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Third Bass: The Untold Story of Trinidad’s Urban Radio Revolution · Corie Sheppard Podcast

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_03: I've always loved music ever since a little boy.
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  SPEAKER_03: I always knew that I wanted to be a DJ.
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  SPEAKER_03: I wanted to be on radio and I wanted to be an artist.
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  SPEAKER_03: I tell people I live my dream every day.
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  SPEAKER_03: That was all I wanted to do.
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  SPEAKER_03: All I wanted to do.
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  SPEAKER_03: I never I never had any boy days.
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  SPEAKER_03: Up to this day, I can't ride a bike.
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  SPEAKER_03: I remember people in Mova were very proud of me as a young person because remember I was on the radio with people like Paul Richards and Yandy Goose Elegro and Glenn Anton and professionals.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was like a youth, youth, youth, youth and radio.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_03: You know, so I mean people were very, very proud.
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  SPEAKER_03: They always wanted to be artists, but I was like a little rapping and thing.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_03: I used to get carried away with that rapping.
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  SPEAKER_03: But they're rapping and say, no, they would rapping children.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_03: Blow your whistle.
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  SPEAKER_03: If you want to say I have an old soul, yes, I have an old soul.
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_03: But I like my new thing too.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: I like some of them new dance sold things.
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  SPEAKER_03: No too, you know, bites.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm in love with it.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_03: But I really like thick women.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm in love with thick women.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_03: But they really never think thick thick.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, but at least you know what they say.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_03: Once the watchman, once it's a good melody, that's one thing you can't run away.
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  SPEAKER_03: Third bass had no time to waste.
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  SPEAKER_03: 100% music straight to your face on 96.1.
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  SPEAKER_03: FM, FM.
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  SPEAKER_03: Come back to that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right to him here.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I say, well, bass, no time to waste.
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  SPEAKER_03: At least they could get that because it's familiar to them.
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  SPEAKER_03: And they get it here.
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  SPEAKER_03: Bass no time to waste.
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  SPEAKER_03: You and no line.
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  Corie: Mommy looked on.
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  Corie: Hi, before we get started, we wanted to take a moment to ask you to support the channel for free by liking, sharing, and subscribing.
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  Corie: Those are the three things that we realize you're not doing as much as you all say enjoying the conversation.
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  Corie: So please, we appreciate your support.
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  Corie: Let's get into today's conversation.
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  Corie: Welcome to the Corey Shepherd Podcast.
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  Corie: My name is Corey Shepherd.
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  Corie: Welcome back to everybody who's been listening.
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  Corie: Thanks for all the new people who tune in.
• 2:00
  Corie: Today we have a man who I want to refer to as a pioneer.
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  Corie: He's one of the first men in urban radio, one of the first singing.
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  Corie: They used to say singing songman and them kind of thing.
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  Corie: I feel like the first singing songman yesterday.
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  Corie: DJ, artist, businessman, entrepreneur.
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  Corie: Are you going, man?
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  Corie: All right, cool, man.
• 2:15
  Corie: Welcome to the show.
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  SPEAKER_03: Usually bass and no time to waste.
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  SPEAKER_03: We will we will go through the toilet bass, sir.
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  SPEAKER_03: Base a kid trilogy and now bass, no time to waste.
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  Corie: Well, we go through all your all.
• 2:23
  Corie: We can start at the start with to base.
• 2:25
  Corie: I feel like I'm gonna start today, right?
• 2:26
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 2:27
  Corie: You walk here with a gentleman by the name of Terrence Stewart, you know?
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  SPEAKER_03: I'm a brother, man.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man.
• 2:31
  Corie: How do the relations just start by that man?
• 2:32
  Corie: I don't talk about a little bit of rock star.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_03: We met um at the gym because at that time I wanted the gym out of them.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, boy.
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  SPEAKER_03: So, like I think that was even in 2015, 2015 going in the 2016.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Started gym in uh gym and um Shotobo Fitness, as in now.
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  SPEAKER_03: St.
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  SPEAKER_03: James.
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  SPEAKER_03: St.
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  SPEAKER_03: James, you know, St.
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  SPEAKER_03: James.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I met him there, man.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, good guy, good guy.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, good.
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  SPEAKER_03: Friends ever since.
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  Corie: Yeah, yeah, good, good, dude.
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  Corie: That's a man I grew up with from small.
• 2:57
  Corie: But now that I hear all the meeting the gym, I should probably come off of that conversation.
• 3:00
  Corie: That's why I ain't going at all.
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  Corie: Yeah, no, it's something you posted the other day I want to ask you about before we get into the details and the history, right?
• 3:07
  Corie: Because I want to tell people too, it's a history lesson and know the man who works with records.
• 3:10
  Corie: It's all people never see these things you work with here today.
• 3:12
  Corie: Yeah, but you post something recently, and I saw this story going viral, and I was real interested that you make time to say something about it.
• 3:20
  Corie: You're usually vocal on social media, on radio, and so on, you give your opinion.
• 3:24
  Corie: But young Nineye, I want to read something you say here, right?
• 3:26
  Corie: Right, right, yeah.
• 3:28
  Corie: Let me see if I could read now.
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  Corie: Bluffing enough.
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  Corie: If the 13 year old had sung a song with positive lyrics becoming of her age, would it be shared and talked about like it is now?
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  Corie: Facts.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Facts.
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  SPEAKER_03: I mean, um, alright.
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  SPEAKER_03: Just the other day there was a there was a young man who did a kind of a song which we deem.
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  SPEAKER_03: Two things here.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's the sexist thing and of course the moral thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right?
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, is a young man who did a song where he did over where they're robbing people, a bunch of young boys robbing people.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_03: I ain't seen nothing about that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Nothing, nothing, nothing.
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  SPEAKER_03: But it's young 99 you know, they think tight.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_03: So you say no uproar when he's saying that.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_03: No uproar when he's saying that.
• 4:00
  SPEAKER_03: I mean we'll one or two people.
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  SPEAKER_03: I posted that too.
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  SPEAKER_03: I said, where is the uproar here?
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  SPEAKER_03: Who's telling them that this is wrong?
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_03: Right, nobody's saying this is wrong, it's just as wrong.
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  SPEAKER_03: But because he's a boy, it might be considered okay, right?
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_03: But young 99, and she has with uh, you know, of course, uh mother said that she has been putting out positive music, and there are a lot of artists that have been putting out positive music.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_03: Some of them zest artists, and you know, been putting out positive music, you know, so then there's nothing, no, you know, no fanfare, nothing.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_03: But as soon as you put out something like that, oh my god, that's wrong.
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  SPEAKER_03: How you could do that, you know, and you're pro, but it's just that we just have a kind of double standards.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not saying that it was right, the right thing for her to do, but I'm just saying that sometimes we the John Public had to look back and say, you know, days we fault.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 4:39
  Corie: I like I really appreciate that you say that.
• 4:41
  Corie: And when you say John public, we particularly the older people who run to social media to comment about these things.
• 4:46
  Corie: I wonder personally, sometimes if it's remember, is that 13 year old we're talking about?
• 4:50
  Corie: I'm not saying she was right either, and I'm not saying the mother was right.
• 4:53
  Corie: I my son is 13.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
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  Corie: And I say, Boy, if my son sing this, I don't know that I would have stopped him to be honest with you.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_03: I doubt your son will be singing tight and pretty.
• 5:00
  Corie: Well, you never know.
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  Corie: This is modern times, you know.
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  Corie: But the thing about it is like artistic expression is what it is.
• 5:09
  Corie: Exactly.
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  Corie: The way I raised my son, I might alarm if you want to sing your thing, or like you say, if he's singing about rubbing people, he never grew up so.
• 5:15
  Corie: So if you're singing that, I would say, brother, yeah.
• 5:17
  Corie: I know if you could put his out in public, right?
• 5:19
  Corie: But you write a song, I would not stop him from writing or coming up with an idea.
• 5:24
  Corie: Creative.
• 5:25
  Corie: I don't know if people understand that creativity though, right?
• 5:27
  Corie: Yeah, some people get it ultimately.
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  SPEAKER_03: You live what you sing about, you live your life.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of artists who sing about how rich they are and think they're broke, of course.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, a lot of artists who sing about drugs and they smoke weed, they don't smoke.
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  SPEAKER_03: A lot of artists who sing about the drink, they don't drink.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, like when look at Little Vicious, I don't know if you remember the song.
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  SPEAKER_03: Some gala free, some gala free, caddy week.
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  SPEAKER_03: That was he was 13 years old with doggy fresh when he brought out that song.
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  SPEAKER_03: And these same people who complain about Lil Line I was winding and jumping up to that song in the club back in the days.
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  SPEAKER_03: 100%.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was one.
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  Corie: I was one.
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  Corie: 100%.
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  Corie: And I feel like if as as as let me talk as trend bigonians now, I feel like, and I was really encouraged when I see you in particular say something about it because it's a very difficult thing to defend, but I know he's a man outspoken.
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  Corie: Yeah, but I feel like we must still remember this is a 13-year-old girl.
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  Corie: We have trans this is somebody who's gonna be the future of the country.
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  Corie: Even if you're even I find like sometimes we forget that you could sing people praises loud on social media, but you can whisper to them when they're wrong or they do something different.
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  Corie: We could have pulled the girl one side and work with us or see you.
• 6:22
  SPEAKER_03: But I mean she put it out in public, and when you put out something in public domain, that's how it is right now, especially on the internet.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_03: But we had to remember the youths.
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  SPEAKER_03: I remember there was a time when I wrote um, about in 2017, I wrote to our two telecommunications companies.
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  SPEAKER_03: I tell them, yes, you know what?
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  SPEAKER_03: Instead of we giving artists all this money, now that I'm not fighting on the artists all this money on sports, and giving them the endorsement and all that money.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_03: I think why don't we take that to a young person who's doing something positive in school?
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, I mean it never went out.
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  SPEAKER_03: I even I think I even call it the Yeah program, the youth appreciation program.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_03: Like Johnny passing on the highway and say, Boy, look, Michael boy, that man gets an endorsement from so-so-so.
• 6:58
  SPEAKER_03: Boy, I want to do good in school too, you know.
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  SPEAKER_03: I want to do something good and that would, you know, don't you know if father would have gone or could go?
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  SPEAKER_03: 100%.
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  Corie: Because the thing about it is when uh when she puts out a song like that, she gets the attention that she's good or bad.
• 7:12
  Corie: Yeah, I think it encourages other people now to take the chance.
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  Corie: If he puts up for the positive things that she does like I was just reading that thing with Gialano, Jelano's music was used to be consciousness.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_03: It was conscious.
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  SPEAKER_03: I tell you, I used to play conscious music, you know.
• 7:24
  Corie: Yeah, but we people will turn into what we reward as a society too.
• 7:28
  Corie: Some exactly.
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  Corie: And I know he's a man as well as a speaker for the youth.
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  Corie: So I appreciate you taking the time to say that.
• 7:32
  Corie: Yeah, man.
• 7:33
  Corie: Let me go to the opposite spectrum of the youths now.
• 7:34
  Corie: Let me talk about David and themselves and them, you know.
• 7:37
  Corie: You had a show the other day called Flowers and Powers.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I do it.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for you.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_03: I enjoy it and we're still doing it.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, do I do it um well every Thursday?
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_03: I do it.
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_03: One week I would do the flowers and pause because I believe you know people are alive, give them the flowers.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_03: I also do something called Gone But Not Forgotten the week after.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_03: People who are gone, yeah, you know, to praise among some.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_03: So I do that every Thursday on 105.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_03: We do a retro Thursday.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_03: So we take it back.
• 7:57
  SPEAKER_03: So I try to interview.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_03: I only interview people like a July-August because it's kind of hard to do this like what you do everywhere.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_03: I know the patients are that, right?
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_03: But uh, we play the music, right?
• 8:06
  SPEAKER_03: But uh July, August, I would interview people and bring in people.
• 8:09
  Corie: Right.
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  Corie: So let me talk about the ones where they're gone but not forgotten.
• 8:11
  Corie: We used to do it, just give the education, play the music.
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, of course, like I did uh the time I did Darl Braxton, right?
• 8:16
  SPEAKER_03: Producer, I worked with him, of course.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_03: I played some of his music, I did tape some recording some his vocals, that kind of thing.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_03: And uh Shell Shock.
• 8:23
  SPEAKER_03: I did Shell Shock.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_03: Time I did our last year, I think I did producers, a bunch of producers.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_03: I would team Kenny Phillips, Ken Holder, you know, um chas.
• 8:30
  SPEAKER_03: What these people are the people don't even know the kind of music that these people that I would love to do um less than Paul, but you might take a whole day, you know.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_03: We would love to do less than maybe we should get him in all the time.
• 8:41
  SPEAKER_03: You don't wake up in the morning at all.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, they get less than poor when you wake.
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_03: I call less than Paul.
• 8:46
  SPEAKER_03: So lady, I don't think by the best.
• 8:53
  Corie: Well, yeah, but whoever gets enforced.
• 8:55
  Corie: If you get info, I'm coming by you and it's no, you might not go by him.
• 8:59
  SPEAKER_03: The sign will not come by your house, but well, maybe just do that in the morning sometime.
• 9:02
  Corie: Yeah, maybe that might make some sense.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_03: But you have to, we have to.
• 9:04
  Corie: No, no, no, it's you have to.
• 9:05
  Corie: And I saw some of them you're talking about.
• 9:06
  Corie: I saw Chassu, yeah, and I I think it's people I know, you know.
• 9:10
  Corie: But when I hear them talk to you, there's a lot of history and a lot of a lot of stuff that comes out that we could it could easily be forgotten.
• 9:16
  Corie: It could just go by the way.
• 9:18
  Corie: So we make you choose producers in particular.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_03: I just wanted to do um, I don't I don't know.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_03: I just I just like to be different.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_03: I said I'm gonna zoom in and produce instead of everybody just doing artists, artists, talk to artists.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_03: Let's do about people behind the scenes.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of people don't know it's not just the artists we see on the stage.
• 9:32
  SPEAKER_03: A lot goes behind the art, the producers, the writers, the managers, all these kind of things.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_03: So I just wanted to give the producers the flowers.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 9:41
  Corie: When you feature people like let's use Shell Shock as an example, you on radio, you get the feedback, and and thanks for always posting it on social media too.
• 9:48
  Corie: So if we miss it on radio, we could see it.
• 9:50
  Corie: You get a lot of feedback from people when you do it.
• 9:52
  Corie: What's the response?
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  SPEAKER_03: Boy, I didn't know you do all of that.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_03: Boy, I forget about the way look at that music now.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_03: And people just need to be reminded of things, you know.
• 10:02
  SPEAKER_03: Younger people pulling on to it.
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_03: A lot of younger people, a lot of young people with their parents and stuff, and boy, I didn't know.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_03: I get messages after sometimes.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_03: The the after what you get is more than what's what's happening there, boy.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you for doing this.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_03: I really didn't know all this was happening, but it's real education.
• 10:16
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 10:17
  Corie: When it comes to educators today, too.
• 10:19
  Corie: I see you bring something here.
• 10:20
  Corie: I see the police.
• 10:21
  Corie: The police when people bring the police, I get frightened all this.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, boy.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_03: Watch me.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_03: This is one of the first records I ever bought.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_03: You'll see.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_03: What's the year there?
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_03: What is the year?
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, yeah, it's 1982.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_03: 1982.
• 10:31
  SPEAKER_03: I was about 10 years old.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_03: Oh wow.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_03: 10 years old.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_03: Reiner's records.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_03: Imagine interested in this kind of music.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_03: Well, back in the days, it was only pop music and that kind of thing.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_03: Right before we took over with the dance hall and the hip hop, and then there's a next record I bought.
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_03: You see this?
• 10:43
  SPEAKER_03: Who is this?
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_03: Rolling Stones Rolling Stones, right?
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_03: And I'll check the year there.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_03: My name is Adrian Akshaw, the year in the corner there.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_03: So there's like the first, first bunch of records I ever I ever bought.
• 10:55
  Corie: Yeah, it's interesting because all the police, that's where Sting comes from, right?
• 10:57
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_03: Sting man Sting make Jagger Rolling Stone.
• 11:00
  Corie: Yeah, the first time I ever met you was in a record shopper.
• 11:02
  Corie: Oh, see yours?
• 11:03
  Corie: Yeah, by Gus.
• 11:06
  Corie: The first time I know radio, I programming and them thing, you know, because I think I hear in you, Jace all all you was on radio around the same time, different stations, I believe.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 11:13
  Corie: But um when you still leave the station, come by Gus by then there's your transition and a little bit from records to CDs by then.
• 11:20
  Corie: Yeah, and and and come and pick up your latest C.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_03: Gus, I remember Mario as well to have a record store, and where the nearly days would have been laundry at ETC, you know.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_03: Well, back in those days, 80s was Reinhards Ibrahim's Woolwood.
• 11:32
  Corie: Right.
• 11:33
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, Woolwood selling records, though.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_03: Woolwood, yeah.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_03: When we had Woolwood Dong Tong, where the um Excel and Mall is now, right?
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_03: There's a record store they called Woolwood Records.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_03: Gotcha, gotcha.
• 11:41
  Corie: So your earliest days in terms of loving music is DJing or we'll get into music because this is not what we hear you for, you know.
• 11:48
  Corie: We don't know you for Rolling Stones and police.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_03: Well, they know me for music.
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, people mightn't know me for that, but I've always loved music ever since uh a little boy.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_03: I always knew that I wanted to be a DJ, I wanted to be on radio, and I wanted to be an artist.
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_03: I tell people I live my my dream every day.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_03: That's all I wanted to do.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_03: All I wanted.
• 12:03
  SPEAKER_03: I never I never had any boy days up to this day.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_03: I can't ride a bike.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_03: I can't ride a bike.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_03: I I wasn't.
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_03: No, I can't ride a bike.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_03: I ain't shame when I watch them.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_03: When I come home from school, uh Sesame Shit, Ricky Tiki Radio.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you're talking about really young.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_03: What age you talking about?
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_03: I'm talking about eight, nine, what seven, eight, nine years old.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_03: I just think and my grandmother, well, I grew up with my grandmother and and aunts.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_03: They had a little gram where you put the record and thing on top and it for long and thing.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_03: At about six years old, five, six years, I was operating a winner, people build a party and thing, the little boy playing music and thing.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_03: So your parents was into music or they had music.
• 12:36
  Corie: But just one music.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_03: We always had records, you whole family.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_03: My mother had records, father had records.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_03: My father, every morning, is wake up, everybody no more, sleeping in bed.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_03: He had to play that song every single morning.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_03: Every day I wake up here and that.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_03: Right after that, it's Otis Redding.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_03: Well, my mother used to get a little chance because on Sunday you had to play hymns.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_03: Sunday you had to play your Mahalia Jackson and your hymns and them kind of thing, otherwise a fight.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_03: So, you know, so grew up with records, grow up with records, grow up with music.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I used to go sometimes they would take me to to shopping and doing tongue.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_03: They always had to go in tongue on a Saturday morning.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know for what.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_03: Always had to go in tongue on a Saturday, right?
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_03: And you had to go.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_03: You had to go.
• 13:13
  SPEAKER_03: You had to leave him home, I had to go.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_03: So you go in and tongue on a Saturday morning, and then we had to go by Rhiners because you come with one of the treats, you get a little record and thing on the back of them.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_03: 45 was about five dollars back in those days.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_03: Oh.
• 13:25
  SPEAKER_03: And I would go with them and stuff, and sometimes Miss Reiner herself, Diane Reiner, rest up, rest in peace.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_03: And some of the men in the store, big, big men, would be surprised how this little boy would be able to say, Look, I want to get that record on that record, and it's big tunes.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_03: I calling because I listened to the radio, I listen to David Elcock, Rennie B.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know what records to call for.
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_03: Until Miss Reiner said, at the time, I think my mama had something to do and she left me there.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_03: And Miss Reiner put me on the desk.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_03: And before you know I did selling records and things, and people used to come and to see the little fat boy, yeah.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_03: What he's doing, what record he won this week, and I selling records and things, and then after she would give me a record at the end of the day.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_03: Ah, okay, that's okay.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_03: That's how I started getting a little collection, right?
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_03: A collection of records and things.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_03: So that was that was real nice and random.
• 14:05
  Corie: You maintain that like you slow records up to today.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we have more records.
• 14:09
  Corie: If I could have more records I ever buy in my life, I have records because look how that thing swing back now.
• 14:15
  Corie: I see people buying back.
• 14:16
  Corie: Vinyl, yeah, vinyl yeah, something, especially in Europe and things.
• 14:19
  Corie: Yeah, did you explain vinyl?
• 14:20
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, it might be with some minute if you decide to sell that again.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and your original jacket.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_03: So, what primary school in then?
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_03: I went to um Rose.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_03: Of course, I went to Malik primary school.
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_03: Mova by primary?
• 14:32
  SPEAKER_03: Mova.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I was born in when I was born in Portispain, then moved to Curep, then Barataria, then moved to Mova later on.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_03: So I went to Rosie Boys, then after Trinity.
• 14:42
  Corie: Oh, yeah, Rosary Boys, yeah.
• 14:44
  Corie: But Trinity Men's one more Trinity mentioned something happened in Trinity.
• 14:50
  Corie: We had to find a bottle.
• 14:53
  Corie: And as early as that, you know, people studying book hunting and what they want to do.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_03: I used to work with records.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_03: I remember when Michael Jackson's thriller came out, and I get that, but I sleep with a record.
• 15:02
  SPEAKER_03: I went to school with that record.
• 15:04
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't want to let go of that at all, boy.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_03: Going to school with a record.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_03: I'm telling you.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_03: To play away playing in school.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_03: But I just had a record, I just wanted to dream that records take away.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_03: Actually, a record, man.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_03: It was a common thing.
• 15:16
  Corie: Like you have plenty of youths doing that, or you wasn't.
• 15:18
  Corie: No, I was the only one.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_03: I was the only one.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't, I didn't care.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_03: I was the only one.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_03: I was into my music.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_03: I used to sometimes pretend that I was even on the radio.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes earlier, I didn't used to go outside and play with nobody until my parents probably was glad.
• 15:29
  SPEAKER_03: But I did use, I used to take a like a close hanger, right?
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_03: Put a little matchstick box at the end, pretend like I see turntable, take a um a dustbin cover, no, like a pill cover, and think and pretend like I'm they play myself like on radio.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes my grandmother will call and say, Hey Jim, come on, help me do this.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_03: I'll say, just now, mother, take a break.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_03: That's all.
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_03: And I take a break and you swear and read it, right?
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm crazy, yeah.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_03: But like I was preparing myself for later on.
• 15:51
  Corie: Your parents encourage it, or they was they was they were spirits?
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_03: And my mother wanted me to be a pilot and a customs officer.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_03: There was a guy on TV used to read the news called Bobby Thomas in the panorama.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_03: And she said, you know, you want to be in this music thing.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_03: You like music, but you could be like Bobby Thomas.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_03: You see, he in the media and thing, but you do not any side, but they could still be a pilot and a customer.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_03: I think afterward, they just get fed up on it.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_03: Because I mean, even in school, it was everything was a music, music, music was a bill.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't even go to my school graduation and stuff because I wanted to play in my Trinity graduation, they didn't want me to play.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_03: So I went down and playing QRC.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_03: I went and played on X.
• 16:26
  Corie: Yeah, it's good.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_03: I said to hell with all here, but I want a DJ, boy.
• 16:30
  Corie: So going into Trinity, you're going with that same love for music and things.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_03: But you had to be doing good in school, Trinity, easy to get into.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean, it was alright.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, to me, school was a blow.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_03: Up to now, I don't know how many passes I got.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_03: Because I never had was to apply for a job in Trinidad.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_03: Seriously.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_03: Right after school is probably went into DJing and went into radio.
• 16:46
  Corie: So from school days, like I hear a lot of people who were DJs, yeah, come and say it starts with the bazaar and them thing, but you playing in home things.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_03: I even my first thing, but my my mom, thanks for me, she rests in peace as well.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_03: When I was uh about nine, ten years old, like I tell she got fed up on me.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_03: She went and bought her, she bought a nice little setup for me back then, them days in Hoggins, boy, yeah in Long Circular Mall, right?
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_03: I think she paid about$9,000 for that.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody was like proper money.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_03: You could spend nine thousand dollars on this boy.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she said, you like him music, man.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_03: I think she was going away too, so she wanted to make sure I was occupied.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_03: So I gave her first turn table, receiver, equalizer, and two speakers, right?
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_03: And then when we was embarrassed, then we moved to move.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_03: Now I had a neighbor across the road, she had a birthday party.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_03: Right, I think it was had it for a couple years, she had a birthday party.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_03: So I um say, Well, let me play for your birthday party now.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_03: I went and I played for that birthday party.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_03: But no, even though I had one turn table, it had a little um boombox kind of thing.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_03: I used to tape music off the radio, right?
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_03: Right, when they talking, I think.
• 17:44
  SPEAKER_03: Thank God they they didn't use a talk back then like talking now.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_03: Over.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_03: Because I would have these things.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_03: I had a press play and thing and canal kind of thing, right?
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_03: So I would mix my one-turn table, but we'll have one my castle.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_03: I mash up the party body birthday party.
• 17:56
  Corie: You doing that live in a party?
• 17:58
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, well, I have I have my pre-recorded cast several things, so I just play them.
• 18:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so you mix.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_03: I'll take him away.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_03: $15,$20.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_03: I can care my business.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_03: I walk in it.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_03: So you never down there, and then I next neighbor on the next street.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_03: Then I next my next one, and then in the area, so they get well known and stuff.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_03: So and then a little later on.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_03: Well, you know, it started to be known as the little boy could play music.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_03: What age you talking about?
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_03: That was um, that could have been about 11-12.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, seriously.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah,$11.12, and then well later on, 13-14, and then well, throughout Trinity, that was a study my work and thing, you know.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_03: You know, after later on, you know, it just it just progressed.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_03: I just keep getting records and stuff, and you know, hopefully one day I'll make my big break.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_03: I was hoping for that.
• 18:42
  Corie: Right.
• 18:42
  Corie: So you at that time your your focus is on a specific genre of music, or you're just playing what people want.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, just playing what people want.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_03: People was into the pop music because back in the house, you only had two radio stations, right?
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, and you that is all you were saying.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_03: Probably the blackest thing you would hear on the radio was Michael Jackson, and that's before you turn white.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_03: So you know, that's your T and Michael Jackson.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was Michael, yeah, the pop music and that kind of thing.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_03: A soaker, of course, you know, you'll calypso, you're a little soaker.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_03: And then after it changed when the maxi taxi thing came on and the other DJs came up with the dance.
• 19:13
  Corie: So gotcha.
• 19:13
  Corie: And them time you have a name yet?
• 19:15
  Corie: What where you're going as you have a DJ name?
• 19:16
  Corie: I do.
• 19:17
  Corie: I think when DJ name was DJ Please.
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_03: DJ Please, where DJ Please.
• 19:21
  Corie: So please, people there actually please to play on.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_03: DJ please.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_03: I can't believe it was DJ Please.
• 19:26
  Corie: Nice, nice.
• 19:27
  Corie: So that's all true Trinity and thing.
• 19:28
  Corie: I suppose you played any chance.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_03: I used to rap and thing too, rapping Trinity, you know.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_03: Music always rapping, pong in the desk, rapping.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_03: And a teacher named Miss Oogle, the English teacher.
• 19:41
  Corie: So school had music programs and things like Trinity.
• 19:43
  Corie: School, yeah.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_03: We had a I think we had a ban in school, you know.
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_03: I think I was in the band.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I remember even when primary school in Rosary, one day the principal just so asked me to come and sing a song.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, so in front of the class and I sang um, I think Boy George and Culture Club the War song, right?
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_03: And after that, we'll say, hey, this boy could sing by it.
• 20:00
  Corie: So you didn't know what problems going up on stage in the street.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_03: No, I didn't have I didn't have any fright on there.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, yeah, maybe I was signed up a little stiff, but I wasn't like scared of black.
• 20:07
  Corie: Yeah, so you live in a dream from small.
• 20:08
  Corie: You you do you do your life?
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_03: Like I said, I always knew what I wanted to do.
• 20:11
  SPEAKER_03: It had no turning.
• 20:12
  SPEAKER_03: But I remember I did have a after leaving school, I had a one nine to five job.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_03: Uh I was in a this company, an insurance company, and I left there by half day.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_03: I tell the supervisor I can't do this.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_03: And you say half day, did you?
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_03: The first day I went, 12 midday, I left.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_03: I say, I cannot do this.
• 20:28
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• 20:38
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• 20:45
  Corie: We need the money, like uh Max and House, you know.
• 20:50
  Corie: But you didn't know if there's some function, if you had hang around, you might have been able to play for some function.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_03: This is not for me.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_03: I can't want to be a DJ.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_03: He supervisor laugh at me.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_03: Then I had an uncle about my godfather.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_03: He was he won a hoyt furniture, so that was very popular in Barataria.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_03: He had a little sawmel and he would work and try to get my dad.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_03: Two days I last.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_03: Two days, I just get bored real quick.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_03: Two days.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_03: That lasts for two days.
• 21:18
  SPEAKER_03: I said, nah, I can't do this.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_03: I want to be a DJ.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_03: And I thought that was it.
• 21:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, nothing else.
• 21:23
  Corie: Alright, so go through your school days now.
• 21:24
  Corie: When that break comes, when you realize it's a career.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_03: Um, okay, school days, school days.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_03: When his school days, um, a little after left school, I was walking on the street one day, and this guy approached me that I wanted to start a DJ group in the area.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_03: There was a man by the name of that isn't mover, coconut drive, mover, point at a drive.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_03: I was gonna coconut drive, right?
• 21:43
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I've got coconut drive.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_03: And then, of course, in coconut drive in the street, that Papa Rocky living up the hill and thing, Dr.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_03: High living, and the next side to move.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_03: It was great.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_03: So he told me they wanted to start a DJ group.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_03: There was this gentleman by the name of Clive Mingo, he was a promoter, and he wanted to start a DJ group with his son and Um, I and another guy, that's where Third Bass was formed, right?
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_03: And there were other DJs in the mix there too.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_03: So we started it.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_03: Third bass was actually um well, a rap group.
• 22:09
  SPEAKER_03: There's a rap group called Third Bass.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_03: And then where we like, it was three of us, and we like system with a lot of bass.
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_03: So we say, hey, we call ourselves third bass.
• 22:16
  SPEAKER_03: And then we started to play around different areas and things, but uh after a while it kind of we broke up, but the name kind of stuck on me.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_03: There was a guy by the name of Lily Clyde the Outlaw, Clyde Jemot, he was in the group too.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_03: He used to buy a lot of records.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_03: I would buy a lot of records.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_03: So I tell Clyde instead of the thing, breaking up and mashing up, that we come together now.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_03: So Clyde and I became third base together, right?
• 22:36
  Corie: So in those early days when all they're playing as third bass, is Mike and talking and thing, or is it just DJing?
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_03: A little Mikey, not as much as now, but mostly mostly DJ.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_03: Mostly skills and yeah, mixing us up.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_03: You got the opportunity.
• 22:47
  SPEAKER_03: We used to play Scarlet I Bis Hotel.
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_03: They had a club there.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_03: You got the opportunity to play in in Wall Street and different different clubs and things.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_03: I got the opportunity to play in party time, right?
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_03: How I did get the opportunity to be on radio, I was the house DJ for a club called Club Platinum.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_03: That is in Westmall.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_03: It had well it had um upper level or Atlantis, Westmall.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_03: Then it had a platinum on the other side, which was Shamore before.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_03: I was the house DJ for Club Platinum.
• 23:12
  Corie: What age is talking about now?
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_03: Well, this is this would have been about 18, 19.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so you're young, young to be in them spaces still, yeah.
• 23:18
  SPEAKER_03: Well, 20 years, well at least 2020.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't used to drink, I don't drink, so you know it's cool, right?
• 23:26
  Corie: It's Statute of Limitation Pass it.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_03: Right, it's cool, right?
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm there.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_03: Um, DJ and all the big DJs used to pass to Johnny Q.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_03: Thing and then a till base kind of built a name, kind of because we used to play in all these schools, we were like on the ground.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna do them days and there's no social media thing or nothing, but the ground.
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna the ground, we're on the ground, playing in all them school bazaars, you know, that kind of thing.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_03: Um laundry came and I there was a time they we had they used to have oil wrestling.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if you know about the house and Matthew Gills.
• 23:53
  SPEAKER_03: Host and Matthew Gills, nobody's interested, right?
• 23:55
  Corie: Because you have a house and matching girls doing oil wrestling.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but no, yeah, yeah, oil wrestling, house and Matthew.
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_03: Host and Matthew.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_03: We need to bring this back immediately.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_03: How about that so stop this?
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_03: And Wednesday.
• 24:11
  SPEAKER_03: Oil wrestling and your boy oiling down the gills down the gills, and then the wrestling after the wrestling.
• 24:29
  Corie: So white people come this way.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this is a special night, oil wrestling night.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_03: So people come in just to see the oil wrestling and then music party after.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_03: They wrestle, then we party after.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_03: So oil wrestling, them girls oil wrestling.
• 24:42
  SPEAKER_03: So laundry came in at night.
• 24:44
  SPEAKER_03: I finally come to watch you oil wrestling.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_03: But you say this what you're doing with your voice, boy.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_03: You know?
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_03: But how you know your voice?
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_03: Well, you hear me like I say hearing man.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_03: Then there was a time we played in a same trinity together.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_03: You know, we would play a couple of times together.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_03: There's a time, I think I believe that time we play together.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_03: I play in this song, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, park away, and then church, you know what they're saying.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_03: So you tell me, hey, what do you tell me?
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_03: You say, you know, you really shouldn't be learning them children and then sing that kind of thing.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_03: I say, okay, no problem.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_03: Then after, you know, Masha me plays and he comes with he had a dub plate.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_03: How are you for?
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_03: How are you for?
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_03: How are you for?
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_03: And then when the kids sing and I talk in, I say, you know, you really shouldn't be learning the children, you know, kind of thing.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_03: So we developed a lot of people.
• 25:24
  SPEAKER_03: So they know each other from relationships.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_03: And then when he had the store, the record store too.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_03: And I guess he would be weird.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_03: When back in them days when you had to buy records, you know, you had to go specifically for what you want and buy and be careful.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_03: So there was a time like he saw interest in the music that I was buying.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_03: Because I would, like I said, I would buy records based on the city.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_03: So I just buy records because based on what I selected, you know.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_03: So we we we knew each other, you know, vaguely from that.
• 25:44
  Corie: But before you go forward, right?
• 25:46
  Corie: This book any comments.
• 25:47
  Corie: People might not know that Chinese laundry starts off DJ and Chinese laundry was a DJ, but a cook than a DJ.
• 25:53
  Corie: I don't know about that part.
• 25:54
  Corie: Yeah, cook and a DJ.
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_03: Cook and a DJ.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right?
• 25:57
  SPEAKER_03: DJ.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_03: So you oil and on the girls in night.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, all the back to the oil wrestling.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_03: Oiling on the girls.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_03: He comes and say, That were you doing with your voice, boy?
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_03: I said, What are you on me do?
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so I I think I hosting and things.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_03: He's tell me, well, we're starting up this radio station, um, 98.9, do a demo, right?
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_03: And I guess that was the first opportunity to be on urban radio.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_03: Now, before that, they had an experiment.
• 26:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I believe it was radio after dark.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_03: I remember walking in the laundry store itself, and I heard him, he tell Tony Guy, a guy called Ainsley, I think.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_03: He said, make a call there for me.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_03: Call um Dr.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_03: High, call Johnny Q, call Mario and um someone.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_03: Dr.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_03: High, Johnny Q, Mario for me, right?
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_03: And that I believe that was the start of the experiment for Urban Radio on 9-5.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_03: That was from 12 midnight till 5 o'clock in the morning.
• 26:43
  Corie: Oh, so they just play Urban music then to see.
• 26:45
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_03: Because I mean it was big on the streets and the maxes and things.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_03: And these DJs were very popular.
• 26:49
  SPEAKER_03: And like I say, back in the days, is you know, you're getting your pop music.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_03: So they started an experiment there.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_03: Monday night was Mario, Downtown Outlaws, Tuesday night was Dr.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_03: Hyde, Wednesday night was Johnny Q.
• 26:59
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know if he told you that when he was here.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_03: Thursday night was Tweez.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_03: That was the other one.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_03: And Friday night was Chinese laundry, signal to noise and code nine, right?
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_03: And on Friday is from 12 midnight till five in the morning.
• 27:10
  SPEAKER_03: That is where the graveyard shift used to be on radio.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_03: That's where you had to start.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_03: Not people just coming on radio now, three o'clock in the day and drive time.
• 27:16
  SPEAKER_03: You understand?
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, later you have to start at 12 midnight till five in the morning.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so that was an experiment that was very successful.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_03: So from that, you know, if we could do it these times, I guess we could do 24 hours.
• 27:28
  SPEAKER_03: 24 hours, right?
• 27:29
  SPEAKER_03: So you tell me we're starting up this urban radio station.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_03: I think do a demo.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_03: So I think I went home to my demo.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_03: I put plenty of echo on the voice and thing, huh?
• 27:35
  SPEAKER_03: And I came from and said, Well, this thing had too much echo by you.
• 27:38
  SPEAKER_03: Just talk now, just talk now.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_03: So I talk and talk.
• 27:39
  Corie: So the demo is DJing and talking, like no demo was just talking.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_03: I was just talking.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, like an once up, yeah, like I know, yeah, talking, right?
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_03: So I spoke and thing, and he said, All right, um, maybe you could do this.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_03: So he came in now to introduce me to Louie Lee Singh, who was the general manager of the station at the time.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_03: Now, at this time, I had dreads and things.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_03: I will dreads and things.
• 27:58
  SPEAKER_03: Believe it or not, right?
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_03: I had dreads.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_03: So when Louis Lee Singh says me, now he introduced Louie, this bella boy to the base where you want to bring him on board and thing.
• 28:06
  SPEAKER_03: Louis Lee Sing is to watch me and say, But you sure this boy could do this work with his hair boy?
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 28:11
  SPEAKER_03: Now we remember back in them days, yeah.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_03: Looking like you and I, fine here got clean shaved.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_03: I wanted to jump out myself, huh?
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_03: To tell him, well, we like what it is you think this hair has with the ability.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_03: Because I like I tell you, I've been training for this all my life.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_03: I was ready.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_03: But I didn't, I just stick it in.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_03: And you say, Nah, man, the boy could do the work, right?
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_03: So I started to do the radio and thing.
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_03: I think I started to do the same.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_03: You had to do 12 midnight till five in the morning.
• 28:35
  Corie: And this time you buy yourself as to base, not the same.
• 28:37
  Corie: Yes, by the way.
• 28:37
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_03: But well, actually, Friday I did a show with O'Brien Haynes and Franco.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_03: We used to call ourselves T3.
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 28:44
  SPEAKER_03: The one night we had that, and then by myself, and Clyde used to come with me and somebody was basically by myself.
• 28:49
  SPEAKER_03: And with after three months of doing that, I used to be filling in for people during the day.
• 28:53
  Corie: You're doing it 12 to 5, and if I shift, if I shift.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_03: If I shift, boy, if I shift open eye day, boy, they used to take advantage of me, but I didn't care.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_03: Nine to 12 are walking, 12 to 3 are working, 4 to 7 are working.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_03: You come with a walk, two shifts are there walking.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_03: And I was I was filling in for people like Ian D.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_03: Goose Elego, people I grew up listening to.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_03: That kind of thing.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_03: So that was like an honor for me.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_03: But I was practicing, I was getting practice, I didn't mind.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_03: Okay.
• 29:16
  SPEAKER_03: So you're enjoying it.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_03: I enjoyed it.
• 29:18
  SPEAKER_03: I love I love until radio, I reach radio, and that was it for me, 98.9.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_03: Then after 98.9, well, they left and went to 96.1.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't go to 96.1 right away, but then I stayed at 98.9 for a little bit.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_03: Then I went to 96.
• 29:31
  Corie: Well, before we make that section 96, right?
• 29:33
  Corie: A couple questions for me about urban radio.
• 29:35
  Corie: Because y'all are the men who are the heart of like even when I talk to younger people now, they don't understand, and maybe even myself that first radio really wasn't playing a lot of when you say black music, yeah, yeah, or even so called dance.
• 29:49
  Corie: It was a little bit more than a little bit.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, a little bit.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_03: You're playing a little soaker.
• 29:53
  Corie: Carnival time, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:54
  Corie: And then the the revolution that was urban radio is something that somebody who was born in this era, they just don't understand what to them is just the way they're born when you're born into it, they don't know.
• 30:04
  Corie: Yeah, the world starts when you're born.
• 30:05
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 30:05
  Corie: So two things I want to ask you about.
• 30:07
  Corie: Yeah, you talk about the maxi days.
• 30:09
  Corie: Because they is for so for you, urban radio really pick up on the ground through the maxi.
• 30:13
  Corie: Of course, of course.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was that was the it pick up on the ground.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_03: They couldn't they couldn't stop it because every time you have a maxi pass, you went to yeah, and that that dub and that thing.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_03: That was it.
• 30:26
  Corie: And it was what the record shops had started bringing in more Jamaican music and them thing.
• 30:30
  Corie: Because where where the maxi getting music to play is hide on them mixes, hide on them.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I mean the DJs, DJs like like Mario Russell, they got Mario Russell downtown who was like the first gentleman who gave me the first opportunity to really touch some 1200 turntables.
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_03: They would bring in music.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_03: I there was people from guys from radio, but after the Renny B era, we started to go into the Stanley Augustus, Adrian Dunmora, Chris Boeings, and they would um they would go to these guys, the DJs, Mario and certain DJs to borrow music that they were here in the street because they didn't know where the LLM music came from.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_03: Gotcha.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_03: You know, gotcha.
• 31:01
  Corie: Yeah, so it's people just following them, following the records, and then I guess the mixes, downtown outlaws.
• 31:06
  Corie: Who's the main people doing mixes?
• 31:07
  Corie: Then it was downtown outlaws at the time.
• 31:09
  SPEAKER_03: Back in with mixes, we had downtown outlaws.
• 31:11
  SPEAKER_03: Well, any it came up downtown outlaws, Teddy Mohammed, brand wages.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_03: Then it went into the Doctide, Howie Tea, well, Chinese laundry.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_03: We had the um who we had ETC, yeah.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_03: ETC, ETC in the East, don't south full priority.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_03: So every you know district had their own.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 31:27
  Corie: Right.
• 31:27
  Corie: Well, a few people came here and talked about them early days and in radio.
• 31:30
  Corie: Uh uh Patrick's a little Mr.
• 31:32
  Corie: Vibe, who wanted to get back here.
• 31:34
  Corie: Oh, yeah, yeah.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_03: He did the he did the um the what you say, the theme song for it's the hitline 98.9.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_03: It's the hitline.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_03: And my song actually had a song called Wine A Wrong, which was like a playoff for House of Pain, jump around.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_03: It was Wine A wrong, whine up, wine up, and wine down.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_03: That was the full song to play on 98.9.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_03: Full song, yeah.
• 31:53
  SPEAKER_03: Not by you, no, not by me, no longer did the full song.
• 31:56
  Corie: So it was on the ground, that's what I think.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_03: It was yeah, it was exactly on the ground, yeah.
• 31:58
  SPEAKER_03: I understand.
• 31:59
  Corie: They had a lot of restrictions when you all started to play there, you just buy your records up.
• 32:03
  Corie: So you all buying your own records because now like radio stations now is a certain amount of programming, right?
• 32:07
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:08
  Corie: Back then, only again to buy your records and come and bust.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, buying records, yeah.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_03: Bust song on the radio.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_03: Back in the MDs, you have an ear from music and waiting to hear nothing on the radio code or nothing.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_03: Now, like now, when MDJ's waiting to hear something on the radio, and it had to go viral, and this and that all kind of thing.
• 32:21
  SPEAKER_03: But now we bust and tune, busting, I mean the songs are you you know, made in his country.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_03: It's amazing, and we bust in tunes Friday, Saturday.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes you would give records and play it in a dance first time, yeah.
• 32:32
  Corie: You know, I like that discussion about the DJ then versus no.
• 32:36
  Corie: So I can tell you, I see all by Gus coming in when records come in.
• 32:40
  Corie: Gus used to bring records on a Thursday or something.
• 32:42
  Corie: So men you'll see all it coming through, right?
• 32:43
  Corie: Then I just lifting up crazy.
• 32:45
  Corie: I do know ever Gus, I just won't be around.
• 32:46
  Corie: Okay, okay, yeah.
• 32:47
  Corie: And um, it was really interesting for me to see how much Gus would buy to bring in.
• 32:52
  Corie: So, for instance, I read them might have 15, 16 songs in Jamaica, 45, right?
• 32:56
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 32:57
  Corie: And only come in now and decide because you're not buying all 15, right?
• 33:01
  Corie: So you decide, okay, which ones you're buying and them kind of thing.
• 33:04
  Corie: I wonder if that that that skill that's only developed for hearing music is one of the things that are missing today because the DJ today has so much, they can't listen to all the music that you hear.
• 33:13
  Corie: So much.
• 33:14
  Corie: Plus, they don't have the limited budget or space.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_03: Because you have a budget for them, buying nothing they don't download the music, the music free, you know they buy nothing now.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_03: What budget?
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's what I mean.
• 33:23
  SPEAKER_03: The only budget is a laptop.
• 33:24
  Corie: Yeah, exactly, exactly.
• 33:25
  Corie: Once you buy a laptop, you're automatically a DJ, and you don't have to go through now because you had to pass through somebody vetting, whether it's Louis Lising, Chinese or whoever it might be, had a program director, yeah.
• 33:36
  Corie: That's right, but now it's different because you can go out to people directly.
• 33:40
  Corie: And I wonder if that's what might be lacking now.
• 33:42
  Corie: Because you had to hear them 15 things, decide not just what will be a hit, yeah, but you also have several competitors.
• 33:48
  Corie: We might call them partners in the DJ world, but no DJs wasn't playing the same set of things.
• 33:53
  Corie: Exactly.
• 33:53
  SPEAKER_03: Everybody was different, but that was a that was a key to being a DJ.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_03: You don't want to sound like another DJ.
• 33:58
  SPEAKER_03: Nowadays, you're going to have boat, right?
• 34:00
  SPEAKER_03: This DJ play 10 songs the next day.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_03: I jump off a boat, wanted to jump off boat, right?
• 34:03
  SPEAKER_03: This DJ playing 10 songs, the next DJ play the same time.
• 34:06
  SPEAKER_03: It's like what the what is this?
• 34:08
  Corie: Yeah, you know.
• 34:09
  Corie: One of the last DJ fetter I went.
• 34:10
  Corie: I'm not going to go back.
• 34:12
  Corie: Yeah, because it it kind of is is is unique now.
• 34:15
  Corie: I mean, uh, youth's enjoying themselves.
• 34:16
  Corie: So mean what's going on.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_03: But now now the the the music has taken a back step.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_03: The mic man is now the starner.
• 34:22
  Corie: I suppose, I suppose it's not about his skill and himself.
• 34:25
  Corie: All right, so them days, and and just before I move on to 96, you could talk about the response of the youths when that music moved from the maxi and when we know and dance and thing to being on the radio.
• 34:36
  Corie: What was the response all those getting then?
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_03: That was a great response, but I mean youths would see you.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes, like I say, back in those days that had no social media, but just you're you're going out there and you're hearing the radio, you know, you had hearing music on the radio, you could hear yourself on the radio.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_03: I remember people in Mova were very proud of me as a young person because remember I was on the radio with people like Paul Richards and Andy Goose Elegro and Glenn Anton and professionals, you know.
• 35:02
  SPEAKER_03: I was like the youth, youth, youth, youth and radio.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_03: You know, so I mean people were very, very proud of it.
• 35:07
  Corie: Yeah, and I think I think it was for me this first time we get to hear ourselves and I kind of sets the accent sung in a little bit more like me.
• 35:14
  Corie: Even the announcers on 98.9.
• 35:16
  Corie: What are the first other than just the music?
• 35:19
  Corie: Is the first time for me I hear men on the radio talking, like always talking about it?
• 35:23
  Corie: A little bit at least.
• 35:24
  Corie: You know, I mean, I mean, the men was still professional, very y'all, smooth and thing, but still it's sung in a little more trap.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_03: But you had a little problem that because later on, I mean, I used to I used to be proud to say I was from Mover.
• 35:34
  SPEAKER_03: There was a time they called me in a meeting and say, you know, you do have to say you're from mover so much.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_03: All I think you don't have to let people know you're from mover.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_03: Really?
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_03: I like what you're saying.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_03: Because I was very proud of where I come from, I think, you know, and I under Urban, you know, but the urban wasn't urban because remember back in those days too.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_03: You wasn't taking an artist or somebody you live in sea lots and putting them as he face of your brand.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, no.
• 35:53
  SPEAKER_03: Especially with a dread looking like me, you know.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_03: I suppose I see that.
• 35:56
  SPEAKER_03: You know, so it was it was different.
• 35:57
  Corie: Yeah, but it was one of the first steps to break some of them barriers.
• 36:00
  Corie: Some of the things that happen now with music start there.
• 36:02
  Corie: Yeah, that's true.
• 36:04
  Corie: It wasn't born there, yeah.
• 36:05
  Corie: But it's a big shift.
• 36:06
  Corie: Yeah, so what happened eventually when you start you move on to 96?
• 36:10
  Corie: Is something you apply or you change or whatever?
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_03: I never had used to apply for a convention.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
• 36:16
  Corie: I try to figure out where you apply for in life.
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_03: So that move come.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, um well, I I was when um when they moved from 98 to 96, um, they did call me to come and join 96 right away, but I don't think they were giving me as much shifts because when people leave, they'd have ships available.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_03: So I was like doing six, seven shifts there.
• 36:33
  SPEAKER_03: You calling me to work four, I think really making money going down.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you know, and then when somebody, I think Justice was there, they wanted me to share shift with justice.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_03: My time on um 96 on ones was seven to nine, just two hours, seven to nine.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_03: That's when dance all good to be came about and we were talking about that.
• 36:49
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, so there was offered when Justice left, they were able to offer me more shifts, so that's when I I went there.
• 36:55
  SPEAKER_03: I understand.
• 36:56
  Corie: And you went originally doing the 79 shift, that's where you started off at 96?
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, 77 was 79.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_03: 79, I think uh Monday, Monday to Monday, Tuesday when Monday to Thursday, and I think Saturday was Saturday was the dance all good to be show seven to nine.
• 37:12
  Corie: So you were the originator of dance all the time dance all good to be, yes.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_03: I actually wanted to do a hip-hop show.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_03: I went to them with this whole thing, but I went love my hip-hop.
• 37:19
  SPEAKER_03: I want to do a hip-hop show and thing, boy.
• 37:21
  SPEAKER_03: I then try to watch me blink three times.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_03: You say that's good enough, that's sound real good, you know.
• 37:26
  SPEAKER_03: Well, we do reggae dance all, dance all, you know, and it shows the evolution of dance.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_03: So I think it gave me a gave me a box set, right?
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_03: Called the I think the evolution of reggae music, which is showed from ska to rock steady to reggae to dance all.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, right?
• 37:41
  SPEAKER_03: So that is how the pattern of the show followed.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_03: That was the first time, the first show where a lot of conscious music had the cable tonight all them sizzle and things started to play on radio.
• 37:49
  Corie: Yeah, but they make them think, you know, all the greater movements, you know.
• 37:53
  Corie: So at that point in time, you get into kind of structure your own show and then you're playing and talking, or you have a yeah, I was playing no DJ thing came later on.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_03: I was playing for myself, but back in them days.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_03: You're playing your talk for yourself, yeah.
• 38:04
  Corie: I see all the announcers was doing it.
• 38:07
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 38:08
  Corie: He's saying that like enough, yes.
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_03: That is normal thing.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_03: You could have mixed sometimes.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_03: You could do tune into tune, but you're you know, you're playing and talking for yourself.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was a skill.
• 38:16
  Corie: Yeah, and you had a career shift.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the career shift, yeah.
• 38:18
  Corie: And was it like outside of the station or you're doing gigs?
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_03: Doing gigs, doing DJing and stuff and DJing and thing.
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_03: And then the the music, the artist thing came on afterwards.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_03: I was up in '96.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_03: My full song.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I tell you how the song Wine Around.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_03: That was like in '93 when that played and thing.
• 38:34
  SPEAKER_03: And then he used to have concerts in the stadium.
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_03: I performed their concerts in the stadium.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_03: With Wine Around?
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we wine around.
• 38:38
  Corie: Let me go back to that for a minute.
• 38:39
  Corie: How you went to recording Wine Around and stuff?
• 38:41
  Corie: You didn't tell me like how that originated, like how you become an artist?
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_03: I think that was um being with Mario Russell and thing and the downtown outlaws, you know, being part of the downtown outlaws a little bit too.
• 38:50
  SPEAKER_03: He wanted to do a record, and he always seemed like, you know, rapping, singing, that kind of thing.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_03: And I had this song.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_03: I said, I really want to do this song, you know.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_03: I think we went by Ian the Goose Elego.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_03: He, when he was living in Trinidad in Pity Valley to record it.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_03: And it was on our Orange label, Downtown Outlaws label.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_03: And we did the record, he did the beat and thing, and you know, it came out pretty cool.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_03: So we just have something we just wanted to put out, and it was like huge on the ground.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_03: Like on the ground.
• 39:13
  Corie: So by 96, you know you could record, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_03: Like I said, always wanted to be an artist, but I was like real rapping and thing.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_03: I used to get carried away with that rap.
• 39:24
  SPEAKER_03: You know, right?
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_03: So my first song was Juvem Morning, blow your whistle, Juv Morning, right?
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_03: Juvent morning, that was in 1996.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_03: Big up to Johnny Soon.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_03: Johnny Song helped me out with that.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_03: We went on President Barbados, bringing back and thing, and then after 1996.
• 39:39
  Corie: We produced that and thing.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_03: Juve morning, but that was hmm.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_03: Juvent morning was myself, was signal to noise.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_03: Guy called Lyndon Livingston, then Stones.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_03: Stones, right?
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_03: We produced that and thing.
• 39:51
  Corie: Yeah.
• 39:51
  Corie: Right?
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_03: Drink.
• 39:52
  Corie: What's the reaction like now?
• 39:53
  Corie: Because that song, for people who can't remember, that was the.
• 39:56
  SPEAKER_03: Well, in Trinidad, they've already played it.
• 39:57
  SPEAKER_03: If it played in Trinidad, they played.
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_03: But they wasn't playing that here.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, back then.
• 40:01
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, yeah, of course.
• 40:02
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_03: Back then, yeah.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_03: Back then, yeah.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_03: That was a like a cult classic.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_03: That was like the first Juve song.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_03: I even did a remix with Blakey, Lord Blakey.
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_03: Because he had a song called Juvem Morning.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_03: I think that was the first time any new school and old school artists kind of came together to go.
• 40:15
  SPEAKER_03: You don't know this remix at all.
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_03: Blakey, yeah.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_03: Blakey have a song called Juvem Morning.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_03: It was last year Juv Morning, a bounce up this Yankee thing.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_03: Last year Juvem morning, a bunk of bounce up this Yankee thing.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_03: It was a real bad remix.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_03: No, absolutely that.
• 40:27
  Corie: I mean, yeah, people uh go and Google Blakey, you know what I mean?
• 40:30
  Corie: Lord Blakey.
• 40:31
  Corie: You had a laugh boy.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 40:34
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, so even back then, you have that because you have a unique thing with connecting the the because even when it's about flaws and powers or the things you're talking about with the young guy now, you have a unique way of connecting the young, young people with the with the people who the legends and things like that.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I mean, since back something I was because uh if it's one to say I have an old soul, yes, I have an old soul, but I like my new thing too.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_03: I like some of them new dancers and things now too, you know.
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm in love with that, but I really like women, I'm in love with thick women, but I really never say tick thick now.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: At least you know what they say.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_03: But once it's a good melody, that is one thing you carry on away.
• 41:11
  SPEAKER_03: I'm sure growing up and thinking your parents, even though but what junkabad music is that you're playing there, but once something with a good melody, like my grandmother, my grandmother love red rat.
• 41:19
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_03: Oh no, my grandmother's a love red rat, but you know, so I from then growing up, I never really pushed out the old and I always embrace the new.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, you have to, I guess that's why I'm still here.
• 41:31
  Corie: Yeah, it's funny you say Pelum, I saw Pelom on your show as well.
• 41:33
  Corie: But when he was here, he was talking about that.
• 41:35
  Corie: And I see an example this weekend, coincidentally.
• 41:37
  Corie: I was just in Subway like random, and the they were playing for some reason the raw version of Rampage was playing in Subway.
• 41:45
  Corie: And I see two old people like they come from church by the same.
• 41:48
  Corie: But then that woman is grooving.
• 41:50
  Corie: And I want to say moms, moms, yeah.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_03: But the melody, the melodies were the melody, the melody was good melodies, good melody.
• 41:58
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 41:58
  Corie: So at that point in time, uh you you have, and maybe I don't know if I have this right or wrong, but you might be the first person I remember as a DJ taking that step out to sing like that.
• 42:08
  Corie: Was it you first, especially in 96?
• 42:09
  Corie: Because I had plenty in 96.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, afterwards it had, but I was the first because I had Juv Morning before, then after the laundry came with the short pants and anything.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_03: So short pants and all them things come after.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_03: After a little but a little after.
• 42:20
  SPEAKER_03: It was put on the same album, but the juve morning was before.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_03: And the thing is, but we were both encouraged to do it because in those days the youth wasn't really into the soccer.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, Marshall was doing his thing with the Panasonic Express and Melanie Hudson and them and thing, and that was it, but them youth wasn't in the soccer, especially after we.
• 42:35
  SPEAKER_03: But I used to well, they would say the the the dub era, and then they used to tell me that dance all good three ruin everything, but you know, say that that because that show was was big, that was one of the high most highest-rated shows in Trinidad history till today.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_03: Ever, ever.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_03: Ever.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_03: So taking blame for that now, we say we had to do something about this.
• 42:53
  Corie: Oh, so you accept that you hear that complaint from the city.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I wasn't taking it on, but you know, you would hear that then all they come with this dub thing and all that.
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 43:00
  SPEAKER_03: But it's no before.
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, if after Lent you want to stop playing soccer, you know, thing.
• 43:04
  SPEAKER_03: But so it took another social responsibility to do something.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_03: I see.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_03: Then when the youth saw people like us doing it, then they wanted to do it.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_03: I remember KMC.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_03: KMC used to be doing dance hall, right?
• 43:15
  SPEAKER_03: Records, bringing dance all records and in Gwyn Jamaica, person it brings it.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_03: We used to tell them, but you're not something authentic.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_03: You know, we had why would we play this one yet?
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_03: Abini man and bumpty killer and thing to play.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_03: Try some soccer.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_03: But we mean what to do no soccer, boy.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_03: You know, like KMC.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_03: Big up KMC, boy.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_03: You know, then that and a year after that, bash men to carnival.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_03: One G, of course, was doing his thing in Arima thing.
• 43:36
  SPEAKER_03: Um, Destro, well, I was introduced to Destro by Ken Old, I wrote Destro's full song.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_03: And the guys on the pigtail rhythm read them called the pigtail rhythm.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I told you that's a good thing.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_03: And I had a man already on the pigtail rhythm.
• 43:47
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• 43:57
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• 44:00
  Corie: To ensure that we could continue to get stories that inspire, educate, empower, inform, and all the other in things that these people behind the scenes tell me to say.
• 44:09
  Corie: So go and do it now, and then we could jump back into the episode.
• 44:13
  Corie: Bang.
• 44:14
  Corie: So going back to Juvemon, you're getting that and you get the response.
• 44:18
  Corie: Y'all used to get the complaints back then because if laundry comes short, pants and things back then.
• 44:22
  Corie: I see I see Shal and them era with Hoppy and them get.
• 44:26
  Corie: I see ding dong in it sometimes.
• 44:27
  Corie: Y'all used to get that same thing where they're saying DJs shouldn't sing like artists had a problem with it.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_03: Well yeah, of course, of course.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, what them DJs singing for you?
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you used to get it.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_03: People used to see it as a conflict of interest.
• 44:38
  SPEAKER_03: But I will tell you about me, right?
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_03: I was always very mindful that this singing thing, being an artist, is these um is their people's life field.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_03: They saw their feed and all their family.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_03: So I was always fair.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_03: I wasn't on this thing where it had be peace when I make my feel high.
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_03: That artists have used to tell me, Boy, if I was you, I played my song 15 times.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_03: I mean the top.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_03: I said, Oh, I can do that, I can't do that.
• 45:02
  SPEAKER_03: That is unfair, I can't do that, you know.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_03: So I was always very mindful and always been very fair.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_03: Fair to people.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'll play my thing, but too.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, I play other people thing too.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_03: And I broke a lot.
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_03: I remember it had a lot of records that people didn't want to play.
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_03: Like the river.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_03: People didn't want up, they didn't want up, they didn't like that.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_03: They didn't want to play that thing.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_03: They did not like that.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_03: They said I was shot.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_03: Seriously.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_03: I'm telling you, the river.
• 45:22
  Corie: But they just don't like the song or something.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_03: Just don't like river, meaning what paddling, paddle, meaning if it means some kind of mean nothing.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_00: She said well, yeah.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_03: Padlin, paddle didn't want to play that.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_03: Boys when your boy bass take that and play that uh Friday there.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_03: So and that was it, and many records, you know, broke because of that.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_03: Because you know, you give her give something a chance.
• 45:40
  Corie: Yeah, I think that some people who was there will remember, but there was a point in time where for instance, Chinese laundry, third base, signal to noise.
• 45:47
  Corie: And I remember one Juvent morning when all they do, all the trucks black and red.
• 45:50
  Corie: This is this is the year too.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_03: When they had the on the trucks and what they used to have the well, before Juvem March was Monday Night Mars, they're talking about when they used to do Monday thing and they used to do it wrong the um by Boy Scouts and the country.
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_03: A couple times I've been there with them, you know.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_03: But yeah, that was that was good times.
• 46:06
  Corie: Yeah, for sure.
• 46:06
  Corie: Because the thing is always the authority when all they say something good, it's good, and when all you play it, it people run in the world.
• 46:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, well, the power of repetition, too.
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, even if something ain't good.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes you hear that song, but that song is real shit.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_03: But every time you hear that over and over and over and over and over and over, and over and over and over and over, next thing, oh god!
• 46:25
  Corie: Wait, I love it, boy.
• 46:27
  Corie: Yeah, well, you must see that many, many times over the years.
• 46:31
  Corie: So Juvent Morning Make Me Feel High came.
• 46:33
  SPEAKER_03: Make me feel high came after 96 was Juvent Morning, 97 Make Me Feel High, 98.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_03: Look how one of my albums here, first records.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_03: You see the song called here, all of that in it, right?
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_03: That is the first time that when he was Magadan back in the days, MX Prime.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_03: That's the first time I put him on a record for the first first time.
• 46:48
  Corie: Oh, so you do an album with people high on the same time.
• 46:51
  Corie: Yeah, high on the same album.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_03: Hi, Juvent Morning.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, look, did we mix with Blake Kidman?
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_03: So I'll give you this, right?
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_03: Make me a flow, give me this.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_03: You can keep that, you can keep what you are keeping that.
• 47:02
  Corie: I keep that.
• 47:02
  Corie: I appreciate that.
• 47:03
  Corie: I appreciate that.
• 47:04
  Corie: That I want to hear.
• 47:04
  Corie: Yeah, I don't think I ever hear that.
• 47:06
  Corie: So make me feel high, and people I want people to Google these songs, right?
• 47:09
  Corie: Because Juve Morning make me feel high.
• 47:11
  Corie: You talking about 96 and 97.
• 47:13
  Corie: Yeah.
• 47:13
  Corie: If people had to isolate two years, we had the greatest set of soak entering that history, would change the thing.
• 47:19
  Corie: 96 and 97.
• 47:20
  SPEAKER_03: But 997.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_03: I remember Iowa told me when he heard make me feel high, he had also go back in his studio because of the sound of it.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_03: Right, that was Shell Shock.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_03: Wake up to the late channel.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, so Shell Shock did that.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_03: We did that in Caribbean song basin.
• 47:33
  Corie: Ah, okay, okay, okay.
• 47:34
  Corie: So by that time, in uh Kiskili Caravan tour and Marshall actually, when he was here, was talking about that 9697 where he talking about your partner Kenny Phillips, too.
• 47:43
  Corie: Salute to Kenny.
• 47:43
  Corie: But you say, you know, you sung in all, he sung in like the 80s and the 90s and things.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_03: The things started to change, it started to change.
• 47:48
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_03: So Men Men had also go back in his studio after that song came out.
• 47:52
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_03: And that's what we see me with bit was High, Big Chuck, and End.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_03: Those were the top three songs.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_03: Oh wow.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_03: Hi, Big Chuck, End.
• 48:00
  Corie: Yeah, End was the same as yeah, that changed the song also.
• 48:03
  Corie: Yeah.
• 48:04
  Corie: So when you when you're going out there with them songs, because by that time you're performing, and performing, yeah, man.
• 48:08
  Corie: Yeah.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_03: Performing, I mean, wasn't the best.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_03: You had to learn how to sing with that ban and thing because that was something different.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_03: And then I know wait at this Ableton thing and the background.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_03: You had to sing live and open.
• 48:19
  SPEAKER_03: And sometimes the band goes in so your voice going so you had to learn, you had to learn, you never pick it up.
• 48:23
  Corie: Yeah, no back in track.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no back in track, no back in track, you know, back in track.
• 48:26
  Corie: Yeah, and then there's this is just traffic ecstatic, Atlantic is the number time and then and brass festival.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_03: Remember brass festival?
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_03: I sing and when I see a man stabbing up a man, boy.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_03: Like if in time to my tuning room.
• 48:48
  Corie: Yeah, I was just passing on by uh movie tongue the other day and watching that such a car park with spectrum.
• 48:52
  Corie: Spectrum Musley, boy, yeah, boy.
• 48:54
  Corie: Spectrum of them things was chaotic.
• 48:55
  Corie: But them songs, I feel like if because you talk more that time where we're looking up to all, I might be 16, 17, them times, we now starting to come out.
• 49:02
  Corie: And even that bashment to carnival and think we're not be long after that.
• 49:05
  Corie: That's next year, 1935.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_03: KMC KMC, what 90 years, 98 Bashmen to Carnival, yeah.
• 49:09
  Corie: So at that point in time, you have yourself as going to release music every year or go down Modi Artist Road, or where you do um, but I still love the starting.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_03: I love to DJ, but when you started singing, just forget it as good DJ.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_03: When you started, did they forget it as a single?
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_03: So I said I sing anybody, all they forget the good DJ.
• 49:24
  SPEAKER_03: I love to play my music by still.
• 49:26
  SPEAKER_03: It's still a lot of music, I love to DJ.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 49:29
  SPEAKER_03: You know, so I started to sing and sing and I started to write to a right because I um like I said, Destro's full son, I picked it rhythm house, introduced her, picked it with him, came out um after 19 hours.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_03: I went away.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_03: Stuff came back and wrote some more songs and stuff.
• 49:43
  Corie: So let me go to that destroyer.
• 49:44
  Corie: How do the connections start to do it?
• 49:46
  SPEAKER_03: Ken Holder introduced me to Destro.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_03: She was going to school still, very shy, going St.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_03: James Sec.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_03: Right, she also St.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_03: James Sec.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_03: And um, yeah, introduced her.
• 49:54
  SPEAKER_03: You say bad bass at this girl and she could sing, she was singing RB and Gospel.
• 49:58
  SPEAKER_03: All you can imagine that destruction queen back and I'll used to sing RB and Gospel.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_03: She's going back to that now.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_03: She's going back to that now.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_03: See, life is that cycle, right?
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 50:08
  SPEAKER_03: So they're sure singing RB and Gospel.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_03: Um say, well, I want that song for this girl and things.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_03: So I can't remember when it actually came about.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_03: I said, Well let me do a song with a female, and I kind of wrote it like a free.
• 50:18
  SPEAKER_03: I'll track and kind of forget your back and forth, kind of thing.
• 50:21
  Corie: Yeah, and the thing is, I suppose Destro then you were established on DJ, your brand out there.
• 50:25
  Corie: Right, right, yeah.
• 50:26
  Corie: And now by this time, you took you two big songs bubbling.
• 50:28
  Corie: Well, like the third one really bubbling.
• 50:30
  Corie: Yeah, and um at that point in time it's just the collaboration.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, the collaboration was.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_03: I remember you performing a thing called We Can.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_03: I think that was in the stadium we can boy.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_03: You went in all the chaotic thing.
• 50:41
  SPEAKER_03: We can was chaotic, too.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, boy, we can on stage on stage with the short.
• 50:46
  SPEAKER_03: But girl whiner, girl.
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_03: Imagine I had to tell the shutter wine.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_03: Gil one wine.
• 50:52
  Corie: Good, good gospel singer.
• 50:53
  Corie: You tell them more wine, yeah.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_03: Shake now.
• 50:57
  Corie: You stand up stiff so even then, and that was some of the, if I remember right, some of the earliest rhythms, really.
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_03: That was the first rhythm.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_03: That was the first ever rhythm in soca.
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_03: Pigtail.
• 51:07
  Corie: Pigtail rhythm, yeah.
• 51:08
  Corie: What people responses to it then?
• 51:10
  Corie: We call it playing.
• 51:11
  Corie: I think the criticism then on 96.1 in particular was that all it was dance all and what you think.
• 51:15
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 51:15
  Corie: And even the sound, and that is what maybe why we love it.
• 51:18
  Corie: The sound of the soaker changed to be.
• 51:22
  Corie: I don't know if it's more trending to dance all, but I know it's what we wanted to hear as teenagers.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_03: Well, exactly, and that's what you were aiming for, the youths.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_03: You know, the youths trending to the youths of me because sometimes you had to join them before you could beat them.
• 51:32
  SPEAKER_03: If you want to bring me into this thing, you had to get them out of what you want, divert so on, come back soon, you know.
• 51:37
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 51:38
  Corie: Because I guess just before then, it's not that I love super blue and preacher on them.
• 51:42
  Corie: But if so, had stayed out up.
• 51:44
  Corie: I don't know if yeah, yeah, I don't know if it would have so so you love any response again.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_03: So it's the sponsor was good from the um from the music so fanna.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 51:52
  Corie: Yeah, and you stick with that.
• 51:53
  Corie: Yeah, uh, what other writing you you was doing at that point?
• 51:56
  Corie: Because if you're with Ken Holder, you write him several songs and rhythms or whatever.
• 51:58
  SPEAKER_03: Oh no, no, that was the blow that song was the first song that I wrote, and after that, um And the ones you do before you were writing yourself too?
• 52:05
  Corie: Yeah, I wrote all my s I write all my songs.
• 52:06
  Corie: So write for somebody, yeah.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_03: Right to after that, I left Trinidad in 1999.
• 52:11
  Corie: Let me talk about an I remember listening to 96.1.
• 52:14
  Corie: That was a sad day in my life.
• 52:16
  Corie: Because I guess we're young.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 52:17
  Corie: So you think that everything that you're listening to is forever.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_03: Right, right.
• 52:21
  Corie: And we we get this chance to have urban radio and stuff.
• 52:23
  Corie: Yeah, and I remember one night where it feels like if you listen to the radio, because them days radio have no camera any studio and thing, right?
• 52:30
  Corie: All you gotta make your own image in your mind.
• 52:32
  Corie: Yeah, but I remember in particular, it feels like the studio was full when you was announcing that you're leaving, like your last year for 96.1, you was going to New York or something like that.
• 52:40
  Corie: I remember just randomly, right?
• 52:42
  Corie: But I remember telling you telling Umber, stick with it, you know.
• 52:45
  Corie: I mean, stick with the dance all on the reggae and them kind of thing.
• 52:48
  Corie: What was like for you then?
• 52:49
  Corie: Was it like that?
• 52:50
  Corie: Because that's what we're listening to on the radio, you know.
• 52:51
  Corie: It's something like a sad time where you exited.
• 52:54
  SPEAKER_03: It wasn't sad for me.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I just guys get bored easy.
• 52:58
  SPEAKER_03: I was I was just bored.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_03: I was bored being, you know, like if you see one of the top DJs in Trinidad, I get too big tune and thing.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_03: I just I just wanted more, a little more.
• 53:07
  SPEAKER_03: And my mom was living outside it too.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_03: You know, so you know it wasn't like I was gonna say by some family would have threw me out.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_03: So I say, look, I want more.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_03: I I I ready to go, but let me just go.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_03: Let me just go and see what's out there.
• 53:18
  Corie: Oh, so you left without you didn't have a job, you didn't know.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_03: No, no, I didn't know.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_03: When I touched in New York by still base in New York by what?
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_03: But I get a job one time.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_00: You didn't apply neither.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't apply neither by my thing by I don't apply no papers that apply for him, apply nothing.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_03: I tell you, I I by his late one I had applied for him, never apply for a job in my life.
• 53:36
  Corie: So, where what else were you doing at the time when you came back and you started writing?
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_03: Um, when I came back, um, from time to time I was working, Iowa had a station is um all right, yeah.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_03: The station you'll play soccer.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_03: So when I was here, I would do that radio and stuff, and you know, write, I was writing, writing a lot.
• 53:49
  Corie: You're starting back to enjoy radio.
• 53:50
  Corie: I think I remember you say you was bored, you started back.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, well, yeah, it's something I always love.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, I wasn't getting to do it over there as much as I could.
• 53:58
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, the hot 97 thing could have probably woke out if it didn't have 9-11 and thing and that kind of thing, you know.
• 54:03
  SPEAKER_03: But um, yeah, I mean, always always love radio stuff.
• 54:05
  Corie: Right.
• 54:05
  Corie: So when you got when you when you started getting back into radio, can I remember you on Boom Champions at one time?
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was later on.
• 54:10
  SPEAKER_03: That was in I joined Boom Champions in 2010.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_03: This is the early 2000s, we're talking about before Boom Champions.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_03: Um, well, I I got I did go back away.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_03: When I went back away, no, that's when I had us again.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_03: First time in my life, 95 job.
• 54:22
  Corie: Right, yeah, yeah.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_03: I went well, it was still musically inclined because at least when I do my resume, I look at it, you say, Well, yeah, but this other do music.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_03: I went to work in Virgin Megastore.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, nice Virgin Mega.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_03: So I was MDJ in there, and you know, we're selling these CDs and stuff.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_03: I worked at Virgin Mega Store, Hard Rock Cafe, and Bose.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_03: Bose, you know, oh all music, all music, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 54:43
  Corie: But do even so go back to outcast and them.
• 54:46
  Corie: When you was doing with them, you wasn't.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that was like street promotion with the Chris.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_03: Street promotions, you know, we'd be on tour and that kind of that back in those days.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_03: I was when the the new era of hip-hop.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I mean.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, we can use a room and now we're gonna be able to know coming out.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so that was that was real fun.
• 55:00
  Corie: Interesting, interesting.
• 55:01
  Corie: So, how long you stay abroad for that time?
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_03: That time um, when I went back, um, let me say 2004 to 2008.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_03: My mom wanted to come back because I had an aunt.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_03: Well, her sister had cancer, right?
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_03: She wanted to come back home.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_03: So I wasn't thinking I should stay up here or I should come back, you know.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I went thinking about what to do and praying about what to do.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_03: I got a call from Big George Wayne Lablanc, right?
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_03: Hot 93.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_03: So there was somebody in the afternoon, hot 93.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_03: I say, okay.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_03: So I came back down to Hot 93 in the afternoons, you know.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_03: And that was cool.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_03: That was like a different format that's like pop top 40.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_03: But you ready for that, too?
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_03: I ready?
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_03: Why can't we get an East Station Indian East Indian station format thing?
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_03: I yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 55:43
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_03: So I did Hot 93 for at least a two years, and then I went fine, you know, I was missing the urban radio, right?
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_03: And then um the late well, Glen Roy Watson, late Glen Roy Watson, yeah.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_03: He spoke to O'Brien for me, and then that's how I ended up on Boom Champion.
• 55:56
  Corie: So tell me something because I in my mind at least, as I was a man who loved radio and always listened to radio, I had Boom Champions as long as real young people think.
• 56:04
  Corie: I don't think I listened to Boom for a long period of time.
• 56:06
  Corie: You were the veteran on Boom at the time, or they had the the other it was other DC.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, yeah, I was probably the oldest person on the evening.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_03: But they brought it back like an urban legend, came back, I see all that kind of thing, you know.
• 56:16
  Corie: I see and you enjoy it?
• 56:17
  Corie: Do you enjoy the time?
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, this I was as little rough here.
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_03: This I caught me coming back with my, you know, all our ideas, New York ideas, and things.
• 56:24
  SPEAKER_03: And when it when you live away and you come back, we put us be kind of slow.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_03: It's kind of slow here.
• 56:29
  SPEAKER_03: You live away, you come back here, boy.
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_03: I know by the time I any mall, long circular mall, but I saw a shoebox.
• 56:37
  SPEAKER_03: That's after night, like after 9-11.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_03: And I see the show.
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_03: I went and tell the security guy, but you live a shoebox, but have a shoebox, never you nobody in checking that thing, but the godmas is saying, Abomination shoe box, you know, so boy.
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_03: So you just had to recondition yourself back to Trinity.
• 57:00
  Corie: Of course, I'm with you, I'm with you.
• 57:01
  Corie: And I guess he never stopped writing on them kind of things while he was.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_03: Cool wrote on that with Rocky and Road.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_03: There's a lot of songs that I wrote that I did not say that I wrote.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_03: Because there was a time I was getting a little opposition.
• 57:15
  SPEAKER_03: Serious, yeah, because of things I said on radio.
• 57:17
  Corie: Oh, yes on radio, boy.
• 57:19
  SPEAKER_03: Well, boy, they tell the story.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_03: There are a couple of couple of people I may have offended.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_03: I like it.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_03: Some people would not play my music no matter what.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_03: Serious, no matter what I do.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_03: Let me get some names there.
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_03: Bomb.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_03: Like Rachel Price.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_03: Uh-huh.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_03: No, when I was working with Ivan, I wanted Bruno.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_03: I think that was in 2002.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_03: Give me a blindness.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_03: Uh-oh.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_03: Rachel Price always bad talking, me.
• 57:42
  SPEAKER_03: She belly and she bam bam.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_03: She bam bam and she belly.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_03: No, I did working with that time.
• 57:46
  SPEAKER_03: I'm working with a DJ.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_03: The DJ, she belly and she bam bam, the bam bam, and she belly, the belly and she bam bam, the belly and she belly, the belly and she bam bam, the belly itchy.
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_03: And I like what the and right he pulling that back, wheeling it up thing.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_03: I just did innocent.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_03: Rachel Price never talked to me after that.
• 58:04
  SPEAKER_03: I said my music car play at all.
• 58:08
  SPEAKER_03: That's one.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_03: Right, their boy Blaze.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_03: Blaze, no, I believe this was in 2010, right?
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_03: 2010.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_03: Then they just come off a palance.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_03: And I think Nikki Manaj had come down to do a concert in the stadium.
• 58:20
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_03: And Blaze performing, and you know I got them fellas performing and their pants falling down, right?
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_03: So I was like, well, not that guy watching, man, but I'm you're seeing the pants falling.
• 58:29
  unknown: Right?
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_03: So next day I went on radio now, do a little parody upon Palance.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_03: Now, these are things that no fan, mind you, these people is people who be talking about people, huh?
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_03: Talking about people.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_03: So nobody can talk about them, especially me.
• 58:41
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_03: So I went and do a thing.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_03: We didn't want to see the jaws that you was wearing, that you was wearing.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_03: The big dot is thinking, jaws.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_03: I said, jump up, jump up, jump up, pull your pants up, pull up the pant, pull up the pant, pull up the pants and record that and think.
• 58:59
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, record and play that radio.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 59:02
  SPEAKER_03: So the biggest music will never play for the time many others.
• 59:13
  SPEAKER_03: Like since 2010, we're talking about.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_03: But if you can tell me something, but I said a game mother, talk and tell about your mother.
• 59:23
  SPEAKER_03: That is it, no, you're pointing what a cry yourself.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_03: I make a real bullies cry in school, you know.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 59:28
  SPEAKER_03: So and there are others along the way and think and plenty, and they're pettiness, man.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_03: You know what I mean?
• 59:32
  Corie: Yeah, I find so.
• 59:33
  Corie: I find it so.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_03: So that times when I was writing, I couldn't say that I wrote.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_03: I wrote some big songs, but I cannot say that I write it because if it comes out, I write it, they didn't go play.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I understand.
• 59:44
  Corie: I understand.
• 59:45
  Corie: So I always tell you I wait, I'll wait you.
• 59:47
  Corie: So you're continuing putting out songs for yourself and things too?
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's what I do.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_03: So like I say, I just try to stop at us, try that, just try that, try it.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_03: Like, you know, like drugs, but I never say like drugs and then, but you just keep going.
• 59:58
  SPEAKER_03: Like I said, I always keep hearing music in my head.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_03: So it's just it just can't come out.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm I'm continuing to.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_03: So where did Stush going in the bush come from now?
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_03: You stush any bush, alright.
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_03: So when I I did that song, right?
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_03: Who that song?
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_03: The stushiny bush didn't come out yet.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_03: It was boom boom.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_03: I just want to win a na boom boom.
• 1:00:11
  SPEAKER_03: I just wanted them boom boom.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, see, you want to forget you almost forget a Didi song.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_03: Did you song?
• 1:00:17
  SPEAKER_03: The song name is Boom Boom.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_03: So I did that song name Boom Boom.
• 1:00:21
  SPEAKER_03: I sent that song to three producers here.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_03: None of them liked it.
• 1:00:24
  SPEAKER_03: Because remember, we were going through this phase in Trinidad where you know we music had a song a certain way because you want to win our Grammy.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_03: So it had a song like piano music, it had a song nice, it had a song slow, it had a you know, song a particular kind of way.
• 1:00:37
  Corie: It had a it had an RB.
• 1:00:39
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, the R B socker, the ADM soccer thing.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_03: So the when we was coming to authentic, authentic soccer with horns and things, me want to hear that you old thing.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_03: You know, because I mean, even when the song came out, as good as it was, DJs, them young DJs didn't want to play it, you know.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's too old, what kind of old thing is that?
• 1:00:55
  SPEAKER_03: So when I wrote that song now, three D three producers, big name producers, two here and one living in New York.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_03: They didn't want to produce it.
• 1:01:03
  SPEAKER_03: I send it for Red Boys, right?
• 1:01:05
  SPEAKER_03: I send it to Scott and you think Barbados and within 20 minutes.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_03: Scott messaged me right away.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_03: I said, Basically, we want to do this.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_03: But I sat a quick I said, but me and I all that money to go to Barbados and thing and stay for days and record and thing.
• 1:01:16
  SPEAKER_03: He said, Nah, but you could just come up a Saturday and thing and do it.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_03: So I went up a Saturday morning, first flight out to Barbados.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_03: Um by 10 o'clock we was in the studio.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_03: By you know, 11, 12 o'clock we finished and thing.
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_03: But they say that a little they have a little part in the in the and you start there.
• 1:01:33
  SPEAKER_03: You had to put something there with the thing-ing thing, thing-thing, thing-so I just went in and say, if you stush, go in the bush here.
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_03: If you stush, go in the bush here.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_03: If you stush, go in the bush, go in the bush, but I go in the bush here.
• 1:01:44
  SPEAKER_03: And that little stuff and it's become the whole song.
• 1:01:48
  SPEAKER_03: The name of the song is Boom Boom.
• 1:01:49
  SPEAKER_03: I just want to wind up just if you're stuck, go in the bush, bush all over the place.
• 1:01:53
  SPEAKER_03: I perform and I'd be cutting bush before I perform, all kind of thing.
• 1:01:56
  SPEAKER_03: People say, boy, bass is destroying the the hotel cult here.
• 1:02:00
  SPEAKER_03: You know the plants and thing.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_03: That make the song, yes.
• 1:02:06
  Corie: But listen, they had to make the song because the ear of the song come out.
• 1:02:09
  Corie: I don't know, maybe you sing it and the thing gets worse because no, if you don't must touch that.
• 1:02:14
  Corie: Well, yeah, it's that was 2016.
• 1:02:16
  Corie: So imagine now, right?
• 1:02:17
  Corie: Ten years ago.
• 1:02:18
  Corie: Yeah, because no one.
• 1:02:19
  SPEAKER_03: That was me singing an attack on her.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_03: I was really seeing how the thing was going with the phone.
• 1:02:23
  SPEAKER_03: Now I had a girlfriend at the time, right?
• 1:02:25
  SPEAKER_03: And she wanted to wear them heels.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_03: And you know them women and them, the heels are break out them heels.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_03: I say, Girl, do wear them new heels.
• 1:02:32
  SPEAKER_03: The thing we were going out with inclusive, right?
• 1:02:35
  SPEAKER_03: Reach any party, what any party, she buy the ambulance, she foot hot in, they don't make my sergeant, you foot and all kind of thing.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_03: I say, Girl, gosh, boy.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_03: So that gave me the idea really for the song.
• 1:02:46
  Corie: I just want to let you know that if you watch or you listen to this episode to this point and you didn't subscribe yet, you're wicked in real life.
• 1:02:53
  Corie: You have a wicked spirit.
• 1:02:54
  Corie: Do it now.
• 1:02:55
  Corie: And here now, only wicked to tell people the episode and them ain't long enough, you know.
• 1:02:59
  Corie: Only saying the episodes ain't long enough, and then when I check it, you're not subscribed to the channel.
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  Corie: How it could get longer?
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  Corie: How you're gonna get part two.
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  Corie: These people are not cheap to bring out here, and all these people behind the cameras, they're expensive.
• 1:03:11
  Corie: If not in cash, on my psyche, they're very, very expensive.
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  Corie: Before you go, right, you have to tell me about we start by saying tooth base, you say it in tooth base.
• 1:03:19
  Corie: No, you say after stush, they come and they look for you, right?
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um well, I got a letter from the original toothbase, a rap group from thing, MC search, and some white boys to white boys of America.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I could have fighted there because tooth base do belong to you, right?
• 1:03:32
  SPEAKER_03: It's a toothbase in baseball thing.
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  Corie: I suppose, yeah, and you have your way to base came up as a group to give the explanation.
• 1:03:39
  SPEAKER_03: But they did they wrote my letter because remember that time that same Sushini Bush was playing on even on hot 97 on American radio, right?
• 1:03:45
  SPEAKER_03: And that kind of stuff, you know.
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_03: So you send me this letter and I say instead of fighting it, let me use it to rebrand myself.
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_03: So I went to base aka trilogy, which was the three things that I do radio announcer, artists, DJs, right?
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_03: That's where the trilogy comes in, right?
• 1:03:59
  SPEAKER_03: But you a trending audience by oh god by bass, till till bass, you know?
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_03: Only like some of them still go by in Marcy and say high-loo.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_03: What do you mean?
• 1:04:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's still Independence Square, still, still, yeah.
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_00: We don't we don't allow people to change names.
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  SPEAKER_03: So since already had bass no time, because remember, I had this when I was doing dance, so good to recognate cobrad, give me the job.
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_03: Third bass had no time to waste 100% music, straight to your face on 96.1 FM, FM.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_03: Come back to that.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, right.
• 1:04:28
  SPEAKER_03: So I'm yeah, so I say, Well, bass, no time to waste.
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_03: At least they could get that because it's familiar to them.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_03: And again, they had bass, no time to waste.
• 1:04:35
  Corie: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:04:35
  Corie: Well, everybody's calling bass anyway.
• 1:04:37
  Corie: But the base is constant.
• 1:04:38
  Corie: Yeah, good, good, good.
• 1:04:39
  Corie: I was wondering if the trilogy thing come from like Tyrant Duck Rachel price on them, so they ain't gonna know who it is.
• 1:04:44
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I got that was the idea too.
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  Corie: The people behind the scenes tell me before you go.
• 1:04:50
  Corie: Yeah, they'll tell me the story behind how you end up living '96.
• 1:04:54
  SPEAKER_03: Well, um, no, I left '96 because I wanted to leave.
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_03: But there was an incident where there are other people feel that that was the cause that I got fired.
• 1:05:01
  SPEAKER_03: I never got fired.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_03: I left.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_03: Um, there was an incident.
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_03: What had happened was um remember my mom was living away, right?
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_03: So she's just in a barrel.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_03: She was in a barrel.
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_03: So there was one day, I don't know if you ever experienced having to go and collect a barrel down by shed nine.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_03: Whole day you had to be there.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 1:05:19
  SPEAKER_03: So I left home.
• 1:05:20
  SPEAKER_03: I don't think I had a hearty breakfast at 8 a.m.
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  SPEAKER_03: I'd also go to work on the radio for four because I was working for laundry time.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_03: So I was working four to seven for him and then seven to nine p.m.
• 1:05:30
  SPEAKER_03: for me.
• 1:05:30
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 1:05:31
  SPEAKER_03: So I left their thing.
• 1:05:32
  SPEAKER_03: When the barrel came through down by shed nine, it was probably about three o'clock, so I just had to rush home thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: Drop barrel home, you know.
• 1:05:39
  SPEAKER_03: I'm not even have lunch.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I went to work at four.
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  SPEAKER_03: At 4 p.m.
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  SPEAKER_03: I woke my ship four to seven.
• 1:05:45
  SPEAKER_03: Um my ship's work is shift four to seven, hope my ship seven to nine.
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_03: Nine o'clock, somebody's supposed to come and relieve me.
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  SPEAKER_03: At final, like ten past nine, I said, quarter past nine, and say, I'm making a call, I'll call anybody program director was at any time.
• 1:05:59
  SPEAKER_03: Won't say his name.
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  SPEAKER_03: Program director is supposed to be accessible to the station because he's supposed to line up things.
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_03: Nobody answered me.
• 1:06:05
  SPEAKER_03: So launching not answing, program director not answering.
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  SPEAKER_03: The person supposed to come after me not answering.
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_03: Let the final later that person went away.
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_03: So I call a guy who's supposed to relieve me at 12 midnight.
• 1:06:14
  SPEAKER_03: I see next week.
• 1:06:15
  SPEAKER_03: 12 midnight, right?
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  SPEAKER_03: 12 midnight.
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  SPEAKER_03: His name is David Phillips.
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  SPEAKER_03: Hi David.
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  SPEAKER_03: David Phillips.
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  SPEAKER_03: I call I say David.
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  SPEAKER_03: David are real out eight.
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  SPEAKER_03: Hungry or fainting and thing.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was out all day.
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  SPEAKER_03: I didn't get to eat anything.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_03: Could you please come in a little earlier?
• 1:06:30
  SPEAKER_03: It's about half past about half past 10 or something.
• 1:06:34
  SPEAKER_03: So you say, Yeah, yeah, how come, man?
• 1:06:36
  SPEAKER_03: How come?
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  SPEAKER_03: Boy, quarter to 11.
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  SPEAKER_03: I ain't see no David.
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_03: 11 right here.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right here.
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  SPEAKER_03: 11 I see David Fuller, quarter past 11, I see David Fuller.
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  SPEAKER_03: So they had this thing called a mini displayer.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 1:06:48
  SPEAKER_03: No, I tell you I read out it and thing.
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_03: Mini display has about 25 songs.
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  SPEAKER_03: Right?
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  SPEAKER_03: So I, in my good judgment, thought I left 25 songs to repeat.
• 1:06:59
  SPEAKER_03: So I say by the time David comes, even if I go back to one little thing.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_03: But it just so happened, I left one song repeating instead of the 25 songs.
• 1:07:07
  SPEAKER_03: That song was Jenet and Buster rhymes.
• 1:07:09
  SPEAKER_03: It's a party coming on tonight.
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_03: But I really find when I think I jump in the car, I take a taxi.
• 1:07:15
  Corie: So you leave, you just leave it programmed.
• 1:07:17
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I leave it programmed.
• 1:07:17
  SPEAKER_03: But I thought I'd program all the songs.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_03: So you're still here, it's a party coming on tonight.
• 1:07:24
  SPEAKER_03: And we show by the bass.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_03: So I just I didn't even be in a just driving nothing.
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_03: The next day I hear a phone call, you leave the song thing playing thing.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_03: People asking me if I if I okay and thing.
• 1:07:34
  SPEAKER_03: I said, but people asking you if you're okay.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_03: So what about me?
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_03: Nobody in answering.
• 1:07:38
  SPEAKER_03: Who's right?
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, buddy.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_03: Right?
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_03: So I mean, I mean, it's like, I mean, I'm not taking away any four, but I did try to reach out to everybody responsible, but nobody came on.
• 1:07:49
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't even know if David Phillips came in when he came in, but the song ended up repeating over and over.
• 1:07:53
  SPEAKER_03: So it wasn't like I did it on purpose.
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 1:07:56
  SPEAKER_03: I got suspended for two months.
• 1:07:57
  SPEAKER_03: They suspended me for two months.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, that's a long time.
• 1:07:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but no, they had it was a caller back before because at that time it was the dance, so good to be sure when it wasn't probably going like how it was supposed to go.
• 1:08:06
  SPEAKER_03: So they ended up calling me back.
• 1:08:08
  SPEAKER_03: But it was all there.
• 1:08:09
  Corie: Yeah.
• 1:08:10
  Corie: So that you didn't get fired.
• 1:08:11
  Corie: No, I did not get fired.
• 1:08:12
  Corie: I was just a little bit.
• 1:08:14
  Corie: All right, good, all right, good.
• 1:08:15
  Corie: Make sure you before you do your shift on fire signal, right?
• 1:08:17
  SPEAKER_03: And then they said they now know 24 was by certain places and things, so you can't get on to you.
• 1:08:21
  Corie: Oh, yeah, it's true.
• 1:08:22
  Corie: That's a different story too.
• 1:08:23
  Corie: When you lock down the door, you're locked down for real.
• 1:08:25
  Corie: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:26
  Corie: Well, brother, listen, thanks.
• 1:08:27
  Corie: I want to thank you personally for everything that you do and do.
• 1:08:29
  Corie: And I always watch and I love the interviews on flowers and pause.
• 1:08:32
  Corie: And I'm grateful for you as a radio man because I feel we have plenty of people in radio who do if you miss the shift, you just miss the whole thing.
• 1:08:40
  Corie: And I feel like some of that work you're doing is so important.
• 1:08:42
  Corie: So good that you have the opportunity to at least put some pieces of it on social media.
• 1:08:46
  Corie: Yeah, man.
• 1:08:46
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm a guy on radio too.
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, people just go and read it.
• 1:08:48
  SPEAKER_03: There's no no defense everybody.
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_03: Like, just do your do shout-outs on radio and just do normal radio.
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_03: So I can't do that.
• 1:08:54
  SPEAKER_03: Anytime I go and read it, there must be a focal point or something.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_03: You must learn something, do something.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_03: I also have something that um I do call base classifieds, where I find jobs for people on a Wednesday.
• 1:09:04
  SPEAKER_03: You know, find jobs because I've probably some there are a lot of people looking for work, and of course, there are a lot of job groups out there.
• 1:09:09
  SPEAKER_03: So I have a page called Ad Base Classified.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_03: Looking for work, looking for work because I will find jobs for people on the air.
• 1:09:15
  Corie: I appreciate that, man.
• 1:09:16
  Corie: Well, thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen.
• 1:09:17
  Corie: Adrian Action, I'm gonna be time to it.
• 1:09:21
  Corie: Thanks for the gift.
• 1:09:22
  Corie: Thanks for the gift.
• 1:09:22
  Corie: Thanks for the gift.
• 1:09:24
  Corie: No, no, no, it's not a good idea.
• 1:09:25
  Corie: Thanks very much, thanks very much.