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- 0:26Speaker 1: I think he is a very versatile guy. He can
- 0:29Speaker 1: play outside. He can play in the slot. I think
- 0:32Speaker 1: in my opinion, I'd love to hear that because I
- 0:34Speaker 1: think he's best.
- 0:35Speaker 2: In the slot.
- 0:35Speaker 1: His skill set just really fits well in the slot.
- 0:38Speaker 1: He's not like the guy that's just going to like
- 0:42Speaker 1: make a move and run right by you.
- 0:43Speaker 3: Right.
- 0:44Speaker 1: And he has the ability to make those plays still.
- 0:46Speaker 1: So I do like him at the X receiver a lot.
- 0:49Speaker 1: But to move him in on third downs and to
- 0:51Speaker 1: motion him and get him in stacks and to run
- 0:53Speaker 1: choice routes and be a big body that just has
- 0:57Speaker 1: some really good change direction skills. I played basketball with
- 1:00Speaker 1: him and he can move. I mean, he can play basketball.
- 1:03Speaker 1: And usually what happens when you're a good basketball player
- 1:06Speaker 1: and you can cross over and you can drive, like
- 1:10Speaker 1: usually that fits really well with releases and top of
- 1:14Speaker 1: route stuff, which he's really good at.
- 1:18Speaker 2: That is Adam Thielen.
- 1:20Speaker 3: Very interesting stuff there on the Fantasy Football Happy Hour
- 1:23Speaker 3: with Matt Berry. He's talking about why he thinks the
- 1:27Speaker 3: best spot for TMAC is the slot.
- 1:30Speaker 2: And he thinks it would be a great idea.
- 1:32Speaker 3: He started by saying, I'm so glad to hear that
- 1:35Speaker 3: they are talking about using him more in the slot.
- 1:38Speaker 2: And you heard him explain why.
- 1:40Speaker 3: And if anybody knows what it takes to be a
- 1:42Speaker 3: slot receiver, it's Adam Thielen. A lot of production bone
- 1:47Speaker 3: from that slot spot. So it'll be interesting to see
- 1:49Speaker 3: how much T-Mac is used in the slot. He also
- 1:52Speaker 3: had a clip, and I'm sure we'll use it at
- 1:54Speaker 3: some point, but he raved about Jalen Coker.
- 1:59Speaker 4: When you hear Thielen talk about T-Mac in the slot,
- 2:02Speaker 4: when we talked about it throughout the summer that the
- 2:05Speaker 4: Panthers may want to play him there more, it really
- 2:07Speaker 4: makes the drafting of Brazel interesting. make a lot of
- 2:11Speaker 4: sense of what they envisioned it to look like, right?
- 2:14Speaker 4: I know that you and I, and I was not
- 2:16Speaker 4: really big on what the Tennessee wideouts have done at
- 2:19Speaker 4: the NFL level from the Josh Heupel system, so that's
- 2:23Speaker 4: what I was thinking about. But when you think about
- 2:25Speaker 4: what Brazel's skill set is... and how that would affect
- 2:28Speaker 4: how they want to use TMAC, well, then it makes
- 2:30Speaker 4: a lot of sense why they gravitated towards Brazel as
- 2:33Speaker 4: that wide out in the.
- 2:34Speaker 2: Draft, right?
- 2:36Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's something they desperately were missing, man. They
- 2:39Speaker 3: don't have a dude with that profile. But yeah, you
- 2:42Speaker 3: could see how TMAC in the slot, Brazel... You know,
- 2:47Speaker 3: occupying multiple guys, bringing that safety to respect his speed
- 2:50Speaker 3: and T-Max working underneath. I'm sure they'll still find plenty
- 2:53Speaker 3: of ways to work him underneath. It also needs to
- 2:55Speaker 3: be mentioned, too. Jalen Coker is damn good in the
- 2:58Speaker 3: slot as well. So I think you want to work
- 3:01Speaker 3: both guys in there. You want to be multiple. You
- 3:02Speaker 3: want to be versatile. Let's talk about this. And so
- 3:05Speaker 3: is Darren Waller also.
- 3:06Speaker 2: 100%.
- 3:07Speaker 4: We're going to call it the swap machine offense.
- 3:11Speaker 3: 100%. Let's talk about this season.
- 3:15Speaker 5: All right.
- 3:15Speaker 2: We have been, some of us have been all over
- 3:18Speaker 2: the place.
- 3:19Speaker 3: Some of us have been adding wins, taking wins away
- 3:23Speaker 3: when injuries started happening, putting wins back up when they
- 3:26Speaker 3: went to FanFest, Vinny.
- 3:28Speaker 2: But now is the time.
- 3:29Speaker 3: This is the time to go on record with our
- 3:32Speaker 3: official final predictions.
- 3:35Speaker 2: And we want your final predictions. We have seen the preseason.
- 3:39Speaker 3: Um, we have seen the offense score one touchdown for
- 3:42Speaker 3: five drives, the first team offense. We've seen the joint. Well, I, we,
- 3:45Speaker 3: I've seen one of the joint practices. The other one
- 3:47Speaker 3: we all read about, um, in Jacksonville, um, We know now, unfortunately,
- 3:52Speaker 3: we don't have Pat Jones to start the season, and
- 3:54Speaker 3: it's week to week with.
- 3:55Speaker 2: A back injury.
- 3:57Speaker 3: And we know we don't have Skorton, and we don't
- 3:59Speaker 3: have the first two tackles, starting tackles from last year
- 4:03Speaker 3: to start the season. What is everybody's final win total number?
- 4:10Speaker 3: And how many of you are playoff believers? David Tepper
- 4:13Speaker 3: talked yesterday, Bone, about the importance of back-to-back winning seasons, right? Well,
- 4:18Speaker 3: we can't do that this year because even though they
- 4:20Speaker 3: went to the playoffs last year and won the division,
- 4:21Speaker 3: they have a winning season. But back-to-back playoff seasons would
- 4:25Speaker 3: signify the same sort of thing. It would signify, hey,
- 4:28Speaker 3: it wasn't fluky. You're starting to sustain and build something.
- 4:33Speaker 3: What's your final prediction? How many wins?
- 4:36Speaker 2: And are you a playoff believer? I think you are,
- 4:39Speaker 2: Bone Man. What do you say?
- 4:40Speaker 4: I had not put my name on the 10-win board
- 4:43Speaker 4: at all in the offseason, but I did it today.
- 4:45Speaker 4: I saved it for this moment right there. It now
- 4:47Speaker 4: says T-Bone, and the number 10 is circled. I'm landing
- 4:51Speaker 4: on 10 wins as Tampa Tammy's in the hallway right now.
- 4:54Speaker 4: Tampa Tammy, don't you dare laugh at our 10-win prediction.
- 4:56Speaker 4: Don't you dare, girl. Hey, Tammy, Dabo Sweeney's on the
- 4:59Speaker 4: phone looking for a job right now.
- 5:01Speaker 2: He might want to go see what's up.
- 5:02Speaker 3: Hey, turn her into Tiger Tammy today. Oh, she's not
- 5:05Speaker 3: laughing now, is she? Little old Clemson, Tammy. Little old Clemson.
- 5:08Speaker 2: Lane Kippen's in the lobby out there. Say what's up.
- 5:12Speaker 4: Mac, I think this team is going to be... She
- 5:16Speaker 4: showed me we're number one right now. That's a ratings number.
- 5:20Speaker 4: I'm distracted momentarily. Focus, focus, focus. I think this team
- 5:26Speaker 4: will be built very much. So in the vein of
- 5:29Speaker 4: what those early two thousands Panthers teams were like, ironically,
- 5:35Speaker 4: the ones that Dan Morgan played for, I think the
- 5:37Speaker 4: defense is going to be great.
- 5:39Speaker 2: I think the run game is going to be good.
- 5:40Speaker 4: And I think the offense is going back to be
- 5:42Speaker 4: good enough to not beat itself and and to give
- 5:46Speaker 4: the team a chance to win. Is it going to
- 5:47Speaker 4: be a spectacular offense? No, I don't think so. But
- 5:50Speaker 4: I think with the defense, with the run game, once
- 5:53Speaker 4: they figure out the offensive line and they get used
- 5:55Speaker 4: to each other, I think this is going to be
- 5:56Speaker 4: very much an early 2000s Panther team that can win
- 6:00Speaker 4: 10 games and win the South back-to-back.
- 6:02Speaker 2: I like it.
- 6:02Speaker 4: I'm not saying they're going 12 or 13, but it's
- 6:06Speaker 4: going to be a team that resembles a lot of
- 6:10Speaker 4: what we think of When we think of those years
- 6:12Speaker 4: of Panther football.
- 6:13Speaker 2: I like it.
- 6:13Speaker 3: And that's what Dan Morgan wants to build here, right?
- 6:16Speaker 3: Like the teams he played on. So take that, Tampa Tammy.
- 6:19Speaker 2: Take that. Did you see her face when I said Clemson?
- 6:22Speaker 2: She got sad.
- 6:22Speaker 3: Yeah, that was. That flipped the script on her right there.
- 6:25Speaker 3: That was a good call. I forgot she was a
- 6:26Speaker 3: Clemson fan, too. She had a look in her eye like,
- 6:30Speaker 3: we might need to kill you. All right.
- 6:33Speaker 2: So let's. All right.
- 6:34Speaker 3: So I'll jump in, Bone. I. am unfortunately not going
- 6:40Speaker 3: to be a member of the 10 win club. All right.
- 6:42Speaker 3: I'm unfortunately not going to be a member of that,
- 6:45Speaker 3: but I will start my own nine win club. I
- 6:48Speaker 3: would like to join that nine on nine, uh, where
- 6:52Speaker 3: I still believe we're winning the NFC South. I think
- 6:54Speaker 3: nine wins will win this division. I do think the
- 6:57Speaker 3: saints are getting better. I do think there'll be there
- 6:59Speaker 3: with us. I do think Tampa will do some good
- 7:02Speaker 3: things if they're healthy, but I still wonder bone. About
- 7:06Speaker 3: Todd Bowles, it feels like things were falling apart in
- 7:09Speaker 3: terms of his relationship with guys. I do wonder how
- 7:12Speaker 3: long Baker stays fully healthy with the way he plays.
- 7:15Speaker 3: I think it's a close three-way division race with the
- 7:18Speaker 3: Falcons eating our absolute dust. But I think the Panthers
- 7:23Speaker 3: win the division with nine wins. It's a tougher schedule
- 7:26Speaker 3: this year, at least going into the season. But last
- 7:28Speaker 3: year's schedule, Bone, we thought was supposed to be the
- 7:30Speaker 3: 25th toughest going into the season. It ended up being
- 7:33Speaker 3: the eighth toughest, and we still won the division. It
- 7:35Speaker 3: ended up being a top 10 schedule. And yeah, we
- 7:38Speaker 3: won eight games. We backed in.
- 7:39Speaker 2: It was a pretty tough schedule. And we got a
- 7:42Speaker 2: couple of big wins along the way.
- 7:43Speaker 3: I expect us to get a couple of wins bone
- 7:45Speaker 3: where we're underdogs again, where people don't expect us to win. Unfortunately,
- 7:49Speaker 3: we'll probably trip up to a team somewhere where it's like,
- 7:51Speaker 3: how did we lose that game? But I think the defense,
- 7:54Speaker 3: like you said, is taking a step forward. I think
- 7:57Speaker 3: it's going to be a top 10 unit. And I
- 7:59Speaker 3: do think the running game now, again, Brooks is an
- 8:01Speaker 3: X factor, right? How healthy can he stay? But I
- 8:05Speaker 3: do think the running game can be better from last year.
- 8:07Speaker 3: I think Chuba's on a mission. I think he's disappointed
- 8:10Speaker 3: the way last year went. But those guys got to
- 8:12Speaker 3: stay healthy. I think Bryce takes another jump. I think
- 8:15Speaker 3: the Idzik play calling thing is a very positive factor
- 8:18Speaker 3: for the offense and for Coach Canales as a game manager.
- 8:22Speaker 3: And I think T-Mac and Coker are guys that are
- 8:24Speaker 3: going to improve. And I think Waller brings a skill
- 8:26Speaker 3: set we.
- 8:26Speaker 2: Have not had.
- 8:27Speaker 3: And I do believe, Bone, the O-line will get better
- 8:30Speaker 3: in time. I think Freeling will get better as time
- 8:33Speaker 3: goes on. And obviously the help will come back at
- 8:36Speaker 3: some point in the form of Vicky and Moat.
- 8:38Speaker 4: I think we're going to know a ton about this
- 8:40Speaker 4: team within the first four games.
- 8:42Speaker 2: Right before the bye week.
- 8:43Speaker 4: Not saying that things can't happen along the way, but
- 8:46Speaker 4: that stretch of Philadelphia all the way down to Tampa Bay,
- 8:49Speaker 4: so basically most of October, November, that's what we look
- 8:53Speaker 4: at as a tough part. If they start well, and
- 8:56Speaker 4: that really means... Atlanta, Cleveland, I'm not worried about, but
- 9:00Speaker 4: Mac three and one. If they start three and one
- 9:03Speaker 4: before the bye week, that's probably awesome.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be awesome. Even two and two.
- 9:08Speaker 4: It's not ideal, but it's not the end of the
- 9:09Speaker 4: world based on how you usually start. Don't don't lose
- 9:13Speaker 4: the bookends, Chicago, Detroit, and have one of those trip
- 9:16Speaker 4: ups to God forbid Atlanta or Cleveland.
- 9:19Speaker 2: They start one in three. That's even where my positivity
- 9:22Speaker 2: will be out the window.
- 9:22Speaker 3: Because the schedule after that bye gets so tough, right?
- 9:27Speaker 3: 2-2 would still feel good compared to Canales' first two seasons.
- 9:31Speaker 3: Canales started 2-7. He started 0-2 in each of his
- 9:35Speaker 3: two seasons. He started 2-7 in his first season. And
- 9:38Speaker 3: they started 1-3 last year. So 2-2 would be a
- 9:42Speaker 3: better start, but 3-1 would be real nice, man.
- 9:47Speaker 2: 2-2 would be cautious optimism.
- 9:49Speaker 4: 3-1 would be, okay, let's get that next stretch of
- 9:53Speaker 4: games going.
- 9:54Speaker 2: 3-1 would be Fit.
- 9:55Speaker 3: He tries to take the thong off and everything else
- 9:58Speaker 3: off while he victory dances.
- 10:00Speaker 2: Or 3-1. 3-1 would be that.
- 10:01Speaker 3: All right, let me read some of these texts.
- 10:03Speaker 2: That just got really graphic.
- 10:05Speaker 3: I'm sorry, y'all. I forgot it was breakfast hours for
- 10:07Speaker 3: y'all out there. So let's read some of these texts.
- 10:09Speaker 3: We will let Panther Fitty give his prediction, his final prediction.
- 10:14Speaker 3: The season starts in three days. You've seen the preseason
- 10:17Speaker 3: play out. Unfortunately, we've got injuries in the trenches. What
- 10:20Speaker 3: is your win total? Gas House Earl goes 12. So
- 10:23Speaker 3: he's on the positive side. Patrick in Huntersville, not so much.
- 10:27Speaker 5: 6-11.
- 10:28Speaker 3: Panthers draft a quarterback in the first round. Hope I'm wrong. Yeah,
- 10:32Speaker 3: I bet you sound like a guy that really hopes
- 10:33Speaker 3: he's wrong.
- 10:34Speaker 2: Go scratch yourself!
- 10:36Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure you type that thinking, boy, golly gee,
- 10:39Speaker 4: I hope I'm wrong.
- 10:40Speaker 2: I just, I don't know.
- 10:41Speaker 3: Maybe he does hope he's wrong, but it just feels
- 10:43Speaker 3: like some of y'all just want Bryce to like, you
- 10:47Speaker 3: want him to be bad and lose the job. And
- 10:49Speaker 3: then we go draft the quarterback, and there's no guarantee
- 10:51Speaker 3: he's as good as Bryce. I just want to point
- 10:53Speaker 3: that out. Will Levis and Anthony Richardson were in his
- 10:56Speaker 3: draft class in the first round very early. Just want
- 10:58Speaker 3: to point that out. 336 says nine wins. John the
- 11:04Speaker 3: Beer Man's got him. In the playoffs, getting a playoff win.
- 11:07Speaker 3: Nine and eight, getting a playoff win. That's another part
- 11:10Speaker 3: of the question. Because what I really want, Bone, is
- 11:13Speaker 3: retain your division title, add to your win total. I've
- 11:17Speaker 3: only got it one win higher than last year. I
- 11:18Speaker 3: don't feel like it's anything crazy. But if you could
- 11:22Speaker 3: actually win a playoff game, and they were so close
- 11:24Speaker 3: last year, that would be huge, man.
- 11:27Speaker 4: That would be a huge step. Good Nugget sent in
- 11:31Speaker 4: a text. It was actually yesterday he sent this in, Mac,
- 11:33Speaker 4: but I'm sure we mentioned this along the way. Connor
- 11:36Speaker 4: Orr is the one guy that has us winning the
- 11:38Speaker 4: South by three games on SI.com. Three games, baby. He
- 11:41Speaker 4: got us sitting back chilling in December. He's got us 10-7,
- 11:44Speaker 4: the Bucs 7-10. But what's interesting about that, man.
- 11:47Speaker 2: Three games by winning 10.
- 11:48Speaker 4: What's interesting about that, he has us starting 2-2, though.
- 11:53Speaker 4: He has this then beating Philadelphia, Tampa Bay post by
- 11:57Speaker 4: and also Baltimore beat Baltimore in there as well. So
- 12:00Speaker 4: he has this actually picking up steam in the hardest
- 12:03Speaker 4: part on paper of the schedule.
- 12:05Speaker 3: The Connecticut Yankee ain't buying what we're saying. He says,
- 12:08Speaker 3: why would your running game be stronger than your pass game?
- 12:10Speaker 3: Your one true potential star is T-Mac. These Connecticut Yankees
- 12:14Speaker 3: can get out of here. Takes one to know one
- 12:17Speaker 3: over there, Bone. I think we all believe at heart,
- 12:21Speaker 3: even though there are times where maybe he's got away
- 12:24Speaker 3: from it, but I think we believe Dave Canales and
- 12:26Speaker 3: Brad Itz and we believe they want to run the
- 12:27Speaker 3: ball first.
- 12:29Speaker 2: Right? Yeah.
- 12:30Speaker 3: But they do have something to prove, Bone, right? With, like,
- 12:33Speaker 3: you know, Chuba and Brooks stay healthy. Offensive line. Can
- 12:37Speaker 3: they run block?
- 12:39Speaker 5: You know?
- 12:39Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 12:40Speaker 3: Walker's not necessarily known more as a pass blocker. Can
- 12:44Speaker 3: Freeling run block? So there are some questions there.
- 12:46Speaker 4: And I've said repeatedly here that while we're focused on
- 12:50Speaker 4: the health of Brooks because of the serious nature of
- 12:53Speaker 4: his injuries, we also, Mac, don't want the— majority of
- 12:57Speaker 4: the workload to beyond brooks because of his past they
- 13:01Speaker 4: want to make sure this is split so chuba not
- 13:04Speaker 4: having something come up a hamstring a muscle pull chuba
- 13:07Speaker 4: staying healthy is also paramount to all this as well.
- 13:09Speaker 2: No doubt yeah yeah we can't take that for granted either.
- 13:11Speaker 4: Because you don't want brooks having to do most i
- 13:13Speaker 4: know dylan's there but you you don't want brooks having
- 13:16Speaker 4: to be the main guy without a whole lot of
- 13:18Speaker 4: with a.
- 13:18Speaker 3: Lot of chuba you want to split season if you
- 13:20Speaker 3: can um by the way something crazy happened five straight
- 13:24Speaker 3: winning record predictions in a row on the text line
- 13:27Speaker 3: I did not see. Because before that, it had been
- 13:29Speaker 3: very like, here's one saying losing record. 704-980.
- 13:33Speaker 5: Let's go.
- 13:34Speaker 4: This man predicts Walker May will be in line for
- 13:37Speaker 4: a back-to-back South Championship t-shirt.
- 13:39Speaker 2: I'm aroused.
- 13:41Speaker 3: We've got Rachel with 10. Davidson Jimmy with 10 wins.
- 13:46Speaker 3: Dodger Charles says 10-7.
- 13:48Speaker 2: Book it. A little more consistency. Yeah, that could go
- 13:50Speaker 2: a long way, Bone.
- 13:52Speaker 3: How about you don't look like a different team every
- 13:55Speaker 3: other week type thing? If we're talking about how you
- 13:59Speaker 3: can progress, that's another way you can show progression and
- 14:03Speaker 3: you're growing up as a team. Bryce Young being more
- 14:05Speaker 3: dang consistent. The team actually arriving, Bone, before the month
- 14:09Speaker 3: of October. Things like that would be progress.
- 14:13Speaker 4: They should show Bryce a schedule and just see if
- 14:16Speaker 4: he falls for it where every game is against Atlanta.
- 14:20Speaker 4: And Bryce is like, well, this is weird to play
- 14:21Speaker 4: in Atlanta again. All right, I guess I'll go out there.
- 14:23Speaker 2: And play Atlanta again.
- 14:25Speaker 3: Either that or change the calendar on his phone to, like,
- 14:28Speaker 3: October or November. Because he has been so good in
- 14:31Speaker 3: the second half of seasons. Here's a texter with three wins.
- 14:35Speaker 3: They must have heard, Bone, that there was optimism on
- 14:37Speaker 3: five straight texts.
- 14:38Speaker 2: What up, Bebop? They had to do something about it.
- 14:40Speaker 2: What up, Bebop? No, it's not. It's not Bebop. Bebop
- 14:43Speaker 2: is quiet.
- 14:43Speaker 3: Formal Timothy says 7-10. Timothy, that might be your most
- 14:48Speaker 3: optimistic preseason outlook.
- 14:53Speaker 4: Ever, baby.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Tim is getting wild on us.
- 14:55Speaker 3: I actually take that as like you're more optimistic than usual,
- 14:59Speaker 3: I think.
- 15:00Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong.
- 15:01Speaker 4: We got to bring in the Fit Dogs number here, right?
- 15:04Speaker 4: Panther Fitties got to do it, baby. This is what
- 15:07Speaker 4: we like to call the tone setter, right? You and
- 15:09Speaker 4: I are just the— The appetizer, right? This is the
- 15:12Speaker 4: main course right here.
- 15:13Speaker 3: This is what people wait for. This is what brings
- 15:16Speaker 3: families together. This is what brings all the girls to
- 15:19Speaker 3: the yard.
- 15:19Speaker 2: Oh, okay. That's true. Fitty's milkshake.
- 15:21Speaker 5: All right, Fitty.
- 15:22Speaker 2: What do you got over there? It's a song, y'all.
- 15:25Speaker 2: It's a damn song. All right. Daddy, what do you got, baby?
- 15:30Speaker 6: When we got the schedule back in April, went through it, Mac.
- 15:34Speaker 6: I had this team winning 11 games. Then they had
- 15:37Speaker 6: a preseason game. had a rough moment, maybe dropped them
- 15:42Speaker 6: down to 10. Then I saw them at FanFest, bumped
- 15:45Speaker 6: them back up to 11. And then the Texans came
- 15:48Speaker 6: in for a joint practice and kicked our ass. And maybe,
- 15:51Speaker 6: just maybe, I dropped us back down to 10. When
- 15:55Speaker 6: we got the schedule, I had this team starting 4-0
- 15:58Speaker 6: going into the bye week. I'm not wavering from that
- 16:01Speaker 6: 4-0 prediction. I think this team starts fast. I think
- 16:05Speaker 6: this team starts hot.
- 16:07Speaker 5: I still... Hold on to my belief.
- 16:10Speaker 6: That the Carolina Panthers will continue their trajectory of improving
- 16:13Speaker 6: by three wins every single year under Dave Canales.
- 16:17Speaker 2: Book it.
- 16:19Speaker 5: Take it to the bank. Panthers go 11 and six.
- 16:21Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 16:22Speaker 3: After all that bone, it had been a roller coaster
- 16:25Speaker 3: ride for Phinney's prediction all preseason long. I'm not sure
- 16:29Speaker 3: you could keep track of that, but he ended up
- 16:32Speaker 3: bone where he was at the start of the preseason.
- 16:35Speaker 2: He went up, down, up, down, back again, all around.
- 16:38Speaker 4: We had to turn the 10 wind thing backwards now
- 16:41Speaker 4: because Phinney's been crossed out 11 times this off season.
- 16:46Speaker 2: We took a couple detours.
- 16:47Speaker 6: It was like going home back on 74 during rush hour.
- 16:50Speaker 6: Maybe you got to take a little side road here,
- 16:52Speaker 6: a little side road there. But we still got to
- 16:55Speaker 6: the ultimate destination. Back-to-back division championships. We win a playoff game.
- 17:01Speaker 6: And we unequivocally... When the season does come to an end,
- 17:05Speaker 6: we know we're paying Bryce Young as our quarterback.
- 17:09Speaker 2: Not us.
- 17:10Speaker 3: If it's us, he ain't getting paid crap.
- 17:13Speaker 2: I was going to say, we don't have to put
- 17:14Speaker 2: in any money, do we? I hope not.
- 17:16Speaker 4: I want to ask that. If that's the legit thing,
- 17:19Speaker 4: they should ask Tepper at the press conference.
- 17:20Speaker 5: And then he'll refer you to Scott Fowler.
- 17:23Speaker 2: Or Dan Morgan. He likes doing that, too. Scott Fowler's
- 17:25Speaker 2: one of those gotcha guys, isn't he? Oh, my God.
- 17:27Speaker 3: Yeah, Scott Fowler got mentioned about four times in that presser.
- 17:31Speaker 5: All right.
- 17:32Speaker 2: Anyway, Bone, I hate to do this. How many wins
- 17:35Speaker 2: did you pick? I had 10. Okay, I knew you
- 17:37Speaker 2: were positive. That's right, 10. Okay, I'm sorry. I was listening, baby.
- 17:40Speaker 2: I was locked, all right?
- 17:41Speaker 1: I know.
- 17:41Speaker 2: You always listen to me.
- 17:42Speaker 3: We have gotten multiple requests for this in the spirit.
- 17:46Speaker 3: of Panther enthusiasm on this show.
- 17:48Speaker 2: Dr.
- 17:49Speaker 3: Suave, 704 number. When I Panther growled, they both have
- 17:52Speaker 3: requested a certain Panther growl. It's from one Jimmy Horn. Fitty,
- 17:57Speaker 3: you got to play this. This is a SI reporter
- 18:01Speaker 3: that is having fun with some of the guys after
- 18:03Speaker 3: practice one day. It's Waller, Coker, and then Jimmy Horn's
- 18:07Speaker 3: the last one. Turn this up, Fetty, and you might
- 18:10Speaker 3: have to turn your radios up because Jimmy Horn does
- 18:13Speaker 3: the daintiest panther noise you ever hear. But listen to this. Waller, Coker,
- 18:18Speaker 3: and Horn giving their attempt at a.
- 18:21Speaker 8: What sound does a panther make?
- 18:23Speaker 4: Wow, that was really good.
- 18:28Speaker 8: Was that the sound?
- 18:29Speaker 7: So quiet.
- 18:30Speaker 8: Quiet panther.
- 18:31Speaker 3: It's a loud panther.
- 18:32Speaker 2: I ain't really too much of a screamer. What was
- 18:34Speaker 2: that noise? Can I hear it one more time? What
- 18:37Speaker 2: was that horn? What was he doing? The second one
- 18:39Speaker 2: makes me laugh, too. I need to hear that again.
- 18:41Speaker 8: What sound does a panther make?
- 18:43Speaker 4: Wow, that was really good.
- 18:46Speaker 7: Was that the sound?
- 18:49Speaker 8: So quiet. Quiet panther.
- 18:51Speaker 2: It's a loud panther. I ain't really too much of
- 18:53Speaker 2: a screamer.
- 18:55Speaker 6: That's the sound the kitty makes in the Big Bang
- 18:58Speaker 6: Theory when Sheldon is singing Soft Kitty, Warm Kitty.
- 19:00Speaker 2: Soft Kitty. Warm kitty, little ball of fur.
- 19:06Speaker 4: Happy kitty, warm kitty, purr, purr, purr.
- 19:10Speaker 2: There you go, Mac.
- 19:12Speaker 4: I now know that song. I've never watched one episode
- 19:14Speaker 4: of that show. Mac, you have one of the great
- 19:15Speaker 4: growls over there.
- 19:16Speaker 2: Give us your growl.
- 19:17Speaker 4: There it is.
- 19:18Speaker 2: Well, as you know, our girl Ernestine used to have
- 19:20Speaker 2: the best damn panther growl. Oh, the best ever.
- 19:22Speaker 3: I know William, her husband, texted last season. I wonder
- 19:25Speaker 3: where she is, man. I wonder if Ernestine can growl
- 19:28Speaker 3: for us before the season kicks off.
- 19:30Speaker 5: That sounds like a woman that can growl. Ernestine?
- 19:32Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, she's growling. Settle yourself down. That's a happily
- 19:35Speaker 2: married woman. Stop that right now.
- 19:36Speaker 3: All right.
- 19:36Speaker 2: Don't be disrespectful to William.
- 19:38Speaker 3: All right.
- 19:39Speaker 2: We come back. The voice of the Panthers.
- 19:42Speaker 4: Since day one, Jim Zoki joins Back and Bone to
- 19:45Speaker 4: preview the Bears game and more. Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ.
- 19:48Speaker 4: Matt Grouse out of the segment.
- 20:03Speaker 3: Back in Bone with you here on a Thursday in
- 20:07Speaker 3: week one. It is go time, baby. How many wins
- 20:09Speaker 3: for the Panthers? And are you a playoff believer like
- 20:12Speaker 3: the three of us are? Or are you not as
- 20:15Speaker 3: cool as we are? That's the question this morning. And
- 20:18Speaker 3: if you're not as cool as we are, it's a
- 20:19Speaker 3: severe problem for you. 9-8-0 number, Bone, got creative.
- 20:22Speaker 4: 8-8-1.
- 20:25Speaker 3: There always has to be somebody that puts a tie
- 20:28Speaker 3: in their prediction.
- 20:30Speaker 2: Jim Zoki joins us. Let us know which game they're
- 20:32Speaker 2: tying so we can monitor it. Come on, baby.
- 20:34Speaker 3: You've got to be more specific. Zoki joins us with
- 20:37Speaker 3: a view from the booth. Zok, what's going on, man?
- 20:41Speaker 3: How are you feeling?
- 20:41Speaker 2: Feeling good.
- 20:42Speaker 9: I agree with you guys. I think playoffs. I think
- 20:44Speaker 9: winning record. This year.
- 20:45Speaker 7: So I feel, again, here we go. It's an exciting
- 20:49Speaker 7: time of the year. Everybody feels good about your team,
- 20:51Speaker 7: except maybe Drake May fans. That was kind of a
- 20:55Speaker 7: weird ending last night. He said he was throwing that
- 20:57Speaker 7: ball away, but it sure.
- 20:58Speaker 2: Looked like he was. Oh, I didn't hear that. Okay.
- 21:00Speaker 7: He said, but I thought he was throwing the corner
- 21:03Speaker 7: out to the receiver.
- 21:04Speaker 3: It was throwing the game away is what he was doing.
- 21:07Speaker 3: He definitely should have thrown it away, right? He was, like,
- 21:10Speaker 3: off balance, leaning back, so maybe he didn't get on
- 21:12Speaker 3: it when he wanted to, but that's a horrible mistake
- 21:14Speaker 3: to make.
- 21:14Speaker 7: It's usually when it's like you either catch it or
- 21:15Speaker 7: it's out of bounds. I'm sure it was in his head.
- 21:17Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 21:17Speaker 7: But, you know, you already have the field goal in
- 21:19Speaker 7: your back pocket. So, anyway, weird start to the season.
- 21:21Speaker 7: Brutal mistake, man. Ugly game, but entertaining finish. We get
- 21:25Speaker 7: another one tonight between the Rams and the Niners. And
- 21:28Speaker 7: then we get to Panthers, Oak.
- 21:29Speaker 3: So you're still saying like we are winning record in playoffs.
- 21:34Speaker 3: What do you think, though, about the Pat Jones news?
- 21:37Speaker 3: Because this stinks just for him after he missed so
- 21:40Speaker 3: much time last year. He's got a back situation again.
- 21:43Speaker 3: Canals says, hey, it's a different area of the back
- 21:45Speaker 3: than he had the surgery on. And he's week to week,
- 21:48Speaker 3: so we don't know how long this is going to be.
- 21:50Speaker 3: But he was the guy that we felt good about. OK,
- 21:52Speaker 3: he's back. So we lost Nick Skorton, but Jones is back.
- 21:56Speaker 3: Now we don't have either one. Like, how worried are
- 21:58Speaker 3: you about that Bears offense with those two edges out?
- 22:01Speaker 7: Yeah, especially, you know, first game, wanted to have rotational depth, obviously.
- 22:04Speaker 7: So it's going to bite into that. So guys like
- 22:06Speaker 7: Thomas Incomer are going to have to step up. But
- 22:08Speaker 7: I was talking yesterday after practice with Princely Amon-Miellon and,
- 22:12Speaker 7: you know, like Nick Skorton.
- 22:14Speaker 2: That would have been.
- 22:15Speaker 7: Taking a big step up, I think, as far as
- 22:16Speaker 7: first year to second year, Skorton would have been on
- 22:19Speaker 7: that trajectory.
- 22:20Speaker 9: I think with Princely, same thing.
- 22:21Speaker 7: He's looked really good in camp and in the preseason
- 22:23Speaker 7: games when he's out there on the field for those
- 22:25Speaker 7: reps that he had there. So you got the players,
- 22:29Speaker 7: but again, you get into the depth of the game,
- 22:31Speaker 7: and we'll see fourth quarter. When you're rushing the quarterback
- 22:35Speaker 7: for four quarters out there, you want to have that
- 22:37Speaker 7: rotational depth out there. And you saw with Moon, they
- 22:40Speaker 7: brought him onto the practice squad, so Obviously, someone's going
- 22:42Speaker 7: to fill the roster spot, and we'll see how they
- 22:44Speaker 7: do that come later in the week. But that's a
- 22:47Speaker 7: great way to start the season, I think, is we
- 22:49Speaker 7: have fun, entertaining games.
- 22:50Speaker 2: It is a fun matchup. I'll say one thing, Bo,
- 22:52Speaker 2: real quick.
- 22:54Speaker 3: Mike Kay did make a point, and this was before
- 22:56Speaker 3: Pat Jones' news came down, but he was saying that
- 22:59Speaker 3: Jeremiah Moon is seen as a better run defender on
- 23:01Speaker 3: the edge. than Cam Gill, because they dropped Cam Gill
- 23:05Speaker 3: off the practice squad. He's seen as more of the
- 23:06Speaker 3: pass rush specialist. And maybe because Pat Jones was going
- 23:10Speaker 3: to be one of those run-down defensive ends, maybe they
- 23:13Speaker 3: want Moon.
- 23:14Speaker 2: Maybe they're going to call him up this week. We'll
- 23:15Speaker 2: see if they work that way. We'll see. We'll see.
- 23:17Speaker 4: Zogue, we envision this team being built and playing... kind
- 23:21Speaker 4: of like the dan morgan teams that he played on
- 23:23Speaker 4: with the defense to run game in offense that may
- 23:26Speaker 4: not be spectacular but does enough is that sort of
- 23:29Speaker 4: how you see this playing out a.
- 23:30Speaker 7: Little bit yeah he seems to know linebacker play pretty
- 23:32Speaker 7: well so i love them obviously i think we all
- 23:34Speaker 7: love the bobby okereke signing to put in on the
- 23:36Speaker 7: inside with devin lloyd and so that was just what
- 23:39Speaker 7: the doctor ordered and then it gives you the depth
- 23:41Speaker 7: obviously with claude and cheryl is i think developmentally on
- 23:45Speaker 7: the 53-man roster with jackson kuwach i think they like
- 23:47Speaker 7: his potential of what he can become seventh-round pick out
- 23:50Speaker 7: of Miami of Ohio. But as far as having that
- 23:52Speaker 7: front-line starting linebacker out there, I mean, a guy that's
- 23:55Speaker 7: 30 that's been in the league this long, that's an
- 23:57Speaker 7: easy plug-and-play of just a veteran guy that you need
- 24:00Speaker 7: behind that defensive front.
- 24:01Speaker 9: So I love it.
- 24:02Speaker 7: I like the way they've addressed and kind of attacked
- 24:04Speaker 7: this offseason, obviously with Phillips, mentioned Devin Lloyd. And then
- 24:08Speaker 7: in the draft, I think Lee Hunter, obviously a lot
- 24:10Speaker 7: expected right away because, again, depth issues with injuries there.
- 24:13Speaker 7: And then what will Lee? And I think Zachy Wheatley.
- 24:17Speaker 7: I mean, I think this is going to shape up
- 24:18Speaker 7: a really good draft class that as we get into
- 24:21Speaker 7: the season that these guys, the rookie three I just
- 24:23Speaker 7: mentioned there, as they develop to go with the veterans
- 24:26Speaker 7: in there. Hopefully it hits the ground running week one.
- 24:28Speaker 7: As we know, we're traditionally a slow starting team. We'd
- 24:31Speaker 7: like to not be this year, not go 0-2 to
- 24:33Speaker 7: start the season. But if we can hit the ground
- 24:35Speaker 7: running and then get everybody going in a couple weeks
- 24:38Speaker 7: here as far as you've got to give the rookies
- 24:40Speaker 7: a little bit of time. Same with Monroe Freeling at
- 24:41Speaker 7: right tackle. You've got to have a little grace that
- 24:43Speaker 7: there's going to be some plays missed out there. But overall,
- 24:46Speaker 7: if they can win a lot more than they lose,
- 24:47Speaker 7: they'll be in good shape.
- 24:48Speaker 3: We're talking with Jim Zoki, Panther Radio Network, since the
- 24:51Speaker 3: inception of the Dang franchise. Ladies and gentlemen, he is
- 24:55Speaker 3: an institution, and he is hanging out with us here.
- 24:57Speaker 9: We should be in one, maybe.
- 25:00Speaker 2: Oh, that's what I meant. I haven't checked my notes yet.
- 25:02Speaker 2: That's what I was trying to say.
- 25:03Speaker 9: I have to go back at 10.
- 25:06Speaker 3: Thank you for your notes for letting me out. That's
- 25:08Speaker 3: some good self-deprecating humor. All right, let's go to this
- 25:11Speaker 3: matchup specifically. The offense has really been, I mean, not
- 25:15Speaker 3: that we haven't just slow started as a team lately,
- 25:17Speaker 3: but that offense, 10 points each of the last three years,
- 25:20Speaker 3: every year that Bryce has been here, I'm not blaming
- 25:22Speaker 3: it just on him. but like 10 points in each
- 25:24Speaker 3: of those games. But I look at the Bears' matchup,
- 25:26Speaker 3: and as scary as their offense can be, I look
- 25:29Speaker 3: at that defense and say, man, there's an opportunity against
- 25:32Speaker 3: that unit to get off to a better start offensively.
- 25:35Speaker 3: I got my fingers crossed.
- 25:36Speaker 2: What do you think? Is that kind of what you see?
- 25:39Speaker 2: What do you see with this matchup.
- 25:40Speaker 9: With the Bears?
- 25:41Speaker 2: I hope so.
- 25:41Speaker 7: The Bears are interesting. As you guys have, a lot
- 25:44Speaker 7: of Bears stuff this week. And they were the No.
- 25:46Speaker 7: 1 turnover team last year. They by far led the
- 25:49Speaker 7: league in interceptions and takeaways. But the yards and the points,
- 25:52Speaker 7: the things that go up on the scoreboard, the yards
- 25:54Speaker 7: that lead to the points and what they're doing, they
- 25:56Speaker 7: knew they had to revamp it. Dennis Allen, I have
- 25:58Speaker 7: a lot of respect for him as defensive coordinator. But
- 26:00Speaker 7: it's kind of like they've retooled it. But then when
- 26:02Speaker 7: they lost Kobe Bryant, I thought that was big as
- 26:04Speaker 7: far as losing that safety piece there. So they've changed
- 26:07Speaker 7: out to the point where like five of their top
- 26:09Speaker 7: six guys on defensive snaps last year are gone through
- 26:12Speaker 7: a trade or just different reasons why they're not released. So, again,
- 26:17Speaker 7: everyone going into a new season, you don't know exactly
- 26:19Speaker 7: what they have. But that clearly is, I would think,
- 26:22Speaker 7: hopefully early in the season, a weakness for them. I'm
- 26:25Speaker 7: excited to see what Brad Idzik does as play caller.
- 26:27Speaker 7: I think he's going to be like a general on defense.
- 26:29Speaker 7: I think he's going to be an aggressive play caller.
- 26:31Speaker 7: So I don't think everything's going to be a dink
- 26:33Speaker 7: and dunk and West Coast kind of type passing style.
- 26:35Speaker 7: I think they'll take their shots down the field.
- 26:37Speaker 9: And it'll be interesting to see like Jimmy Horn with
- 26:39Speaker 9: his speed.
- 26:40Speaker 7: Obviously, T-Mac up and running for a second season, hitting
- 26:42Speaker 7: the ground running for his second year. It'll be fun
- 26:45Speaker 7: to see, again, you want to establish the run and
- 26:47Speaker 7: have that. But Also, open it up and take it
- 26:49Speaker 7: down the field with some big chunk plays, hopefully.
- 26:51Speaker 4: What do you think of the Panthers' defense and how
- 26:53Speaker 4: they match up against the Bears' offense? Stopping them seems difficult,
- 26:58Speaker 4: but how do they at least slow them down to
- 27:00Speaker 4: give themselves a chance in this game?
- 27:02Speaker 2: I think you're here, too.
- 27:03Speaker 7: I think Averro's got the ability to not go crazy,
- 27:06Speaker 7: but to move pieces around out there in the secondary
- 27:09Speaker 7: and bring them closer in.
- 27:10Speaker 9: Obviously, I talked about putting J.C.
- 27:12Speaker 2: Horn in the slot.
- 27:13Speaker 7: Trayvon Merrick did really well as a box safety last
- 27:15Speaker 7: year at times. So you can show different looks. And sometimes,
- 27:18Speaker 7: you know, fake as if you're blitzing and so forth,
- 27:21Speaker 7: as much as you might want to be aggressive, just
- 27:23Speaker 7: to show that look to get them thinking. And again,
- 27:26Speaker 7: I was talking with Princely yesterday about this. He said
- 27:29Speaker 7: it's almost like a Sean McVay mentality with what Ben
- 27:31Speaker 7: Johnson and the offense does. A lot of shifts in
- 27:33Speaker 7: motions where they try to get you to show what
- 27:35Speaker 7: you're going to do defensively. A lot of pre-snap things.
- 27:37Speaker 7: So they have to be disciplined. I think Ben Johnson
- 27:40Speaker 7: made the comment he wants to be the highest scoring
- 27:42Speaker 7: team in NFL history.
- 27:43Speaker 9: Not this year, but I think in the history of
- 27:45Speaker 9: the NFL, I believe it was his comment.
- 27:46Speaker 2: And win every game and route to a Super Bowl title.
- 27:48Speaker 9: Which we all want.
- 27:49Speaker 2: He likes to ease into the season.
- 27:52Speaker 7: But he may have a better chance than some in
- 27:53Speaker 7: the league at being able to actually pull that off.
- 27:55Speaker 7: So it kind of gives you an idea of what that, again,
- 27:58Speaker 7: that McVay mentality of what they can do out there.
- 28:00Speaker 7: And Caleb Williams is coming off the highest passing season
- 28:03Speaker 7: of any yardage-wise, any quarterback in Bears history. Two dynamic
- 28:07Speaker 7: running backs, obviously, in there as well. And as we know,
- 28:10Speaker 7: because every year DJ Moore gets traded, they think Luther
- 28:13Speaker 7: Burden's ready to step up. So we'll see if he's
- 28:15Speaker 7: ready to step into that. Number two role. I don't
- 28:18Speaker 7: know about Roma Dunzey, what his foot situation is. Have
- 28:20Speaker 7: we got an update on him?
- 28:21Speaker 2: They said limited.
- 28:23Speaker 5: It's weird.
- 28:24Speaker 3: They practiced Tuesday and were off yesterday, so they did
- 28:27Speaker 3: like an estimation type injury report. But they said limited
- 28:31Speaker 3: for him. It sounds like he's probably going to play.
- 28:34Speaker 7: Yes, to some degree. So anyway, they're well-balanced. The tight ends,
- 28:37Speaker 7: like we talk about this every year. Can the Panthers
- 28:40Speaker 7: defense cover tight ends? They've got two good ones, especially Loveland, so...
- 28:43Speaker 7: That's going to be the thing. Is this defense prepared
- 28:45Speaker 7: to not lead in the seams over the middle with
- 28:48Speaker 7: the tight ends?
- 28:49Speaker 2: It's got to be better with Ward here. It's got
- 28:51Speaker 2: to be better.
- 28:52Speaker 4: I heard Eric Mangini talking about this yesterday with Danny
- 28:54Speaker 4: Parkins because Danny Parkins on First Things First, a Bears fan.
- 28:57Speaker 4: Mangini likes the Panthers this year. And he was, in
- 29:01Speaker 4: this particular game, not just this season, he was asking
- 29:03Speaker 4: Danny Parkins, what did the Bears add on offense this offseason?
- 29:07Speaker 2: The answer is nothing. You lost D.J.
- 29:09Speaker 4: Moore. You're hoping that Loveland, if you're a Bears person,
- 29:12Speaker 4: takes that leap. But their receiving group, it's not very deep,
- 29:16Speaker 4: by the way. So a doomsday, if he's not in
- 29:18Speaker 4: there healthy, that's a big problem for them.
- 29:20Speaker 2: Yeah. They do not have a lot of wide receiver depth.
- 29:22Speaker 7: On the team.
- 29:22Speaker 3: It is. That's true, man. That's definitely true. But their
- 29:24Speaker 3: run game, their tight ends are top notch. We got
- 29:29Speaker 3: Jim Zoki with us here for another minute or another
- 29:31Speaker 3: couple minutes or so. Zoki, what do you think about Bryce?
- 29:34Speaker 3: We can't do a Panther interview without asking a Bryce question.
- 29:37Speaker 2: Do you need Dan Morgan's number? What do you need?
- 29:39Speaker 3: Ha!
- 29:41Speaker 2: Later.
- 29:43Speaker 4: That's a David Tepper press conference reference. More on that later.
- 29:47Speaker 4: I have it, but I don't think he's going to
- 29:48Speaker 4: answer me on that one.
- 29:50Speaker 5: Tell me.
- 29:50Speaker 2: He didn't answer my question, Tepp.
- 29:52Speaker 3: What's your feeling? I feel like he's gotten better every
- 29:56Speaker 3: year in this league. And I feel like he will
- 29:59Speaker 3: make another jump. But it's just like, how big, you
- 30:02Speaker 3: know what I mean? How big is that jump? Like,
- 30:04Speaker 3: is that similar? Like, how do you kind of feel
- 30:06Speaker 3: like Bryce is going to play?
- 30:08Speaker 9: I think, you know, what you said, he's gotten better
- 30:10Speaker 9: every year.
- 30:11Speaker 7: And I think, you know, Dave Tepper said this yesterday.
- 30:14Speaker 7: Everyone's kind of, you know, on the same boat with this, like, consistency. Like,
- 30:17Speaker 7: we've seen, it doesn't happen a lot, but we've seen
- 30:19Speaker 7: some of the 400, 350-yard passing games. And I guess
- 30:22Speaker 7: not about your fantasy stats, but. Then you have one
- 30:25Speaker 7: that's like 120 and the offense just isn't moving. So
- 30:29Speaker 7: need more consistent performances from him. And again, just with
- 30:33Speaker 7: Brad Idzik in there, it'll be interesting to see how
- 30:35Speaker 7: they put him in the best position to succeed with
- 30:37Speaker 7: getting him where he has open passing lanes. I think
- 30:39Speaker 7: they're playing it exactly the right way. Let it play
- 30:41Speaker 7: out on the field. You don't have to do it
- 30:43Speaker 7: in advance. You can do it in the timing that
- 30:46Speaker 7: they're going for right now. Let's see some more evidence
- 30:49Speaker 7: on the field this year. before you commit a lot
- 30:51Speaker 7: of salary cap space and years to that position right
- 30:53Speaker 7: again part two of that is you if you don't
- 30:57Speaker 7: you have to have a solid plan you can't just
- 30:59Speaker 7: be like we're moving off of that and here we
- 31:02Speaker 7: go with a mid to late first round draft pick
- 31:04Speaker 7: like we just had a similar season to last year
- 31:06Speaker 7: something along those lines because it's not Kenny Pickett and
- 31:09Speaker 7: it's developmental with Haynes King to see him to be
- 31:11Speaker 7: even a number two quarterback in this league so what
- 31:14Speaker 7: are your realistic options of like you know what would
- 31:16Speaker 7: be the plan if you were to move off that
- 31:18Speaker 7: to find your starting quarterback so That's the two-part thing
- 31:21Speaker 7: is like, yeah, you've got– sometimes you slow play it
- 31:25Speaker 7: and you look at what you got and you have
- 31:26Speaker 7: to make that evaluation. But on the other hand, if
- 31:28Speaker 7: you do make a big decision, where are you going
- 31:30Speaker 7: to go? Because as you can see, it can also
- 31:33Speaker 7: set you back if you don't have the right guy
- 31:35Speaker 7: that comes in as a replacement.
- 31:36Speaker 3: That's what I was saying earlier, Bone, and I know
- 31:37Speaker 3: you and I have talked about this too. Like there's
- 31:40Speaker 3: no guarantee if you go and say, we're going to
- 31:43Speaker 3: use a first-round pick, right? We're moving on from Bryce.
- 31:46Speaker 3: There's no guarantee he's as good as Bryce even, right?
- 31:49Speaker 3: Surely he could be better ultimately, and it could take time, right?
- 31:53Speaker 3: So that could set you back a little bit, having
- 31:54Speaker 3: a rookie QB. But there's no guarantee. Look at Will
- 31:57Speaker 3: Levis and Anthony Richardson from his very same draft class.
- 32:00Speaker 2: You could draft that. No, 1,000% right. That was an
- 32:07Speaker 2: intense mm-hmm. You really agreed with that.
- 32:09Speaker 9: I thought he was going to start texting somebody else.
- 32:12Speaker 2: I was into that one. No, that was my mm-hmm.
- 32:14Speaker 2: All right, Zug.
- 32:16Speaker 4: What an honor for you. Thursday today.
- 32:19Speaker 3: I know.
- 32:20Speaker 2: Back in on Monday.
- 32:21Speaker 9: We had the Labor Day holiday, so we'll have the
- 32:23Speaker 9: quick turnaround here.
- 32:25Speaker 3: Oh, ECU fans are asking about the App State matchup.
- 32:27Speaker 3: This is a weird one because I don't know what
- 32:30Speaker 3: we know about ECU because of what happened at Bama, right?
- 32:33Speaker 2: Because it's Bama on the road.
- 32:35Speaker 3: And I don't know, even though I was impressed by
- 32:37Speaker 3: App State putting up 50-something, winning by 50 as a
- 32:41Speaker 3: 17-point favorite over Maine, it was Maine.
- 32:43Speaker 2: I don't know what it means. Like, do you have
- 32:45Speaker 2: a feeling?
- 32:45Speaker 7: There was very little, you're right, there was very little
- 32:48Speaker 7: evaluation overall for an ECU team playing above their weight class,
- 32:52Speaker 7: and then the same, as you said, in reverse, App
- 32:54Speaker 7: State at home against a team that's gone 16-32 over
- 32:58Speaker 7: the last number of years under the coach they have
- 33:00Speaker 7: right now. So this will be, obviously, this will be
- 33:03Speaker 7: the closest barometer seeing what these two teams can do.
- 33:05Speaker 7: And in not only college football, in the group of
- 33:07Speaker 7: six in particular, like ECU had 14 players elevate up
- 33:11Speaker 7: to power four. So on top of graduations and everything else,
- 33:14Speaker 7: they've had so many players move up. It takes a
- 33:16Speaker 7: little while to get You need game reps to figure
- 33:19Speaker 7: out exactly what you got. We're still not sure of
- 33:21Speaker 7: Mitch Griffiths, what he can be at quarterback, and that's
- 33:23Speaker 7: a very important thing right now. I will say Singleton
- 33:26Speaker 7: looked terrific for App State. Malachi Singleton, again, understanding the competition,
- 33:31Speaker 7: but 22 out of 24 passing, three touchdowns.
- 33:33Speaker 9: So I think it's going to be a fun matchup.
- 33:34Speaker 7: Of course, it's in Greenville, so that little bit of
- 33:36Speaker 7: benefit to Get those Mountain Boys out in the heat out.
- 33:39Speaker 2: There a little bit.
- 33:40Speaker 9: Noon kickoff on a Saturday.
- 33:42Speaker 2: Are you talking about the fans tailgating?
- 33:43Speaker 3: We got to tailgate early, too.
- 33:44Speaker 9: It's ECU favored by 7.5.
- 33:45Speaker 2: 87% of the money right now is on ECU.
- 33:52Speaker 4: But 75% of the spread is being bet towards App State.
- 33:56Speaker 2: Seven and a half. Yeah.
- 33:58Speaker 3: I think I'd take the seven and a half. I'm
- 34:00Speaker 3: going back and forth on the game. I think ECU
- 34:03Speaker 3: is better, though. So I would go ECU at home
- 34:05Speaker 3: with the win.
- 34:06Speaker 9: It's an interesting matchup.
- 34:07Speaker 7: And then, real quick, ECU then goes on the road
- 34:10Speaker 7: with another Sunbelt Conference team at Old Dominion, which won
- 34:13Speaker 7: 10 games last year. I know the quarterback had moved
- 34:15Speaker 7: to Wisconsin. So it'll be interesting. I think it's a
- 34:18Speaker 7: barometer over the next two weeks for ECU. And again—
- 34:22Speaker 7: Maybe sometimes when you start with a team like Alabama,
- 34:24Speaker 7: everything else should seem slower and easier, so it doesn't
- 34:26Speaker 7: guarantee victories. But the pace of the game, the tempo, again,
- 34:31Speaker 7: you couldn't get into a rhythm of any kind offensively.
- 34:33Speaker 7: This will allow, again, new play caller for us from
- 34:35Speaker 7: North Texas with Jordan Davis. the opportunity to get in
- 34:38Speaker 7: there and really work the offense and run it the
- 34:40Speaker 7: way they want.
- 34:40Speaker 3: That's a great point. Zoki, the voice of ECU football.
- 34:44Speaker 3: In case you're wondering, why are we asking Zoki? Zoki's
- 34:46Speaker 3: the voice of ECU football. In addition to the Panthers.
- 34:49Speaker 9: Adam Witten's not here to defend App State.
- 34:51Speaker 3: You can say whatever you want. All right, Zoki, thank you, brother.
- 34:55Speaker 9: Enjoy it.
- 34:55Speaker 3: All right, Jim Zoki joining us on the Mac and
- 34:57Speaker 3: Bone show.
- 34:58Speaker 4: Let's go to Finney with a quick update because he's
- 35:00Speaker 4: got a nugget of information from Jake Fisher involving the Hornets.
- 35:04Speaker 2: That may interest you, Finney.
- 35:05Speaker 4: Oh, fit.
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- 35:45Speaker 5: Mack, the rumors, they will not go away.
- 35:47Speaker 6: Around a possible trade involving the Hornets and the Kings
- 35:52Speaker 6: for DeMontis Sabonis. We're about two weeks away from the
- 35:57Speaker 6: start of NBA training camp, believe it or not. About
- 36:00Speaker 6: three weeks away before they take the court to open
- 36:02Speaker 6: the preseason. And maybe, just maybe, GM Jeff Peterson has
- 36:06Speaker 6: one more move to make before the preseason gets started
- 36:09Speaker 6: here for the Hornets.
- 36:10Speaker 4: Yeah, per Jake Fisher, Mack. The Hornets are still or
- 36:13Speaker 4: could still be in the mix for Sabonis, depending on
- 36:16Speaker 4: what the King's asking price is. Hornets do have a
- 36:20Speaker 4: lot of guys on the roster that they could move,
- 36:22Speaker 4: but our friend Owen Watterson of SI points out, hard
- 36:25Speaker 4: to see the Hornets making any moves without getting assets back.
- 36:29Speaker 4: Their MO has been collecting assets. Can they get Sabonis
- 36:33Speaker 4: and assets? Don't know, but those rumors have been out there.
- 36:37Speaker 4: He's our new Miles Turner, by the way, Sabonis is.
- 36:40Speaker 4: It feels like it's never quite going away. I don't
- 36:42Speaker 4: know what to think of this because I had given
- 36:44Speaker 4: up on that one. I liked it way back in
- 36:45Speaker 4: the day, but that's when we had LaMelo. And back
- 36:47Speaker 4: in the day, I mean a few months ago.
- 36:50Speaker 3: So I had kind of settled myself to we're going
- 36:52Speaker 3: to make our big move in the future. So this
- 36:56Speaker 3: one kind of hits me out of left field. I'm
- 36:58Speaker 3: a Sabonis guy, but you're right.
- 36:59Speaker 2: I thought.
- 37:01Speaker 4: That was done. Now I don't know. I have to
- 37:03Speaker 4: reanalyze the roster and how it works with Sabonis.
- 37:07Speaker 2: Does he fit as well?
- 37:08Speaker 4: Because we thought that LaMelo-Sabonis pick-and-roll game would be the
- 37:13Speaker 4: cat's meow, as the kids say.
- 37:15Speaker 2: We thought so.
- 37:15Speaker 3: But I'll start thinking about that after I get done.
- 37:18Speaker 3: I'm working on my... In-depth projections for the season, Bone.
- 37:22Speaker 3: I am going to predict on tomorrow's show the result
- 37:25Speaker 3: of every quarter of every game this season for the Carolina.
- 37:28Speaker 4: Panthers, baby.
- 37:29Speaker 2: We going deep, but tune in anyway tomorrow.
- 37:32Speaker 4: When we come back, Pat Jones is out Sunday versus
- 37:34Speaker 4: the Bears, so we're down two edges against a great offense.
- 37:39Speaker 4: How worried does the loss of Big Pat impact our
- 37:42Speaker 4: thoughts on the game? Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
- 37:49Speaker 6: Thank you.
- 38:08Speaker 8: Pat's deal related to his back surgery from last year? Unrelated,
- 38:13Speaker 8: just an aggravation of a different side of it. We
- 38:17Speaker 8: were able to get ahead of it, treat it. We
- 38:19Speaker 8: do not expect him to play this week, but he'll
- 38:21Speaker 8: be week to week. We're hoping that we can get
- 38:24Speaker 8: him turned around pretty quickly. Again, with those issues, we've
- 38:28Speaker 8: got to be smart about this and make sure that
- 38:30Speaker 8: we're bringing him back with the right cadence and making
- 38:34Speaker 8: sure he's ready to go.
- 38:36Speaker 3: All right, that is what Coach Canales had to say
- 38:38Speaker 3: about Pat Jones yesterday.
- 38:40Speaker 2: It sucks. It's not ideal, man.
- 38:43Speaker 3: I mean, when we have talked about not having Nick Gordon,
- 38:47Speaker 3: and I hate it for Nick, hate it for the team.
- 38:49Speaker 2: He is such a dog.
- 38:51Speaker 3: But one of the things that has kept me feeling
- 38:54Speaker 3: good about this defense is I think Pat Jones is
- 38:57Speaker 3: an underrated baller and a guy like Nick Gordon that
- 39:00Speaker 3: can play the pass and the run, you know? And
- 39:03Speaker 3: I feel like he's almost like getting a new addition,
- 39:07Speaker 3: you know, because he only played a few games last year. Well,
- 39:10Speaker 3: now it on Sunday against the bears and maybe for
- 39:13Speaker 3: the first, I don't know, a couple of weeks here,
- 39:15Speaker 3: it doesn't seem like a long thing, but it seems like,
- 39:17Speaker 3: you know, it could be a couple of few weeks.
- 39:20Speaker 3: We're not going to have Pat Jones either. So now
- 39:23Speaker 3: we got to deal with this all preseason. We've been
- 39:25Speaker 3: trying to deal with how we at offensive tackle. Does
- 39:29Speaker 3: this make you, you know, we're going to be all
- 39:31Speaker 3: about our game predictions tomorrow on the show. And do
- 39:34Speaker 3: we Panther up? Does this give you pause bone to
- 39:37Speaker 3: like change the way you're thinking about the game?
- 39:39Speaker 2: Or do you think, Nah, they can work around this.
- 39:43Speaker 2: How do you view this?
- 39:44Speaker 4: I think they can work around it. It's certainly not ideal.
- 39:46Speaker 4: I worry about Pat Jones, Mac, in the long term
- 39:49Speaker 4: because I know that Canales said it's not the same
- 39:53Speaker 4: part of the back as last year, but it is
- 39:55Speaker 4: the same body part that he was hurt with last year.
- 39:59Speaker 4: So I'm concerned that he's never just going to be
- 40:02Speaker 4: quite healthy enough with the back. But that remains to
- 40:04Speaker 4: be seen. There's just a lot of pressure, Mac, now
- 40:07Speaker 4: on the other guys. Think about when camp started.
- 40:10Speaker 2: It was.
- 40:11Speaker 4: princely was in a certain role pat jones had a
- 40:13Speaker 4: role scorton was seen as the guy scorton goes out
- 40:16Speaker 4: now jones goes out that moves princely up but that
- 40:19Speaker 4: also moves the backups up to more spots as well
- 40:22Speaker 4: so the depth on the the edge there opposite jaylen
- 40:26Speaker 4: phillips now certainly.
- 40:28Speaker 2: I i don't see how we're not worried.
- 40:30Speaker 4: About at least the depth of that spot right now
- 40:32Speaker 4: i know man it sucks i hate it because i
- 40:34Speaker 4: mean princely i mean princely not only has to in
- 40:37Speaker 4: the immediate but princely's got to perform at a high
- 40:40Speaker 4: level princely's got to remain healthy too because there's not
- 40:43Speaker 4: a lot of bodies behind him right now that you
- 40:45Speaker 4: really fully trust.
- 40:46Speaker 3: I hate it for him first and foremost bone because
- 40:50Speaker 3: like he came here to carolina off the seven sack
- 40:53Speaker 3: season in minnesota and i thought he started pretty well
- 40:57Speaker 3: and i wanted to see what we'd get from him
- 40:59Speaker 3: and so i and then and then gone and and
- 41:02Speaker 3: you don't want to mess around with a back You know,
- 41:04Speaker 3: a guy that plays that rugged game, you don't want
- 41:07Speaker 3: to mess around with a back injury. So I do
- 41:08Speaker 3: worry a little bit, Bone, about the fact it's a back. Like,
- 41:11Speaker 3: that is a little concerning. As far, although Dave said
- 41:15Speaker 3: it in the clip, you heard it, different part of
- 41:17Speaker 3: the back or whatever. So I won't claim to be
- 41:18Speaker 3: some sort of medical expert. Those things can last a while.
- 41:22Speaker 3: Those back injuries are... And can they recur and stuff
- 41:24Speaker 3: like that? So I do worry about that. As far
- 41:26Speaker 3: as this game, the best thing I could say to
- 41:29Speaker 3: rally the troops in Panther Nation mentally is, remember when
- 41:34Speaker 3: we beat the Rams last year, Bone, at home in
- 41:37Speaker 3: the regular season game?
- 41:39Speaker 2: We did not have J.C.
- 41:40Speaker 3: Horn and Trayvon Merrick in that game.
- 41:44Speaker 2: Good point.
- 41:44Speaker 3: Maybe the best moment of our season, right? That or
- 41:47Speaker 3: the win at Lambeau. And we did not have those
- 41:49Speaker 3: two guys. Like when you look back at it, How
- 41:53Speaker 3: unlikely was that?
- 41:54Speaker 2: I remember. Well, I was giving them no chance.
- 41:57Speaker 3: And Sunshine Sammy Farber, voice of the Hornets, had to
- 42:00Speaker 3: tell me, oh, y'all can win this game. And I
- 42:03Speaker 3: thought that offense, the MVP, you know, in waiting, and
- 42:08Speaker 3: he did go on to win it against that secondary
- 42:11Speaker 3: without Horn and Merrick. I thought we were donezo. And
- 42:14Speaker 3: that defense went out there, forced multiple turnovers. and Bryce
- 42:18Speaker 3: made plays, and they won the game. So I just
- 42:20Speaker 3: want to drop that in. Like, if we can win
- 42:22Speaker 3: with those two guys out, Bone, our defense, I still
- 42:25Speaker 3: feel like, can hold its own against a really good
- 42:28Speaker 3: offense if you don't have Skorton or Pat Jones. But
- 42:31Speaker 3: you said, Princely's got to step up, man.
- 42:33Speaker 2: And I think a guy like.
- 42:35Speaker 4: keeps mounting on him with all these guys that go
- 42:37Speaker 4: out we we thought all right princely may not be
- 42:40Speaker 4: on the level of scoring right now but he can
- 42:41Speaker 4: have an effective role and now all of a sudden
- 42:43Speaker 4: princely goes from okay i i see the vision of
- 42:46Speaker 4: what he may add early on at camp to oh
- 42:49Speaker 4: princely's got to be a huge part of this now.
- 42:51Speaker 3: I think he could be ready to get after it
- 42:53Speaker 3: but by the way those guys are going to be
- 42:55Speaker 3: on the side with the backup tackle braxton jones who's
- 42:58Speaker 3: starting because ozzy trapillo is still out they're starting left
- 43:01Speaker 3: tackle So I think Prince can get after it. But
- 43:04Speaker 3: the question is, who shows up on rundowns? Pat Jones
- 43:07Speaker 3: was going to play the rundown opposite Phillips. Two real
- 43:10Speaker 3: good run edge setters. So who does that? I think
- 43:13Speaker 3: one of my low-key favorites... Travis Gibson, who I thought
- 43:18Speaker 3: had a great preseason and I thought produced more than
- 43:22Speaker 3: people realized last year. I think he's a kid that
- 43:24Speaker 3: could have a hell of a game on Sunday. I
- 43:27Speaker 3: was going to say Saturday. There are a couple of
- 43:28Speaker 3: old dogs still out there unsigned. Leonard Floyd Mack is
- 43:32Speaker 3: still out there. And Kyle Van Noy, who we talked
- 43:34Speaker 3: about along the way, they're older. But I'm just trying
- 43:37Speaker 3: to look.
- 43:37Speaker 4: At some guys that are out there because I'm just
- 43:40Speaker 4: very fearful of any more injuries in that spot. And
- 43:43Speaker 4: that's a serious problem. Yeah, he might be a problem.
- 43:45Speaker 2: I know, man.
- 43:46Speaker 3: You haven't even started the season, but hopefully the Pat
- 43:49Speaker 3: Jones thing will not be very long and he will
- 43:52Speaker 3: be back. Got a got a text that says Mac
- 43:57Speaker 3: Caleb Williams and one of the best offenses in football.
- 44:00Speaker 3: and we ain't going to have any pass rush.
- 44:02Speaker 2: Sorry, y'all. I ain't buying the optimism.
- 44:05Speaker 4: Well, there could still be pass rush. Jalen Phillips is
- 44:07Speaker 4: still in there now. There's still guys that could rush.
- 44:09Speaker 4: We're just talking about that specific spot on the line here.
- 44:12Speaker 4: There's other guys that are still out there for this team.
- 44:14Speaker 4: Defense will still be good.
- 44:15Speaker 2: It's just.
- 44:16Speaker 3: It's a concerning spot right now. I mean, I think
- 44:18Speaker 3: Prinsley can get some pass rush. I thought he had
- 44:20Speaker 3: a great preseason, other than the Canton game, when he
- 44:22Speaker 3: thought he was going to be in a track suit, Bone,
- 44:24Speaker 3: and got the memo, unfortunately, you would be playing. And
- 44:26Speaker 3: he seemed like a guy that didn't think he was
- 44:28Speaker 3: going to be playing. But ever since then, I thought
- 44:30Speaker 3: he really, really showed out. And you cannot deny his athleticism.
- 44:35Speaker 3: You can't deny the bend he's got off the edge.
- 44:38Speaker 3: The spin move is quick. Like, he's got pass rush skills.
- 44:43Speaker 3: It's just, I think he's going to have to play
- 44:45Speaker 3: a little more now on first down. against the run
- 44:47Speaker 3: and i'm a little concerned will that edge be set
- 44:50Speaker 3: but i really believe if we can get them into
- 44:51Speaker 3: predictable passing situations and you also worry about caleb williams
- 44:55Speaker 3: bone his scrambling ability he's one of the best scrambling
- 44:58Speaker 3: qbs in the league um princely is the type of
- 45:01Speaker 3: guy that could chase him and pull him down there
- 45:05Speaker 3: you don't say that about a lot of defensive.
- 45:07Speaker 4: Linemen Yeah, that's a key part of the game is
- 45:11Speaker 4: those off-script plays that Caleb Williams makes. That's a huge
- 45:15Speaker 4: part because that's sometimes when he's at his best is
- 45:18Speaker 4: when you think of the plays dead and all of
- 45:20Speaker 4: a sudden Williams unleashes some ridiculous throw or makes some play.
- 45:23Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right.
- 45:24Speaker 3: This texter says, are we sleeping on Princely? He had
- 45:26Speaker 3: huge plays last year. Yeah, he had those flashes, whereas
- 45:29Speaker 3: Skorton was way more consistent. But there's talent there, man.
- 45:33Speaker 3: I said it earlier in the show. You asked Buck
- 45:36Speaker 3: a great question. Brenton Buckner was on with us yesterday.
- 45:38Speaker 3: You asked him an awesome question and got a great answer.
- 45:41Speaker 3: Like you said, hey, Buck, other than the star players,
- 45:44Speaker 3: are there any young, like under-the-radar guys that when you
- 45:47Speaker 3: were out of practice at training camp, that you noticed
- 45:51Speaker 3: and you're like, whoa, this guy's going to be good.
- 45:54Speaker 3: And he went to Princely. I thought he might say
- 45:55Speaker 3: Lee Hunter, who he likes. He went to Princely and
- 45:58Speaker 3: explained why he thinks that is a baller and waiting man.
- 46:03Speaker 2: Yeah, check out that interview, Apple, Spotify. Great stuff with
- 46:05Speaker 2: Buck yesterday. We come back.
- 46:07Speaker 4: Sounds of the Panthers, David Tepper edition. As the owner
- 46:11Speaker 4: of the Panthers does a presser, he only does once
- 46:15Speaker 4: every few years. Hear that sound next. Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.