't know what was it like
• 56:24
  working here before. You know, it wasn't, it wasn't
• 56:26
  that bad at all. It was done during the summer.
• 56:28
  And it was basically my scenes are on Wall Street.
• 56:31
  And, you know, Matthew Broderick Hank Azaria, the great Hank
• 56:37
  Azaria, the great Matthew Broderick, So I was picked out
• 56:42
  of the crowd, okay? I have an act and, you know,
• 56:46
  it's definitely a blessing. I got picked out of a crowd, so
• 56:50
  I'm standing in the iconic scene where the mayor is addressing
• 56:56
  the crowd, okay? And I thought I was just a
• 57:00
  stand-in, we're here I am. You've got the George Washington
• 57:03
  statue and I'm right here. Now, I'm figuring.
• 57:07
  I'm a stand-in, just just for the angles.
• 57:10
  So here's the camera angle, it's on it's it's like this way it's
• 57:14
  not straight on. So I've got all this room to
• 57:17
  play. I've got all this room to play.
• 57:20
  Now, note to self and no to everybody else.
• 57:23
  Always know where the camera is. Yes, always know your angles
• 57:26
  because you know, I might add a frame over here or am I right
• 57:30
  here in frame? Okay.
• 57:32
  So I had this camera angle and I quickly made my own attention.
• 57:36
  I'm not security. I'm a councilman and what a
• 57:40
  good. Counsel people do Alderman.
• 57:42
  Whatever. What?
• 57:43
  Right I'm blowing. Kisses to my constituents.
• 57:48
  I'm waving to my constituents, I'm playing this up.
• 57:51
  I've got all this room to play now.
• 57:53
  Whether the director is going to keep me in or not I'm playing it
• 57:58
  up. I'm showing here.
• 57:59
  I'm showing the director something.
• 58:01
  Well, here comes, here comes the principal, the mayor, and God
• 58:05
  forgive me. I forget his name.
• 58:06
  So they kept me in and they kept the same angle.
• 58:10
  So the guys cracking jokes, he's cracking wise, and of doing my
• 58:14
  thing and I'm laughing at his jokes.
• 58:18
  You to me and I'm waving my constituents, some blow kisses.
• 58:22
  And what do you hear? Boom.
• 58:26
  Boom. You remember the see I you know,
• 58:29
  Godzilla's coming up Wall Street, boom.
• 58:32
  Cars are bouncing. That was Hydraulics, and then
• 58:36
  it's like, all right? Okay, second action, run?
• 58:39
  Right up the stairs. Well, right behind the mayor,
• 58:42
  and we're running up the stairs. And here comes Godzilla look
• 58:44
  back, you know, so it was, it was just.
• 58:49
  So, it was just so much fun. Here's the thing.
• 58:53
  I haven't, I haven't acted in England yet.
• 58:57
  I'm sure there's a big pool of people.
• 59:01
  I'm sure it's a big Community but it's also a small community
• 59:05
  because everybody knows everybody in New York as large
• 59:08
  as it is. Everybody knows, everybody
• 59:11
  Florida. Atlanta is even smaller and
• 59:14
  everybody knows everybody. So when you're on set, you've
• 59:18
  got to be professional but you're going to build
• 59:20
  relationships. Yeah.
• 59:22
  When I first came Come down here.
• 59:24
  Now, got my New York relationships.
• 59:26
  Got my New York, agents, etc, etc.
• 59:28
  When I'm down here, I'm like, all right.
• 59:30
  I need to rebuild. I release.
• 59:32
  I need to expand. So, I did some stuff for Disney
• 59:36
  and I'm like, okay really isn't what I want to do in life.
• 59:42
  No offense, but I'm going to be a Disney extra and I learned
• 59:45
  from people, they ask the right questions and I didn't say,
• 59:49
  well, I'm 25 years in the business.
• 59:51
  I was just cool about it. And I'm like, well who's a good
• 59:53
  Agent down here? Who do you recommend?
• 59:56
  And I just got networked and I just built my network big-time
• 59:59
  really quick and I was able to replicate what I've done in the
• 1:00:03
  New York and a bigger Market in smaller market.
• 1:00:06
  And I've just grown exponentially, you know, and
• 1:00:09
  I've been able to keep busy through, you know, through the
• 1:00:12
  dark days through the code of times M.
• 1:00:15
  And now I just we've got a lot of great stuff on the horizon,
• 1:00:20
  and it's just we're really in A good place right now.
• 1:00:24
  Why did you actually move from from New York to Florida?
• 1:00:29
  So it's quite a big move state-by-state.
• 1:00:32
  Obviously, as you mentioned, there are different networks and
• 1:00:35
  everywhere that you go. But looks that's big.
• 1:00:38
  Big step. Why the move?
• 1:00:39
  Well, I always came down to Florida on vacation.
• 1:00:42
  I've got family any east coast and I always went to vacation on
• 1:00:46
  the west coast. So I was down here three or four
• 1:00:49
  times a year anyway. You can go and you can act any
• 1:00:54
  way you want me back in New York.
• 1:00:55
  It's a two and a half hour flight.
• 1:00:56
  If you want me in l.a., it's a five-hour flight six-hour flight
• 1:01:00
  so it really doesn't matter where you live per se.
• 1:01:02
  Okay, I've always wanted Florida, tired of the snow.
• 1:01:07
  I'm burned out of the snow. I was looking for a change as
• 1:01:11
  that. I was at a point in my life,
• 1:01:13
  where really doesn't matter where I live per se, it doesn't
• 1:01:17
  matter. I'm going to keep busy.
• 1:01:19
  I'm going to keep the same worth work ethic.
• 1:01:22
  And go anywhere. I mean, if I went to, you know,
• 1:01:24
  Wichita Kansas, I'd still be networking, still be working.
• 1:01:28
  So, we do my thing, but it snows in Wichita.
• 1:01:31
  So, and I came down here, I've got family down here and I kind
• 1:01:36
  of wanted to Foster and rebuild a relationship and, you know,
• 1:01:39
  kind of. So, from a personal and a
• 1:01:41
  professional perspective, it was, it was the time to make a
• 1:01:45
  move and it's seven years later and I'm still, I'm still having
• 1:01:49
  fun. I've been to New York, you know.
• 1:01:52
  Prior to the pandemic, I've been in l.a. working prior to the
• 1:01:56
  pandemic. I actually was booked for two
• 1:01:58
  big jobs in l.a. right before everything.
• 1:02:01
  Hit the fan. All right?
• 1:02:04
  Before covid. It the FED.
• 1:02:06
  Whoo. Yeah, that's what it is.
• 1:02:09
  Isn't it? Yeah.
• 1:02:10
  Moving it Forward. One thing I didn't ask you
• 1:02:14
  earlier, which I'd like to ask you about now, is, as you
• 1:02:18
  mentioned earlier, you used to be like at a tech CEO you
• 1:02:21
  involved in. Business and stuff.
• 1:02:22
  Now, obviously, it's very clear that you got into acting
• 1:02:26
  because, you know, you're passionate is what you want to
• 1:02:28
  do excetera, but it wasn't your first thing that you did, you
• 1:02:32
  were pursuing business. You were successful at it.
• 1:02:35
  I've got two questions for you here.
• 1:02:37
  So, that one why make the switch?
• 1:02:39
  I mean, you were a CEO and I've looked into your, you know, the
• 1:02:43
  other stuff that you did and you did as late as 2017.
• 1:02:46
  I believe. So you you've kept that going,
• 1:02:49
  you've kept hustling being an entrepreneur because I mean B5,
• 1:02:52
  once businessman, always bismuth.
• 1:02:53
  And I think it's just the mindset.
• 1:02:55
  Yeah, sure but yeah. One why the switch the dramatic
• 1:03:00
  switch and to like, how exactly did you get into acting?
• 1:03:05
  Where did they begin for? You, sure.
• 1:03:08
  Well, you know, back in the day, well before my birth, and
• 1:03:12
  before, my parents were married, my mother used to sing at
• 1:03:14
  Carnegie Hall. So my mother was in one aspect
• 1:03:18
  of the business and I wanted to get into it when I was 14 15.
• 1:03:21
  In 16 years old. And when we were going to make a
• 1:03:24
  foray into the business, I came down with chicken pox.
• 1:03:28
  So imagine being 61, I was on the lightweight rowing team.
• 1:03:32
  I was 140 pounds. Now I'm like 190 195. 140
• 1:03:36
  pounds. 6 foot 1 Crew, cut chicken pox.
• 1:03:42
  Not looking too pretty. And I'm like, all right, it's a
• 1:03:44
  sign from above, you know, it's not going to work.
• 1:03:49
  So here I am and I mentioned Jim demonic earlier.
• 1:03:53
  James. Ronald demonic jr.
• 1:03:54
  That's his name is demonic. It's just, it is what it is.
• 1:03:58
  Great guy looks like Robert Baratheon, Christian guy.
• 1:04:03
  Okay, that I know, yeah, and we totally hit it off.
• 1:04:08
  We're in the same fraternity together in the same Lodge
• 1:04:10
  together. And we'd meet Manhattan every
• 1:04:13
  Friday for a scotch and a cigar and at show from work and I'd be
• 1:04:18
  in a two-piece three-piece suit, you know, and every time I walk
• 1:04:21
  in is a guy, look at this kid, he came from Central, Casting
• 1:04:24
  Olivia, what a good-looking guy and like, all right, beat me up,
• 1:04:28
  beat me up, beat me up. And, you know, we started
• 1:04:30
  talking, he goes, you know, have you ever thought about, you
• 1:04:34
  know, making a move. And I've always had a passion
• 1:04:37
  for stuff. I've always had a passion for
• 1:04:39
  that, you know, you try to Figure out what your calling is
• 1:04:43
  early in life and, you know, you have success and, you know, your
• 1:04:46
  blast and you're working hard and I've always been the type of
• 1:04:49
  guy I've always been able to put my head down and just grind, you
• 1:04:54
  know, whatever noise is going on in my personal life and my
• 1:04:57
  private life. If I'm able to segment it and
• 1:05:00
  just put my head down like one aspect does not negatively
• 1:05:04
  affect the other aspect. So after you know, many a scotch
• 1:05:10
  and a scar would James I've asked him.
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  Okay. Well, what do I need to do?
• 1:05:15
  You need to get a headshot, the hell's a headshot, a picture.
• 1:05:18
  All right, who do I call, Bam, he had a phone number for me to
• 1:05:21
  call I called. Oh yeah, Jim said, you'd be
• 1:05:23
  boom. I get a head shot.
• 1:05:25
  All right, I got a headshot. What now, you need to learn how
• 1:05:28
  to read commercial cup. What the hell is commercial?
• 1:05:30
  Copy commercials who put me in touch with New York performance,
• 1:05:34
  Works Angela Montalbano, which is another good friend and a
• 1:05:37
  mentor Angela has been in the business or entire life.
• 1:05:41
  And she's kind of retired but I still keep in touch with their
• 1:05:44
  own Facebook, what a great influence and Italian woman from
• 1:05:48
  New York. Setting you straight in the
• 1:05:51
  beginning, okay? Can you in the butt teaching you
• 1:05:54
  what you need to do? Best experience I had.
• 1:05:57
  So I get all that stuff done and then I just slowly start.
• 1:06:02
  You know, I did all of mice and men, as I said earlier, my first
• 1:06:06
  audition China Airlines and I went out there.
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  I did the audition. I felt very comfortable.
• 1:06:14
  Pat Sweeney was the casting director at the time and she
• 1:06:17
  goes. Okay guys.
• 1:06:19
  Relax, you're a bunch of Technology Executives here.
• 1:06:23
  The set hear me out. You're about to technology
• 1:06:25
  Executives. You just how you just helped the
• 1:06:28
  company from China relocate to the states Christian.
• 1:06:32
  I did that six months prior I'm thinking this is surreal.
• 1:06:37
  So now it was me being young as I was at the time and 61 and a
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  lot of shorter gentleman that were follically challenged and
• 1:06:46
  I'm like, what am I doing here? I don't, I don't fit in with all
• 1:06:50
  this. I sat in the middle of the table
• 1:06:52
  took my space and she goes just talk to me and she goes action
• 1:06:56
  and I just started talking to her referencing him, referencing
• 1:06:59
  him going back and forth. And, you know, when you nailed
• 1:07:03
  something you walk out of this And year 2 which is taller.
• 1:07:06
  You're like your chest is popular.
• 1:07:08
  You nailed it. And you know when you have it
• 1:07:11
  and I walk down there and like I nailed it.
• 1:07:14
  So I forgot about a to call two days later from Pat Sweeney's
• 1:07:19
  office. Hey, we want to book you, you
• 1:07:21
  know, on these days we're going to pay you x ray.
• 1:07:23
  Who's your agent? And I'm like, can I call you
• 1:07:28
  back? Yeah.
• 1:07:29
  Jim who's my agent call? This guy gave me name of the big
• 1:07:34
  agent. Oh, the guy.
• 1:07:37
  Yeah, Jim said expect and I gave him my information.
• 1:07:41
  And he goes, what do they offer? No, no, no, we're going to get
• 1:07:43
  you double that. Yes, sir, thank you sir.
• 1:07:47
  And literally, I showed up on set, I was off book, makeup
• 1:07:53
  wardrobe, the whole nine. I'm the principal and now mind
• 1:07:57
  you. It's my second experience.
• 1:07:59
  It's my first commercial audition that I booked my first
• 1:08:02
  audition but my second experience.
• 1:08:05
  Acting all together. So, we lay down the first take
• 1:08:09
  and the director goes cut back to one.
• 1:08:13
  I look to the PA, I'm like, What does that mean?
• 1:08:17
  Oh, going to do it again. We're going to do it again.
• 1:08:20
  Oh yeah, we can do 10 takes from this angle and the attention
• 1:08:25
  that I'm like. So if I screw up and I'm
• 1:08:27
  thinking Christian, I'm thinking I can do this, I can do only
• 1:08:32
  this, this I can do stage your pants, fall down, you better
• 1:08:37
  keep going. Stage, you got something hanging
• 1:08:39
  out of your nose. You better keep moving.
• 1:08:42
  Here, I can screw up and we can do it.
• 1:08:46
  And I'm like, well this I can do this, this is going to be fun.
• 1:08:50
  A lot to this as well. Sometimes certain that directors
• 1:08:53
  I've worked with, sometimes I'm the one begging them to do more,
• 1:08:56
  takes that? Because they're like, yeah, no,
• 1:08:57
  I'm happy with that. And I'm like, no, I'm not happy
• 1:08:59
  with that. I want to go again like.
• 1:09:00
  Yeah. Get the bill take like yeah.
• 1:09:03
  Yeah, you're 100% right II joke. It times.
• 1:09:07
  A lot of energy directors are you know, I'm Dennis Mound,
• 1:09:10
  three takes and we're done. Well, I'm just wrapping up on
• 1:09:14
  the third take. I got more in the tank.
• 1:09:17
  I got more to give you you know. So it comes down to the
• 1:09:20
  collaboration and the director, you know, it obviously, hey know
• 1:09:24
  that all my got Circle. That that oh yeah, great take.
• 1:09:28
  Hey, can we do it again? No, no, we're good.
• 1:09:31
  We're moving on. Yeah, but no, no, we're all
• 1:09:35
  right. So I kind of had to take in that
• 1:09:41
  short term not told you about earlier.
• 1:09:43
  And I felt like I think it was about five minutes in total and
• 1:09:49
  the beginning dialogue, but bear in mind, the whole thing's
• 1:09:51
  improvised that's awesome. The thing is like it started.
• 1:09:58
  Not very well bit awkward but then I fell into what we were
• 1:10:02
  doing and then it was good and I was like Andrew.
• 1:10:05
  Yeah, it's like can we do it again and then what?
• 1:10:08
  Yeah, we're talking with you again.
• 1:10:09
  We'll take him and then I kept asking and I kept asking and if
• 1:10:13
  we just never did it. So there's a take where half of
• 1:10:16
  its yeah and half of it's very good.
• 1:10:19
  So I don't know. But I mean, it's whatever that
• 1:10:22
  because the director is going to have their own vision and yeah,
• 1:10:25
  everyone. But I think for me Because it's
• 1:10:28
  like a product, isn't it? Everything that you do you know?
• 1:10:31
  Yeah you're gonna have bad takes but you don't want their only to
• 1:10:33
  be bad takes you want it to be like good stuff.
• 1:10:36
  So that it represents you well and you know, it works for the
• 1:10:40
  director to because you it's as you said, it's a collaborative
• 1:10:43
  effort. You want it to be the best that
• 1:10:45
  it can be and hopefully you have the director.
• 1:10:48
  That knows how to communicate, right?
• 1:10:50
  And you know, look you'll bring your own ideas.
• 1:10:54
  And if the director doesn't communicate what they want,
• 1:10:58
  you're going to go with watching your mind and how you broke, how
• 1:11:01
  you broke down the script and how you're going to do you, you
• 1:11:06
  know, and you know, when your huddle with the director and
• 1:11:10
  the, in the cinematographer afterwards, and like cool.
• 1:11:12
  So, what do you think all that? That's awesome.
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  That's amazing. That's all right.
• 1:11:17
  Well, you know. Hey, cool, you know what?
• 1:11:20
  That's out of that you hope that you have some collaboration.
• 1:11:24
  You understand what they're looking for and they can
• 1:11:27
  communicate that to you while on set.
• 1:11:30
  You know I mean if you leave actors to our own Wilds, you
• 1:11:35
  know, we're going to, we're going to keep going and we're
• 1:11:38
  never going to be happy me. The worst thing to do is to do a
• 1:11:41
  self tape. Audition at home, that's the
• 1:11:44
  worst thing because I know, you know, use the cell phone, set it
• 1:11:48
  up, got my studio, got my tripod and I would keep, I wouldn't be
• 1:11:53
  satisfied with the 20th, take. So I've got a rule to myself.
• 1:11:57
  I'm doing three takes I'm giving you three takes period.
• 1:12:02
  Excuse me, I'm doing three takes.
• 1:12:04
  I'm going to add it. Give you the third and that's it
• 1:12:06
  because I don't know what you're looking for.
• 1:12:09
  And you're going to, you're going to grab it within the
• 1:12:10
  first five, ten seconds. Anyway, so I've Got The Look and
• 1:12:15
  I'm not tripping over my tongue, you going to, you going to put
• 1:12:17
  me, but if you don't like me to purchase five, ten seconds
• 1:12:21
  you're gonna move on it, just like a real.
• 1:12:22
  It's like a Sizzle reel. Nobody has time to watch two
• 1:12:25
  minutes. They're going to capture the
• 1:12:27
  first 30 seconds and If you can, bang them up front and a 30
• 1:12:31
  seconds and while them they're going to book you.
• 1:12:34
  That's it. Great advice, thank you so much
• 1:12:37
  for this. You're welcome brother, you're
• 1:12:38
  welcome. Speaking of directors and
• 1:12:41
  directing obviously, as I mentioned at the beginning of
• 1:12:44
  the podcast, you're a director and producer.
• 1:12:47
  What can you tell us about these roles and the key things that
• 1:12:50
  you've learned through doing them?
• 1:12:52
  Sure, I was kind of Hoodwink to be an assistant director.
• 1:12:55
  I I don't you don't want me behind the camera you don't.
• 1:13:02
  It was a guys, I'm very Mandy of myself.
• 1:13:05
  Hmm, okay, I can't demand from someone else, what?
• 1:13:10
  I demand for myself. So I was asked to be a first ad
• 1:13:17
  many many, many times. And I said, no, no, no.
• 1:13:20
  And then a good friend of mine. Samantha Burton asked me,
• 1:13:23
  please, please, please, please. Please, please wait.
• 1:13:26
  We're such a great team, please. All right.
• 1:13:29
  All right. You're going to hate me once
• 1:13:31
  we're done. No, I never hate you.
• 1:13:33
  You're going to hate me. What you've done.
• 1:13:35
  So would you have a? Yeah, so we have a crew and cast
• 1:13:38
  meeting and I'm like, and every knows you, and they know you've
• 1:13:42
  been in the business 20, but, you know, whatever.
• 1:13:44
  And I'm like, look, you're going to hate me when I'm done.
• 1:13:49
  Oh, come on. Dennis, you're such a
• 1:13:50
  sweetheart. You not going to like me when
• 1:13:54
  we're done. You're not going to like me,
• 1:13:56
  like me, like me doing the process.
• 1:13:58
  You're not going to like me, but we're going to do a kick-ass
• 1:14:01
  movie. Now, I'm not the most technical
• 1:14:04
  guy, don't ask me one lens from another, okay, but I'll call the
• 1:14:09
  Cadence and one. I'm actually doing able to move
• 1:14:11
  things along. Time is money, moving along,
• 1:14:14
  moving along, don't BS around a lot.
• 1:14:16
  I'm able to work with the actors.
• 1:14:19
  And now it's my strong suit with this and they appreciated this,
• 1:14:22
  and so the producers, I'm able to block the scenes and help the
• 1:14:27
  actors with their decisions and how we're doing the scenes so
• 1:14:32
  mad. Very tactical working with the
• 1:14:34
  cinematographer Angles and stuff like that.
• 1:14:37
  So I'm dialoguing with the actors.
• 1:14:39
  I'm blocking the scene with the actors, as she's doing the
• 1:14:41
  technical piece, it was good. It was really good.
• 1:14:45
  I was really happy. Of course, no one.
• 1:14:49
  No one has spoken to me since I'm being facetious.
• 1:14:53
  You know, we walked away, hug hug kiss kiss, but I told
• 1:14:58
  everybody go look, You're not gonna like me when I'm done.
• 1:15:02
  Producing is a whole different aspect because I wear my
• 1:15:07
  corporate hat, as a producer, let's say you write a script,
• 1:15:11
  right? So your eye corporate ties it.
• 1:15:15
  Okay, you wrote the script, it's your company.
• 1:15:18
  It's your vision. So you came up with the next new
• 1:15:22
  widget, what's a widget? It doesn't matter, but you have
• 1:15:25
  your vision to where you want to achieve and what you want to
• 1:15:28
  take your widget. Hire me as your CEO as your
• 1:15:33
  producer to achieve your vision. I hire the cinematographer, my
• 1:15:40
  VP of technology. I hire the casting director, my
• 1:15:44
  VP of sales. I corporatize it because I can
• 1:15:49
  understand it and people can understand it and that's how I
• 1:15:54
  do it. And I'm a proactive
• 1:15:56
  Communicator. I expect.
• 1:15:58
  I expect, I expect and that's why people like working with me
• 1:16:02
  from a producing perspective because even the director, I'm
• 1:16:06
  of Able to, you 24/7, if there's a spark of something that could
• 1:16:11
  go up in a big flame call me with the spark, don't call me
• 1:16:15
  when something's already a big Blaze because then, it's too
• 1:16:18
  late. And oh, by the way, you're
• 1:16:19
  fired, okay, call me when there's a spark, would deal with
• 1:16:23
  it will communicate, we'll figure it out and for some
• 1:16:28
  reason, I'm calm, cool and collected Collective under
• 1:16:31
  stress. I breathe.
• 1:16:34
  I talks Leo, slower and deep and I just I can figure things out.
• 1:16:39
  I don't get all emotional. Oh my God, The Skys Falling.
• 1:16:41
  I can keep it together and that you know, that's why I enjoyed
• 1:16:46
  producing. I just I really do.
• 1:16:49
  I can put together the Dream Team, I can get the job done.
• 1:16:54
  I expect everyone to communicate with me, you know, if there's
• 1:16:59
  something wrong craft Services, you know?
• 1:17:01
  I mean don't bother me with the Yeah, but I want to know
• 1:17:04
  everything that's going on. I'm not a drama queen.
• 1:17:08
  I don't expect drama and my stats but I expect if there's an
• 1:17:11
  issue that we're going to communicate and we're going to
• 1:17:14
  solve it right then and there every evening I do a conference
• 1:17:16
  call with the executive team director unit production
• 1:17:21
  manager. Cinematographer okay.
• 1:17:24
  What went right? What went wrong.
• 1:17:26
  What are we doing tomorrow? What do we need to change?
• 1:17:28
  What are we doing? So I Foster and I push
• 1:17:31
  communication. Thank you for sharing.
• 1:17:35
  I appreciate it. You're welcome.
• 1:17:37
  You're welcome. Speaking of Being on sets.
• 1:17:43
  What's the most kind of unprofessional thing you've
• 1:17:47
  witnessed on a set? Now, I'm sure you've seen a lot
• 1:17:51
  of things. Obviously, sort of mentioned
• 1:17:52
  earlier that you've seen some things but like just in general
• 1:17:56
  like what next question? Okay, no I mean you know, you
• 1:18:03
  know, I mean so you've got human nature, right?
• 1:18:07
  You've got beautiful man, beautiful women.
• 1:18:10
  You got long days, you know, you might, you might have different
• 1:18:14
  scenes, you might have a romantic scene, you might have,
• 1:18:20
  you know, a fight scene, you have everything across the
• 1:18:25
  board. I mean, think about it.
• 1:18:27
  You get, you get a bunch of human beings together.
• 1:18:30
  You put them in a stressful situation.
• 1:18:33
  Things happen, things happen, things happen, good things,
• 1:18:36
  happen, bad things happen, I was told I was told about this one
• 1:18:45
  movie that I wasn't on and I'm certainly not going to give you
• 1:18:48
  any names and stuff like that. That's fine.
• 1:18:50
  I don't expect the one of the principal actors was smitten
• 1:18:56
  with one of these x, one of the extra actors and it was it was
• 1:19:02
  well known. Known and to find out other
• 1:19:04
  people or doing other things. And look it's you do what you
• 1:19:09
  need to do. I home I to judge.
• 1:19:13
  Okay. I think I'm I think I'm known as
• 1:19:17
  a professional now. Does everybody love me?
• 1:19:22
  I would, I would hope so, I wish I would dream but reality is
• 1:19:26
  reality. I'm sure they're just as many
• 1:19:28
  people that don't like me as people that love me.
• 1:19:32
  But you know, you put a bunch of humans together.
• 1:19:36
  Everybody has their own ego in a stressful situation, what's
• 1:19:40
  going to happen? Well, life's going to happen.
• 1:19:42
  So it it is what it is. I think I like that.
• 1:19:47
  You like that answer. I got thing.
• 1:19:50
  Now I can see what I can see where you're going with it and
• 1:19:53
  it makes me beg another question.
• 1:19:55
  Actually, what's your kind of thoughts on romances occurring
• 1:20:01
  on set? Because it's Quite common thing.
• 1:20:03
  Like, for example, the Spider-Man movies are really big
• 1:20:07
  at the moment and I believe, every single with every single
• 1:20:14
  different cast, the two main actors hooked up during the
• 1:20:17
  process, which it like it logically makes sense.
• 1:20:19
  You know, spend enough time working with someone
• 1:20:23
  particularly intimate fashion and you're supposed to be
• 1:20:25
  playing an on-screen romance, you know, it's not that much of
• 1:20:28
  a leap to expect it to happen in real life.
• 1:20:32
  Always what are you asking me? What do you ask?
• 1:20:34
  So the question is question, the question is what are your
• 1:20:38
  thoughts on that? Because with the previous answer
• 1:20:40
  you kind of implied that you know to put it simply.
• 1:20:45
  It's a bad idea to get romantically involved with
• 1:20:48
  people and set which I would agree with.
• 1:20:50
  I kind of think of the same principle of any workplace,
• 1:20:54
  which is you know, just just don't date people.
• 1:20:58
  They work with like just keep it professional.
• 1:21:01
  Well, we have a saying in In the states and Tony Soprano.
• 1:21:05
  James Gandolfini said it best on one of the episodes and excuse,
• 1:21:08
  my French, it's really not French.
• 1:21:11
  But excuse my language, you don't shit where you eat Okay,
• 1:21:16
  you knew that was coming, you tons, you know, that was coming.
• 1:21:20
  So the funny thing was that was the first thing I thought in my
• 1:21:23
  head before I said what I said and then you just said it
• 1:21:25
  anyway. So my apologies to your audience
• 1:21:29
  that's when, you know you've got to be professional.
• 1:21:31
  I mean You know, is their workplace romance to mean?
• 1:21:35
  Yeah, we just heard about CNN, right?
• 1:21:37
  Jeff Zucker you know the things happen, things happen in today's
• 1:21:42
  in today's culture today's day and age you've got to be able to
• 1:21:47
  separate this from that. You know.
• 1:21:48
  Have I had romantic scenes have ahead.
• 1:21:51
  Love scenes. Yeah, you try to communicate
• 1:21:55
  with your fellow actor? But at the end of the day, you
• 1:21:59
  know, you your hug you high-five and you go home.
• 1:22:03
  All right, cut, we're wrapped for the day.
• 1:22:06
  You know, is it? Takes discipline, really?
• 1:22:11
  I mean, you know, did Halle Berry and Billy Bob Thornton
• 1:22:15
  hook up after a Monster's Ball? I don't know.
• 1:22:22
  I put that was a pretty hot steamy.
• 1:22:25
  Thing scenes, I suppose it depends how easily you're able
• 1:22:29
  to detach yourself. I mean for you you mentioned
• 1:22:33
  that you're a method actor. New when you have to do those
• 1:22:35
  scenes, are you tapping into like your real life romances?
• 1:22:39
  Are you thinking about that and trying to put it into that?
• 1:22:43
  Or are you trying to feel some sort of chemistry from this
• 1:22:46
  person and just make that happen?
• 1:22:47
  Like how do you communicate? A fake emotion.
• 1:22:52
  When you're drawing it from something that's real.
• 1:22:55
  If you saw them Zone, that's a great question.
• 1:23:07
  You know, I seen with this with this actress and we discussed it
• 1:23:15
  prior to we hunted with the director we discussed it.
• 1:23:18
  You know what angles are you going to take?
• 1:23:20
  What are you expecting to see? What do you expect to see?
• 1:23:24
  Okay and then you talk to the fellow actor, you know, lets you
• 1:23:29
  know, we're not going to This. But you know, what are you
• 1:23:32
  thinking? What do you see the huntress?
• 1:23:36
  I had kind of an intimate scene. You know, you communicate what
• 1:23:40
  you comfortable with? What are you comfortable with?
• 1:23:42
  What are we going to do? It's a closed set, you know,
• 1:23:45
  just different things like that. You just communicate, you know,
• 1:23:49
  am I going to tell you that? I'm channeling?
• 1:23:51
  The love of my life into this actress and I'm you know, put it
• 1:23:55
  is smoothing and doing no. But I'm in the moment, you know?
• 1:24:03
  And I am a method actor and for that moment, you know, back back
• 1:24:08
  with the other movie I told you about earlier.
• 1:24:12
  You know, I would I didn't want to date the woman that I was
• 1:24:16
  acting with and, you know, I mean, I guess she was kind of
• 1:24:19
  between things, and really thought I was into her and stuff
• 1:24:22
  like that. And I'm like, well, you know no,
• 1:24:24
  I'm an actor. Yeah, it's me and you shake my
• 1:24:27
  hand. I'm out.
• 1:24:29
  You know you know can you call me?
• 1:24:31
  What are you doing? I'm like going home to my
• 1:24:34
  girlfriend. I mean that's you know already I
• 1:24:38
  didn't know. Well no because I'm an actor and
• 1:24:40
  I'm just here working. Is it is it difficult?
• 1:24:46
  We'll have, you had difficulty with your partner's like when
• 1:24:49
  you have to do those scenes, you know, I'm sure you get this
• 1:24:52
  question a lot but like like how do you communicate that to
• 1:24:56
  someone who's not a fellow actor you know?
• 1:24:59
  Sure. How do you do that?
• 1:25:00
  Well, you you hope that your partner understands that it is
• 1:25:05
  acting and there are certain things that you don't do, but,
• 1:25:10
  you know, I've heard, you know, certain Partners will say, you
• 1:25:13
  will not do this, you will not do that.
• 1:25:15
  All right? Well, that kind of limits what
• 1:25:17
  you can and can't do, you know, kind of limit your roles and and
• 1:25:21
  stuff like that, but you've got to understand its end of the
• 1:25:24
  day. It's only acting, you know, did
• 1:25:27
  I have to kiss that person? Yeah, well I don't I'm not
• 1:25:31
  leaving there. You know, panning for that
• 1:25:34
  person was there an intimate scene.
• 1:25:37
  Sure, you know. It was done with a intimacy
• 1:25:42
  coordinator, okay? Onset, there are certain things
• 1:25:47
  to prevent certain things. And you know what I've done with
• 1:25:51
  with my partner, we read the script 10 12 times.
• 1:25:56
  And, you know, for this one scene, she actually helped me
• 1:26:01
  kind of wax. And, you know, make sure there
• 1:26:04
  wasn't, you know, different hair sticking out of different places
• 1:26:09
  that really They wouldn't look all that good on camera.
• 1:26:17
  I'm going to go into that. No, I appreciate that.
• 1:26:19
  So thank you very much but you know it you know I'm not looking
• 1:26:24
  to simplify it and make it minutiae because Yeah.
• 1:26:30
  I mean this ends and Daya is dating Tom Holland & Holland.
• 1:26:35
  Beautiful couple. Hmm.
• 1:26:37
  She's the Kick-Ass actress actress.
• 1:26:38
  I was just watching you for you last night and I'm a big Dune
• 1:26:42
  fan. So I'm excited about her him.
• 1:26:45
  I haven't seen this other movie yet.
• 1:26:46
  I did see Spider-Man. I was really excited about that.
• 1:26:49
  Hmm. So I'm going to probably see his
• 1:26:51
  other movie this week in Uncharted, I think.
• 1:26:55
  Yeah. So it's not right.
• 1:26:57
  So, I'll see that this week in. Hey.
• 1:26:59
  They're great kids, their kids, you know.
• 1:27:03
  So outside of that I mean more power to them.
• 1:27:07
  Yeah. I think I do think it's
• 1:27:10
  something you can make work. I just think it's generally
• 1:27:15
  speaking. It's not a good idea.
• 1:27:17
  Certainly. When you're making the project
• 1:27:20
  you're trying to make the project because okay, let's say
• 1:27:23
  you know you're doing a movie for like three months Chand you
• 1:27:27
  know you and the lead actress. Start getting into it in the
• 1:27:31
  first couple of weeks or the first month.
• 1:27:33
  I mean, you still got two months filming and oh, would you know
• 1:27:37
  what? It actually doesn't even matter
• 1:27:38
  about the filming you've still got a dual, the Press afterwards
• 1:27:43
  and everything. And like you don't want to like
• 1:27:46
  Fallout and then, you know, you have to awkwardly be there with
• 1:27:49
  your ex-partner promote this thing together and like you
• 1:27:52
  can't stand the sight of each other.
• 1:27:53
  Like, that's not great acting acting and being vulnerable in
• 1:27:57
  front of someone is intimate enough.
• 1:27:59
  Hmm. Then being intimate.
• 1:28:03
  You know, I had, I've had a bunch of Lifestyle commercials
• 1:28:07
  and I did talent and JC Anthony was Talan and I come to him
• 1:28:16
  because I'm shot and any change of wardrobe and stuff like that,
• 1:28:19
  and Talon JC, and I had a past relationship in this movie.
• 1:28:24
  So I love him. Dearly as a good friend II made
• 1:28:28
  him, squirm, I made him shrink in one of these scenes.
• 1:28:33
  Grab his hand and a poem close to me and I looked deep into his
• 1:28:36
  eyes and I forget exactly what I say.
• 1:28:39
  But I'm looking at this guy is looking up at me.
• 1:28:41
  He's like, he's, he's squirming and like I got you, you know, I
• 1:28:47
  got you and it's just acting isn't man enough.
• 1:28:54
  To worry about any other level of intimacy.
• 1:28:57
  Now, I just speak for me. You might have somebody on next
• 1:29:01
  week's like oh yeah. Hey more power, T, it's an
• 1:29:05
  individual thing. I'd rather have that
• 1:29:09
  relationship that friendship then.
• 1:29:13
  Screw it all up. That makes sense.
• 1:29:17
  No I agree and I think it speaks to what you were saying earlier
• 1:29:20
  about Connections in the importance of.
• 1:29:21
  Yeah I think it's just Really good to keep people's
• 1:29:25
  connections. Have good working relationships,
• 1:29:28
  obviously, as you said before, you know, small world and the
• 1:29:31
  acting world. So, you might end up acting with
• 1:29:33
  these people in a movie way down the line, you know, the get
• 1:29:36
  this. Yeah, it stands to reason to
• 1:29:39
  maintain good relations in that regard.
• 1:29:41
  Keep it? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:29:42
  And you know, as I said earlier to one project, begats another
• 1:29:46
  project so you don't know, you don't want someone out there.
• 1:29:51
  Talking and thinking, negatively of you, there's enough of that
• 1:29:55
  out there as it is. You don't want someone in your
• 1:29:57
  industry, I get calls all the time.
• 1:30:01
  Hey, Dennis, you worked with John Smith.
• 1:30:03
  You worked with Joan Smith, you know, I can you give us a
• 1:30:06
  recommendation. Oh, okay, yeah, and you know,
• 1:30:09
  like, like I'll get a text message for our server or a DM
• 1:30:12
  and unlike call me because I'm like going to put something in
• 1:30:15
  writing, it's call me. So they'll call me up.
• 1:30:18
  And first question, I ask is why Well, we've seen you work for
• 1:30:23
  them. I've seen your credits and you
• 1:30:25
  know, I really respect you. We work together, love your work
• 1:30:27
  etc, etc. Can you tell me about working
• 1:30:30
  with John Smith? Oh man, I love John Great
• 1:30:35
  Communicator, very creative, always brought energy, always
• 1:30:39
  prepared, edify edify edify. Well, what do you think about
• 1:30:44
  Johnny Jones? I never work with him again.
• 1:30:49
  Well, can you elaborate on that? No, I'm not going to elaborate
• 1:30:52
  on that. Hmm.
• 1:30:57
  And that again is from my corporate days.
• 1:31:01
  Yeah. Because from a corporate
• 1:31:03
  perspective, if I, you know, you call me up.
• 1:31:06
  Yeah. That Christian Reeve guy.
• 1:31:07
  What a piece of oh my God you know he made me.
• 1:31:10
  Wait how long in the fucking zoomed?
• 1:31:14
  That's a lot of straight news. I don't do it, is fake news and
• 1:31:26
  again back in the corporate days, you couldn't, if you gave
• 1:31:30
  someone a bad review, that could be used against you.
• 1:31:33
  So I'd rather just say, hey, I love Christian, I want to be on
• 1:31:37
  a show, again, he's a great guy, very accommodating, the
• 1:31:41
  questions were great. He kept me, it was just a Energy
• 1:31:45
  stuff like that. Alright, this one podcast and
• 1:31:48
  the guy asked me questions. I told you earlier.
• 1:31:50
  I'm like, yeah, we're done. Yeah, next question.
• 1:31:54
  We're done. So, yeah, I think it's not just
• 1:31:59
  with acting any kind of business.
• 1:32:01
  It's always important to To not speak negatively of people or
• 1:32:09
  companies or Etc. And I think this is a lesson.
• 1:32:13
  I had to learn. We all.
• 1:32:15
  Did we all put her foot in her mouth?
• 1:32:17
  Yeah, but I just think it's like one of those things that you
• 1:32:20
  like, I've had bad experiences, certain companies for example,
• 1:32:24
  but they also gave me a lot as well.
• 1:32:27
  And I never meet. I never named them.
• 1:32:30
  Because, I mean, yeah, I'm looking to get sued, that's
• 1:32:33
  number one number two, because it wasn't all bad either.
• 1:32:37
  Yeah. But I think it just makes you
• 1:32:39
  look bad and unprofessional. If you're seen saying negative
• 1:32:44
  things about people or whatever. And I think what you said is a
• 1:32:47
  good response, like if you're absolutely pressed for to give a
• 1:32:51
  response, you say what you said, like I will not work with this
• 1:32:54
  person again and we will leave it at that and and that because
• 1:32:58
  you don't have to that's the thing.
• 1:32:59
  You don't have to. There's no there's nothing
• 1:33:01
  forcing you to have to say something that's purely a
• 1:33:04
  decision and I'm not going to put myself in a libel position,
• 1:33:08
  you know, if you know me or at least see my work you know I
• 1:33:11
  love to work and for me to say I'll never work with that person
• 1:33:15
  again hmm that should speak volumes and look do people say
• 1:33:19
  that about me? I'm sure there's got to be
• 1:33:22
  somebody out there, but that's okay.
• 1:33:24
  I think I'm, I think I'm pretty decent what I do.
• 1:33:28
  I think I'm pretty Select it, what I do.
• 1:33:30
  And I, you know, I think I'm pretty humble with.
• 1:33:33
  What I do. Do, we have an ego?
• 1:33:35
  We all have an eagle but Christian I'm working, you know,
• 1:33:38
  I think that's really something that tells me something with
• 1:33:42
  with reputation and what people say about you.
• 1:33:45
  I mean, yeah, I mean you could be Mother Teresa and people
• 1:33:47
  still badmouth you so it doesn't matter what you do.
• 1:33:50
  That's number one, number two, I mean, I upgraded allergy that's
• 1:33:55
  funny. It's true though, that's funny.
• 1:33:56
  Yeah. But I think the majority of the
• 1:33:58
  majority of people are Saying good things about you or neutral
• 1:34:01
  things, then you'll probably. All right, you know, I mean,
• 1:34:03
  you're always going to have a few people that are going to say
• 1:34:05
  bad, sure. You know, I was in a sinner
• 1:34:08
  right up in the LA Times, a review for the Mad Hatter is I
• 1:34:13
  this is about three years ago now and he'll Lena Hutchins was
• 1:34:16
  our cinematographer rest in peace, right?
• 1:34:20
  So now that what a tragedy but I'm heading to the gym and the
• 1:34:26
  review got attached to our IMDb. And now In the Masthead.
• 1:34:33
  And so I could get to the gym and I really am laughing.
• 1:34:35
  I'm laughing. Like, come here, you know, you
• 1:34:37
  got your buddies. Unlike I just got, I got written
• 1:34:39
  up in the LA Times. Like that's awesome.
• 1:34:41
  Was it's a well? It says, I suck you suck.
• 1:34:44
  They suck the movie sucks. Suck.
• 1:34:46
  Suck suck, suck, suck. And I'm laughing at like, what's
• 1:34:49
  so funny? I go, I never sucked so bad.
• 1:34:52
  Well, that's not good. I go.
• 1:34:54
  No, it's great. My name is in the LA Times.
• 1:34:56
  Yeah, awesome. I could suck all night long.
• 1:35:00
  My name is in the LA Times and they're like, Okay.
• 1:35:05
  It's like not understanding why I'm so excited, you know,
• 1:35:10
  because if the critics say you suck, it means you're going to
• 1:35:14
  get a Rotten Tomato High tomato number right and you're gonna
• 1:35:18
  have a cult following. So you just you just never know.
• 1:35:22
  It's just any publicity is good publicity.
• 1:35:24
  Yeah. People are talking about you,
• 1:35:26
  your living rent-free in their heads and you're getting, you
• 1:35:29
  get booked. That's the thing.
• 1:35:30
  That's the bizarre thing about it.
• 1:35:32
  I mean, just look at At that guy, those two guys that did the
• 1:35:35
  room. I mean like that, what car?
• 1:35:37
  Yeah. And it's brilliant.
• 1:35:40
  It's got cult status. As you said, I can.
• 1:35:42
  It's I mean that they've made so much money out of that and they
• 1:35:45
  continue to brilliant. You know, it's all about your
• 1:35:49
  attitude and Just everything with you know.
• 1:35:53
  Yeah. And you can't sit back, you
• 1:35:55
  know, advice for new actors. It look, you know, there's a lot
• 1:36:00
  of this, there's a lot of talk, right?
• 1:36:02
  Christian. Hey, I want you on my hundred
• 1:36:04
  million dollar project and we're going to start, we're going to
• 1:36:07
  do it in in Moldavia by the end of this year.
• 1:36:12
  All right? So you might be sitting back and
• 1:36:14
  saying Ching, Hai. I got the lead and what happens?
• 1:36:20
  October comes. Yes, where's the letter of
• 1:36:22
  intent? Where's the script?
• 1:36:23
  December comes. Oh yeah, we're going to put it
• 1:36:26
  off. You got to keep yourself the
• 1:36:29
  best thing you can do for any production that you're in any
• 1:36:33
  pre-production. Any few for future production is
• 1:36:35
  keep yourself busy. Why?
• 1:36:38
  As you're building your brand we discussed earlier your brand is
• 1:36:42
  worth that much more. Okay, unlawful duties, 2 million
• 1:36:46
  views. I'm not sitting around in my, on
• 1:36:48
  my hands, I'm out there working, so my value right to my brand
• 1:36:56
  and to that production goes up exponentially where a lot of
• 1:36:59
  people are going to our sit back and just wait.
• 1:37:02
  Now this game a hustle, it's a game of hustle.
• 1:37:07
  One thing that fascinates me about this industry as well,
• 1:37:09
  like obviously coming at it from a New Comers perspective but
• 1:37:12
  also just Looking in at, for example, you know, if you
• 1:37:16
  release it, if you record a movie, it will be released the
• 1:37:18
  following year. That's pretty common, you know,
• 1:37:20
  because he thinks. Yeah, maybe.
• 1:37:22
  But generally speaking, that's how long it takes.
• 1:37:28
  But, but like, for example, I'm the same as you, I'm constantly,
• 1:37:32
  hustling doing things like appearing on other people's
• 1:37:34
  shows. Do my own podcast appearing in
• 1:37:37
  enacting things. Sometimes I forget about stuff
• 1:37:40
  I've done because it's been so long since Yeah it comes out but
• 1:37:44
  that's the thing. It's like the actor's life is
• 1:37:47
  you're constantly and in that it's like what's next?
• 1:37:50
  Like okay cut we're done on to the next thing.
• 1:37:53
  You're only as good. You're only as good as what's
• 1:37:56
  next. It's all about the next.
• 1:37:58
  It's all about the next, okay? You gotta paint on this, you
• 1:38:02
  know, you're going to do the red carpet in a year, two years.
• 1:38:06
  What's next? You know, and that's what it
• 1:38:08
  comes down to what what is, what is next and that's and And
• 1:38:13
  you're right. So I mean if you look at kind of
• 1:38:17
  stuff that I'm booking and what I'm doing and what I'm looking
• 1:38:19
  at, I'm going to show you is looking at the future, you know?
• 1:38:22
  Okay. Are we booked out for this
• 1:38:24
  quarter? Are we booked out for next
• 1:38:26
  quarter? What are we doing?
• 1:38:28
  And that's what it comes down to and that's the important stuff
• 1:38:32
  because you're only as important as the next you could do
• 1:38:35
  something and not do something again for years.
• 1:38:38
  But what's your value to that project?
• 1:38:41
  Where your value is nothing because you make You may be a
• 1:38:43
  one-hit wonder. You know what do you got going
• 1:38:48
  on? You know, if you look at my
• 1:38:50
  IMDb, I've got a ton of stuff in pre-production.
• 1:38:53
  Okay. You know, I've got, I might have
• 1:38:56
  a letter of intent here and there.
• 1:38:59
  But when is it going to book one?
• 1:39:00
  Is it going to do? I tell Rebecca and I kind of
• 1:39:03
  strategize and we talked every day about.
• 1:39:06
  Well when is this project going to come up?
• 1:39:08
  Well you know there's no date to it.
• 1:39:10
  All right well we're not going to sit around and let it occupy
• 1:39:13
  space in my mind. Yeah.
• 1:39:15
  Well It on the shelf and we'll go to what's on the docket you
• 1:39:20
  know because because think about it.
• 1:39:22
  If I've got something coming up next month.
• 1:39:26
  Am I going to work on that script?
• 1:39:27
  Now it's signed we've got the contract with good to go.
• 1:39:32
  Or am I going to read something that doesn't even have a date to
• 1:39:35
  it? We don't even have a letter of
• 1:39:37
  intent. You know what?
• 1:39:39
  Little bit. I got left.
• 1:39:41
  I gotta occupy which stuff that I'm doing now.
• 1:39:46
  Does that make sense? I mean, I'm very I try to be
• 1:39:49
  very pragmatic, you know, if I'm auditioning for something of
• 1:39:52
  course, from all over, if I'm doing a table read, of course,
• 1:39:54
  I'm all over it. If there's no date, put to it.
• 1:39:59
  I'm not going to memorize your script.
• 1:40:02
  Yeah, why would you ask me to? That's not fair.
• 1:40:06
  When I may have another project coming up.
• 1:40:09
  I have a board, I'm very And I've all my projects written
• 1:40:13
  down and stuff like that going on.
• 1:40:15
  So I'm not going to memorize your script when there's no
• 1:40:23
  contract is no dates. There's nothing going on.
• 1:40:26
  That's just not fair to even ask.
• 1:40:28
  Now, I don't speak for everyone. Of course, I just speak for me
• 1:40:32
  and my limitations. I've got to worry about the
• 1:40:36
  business at hand. Hmm.
• 1:40:38
  And and that's that's what I need to focus on.
• 1:40:41
  You know, does that make sense at all?
• 1:40:43
  Yeah, yeah, no, no. I think the same way, you know,
• 1:40:47
  I've had auditions and stuff that I've been talking about
• 1:40:52
  directors with recently and, you know, they'll put some dates my
• 1:40:56
  way and I look and see if it's available, but I don't put it in
• 1:41:00
  my calendar until I agree, but we've agreed that are they,
• 1:41:03
  here's the role and I'm like, yeah.
• 1:41:04
  Except that's when I put it in and now that's that's happening.
• 1:41:08
  Yeah, but until we get the contract, you get the contract,
• 1:41:11
  you get it half up front that now you know, it's legit.
• 1:41:14
  So I decided that you don't know if it's legit or not.
• 1:41:17
  So why would I you know why would I you know, put why would
• 1:41:23
  I waste my time? You know, if you're building a
• 1:41:27
  house, right? You contract me to build a
• 1:41:29
  house. You gave me no money upfront.
• 1:41:33
  You gave me. No, blueprints, you give me no
• 1:41:35
  day and I start digging a ditch for the foundation.
• 1:41:39
  Well, what am I doing? You got to be very practical at
• 1:41:44
  this stuff because that I mean and again you might get 10
• 1:41:48
  different actors with 10 different opinions but that's
• 1:41:50
  just I know my strengths and know my weaknesses which my
• 1:41:54
  weaknesses are many and I just have to act accordingly.
• 1:42:00
  What's been the most memorable experience of your acting
• 1:42:03
  career? So far, sure.
• 1:42:05
  You know, it's like asking asking Tom, Brady, you know, a
• 1:42:10
  true football or not a soccer player footballer, just what his
• 1:42:14
  best Super Bowl was, you know, Christian every, every time
• 1:42:18
  you're on set. It's so memorable.
• 1:42:20
  Every time you're on set, and you have so many good
• 1:42:25
  experiences, every set is memorable.
• 1:42:28
  There isn't one. And that really sticks out.
• 1:42:31
  It's just every time you're on set, I have such a great time
• 1:42:35
  and really enjoy everything that I've been a part of sure a
• 1:42:39
  feature, a commercial producing acting every aspect of it.
• 1:42:44
  I just enjoy it and everything. Everything is memorable.
• 1:42:47
  Everything's member while I try to keep them momento from every
• 1:42:51
  little thing that I've been in either assigned script either
• 1:42:55
  cover page signed by The Ensemble or, you know, a little
• 1:42:59
  A little badge. I'm looking, I got masks from
• 1:43:02
  different things, you know it all means a lot and everything
• 1:43:05
  has been a very unique, very humbling, very great experience.
• 1:43:10
  Some reason, thanks for sharing my pleasure.
• 1:43:14
  This is my favorite question to ask.
• 1:43:16
  I can't wait to ask you. What's the biggest life lesson
• 1:43:20
  you've learned so far? In my life or inactive in your
• 1:43:26
  life. You have another eight hours to
• 1:43:31
  go and I'll go time, baby. I'm glad you do.
• 1:43:35
  I don't, I don't, you know, live every day like it's your last
• 1:43:43
  Wow, gonna get for Klimt. you know you can't you can't let too
• 1:43:49
  much time, you can't waste too much time you can't let too many
• 1:43:53
  days slip by You don't you can't you got to live each day.
• 1:44:00
  You got to push the ball forward each day.
• 1:44:02
  You've got to have cherish that relationships.
• 1:44:05
  You have do the best you can and try to try to make a positive
• 1:44:12
  impact in everybody. You Come and touch with, you
• 1:44:16
  know, sorry, no, I don't apologize.
• 1:44:20
  You just have to Life's too short.
• 1:44:23
  And again, I don't consider myself an enlightened being by
• 1:44:25
  any means. I just know, I'm here for a
• 1:44:27
  short period of time, And a lot of people can't see the forest
• 1:44:31
  through the trees, a lot of people can't.
• 1:44:35
  So You know, from a personal perspective which I don't get, I
• 1:44:41
  don't get personal. You've got to understand what
• 1:44:46
  you doing today. Has generational implications
• 1:44:51
  Generational implications. And if you can't understand that
• 1:44:58
  you need to whether you have children, whether you're
• 1:45:02
  married, regardless of where you are, everything you do has
• 1:45:08
  generational consequences. and before you make a move, before
• 1:45:15
  you open your mouth because the tongue is mightier than the
• 1:45:19
  sword, you've got to think that through and you really have to
• 1:45:25
  be an adult and think about what you're going to say when you're
• 1:45:29
  going to say it, you know, we all say horrible things, when we
• 1:45:33
  argue Unfortunately, you know, and I've been cut down a lot by
• 1:45:41
  people's words, and I've never blessed with many things, but
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  never are sharp talk. And, you know, you just have to,
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  you have to understand that. And with what you doing today,
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  how does it impact tomorrow, you know, from either a either, a
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  family Dynamic, a personal Dynamic, professional dynamic.
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  How is what you're doing today, you know, whether you're you may
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  be trying to create an example. Whether you're trying you,
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  whether you're bad-mouthing, your ex-spouse, whatever that
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  might be. You know, what are you doing?
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  You know, my father was very Very loving.
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  Never had a bad word for anyone. Never had it backwards for a
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  always sent out birthday card. So he said money in the people
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  always, always had a good call, don't mess with them, don't mess
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  with them. But you know, I I learned early
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  on and I'm very and I learned if I, if I send you a birthday
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  card, And now to get one in return, I'm not sending you
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  another one. if I send you a Christmas card, Because what
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  does it take to send and send out a card?
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  But to card, let's say cards, five bucks with stamp, another
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  two bucks. But outside of the intrinsic
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  cost. What value is that buying you?
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  What values that bind you saying?
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  Sending out a thank you card going on Facebook and saying hey
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  man thank you so much. Chris did I love the time?
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  We had together. Thank you so much.
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  You're a rockstar. I look forward to working with
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  you again. What does that buy?
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  It buys you What's the word I'm looking for?
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  It's just it just penetrates here and stays in here and
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  penetrates here. You have no.
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  That's it. Forgiveness.
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  Isn't for the person you're forgiving.
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  It's for you and a quicker you can forgive and move on the
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  better off. You're going to be.
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  That doesn't mean the person that has wronged you or has
• 1:48:11
  perceived that they've been wronged is going to let it go.
• 1:48:17
  The toughest thing in this life is O'er the most.
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  Damning thing in this life is holding hatred.
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  Towards someone like giving a give you a thousand foot view,
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  I'll give you 1,000, for example, because I know the
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  persons not going to watch this and person doesn't follow me.
• 1:48:39
  People, I know got divorced and they haven't seen each other for
• 1:48:44
  years, but person pulls up in his utility truck.
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  And happens to see you and comes out of his of the utility truck
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  and false to their knees and starts apologizing profusely.
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  Now, 10 years after the offense has been done, so this person's
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  been carrying water. Tried sadness fear, you've
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  occupied a place in this person's mind for quite some
• 1:49:16
  time. And that a person happens to see
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  you in a person is pouring, their heart out apologizing.
• 1:49:23
  Well, you can do one at you. Things of that moment, you can
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  basically keep jamming that person and and say something
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  that would continue That person or you can be forgiving.
• 1:49:39
  It's 10 years and who is forgiveness for?
• 1:49:44
  It's not for the person that drop to their knees and is
• 1:49:46
  apologizing, forgiveness is for the person giving it.
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  So if someone is carrying water and carrying the weight of that
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  guilt for 10 years, that's a long time. 24 hours is a long
• 1:50:00
  time, okay? And for you not to give that
• 1:50:04
  forgiveness and trusting, it talks more of the person.
• 1:50:12
  It takes a lot for someone to admit they're wrong and to
• 1:50:14
  forgive to begin with. But you receiving the apology
• 1:50:20
  after such a prolonged period of time and you not acknowledging
• 1:50:25
  it or absolving the person of that guilt in that incident,
• 1:50:34
  speak speaks volumes of you doesn't speak volumes of the
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  person, apologizing speaks volumes of you.
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  It really does. So I try not to hold on to
• 1:50:48
  guilt. Trying to hold on to hatred.
• 1:50:51
  I try not to use the word hate. I try not to use the capital
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  where th I can f whore people, maybe hor, I can't hate people
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  but yeah, I mean stuff happens where you need to decide what
• 1:51:07
  you're going to do. My inner circle is really small,
• 1:51:12
  it's all look, maybe two fingers on one hand, That's okay.
• 1:51:17
  That's okay, there's security, and that there's a sense of
• 1:51:23
  safety and that And there's a sense of doing what you do.
• 1:51:28
  Joaquin. Phoenix was interviewed by
• 1:51:30
  Anderson. Cooper, I guess, two years ago
• 1:51:33
  now, or last year when he won the Oscar, two years of belief
• 1:51:37
  and they're walking in the Hollywood Hills and Anderson
• 1:51:40
  psyche. So what do you do at night?
• 1:51:41
  He's like, oh, I hang out with my friends and and he goes wait,
• 1:51:44
  do we really have to do this? Do I really have to answer that
• 1:51:47
  question? You know, do you really need to
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  go? You know I wake up at 6 a.m.
• 1:51:52
  like you don't meal. You really need to know that
• 1:51:54
  stuff you really So it's not that you want to be an enigma,
• 1:51:58
  you know, you work so hard to get popular and to get noticed
• 1:52:01
  and then you want to go back in your bubble.
• 1:52:04
  You know, the Persona that you might put out now, I love
• 1:52:08
  people. I think I'm very personable, but
• 1:52:10
  I'm also very proud, you know, I know a lot of people have a lot
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  of acquaintances. It's rare that I have.
• 1:52:18
  Good friends. Hmm.
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  And that's, you know, I'm the oldest of three and it's just It
• 1:52:27
  is what it is. I read something this morning
• 1:52:30
  that if somebody says it is what it is.
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  Be aware that person because they're dangerous.
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  It is what it is. I said I quite often so I guess
• 1:52:40
  I'm really dangerous. I mean look at look at Tom
• 1:52:43
  Hardy. Yeah Tom Hardy I heard he's up
• 1:52:46
  for James Bond. I heard Aegis albums up for
• 1:52:49
  James. Find out be phenomenal.
• 1:52:51
  People say James Hardy is a Tom Hardy.
• 1:52:53
  Excuse me, it's tough to work with never worked with them, I
• 1:52:56
  want to work with them, you read things, he's a loner, Yuri
• 1:53:01
  things can of Reeves is a loner, okay, who cares?
• 1:53:04
  Hmm. Who cares?
• 1:53:05
  They're not going to be on TMZ. You know, getting their groove
• 1:53:09
  on the club cares. They're human beings just like,
• 1:53:13
  just like you and I it's what you decide to do and how you
• 1:53:16
  decide to live your life, you know, Canna Reeves the generous
• 1:53:21
  man. You know what a, what a great
• 1:53:24
  guy would a generous man? You know, Tom Hardy.
• 1:53:27
  I'm sure you know it, sir. Tom Hardy got knighted or
• 1:53:30
  something, right? I think.
• 1:53:32
  Yeah, I think you got night at her home on you.
• 1:53:35
  You should know that. I know that better than you.
• 1:53:38
  Come on. I don't know why.
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  We don't know people over here. Sorry I got the so I got deep
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  with that. No, no, thank you so much.
• 1:53:49
  I mean, it's it's it's one of the reasons why Always ask these
• 1:53:53
  questions. Yeah, because I think that every
• 1:53:55
  human being has something to share something to offer and
• 1:54:02
  what you said about forgiveness as well, I really resonate with
• 1:54:05
  that, okay? You just gotta let it go.
• 1:54:10
  You gotta let it drift away because it just sits on you like
• 1:54:13
  a heavyweight, like, a dark cloud or something.
• 1:54:15
  It's either as you said than done.
• 1:54:18
  It's easier said that done. You literally have to look in
• 1:54:21
  the mirror and be retrospective and you have to have her certain
• 1:54:26
  meditation. Like, it's like, we're not,
• 1:54:28
  we're not perfect though. We never will be perfect.
• 1:54:30
  No, we won't. You know, like what you were
• 1:54:33
  saying before about. The person not accepting the
• 1:54:38
  apology. Like I think that that's The
• 1:54:43
  absolute worst thing. I mean obviously it depends on
• 1:54:45
  the person's done. Some things could be completely
• 1:54:48
  unforgivable us but pens, but in general, yeah.
• 1:54:52
  It's I think is a noble thing to accept apologies and to allow
• 1:55:00
  that person to move on and keep growing because you know that's
• 1:55:06
  what we're trying to do at the end of the day you know life is
• 1:55:10
  too short. Life is too short.
• 1:55:13
  I was eight blocks away from World Trade Center.
• 1:55:15
  It should have been two blocks away.
• 1:55:17
  Oh my Mercedes, four years ago, five years ago, caught on fire.
• 1:55:23
  So useless 10 seconds. It was fully What else happened?
• 1:55:29
  I was on a plane with Benjamin. Netanyahu coming home from San
• 1:55:32
  Diego or LAX. Excuse me.
• 1:55:35
  And I was on a plane with a an engine in Iraq.
• 1:55:39
  He engineer that was espousing hatred towards Israel.
• 1:55:44
  I'm In First Class Benjamin Netanyahu.
• 1:55:47
  We obviously know that name me and never a key engineer.
• 1:55:51
  All right, if we're going down in flames, this is it.
• 1:55:55
  So this Cats got a bunch of lives left obviously, and I'm
• 1:55:58
  here to make a difference. It's just it's just funny.
• 1:56:04
  It's just funny, you know, it, you need to be able to laugh.
• 1:56:09
  You need to be able to do what you do.
• 1:56:11
  I read my mission statement goals every morning, you know, I
• 1:56:14
  did before the show. And if I can make an impact, you
• 1:56:18
  know, through my art, you know, through my finances, through
• 1:56:22
  whatever it takes, life is good. Life is good.
• 1:56:25
  I've got two children if I can do something to build a legacy
• 1:56:31
  for them. You know, and they don't
• 1:56:34
  appreciate it. Now I do hope I can build
• 1:56:37
  something. I can leave it to them, leave it
• 1:56:39
  to the, to my grandkids and and make an impact, you know, dr.
• 1:56:43
  Stephen Covey, you know, to live to live to love to learn to
• 1:56:48
  leave a legacy. Amazing.
• 1:56:52
  As we draw things to a close for today.
• 1:56:54
  Do you have any upcoming projects or some final thoughts
• 1:56:57
  that you'd like to lay leave with our lessons?
• 1:56:58
  With? I've got a bunch of things going
• 1:57:01
  on. I mean, the Nostradamus Mission,
• 1:57:04
  it's a, it's a book written by Daniel Bergdorf, which is right
• 1:57:08
  now he's in Bucharest. So scary.
• 1:57:12
  And we're going to shoot in Rome this year, but with everything
• 1:57:15
  going on, you know, you guys in Europe, can't get your shit
• 1:57:18
  together. So we got to go, we got to stay
• 1:57:20
  in the states and I wish you'd figure stuff out, life could be
• 1:57:24
  easy, but we're going to shoot. We're going to shoot later this
• 1:57:27
  year and I'm in the mm in the Italians.
• 1:57:31
  Xacti Epi producer writer director.
• 1:57:34
  I've got a lead role in that and we're going to, we're probably
• 1:57:36
  going to start, I guess towards the end of the year.
• 1:57:39
  There's Just, you know, we've got a bunch of big projects that
• 1:57:43
  are secured. That'll lock down and like with
• 1:57:47
  the audition yesterday I've got stuff coming up.
• 1:57:50
  So there's just there's a lot going on and it's just really an
• 1:57:54
  exciting place to be and I got to take Christian, right?
• 1:57:56
  I know, you know, you're over the pond and I'm over here in
• 1:57:59
  the colonies if I can help anybody with anything, anything
• 1:58:03
  at all, you know, I'm all over Instagram, you know, I'm all
• 1:58:07
  over Facebook, YouTube, Twitter, Dennis Malin ma llen be more
• 1:58:13
  than happy to help everyone. I listened to a podcast and one
• 1:58:17
  of the founders, I'm going to screw this up.
• 1:58:20
  One of the founders from Starbucks gave out his cellphone
• 1:58:24
  number gave out his cell phone number and you said look he goes
• 1:58:28
  might take me a day or two to get back to you but here's a man
• 1:58:31
  worth oh I don't know. A few hundred million dollars
• 1:58:34
  more than me. My cell is 732-581-5328 94.
• 1:58:39
  For if I can help anybody with anything please, feel free to
• 1:58:43
  reach out and we'll go from there and please be nice.
• 1:58:48
  Follow me on always, looking to increase my Instagram, always
• 1:58:52
  looking to increase my YouTube, always looking to increase my
• 1:58:55
  Twitter and whatnot. And honestly, I hope I can make
• 1:58:59
  an impact on people's lives through my work and through
• 1:59:02
  helping them get to where they need to be.
• 1:59:05
  Amazing. Thank you so much for your time
• 1:59:10
  for my pleasure, all the amazing advice and everything that
• 1:59:13
  you've shared today, just a pleasure, I wish take a picture
• 1:59:17
  frame. X-Men from access, you know, if
• 1:59:23
  if you look at kind of where I come from and in my journey,
• 1:59:27
  it's been, it's been fun, it's been fine.
• 1:59:30
  So I got a lot more to do hopefully.
• 1:59:35
  And yeah, man, I appreciate you more than what, you know, I
• 1:59:38
  really appreciate you. Appreciate you your viewers and
• 1:59:42
  honestly, that's keep in touch and, you know, kind of grow from
• 1:59:45
  there. So, that makes sense.
• 1:59:47
  Absolutely, thank you so much. Much and to all the listeners of
• 1:59:50
  the Christian way podcast, as always be safe.
• 1:59:54
  Be well, and I'll see you in the next one.