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Hour 3: Maria Bartiromo is out at FOX. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Now, the Mark Simone Show on 710WOR. Filling in for Mark,
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  Speaker 1: here's Ken Rosado.
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  Speaker 2: So nice to be with you on a Friday. This
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  Speaker 2: is the hour three of the new three-hour Mark Simone Show,
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  Speaker 2: now nine to noon Monday through Friday for those who
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  Speaker 2: are haven't listened in a month or two and you
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  Speaker 2: don't realize, Hey, you're on three hours a day, Mark Simone.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I wish I were Mark Simone, the great Mark Simone
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  Speaker 2: enjoying the day off, but this is Ken Rosato and
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  Speaker 2: very proud to be sitting in the seat, keeping it
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  Speaker 2: warm for Mark till he is back on Monday. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: just so much happening in the news right now. If, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you've basically landed on earth in the last, uh, uh,
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  Speaker 2: day or so we have, of course, two major stories
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  Speaker 2: happening at this hour. Apparently the, uh, Well, actually three
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  Speaker 2: big stories. For those of you who were in Manhattan
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  Speaker 2: trying to get to Brooklyn this morning, you saw what happened.
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  Speaker 2: The Brooklyn Bridge was actually shut down for like four
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  Speaker 2: or five hours. And that is because there was an
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  Speaker 2: alleged emotionally disturbed man on the Brooklyn-bound Brooklyn Bridge close
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  Speaker 2: to Manhattan. And this happened, I guess, about 3 or
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  Speaker 2: 3.30 in the morning. It initially happened where someone called
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  Speaker 2: police saying there was an emotionally disturbed person with a knife.
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  Speaker 2: And this was by South and Dover streets in Manhattan.
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  Speaker 2: And apparently police showed up at about 4 o'clock, 3.30,
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  Speaker 2: 4 o'clock. They closed the bridge at about 4.15. It
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  Speaker 2: remained closed till 8.30 this morning. Of course, you can
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  Speaker 2: imagine the traffic. But police went up to the man.
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  Speaker 2: And according to the allegations, the reports we have right now,
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  Speaker 2: the man confronted the police and then charged at them
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  Speaker 2: with a knife. And police shot him. And the man
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  Speaker 2: is deceased. So that is the latest. It was under investigation.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, whenever something like that happens, they have to
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  Speaker 2: take measurements, pictures, et cetera. So they had to shut
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  Speaker 2: down the Brooklyn Bridge this morning. And that, of course,
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  Speaker 2: wreaked havoc. In spite of the fact that traffic is
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  Speaker 2: lighter than usual or was at that hour because of
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  Speaker 2: the holiday weekend. And it was so early. Nonetheless, it
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  Speaker 2: still caused an absolute mess of traffic. near the Brooklyn Bridge.
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  Speaker 2: Police again resolving that. We'll get more when the police
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  Speaker 2: release the details of their investigation. 800-321-0710.
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  Speaker 3: 800-321-0710.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the other big stories today. We're going to
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  Speaker 2: talk about the Clancy trial. So, Lindsey Clancy, this morning,
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  Speaker 2: the judge sent the jury back to deliberate. It comes
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  Speaker 2: down to one person of the 12 on the jury
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  Speaker 2: panel who's holding out. But the judge does not feel
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  Speaker 2: that the person is in any way not paying attention
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  Speaker 2: to the rules and the law. And so the judge
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  Speaker 2: sent them all back to deliberate and says, listen, go
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  Speaker 2: at it. You're the jury. Apparently, the defense attorney was
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  Speaker 2: upset that the judge would not remove the one juror.
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  Speaker 2: But as we had attorney Imran Ansari on about half
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  Speaker 2: an hour ago, and he talked about the fact that, look,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there's 12 jurors. Each one of the 12
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  Speaker 2: is co-equal. And whether it's one or three or five
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  Speaker 2: that are holding it up, everybody has the same co-equal power.
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  Speaker 2: And you need to have a unanimous decision in order
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  Speaker 2: to convict or acquit. And in this case, you have
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  Speaker 2: one person holding out. But whether you have one or seven, well,
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter. Because with our jury system, you have
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  Speaker 2: to have unanimity. And we don't have that right now.
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  Speaker 2: So one person is holding out. If the person is
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  Speaker 2: violating the rules and not paying attention to the judge's orders,
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  Speaker 2: that's different. But if they're following all the rules and
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  Speaker 2: they have justification in why they're reaching their decision and
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  Speaker 2: what they're discussing, then so be it. That's the way
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  Speaker 2: the system works. A lot of people believing that the
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  Speaker 2: jury will remain deadlocked for the day and that there
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  Speaker 2: will probably be a mistrial and everybody will have to
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  Speaker 2: start again. Well, they wouldn't be the same jury. But
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  Speaker 2: the defense and the prosecution would have to start all
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  Speaker 2: over again. We'll see what happens. But again, the prosecutor
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  Speaker 2: says if, in fact, it is a mistrial or a
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  Speaker 2: hung jury, not a mistrial, excuse me, clarification, go back,
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  Speaker 2: rewind the tape, not a mistrial, a hung jury. If
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  Speaker 2: it is a hung jury, the prosecutor saying that, in fact,
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  Speaker 2: they would likely go back and do it all over again.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 3: 800-321-0710, 800-321-0710.
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  Speaker 2: We've had some amazing callers, by the way, about it.
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  Speaker 2: Very clear. A lot of people have done a lot
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  Speaker 2: of research who know what they're talking about. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: very impressed by the callers we've had. Everybody with passion.
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  Speaker 2: Bottom line that we have here at the end of
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  Speaker 2: the day, three little ones, three little innocent children were murdered.
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  Speaker 2: And it comes down to the mother deserves some kind
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  Speaker 2: of punishment. Does she deserve life in prison without parole?
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  Speaker 2: Does she deserve life in prison with the chance of parole?
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  Speaker 2: Does she deserve up to 20 years, which would be manslaughter?
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  Speaker 2: Does she deserve to be sentenced to a mental institution?
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  Speaker 2: And it all depends. So we'll see what the jury says.
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  Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are citing in the
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  Speaker 2: vicinity of manslaughter from the legal and non-legal experts that
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  Speaker 2: I've talked to. A lot of people come down to
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  Speaker 2: the feeling of that kind of satisfies their feeling for
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  Speaker 2: the death of those kids. And they were murdered. They
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  Speaker 2: didn't just fall and hit their heads. Their mother murdered them.
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  Speaker 2: And not to say that postpartum, if it is, again,
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  Speaker 2: this isn't postpartum depression, it's postpartum psychosis we're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Not to say it is not a real thing. It
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  Speaker 2: is a real thing. It is a real diagnosis. The
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  Speaker 2: question is, did she actually have postpartum psychosis? And that's
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  Speaker 2: what the jury is trying to determine right now. 800-321-0710. Again,
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  Speaker 2: we were talking earlier also about Maria Bartiromo. Very nice lady.
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  Speaker 2: When she was at CNBC, they used to call her
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  Speaker 2: the money honey. Remember, she was the first person to
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  Speaker 2: broadcast live from the floor of the stock exchange. Back
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  Speaker 2: when the floor of the stock exchange was the epicenter
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  Speaker 2: of business for the whole world, basically. Today, a lot
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  Speaker 2: of the stock trades, most of them, are done electronically.
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  Speaker 2: But back then, For those of you who are of
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  Speaker 2: a certain age like me, I'm almost 60. Back then,
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  Speaker 2: in order to trade stocks, you had people on the floors,
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  Speaker 2: mostly guys. You had guys on the floor holding cards
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  Speaker 2: up in the air like, you know, $ 20, $ 20. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, it was like an auction. And that's what
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  Speaker 2: the trading floor was. It wasn't electronic like it is today.
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  Speaker 2: But she was there when there was the cacophony and
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  Speaker 2: the nuttiness of being on the floor to broadcast live
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  Speaker 2: with the equipment. And there weren't, there wasn't a lot
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  Speaker 2: of remote equipment. So everything had to be hardwired and
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  Speaker 2: big lights and And she did it back then when
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  Speaker 2: it was the stock exchange. So she made a name
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  Speaker 2: for herself and a big name she did to broadcast
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  Speaker 2: with all that craziness around you and be able to
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  Speaker 2: keep a straight face and speak with knowledge and experience
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  Speaker 2: and listen to questions of people asking you questions from
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  Speaker 2: back of the desk. She's amazing. That's where she proved herself.
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  Speaker 2: Maria Bartiromo, certainly the, if not the preeminent, certainly one
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  Speaker 2: of the preeminent business reporters of our time. And Fox
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  Speaker 2: News terminated her yesterday. And I can just say from
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  Speaker 2: the times I've met Maria, she's one of the nicest,
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  Speaker 2: most down-to-earth, most humble humans you will ever meet. She's
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  Speaker 2: a lovely person. I'm sick to my stomach that she's
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  Speaker 2: gone because I like Fox News and I like Maria Bartiromo.
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  Speaker 2: And like many of you, I'm sad to see this happen.
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  Speaker 2: From a company perspective, if what the allegations are are correct,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll get into that a little bit in a moment,
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  Speaker 2: You can understand why Fox News would do what they did.
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  Speaker 2: The allegation being that she basically tipped off the White
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  Speaker 2: House or shared with the White House information that is
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  Speaker 2: a corporate propriety that was discussion and internal email in
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  Speaker 2: Fox News regarding Smartmatic and Dominion voting machines and President
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  Speaker 2: Trump's unfounded allegations that they were basically hacked or that
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  Speaker 2: there was, you know, unfairness in the election regarding those machines. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if the president wants to say that, that's fine,
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  Speaker 2: but all the networks don't have to air that. They
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  Speaker 2: could choose to do so or not to do so
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  Speaker 2: or to air it with a disclaimer. And you can understand,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the companies sued Fox News and Fox News
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  Speaker 2: ended up settling three quarters of a billion dollars, more
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  Speaker 2: than that, They ended up paying Dominion. And you can
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  Speaker 2: understand why they were smarting from that. They didn't want
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  Speaker 2: any more of that. And so when they see the
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  Speaker 2: president having an opportunity to speak to the country, going
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  Speaker 2: in the direction of talking about alleging once again that
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  Speaker 2: the voting machines were hacked or that there was some
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  Speaker 2: kind of impropriety with the voting through the Dominion voting system,
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  Speaker 2: which he had no basis for, you can understand why
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  Speaker 2: the network is now sensitive to that. And when they
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  Speaker 2: talk internally about stuff like that, they want it kept internally.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the other perspective. It is a company's perspective.
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  Speaker 2: You sign a contract with a broadcasting institution and they're
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  Speaker 2: paying you a lot of money. They expect you to
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  Speaker 2: follow the rules. And, you know, it's not unusual for
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  Speaker 2: them to say any information in-house, you keep in-house. You know,
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  Speaker 2: what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, that kind of
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  Speaker 2: a deal. And if it goes outside and we find
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  Speaker 2: out that it was you, well, you could be subject
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  Speaker 2: to termination and That's in your contract when you sign it.
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  Speaker 2: So you can understand Fox's.
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  Speaker 3: Side of it.
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  Speaker 2: Again, overall, I'm just sad to see it happen because
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  Speaker 2: I think Marie is great. And I think Fox News
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  Speaker 2: does a yeoman's job. My friends who are liberal love
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  Speaker 2: to say, that conservative right-wing Fox News is so slanted.
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  Speaker 2: And I say to them, what part of it is slanted?
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  Speaker 2: Because if you look at the news people on Fox News,
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  Speaker 2: they're not. They're as down the middle as anybody else.
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  Speaker 2: they're a separate division. There's Fox Entertainment, like the morning
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  Speaker 2: show and the night shows are not news. They're entertainment.
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  Speaker 2: That doesn't mean what they talk about isn't true, but
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  Speaker 2: they can give opinion because they're not under the guise
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  Speaker 2: and the auspices of Fox News. They are a separate
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  Speaker 2: division within Fox. So that's why the morning show could say,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we're hoping that President Trump continues to win
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  Speaker 2: this and that. They could say that, And still, they're
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  Speaker 2: not news anchors, but the news anchors keep it generic,
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  Speaker 2: keep it right down the middle when they are delivering
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  Speaker 2: the news. Oh, Ken, that's not true. Well, I defy you.
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  Speaker 2: I could, I could, I've had this debate with people
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  Speaker 2: and I've taken excerpts from the news and said, look,
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  Speaker 2: here are the 10 stories they did and the 10
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  Speaker 2: stories CNN did. And look, Fox actually sounded more liberal
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  Speaker 2: than CNN in that case when doing the news. Doing
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  Speaker 2: the news is different from doing the opinion and the
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  Speaker 2: morning show and like Sean Hannity and, and Laura Ingram,
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  Speaker 2: they are giving opinion and that's what they're hired for.
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  Speaker 2: It's not that there's something wrong with that. That's exactly
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  Speaker 2: what their job is. So it's okay. But, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they are conservative, but they admit there, they, they acknowledge
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  Speaker 2: they're being conservative. Unfortunately, you have many of the so-called
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  Speaker 2: mainstream media outlets who for years have tried to pretend
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  Speaker 2: that they were mainstream and centrist when they were not.
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  Speaker 2: having been in the newsrooms of a number of different companies,
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  Speaker 2: and there isn't one who's an exception, I know the
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  Speaker 2: people who I was surrounded with and what their political
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  Speaker 2: leanings were. And it came across on the air based
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  Speaker 2: on what they wanted covered or not covered. I always
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  Speaker 2: say it's a sin of omission, not a sin of commission.
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  Speaker 2: When you see certain news outlets just totally ignoring something
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  Speaker 2: that might be pro-Trump or anti-liberal, And they just refused
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  Speaker 2: to cover the story like mainstream media. Never, ever, ever
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  Speaker 2: covering the fact. You just don't have them covering when
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  Speaker 2: illegal migrants are responsible for the injury or death of individuals.
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  Speaker 2: They'll cover it as just an injury or a death,
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  Speaker 2: but fail to mention that the person was illegal because
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  Speaker 2: they believe it has no bearing. Yeah, it does have
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  Speaker 2: a bearing because if they weren't here to begin with,
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  Speaker 2: which they shouldn't have been, then it would have never happened.
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  Speaker 2: As a taxpaying citizen, I have a right to be
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  Speaker 2: protected by my elected officials and by the police. But
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  Speaker 2: if you refuse to let the police work with ICE
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  Speaker 2: and protect me from somebody who shouldn't be here because,
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  Speaker 2: by definition, they're an invader, well, then you're at fault.
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  Speaker 2: If something happens to me, I'm going to blame you.
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  Speaker 2: But these elected officials are protected by the law from that,
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  Speaker 2: and they hide behind it, pretending to be compassionate, like
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  Speaker 2: Kathy Hochul, in making New York State a compassionate blue
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  Speaker 2: state that is a sanctuary state, welcoming to all. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: except for Kathy, people who shouldn't be here legally. And
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  Speaker 2: we're not saying that you should have police pick up
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  Speaker 2: the phone and turn them in. But when ICE agents
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  Speaker 2: come and say, listen, that person who's in court right
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  Speaker 2: now being tried on a state charge, when you are
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  Speaker 2: done with them, we want to take them and deport them.
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  Speaker 2: But your people instead are ordered not to notify ICE
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  Speaker 2: or not to retain these individuals who are criminals. That's
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  Speaker 2: on you, Kathy Hochul. And anybody who gets hurt or
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  Speaker 2: dies as a result should be on you. And I
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  Speaker 2: hope you don't sleep well at night for those individuals
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  Speaker 2: who might be injured or worse at the result of
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  Speaker 2: your negligence. Because the fact is a majority of the
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  Speaker 2: states in this country do work with ICE. They work
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  Speaker 2: just fine with ICE. As a result, those states have
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  Speaker 2: lower murder rates. Isn't that amazing? Those states have lower
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  Speaker 2: felony rates. Those states have lower rape rates. Do you
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  Speaker 2: think it's just a coincidence, Kathy Hochul?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it has something to do with the criminality of
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  Speaker 2: people who, by virtue of coming here without permission, coming
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  Speaker 2: across the border without permission, by virtue of that, maybe
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  Speaker 2: they are willing to commit other crimes because they don't
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  Speaker 2: have respect for the most basic rules that we have,
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  Speaker 2: such as coming in legally.
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  Speaker 4: 800-321-7000.
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  Speaker 3: 0-7-10-800-321-0710.
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  Speaker 2: We want to know what you have to say about that.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to take your calls coming up next. Ken
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  Speaker 2: Rosato in on the Friday of Memorial Day. No, it's not.
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  Speaker 2: It's Labor Day weekend. I knew I was going to
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  Speaker 2: slip once today. Friday of Labor Day weekend, 710WOR.
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  Speaker 1: Now, 9 till noon weekdays. The Mark Simone Show on 710WOR.
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  Speaker 1: Guest hosting for Mark today. Here's Ken Rosato.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to go to our calls in just a second.
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  Speaker 2: I just want to point out two things. We've been
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  Speaker 2: talking about Maria Bartiromo and Fox. And John Solomon, I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure you've seen him on Fox News before. He owns
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  Speaker 2: Solomon Reports. Well, he just texted out, he tweeted or
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  Speaker 2: X'd out that, quote, the reports that Maria Bartiromo was fired,
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  Speaker 2: he put in quotes, are not true. She remains under
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  Speaker 2: contract with Fox News and receiving her pay until 2029.
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  Speaker 2: She has been removed from air and won't return, but
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  Speaker 2: she continues to remain with Fox at present under the
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  Speaker 2: pay or play provision of a contract, which is common
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  Speaker 2: in television. So yeah, we call that the non-compete. So
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  Speaker 2: I guess as long as she... I guess in order
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  Speaker 2: to keep her away from competitors, they still have her
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  Speaker 2: under contract and they continue to pay her her salary
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  Speaker 2: until 2029. I don't know that Fox is going to
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  Speaker 2: want to actually do that the entirety of the time.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of times they settle for an amount and
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  Speaker 2: they say, we'll cut ties, we'll give you this flat
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  Speaker 2: amount and you go your way and we go our way.
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  Speaker 2: That's more than likely going to happen because... There are
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  Speaker 2: all sorts of rumors that she's making anywhere from $ 4
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  Speaker 2: to $ 8 million a year. And if I'm Fox, do
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  Speaker 2: I want to keep paying somebody that amount to keep
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  Speaker 2: them off the air? Depends. I mean, she is who
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  Speaker 2: she is. Maria Bartiromo is amazing. But we'll see what happens.
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  Speaker 2: That is from one person. That's from John Solomon. And
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  Speaker 2: one other quick story before we go to our calls.
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  Speaker 2: I thought this was interesting. Would you like to make
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  Speaker 2: $ 50 an hour? All right. So he's nodding his head.
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  Speaker 2: So there is a restaurant. in San Francisco that is
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  Speaker 2: offering $ 50 an hour for a dishwasher. You heard right.
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  Speaker 2: They're offering $ 50. This is a real story. Apparently this
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  Speaker 2: restaurant can't get somebody to work the 8 p.m. to
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  Speaker 2: 4 a.m. overnight shift on the weekends. That's how tough
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  Speaker 2: it is. It is a Vietnamese restaurant and they are
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  Speaker 2: in San Francisco. And I guess the cost of living
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  Speaker 2: is so high there. That's what they pay, but they're
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  Speaker 2: paying for real. They're looking for somebody who has a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of restaurant experience who will be a dishwasher.
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  Speaker 2: And because the tech sector has laid off so many
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  Speaker 2: people in San Francisco, most of the applicants are people
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  Speaker 2: who are like coding experts wanting to come in and
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  Speaker 2: make 50 bucks an hour scrubbing dishes. The catch is
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  Speaker 2: you have to be able to do it faster than
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  Speaker 2: the owner. And if you look online, he could like
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  Speaker 2: scrub 100 dishes in a second. So if you could
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  Speaker 2: do it faster than him, you come in, you got
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  Speaker 2: a $ 50 an hour job.
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  Speaker 4: There you go.
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  Speaker 2: 800-321-0710, 800-321-0710. Let us go to Josh in Westchester County. Josh,
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  Speaker 2: good morning.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Ken. And listen, we're glad you're on, filling
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  Speaker 3: in for Mark. That's a great duo. It's a tandem,
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  Speaker 3: a dynamic duo. But the thing is, I'm an old
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: Bronx boy, and I think you're an old new rock
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: and shell guy. I am. And yeah, that's good. It's very,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: you know, you know, kind of similar. A lot of
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: people would move to Yonkers and Michelle from the Bronx.
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: But before I get.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: To Clancy and what I want to talk about, I
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: want to say something that'll lead to Clancy. Like it
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: was 50 years ago that that, that maniac son of Sam,
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: David Berkowitz was running around murdering young people in Brooklyn,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Queens and the Bronx. And he originally, people don't realize this.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: He originally pleaded insanity to, But it was seven months
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: that he was held at a Brooklyn psych ward. And
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: just before they were supposed to go to trial, he
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: changed his plea to guilty so there was no trial.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Because he was in that psych ward for seven months,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: and he really isn't crazy. I mean, there is something
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: wrong when we know that. But he knew what he
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: was doing. He wanted no part of a psychiatric ward,
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: and he destroyed those families. David Berkowitz destroyed those families.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: And the victims of David Berkowitz, the son of Sam,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: they will always be remembered. He killed some really good
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: young kids. Unfortunately, society, we accept this. I don't accept it,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: but people accept this. It just goes on like what
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: happened to the lady Monday at Times Square. And getting
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: to Clancy, listen, if she knew... What she was doing,
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: it got told by her husband to get out of here,
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: to go to the store, to go to the pharmacy
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: and plan this whole thing. I think she's it's first
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: degree murder. That's what it is to me. But I
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: would have to follow Massachusetts law. And there is a
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: legal definition of insanity. And also, let's face it, she
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: loses either way. She's going to go into a state
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: jail prison in Massachusetts and people who her children are
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: not welcome in state criminal prisons. And if she goes
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: to a psych ward and she's really not that crazy,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: it's not going to be a comfortable place to be there.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: But let's hope they keep her there for like three decades. Yeah.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: You know, Josh, can I just... And I'll do dialogue
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: i'm not going to hang up on you i just
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: um the one thing that that comes to mind though
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: is the fact that she tried to kill herself um
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: suggests the mental instability there so yeah you know maybe
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: you could say well it was after the fact you
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: know she here she already killed her children she saw
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: what now she was facing so now she attempted So
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: that's the only thing for me that suggests the mental instability.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: That does not, in my mind, though, condone you from
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: killing the children. But I do believe that there was
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: mental instability there of some kind. And we had the
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: caller earlier from the Carolinas who was saying– I believe
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: her name was Kathy– who was saying that it is
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: possible to be mentally unstable even when making a decision
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: to send your husband to do whatever, that you can be.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: But again, even she said that she deserves manslaughter. So–
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Where would you come down? What do you think it's
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: going to end up?
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: Again, I would have to follow Massachusetts state criminal law
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: because every 50 states are all different, plus the commonwealth.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: But the thing is, the problem I have is if
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: she knew what she was doing and she killed the
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: baby last because she knew one of the two older
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: ones might have been able to run out and start
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: screaming and draw attention to this, all right? Right. So
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: I have to sit on it. But to me, it
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: looks like if it's a murder convict, it's first degree.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Because she planned the whole thing out, getting the guy
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: out of the house. And she was also going to
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: her phone, seeing what the distance was to that restaurant
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: that they never used, which was further away from the
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: one they usually use to take out.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Pause you. Pause you. We got breaking news. Mistrial declared
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: in Lindsay Clancy trial just came out. Fox News is
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: saying jury deadlocked. MS now is saying mistrial declared. So,
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: all right, we will get, and yeah, and CNN now
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: saying Clancy judge will declare mistrial, giving defense one hour
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: to appeal for stay. So there you go. We'll see where,
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: so this may have to do it all over again.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: We'll see where that goes. Josh, I appreciate the call.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: And now, of course, now we toss that just as
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: now she has to go get all new news again.
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: But Daria Albinger has the news. Good morning, Daria. Well,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I am happy to have a co-anchor in these situations, Ken.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Thanks for updating us on that.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: The Mark Simone Show, live from the WOR LifeVac studios.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Guest hosting for Mark today, here's Ken Rosato.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: And it is good to be with you. Once again,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: we have breaking news. If you didn't catch it right
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: before our break, a judge has declared a mistrial or
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: is about to declare a mistrial, we should say, in
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: the Clancy trial. He is staying the case for an
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: hour to give. Basically, when you do a one-hour stay,
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: it pauses the ruling for an hour, giving the opposing
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: party time to file an emergency appeal case. before the
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: court officially legalizes the dismissal or releases the defendant. So
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: that is what is happening. So there has been a
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: mistrial declared, but pending the one-hour stay. We'll see what
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: happens at the one-hour stay. It is not likely to
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: make any difference here. It'll be a mistrial, which means
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: that the whole thing is going to be Have to
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: be done over again with a different jury because the
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: prosecution already said that they will retry the case if this,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: in fact, ends up happening. So we'd love to know
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: what you have to say about it. 800-321-0710. 800-321-0710. 710WOR,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: The Voice of New York. This is Ken Rosato in
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: for Mark. And the Labor Day holiday weekend is here.
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: And you are going to get to a point where
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: you are just tired of having your 19th hot dog.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: and uncle Joe's hamburgers. It tastes like lighter fluid. And, uh,
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: and you know, you have that uncle Joe. I, you know,
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I'm looking at the people in the booth. They're all
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: laughing because they've had that burger. And you take one
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: bite and they're like, how's the burger? It tastes like crap. Oh,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: this is delicious. Just delicious. It's raw. And it's a nasty.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: All right. So you will want to instead go catch
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: the movies and a guy who knows more about the
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: movies than anyone. I know Roger Friedman of showbiz four
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: one one here with some ideas of what to check out. Also,
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: by the way, I check out your site all the time.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: You also do a lot on news that's happening. So
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: before we get to the movies, what do you think
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: about this trial?
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: You know, I.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: Feel like if you kill your three children, you should
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: go to jail. I mean, even for a week. I
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: don't understand how you could not. But I guess there's
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: a lot of sympathy for her. And, you know, maybe
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: she'll get out of it completely. But don't you agree?
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I totally agree.
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: I mean, if you kill even one child, I think
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: you go to jail. By the time you got to
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: the third one, that's it.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: We had a woman called from North Carolina. I don't
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: know if she's a lawyer or not, but she sure
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: sounds like it. And she was talking about, even she,
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: she was saying how some people were just saying, oh,
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: she deserves a death penalty, even though she can't get
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: it in Massachusetts. But the woman did say, when all
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: was said and done, she said, I think she deserves
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: to be convicted of manslaughter. And that would be up
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: to 20 years behind bars. And that kind of makes
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: sense to me because now that takes into account the psychosis.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: And I think that's sort of a charge or conviction, rather,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: that a lot of people would have accepted. But this
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: is kind of a surprise, I think, with the amount
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: of evidence, don't you?
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: Well, with the amount of evidence and also that she's
• 25:14
  Speaker 5: sitting there in a wheelchair, which makes her very sympathetic.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: um and i feel bad for her about the wheelchair
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: but it's too bad i'm sure there's wheelchair it's handicap
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: accessible in jail um and the other thing is they
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: keep saying that there's one juror who's causing the problem
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: is that it.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah apparently that was the case we'll know more i'm
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: sure because that person is now free to talk to
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: the media they don't have to but they're right and
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: you know that person is going to come and talk
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: at some point.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah they'll someone will pay them for their story
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: um No, so, you know, it'll make a great movie
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: one day. These are the kinds of things that used
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: to make great movies of the week on TV.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Remember those movies of the week?
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: I sure did. And, of course, Roger Friedman of Showbiz411,
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: always going there. That was the best segue ever, Roger.
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you very much. Let's talk about it then.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: A couple of things happened. First of all, in the
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: box office— Spider-Man crossing $ 900 million today. Even as we speak.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: It's happening right now.
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: But it's a great film.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: But I mean, to get to a billion dollars for
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: a domestic film, people will have had to have seen
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: it two or three times. So there must be people
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: who have even seen it more than that. But they
• 26:33
  Speaker 5: do love it. And it is really good. And it's
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: really been a phenomenon all summer. But just like the Odyssey,
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: the Odyssey actually is going back into IMAX theaters and
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: is picking up box office and heading towards $ 600 million.
• 26:49
  Speaker 5: which is incredible for a three-hour movie based on a
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: poem from 3,000 years ago.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: And a little poetic interpretation, the way they did the movie.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: But nonetheless, you know what I'm really happy about The
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Odyssey doing so well? Because the director took so much
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: painstaking time in shooting the way he shot it and
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: getting the special machine so you don't hear the noise
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: with it. I mean, to go through that effort and
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: spend all that money, you want there to be a reward. Otherwise,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: it would die with him. You know, it would never
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: be done again. Now we might see some amazingly shot films.
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: I think it'll encourage studios and filmmakers to really try
• 27:29
  Speaker 5: and do unusual things. We're going to see, the Odyssey
• 27:33
  Speaker 5: is going to, I'm getting all this, you know, we
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: start to get pelted now around.
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Labor Day with Oscar information.
• 27:39
  Speaker 5: What's coming for the fall, what's going to win awards,
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: what's going to be nominated. But really, The Odyssey is
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: going to win everything next March. I can't imagine that
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: it'll take on fewer than 10 Oscars. It's just really
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: the film of the year. So that's very exciting. Coyote vs.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: Acme is my favorite movie right now.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: And you haven't gone to see that yet.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: No, I have not. But I am going to check
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: it out because you just said you love it.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: No, I love it. And people who see it love it.
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: You know, the story about this movie was that Warner
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: Brothers canceled after it was made. They looked at it
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: and said, no, we're going to put it on the shelf,
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: take a tax write-off, and you'll never see it again.
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: And a huge campaign started to revive it.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: And finally, this very little.
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: Company called Ketchup Entertainment found $ 50 million and paid Warner
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: Brothers so that they could release it. And today it's
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: at $ 22 million after just a week. It's going to
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: earn this money back easily. And it's so much fun.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: It's really a great movie. And it's like Who Framed
• 28:46
  Speaker 5: Roger Rabbit. You know, it's live action, and then it's animation.
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: And the live action people, that cast is led by
• 28:56
  Speaker 5: Will Forte and John Cena, because the Wile E. Coyote
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: sues the Acme Company for all the... things that they've
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: sold him that have not helped blow up the Roadrunner.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: And it's great. I keep joking.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: I keep joking that best actor is going to, they're
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: fighting Roadrunner and Wiley Cotter fighting over who's going to
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: be best actor and who's going to be supporting out there. And,
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: of course, Bugs Bunny has a big part in the movie,
• 29:26
  Speaker 5: and it's sort of the showstopper. But it's just really
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: so much fun, and with all the stuff going on
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: around us in the world, we need a little fun,
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: and this is it.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I agree. Hey, listen, on Showbiz 411. you also write
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: about George Michael, the Faith Tour concert film. I think
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: George Michael was one of the more impressive musicians of
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: our time and just did not get a lot of
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: the applause that he deserved because he was successful with
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: certain groups of people, but not everyone. But he wrote
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: his music. He sang great. He was a very talented person.
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he was very talented.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: And I think also he undermined himself because he had
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: so many drug problems and arrests and things like that.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: And his career sort of wound up being more about
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: scandal than being music.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Sadly.
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: Sadly.
• 30:20
  Speaker 5: But this concert film is really great. And I think
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: it's coming out. This week or next week is coming soon.
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: And I think just like how Michael Jackson's movie has
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: done so well, I think you're going to see a
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: lot of people sort of all of a sudden say, oh,
• 30:37
  Speaker 5: I love all these songs from George Michael.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: So that's going to do very well, I think.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: I agree with you there. I really think so, too.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I'll be checking it out for sure. And then, of course,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: over on CBS Mornings, Nora O'Donnell is going to be
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: joining the show with Gayle King. I know Gayle King.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: I've never met Nora, but I think she's a phenomenal anchor.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: What do you think about the pairing?
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: Well, it's a strange time at CBS, you know, how
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: this all started. Nora O'Donnell was anchoring the CBS Evening
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: News a year and a half ago, and then they
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: pulled her off and gave it to those two guys.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: Tony DeCoppo. Oh, no, you mean Maurice Dubois, who's also,
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: by the way, an extremely nice man. I know him well.
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, they both are. They both are.
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: But the show that they gave them was very poorly produced.
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: Nobody watched it.
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: And then Nora O'Donnell was sort of cut loose within CBS,
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: and she was doing pieces on 60 Minutes and didn't
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: seem to know what she was doing. And in the interim,
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: there's been all these other changes. So now she's going
• 31:41
  Speaker 5: to join Gayle King, and we'll see what happens. Gayle
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: King and Nora O'Donnell hosting a show together would have
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: been like Barbara Walters and Diane Sawyer at the same
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: time in the old days.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: They were very competitive. Yes, I can imagine. As you said,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: and I'm laughing, having worked with them both.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And I don't think Gayle, to tell you the truth,
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: is too pleased with this.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Gayle. There was nowhere— Gail, listen, if
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I may, Gail will be the queen bee on the set.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: She won't let anyone else not be. But at the
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: same time, as long as you understand that you are,
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: you are the Gail, that is Gail's show you're coming into,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: everything will be great. If there is any kind of attitude.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: On the set.
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: I don't understand that. I don't know.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: As long as she's getting a check.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: Hey, listen, when I joined.
• 32:32
  Speaker 5: She moved to Washington. She moved to Washington to do
• 32:35
  Speaker 5: the news. And then now she's had to move back here,
• 32:38
  Speaker 5: which is really crazy.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Cause listen, if I may, when I, when I joined
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: the set on channel seven with Laurie Stokes, I knew
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: that I was joining Laurie Stokes's show. And I remember
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: the general manager saying, no, you are co-equal anchors. And
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: I thought to myself, I am not. First of all,
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: I respected Laurie Stokes more. So I, I acknowledge that
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: she was there first and that she was a great anchor.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: And guess what? Day one, when I deferred to Lori,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: we became best friends thereafter because I respect her. And
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: I think that's got to, you have to have that
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: mutual respect. And we've been friends, like I said, 25
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: years as a result. So let's see if that happens.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: Well, we love Lori Stokes.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, we do.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: And you're absolutely right.
• 33:16
  Speaker 5: But I don't know how this will play out on CBS.
• 33:19
  Speaker 5: But everything at CBS right now is up in the air.
• 33:21
  Speaker 5: They're going to have a whole new kind of 60
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: Minutes starting very shortly, you know, Within the next couple
• 33:27
  Speaker 5: of weeks.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: I think in this era they should lower it, make
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: it 57 and a half minutes and see if they
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: can save a couple of bucks in the process. They
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: might as well at this point. Roger Friedman, we're out
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: of time. I could talk to you all day about
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: this stuff. Roger Friedman of Showbiz411. If you haven't checked
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: out the website, where have you been? Just spell it out, showbiz411. com.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: He has everything up there, everything entertainment and news. We
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: thank you for coming on this morning. Happy Labor Day weekend.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Ken.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Always appreciate you. Thank you, sir. All right, Ken Rosato
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: in for Mark on your Friday. When we come back,
• 33:58
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• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Simone Show, now nine till noon weekdays on 710WOR.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Guest hosting for Mark today. Here's Ken Rosato.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Very good to be with you. Just that breaking news
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: once again in the Lindsay Clancy trial. A judge is
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: about to declare a mistrial, but the judge in the
• 34:22
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  Speaker 2: looks like we have a mistrial in the Clancy case,
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