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The Way Home S4E7 · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Girls Go on Hallmark, a Hallmark review podcast.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Megan and I'm a longtime Hallmark fan.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Wendy. I'm a former Hallmark hater.
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  Speaker 1: On today's episode, we're discussing The Way Home Season four,
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  Speaker 1: episode seven, Work in My Way Back to You, which
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  Speaker 1: originally aired on the Hallmark Channel on Sunday, May thirty first,
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  Speaker 1: and is currently streaming on Hallmark Plus. If you like
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  Speaker 1: this podcast and you like hanging out with Wendy and I,
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  Speaker 1: weekly I don't think I edited in today's episode.
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  Speaker 2: We've been busy, you guys, if you haven't noticed, this
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  Speaker 2: episode's out late, and just you know, things are falling
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  Speaker 2: apart over here.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll go up today. Weekly episodes from us. They
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  Speaker 1: are a good time and just as unhinged as you
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  Speaker 1: might expect them to be.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, we will be recording our weekly The Way Home
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  Speaker 2: mail Bag episode. We love your emails. Please email us
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  Speaker 2: hello at Girls Gone, Hallmark dot com. What's our cutoff?
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  Speaker 2: It's usually like Wednesday, sometimes Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: This week we're recording on Thursday, so you need to
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  Speaker 1: get your emails and voicemails in by Wednesday if you'd
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  Speaker 1: like to be included.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm dying to hear what people have to say.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, last week we recorded a little earlier, so some
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  Speaker 1: emails did come in after, but I still scan them
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  Speaker 1: to see if there's something we need to grab and
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  Speaker 1: toss it. Fabulous, All right, why don't we kick this
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  Speaker 1: discussion off with a synopsis?
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  Speaker 2: Some questions are answered for Elliott and Kat while others linger. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: in the present, new choices arise for Alice as she
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  Speaker 2: evaluates her future.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, Wendy, what was your first impression of this episode
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  Speaker 1: of The Way Home?
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  Speaker 2: We'll get ready with your bleeper. Oh oh, I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to go to my text that I sent you after
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  Speaker 2: I watched this last night, and it read, what in
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  Speaker 2: the was this episode? I'm annoyed.
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  Speaker 1: Well, people aren't gonna like my first impression either, and
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  Speaker 1: it's there's a big part of this that I hate.
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  Speaker 2: A whole lot I want. I can't wait to talk
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  Speaker 2: about it with you that I know what you're referring to. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm interested in learning more and deep diving into
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  Speaker 2: why you hate this part of the story.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well this is something I don't hate. Let's talk
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  Speaker 1: Dell and Sam. Okay, the reality of Dell and Sam
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  Speaker 1: after this episode is all as well. With them, they're
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  Speaker 1: like two little kids in love. Dell remembers telling Sam
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  Speaker 1: that she loves him after her fall. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: truly don't remember. I'm not sure that they showed us.
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  Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they show us.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know they showed us in this episode, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't remember that happening when he picked her up either,
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  Speaker 1: me neither. But Sam commits to re earning Dell's love,
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  Speaker 1: and this all comes about because of some flashback and
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  Speaker 1: some current scenes with Sam and Casey that we'll get
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  Speaker 1: to in a little bit, but just talking about the
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  Speaker 1: Dell and Sam of it all, He plans a Q
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  Speaker 1: outdoor movie night for.
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  Speaker 2: The two of them.
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  Speaker 1: I'd like to talk about a couple little did you
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  Speaker 1: see that? So I pulled from our Dell and our
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  Speaker 1: Sam scene?
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  Speaker 2: Nice? Nice, nice, First.
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  Speaker 1: It's August or July, we're not sure it's summer before
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  Speaker 1: these kids are supposed to leave for college. And Dell
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  Speaker 1: is bundled up like it's November. Is it cold in
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  Speaker 1: New Brunswick in August or was it just cold in
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  Speaker 1: actual fall when they were filming this?
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  Speaker 3: Right?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, that is so funny you say that because I
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  Speaker 2: have a scene later that has to do with weather.
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  Speaker 2: Oh but the weather they're wearing. And I'm like, what,
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  Speaker 2: But that's a good question because we know that Cat
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  Speaker 2: is supposed to be taking Alice to school, right, so
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  Speaker 2: that could be somewhere mid August. Why is Dell wearing
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  Speaker 2: a jacket and a scarf? Right?
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's August, Tier is miserable, but perhaps winter
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  Speaker 1: comes earlier the farther.
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  Speaker 2: North, you go. You know, geography is not our strong suit, guys,
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  Speaker 2: neither is weather. So what, Yes, summer here in southern
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  Speaker 2: California is like August, September, October. Well, you know, like
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  Speaker 2: north of here in San Francisco, it's like cold all
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  Speaker 2: the time, right, yeah, sure, no, I understand. So maybe
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  Speaker 2: on the east coast in New Brunswick.
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  Speaker 1: Look, we're going to Oregon next month, and I was
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  Speaker 1: not next month in a couple of weeks and I
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  Speaker 1: was looking at the weather. It's in the forties and fifties. Right, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: got like love it, I know, I'm so excited. So
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  Speaker 1: and it's June, so anything can happen. I just noticed that.
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  Speaker 1: And my other digitsy that is the outdoor movie night
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  Speaker 1: that Sam plans for Dell. They're watching Some Like It Hot.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: They have not referenced Some Like at Hot directly in
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  Speaker 1: this series. However, when Nick and Kat travels to nineteen
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  Speaker 1: twenty five, he uses the name Spats and he says,
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  Speaker 1: I heard it in the movie once, which led me
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  Speaker 1: to google the movie. And as we discussed in that episode,
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  Speaker 1: Spats is the name of a bootlegger who runs a speakeasy.
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  Speaker 1: So is there a connection somehow between Sam and Nick?
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  Speaker 1: Is this just a fun little easter egg for the
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  Speaker 1: writers to drop in for us? Sam says something like, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: we're working our way through the some list the class
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he did like some like top ten lists or something. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he made a reference to some sort of list.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, film, butser screaming at us, but I know, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so he that's his reason for choosing this movie.
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  Speaker 2: It was next.
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  Speaker 1: Essentially, the end result is all is well with these two.
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  Speaker 1: They're back on course. And how does this make you feel?
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  Speaker 1: Are you happy about it? I'm fine with that. Fine,
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  Speaker 1: I'm fine with it too.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, whatever, Like I want Dell to be happy. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: I want Dell to be happy too. I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to even pretend what it would feel like to lose
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  Speaker 2: my spouse, right, Sure. I think it's great that Dell's
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  Speaker 2: gonna move on. However, I have a lot of you know,
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  Speaker 2: suspicions about Sam, so I don't. I don't think this
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  Speaker 2: is just your normal relationships, you know. So we'll see,
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  Speaker 2: we'll see. But great, good for Della and Sam. I'm
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  Speaker 2: finally happy. I'm happy she finally like came around. Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it's a little bit of both.
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  Speaker 1: Let's let's I know my notes aren't on this order,
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  Speaker 1: but I think we should talk about Sam and Casey
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  Speaker 1: so we can tie this all together, Okay. In my notes,
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  Speaker 1: I said this is simultaneously the most interesting part of
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  Speaker 1: the episode and the most frustrating, because when Casey shows up,
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  Speaker 1: Sam is playing chess in the park in the past,
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  Speaker 1: asked the recent past the first time he's twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: I think it said, oh did it? I didn't didn't
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  Speaker 1: even clock that. And this appears to be Sam and
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  Speaker 1: Casey's initial meeting. Casey knows a lot about Sam. Casey's
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  Speaker 1: not subtle. Casey's like, I come from a time when
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  Speaker 1: we know each other very well. I mean, Casey's just like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a time traveler. Here's the deal. We need to
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  Speaker 1: move this along. I need your help, I need an attorney.
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  Speaker 1: Sam takes this all pretty much in stride, doesn't question
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  Speaker 1: one thing. Like his biggest takeaway is like, oh, Dylla
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  Speaker 1: and I are still together in the future. That's great news.
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  Speaker 1: Not what the hell do you mean you're a time traveler?
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  Speaker 1: Where's your delirium? Like, just doesn't even question that element
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  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 2: But what not even like a reaction on the face. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: because Sam is some sort of time traveler too. I'm
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  Speaker 2: can Why was Sam's picture at the freaking circus right
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  Speaker 2: right right? Can I just stop you? Whoever is styling
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  Speaker 2: the character of Casey is so freaking cool because Casey's
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  Speaker 2: clothes are on point. I agree, love it.
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  Speaker 1: One of the big takeaways Casey discusses needing a lawyer.
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  Speaker 1: She wants to know if an old document would still
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  Speaker 1: hold up in court. Obviously, I assume this is Susanna's
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  Speaker 1: will that Casey is discussing and asking about. But they
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  Speaker 1: don't really get into that in this scene, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: not even sure that they need to. It's just Sam
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  Speaker 1: helped authenticate that.
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  Speaker 2: It seems like right.
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  Speaker 1: But the other thing is we get two chess table
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  Speaker 1: meetings of Sam and Casey, one in twenty twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: one in present day, and then present day. Sam's forlorn
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  Speaker 1: because he's losing Dell, and Casey's like, yeah, this is
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  Speaker 1: why I shouldn't tell.
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  Speaker 2: You your future.
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  Speaker 1: Because the line is I may have told you your future,
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  Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean you have to stop trying to
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  Speaker 1: earn it.
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  Speaker 2: I know what your question is going to be. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: you wonder the viewer's impression is that Sam stopped trying
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  Speaker 2: to earn Dell's love or whatever. U huh. I never
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  Speaker 2: really caught wind of that, and never he always looked
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  Speaker 2: interested in her, Like it didn't look like he ever
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  Speaker 2: stopped trying.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I feel like we were told, not shown,
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  Speaker 1: because I agree with you. I didn't see Sam behaving
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  Speaker 1: that way. I didn't see Sam taking Dell for granted. Now,
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  Speaker 1: did he bring her flowers every single time they got together? No,
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  Speaker 1: he didn't. That's not the realistic way a relationship progresses.
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  Speaker 1: But he showed up for her. He was around, he
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  Speaker 1: was interested in her, he was spending time with her.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like they're trying to make us believe something
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  Speaker 1: that wasn't really.
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  Speaker 2: There, or that they didn't do a good job of
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  Speaker 2: showing us.
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  Speaker 1: Now they told us through Dell yelling at Sam, saying,
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  Speaker 1: you're taking me for granted, right, But I didn't see
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  Speaker 1: that happening.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, you are correct about that. I feel like more
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  Speaker 2: on the opposite side, we got Dell and all these
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  Speaker 2: like flashback memories that she was dealing with, questioning her future,
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  Speaker 2: like she if she wanted to stay still kind of
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  Speaker 2: not with Colton, but like yeah, in love with his memory,
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  Speaker 2: yes exactly, or moving forward, and how she would fit
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  Speaker 2: into the future of Sam's life and or Julian's life
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. That's that's where I thought we were getting,
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  Speaker 2: like the most resistance from was Dell.
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  Speaker 1: I thought so too, And I also thought it was
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  Speaker 1: also a convenient way for Dell to cover up the
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  Speaker 1: fact that she started to have temporary feelings for Julian
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  Speaker 1: and she, while in a relationship with Sam, was entertaining
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  Speaker 1: this flirtation.
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  Speaker 2: Hmm. Interesting.
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  Speaker 1: So nevertheless, this is what spurs Sam to take action
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  Speaker 1: and let Dell know by showing he's all in, He's
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  Speaker 1: Luke danzing it. Yes, I love that. But the reason
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  Speaker 1: this is so frustrating to me, I'm trying to enjoy
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  Speaker 1: the ride. I'm struggling to enjoy the ride. I think
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  Speaker 1: we have I think we have too many secrets. I
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  Speaker 1: think we have too many unsolved mysteries. It's a frustrating
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  Speaker 1: watch because the answers are doled out in tiny, little
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  Speaker 1: baby bird medicine dropper fulls that I'm just begging for more,
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  Speaker 1: like please suh, Like can I have a scrap of
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  Speaker 1: information please.
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  Speaker 2: Like concrete information? Yes, stop giving these lines in riddles.
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  Speaker 2: As a viewer, it's very frustrating to watch. That's why
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  Speaker 2: I turned this episode off. I was like, I'm over it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, let's wrap it up.
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  Speaker 1: It finally happened, folks, It finally happened.
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  Speaker 2: Well. And then we have this whole thing too with
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  Speaker 2: Sam and Casey playing chess. Here like the bishop move
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  Speaker 2: blah blah blah blah blah, all this sense. In the
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  Speaker 2: last scene in twenty twenty four, Casey sitting at the
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  Speaker 2: chess tables. They are holding the Bishop. The next scene
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  Speaker 2: jumps to present day and they show the chess board
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  Speaker 2: and the bishop piece has been replaced. It's like an off,
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  Speaker 2: like it's a different Oh nice catch, So that's the
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  Speaker 2: piece that's eventually in like Evelyn's Attic Attic or whatever. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: but but so we don't have any context, like we
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  Speaker 2: have no explanation. Why why, why why do they do this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm kind of, like you said, trying to enjoy
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  Speaker 2: the ride as well, but finding myself very frustrated.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, And even at the end of Back to the
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  Speaker 1: Dell and Sam resolution scene with their outdoor movie night,
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  Speaker 1: Casey shows up and Sam spots them and goes to
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  Speaker 1: talk to k and Sam's like, I want to tell
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  Speaker 1: Dell everything, and Casey simply says, be careful how much
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  Speaker 1: you share. And Sam's like, I'm surprised you're being that
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  Speaker 1: free with the information. And Casey says that time is
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  Speaker 1: coming to an end, basically the time of keeping all
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  Speaker 1: of these secrets.
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  Speaker 2: But come to an end faster, please. You got three
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  Speaker 2: episodes left.
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  Speaker 1: Gosh, I know it's a lot, but you know, as
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  Speaker 1: soon as you see Sam with the chess board, it's like,
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  Speaker 1: get out my clown makeup, Like, let's just get ready
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  Speaker 1: with me.
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  Speaker 2: To it's a oh the Bishop's opening, but you know that? Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: exactly exactly. All right, where do you want to move
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  Speaker 2: to next?
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about n eighteen twenty five with
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  Speaker 1: Fern and Tessa and Elliott and Kat.
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  Speaker 2: Let me tell you. I have so many thoughts. But
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  Speaker 2: first of all, I was watching this on Friendly last night.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yes, because I whited the hullabaloo on Friendly line well,
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  Speaker 1: and I was one of those affected. I couldn't watch
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  Speaker 1: it live.
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  Speaker 2: I watched it much later, and Friendly recorded it and
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  Speaker 2: for like three good minutes at the beginning in nineteenth.
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  Speaker 2: In the nineteen twenty five era, they had some technical difficulties,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm like, I just miss a big chunk. I
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  Speaker 2: come up, like it starts again, like we're Fern and
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: Kat are talking on the porch. So I logged on
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  Speaker 2: this morning on Hallmark Plus and watched that section. But
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: what the frick Friendly? Like, what did they do? What happened? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's bizarre. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I caught it on Facebook this morning. People were talking
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  Speaker 1: about like the great Friendly outage of twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a conspiracy. What does it mean? Yep? Yep, yep, okay,
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  Speaker 2: So nineteen twenty five, I want to.
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: Start outside of the plot. We see on the farmhouse
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  Speaker 1: table in Landry Farm, which I find it very interesting
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  Speaker 1: that none of them live here and yet they're sitting
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  Speaker 1: at this farmhouse table.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you're right, because Cliff is an actual board yes, now,
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  Speaker 2: like this is not Fern's home.
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  Speaker 1: No, So Elliot's glasses are sitting on this table and
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: they are broken because he's been whacked over the head
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  Speaker 1: by his great grandfather. Cut to the Lingermore tunnels. This
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  Speaker 1: is in my head, I'm cutting to the Lingermore So
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  Speaker 1: I was like.
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  Speaker 2: I don't did that know? And are during my Black
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  Speaker 2: House and.
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  Speaker 1: Our listener mail bag when a listener emailed in and said, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I think those glasses they found were Elliott's. Cut to
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  Speaker 1: another listener mailbag that we did not read, but we
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  Speaker 1: had a submission come in after we had already recorded
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  Speaker 1: the episode, and someone said, those couldn't be Elliott's glasses
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: because there they.
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  Speaker 2: Don't look the same.
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  Speaker 1: Again, they don't look the same because Elliott's glasses broke
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  Speaker 1: and he somehow procured some old timey look and glasses
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  Speaker 1: during his time in the past. Because we know that
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Elliott does not come back immediately.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Maybe he sole clips I clothes, poor Cliffs, Like, where's
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: all my stuff disappearing? Too?
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have that many clothes. It's not like
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: there's a target down the streets.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Hand Away can go over to Linz Crafter made.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the first thing I wanted to talk about.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: There are a few different combos. Let's talk Tessa and Elliott. Dude,
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Tessa dressed up like the.
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  Speaker 2: Boss, Like, what is happening?
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  Speaker 1: Such a big shift from young adult Tessa even like
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: even Tessa the fortune teller.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Oh right, why are you wearing a mob outfit? Now?
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Like I and this is she's dropped on my Oh.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Capone's not gonna be hoppy about this. I hate everything.
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  Speaker 2: I know you hate another storyline. I hate this storyline?
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  Speaker 1: Do you?
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I just feel unleashed straight now. Sorry,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: we're all the big fans of the show, and we
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: were there too. I still like it, so do I,
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  Speaker 2: But I feel like this was the episode. They're like, Okay,
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: well we got word that we're not coming back, so
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: big middle fingers to y'all, let's light it on fire.
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  Speaker 2: But I was why is she wearing a mob outfit.
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  Speaker 1: Import an I don't look. Tessa is stone cold to
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: Elliott and a cat. She's like, you guys ruined everything.
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  Speaker 1: That is her entire message. And Elliott rightfully is like, yo,
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  Speaker 1: do you want to give me a morsel of information
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  Speaker 1: about why you left me and my father behind in
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: my infancy? And she's like, it was the best choice
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  Speaker 1: I had available to me, and not even with a
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: like tiny bit of warmth, like if you only could
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: understand why I had to make those choices right, just
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: straight out like, no, I do not care to entertain
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: this topic of conversation because I got bigger fish to fry.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Eh did you want it in there? I? Oh god,
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  Speaker 1: this is not the reunification that our poor Elliot was
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  Speaker 1: hoping for.
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  Speaker 2: Here's my other question, too, is Tessa asks Elliott like
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: she asks about Griffin, like yes, what do you know
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: what happened to Griffin? Or and he goes, don't you
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: want to know what happened to Vick? Which is a
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: good question, it is, but what what did happen to Griffin?
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: You know what? This is one of my biggest problems
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: is we still don't know why Tessa and Griffin travel
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: together and it's still being mentioned, and like, I need
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: to know why why did they travel together? Did he
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: like want to run off with her? Was she? Were
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: they in love? What? Right? We don't know?
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: And the other answer to your question, we don't really
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: know what happened to Griffin. There was a comment I
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: believe from Fern where for instead something like, you know,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Griffin would pop in like visit every now and then,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: but we don't have details about what he was doing
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: in between, right, Yeah, we don't know much about Griffin.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Griffin's going to be the freaking key to all of
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: this and he's not even like a major player, you know.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: That's what I feel like is coming. Like, that's how
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: they're going to wrap it all up. Let's just put
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: it on Griffin.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Also, in this time period, we have Kat and Fern
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: actually like this part they find each other. I think
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: this this show is so much more about the relationships
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: between women, both as friends and family than about any
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: romantic relationship that exists in this universe. I think I
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: think those relationships are so much stronger. So Kat and
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: Fern connect as friends and as family, and they have
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: similar life experiences, both having lost a parent and lost
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: a brother, although under different circumstances, and we'll see that
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: play out again a little bit in the future. But this,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: this is nice for me for Kat. This is the
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: kind of the first connection that Kat has made in
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: the past. Oh that's not she connected with her dad.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: But Alice has made some really strong connections in the past.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: And Kat has been a messmaker, yes she's been, she's
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: been time traveling as a task master, yeah, whereas Alice
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: has been more a relationship developed or totally.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: So I liked this. I gotta say. I liked that moment.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: I agree, And it softened Fern a little bit for
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: me because I was kind of suspicious of young Fern,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: like she knows information, but she's not telling information, and uh,
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: is she good? Is she bad? Whatever? I thought this
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: interaction between Kat and young Fern really softened Fern. Yeah,
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: And Kat says, you know, you don't have to marry Grayson,
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: and we know that Fern doesn't, but Fern doesn't know
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: that yet. And for instance, I just need a fellaw
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: to rely on. And it just suggests that life has
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: been harder for Fern than she would like to let on.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: And I think Fern knows that independence for women in
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: nineteen twenty five, you know, she unfortunately kind of does
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: need a man for certain things.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Now do we think Fern and Cliff ended up being together?
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm that's what you believe, Mm hmm. They get married.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: What's Cliff's last name, Cain. Yeah.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: My belief is that Fern's son is Cliff Kane's son,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: h okay, and that's Colton's dad, Fern's son. Yes, Cliff
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: does show up in this time period and he's questioning
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Fern about what's going on. But then they like yell
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: back and forth, and Fern says, why are you so twisted?
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: And it's about my welfare because he's so worried about
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: her being with Grayson And there it's like a passionate
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: yelling and then they kiss.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Shucker, I hated all of this.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Oh, I thought it was pretty obvious right now, felt
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: like someone was cause playing like.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes exactly. That's why I hated it, Yes exactly.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: This time period ends with Cat finding Elliott at the pond.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: She wants to go home and Elliott is like, I
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: need answers. They go to jump and Elliott I think
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: this is real shitty of Elliott. Elliott lets go of
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: her hand and he says, Cat, wait, yeah, as if
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: imply that she left him behind, as opposed to he
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: intentionally stayed right now, Kat of course is going to
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: be spinning out trying to get him back.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Totally totally. Yeah, I think that was real shitty of Elliott. Yeah,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: because Kat's going to be like in the future present day,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: like worried about him his safety, obviously trying to get
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: him back. Now now now she's on a mission to
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: get like well, I guess maybe she's not trying to
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: get Tessa back anymore because Tessa's cold des ice.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: But I just remember what my other first impression was
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: going to be. Tell me it was you and Danger Boy.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: He is in danger hmmm, danger boy. Yeah, but then
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: we have Cat. She's gonna this could go on for
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: a whole nother season. This could have been do you
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: see it. Elliott was on a sabbatical, but she's been
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: trying to get him back all year long. Season five, Yes,
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: this was the setup. This could have been the end
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: of season four. Yeah, yeah, but yes, I've got some thought.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I almost wonder if they had to refilm some of.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: This and what do you think that they had to refilm.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: Elliott's staying, But I don't, I don't know, I don't know,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I don't know. From there, Cat arrives in nineteen seventy nine,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: where she has a brief interaction with Fern, who once
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: again speaks in riddles. But this does kind of go
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: to my point about Fern and Kat connecting, because Fern's
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: so happy to see her, and Fern's so glad that
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Kat knows about their relationship now, and Kat's asking like,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: where's Elliott, And Fern's like, oh, you're in the middle
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: of all of that, right, But Fern tells Kat, you know,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: give him some time with his mother. There's never enough time,
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Fern says. Kat asks about Grayson and Cliff. Fern says
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: to Kat Landry women are cursed when it comes to
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: true love. And then you know tells Kat, you are
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: a true friend at a time when I needed one,
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: and I am grateful for the pond, for your friendship
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: if nothing else, like what else has the pond taken
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: from Fern? Fern leaves Kat with the final note. She says,
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the key is the key. Kitty Cat dunt dun dun't
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: will lead to Cat being the biggest buffoon in the.
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: History of this show quite frankly, well and maybe me too,
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: because I you know, the episode opened with like the
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: previously on and it shows Elliott like messing with the
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: piano key, right, and then we're gonna get there. But
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: are we talking an actual about a key, like a literal.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Key, not a key that you put in a lock,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: A key like the key on a map, Like this
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: symbol means oh, damn, see, I'm a buffoon too. I
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: think we'll talk about it.
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Okay. There's a lot of There's a lot that follows.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Kat returning from nineteen twenty five, starting with Kat talking
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: to Dell about it and Delle's like, maybe he's for
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the best, maybe he needs some time. Same thing for
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: insays like let him figure it out on his own.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: And this is when Dell and Kat have their interaction
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: where Dale talks about the dreams she's been having about
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Colton and Kat kind of gives her almost permission to
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: move on. In this scene, you know, no one can
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: compete with a dream, which is great, Like it's not
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: fair for you to compare Sam to your memories of
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Dad totally, and also you can't shy away from future happiness,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: which maybe Delle needed to hear her daughter say, her
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: daughter who loved her father so much, and she and
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: her daughter have had such a tumultuous relationship to hear
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Kat say like you deserve happiness too, like you have
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: a future ahead of you.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a nice It was a nice scene,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, and that's all I have to say about it.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I'm like, some of those scenes around the kitchen table,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: I know are poignant, but I'm like, Okay, they're transition
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: scenes for me, you know what I mean?
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Yes, speaking of transition scenes, really, Cat and Jacob have
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: a moment on the porch and she's talking to Jacob
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: about Elliott and she.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: Says he's my person.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: At the end of the episode, Alice returns from her
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: travels which we'll discuss, and she finds Kat and Kat's
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: freaking out because she can't get Kat's wet because she's
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: been trying to return to Elliott, and Kat says Fern says,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: land room and are kursed in love them? I cursed
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: in love? The phone rings and Elliott has received a
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: call and Kat answers and she's like, this is his girlfriend,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: which I don't know why. I was like, that's weird.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Why I don't know. I was like, oh, I forgosh,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: this is great.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're not like he hasn't proposed yet. Oh he's
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: sabbatical has been approved? Would they tell her? Would they
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: tell her that on the phone? I mean, it's not hippa, yeah,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: fair Kat's processing all of this.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: He had plan in place, like he was taking us
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: aboutle what else is he lying to me about? And
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: then of course we hear a beautiful dreamer on the clock.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: It's eleven eleven, and they go to Elliott's bed and
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: he's got a full on murder board on his bed.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Totally like I bet she lived there.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: No, not officially, she I think moved in there and
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: then it was last season and then that was like weird.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: She's like, no, I need to stay in my house
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: until how sleeves.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: But she just so happens like not to see this,
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: like all the archives spread out on the bed.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: The house isn't that big, right, not lingermore geez. And
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: so they find an article that has Elliott's photo in
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: it front page news and he's being arrested as the
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: big fish called Tom Buchanan in the article.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: Why introduce an alias name? Okay, they could have called
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: him Capone. I have some thoughts back to my secondary
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: first impression, you and danger boy. Are you ready tell
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: me yes?
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: After watching this scene, i'ment back to season four, episode one,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: cold open with Dell and Alice and Cat on the
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: banks of the pond. But what it actually opens with
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: is someone's hands trailing in the water of the pond,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: and we pull back and it's Cat, and Cat stands
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: up and turns around. She says, I wish he were here.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: And when you and I watched that, we said, who's he?
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Is it Jacob? Is it Colton? Who are they talking about?
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: And Delle says he's here in spirit. And it's very
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: clear in this interaction that the one who was hurting
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: the most is Cat.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: To me, that is the impression that I get.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: And Alice says, we got to get to the ideas
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: someone's getting married, and I don't think it's any of
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: these ladies we suspected. Oh it's Kat and Elliot's wedding.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Oh it's Dell and Sam's wedding. I don't think it's
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: any of them. Okay, I am very worried about Elliott.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: You think he's just gonna stay in nineteen twenty five.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I do know. I'm worried about Elliott.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: I think this show is about a lot of heartbreak,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: and I'm worried about Elliott. Also, immediately after that scene,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: there is a Great Gatsby quote that appears on the screen.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Oh, I don't remember. Oh, you're right in the first episode.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Tom Buchanan is a character from the Great Gatsby.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, look at you feel worried about Elliott? Are you?
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: Man? No, part of me's like, there's no way. It's
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: a tragic ending for Elliott on Hallmark. But who knows?
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: This show is always kind of operated outside, So who knows?
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Who knows?
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Look, I have seen some clips, some TikTok, some reels
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: of the cast of this show, and they're like, just
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: film the final episode and we've never cried more to
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: Now could that be like we're sad because our show
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: is ending, or could that be more sad about the
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: story we're having to tell?
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know. Yeah, he there. Let's talk how
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: about Jacob and Abby. This is Megan Lee's favorite storyline.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: And a little bit of Danny.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Why are you such a hater on Jacob and Abbey?
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: So I am just not interested in this storyline and
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know why, and I'm curious to hear from
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: the listeners what their thoughts. They go on this date
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: and it's so heavy handed. Yeah, Abby's trying to come
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: with a marketing pitch and Jacob's like.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Well, it's all about the soil.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Soil season one, and you know, he makes her hold
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: of soil in his hand, and then he says later
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: like I'd like to go on a date, and she's like,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: what was this And he's like, I didn't want to presume,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: and you know, all of this is happening, and I.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Just don't care. Well, I definitely think it's a storyline
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: built on convenience. They needed to have Jacob sort of
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: well I don't know, maybe they knew from whenever Casey
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: was introduced, or like, okay, Casey, this is my theory.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Casey's the child of Jacob and Abby, and so now
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: we got to like put the pieces together of who
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Abby is and how they how Jacob and Abby meet
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: and move on with their future, and unfortunately they got
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: four episodes to do it. So it's like fast tracked.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Look, I think that's the wedding that we're looking at.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: At the end of the beginning four.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Episodes they get married in four episodes. Well, it's the future.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: It's the future, the future. You're right, you're right, you're right,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: because episode one, season four it says the future. It
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: doesn't it doesn't give it time on it. You're right.
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's Casey's wedding for all I know. I don't know. Anyway.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: I wish I were more excited because in theory, I
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: believe the strongest theory is that these are Casey's parents,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: So Casey's an interesting character to me. I want to
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: be emotionally invested in who their parents are. But I'm
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: definitely more interested in Casey than Jacob and Abby.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, I don't. I don't hate it like you.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: I don't hate watch it like you do. I would
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: say I hate watch it. I just I'm not strongly invested.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: I don't really care all that much. I'm not excited
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: about these scenes. What do you what's your take on
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Danny and these scenes in this episode.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: I think Danny's thornshade. There's two notable things in this scene.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: One Jacob's talking to Danny about Abby, and he says
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: modern datying eludes me, and it makes sense that his
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: character would still use these turns of phrase that are
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: out of place in the present, but every time he
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: does it it amuses me, and then has to go
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: into this whole explanation about like, oh, I grew up
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: in a community with traditional custos blah blah blah blah blah. Okay,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: like the lies get real deep. Yeah, Danny is like
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: this is never going to work out with Lewis basically
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: like you're already on thin ice with this man. You
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: tried to burn down his vineyard, tells him not to
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: poke that bear again, and then does things always seem
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: to work out for you whatever you do.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: I kind of eloled at that line, well, and Jacob
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: does he say it after Jacob has walked away. No,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: Jacob's still standing there, doesn't react.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: No.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I wanted Jacob to be like bro I was missing
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: for twenty five years or whatever is you know, like, yeah,
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: really worked out, you know, because what's the story that?
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: What is the story? I was trying to remember, Like,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: was Jacob.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: Just yeah he was No, he was found by this
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: family who lived off the grid basically and raised.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Okay, that's what it was, Yeah, but still that's not
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: the life that he was meant. Yeah, that's a shitty comment. Yea,
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: I'm Danny. I think we have some Alice stuff going on.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Alice has decided she's definitely not going to college. Yeah,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: but she says, you know, maybe for a semester or
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: for a year, like Alice just wants some time to think.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: And I know everyone's freaking out here.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think this is unusual or crazy for a
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: eighteen year old kid all of a sudden be like, Wow,
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: this is a big life change, and I am not
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: sure I am ready for it. The number of parents
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: with kids I know who have gotten to school and
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: been like, wow, this is not what I want at all.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: You know, I think it's pretty normal.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think it's I think it's fine.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: I thought I thought it was funny how she told
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Dell first smart and yeah right, and then you know,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Kat takes it okay, but she's like, you're dead.
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, and Brady were to understand. We
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: don't see his reaction other than like he's been calling
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: me non stop, right, but doesn't take it well, which
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: is to be expected.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: You know who's missing here in this episode is Max.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: We don't hear, we don't see any continuation of their
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: big argument from last I'll speak.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: They're fighting, but we do get the Fritter King, or
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: we do get the return of the Fritter King.
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah, okay, whatever, Like he doesn't seem
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: like that to me, doesn't seem shocked or upset at all,
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: not at all. Noah doesn't seem bothered at all.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: And I'll in some ways it's easier for him because
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: she'll be closer for them to have their middle distance relationship.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah right.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: H Alice has a confrontation with Casey and starts by being.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: Like, I deferred.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: I did what you told me to do, and Casey's like, yo,
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I did not tell you to do that.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: Do not put this on me.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: And this sets off like a string of people wanting
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Casey to give them information about their future and tell
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: them how things are going to go. And he has
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: already seen this go badly with Sam, like if Sam
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: the information that he and Dell are together in the future,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and that led Sam to be like, I'm just gonna
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: weird to believe, sit back and relax and enjoreth the
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: ride because Dell and going nowhere.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: What kind of pisses me off is like, why are
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: they pressing Casey so hard for so much information? Right?
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: These are time travelers themselves who also don't share anything, right,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: so stop asking questions. They know you cannot share this information.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: But I did think it was funny because Casey comes
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: to dinner at the Landry Farm and Kat launches into
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: this whole thing about how like Elliot had stayed in
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: the past and the pod will let me go back,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: and they're just openly having this conversation with quite a
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: few people at the table about time traveling via.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: The pond, which I found amusing. Yes, it's like that's
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: just being open conversation. This is what I talked about
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: last week or the week before. I was like, Oh,
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: it seems like everything is just so open and transparent now,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: But maybe it's been like that the last four seasons
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: and I just never really clocked it before. It made
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: me laugh too.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: The button on this Alice in the present day stuff
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: is Alice and Casey have a fight on the banks
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: of the pond because Alice kind of chases Casey down
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: to the pond and Casey's done.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: She's like, it's.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Always about your problems, Alice, and fairly Alice is like, yo,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know anything about you to care about your problem, Like,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: you haven't told me anything, how can I be?
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: You know?
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: She would love to know more information about Casey and
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: then just more talking in reddles. I wanted to have
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: fun before things change. Everything is a countdown to something.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Casey jumps, cat calls Alice and Alice is like, yo,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I got the perfect trick to avoid talking to my
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: anger mom. I'm gonna jump in the pond and she does.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: And where did she go? Seventy nine? Oh, this is
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: she's watching New Year's Eve. This was my baby. Did
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: you see that? Okay, not one person's worrying a coat.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: They're outside. It's New Brunswick in December. Shouldn't it be snowy?
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: If it's scarf.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Weather in August, it should certainly be cold in November.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Wait, the same time out I thought the pond froze over,
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: and then oh, you're right, there was no like time
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: traveling in the winter time because the pond froze over.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: Right now should be freezing cold when she's wet, so hell,
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: is that working? Nice? Good time? I that doesn't what
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: And I just laughed. When they're like, oh, the eighties,
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I was like this, they're so excited for the eighties.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: In my mind, I look back at the eighties. I'm like,
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's like a personal.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I don't look at it as a time
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: to be remembered fondly.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Bad hair, bad clothes. Yeah. My husband is, He's like,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: the music is so good. I was like, Okay, there's
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: some music that's great from the eighties, but some of
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: it's really terrible too. So we always have this argument
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: in our house. But what'd you think about this? Like
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: New Year's Eve party? Whose house is it? Is it
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: at the Landry House? The new party? Is it? Coils
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: at Coils? That's right, because they're gonna close coils. Coils
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: is closing down because Jasperry is leaving. Right, Yeah, it's
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: our it's our Port Haven friends. And two randos. I
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: did say a randos like this, there's like three.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: Of them, Like when they all go to countdown, there's
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: like three people like holding up their champion glasses. Fine,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: then Alice is in partake in the countdown, she's like
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: on the circle, like not on the circle, but she's
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: like outside of they're a little thing.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Scanteak out. I hated the oh you look so young,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: but you got to give me your skin regime. Regime,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: that's not the word. You have to give me your
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: skin regimen. I'm like, nobody talks like that in nineteen
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: seventy nine.
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: Right, nobody's talking about like your skincaret. No, I know,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: the pond's cold cream and smoking.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: Like come on.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: Also, you know Evelyn is still played by the same
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: actress who has aged exactly as much as Sadie the
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Flame Snow has exactly This is seventy nine. It's five years,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: Like Alice would not have aged that much.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Right, you know, when you go to your ten year
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: class reunion, everybody still looks the same. This five years
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: is not going to make a difference. They're not gonna
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: be like, whoa why are you Benjamin buttoning? Here are
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: some takeaways from this scene for me. Colton and Dell
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: are still deep in their grief because they can't have
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: a baby. Yes, and she lost a baby, Like, okay,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: I'm being a jerk.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I would imagine that is a long process to grief,
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: particularly because they've been trying to get pregnant for a
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: long time. She finally does, they lose the baby. It's
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: been hard. Life has been hard. But I need more
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: to happen with them. Obviously this is building towards something,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: but I need something to happen. Griffin is back, and
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Gryffin's like, wants to be everyone. It's a good time guy.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: Griffin's like, I came back because Fern told me what happened,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: and I think he wants Colton to be like super appreciative, like, yeah, man,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: that was a great thing you did. And this blows
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: up in his face because Colton's like, oh, you're never around,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: Like I was the one who had to pick up
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: the pieces after dad died and all of this.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: So but let me ask you as a viewer, because
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: this is my take. I don't care anything about Griffin
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: because we don't know anything about Griffin, right, And we.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Haven't seen Colton have to do this picking up of
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: the pieces exactly. We've never seen his mother. We've only
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: seen bits and pieces of Fern being kind of cooky.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: But we just don't know enough, right. Jasper pulls out
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: some of his home videos as he's reminiscing because he's.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: What a what a fun New Year's party.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: He's gonna shut down Coils because they're gonna forgive the
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: draft Dodger. So this man with a strong Canadian accent
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: is going to return to his home in the state
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: and shut down his diner in Port Haven. At New Brunswick,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Cat shows up in I love it. I love the
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: Cat shows up because the entire theme of the show
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: is Cat's the worst time traveler ever, and she just
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: comes walking down the stairs and coiled dead center in
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: the middle of this footage. Jasper's like, isn't that your mom?
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Alice? I hate this entire scene because yes, Jasper's like,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: isn't that your mom Alice? And Alice is like no,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: And then eve He's like that I know her. She's
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: in the portrait. That's the White Witch. She saved me
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: from the thing. I was like, uh, too much, too
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: much information a person doesn't have like those kind of
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: revelations like that, there's no way. Yeah, it was a lot.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: It was reminding the viewers why Evelyn knows this woman
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: and why she's so significant.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: But I'm aware and I hated it.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, me too, and Alice tries to steal
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the footage on her way out, but doesn't do a
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: very good job, like take it with you, don't just
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: hide it in the trash can, like what are you doing?
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: And Tessa sees her steal the Does Tessa see her
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: steal it or does she see her just leave? Like
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: I can't you know what, I don't remember. There was
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: some shady eyes from Tessa at some point, like either
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: she saw Alice take the film real or saw her
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: put it in the trash can. I can't remember.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of think she just she sees her
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: before she leaves, and then Evelyn is the one who
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: follows her out and is like, why didn't you say goodbye?
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: And to me, this feels like a goodbye scene between
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Evelyn and Alice in this time period, because Alice tells
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Evelyn that you know you'll look back on these times
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: as your golden ears, because I know their mine. And
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: this was very reminiscent of enjoy the ride, stop and
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: smell the roses vibe like look around while you're living it,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: don't wish it away, which is advice that I could
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: give myself watching the sh show and your eyes are
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: darting all around the screen.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: You're like, where the clues, Where are the clues? Where
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: are the clues? Where is it leading? Yep, I don't know.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: But back in the present day, to bring it all
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: full circle, Monica's about to celebrate the forty fifth anniversary
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: of The Point because the Point opening one year after
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: coils closed, and in her box of memorabilia right on
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: top is the film real that Alice does not see.
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: She does not see it. I'm like, welcome back, Monica,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: where have you been for a season and a half? Yes, exactly.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: And finally, in the moment we've all been waiting for,
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: the piano mystery is revealed.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the repair man comes out to fix the sticky key.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Why did we just not open it up? When Elliott
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: was like, something's sticking in here? Why did you just
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: not lift the lid and take a peek?
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know enough about pianos. I don't know
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: if you could. I don't know the mechanics of it.
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: Can you just do that? Yes? Look in there. Yeah,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: if it needs fixing.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: You couldn't fix it because you see a large piece
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: of paper wrapped around a key. Yeah, you can open
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: the lid and you can look and whatever.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Let's get into why you believe this is Kat's biggest
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: buffoonery scene.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: So the man hands it to Cat, this paper. He's like, well,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: that's the that's the problem. Here's the ticket. Kat unfolds
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: this note and it is.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Like, if that's one thousand? Seriously.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: She and Alice go through it together ultimately, but it's
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: the page missing from Alice's Alice in Wonderland book, the
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: one that Tessa gave to Fern Anti Coop gave to Fern.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: And on the page that is missing, there is a
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: note from Cliff about how he's yearning.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: For a life together with Fern.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: And Kat reads this note, but the note's long, and
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I don't think Kat reads the entire thing because on
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: the other side there's a key, a legend, so to speak,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: and in the middle it says the letter that comes after,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: and around that are the words good, that just great, tried,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: be of you at if have there.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: And Kat's like maybe this is the cue to her heart.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, I never solve a mystery ever, ever,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: And I am screaming at the television. I'm like, reread
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: the letter. Kat and look for those words. It's the
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: most blatant key. There's no riddle. It's the letter that
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: comes after what's the letter that comes after the word good?
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Spell a word? Okay, you're gonna have to tell me,
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: like I'm a five year old, So let's say go back.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: We don't know the answer because I went back and
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: re listened to Kat reading, and she does not say
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: most of those words. She says a couple of them,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: like oh and you. I think Kat didn't read the
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: whole letter out loud. I think she was just like
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: skipping to the end because there are more it's on
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: the page. Then Cat read out loud. Okay, So hopefully
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: someone comes along and says, maybe this is maybe Jacob.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know who's going to come
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: along and read that, but I think they just need
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: to look at that letter.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: And find those words. And then you make a word.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know what that word's going to be. I
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: don't know either. I thought you had to figure it out. No,
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: I tried. I tried, but I'm sure there is a
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: listener who has figured it out. So email us. We
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: need to know.
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: Unless it's the words in the Alice book, which could
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: also be the case. But I assumed it was the
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: words in the letter, but it's it's the letter after
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: those words in some document that they have.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm a little lost on that part, but it
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: will be explained, I'm sure, hopefully. I think it's going
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: to be.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: It'll be like the word good, oh, there's a t,
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: the word that, oh, there's an age, the word just oh.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: After that is the let her eat and it's gonna
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: sell the big fish or something so stupid.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: Or what the key is the key? Yeah? I hate
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: these riddles. I hate them.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: We're real salty today. I apologize, folks. But that's a
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: wrap on this week's thoughts on the way home. Sorry.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: As we know, our listeners are smarter than we are,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: and they will come up with theories that are quite
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: likely stronger than ours.
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: So at the end of the week, we're gonna be like,
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: ah' oh.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I think it's very clear that I've done a lot
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: of thinking about this episode. I went back and rewatched scenes,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: I wrote down the letters from the key I really
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: listened to. I'm working hard here. I'm not phoning it in,
• 49:48
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• 50:02
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• 50:08
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• 50:13
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• 50:16
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• 50:18
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• 50:20
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