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TRAVIS KELCE BREAKS SILENCE ON ‘CRAZY’ TAYLOR SWIFT WEDDING AS NICK REINER FACES NEW MURDER ALLEGATION AND OPRAH WINFREY DISTANCES HERSELF FROM DR. PHIL & DR. OZ’S POLITICS · Naughty But Nice with Rob Shuter

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  Speaker 2: What time is it, my friends? It is tea time.
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  Speaker 2: A really big and little bit of a petty story
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  Speaker 2: at the top of the show, which, as you know,
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  Speaker 2: are my favorite types of stories. So Travis Kelcey is
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  Speaker 2: breaking his silence about the quote crazy wedding with Taylor Swift.
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  Speaker 2: So who's doing interviews? He's back in the football game.
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  Speaker 2: I think I've got that right, the NFL, So they're
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  Speaker 2: gearing up. I guess to play some matches some games
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  Speaker 2: do forgive me. I don't know anything about sports, so
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying really hard here. However, they did a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a press conference. I get it. They've got
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  Speaker 2: to sell tickets, got to get people excited. What are
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  Speaker 2: they going to ask him about? Not if his quarter
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  Speaker 2: back end tight end is going to go up the
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  Speaker 2: left field. That's an example of thoughts that they're not
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  Speaker 2: going to ask him about the game. They're going to
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  Speaker 2: ask him about Taylor Swift. So they do ask him
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  Speaker 2: about the wedding, and he replied with something that I
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  Speaker 2: would not have liked had Bruce said this about awarding.
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  Speaker 2: It was quote a crazy night. Oh I'm not quite
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  Speaker 2: sure about that. That's what he said. And then he
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  Speaker 2: did the one to say it was the best night
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  Speaker 2: of my life. That's the right thing to say. Now,
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  Speaker 2: there's lots of headlines out there that he's talking about
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  Speaker 2: the wedding. Not exactly true, but he is mentioning you,
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  Speaker 2: or at least he's answering questions about it. Well, I
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  Speaker 2: know three people who are at the wedding who are
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  Speaker 2: not that happy and I don't know if this is
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  Speaker 2: right or wrong. This is going to be our whole
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  Speaker 2: question of the day. They're saying, we signed a non disclosius,
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  Speaker 2: we're not allowed to talk about it, and yet here
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  Speaker 2: he is doing a press conference talking about it. So
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  Speaker 2: does this mean now we can all talk about it
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  Speaker 2: or is it still a big secret? You know, You're
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  Speaker 2: got to cut them some grace here. It's their wedding,
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  Speaker 2: So Travis and Taylor want to talk about it. They're
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  Speaker 2: allowed to. It's their NDAs. But at the same time,
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  Speaker 2: there's something here, Mark, there is something. If I make
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  Speaker 2: everybody who comes to Botinos for a drink with me
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  Speaker 2: sign an NDA, and then I go on television the
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  Speaker 2: next morning and talk about the night, but you're not
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  Speaker 2: allowed to talk about it, there's something I get. Drinks
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  Speaker 2: at Botinos are not a wedding. I get it, But
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  Speaker 2: you game where I'm going. There is something here? What
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  Speaker 2: do you think there is?
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  Speaker 1: But I think the good news here is that he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really He speaks in soundbites right, like he has
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  Speaker 1: the wedding of the century and the only thing he
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  Speaker 1: could muster up was crazy Night, Best Night, Like he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't really have a lot going on there. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I think about him. I think Viva Las Vegas, Like
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  Speaker 1: what do they talk about when they go home? So
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  Speaker 1: Taylor probably wasn't worried that he was going to like
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  Speaker 1: spill specific details because I don't think he knows how
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  Speaker 1: to do that.
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  Speaker 2: You're saying he doesn't know how to talk, No, he doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: He it's two people who work in the entertainment business.
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  Speaker 2: He's kind of like a nightmare to interview because he
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  Speaker 2: might give you anything. Can you imagine being on a
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  Speaker 2: red carpet or sitting down an interviewing him. You're literally
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  Speaker 2: gonna get a SoundBite. He talks in soundbites. Yeah, not good?
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  Speaker 2: Like great, not good. What do you think about people
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  Speaker 2: who are a little bit not angry but they did
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  Speaker 2: have to jump through hoops to sign these NDAs? Do
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  Speaker 2: you think now that the NDA is vull, can we
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  Speaker 2: talk about it?
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  Speaker 1: I just don't know that I really care At this point,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the wedding is it's We've moved past this.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a month plus. You know, people live in
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  Speaker 1: New York like us, were inconvenience by the You know,
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  Speaker 1: either you tell us about it or I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 1: move on with my lunch.
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  Speaker 2: Is how I think that The only piece of this
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  Speaker 2: puzzle that I'm dying to know about is a how
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  Speaker 2: many drinks did Brad Pitt have? A? I do? I would?
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  Speaker 2: I do? I want to see a picture of her dress.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna look like sort of old fish
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  Speaker 2: in a white tuxedo. It's going to be very Saturday
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  Speaker 2: night fever, I think for him, but I think she
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  Speaker 2: might look incredible. I do want to see the picture, Tawn,
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  Speaker 2: if you're listening, sh don't tell us anything more. We
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  Speaker 2: don't care, but we would, we would like to see
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  Speaker 2: a picture. And if anybody was sitting next to Brad
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  Speaker 2: Pitt at the bar called me immediately, which brings us
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  Speaker 2: to our pole question of the day. Travis loose lips,
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  Speaker 2: sort of loose lips. He doesn't say very much. He does.
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  Speaker 2: He means your impression of him man is going to
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  Speaker 2: stick with me all day. So he's chatting about the wedding,
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  Speaker 2: not saying too much, but he is talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: Are the guests who signed NDAs? And I saying, well,
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  Speaker 2: can we talk about it that? What do you think
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  Speaker 2: should those guests who signed NDAs be allowed to talk
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  Speaker 2: about this wedding that Travis is. What do you think?
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  Speaker 2: what are you working on? All right?
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  Speaker 1: We're taking a love turn here. Rob Nick Reiner has
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  Speaker 1: been accused of laying in wait for his parents before
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  Speaker 1: their murder. Is very disturbing. So Nick Reiner is facing
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  Speaker 1: a new more serious allegation and the deaths of his parents,
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  Speaker 1: director Rob Reiner and Michelle Reiner. Now in a newly
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  Speaker 1: unsealed indictment, it alleges that thirty two year old lay
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  Speaker 1: in wait before his parents were fly step inside their
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  Speaker 1: La home in December of twenty twenty five. Now, the
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  Speaker 1: special circumstance allegation could make Yiner eligible for life without
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  Speaker 1: role or even the death penalty if convicted, and Reiner
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  Speaker 1: has pleaded not guilty and denies all the allegations.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think, oh Mark, There's more to this
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  Speaker 2: than we know, isn't there. We thought we knew everything
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  Speaker 2: about this. There's been so much publicity, so much talk
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  Speaker 2: about it, but now we're getting to see the real,
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  Speaker 2: real mechanics, the machinery of the law and what's in
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  Speaker 2: these indictments. And there is a shocking new allegation that
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  Speaker 2: he was waiting for them. Does that mean he was
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  Speaker 2: in the back garden waiting, Was he in the house
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  Speaker 2: waiting for them? Was he in the bedroom in the
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  Speaker 2: bathroom waiting for them to get to sleep before killing them?
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  Speaker 2: This is going to be, I'm told from my sources,
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  Speaker 2: absolutely excruciating, and the detail that they believe they have
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  Speaker 2: for the prosecution, believe they have details that are gonna
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  Speaker 2: be absolutely mind blowing. I didn't believe that this case
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  Speaker 2: could get any worse. I just didn't. Two people dead
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  Speaker 2: in their beds, two loving parents, and the Sun has
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  Speaker 2: been accused of killing them.
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  Speaker 1: That's bad.
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  Speaker 2: That's bad enough. Now finding out that he was waiting potentially,
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  Speaker 2: and that changes everything, Mark, because if you are waiting,
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  Speaker 2: it was premeditated. It wasn't spur of the moment. We
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  Speaker 2: all remember they had a huge fight at Conan O'Brien's party.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not making any excuses for this, absolutely not. But
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  Speaker 2: there's a difference between losing your temper, losing your mind
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  Speaker 2: and doing something horrific and planning it. And it looks
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  Speaker 2: here as if this was planned. Don't forget too Mark.
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  Speaker 2: After the murder, there's video footage of him in clean clothes.
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  Speaker 2: He must have changed out of the clothes he would
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  Speaker 2: have been covered in blood. There's gas station footage of
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  Speaker 2: him walking around with a backpack in clean clothes. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to find a lot more about this, and it
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  Speaker 2: is not going to be pretty okay moving along. Oprah
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  Speaker 2: Winfrey has pretty much cut off Doctor Phil and Dr Oz.
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  Speaker 2: But they're saying that their politics have nothing to do
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  Speaker 2: with her. We're not at political shows, so don't get
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  Speaker 2: nervous here. But there's something really interesting here. So Oprah's
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  Speaker 2: drawing a line between herself and the political paths that
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  Speaker 2: two people that she helped create have taken. And that
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  Speaker 2: would be doctor Phil and Dr Oz. So she helped
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  Speaker 2: really launch well not really, she did. She launched both
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  Speaker 2: of these men into TV stardom. Oprah's now saying that
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  Speaker 2: what they do now is their responsibility, which I do understand.
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  Speaker 2: She said the following to Emmy Magazine quote. Everybody has
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  Speaker 2: their own path in life, and it is not one
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  Speaker 2: thing to do with me, and it has not one
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  Speaker 2: thing to do with me. So she's saying that you
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  Speaker 2: can work with people and then they go on and
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  Speaker 2: do other stuff. I was thinking about this because a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people blame Oprah for what they don't like
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  Speaker 2: about Doctor Phil and mister Oz doctor asked, She's basically saying,
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  Speaker 2: they worked with me, they really worked for me, and
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  Speaker 2: then after the show ended, I'm not responsible for the
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  Speaker 2: rest of their lives and the rest of their decisions.
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  Speaker 2: I think she's making a valid point. What do you
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  Speaker 2: think I do too?
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  Speaker 1: I listen, I was a fan of both of them
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  Speaker 1: for many years. I watched their shows, and then you know,
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  Speaker 1: they turned out to be other people. They've evolved into
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  Speaker 1: something else, and Oprah can't be held accountable for that. However,
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  Speaker 1: I do question, you know, were these people doctor phild
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  Speaker 1: doctor As they have certain beliefs they didn't share the public,
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  Speaker 1: but Obra knew about. I mean, I can't imagine they
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  Speaker 1: turned into completely different people over you know, it's possible
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  Speaker 1: that they were, you know, behind the scenes in a
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  Speaker 1: certain way.
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  Speaker 2: Open. Oh that's so interesting, Mark. You're right. People don't change,
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  Speaker 2: particularly middle aged people like doctor Phil and doctor Os
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  Speaker 2: they were not teenagers went O per met them. They
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  Speaker 2: were very well established in their careers. In fact, that's
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  Speaker 2: part of the reason she had them on the show,
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  Speaker 2: because they were experts. She had a criminal case in
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  Speaker 2: Texas and doctor Phil was brought on to help her
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  Speaker 2: with that case. And so you don't bring on somebody
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  Speaker 2: who's an amateur, somebody that's started their career to work
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  Speaker 2: with Oprah Winfrey. So he was already very established. So
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  Speaker 2: did their views change or did they always have these views?
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  Speaker 2: Most likely they always had them. And if you had them, yes,
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  Speaker 2: she might have kept them under wraps on camera. What
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  Speaker 2: you presented on the TV show might have been different.
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  Speaker 2: But people we've worked with Mark I know who they are.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have to be on television to know that.
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  Speaker 2: You might work with somebody in a restaurant, a bar,
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  Speaker 2: or shop. When they're on the shop floor, they might
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  Speaker 2: put on a very professional face. But when you go
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  Speaker 2: back and sit in the breakroom, I've been in them.
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  Speaker 2: You sit in a break room, they tell you who
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  Speaker 2: they are. So the question is did she know did
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  Speaker 2: she know? And then the big question is and if
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  Speaker 2: she did know, is she now comfortable with giving them
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  Speaker 2: a stage to make them into superstars. The power of
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  Speaker 2: Oprah wouldn't free. She just celebrated her fortieth anniversary in Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: I have a story up about it on my substucu.
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  Speaker 2: It is interesting that neither doctor Phil nor doctor raz
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  Speaker 2: Or the union. But it is interesting and it's a
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  Speaker 2: bigger question, isn't it. What sort of responsibility do we
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  Speaker 2: hold for people who we work with. They're not family members.
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  Speaker 2: These are you can't say coworkers because she was the boss.
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  Speaker 2: They weren't producers that worked on the show. It is
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  Speaker 2: Oprah fascinating. Okay, moving along. We broke this news three
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  Speaker 2: days ago. We told you first that this was going
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  Speaker 2: to happen, and now it has. What am I talking about?
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  Speaker 1: I try to impress Helton's mother is stepping in to
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  Speaker 1: protect your grandchildren following the celebrity blogger bloggers recent mental
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  Speaker 1: health crisis. Now Teresa Tia lavenderra file for temporary custody
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  Speaker 1: of praises three children on August seventh, and the core
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  Speaker 1: documents show that Helped in voluntarily consented to the arena
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  Speaker 1: and this temporary order gives his mother the authority over
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  Speaker 1: the children's medical care, education, and essential decisions.
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  Speaker 2: M has to be Mark. We need somebody looking after
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  Speaker 2: those kids. So everybody's talking about Perez, we should be.
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  Speaker 2: No one's talking about those three kids. It's heartbreaking now.
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  Speaker 2: Perez's mom has been in these children's lives a very
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  Speaker 2: long time. Perez didn't just have a meltdown. It was
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  Speaker 2: a long time coming. We've known Perez for twenty five
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  Speaker 2: thirty years. He's always been erratic, He's always been unstable
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  Speaker 2: in many ways. I can't imagine what that must be
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  Speaker 2: like having a person like Perez as your parent. You
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  Speaker 2: want stability, don't you. And so even on his good days,
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot going on there. And I'm told his
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  Speaker 2: mom was the constant, she was the rock, she was
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  Speaker 2: the one that was with the children. Let's remember when
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  Speaker 2: this most recent terrifying suicide attempt happened. The kids were
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  Speaker 2: in the house when this started, and they got the
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  Speaker 2: kids out of the house. So we broke this story
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  Speaker 2: three days ago. I have sources deep within the Preres world.
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  Speaker 2: I know him very well. I've not spoken to him,
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  Speaker 2: I have texted him, and this is not the end
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  Speaker 2: of the story. I would be very, very surprised if
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  Speaker 2: he ever gets those kids back full time, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that might be a responsible thing to do. It's hard,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it, Mark, When you're talking about children and parents.
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  Speaker 2: It's none of my business. It's their family. But I
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  Speaker 2: want those kids protected.
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  Speaker 1: I do too, And I think the positive here is
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  Speaker 1: that he is agreeing prayers, is agreeing because he's voluntarily consented,
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  Speaker 1: which is an important detail, because he's acknowledging I am
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  Speaker 1: not fit to be appearing right now. And you know,
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  Speaker 1: his mother is older, but she does seem to be
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  Speaker 1: someone who's not looking to be in the spotlight. She's
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  Speaker 1: not asking to do interviews. She's made sure that the
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  Speaker 1: information sealed, so she is thinking of the best interest
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  Speaker 1: of the kids by protecting their privacy.
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  Speaker 2: You know, that is a very important point. Mark. Several
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  Speaker 2: of my friends work on the big morning shows, and
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  Speaker 2: they've all reached out to the mother, to the sister
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  Speaker 2: for an interview they wanted. This story is getting a
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  Speaker 2: lot of clicks, a lot of attention. I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: they particularly care about Perez, but they do care about viewers.
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  Speaker 2: They want viewers, and this story is a hot story.
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  Speaker 2: And so I know for a fact three three of
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  Speaker 2: the big morning shows have reached out and they've turned
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  Speaker 2: down all interview requests. They don't like the spotlight. Perez
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: will do an interview. The moment that he gets harried,
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: he'll do an interview. And I'm just you know, Perez
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  Speaker 2: is who he is. We're trying to handle this with
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  Speaker 2: more grace than he would have given us. Let's be honest,
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  Speaker 2: if somebody else, if this had happened to somebody else,
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  Speaker 2: he would not be so kind about it on his website.
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  Speaker 2: So we're trying to be kind kind to him. But
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  Speaker 2: there is an element to this, which is the children
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  Speaker 2: that makes me just so sad. Okay, quickly, before we
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: get a break. Rod Stewart has canceled the rest of
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  Speaker 2: his tour dates. He's had a heart procedure. God bless him.
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  Speaker 2: He's eighty one years old. He said that after he recovers,
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: he's going to be back out on the road. They
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: just can't help themselves. But I think this is about
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: go and see your favorite pop stars now, because we're
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  Speaker 2: all getting older. If you love cher if you love
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  Speaker 2: Diana Ross, if you love Bette Middler, if you love Madonna,
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  Speaker 2: they can't do this forever. Elton Chahn, I'm so grateful
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  Speaker 2: Billy Joel that we've got to see Mark, some of
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  Speaker 2: the greats. So honestly, if you want to see one
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: of your favorite pop stars, don't delay, buy that ticket
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  Speaker 2: and go and have a fabulous, fabulous night. Okay, we're
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  Speaker 2: going to take a quick break and we will be
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  Speaker 2: right back. Welcome back to the Naughty but Nice Sham.
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  Speaker 2: Your host? Will she say, hey, let's get to the poles?
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Mark. Last share we took about Sarah pak Said,
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  Speaker 2: Duchess of York, jetting off to Portugal to meet her
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  Speaker 2: newest granddaughter, so she doesn't want to meet them in
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  Speaker 2: the UK. Vicious, frightened she'll be arrested. Can you a gently?
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  Speaker 2: This is where we are with the royal fabula? I
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  Speaker 2: mean that is such a sentence. Should she return to
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  Speaker 2: the UK and answer police questions? They've got a lot
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  Speaker 2: of questions for Sarah. She's hiding in Europe, she's having
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  Speaker 2: to sneak into Portugal to meet her granddaughter. She's not
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  Speaker 2: going back to the UK. Should she? Ninety five percent?
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  Speaker 2: That might be the highest vote we've ever had. Said yes,
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  Speaker 2: go and answer the questions. If you're innocent, go and
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  Speaker 2: help Go and answer the questions. If you're guilty, then
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  Speaker 2: you're going to be caught eventually, Sarah, you can't hide
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  Speaker 2: from this. Hey, don't forget to vote on today's Paul.
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  Speaker 2: It's an interesting questions today about non disclosure agreements and
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  Speaker 2: part of the show. It's time for nicest of the day.
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  Speaker 1: Oh very sweet. So John Voyd has reacted to his
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  Speaker 1: son James Haven coming out as gay. Oh how you doing, James?
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  Speaker 2: How you doing? How you doing it?
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  Speaker 1: So? James Haven is expected he expected a difficult conversation
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  Speaker 1: with his father, John Boyd after coming out as gay,
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  Speaker 1: but instead he got a surprisingly emotional response, M I
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  Speaker 1: finally know who you are before he told his son.
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  Speaker 1: According to Haven, Haven then went on to say that
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  Speaker 1: the reaction was affirming and that Void told him now
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  Speaker 1: he understood why he had always been so private.
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  Speaker 2: Oh this is so sweet. I'm glad that he is
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  Speaker 2: living his truth? Is that how we say it? I'm glad.
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  Speaker 2: I think we sort of suspected, but I'm I'm glad
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  Speaker 2: that he's ad. You know, it's a tricky one, isn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Do you Should you give your parents the opportunity to
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  Speaker 2: embrace you or deny you, And then should the parents
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  Speaker 2: build an environment where you feel safe enough to tell
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  Speaker 2: them something? You know what I mean? Like I wish
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  Speaker 2: I had given I didn't give my dad, at least
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  Speaker 2: my mom I did, But I didn't give my dad
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  Speaker 2: the chance to push me away because I just never
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  Speaker 2: dealt with it. I just kept it sort of like
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  Speaker 2: a secret from my dad. Obviously he now knows. May
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  Speaker 2: he rest in peace, but he knew. But at the
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  Speaker 2: same time, the other part of that equation is my
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  Speaker 2: dad didn't exactly provide an environment that was very welcoming
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  Speaker 2: for that conversation. You know your family's beliefs. We were
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  Speaker 2: saying this earlier about Oprah and doctor Phil. You know
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  Speaker 2: what they believe. They might not say it in public,
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  Speaker 2: but when you live in a house with somebody, you
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  Speaker 2: know if they don't like gay people, and if they
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  Speaker 2: don't and if they say awful things when somebody gays
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  Speaker 2: on television or somebody is in a newspaper. You don't
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  Speaker 2: reveal that part of yourself you're coming out. It was
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  Speaker 2: pretty easy, wasn't it, Mark.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't as complicated. But you know, I think as
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  Speaker 1: a gay person in the world, you had many moments
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  Speaker 1: of coming out, whether it be your your parents, your friends,
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  Speaker 1: as people you work with, whatever, and so it's it
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  Speaker 1: is difficult. And to your point, I did. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: realize she was not in the classt. I thought he
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  Speaker 1: was a gay man. But it just shows how nuanced
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  Speaker 1: and difficult these moments can be for someone, even in
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  Speaker 1: their own family.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I've got this delicious story I'm working on for
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  Speaker 2: my sub stack. So I have great Angelina Jolie Saucers
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  Speaker 2: who really love us. They never told me anything bad.
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  Speaker 2: It's always very positive. But that's you know what sources do.
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  Speaker 2: That's why you have to have their sides. They said
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  Speaker 2: that she is thrilled that she has known a while
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  Speaker 2: and now she's tried to set him up on dates
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  Speaker 2: with some of because she knows every gay bad in
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  Speaker 2: the Hollywood, every hairdresser. That's the stereotype. But you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean, she knows a lot of fabulous gay people.
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  Speaker 2: So you're a good hands matchmaker, Angelina Lovely, Let's do
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  Speaker 2: a naughty is the day? Oh, naughty, naughty, naughty CBS
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  Speaker 2: is the naughtiest of the day. They've got hotspur. If
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  Speaker 2: you don't know what that is, it means balls. Basically,
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  Speaker 2: they have got hotspur because Stephen called their show that
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  Speaker 2: they canceled now pushing for any consideration. So there's a
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  Speaker 2: whole campaign to get the Late Show an Emmy Award.
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  Speaker 2: Now this is they probably get a weird it's a
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  Speaker 2: great show, but it has been canceled. They decided to
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  Speaker 2: enter in May, and now CBS wants the prestige of
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  Speaker 2: an Emmy Award without having to keep the show alive
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  Speaker 2: TV Networks market. They do make me chuckle. They are
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  Speaker 2: bold CBS. That's goods. Let's saend with a moment. Half rub,
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  Speaker 2: you're gonn rub, You rub your rub. You need to
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  Speaker 2: develop a strong opinion of yourself. If you don't develop
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  Speaker 2: a strong opinion of yourself, you start absorbing everybody else's projections.
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  Speaker 2: So what they think, what they want you to be,
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  Speaker 2: is who you become. Their doubts become your doubts, their
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  Speaker 2: criticisms become your inner voice. Their limitations become the boundaries
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  Speaker 2: that you live inside. You don't need everyone to understand you,
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  Speaker 2: but you do need to understand you when you trust
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  Speaker 2: your own judgment other people's opinions. This is so important.
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  Speaker 2: Become information, not instructions. I ask opinions all the time,
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  Speaker 2: but then I decide which ones I'm going to take.
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  Speaker 2: Just because you give me your opinion doesn't mean you're right.
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  Speaker 2: Some of the auties have noticed that I've become an
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  Speaker 2: opinion writer over the last couple of weeks, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: loving it. But it's just my opinion. It's not an instruction.
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  Speaker 2: It's what I think. But I know myself. So the
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  Speaker 2: goal is not to become arrogant. Gosh, we've seen that
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  Speaker 2: happen too many times. The goal is. The goal is
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  Speaker 2: to become anchored, get to know yourself and develop a
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  Speaker 2: strong opinion about who you are. Hey, that is it
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  Speaker 2: for today. Thank you so much for listening to the
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