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Happy Hour #222: One for the Archives · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie Anne smitha welcome to stuff I
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  Speaker 1: Never told you question by Hurrydio, and welcome to another
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  Speaker 1: edition of Happy Hour. As always, if you choose to
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  Speaker 1: drink or whatever you choose to do, please do so responsibly. Samantha,
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  Speaker 1: are you sipping on anything not bubbly water?
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  Speaker 2: Bubbly water always keeps me happy?
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  Speaker 1: What about you? It's nice? I have I have a
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  Speaker 1: light beer? Yes, yes, yes, yes, and I opened it again.
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  Speaker 1: I managed to get the top off. Okay, don't do
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  Speaker 1: this to me, Samantha, send me spling. So for today's episode,
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  Speaker 1: I had a lot of topics I want to do.
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  Speaker 1: It's the two one in twenty second edition of Happy Hour,
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  Speaker 1: and twenty two is my favorite number, so I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to make it into something special. But every topic I
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  Speaker 1: thought of was depressing, like really depressing, not like mine
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  Speaker 1: or depressing. So I have chosen something else that is
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  Speaker 1: depressing adjacent, but it's not that bad, and it's something
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  Speaker 1: I've been thinking about since a conversation we had with Eves,
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  Speaker 1: who comes on does our female first fantastic friend, wonderful
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  Speaker 1: human and who I always find has insightful points, and
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  Speaker 1: we were chatting. I think this actually happened. You were
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  Speaker 1: having technical difficulties and so it was just me and Eves,
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  Speaker 1: and so we were just chatting until you figured whatever
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  Speaker 1: was going on out on getting yeah on your end.
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  Speaker 1: And we were chatting about essays, writing essays, which you
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  Speaker 1: know I do and I love. But we were also
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  Speaker 1: talking about archiving, and that's something that we have talked
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  Speaker 1: about on the show before because it is a historical
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  Speaker 1: show and the importance of that. But it got me
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  Speaker 1: to thinking about women in archiving, because women historically do
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  Speaker 1: most of the family archiving, family archiving, personal archiving, unpaid archiving,
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  Speaker 1: is what I'll say. And I just was thinking about
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  Speaker 1: it because our company also has recently instituted a two
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  Speaker 1: year delete like it automatically deletes your emails after two years,
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  Speaker 1: which a lot of companies have. That's a past iteration
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  Speaker 1: of who owned this podcast did it too, but they
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  Speaker 1: didn't announce it, or if they did, I didn't read
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  Speaker 1: the email. That's also possible. But I lost a lot
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  Speaker 1: of sentimental emails to me right, And I want to
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  Speaker 1: say the outset because you and I, Samanth, are different
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  Speaker 1: in this way, I believe or I'm very sentimental. I
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  Speaker 1: like to keep. I like to keep things. I'm very
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  Speaker 1: sad I lost some emails. This is like they were
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  Speaker 1: important to me and now they're gone. But I know
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  Speaker 1: it's not important to everybody. And in fact, I had
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  Speaker 1: a friend of her recently who I know it's not
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  Speaker 1: important to you, and she threw away something that I
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  Speaker 1: was keeping. I'm not a hoarder. I do have all
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  Speaker 1: that stuff, but she just threw it away.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think you're quite a hoarder, but I could
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  Speaker 2: see you be mistaken.
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  Speaker 1: Are That's fair, that's a fair point, but I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: I just if somebody gives me something it's significant to me.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'm sad that she threw it away
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  Speaker 3: because I would know not to throw things away for you,
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  Speaker 3: because what I would think it's awayable was probably not
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  Speaker 3: throw awayable.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I even like trying to go into the trash.
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  Speaker 1: That's how sad it was.
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  Speaker 2: Did you tell her?
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  Speaker 1: No? I didn't tell her. Why I tell her next time, though,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell her.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, you need to tell them at least so
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  Speaker 3: that they don't do it again. Yeah, and that they
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  Speaker 3: understand the importance. Yeah, I will know.
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  Speaker 2: If they listened to the show they now know.
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  Speaker 1: That was another topic I thought about doing was when
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  Speaker 1: it feels like you're having an argument with someone over
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  Speaker 1: the internet, like through the show, like you're airing out
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  Speaker 1: your dirty launchers through the show. No, she'll probably just
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  Speaker 1: laugh at me. That's okay. Anyway, I'm very sentimental, and
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  Speaker 1: it got me thinking about the conversation I had with
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  Speaker 1: Eves about archiving and how you don't know when things
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  Speaker 1: will go away, And it also reminded me of the
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  Speaker 1: episode you did recently, Samantha. Activists around the world about
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  Speaker 1: archiving recipes or saving recipes in case of natural disaster
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  Speaker 1: or something like that, which is also generally been done
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  Speaker 1: by women. But you just don't know when these things
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  Speaker 1: will go away. And I think we're in an interesting
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  Speaker 1: place with technology where you have the physical copy that
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  Speaker 1: could get destroyed in a hurricane. It's been storming like
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  Speaker 1: wild where Smith and I are like every day flooding,
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  Speaker 1: flash flooding. You have the physical copy that could get
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  Speaker 1: destroyed in something like that, are lost, our deteriorated, and
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  Speaker 1: then you have the digital copy that could get deleted
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  Speaker 1: because of a company policy or just because a company
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  Speaker 1: wants to take it down like you can't depend on
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  Speaker 1: either fully. So I've been trying to think of how
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  Speaker 1: I want to preserve these things. You know me, I
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  Speaker 1: also love a backup every time we record. I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: I would really like a backup. So I'm like, should
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  Speaker 1: I do both? But you have to pay for online storage,
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  Speaker 1: You have to pay to digitize things, although Eves did
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  Speaker 1: point out you can go to the library and a
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  Speaker 1: lot of them have archiving services. And growing up, my
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  Speaker 1: mom was always she was definitely the archiver of the family.
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  Speaker 1: She took the picture she put together, the photo books,
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  Speaker 1: she made, the scrap books. We each have one, and
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  Speaker 1: she would put like the sweetest details in there, and
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  Speaker 1: some of them are really embarrassing, like it's like a
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  Speaker 1: seventh grade. Her favorite song was by pod.
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  Speaker 2: In like college, So.
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  Speaker 1: It was yeah, I mean it was legitimately like but
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  Speaker 1: it's says she she put in that work. That's the
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  Speaker 1: other thing is it takes time, and it takes work
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  Speaker 1: that's often not recognized. But when you lose someone or
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, a hurricane comes and everybody's looking for
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  Speaker 1: that recipe that got destroyed, then it really matters that
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  Speaker 1: putting in that time really really matters. I used to
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  Speaker 1: do it. I think I was briefly the archiver for her,
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  Speaker 1: wherein I would like take pictures of her, or I
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  Speaker 1: would put together photo books with her and her family,
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  Speaker 1: not just like her kids, but her sisters and her brother.
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  Speaker 1: And it did take it took time, and it took effort,
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  Speaker 1: but I could tell it meant a lot to her.
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  Speaker 1: That's definitely nothing any of the men in my family
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  Speaker 1: did or would do. And there's a part of me
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  Speaker 1: that's like, that's okay. But I just think knowing you
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  Speaker 1: have to be okay with losing it or not having
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  Speaker 1: it in the first place. And because I'm someone who
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  Speaker 1: is so I'm even worried about memory loss. I'll be
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  Speaker 1: honest with you. I'm worried I won't know. I'll look
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  Speaker 1: at a picture and I won't, yeah, recognize it, so
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  Speaker 1: I label them like that, and that takes time. But
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  Speaker 1: just having the the realizing of, you know, I probably
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  Speaker 1: should be if this matters to me, which it does,
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  Speaker 1: I probably should be finding some kind of backup. But
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  Speaker 1: you can lose. I had a backup hard drive and
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  Speaker 1: I lost that too. Once I lost everything on there.
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  Speaker 1: It was awful, all at work, God, everything on there.
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  Speaker 2: So are you trying to find a solution right now?
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to either come to terms with you might
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  Speaker 1: just lose these moments or you need to find a
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  Speaker 1: solution where how much do you care about preserving these things? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's mostly where I am.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just feel everything feels uncertain and in the
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  Speaker 3: age of technology, when things are just being wiped out
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  Speaker 3: unless you have a hard copy of something, it just
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  Speaker 3: feels like inevitably when something because like I'm thinking about that,
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  Speaker 3: what with the VHS is I have so many vhss
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  Speaker 3: And yes, I have not watched the vhs in probably
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  Speaker 3: twenty twenty five years, thirty years, right, But like I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to lose them, But at the same time,
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  Speaker 3: I'm kind of scared that they're already probably destroyed somehow.
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  Speaker 3: And if they're destroyed, even though these are obviously you
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  Speaker 3: can still find these movies usually so you can, I've discovered,
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  Speaker 3: But like, it does feel sad to lose any of
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  Speaker 3: those things, any of those technologies as ever changing and
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  Speaker 3: what is what people vow you enough to have stick
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  Speaker 3: around versus not. We were talking about commercials when we would
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  Speaker 3: record a lot of things off the TV off VHS,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and people and back to the commercials and
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  Speaker 3: being like, man, yeah, those commostures were different.
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  Speaker 2: People don't know, but younger.
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  Speaker 1: Listeners just listen. We used to get these VHS tapes
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  Speaker 1: and they were like different levels of them. There were
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  Speaker 1: different qualities, and you would record your show and it
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  Speaker 1: would come with the commercials. But if you knew what
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  Speaker 1: you were doing, you could skip the commercials. However, we
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  Speaker 1: were discussing some of those commercials have become immortal because
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  Speaker 1: they do feel like such a product of a different time,
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  Speaker 1: and you're kind of glad somebody recorded it. That's the thing,
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  Speaker 1: is like that feeling of being glad someone recorded it.
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  Speaker 1: Should I be that person?
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  Speaker 3: I just watched a TikTok video about Domino's having thenoid.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, oh my gosh, Savor's doing it episode on Domino's today.
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  Speaker 2: Are you I all want to talk about the noid?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Of course it's we can't not talk about thenoid. I
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  Speaker 1: find these things interesting, Yeah, well they are. They are interesting.
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  Speaker 1: But another wrinkle in all of this is now, when
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  Speaker 1: you upload things, you don't know if companies are going
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  Speaker 1: to use it in a way you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: use it. If the pictures are going to go somewhere
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  Speaker 1: you don't want them to go, right, So it's just
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  Speaker 1: a it's another thing to take into accounts. I do
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  Speaker 1: know that I'm glad my mom took all those pictures.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah no, yeah, my mother has a scrap it for
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  Speaker 3: me and is very sentimental as well. I don't do this,
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  Speaker 3: You'll just find random pictures in different boxes. I should
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  Speaker 3: do it, I should be better at it, but it's hard,
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  Speaker 3: Like I just not. Sentimentality is not something I have
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  Speaker 3: on a deep level. There's things that I'm sentimental about,
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  Speaker 3: and I think I'm more sentimental than I think. But
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  Speaker 3: also like sentimental gets trumped by survival and that's kind
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  Speaker 3: of my emotional reaction is survival first, so sentimentality usually
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  Speaker 3: gets left behind in that conversation a whole different thing.
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  Speaker 3: But although like it is when someone does do it
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  Speaker 3: and someone is kind enough to do it for you,
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  Speaker 3: it is.
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  Speaker 2: It is very special. It's nice to see.
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  Speaker 1: It is it is. And I feel like my trauma
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  Speaker 1: response to this because somebody pointed it out three years
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  Speaker 1: ago and I was like, oh, is that. I like
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  Speaker 1: having proof that people care about me, So that's why
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  Speaker 1: I like to hold onto things because I have a
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  Speaker 1: physical I have physical proof this person cared enough to
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  Speaker 1: do X y Z. You're right x Y stupid. Note
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  Speaker 1: that to me is like precious, Like oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: so just I mean, it has those layers of it
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  Speaker 1: of like why people hold onto things or why they don't,
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  Speaker 1: but I yeah, that it's definitely something that I know
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  Speaker 1: about myself somebody. I want to keep this because it's
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  Speaker 1: proof this person cared about me and they in finded
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  Speaker 1: me to this thing or whatever. Yeah. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what it was for my mom other than maybe she
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  Speaker 1: just felt like she had to. I'm sure she wanted to,
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  Speaker 1: but also she might have felt like she had to,
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  Speaker 1: But she really put a lot of work into the
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  Speaker 1: scrap books she made. Mine would be much more haphazard.
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  Speaker 1: It's just like I don't take nearly as many pictures
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  Speaker 1: anymore either.
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  Speaker 3: I've had to since doing the Zumba thing. I have
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  Speaker 3: now become even more so online because of the Zooma stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and feel like I have to promote myself.
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  Speaker 2: I despise it though.
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  Speaker 1: Well that's yet another layer to this whole thing, is
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  Speaker 1: how will it look in the future when there's a
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  Speaker 1: female first podcast. Perhaps happening, and they'd look back on
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  Speaker 1: social media and the story you tell through social media.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, that's just something that's been on my mind.
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  Speaker 1: I also really need to go get my will done.
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  Speaker 1: Not to sound too but I've been thinking about this too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, life sucks.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, that was like my attempt at the least sad
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  Speaker 1: idea I had.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say it's successful, but it was not
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  Speaker 3: as bad as it could have been.
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  Speaker 1: Well, thank you, thank you very very much. Well, we
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  Speaker 1: do have some good news here at the end, though, okay,
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