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Heavy Metal Book Club #40 - November 1979 · 22 Panels - A Comic Book Podcast

• 0:00
  Tad Eggleston: Thank you.
• 0:02
  Tad Eggleston: Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to the Heavy Metal Book Club on 22 Panels. Matt, you don't have to stop playing video games. I might play video games as we talk, you know, I mean, it's allowed.
• 0:13
  Matt: No, no.
• 0:14
  Matt: I want, I want focus.
• 0:17
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, okay, okay.
• 0:18
  Tad Eggleston: Sometimes my brain focuses better when it focuses on multiple things.
• 0:23
  Tad Eggleston: Anyway, having a book club on 22 panels, we have Peter, Matt, myself, and, and writer extraordinary Dylan Gilbertson, who's, my neighbor necromancer is, is nearing…
• 0:39
  Tad Eggleston: distribution on the Kickstarter, right?
• 0:42
  Dillon Gilbertson: I am neck deep in distribution as a…
• 0:44
  Tad Eggleston: Deep in distribution on this round of the Kickstarter, which means the next round of the Kickstarter is coming up soon.
• 0:52
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, I'm doing that.
• 0:53
  Tad Eggleston: That's how Dylan rolls. As soon as he ships out all the packages, he starts over.
• 0:58
  Dillon Gilbertson: Just starts… yeah, it's the vicious cycle.
• 1:03
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Sorry, it's special.
• 1:04
  Tad Eggleston: Packages have been shipped.
• 1:05
  Peter Eggleston Connor: But, we are grateful for all the hard work and dedication you do.
• 1:09
  Tad Eggleston: Absolutely, absolutely. So, before we get started, and I need to post, the episode I recorded yesterday, because I did it on this, that too, happy birthday to, to listener and brother Adam.
• 1:25
  Tad Eggleston: This happy birthday he might be listening to off of his birthday.
• 1:29
  Tad Eggleston: But it's being sent out on his birthday, whereas the last happy birthday was sent out before his birthday, but he might manage to listen to on his birthday, because that's how, timey whammy shit works in the 22 panels universe.
• 1:46
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yup.
• 1:46
  Tad Eggleston: Absolutely.
• 1:46
  Peter Eggleston Connor: birthday.
• 1:49
  Tad Eggleston: Alrighty, so how is everybody?
• 1:53
  Matt: Great.
• 1:55
  Peter Eggleston Connor: But otherwise, okay.
• 1:56
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:59
  Dillon Gilbertson: Like I said, I'm neck deep in distribution, so I'm…
• 2:02
  Dillon Gilbertson: I'm a little strung out right now.
• 2:04
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I mean, see, the problem with you saying that over and over again is, I can see your screen, and I don't see boxes up to your neck.
• 2:11
  Matt: They're in the other room, that's the problem.
• 2:16
  Tad Eggleston: Okay, that's a little bit better.
• 2:17
  Dillon Gilbertson: While we were chatting before you started recording, I was printing more labels on the printer behind me.
• 2:25
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't know, Dylan looks pretty tired.
• 2:28
  Tad Eggleston: tired.
• 2:29
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
• 2:29
  Tad Eggleston: He does look tired, I'll give him that.
• 2:31
  Dillon Gilbertson: That's everything.
• 2:32
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Also, he got a house within, like.
• 2:36
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, you…
• 2:37
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Was that after your last distribution?
• 2:40
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I knew he'd moved because Matt shipped his print to the wrong house.
• 2:46
  Dillon Gilbertson: That's right, yeah, I had to drive… I had to drive to my old apartment complex and, like, ask people if they'd seen this package. I got it, though. I did get it, and it was worth the trip. Thank you for that, Matt. It was awesome.
• 2:58
  Matt: What's up, brother?
• 2:59
  Peter Eggleston Connor: After all.
• 2:59
  Matt: I'm glad you liked it.
• 3:00
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Frame that and throw it up on a wall.
• 3:03
  Tad Eggleston: T-shirts are being worked on as well at some point.
• 3:05
  Dillon Gilbertson: Amazing. I'm so excited for that. That's incredible.
• 3:11
  Tad Eggleston: Speaking of which, and we won't say names on the air, but I did, did talk to our friend at C2E2 and emailed him with it recently, Matt, so we should finally get that sketch for you to…
• 3:26
  Tad Eggleston: ink up and turn into a t-shirt.
• 3:29
  Matt: Seriously.
• 3:32
  Tad Eggleston: Hopefully.
• 3:33
  Matt: Awesome!
• 3:34
  Tad Eggleston: I got an email this week, he's like.
• 3:35
  Matt: Who's giving up hope?
• 3:38
  Tad Eggleston: I… like, this is one of my autism things I, like, never forget, which is why I emphasize to people, don't say things to me just to be nice. If the answer is no, just say so.
• 3:51
  Matt: I know. I'm the same way, dude. Same way.
• 3:54
  Tad Eggleston: Because… because I… I can handle a no. It might upset me for a minute or two, but, like, if you say yes when you mean no, I will keep reminding you FOREVER.
• 4:09
  Tad Eggleston: I'll try to be really polite about it. I try not to be, like, that nag. I try to have, like…
• 4:14
  Tad Eggleston: Depending on the relationship, anywhere between, like, a week and a 6-month window before the next reminder.
• 4:21
  Matt: Yeah. Hey, speaking of, when was the last time you talked to China?
• 4:28
  Tad Eggleston: I texted with her this week.
• 4:31
  Matt: Okay, did she get a package from me recently?
• 4:34
  Tad Eggleston: I do not know.
• 4:36
  Matt: Ask her, because it got stuck under the seat of my car way back when, and then my daughter totaled my car, and when she cleaned it out.
• 4:44
  Matt: it was in the box, but I didn't go through the box until months later, so I'm like, oh my god, I have to send this! It was so embarrassing.
• 4:52
  Tad Eggleston: Gotcha.
• 4:54
  Matt: Well, I…
• 4:54
  Tad Eggleston: I'll send a text right now.
• 4:56
  Matt: And I honestly don't even remember what I mailed her, but I cut a slit in the top and put a note in there saying, China, I'm so sorry!
• 5:09
  Tad Eggleston: When would she have gotten it?
• 5:12
  Matt: Around the same time you got your print from me.
• 5:17
  Tad Eggleston: So, like, a month ago?
• 5:18
  Matt: Bare arm, baby.
• 5:20
  Tad Eggleston: Is that a month or two?
• 5:22
  Matt: Two, two or three, maybe.
• 5:25
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Maybe we could go see what the whole discussion with Dylan was.
• 5:30
  Dillon Gilbertson: In the, in the text thread?
• 5:32
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah.
• 5:34
  Tad Eggleston: Alright.
• 5:45
  Tad Eggleston: I sent a text message. That'll be the last that we do on air, but I'll keep you posted.
• 5:54
  Peter Eggleston Connor: February 6th, so, like, was when Dylan got…
• 5:57
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I, I, I…
• 5:57
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I said a couple of months ago.
• 5:59
  Tad Eggleston: That's a couple of months ago.
• 6:02
  Peter Eggleston Connor: That's fine.
• 6:05
  Peter Eggleston Connor: And here I am, we are on air, and I'm just giving out dates.
• 6:08
  Matt: It is.
• 6:09
  Tad Eggleston: So, November, November, 1979.
• 6:18
  Tad Eggleston: So still before I was on this earth.
• 6:22
  Matt: I was here, but not old enough to read.
• 6:25
  Matt: as to… No, I was… I was 3. 76, 77.
• 6:31
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I wouldn't be born for, like, 9 years.
• 6:34
  Matt: And I… Sweet.
• 6:36
  Tad Eggleston: I… I was… I was gestating.
• 6:43
  Peter Eggleston Connor: There you go.
• 6:46
  Tad Eggleston: You were in production.
• 6:50
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, as I said, you were in production.
• 6:52
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I was 4 months away.
• 6:55
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. It was coming.
• 6:56
  Matt: This is… this happens to be one of the issues I have a physical copy of, and was fortunate enough to get Joe Jesko to sign it.
• 7:05
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, that's a… that's a wonderful cover, I can understand why you would have… It's a good…
• 7:09
  Tad Eggleston: cover.
• 7:10
  Matt: Yeah, and Joe is a wonderful man, super kind, and always willing to sign something, so shout out to Joe Jusco, woo!
• 7:18
  Dillon Gilbertson: Nice.
• 7:21
  Tad Eggleston: So, what are our first, like, overall… bots.
• 7:29
  Dillon Gilbertson: The stories… the stories, on average, were very long, but the issue itself somehow felt very short.
• 7:36
  Matt: Yes, I felt the same way!
• 7:39
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I sometimes think that that happens because the stories are longer.
• 7:43
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, it's less stories, so it feels shorter, even though those stories are much longer.
• 7:47
  Matt: Yes.
• 7:48
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah.
• 7:49
  Tad Eggleston: Particularly if.
• 7:51
  Peter Eggleston Connor: long.
• 7:53
  Tad Eggleston: Particularly as long as none of the stories are, like, out-and-out slogs.
• 7:59
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
• 8:02
  Tad Eggleston: you know.
• 8:03
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I don't remember any of them feeling like they were just, like…
• 8:08
  Peter Eggleston Connor: There was, like, a few where I was, like, trying to figure out when they would end, because it was like, oh, this feels like it's been going on for a while, but…
• 8:16
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, there was… there was that one about the two brothers or cousins fighting with magic swords.
• 8:22
  Matt: Yup, it's all right now.
• 8:24
  Dillon Gilbertson: I was like, I love this art so much, but I… what… I… this feels like it doesn't need to keep going.
• 8:30
  Dillon Gilbertson: Like, I don't know what…
• 8:31
  Matt: Just show me the pictures, I felt the same.
• 8:34
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, yeah, that was so weird. I remember that, because I fight with the swords, and then, like, it's like, oh, I'm gonna go off and, like, try to make our civilization better, and leave you with this…
• 8:45
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Wacko brother, and it's like… or cousin, whatever.
• 8:50
  Matt: Yeah, Elric is pretty wordy. Michael Morcah.
• 8:53
  Peter Eggleston Connor: And also, you should come with me. No, my place is here. It's like, okay…
• 8:59
  Dillon Gilbertson: I have a few things that I need to tell you about tax code.
• 9:03
  Peter Eggleston Connor: See, see?
• 9:04
  Tad Eggleston: Here, here, here's the… the… this is where it worked out well for me,
• 9:09
  Tad Eggleston: I… I treated Elric the way I treated…
• 9:13
  Tad Eggleston: Star's My Destination, which is… I… I was all over the art and skipped the words.
• 9:19
  Matt: Yeah.
• 9:20
  Dillon Gilbertson: Desper, I mean, honestly, didn't… I don't think you missed too much.
• 9:23
  Matt: I skimmed the words just to make sure I wasn't missing anything, and I was like, yeah, okay, this makes sense.
• 9:27
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Unlike Where's My Destination, I actually read through Elric, because it was not in the, you know, they didn't make it mostly prose, and then…
• 9:37
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Or make it, like, you know…
• 9:38
  Tad Eggleston: But they have done Huge Pros parts of previous…
• 9:44
  Peter Eggleston Connor: That works.
• 9:45
  Tad Eggleston: LRIX.
• 9:46
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I think they did a huge pros part in this one, too, didn't they?
• 9:51
  Peter Eggleston Connor: They… they masked it more as,
• 9:55
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Comic, and less is, like, prose with pictures.
• 10:00
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Right. I know that's, like, not always a,
• 10:06
  Peter Eggleston Connor: That's not an easy dividing line, but it's definitely, like, there's definitely things that feel like they're more prose-oriented, and definitely things that feel like they're more comic-oriented, right?
• 10:20
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Anyhow.
• 10:26
  Matt: Are we starting with Ralph, or are we just gonna jump in willy-nilly?
• 10:29
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I was, I was, I was, I was stopping for a second here, because…
• 10:36
  Tad Eggleston: I like this picture.
• 10:38
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, yeah.
• 10:39
  Matt: Yeah, this issue is gonna be real hard to pick a favorite panel.
• 10:43
  Dillon Gilbertson: Oh, I got one, though.
• 10:44
  Matt: artwork.
• 10:45
  Dillon Gilbertson: Got one right here.
• 10:46
  Matt: It's locked in!
• 10:50
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, that is a really interesting picture, and I probably didn't spend enough time with it.
• 10:55
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I'm wondering if I saw it.
• 10:57
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, that looks like.
• 10:58
  Tad Eggleston: spent enough time with it before, which is why I stopped with it this time.
• 11:02
  Dillon Gilbertson: That looks like the space.
• 11:04
  Dillon Gilbertson: baby from 2001 Space Odyssey grew up.
• 11:07
  Tad Eggleston: Damn.
• 11:07
  Peter Eggleston Connor: There you go.
• 11:08
  Peter Eggleston Connor: There you go.
• 11:10
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, I just don't… didn't even remember that there were mountains or… or grave, gravestones in that picture.
• 11:18
  Tad Eggleston: I also loved both of the…
• 11:21
  Tad Eggleston: pictures here.
• 11:22
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah.
• 11:23
  Dillon Gilbertson: I… I was mad I couldn't get this trucker hat anymore.
• 11:29
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, I'd be… I'm pretty mad about that, too. I'm with you, Dylan.
• 11:33
  Matt: Oh, I'm sure you could find one on eBay.
• 11:35
  Tad Eggleston: And another great…
• 11:38
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Could probably also get a replicate somehow.
• 11:43
  Tad Eggleston: Apparently, that's Plymouth Rock, sometime in the future.
• 11:47
  Matt: Something.
• 11:48
  Dillon Gilbertson: No.
• 11:49
  Tad Eggleston: Or, maybe it's actually a… spaceship.
• 11:53
  Dillon Gilbertson: Have you seen Plymouth Rock?
• 11:54
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Isn't that a Plymouth car that's been.
• 11:56
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I was about to say, no, I think it's a Plymouth spaceship.
• 11:59
  Dillon Gilbertson: Okay, yeah, there we go. Oh, I see. And they're… they're the new… that's the… that's the new Mayflower, or whatever, like, they…
• 12:08
  Dillon Gilbertson: Their spaceship, Mayflower, came and planted their space flag on Plymouth.
• 12:13
  Dillon Gilbertson: Plymouth Cadillac, Plymouth Car.
• 12:17
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Rolf was so good.
• 12:19
  Dillon Gilbertson: I also really liked Roth a lot.
• 12:22
  Matt: Yeah, I was… I didn't…
• 12:24
  Tad Eggleston: Nice to have Corbin back.
• 12:26
  Tad Eggleston: left hand.
• 12:27
  Matt: I didn't realize it was Corbin until the third panel, and I'm like, this looks like Corbin. And then I'm like, oh, it is Corbin!
• 12:32
  Dillon Gilbertson: Hello, bro.
• 12:34
  Dillon Gilbertson: the whole time, I was just concerned that Ralph was gonna get hurt, and I was like, I'll… I'll never read Corbin again if this dog…
• 12:42
  Dillon Gilbertson: This dog dies.
• 12:44
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, he might have heard it.
• 12:45
  Tad Eggleston: the.
• 12:45
  Peter Eggleston Connor: But he's definitely gonna be the hero, so…
• 12:48
  Dillon Gilbertson: But if he's a… but if he's a dog-man hybrid monster… monstrosity, like, then I'm okay with it. If he's got human consciousness, then I'm okay with him dying, but, like, a dog doesn't understand why… why bad things are happening to them, and that's what makes it so sad.
• 13:02
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, yeah, that's, that's fair.
• 13:05
  Matt: Speaking of, on Easter…
• 13:08
  Matt: I was getting something out of the oven, the lower oven, and my dog… I spilled… a little drop came and hit the… hit the door, and my dog tried to lick it, so I pushed him away, and he got all mad at me, thought I was trying to hurt him.
• 13:20
  Matt: go ahead 15 minutes, I'm going to get the thing out and be done with it. He licked the… he licked it when I turned my back, and then he was, like, grunting and huffing and puffing, it was so fucking…
• 13:32
  Matt: I was like, you licked this, you licked the door, didn't you, you dummy?
• 13:37
  Tad Eggleston: Did you… did you see, Dylan.
• 13:40
  Dillon Gilbertson: Well, I'm looking at it.
• 13:41
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 13:42
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, for our, for our listeners, or watchers, maybe, now?
• 13:46
  Tad Eggleston: We haven't gotten that far yet.
• 13:48
  Dillon Gilbertson: mats.
• 13:48
  Tad Eggleston: considered it.
• 13:49
  Dillon Gilbertson: Got it. Matt sent us an email, or an eBay…
• 13:52
  Dillon Gilbertson: site that was selling the Nostromo hat. I don't… I don't think it's, I mean, it's clearly some kind of replica, because it's only $20, and they said there's 95 of them available.
• 14:04
  Dillon Gilbertson: But I might have to.
• 14:06
  Matt: Clearly, yeah.
• 14:07
  Peter Eggleston Connor: as I said, you're only really gonna have repli- er, you're likely to find replicas.
• 14:13
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
• 14:14
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Also, it's like a 30… Wow.
• 14:18
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Shit, it's like a 45, 47-year-old hat?
• 14:24
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't know if you could find any that were in, like, actually pretty good condition.
• 14:31
  Matt: Where did I say there was only 90 of them?
• 14:33
  Dillon Gilbertson: Well, down at the bottom, it says about this item. It says 5 were sold, and there are 95 available.
• 14:40
  Dillon Gilbertson: Made in China.
• 14:42
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh.
• 14:43
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Well, there you have it.
• 14:46
  Dillon Gilbertson: New with Tags.
• 14:50
  Dillon Gilbertson: Anyway…
• 14:55
  Peter Eggleston Connor: They have this, like, entirely fantasy comic, and then this zombie comes up and steals the princess.
• 15:02
  Dillon Gilbertson: Are they zombies? Are they, like, orcs? And I also have.
• 15:04
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I think they're or…
• 15:05
  Dillon Gilbertson: whether they're speaking Spanish.
• 15:06
  Peter Eggleston Connor: This one just really looks like a zombie to me.
• 15:10
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
• 15:11
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I…
• 15:11
  Dillon Gilbertson: No, no, I get you. It does look… He does. Zombie-esque.
• 15:17
  Tad Eggleston: Like, forks.
• 15:18
  Dillon Gilbertson: Zombie or.
• 15:18
  Tad Eggleston: It also looks kinda… I mean, by the next page, he looks…
• 15:24
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Feel like a zombie.
• 15:30
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, Rolf… Rolf comes and saves the day, and then runs away to…
• 15:35
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Because of this shop.
• 15:35
  Dillon Gilbertson: He's a guy he doesn't like, and…
• 15:38
  Dillon Gilbertson: A guy that nobody likes, really.
• 15:40
  Matt: Yep.
• 15:42
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yup, and then it turns out that it's not just fantasy, it also has modern tanks and shit.
• 15:49
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, this… this whole world is curious, because, like, it's got…
• 15:52
  Tad Eggleston: that.
• 15:53
  Dillon Gilbertson: a wizard and sorcery, and it seems very medieval. There's a castle, and then, like.
• 15:57
  Dillon Gilbertson: She gets kidnapped by these goblin orc-looking zombies that are driving, like, industrial military tanks.
• 16:04
  Matt: That are oddly quiet for their size.
• 16:06
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, they're apparently very quiet.
• 16:11
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, boy.
• 16:12
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Crumble.
• 16:15
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Apparently, that's the sound they make. Comple.
• 16:18
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
• 16:19
  Dillon Gilbertson: I like the look of this wizard, just like how… Haggard and old he looks.
• 16:24
  Peter Eggleston Connor: with, like, one glass eye? Yeah.
• 16:26
  Matt: He looks like a curmudgeon, he's a grump.
• 16:29
  Dillon Gilbertson: He looks like a real, real dick.
• 16:31
  Matt: Oh my god.
• 16:34
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, like, here when Rolf is trying to get them to come help the…
• 16:38
  Dillon Gilbertson: The princess, and they were like.
• 16:41
  Dillon Gilbertson: Shut that damn dog up! And I was like, they're gonna kill this dog, and I'm gonna be mad.
• 16:47
  Dillon Gilbertson: But instead, they just capture him, and then try to turn him into a human so they could talk to him.
• 16:52
  Matt: Yeah.
• 16:54
  Dillon Gilbertson: He messes up the spell, so he just, like, turns him into a werewolf that can think.
• 16:59
  Matt: Yeah.
• 17:01
  Dillon Gilbertson: Human thoughts, bro. Not human words.
• 17:02
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Because the guy keeps shouting at him while he's trying to do the spell.
• 17:07
  Dillon Gilbertson: Leo.
• 17:07
  Peter Eggleston Connor: The guy everybody hates.
• 17:11
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Blonde du Show King.
• 17:13
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Queen, prince, whatever.
• 17:15
  Dillon Gilbertson: What's his name? It's, like, Randy or something stupid.
• 17:21
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Not at Rolf, I can tell you that much.
• 17:23
  Dillon Gilbertson: Definitely not wrong.
• 17:26
  Dillon Gilbertson: Barkwoof Gurner.
• 17:28
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Go see if we can find his name.
• 17:32
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Troy, let's do this on my computer.
• 17:34
  Matt: Oh, Raymond.
• 17:35
  Dillon Gilbertson: Raymond.
• 17:38
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Everybody hates Raymond.
• 17:39
  Dillon Gilbertson: Everybody hates Raymond.
• 17:42
  Matt: Especially Rolf.
• 17:43
  Dillon Gilbertson: Everybody… in this world, everybody hates Raven, but everybody loves Chris.
• 17:48
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Right.
• 17:50
  Dillon Gilbertson: That's an old network television joke for us, for you, for you listeners.
• 17:56
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't know about Wash all that much, everybody loves Rayman.
• 17:59
  Dillon Gilbertson: I never… I never watched, really, either of those shows, but…
• 18:04
  Matt: Oh, I used to watch Raymond all the time.
• 18:06
  Dillon Gilbertson: I think I hated Raymond because it was just that show that was on after The Simpsons or something.
• 18:14
  Dillon Gilbertson: it was always just on after a show that I did like, and I was like, yeah, this is dumb.
• 18:18
  Dillon Gilbertson: Just change the channel afterward.
• 18:22
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Fair enough.
• 18:27
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Anything in particular on this page you like, Tad?
• 18:30
  Tad Eggleston: No, I'm just… I'm also doing other stuff.
• 18:34
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Wow, let's see.
• 18:35
  Tad Eggleston: because I'm behind on posting episodes, so I'm trying to get the one where Adam gets wished a happy birthday on his birthday, up on his birthday. You know, that sort of thing. I do love the way the grass…
• 18:51
  Dillon Gilbertson: It is cool, yeah.
• 18:53
  Tad Eggleston: the…
• 18:54
  Dillon Gilbertson: pattern. I really like that, too.
• 18:58
  Matt: Yep.
• 19:01
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, man.
• 19:02
  Dillon Gilbertson: Rolf turns into Dogman.
• 19:08
  Tad Eggleston: Dogman or Man-Dog?
• 19:10
  Dillon Gilbertson: So in the… so if you go back one page, there's this… there's this ad that is laying over the scan.
• 19:17
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah.
• 19:18
  Dillon Gilbertson: And I thought… I thought they were like, you need to pay money to read the rest of this issue. And I was like, oh no, are we blocked? Like, is there some… some paywall on this issue?
• 19:28
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I was, I was, wondering what was going on with that, too, and then we came to the next phase.
• 19:32
  Tad Eggleston: Weird scan where they decided to keep that scan.
• 19:35
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
• 19:37
  Matt: Well, it's a completist scan. They want you to see the subscription card.
• 19:42
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, yeah.
• 19:42
  Dillon Gilbertson: Sure, that's fair.
• 19:44
  Tad Eggleston: But they didn't make it a separate page. They just…
• 19:49
  Peter Eggleston Connor: They just made you wonder if it was being blocked.
• 19:53
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, Ralph was good.
• 19:55
  Matt: Yeah, it was.
• 19:55
  Tad Eggleston: I'm digging, Ralph.
• 19:57
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Looking forward to some more rocks.
• 19:59
  Tad Eggleston: also been collected recently by Dark Horse.
• 20:02
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Interesting.
• 20:03
  Dillon Gilbertson: Really?
• 20:04
  Tad Eggleston: Damn.
• 20:04
  Matt: Is it, like, a whole story?
• 20:06
  Tad Eggleston: The Sinbad, I think, either just came out or is coming soon, because they've been, they've been, like, collecting ALL of Corbin.
• 20:14
  Peter Eggleston Connor: So, it was Arabian Nights Sinbad, and that was it, right? They're not doing any more Arabian Nights, or… they will? I don't think so at all.
• 20:21
  Tad Eggleston: And it was new Arabian Nights, because it wasn't the…
• 20:24
  Peter Eggleston Connor: That's friend.
• 20:28
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Gotcha.
• 20:30
  Dillon Gilbertson: Hmm.
• 20:31
  Dillon Gilbertson: This next page, I think is probably my favorite panel.
• 20:37
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Daniel.
• 20:37
  Matt: Thanks, Steve, wine here.
• 20:39
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, so cool looking.
• 20:40
  Tad Eggleston: It's a pretty cool panel.
• 20:41
  Dillon Gilbertson: Giant owl attacking this little mushroom house full of mice.
• 20:44
  Matt: It totally reminded me of Secret of Nim.
• 20:47
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, I was thinking the Secret Anim, or
• 20:50
  Dillon Gilbertson: even, rockadoodle, if any of you are familiar with…
• 20:55
  Tad Eggleston: I do know that.
• 20:58
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I remember reading this one and being bewildered on, like, the direction it took.
• 21:04
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, I'll be honest, I wasn't really sure what the point of this one was. So, like, the mouse fights off the owl.
• 21:10
  Dillon Gilbertson: This mouse with the top hat, and everybody thinks…
• 21:12
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Well, he has, like, some sort of weird psychedelic dream, doesn't he?
• 21:15
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, and it was…
• 21:16
  Matt: It reminds me of the dream sequence in Big Lebowski.
• 21:20
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, yeah, correct.
• 21:21
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I almost thought, like, this first page was gonna be it, and it would have been fairly entertaining if it was it. He, like, fights off an owl, and then he just falls on his face.
• 21:31
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, like, it's, yeah, it would have been a perfectly serviceable one… one-ish page comic.
• 21:36
  Matt: Yup.
• 21:38
  Peter Eggleston Connor: But then there's more.
• 21:39
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, then he's…
• 21:41
  Matt: But wait, very… continue.
• 21:42
  Dillon Gilbertson: Continues his walk home, and…
• 21:45
  Dillon Gilbertson: Starts… seems like he was just kind of rambling to himself for a little while.
• 21:50
  Dillon Gilbertson: I'm gonna move… move us forward a little bit.
• 21:53
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I'm before it.
• 21:55
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Pray, please.
• 22:04
  Tad Eggleston: See, I feel like he's got a long journey home.
• 22:07
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Then he cusses at the route that he fell on.
• 22:12
  Matt: Yup.
• 22:13
  Peter Eggleston Connor: So now we're back on the page we were on.
• 22:16
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I was going back to… to…
• 22:20
  Dillon Gilbertson: I love it.
• 22:20
  Tad Eggleston: his dream.
• 22:21
  Dillon Gilbertson: The door… the door to his home, I mean, it… and just… probably just because it's a circular wooden door, but looks very much like Bilbo's door.
• 22:31
  Tad Eggleston: The inside looks very, very Bilbo Baggins, too.
• 22:34
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, yeah.
• 22:36
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yep.
• 22:36
  Dillon Gilbertson: Very Hob… Hobbit-esque.
• 22:38
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yep.
• 22:40
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Very Hobbit-esque.
• 22:43
  Tad Eggleston: And I… I love the Dream Pages.
• 22:49
  Tad Eggleston: Except that… Like, like, I mean, what, what I have to wonder is, like.
• 22:56
  Tad Eggleston: In part because of the Bilbo-esque door in a tree after… after having… Come out of this hut.
• 23:08
  Dillon Gilbertson: Doing drones inside that hut?
• 23:12
  Peter Eggleston Connor: It's a hard white.
• 23:14
  Tad Eggleston: Is the hut from the front cover…
• 23:19
  Tad Eggleston: Is that, like, a meeting place?
• 23:23
  Matt: Or he was just visiting friends, that's kind of hot.
• 23:25
  Tad Eggleston: meeting friends.
• 23:26
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, that's what I figured.
• 23:28
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, it kinda looks like he was watching…
• 23:29
  Tad Eggleston: You know, because… but, well, but… I mean, where I'm going, though, is that, like,
• 23:38
  Tad Eggleston: We've got this kind of crazy… Journey Home.
• 23:48
  Tad Eggleston: that doesn't seem like a normal walk either. He takes a nip from this XXX…
• 23:56
  Tad Eggleston: container… And then he, then he goes into a hobbit tree.
• 24:04
  Tad Eggleston: And things get weirder. So, my question is…
• 24:10
  Tad Eggleston: Is it actually when he goes to sleep that he leaves reality?
• 24:16
  Tad Eggleston: Or was it some point earlier than that?
• 24:18
  Matt: Right, did he leave reality when he left the house, initially?
• 24:23
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, particularly because it actually starts with a crash and a bottle being thrown out.
• 24:31
  Dillon Gilbertson: Didn't work, still out there.
• 24:34
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't know.
• 24:35
  Matt: Like, maybe the owl was a hallucination?
• 24:37
  Dillon Gilbertson: move.
• 24:38
  Matt: Who knows?
• 24:40
  Tad Eggleston: Or maybe the owl got him.
• 24:44
  Tad Eggleston: And, like.
• 24:45
  Dillon Gilbertson: It's.
• 24:45
  Tad Eggleston: It starts right there, where it's… It's really…
• 24:54
  Tad Eggleston: he's dreaming that he got rid of the owl when he's died, you know, I mean, there's so many options.
• 25:00
  Tad Eggleston: That's, that's nothing.
• 25:02
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Nothing at face value that suggests that, you know.
• 25:07
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, like, there's stuff at face value where he fell and hit his head, and then you could say he started hallucinating, that makes sense, but, like, there's nothing at face value where it says that the owl actually got him.
• 25:20
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah?
• 25:22
  Tad Eggleston: Well, except… Did he trip here, or was this when he fell out of the sky?
• 25:30
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, it depends if you believe the next panel of the story or not.
• 25:33
  Dillon Gilbertson: I was… I was sort of willing to, on the first page, run with the narrative that you don't see who throws the bottle out the window.
• 25:43
  Dillon Gilbertson: I guess there's only 3 of them there, so it was probably him, but that, like, he… he was just… he was a drunkard, and threw the bottle out, and everyone was sort of concerned for him.
• 25:53
  Dillon Gilbertson: And, like, sort of… and then instead of him leaving, they sort of kicked him out, but then, like, that whole narrative's thrown off by that sixth panel there on the middle right, that… where they're like, great job, we love you. Like, okay, well, that doesn't work then.
• 26:07
  Tad Eggleston: But it's also… it's also not come back in, it's, here's your…
• 26:12
  Dillon Gilbertson: Good job, please leave.
• 26:13
  Matt: No, but the owl was keeping him in the house, because he didn't want to die, so he was trying to get rid of the owl so he could leave.
• 26:20
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Bum.
• 26:21
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, this is where we also go…
• 26:23
  Tad Eggleston: The owl was massive on page 1.
• 26:26
  Matt: Yeah.
• 26:26
  Tad Eggleston: And not so massive here, so…
• 26:29
  Dillon Gilbertson: There was no…
• 26:30
  Tad Eggleston: that the other two mice can see?
• 26:33
  Dillon Gilbertson: The owl was the first hallucination.
• 26:36
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Sure. I don't know. I mean…
• 26:41
  Dillon Gilbertson: So, okay, so hold on, so run with me, go with me on this. On this first one, so he throws the bottle out because he thinks there's an owl out there. He says, oh no, it didn't work, but he's been out there all night.
• 26:52
  Dillon Gilbertson: And then…
• 26:54
  Dillon Gilbertson: what do we do, Mousy? We ain't taking it, that's what. So, like, they're… they don't really know that they've seen the owl.
• 27:00
  Dillon Gilbertson: Or we don't… it's possible they didn't see the owl. He was just like…
• 27:04
  Dillon Gilbertson: He's like, what are we gonna do with you? Like, you're being a fucking problem right now.
• 27:09
  Dillon Gilbertson: And then he goes out, and then he's like, he's like, cool, I defeated this imaginary thing that isn't real. And then they're like, great job, good work.
• 27:17
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Little pardon gras, like, make all these convoluted stories.
• 27:22
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
• 27:23
  Tad Eggleston: Well, but part of that…
• 27:23
  Dillon Gilbertson: Trying to make a knock.
• 27:24
  Tad Eggleston: Huh?
• 27:25
  Dillon Gilbertson: Very good, Peter.
• 27:26
  Tad Eggleston: No, I loved this story, and I hadn't come up with all of that, but I'd also felt like there was more, and part of the reason I love this story is, like.
• 27:36
  Tad Eggleston: The mouse itself is reminiscent of Crazy Cat.
• 27:40
  Tad Eggleston: Though also reminiscent of, like, rat bad guys in any number of cartoons.
• 27:51
  Tad Eggleston: you know, the forest that he walks through reminds me of a lot of his early Disney forests.
• 27:59
  Tad Eggleston: You've got the, the dead-on Hobbit reference.
• 28:06
  Tad Eggleston: Followed by a Nemo in Wonderland reference.
• 28:10
  Dillon Gilbertson: Hmm. Yep.
• 28:12
  Dillon Gilbertson: Flying around on a piano instead of his bed.
• 28:15
  Tad Eggleston: Right. That then… that then gets really more, like, 70s psychedelic. He shakes his head, I'm okay, I'm awake, and then, like…
• 28:28
  Peter Eggleston Connor: He's not.
• 28:29
  Tad Eggleston: awake on the moon with Dennis Kitchen-esque…
• 28:33
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, I don't know, man.
• 28:34
  Tad Eggleston: Monsters.
• 28:38
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, that's definitely bizarre.
• 28:41
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Whatever is going on is bizarre.
• 28:44
  Tad Eggleston: So, to me, it's like this big… Comic Dream.
• 28:48
  Matt: comic.
• 28:49
  Tad Eggleston: cartoon dream.
• 28:53
  Tad Eggleston: That ye… that… that… that was, like, arguably some sort of dream from the beginning.
• 29:04
  Tad Eggleston: That you've fully become aware as a dream when he goes to sleep inside of whatever's going on.
• 29:11
  Matt: It's like Inception.
• 29:13
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 29:14
  Matt: A dream within a dream within a dream.
• 29:16
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 29:17
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, it's that movie,
• 29:19
  Peter Eggleston Connor: We watched that a while back.
• 29:21
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 29:26
  Peter Eggleston Connor: flight.
• 29:26
  Matt: Boss Moon Flight.
• 29:30
  Dillon Gilbertson: Flight.
• 29:32
  Tad Eggleston: I dug moonlight.
• 29:33
  Matt: I thought it was hilarious.
• 29:35
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, that's right. She doesn't like the guy that I've gone on a mission with, and she does like this guy who clearly can do some amazing things. Actually, like, she can do some amazing things.
• 29:47
  Matt: Yes.
• 29:47
  Tad Eggleston: There's some very acrobatic sex going on.
• 29:50
  Matt: Yes.
• 29:52
  Matt: And I love the panel with… where he's between her legs, and you can see her minge hanging down. That's so fucking…
• 29:58
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, yeah, that's good.
• 29:59
  Matt: That's a great, great,
• 30:01
  Peter Eggleston Connor: The other question, though, why are it…
• 30:04
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I'm gonna go a step further. How are his boots still on, if his pants aren't? Like, his pants aren't even, like…
• 30:11
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, he took them off, put them back on, I don't know.
• 30:14
  Dillon Gilbertson: Come on, read between the panels, Peter. He clearly…
• 30:17
  Tad Eggleston: Airaway paint.
• 30:18
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah.
• 30:18
  Tad Eggleston: Maybe he didn't have to take off the pants, maybe it was a…
• 30:23
  Matt: If you're worried about his boots, I think you're worried about the wrong thing.
• 30:27
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I… I don't feel like I'm not…
• 30:30
  Peter Eggleston Connor: worried… or I don't feel like I'm worried about the wrong thing.
• 30:33
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I think that's a reasonable question to ask.
• 30:41
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Like, who the hell puts their cheese back on?
• 30:44
  Peter Eggleston Connor: After taking off, take your pants off.
• 30:47
  Dillon Gilbertson: Don't kink shame, Peter.
• 30:53
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Okay, Dylan, that's fair.
• 31:05
  Matt: I like how the artist puts his name throughout.
• 31:11
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh yeah, I already…
• 31:13
  Dillon Gilbertson: Does he?
• 31:13
  Peter Eggleston Connor: methanol?
• 31:15
  Matt: On the page… What page is this? 27. Right there, we're at the bottom middle.
• 31:22
  Matt: It's like a little poster on the wall.
• 31:24
  Dillon Gilbertson: That's his name?
• 31:25
  Tad Eggleston: signature? Yeah, that's.
• 31:26
  Matt: Oops!
• 31:27
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Bloth. Oh, wow.
• 31:30
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah.
• 31:33
  Peter Eggleston Connor: He just needs…
• 31:34
  Tad Eggleston: There it is.
• 31:34
  Peter Eggleston Connor: That's a tattoo on her.
• 31:36
  Dillon Gilbertson: Oh, I see.
• 31:37
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yep.
• 31:39
  Matt: I love catching little things like that. That's great.
• 31:49
  Dillon Gilbertson: So he does.
• 31:51
  Tad Eggleston: Now I'm looking for more of them.
• 31:54
  Matt: Kind of like Todd McFarlane and the, Hiding Spiders on the covers and whatnot. Or hiding Felix the Cat.
• 32:02
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Go to space.
• 32:06
  Peter Eggleston Connor: And half Saxon space.
• 32:09
  Tad Eggleston: Well, they need to… to populate the Earth.
• 32:13
  Matt: Yeah, because their planet died. I thought it was… I thought this was a funny riff on the, Adam and Eve story.
• 32:19
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 32:19
  Peter Eggleston Connor: It is a funny riff on the Adam and Eve story.
• 32:21
  Matt: I was like, oh, I assumed it was Earth that blew up, this is great!
• 32:27
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and I love that it has that footnote, that it was, like, inspired by…
• 32:32
  Tad Eggleston: Actual findings that it's possible that one of the planets
• 32:43
  Tad Eggleston: Er, one of the… little planets in the… in the belt between Mars and Jupiter.
• 32:52
  Tad Eggleston: had exploded.
• 32:56
  Tad Eggleston: So it's just cool to see, like, the…
• 33:01
  Tad Eggleston: what's the word I'm looking for? The… inspirational kernel.
• 33:07
  Tad Eggleston: You know, this is clearly a fantasy sci-fi story, but… but what Voss gives us is, oh, I read this thing, and I went, hmm…
• 33:20
  Peter Eggleston Connor: There you go.
• 33:26
  Matt: Now I want to read The New Astronomy by J.C. Pecker, if it's even real.
• 33:32
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I'm new as Jeremy, JC Becker.
• 33:37
  Tad Eggleston: That's… that's an easy enough thing to find out.
• 33:40
  Matt: Yeah, I'm googling it right now.
• 33:42
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, okay, then I won't.
• 33:43
  Tad Eggleston: Cause you're on top of it.
• 33:45
  Matt: J… C… Decker… I mean, the name tells me it's not, but…
• 33:55
  Peter Eggleston Connor: We do, like, all the, like, black and white, imagery in this one.
• 34:03
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I should admit that I didn't… I enjoyed that they did a guide to extraterrestrials that was actual…
• 34:14
  Tad Eggleston: from other…
• 34:15
  Matt: Oh, yeah, I did see that, that was nice.
• 34:17
  Tad Eggleston: books and whatnot, but I didn't, like, read through it all.
• 34:19
  Matt: Hi.
• 34:20
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, I did.
• 34:22
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah?
• 34:23
  Peter Eggleston Connor: This is one of the few pros I actually read through.
• 34:26
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, I thought it was true.
• 34:27
  Peter Eggleston Connor: It was semi-entertaining, especially, like, because, like, the first half of them, they talk about how they reproduce.
• 34:34
  Peter Eggleston Connor: And some of them are bizarre.
• 34:37
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, I thought this was a cool one, I liked this a lot.
• 34:40
  Tad Eggleston: No, it looked really cool, I just wasn't in the mood to…
• 34:43
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:44
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I totally get it. I mean, I guess.
• 34:46
  Dillon Gilbertson: Then you're gonna hate the last story.
• 34:48
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, yeah, I think.
• 34:50
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I enjoyed the pictures, particularly for the ones that, like, I knew.
• 34:55
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, yeah.
• 34:55
  Tad Eggleston: isn't many.
• 34:57
  Tad Eggleston: I think the only book listed here that I've read is Wrinkle in Time.
• 35:04
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Is that the… it shall.
• 35:08
  Dillon Gilbertson: I think there is a show now, but it was a kid's book.
• 35:10
  Peter Eggleston Connor: X shell, the alien.
• 35:14
  Dillon Gilbertson: Oh, I thought he said it was a kid's show, and I was like, I guess there's maybe a show of Wrinkle and Time. My bad.
• 35:19
  Peter Eggleston Connor: No, no, no, no, no.
• 35:21
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Sorry, I'm just…
• 35:22
  Dillon Gilbertson: a ton.
• 35:23
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Not pronounce it… pronunciating well.
• 35:26
  Dillon Gilbertson: Like, I was describing, I was half-listening.
• 35:28
  Tad Eggleston: And then we got some.
• 35:31
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Dukes.
• 35:34
  Dillon Gilbertson: Successful.
• 35:34
  Matt: Cody…
• 35:35
  Dillon Gilbertson: Usual, just, like, good… good light.
• 35:40
  Dillon Gilbertson: A snack of a story.
• 35:43
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Was it short again?
• 35:45
  Dillon Gilbertson: Pretty short.
• 35:45
  Peter Eggleston Connor: else near. That's good.
• 35:47
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I've read it, I just, like…
• 35:50
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I read it close to the original date.
• 35:52
  Tad Eggleston: is 2.
• 35:52
  Peter Eggleston Connor: pages.
• 35:54
  Dillon Gilbertson: It's just goofballs doing serious stuff and messing it up.
• 35:59
  Peter Eggleston Connor: There you go.
• 36:00
  Tad Eggleston: I was… And I love Charles Best, so it's not surprising.
• 36:05
  Dillon Gilbertson: I need somebody to explain this one to me.
• 36:10
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Let me go re-look at it and see if I can explain it to you.
• 36:14
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, a guy's walking through the woods, doing weird stuff, and then, he grabs onto an umbrella and Princess Peaches it up.
• 36:22
  Peter Eggleston Connor: you know.
• 36:24
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Poppers with the umbrella.
• 36:26
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Then he takes a bath in, like, what looks like a…
• 36:29
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Balloon crossed with a tulip head.
• 36:34
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Flowerhead, whatever.
• 36:39
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, frankly, it's, it's, it's a lot of Dr. Seuss worlds, only, only… Less cartoony?
• 36:48
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, I forgot the part where he met the, the…
• 36:51
  Tad Eggleston: And he's just walking home and taking a bath.
• 36:54
  Peter Eggleston Connor: It's Homer's Idol.
• 37:01
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Now that…
• 37:03
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I don't… I don't even think I remember this one at all. I mean, like, I remembered it, sort of, but it was, like…
• 37:09
  Dillon Gilbertson: I mean, you just described literally the entire story. There… like, there's just… I just don't know… not a lot seems like it happened.
• 37:15
  Tad Eggleston: And I wonder if the Homer's Idol is a reference to…
• 37:21
  Dillon Gilbertson: Where's Odyssey?
• 37:23
  Tad Eggleston: Well, and particularly the Iliad is going home, and then the idol is, is,
• 37:30
  Tad Eggleston: A mixture of, of, the fact that it's being
• 37:35
  Tad Eggleston: Told shorter and… and more poetically.
• 37:39
  Tad Eggleston: And… Trying to remember exactly the meaning of the word idol when spelled that way.
• 37:48
  Tad Eggleston: Because I know what firm…
• 37:49
  Dillon Gilbertson: Like, idyllic?
• 37:50
  Tad Eggleston: King, but…
• 37:56
  Tad Eggleston: short poem or prose work, musical piece, described an idealized, peaceful, or picturesque pastoral or rural scene. So, yeah, it's… it's kind of like…
• 38:11
  Tad Eggleston: It's the return home… And I wonder if we were more versed
• 38:20
  Tad Eggleston: and Homer, if we could even… Identify, kind of…
• 38:26
  Tad Eggleston: Where some of the stuff comes from.
• 38:31
  Tad Eggleston: Like, these people, shh, here he comes, and hides.
• 38:34
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, yeah.
• 38:36
  Tad Eggleston: You know… There's something siren-esque about some of the…
• 38:46
  Tad Eggleston: And then…
• 38:46
  Dillon Gilbertson: I'm willing to accept that the story is just over my head.
• 38:54
  Matt: I don't buy that.
• 38:56
  Dillon Gilbertson: You don't think so?
• 38:57
  Matt: No, I don't think you're supposed to know exactly what's going on.
• 39:00
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no.
• 39:00
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I think…
• 39:01
  Tad Eggleston: I think you're just supposed to… I think it's taking this long and treacherous journey and making it feel pastoral.
• 39:10
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm not sure how well…
• 39:12
  Tad Eggleston: It's a mood piece.
• 39:14
  Peter Eggleston Connor: even connect to Homer's…
• 39:17
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Hell yeah.
• 39:19
  Peter Eggleston Connor: From what I remember.
• 39:20
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I don't guarantee that it does. I think that it's possible, and possible that it doesn't. I think the… the important part is it's… it's… it's…
• 39:30
  Tad Eggleston: Showing a long, semi-treacherous journey In a… in a pastoral manner.
• 39:37
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Sure.
• 39:38
  Peter Eggleston Connor: My gosh, huh?
• 39:49
  Tad Eggleston: And what I actually wonder about the most is these last two panels.
• 39:54
  Dillon Gilbertson: Like, did they disappear, did they fall, or did they fly away?
• 39:58
  Tad Eggleston: You just zoom in, and you're higher on the towers, and you're below it.
• 40:01
  Matt: I honestly felt like they flew away, but…
• 40:04
  Matt: Yeah. After looking at it again, maybe not.
• 40:07
  Tad Eggleston: I have no idea.
• 40:08
  Matt: Yeah.
• 40:10
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Hard to tell.
• 40:12
  Matt: Did he untether it, and… Adam.
• 40:17
  Tad Eggleston: What I do know is I loved this story. I don't know what it means, but I loved this story.
• 40:25
  Tad Eggleston: I think I read it, like, 2 or 3 times while I was reading it. Just kept going…
• 40:30
  Tad Eggleston: Forward and backward, and just… Because it's peaceful.
• 40:40
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Sure.
• 40:41
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Excellent.
• 40:43
  Tad Eggleston: So did anybody read about the Virgin comic?
• 40:46
  Dillon Gilbertson: I did, yeah.
• 40:47
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I did read that.
• 40:48
  Tad Eggleston: Anything cool about the Virgin comic that we need to know?
• 40:50
  Dillon Gilbertson: You can sort of summarize, so this little thing is a biome that grows organically on comets, and just feeds off of the water that's on the comets.
• 41:04
  Dillon Gilbertson: And then, like, it's filled with biodiverse life. Like, there's a whole ecosystem inside this little bubble.
• 41:10
  Dillon Gilbertson: But any… anytime anything about its environment is disturbed, like, it closes up.
• 41:18
  Dillon Gilbertson: Or, like, goes away somehow? And so, like, scientists who are… scientists want it because it's got some great non-freezable liquid inside of it that they can use for lubricants in space machinery.
• 41:33
  Dillon Gilbertson: But they can't access it, because every time they get close to it, it shuts itself away, and so you can't get to it, and so scientists are just, like, observing it and trying to learn about it.
• 41:45
  Dillon Gilbertson: In this little hole here.
• 41:48
  Dillon Gilbertson: always points towards the sun, or towards the nearest source of light, so that I can get nourishment.
• 41:55
  Peter Eggleston Connor: My understanding of that little hole was that it magnifies the light that's coming in, right?
• 42:02
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 42:04
  Peter Eggleston Connor: To create something like sunlight.
• 42:06
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah.
• 42:07
  Peter Eggleston Connor: It should be sunlight, but it's…
• 42:10
  Dillon Gilbertson: Just the nearest source of light to magnify to, you know…
• 42:15
  Dillon Gilbertson: Give itself the same nourishment that all things need from the sun, I guess.
• 42:19
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I do kind of wonder if it's, like, actually the nearest, or, like, if it makes more sense as the nearest, or just the one that's most…
• 42:27
  Dillon Gilbertson: the best, the best and brightest one, the same way… the same way actual plants do, like, the plants grow towards the sun.
• 42:34
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Right.
• 42:37
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah.
• 42:38
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Essentially, you know, the most, providing the most, energy.
• 42:50
  Peter Eggleston Connor: More shelter.
• 42:52
  Tad Eggleston: And shelter…
• 42:54
  Tad Eggleston: Once again, reminds me that I need to go read the better translation in 1996, because I really enjoy Shelter.
• 43:02
  Matt: Did any of you guys watch Orange is the New Black?
• 43:05
  Tad Eggleston: I haven't.
• 43:07
  Matt: I'm finishing it now, I'm in… at the end of chapter, or excuse me, end of… close to the end of Season 6, and this just reminded me of it, the first, you know, couple pages here.
• 43:20
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, this is, it's becoming a… a… First, a question of whether
• 43:28
  Tad Eggleston: Communism will work in a closed environment, but then we also see that they… they are essentially… removing…
• 43:42
  Tad Eggleston: certain reading materials. Yes. So… so… it becomes…
• 43:49
  Tad Eggleston: you know, it's very quickly a plot thickens type thing, because they're actually, like, going, oh, this is nice, I was able to have these nice things, and I'm enjoying my life here, isn't it a little weird?
• 44:03
  Tad Eggleston: But then it's like, why are you taking these books? And by the way, these books haven't been returned yet, and…
• 44:11
  Tad Eggleston: I don't…
• 44:11
  Matt: And I don't think we're ever gonna see them again.
• 44:14
  Tad Eggleston: Right, did, did.
• 44:16
  Matt: Because the other guards are late returning them.
• 44:19
  Tad Eggleston: Right…
• 44:21
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah.
• 44:28
  Tad Eggleston: I'm trying to… Is it clear what the…
• 44:34
  Tad Eggleston: I don't seem to have a,
• 44:38
  Tad Eggleston: Do I have a zoom-in function on this reader?
• 44:44
  Tad Eggleston: I think it does…
• 44:54
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, go back to the main… the page it was on.
• 45:08
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Musagi crossed Power Rangers. Whoa.
• 45:15
  Matt: I like how Saga's your, brian Kev on cover.
• 45:21
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I think it might be all that's in that folder right now.
• 45:25
  Matt: Oh, okay.
• 45:38
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I was gonna say, you have it fit to… fit to page, so I was wondering if maybe if you turned it off, it would fit to page, if you'd have more options.
• 45:46
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, I'm… I'm working on it right now. I gotta find the issue again.
• 45:51
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, there you have it.
• 46:00
  Peter Eggleston Connor: There you have it.
• 46:03
  Peter Eggleston Connor: And now we'll do the one-man duck show.
• 46:06
  Peter Eggleston Connor: There was for two dogs.
• 46:08
  Tad Eggleston: Sorry…
• 46:10
  Peter Eggleston Connor: One was a pineapple, the other was a scuba diver.
• 46:17
  Peter Eggleston Connor: So, Matt, tell me about this video game that you were playing before we started, before we started.
• 46:22
  Matt: Well.
• 46:22
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Recording.
• 46:23
  Matt: I…
• 46:25
  Matt: I happened across an article, by chance, that said, Graveyard Keeper is going to be free on Xbox. So I was like, I'll try a free game. And so, it's like, it's like.
• 46:36
  Dillon Gilbertson: Graveyard Keeper?
• 46:38
  Matt: Yeah, she said.
• 46:38
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
• 46:39
  Matt: Pardon Valley, but, you know, with a different set of…
• 46:43
  Matt: different setting, and I've just completely fallen in love with this game.
• 46:48
  Dillon Gilbertson: I started playing it a couple days ago, it's pretty good.
• 46:50
  Matt: Same! Yeah, what do you play on, Xbox?
• 46:52
  Dillon Gilbertson: On PlayStation.
• 46:53
  Matt: Oh, okay. Whatever.
• 46:55
  Peter Eggleston Connor: free on PlayStation as well? Maybe I'll go pick it up.
• 46:57
  Dillon Gilbertson: Well, it was free for, I think, a weekend, I'm not sure it's free anymore.
• 47:01
  Matt: Yeah, that's why I picked it. And now… and I'm like, that's a brilliant strategy, because I will probably buy the downloadable content now.
• 47:07
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, they've got… they've got a bunch of, like, they've got, like, 5 themed DLCs, and they're all themed after shows, like Breaking Bad and…
• 47:14
  Matt: Yes.
• 47:14
  Dillon Gilbertson: Game of Thrones and stuff like that.
• 47:16
  Matt: And I believe there's a new game coming out.
• 47:20
  Matt: Like, and they're just doing this to promote the Graveyard Keeper 2 or something.
• 47:25
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Gotcha.
• 47:26
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I'll have to go check it out and see what they're asking for.
• 47:29
  Matt: Yeah, it's a lot of fun. You know, you have to, like, it's… there's crafting involved, and you have to fulfill quests for one person to, you know, meet the needs of someone else, and, you know…
• 47:40
  Matt: Just a little adventure.
• 47:41
  Dillon Gilbertson: Good.
• 47:42
  Matt: game. I like it, it's a lot of fun. How far along are you?
• 47:45
  Matt: Dylan.
• 47:46
  Dillon Gilbertson: Not very far, I just got… I just cleared the first pile of rubble inside my church.
• 47:50
  Matt: Oh, wow, okay.
• 47:52
  Dillon Gilbertson: Till pretty early.
• 47:53
  Matt: I bet.
• 47:54
  Dillon Gilbertson: I play, like, half an hour at a time, and I haven't… I've only played a few times.
• 47:57
  Matt: Yeah, I stayed up till 1 o'clock in the morning last night playing.
• 48:01
  Dillon Gilbertson: How do we… how do we get sidetracked here? What are we… what are we doing?
• 48:03
  Matt: Peter asked me.
• 48:04
  Tad Eggleston: waiting for me to get the thing back up.
• 48:07
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I was trying to make sure we didn't have this long 5-minute video.
• 48:09
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, yeah. Gosh, I stepped away for a minute when I came back.
• 48:13
  Tad Eggleston: I am zooming in… oh, okay. See, I am zooming in on my iPad.
• 48:20
  Tad Eggleston: And… What we do have… is Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, John Reed.
• 48:34
  Tad Eggleston: So yeah, the… the… there's some…
• 48:38
  Tad Eggleston: Some indication of the specific books being… Pulled, and they're definitely…
• 48:45
  Tad Eggleston: Ones that might be… might explain what's going on.
• 48:50
  Tad Eggleston: So it's gonna be interesting to see… where that… goes.
• 49:01
  Tad Eggleston: Though it's also weird that the people in charge would…
• 49:05
  Tad Eggleston: Supply them with a library with all of these books.
• 49:09
  Matt: Right, that they wanted to go on.
• 49:10
  Tad Eggleston: remove some.
• 49:11
  Matt: Right.
• 49:13
  Tad Eggleston: So, like, yes, the plot has thickened.
• 49:16
  Tad Eggleston: I… I like this story.
• 49:19
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, there's also this question of, is it the people in charge, or is it, like…
• 49:23
  Matt: Right.
• 49:24
  Tad Eggleston: That's true, too.
• 49:25
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Military takeover.
• 49:26
  Matt: Yep, yep, I… yep.
• 49:29
  Tad Eggleston: Yep.
• 49:37
  Tad Eggleston: So, yeah.
• 49:39
  Tad Eggleston: No, the, the, the shelter's probably my favorite ongoing right now.
• 49:44
  Peter Eggleston Connor: It's pretty good.
• 49:47
  Tad Eggleston: Now, Elric, you guys read about the sorts of stuff, I just.
• 49:51
  Matt: enjoyed.
• 49:51
  Tad Eggleston: The swords and stuff.
• 49:52
  Matt: Yes, same.
• 49:53
  Dillon Gilbertson: I mean, the swords and stuff were awesome. It's really great art. I love the…
• 49:57
  Dillon Gilbertson: There are, and this was…
• 49:58
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yard is good.
• 50:00
  Peter Eggleston Connor: All the words around the art.
• 50:03
  Dillon Gilbertson: We're… we're bad.
• 50:06
  Tad Eggleston: Well, I've never been a huge Michael Moorcock fan.
• 50:10
  Tad Eggleston: and… I think… And I haven't done as much research into him.
• 50:16
  Tad Eggleston: As some of the others that are big with the same groups of people.
• 50:22
  Tad Eggleston: I think that, like, Moorcock appeals to… in… in kind of the way… Lovecraft and…
• 50:31
  Tad Eggleston: Tolkien appeal to certain people, in that he built fantastic worlds.
• 50:38
  Matt: But, but he's like, he's like the.
• 50:41
  Tad Eggleston: Didn't necessarily write all that well.
• 50:45
  Matt: He's like the Charles Dickens of fantasy. He gets paid by the word.
• 50:49
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, did he write that? His books are that long?
• 50:52
  Matt: No, I just… the way this feels. I'm just saying. Okay.
• 50:56
  Tad Eggleston: I didn't know with his, his actual prose.
• 51:02
  Tad Eggleston: But, but, like…
• 51:04
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Every time…
• 51:04
  Tad Eggleston: I've tried to read any Moorcock.
• 51:07
  Tad Eggleston: I've just really quickly gotten bogged down in, like, this writing's not that… Good.
• 51:15
  Dillon Gilbertson: Some of these pants… Some of these panel borders and stuff made me think this was Drie A.
• 51:20
  Matt: Yeah?
• 51:21
  Dillon Gilbertson: It's like the way, it's the style of it in general.
• 51:24
  Matt: Have any of you tried to read The Silmarillion by Tolkien?
• 51:27
  Dillon Gilbertson: No.
• 51:29
  Matt: I read… I read The Hobbit, loved it, then I read Lord of the Rings and loved it, and then I was like, oh, let's check out the Silarillion. I'm like, this is a made-up history book about this fantasy world.
• 51:37
  Dillon Gilbertson: Silmarillion's only for the hardest of.
• 51:39
  Matt: Hard to read!
• 51:40
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, they're…
• 51:42
  Matt: hard.
• 51:43
  Peter Eggleston Connor: what I heard, yeah.
• 51:44
  Tad Eggleston: I actually find the Lord of the Rings hard to read. I love The Hobbit.
• 51:50
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I believe it or not.
• 51:52
  Tad Eggleston: I feel like he gets… Too deep in… in…
• 51:59
  Tad Eggleston: both… and, like, in some ways, I'll, like, compare it to George Lucas with the prequel trilogy. He got so caught up in building the worlds and whatnot, he forgot that, like, you also need to…
• 52:12
  Tad Eggleston: Write dialogue and direct actors.
• 52:18
  Tad Eggleston: Cause to me, the best storytelling of all Tolkien, and this is acknowledging that I haven't managed to finish
• 52:27
  Tad Eggleston: All of it.
• 52:29
  Matt: You know, when I read it, I stopped.
• 52:32
  Tad Eggleston: is The Hobbit. The Hobbit I can read over and over and over again.
• 52:35
  Matt: Yeah.
• 52:36
  Tad Eggleston: Like, it has the right amount of depth to let you know the world, while keeping front and center the characters, the story, the action, the dialogue.
• 52:49
  Tad Eggleston: you know… I even loved the songs.
• 52:56
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yup.
• 52:57
  Tad Eggleston: And, like… and The Lord of the Rings, and…
• 53:01
  Tad Eggleston: and I've heard even more in anything else, it just becomes…
• 53:07
  Peter Eggleston Connor: What I was gonna say about this comic, is that it's… it's got a lot of words just in general, but then I'm, like, it's like… but, like, all the imagery is super, like, fantastic, and then you get to this.
• 53:20
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, yeah.
• 53:20
  Peter Eggleston Connor: age.
• 53:21
  Peter Eggleston Connor: And I'm kind of pissed at this last page, because it's like, you stop having any imagery whatsoever, except for, like, him just holding his sword above his head or whatever.
• 53:33
  Peter Eggleston Connor: And… you just have all texts explaining what happens next, it's like…
• 53:39
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Why the fuck did you even tell me this? Why didn't you just, like, do it to be continued or end on the previous page?
• 53:45
  Dillon Gilbertson: Well, the good news is, right after this page, you're treated to some Mobius.
• 53:50
  Peter Eggleston Connor: That is… that is true.
• 53:51
  Matt: Mobius story.
• 53:52
  Dillon Gilbertson: But I.
• 53:53
  Matt: me off!
• 53:55
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Mobius Art?
• 53:56
  Tad Eggleston: what is… Beautiful.
• 53:57
  Matt: Oh, it's gorgeous!
• 53:58
  Dillon Gilbertson: Oh, it's fine.
• 53:59
  Matt: I loved it, but they left him on such a cliffhanger, I'm like, what the hell happens to him?
• 54:03
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah, no, I mean, like, if it weren't for Shelter, this would be my favorite ongoing.
• 54:08
  Matt: Yeah.
• 54:09
  Matt: Yeah, I mean, this had me. I was like, oh my god!
• 54:13
  Matt: BAM! And then continued, and I'm like, you gotta be kidding me. Oh.
• 54:18
  Matt: I can't just remember.
• 54:18
  Peter Eggleston Connor: That's how airtight garage always is. It's always…
• 54:22
  Tad Eggleston: No, we are definitely gonna have to eventually just read airtight Garage as airtight Garage. It needs to happen.
• 54:28
  Tad Eggleston: Absolutely.
• 54:29
  Matt: winning.
• 54:30
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't… I don't know why they're, like, doing this in such small segments.
• 54:35
  Dillon Gilbertson: as a parent.
• 54:35
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Generally, from everything that you guys are telling me, like.
• 54:40
  Peter Eggleston Connor: It makes more sense when it's all together, but in all these small…
• 54:44
  Tad Eggleston: I bet it does.
• 54:45
  Tad Eggleston: Because I haven't read it that way. I think they're doing it this way because this is… I think we're actually getting it in real time.
• 54:55
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I think that's… I think you're right.
• 54:57
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I think that is why we're getting it in, like.
• 55:00
  Dillon Gilbertson: That is.
• 55:00
  Peter Eggleston Connor: It's just… it's… yeah. Anyhow.
• 55:04
  Matt: There were so many good stories in this.
• 55:07
  Peter Eggleston Connor: There are a lot of good stories in those.
• 55:10
  Dillon Gilbertson: Cheers.
• 55:11
  Tad Eggleston: was kinda cool.
• 55:12
  Matt: I loved Jim, I thought it was great.
• 55:14
  Dillon Gilbertson: I loved Jim until it got…
• 55:17
  Dillon Gilbertson: Until they got to the jungle and started…
• 55:20
  Matt: It just starts killing everything.
• 55:21
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
• 55:23
  Matt: Yeah, well, it also…
• 55:26
  Dillon Gilbertson: It got kind of racist pretty.
• 55:26
  Matt: Yeah, got a little racist there.
• 55:29
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yup.
• 55:31
  Matt: Yeah.
• 55:32
  Dillon Gilbertson: I don't know if I'm supposed
• 55:33
  Dillon Gilbertson: Jim, or be afraid of Jim, or despise Jim.
• 55:36
  Matt: I was like, did Will Eiser, consult on this?
• 55:40
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I kinda… I kinda worried that you were supposed to like him at the time, and then…
• 55:45
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Well, no, then he does that.
• 55:49
  Dillon Gilbertson: And then he kills the adventurer guy, and he's like, I'm gonna go… like, this panel on the bottom right on that page we were just on, like, you can't tell me we're supposed to root for that guy.
• 55:58
  Matt: Oh, no, you're not.
• 55:59
  Peter Eggleston Connor: No. He's a fuckin' Nimrod.
• 56:02
  Matt: he's clearly a sociopath, or a psychopath, or something. He's on a… he's on a path! Okay, that's all I know!
• 56:09
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, yeah.
• 56:15
  Dillon Gilbertson: I like this, like, the title, the first panel in the title.
• 56:19
  Dillon Gilbertson: Had me so hard. Had me so good. Had me so hard. Had me had me so good.
• 56:24
  Matt: Why they're delicious.
• 56:25
  Dillon Gilbertson: Listen!
• 56:26
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Dylan, you know…
• 56:28
  Dillon Gilbertson: Adventures…
• 56:28
  Peter Eggleston Connor: shame, but…
• 56:30
  Dillon Gilbertson: Just like the.
• 56:31
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Adventures of…
• 56:32
  Dillon Gilbertson: Thank you.
• 56:32
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I wanna know.
• 56:33
  Dillon Gilbertson: Like, I love the idea of, like.
• 56:37
  Dillon Gilbertson: Like, if you expanded that a little bit, and you're just like, the marvelous, crazy adventures of Jim. Like, this… just an average, normal dude, and you're trying to make it, like, this extravagant…
• 56:48
  Dillon Gilbertson: adventurous… boisterous thing, like…
• 56:53
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, it starts out interesting, and then, like…
• 56:57
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't know. Jim turns out to be a complete…
• 57:00
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah. I thought… the first panel in the title made me think it was gonna be just about his normal, everyday life, but told in a really…
• 57:10
  Dillon Gilbertson: extra away.
• 57:11
  Matt: Yeah.
• 57:12
  Peter Eggleston Connor: You know, like Archie.
• 57:13
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, like, hard to, like, he was gonna try and make his office job seem like the craziest, most exciting thing in the world, even though nothing happens.
• 57:20
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Nope.
• 57:22
  Matt: Yeah.
• 57:23
  Peter Eggleston Connor: And then he misses the dinosaur bones, too, which…
• 57:27
  Matt: Yes.
• 57:28
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I would say…
• 57:30
  Dillon Gilbertson: good.
• 57:30
  Peter Eggleston Connor: God? But then I flip it, and it's like…
• 57:34
  Peter Eggleston Connor: If he's gonna keep looking for dinosaur bones, and this is how he behaves…
• 57:38
  Matt: He's gonna miss him.
• 57:39
  Peter Eggleston Connor: No…
• 57:40
  Matt: I don't think.
• 57:40
  Dillon Gilbertson: I mean, the bad news is he's probably gonna try and get someone else to go somewhere else to look for dinosaur bones, and then kill them, too.
• 57:48
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Hopefully.
• 57:52
  Dillon Gilbertson: Anyway, that was Jim.
• 57:54
  Dillon Gilbertson: Old Jim.
• 57:55
  Matt: Yeah, I like Jim. Jim was good.
• 57:58
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I think it's.
• 57:59
  Tad Eggleston: also, like…
• 58:02
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Fairly rare.
• 58:02
  Tad Eggleston: The element of, like, making fun of the… The Rich Guy Adventurer.
• 58:09
  Dillon Gilbertson: Hmm.
• 58:09
  Peter Eggleston Connor: There is definitely that.
• 58:11
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, yeah.
• 58:12
  Tad Eggleston: Particularly in the end, now that I'm… now that I'm rich.
• 58:18
  Tad Eggleston: I, I can… I can do this.
• 58:21
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Organize a really big expedition, and I'll find it.
• 58:25
  Peter Eggleston Connor: And destroyed.
• 58:26
  Tad Eggleston: all of this, just to find that thing.
• 58:28
  Peter Eggleston Connor: There we go.
• 58:29
  Dillon Gilbertson: Get wrecked, Jim.
• 58:31
  Tad Eggleston: So, I mean, I think… I think Jim is… is allegory for, like.
• 58:38
  Tad Eggleston: so much of white civilization that views all of this other stuff just as, like.
• 58:46
  Tad Eggleston: Scenery in their adventure movies.
• 58:50
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Right.
• 58:52
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, that chicks out.
• 58:53
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, he's even behaving like a kid on the playground. Take that, and that! Pow!
• 58:59
  Dillon Gilbertson: Hmm…
• 59:05
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Nope.
• 59:07
  Dillon Gilbertson: Just a man-child.
• 59:09
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 59:10
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Like, he obviously had a gun in his boot.
• 59:14
  Dillon Gilbertson: He justifies his terrible actions with made-up scenarios.
• 59:18
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 59:18
  Peter Eggleston Connor: That guy doesn't even have boots, does he?
• 59:21
  Dillon Gilbertson: I don't, I don't think so.
• 59:22
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Nope. If you look down in this, like, lower left corner, like.
• 59:27
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
• 59:28
  Peter Eggleston Connor: There does not appear to be any sort of footwear.
• 59:34
  Tad Eggleston: So yeah, no, I think it's… It's… it's definitely commentary on… like…
• 59:42
  Tad Eggleston: the, the Don Jr. Eric Trump going on safari.
• 59:47
  Tad Eggleston: class.
• 59:49
  Peter Eggleston Connor: There you go.
• 59:52
  Peter Eggleston Connor: What's up.
• 59:53
  Matt: Chad.
• 59:53
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Some other people at the time, because it was 1979, right?
• 59:57
  Tad Eggleston: Well, yeah.
• 59:57
  Matt: Do you remember when we read Grim Jack?
• 1:00:00
  Tad Eggleston: Yes.
• 1:00:01
  Matt: Do you remember the show they used to watch on TV?
• 1:00:04
  Matt: This reminds me of that show, and I can't remember the name of the character.
• 1:00:07
  Tad Eggleston: I can't either. I vaguely remember what you're talking about.
• 1:00:10
  Matt: Ugh.
• 1:00:12
  Matt: Trying to find it right now, I'm looking.
• 1:00:14
  Matt: But it had that feel to it, and I was hoping it was gonna be like that.
• 1:00:22
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yep, yep.
• 1:00:27
  Matt: Oh, wow.
• 1:00:38
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Go back.
• 1:00:38
  Tad Eggleston: To some beautiful Howard Chaikin art.
• 1:00:42
  Matt: Gorgeous.
• 1:00:43
  Tad Eggleston: with… with.
• 1:00:45
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Bunch of words around it.
• 1:00:47
  Tad Eggleston: Words that I… I didn't read.
• 1:00:49
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I didn't read them either.
• 1:00:51
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Jude, I'm Dylan!
• 1:00:53
  Dillon Gilbertson: Unfortunately not.
• 1:00:54
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, that's fine.
• 1:00:55
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, I have read Star Is My Destination.
• 1:00:59
  Tad Eggleston: Because it's available in graphic novel, but it's been a while, and…
• 1:01:03
  Tad Eggleston: And it's… it's the… it's the art that's amazing.
• 1:01:08
  Peter Eggleston Connor: The yard is really nice.
• 1:01:11
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I couldn't bring myself… I even tried, like, earlier today…
• 1:01:16
  Peter Eggleston Connor: to read it, and I just couldn't bring myself to do it. I was like, that's why I didn't read this. It's all just…
• 1:01:22
  Matt: You know, I'm… can we… can you take a quick look at Paige?
• 1:01:27
  Matt: Ugh, doesn't say.
• 1:01:28
  Matt: That one right there.
• 1:01:32
  Dillon Gilbertson: How tiny his butt is?
• 1:01:33
  Matt: No!
• 1:01:35
  Matt: It's pixelated, and they didn't have Photoshop back then. How did he paint this?
• 1:01:41
  Peter Eggleston Connor: That's… yep.
• 1:01:43
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah.
• 1:01:43
  Matt: How do you paint pixelization and make it look like something that you can't do yet?
• 1:01:48
  Dillon Gilbertson: I mean, if you paint something and you scan it in, and then you stretch it, you don't need Photoshop.
• 1:01:52
  Matt: There was no scanners! There was no Photoshop!
• 1:01:57
  Tad Eggleston: Well, that's a question for Howard the next.
• 1:01:59
  Matt: Yeah, and I… half of me wants to just shoot him a message on Facebook and be like.
• 1:02:05
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Absolutely.
• 1:02:06
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Hold on, hold on.
• 1:02:07
  Tad Eggleston: He responds to those sometimes.
• 1:02:10
  Dillon Gilbertson: No scanners? You couldn't scan anything in the 79?
• 1:02:14
  Matt: No!
• 1:02:15
  Dillon Gilbertson: I guess, yeah.
• 1:02:17
  Matt: it wasn't until 1984, when the Macintosh popularized stuff, that they started that. That's what started that trend. I mean, this is 6 years, 5, whatever.
• 1:02:27
  Matt: Before that.
• 1:02:29
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Well, I mean, in 3 years they have Blade Runner, where they have, like, the pixelated images that they do on the screen.
• 1:02:37
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't mean, like, pixelated images like Blade Runner itself, but, like, there's… I remember that there's,
• 1:02:45
  Peter Eggleston Connor: time where, in Blade Runner, they're… they're looking at some video footage, and it's all very… or some photograph footage, and it's all very pixelated.
• 1:02:55
  Peter Eggleston Connor: So… I don't know, it wasn't that far off… from… That…
• 1:03:03
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, like, I get that it's not a scan, so it's, like, the question of, like, what did they do?
• 1:03:10
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Did they take a… well… They could have taken a picture or something.
• 1:03:17
  Matt: I think he painted it this way.
• 1:03:20
  Peter Eggleston Connor: You might be right.
• 1:03:22
  Matt: And, like, that's insane.
• 1:03:24
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, he also might have painted it, like, on a computer.
• 1:03:30
  Tad Eggleston: Well, except that, again, we're talking 1979.
• 1:03:34
  Tad Eggleston: I don't know what kind of computer art programs there were.
• 1:03:37
  Matt: None.
• 1:03:40
  Peter Eggleston Connor: True.
• 1:03:43
  Peter Eggleston Connor: That is true.
• 1:03:48
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Let's go see when MS Paint was made.
• 1:03:58
  Tad Eggleston: I do like the Santa Claus.
• 1:04:00
  Peter Eggleston Connor: 1985, so yeah, no, that doesn't really work.
• 1:04:11
  Peter Eggleston Connor: That's how it is on your issue, too, Matt.
• 1:04:14
  Matt: That's how it is in the hard copy.
• 1:04:17
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Wow.
• 1:04:18
  Matt: That's why it really… jumped out at me. I was like, damn!
• 1:04:25
  Peter Eggleston Connor: That's something weird.
• 1:04:45
  Matt: Like, I know.
• 1:04:46
  Tad Eggleston: this, because, like, it's not as simple as…
• 1:04:52
  Tad Eggleston: As pros with pictures, you know, they, they…
• 1:04:57
  Tad Eggleston: Rearrange the prose and the pictures in very deliberate ways.
• 1:05:04
  Peter Eggleston Connor: The first pivotal image ever was made in 1957.
• 1:05:10
  Peter Eggleston Connor: First digital photo came in 1957, when Russell Kirsch made it… I don't know, like, what is this?
• 1:05:17
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Can I be sure this is right?
• 1:05:25
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean… Maybe Russell Kirsch.
• 1:05:31
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Go look at it.
• 1:05:39
  Dillon Gilbertson: First color scheme.
• 1:05:51
  Dillon Gilbertson: This is a really cool image, though. It's very noir-looking.
• 1:05:55
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, yeah, no, that doesn't.
• 1:05:57
  Matt: This, this was one of my runners-up for favorite panel.
• 1:05:59
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, it's really good.
• 1:06:01
  Matt: Yep.
• 1:06:14
  Tad Eggleston: So…
• 1:06:15
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yup.
• 1:06:16
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Hirsch in 1955, or… it looks like Kershen1965 created the first, digital image… Or sorry, 1957, not 65.
• 1:06:33
  Dillon Gilbertson: The first digital scanner.
• 1:06:36
  Peter Eggleston Connor: first digital image, I mean.
• 1:06:37
  Matt: Do they have a picture of it?
• 1:06:38
  Peter Eggleston Connor: photo.
• 1:06:40
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I mean, here, I mean…
• 1:06:42
  Dillon Gilbertson: The first digital image, it's like, it's a dick or something.
• 1:06:46
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Acceptance.
• 1:06:47
  Dillon Gilbertson: Andrew Hill.
• 1:06:48
  Peter Eggleston Connor: naturally.
• 1:06:50
  Peter Eggleston Connor: That would be funny, though.
• 1:06:53
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Put it in chat.
• 1:06:56
  Dillon Gilbertson: Russell Kirsch.
• 1:06:58
  Peter Eggleston Connor: So…
• 1:06:59
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, Russell Kirsch. And if you look at his page and scroll down, you'll see Russell Kirsch create a first digital scanned image in 1957.
• 1:07:08
  Peter Eggleston Connor: With the image.
• 1:07:08
  Matt: It's a bait.
• 1:07:09
  Dillon Gilbertson: maybe…
• 1:07:10
  Peter Eggleston Connor: That's what I said.
• 1:07:16
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah, surely… Surely by 1979.
• 1:07:20
  Matt: series?
• 1:07:22
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, so that would have been 22 years left after that.
• 1:07:27
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't know how… how we went about doing it, I'm just saying, like…
• 1:07:35
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Seems feasible to me.
• 1:07:37
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I just don't know.
• 1:07:43
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Because, like, it seems less feasible to me that he painted like that, though I guess maybe he could have done that based off of, like, images he'd seen like this.
• 1:07:52
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Maybe?
• 1:07:54
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't know.
• 1:07:56
  Matt: Totally.
• 1:08:03
  Dillon Gilbertson: Is this the last story?
• 1:08:05
  Tad Eggleston: It is. It is.
• 1:08:06
  Dillon Gilbertson: remember, I couldn't remember anything after this one.
• 1:08:13
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, for that matter, Nintendo Entertainment System came out in 1983, so that would have been 4 years later.
• 1:08:22
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Nevermind.
• 1:08:23
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Thought there was Atari first, right?
• 1:08:30
  Dillon Gilbertson: Weird side quest we're going down.
• 1:08:32
  Peter Eggleston Connor: It is, but it's… I don't know, it's interesting to me for some reason. Yeah, Target came out in 1972.
• 1:08:40
  Dillon Gilbertson: Well, I think… I think, distinctly, there's a difference Between…
• 1:08:45
  Dillon Gilbertson: Whether the image was created digitally.
• 1:08:49
  Dillon Gilbertson: Or whether he created the image and it was scanned digitally.
• 1:08:54
  Dillon Gilbertson: Because the first scanner was in, like, the late 50s.
• 1:08:59
  Dillon Gilbertson: Right?
• 1:09:01
  Peter Eggleston Connor: The first scanner.
• 1:09:03
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, the first digital image was 1957, right?
• 1:09:09
  Dillon Gilbertson: But he scanned that in, right?
• 1:09:12
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't know if he scanned it in or not, it just… that's the first.
• 1:09:15
  Dillon Gilbertson: I don't know.
• 1:09:17
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I guess he scanned it. Let me… let me go over you the page.
• 1:09:21
  Peter Eggleston Connor: He invented LED technology crucial for the blah blah blah.
• 1:09:28
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Due to its…
• 1:09:33
  Peter Eggleston Connor: It's important in development of digital photography.
• 1:09:38
  Dillon Gilbertson: Okay.
• 1:09:39
  Peter Eggleston Connor: So, I don't exactly know what that means.
• 1:09:43
  Dillon Gilbertson: Sounds like Scanner.
• 1:09:45
  Dillon Gilbertson: Digital photography, take a picture of it to make it appear on a computer screen?
• 1:09:49
  Peter Eggleston Connor: It's some form of, he took a picture of it somehow and got it on a computer screen.
• 1:09:54
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
• 1:10:01
  Tad Eggleston: Let's talk favorites.
• 1:10:05
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Sure thing.
• 1:10:07
  Dillon Gilbertson: Egg-stained wine.
• 1:10:10
  Matt: Are we doing story or wrong?
• 1:10:12
  Tad Eggleston: story?
• 1:10:12
  Matt: Story?
• 1:10:15
  Dillon Gilbertson: What is his favorite story?
• 1:10:17
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, that same line.
• 1:10:18
  Tad Eggleston: I was starting with ongoing.
• 1:10:19
  Peter Eggleston Connor: February.
• 1:10:20
  Tad Eggleston: But we can start with story.
• 1:10:25
  Dillon Gilbertson: I don't know, were there any stand… what are the standalone stories in this one?
• 1:10:29
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh.
• 1:10:29
  Tad Eggleston: stained wine.
• 1:10:30
  Peter Eggleston Connor: And wine was one of them, there was another.
• 1:10:34
  Peter Eggleston Connor: The, the, the, space one.
• 1:10:37
  Dillon Gilbertson: The space…
• 1:10:38
  Tad Eggleston: flight.
• 1:10:39
  Peter Eggleston Connor: moon fly.
• 1:10:40
  Dillon Gilbertson: like, huh?
• 1:10:41
  Tad Eggleston: Homer's Idol.
• 1:10:43
  Matt: Huh?
• 1:10:44
  Peter Eggleston Connor: North Idol.
• 1:10:47
  Dillon Gilbertson: I think I gotta go with egg state and wine, then.
• 1:10:52
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I'm gonna go with Moonflood.
• 1:10:56
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I know I gave… gave discs to the guy wearing his boots.
• 1:11:00
  Peter Eggleston Connor: With the pants off, but…
• 1:11:02
  Tad Eggleston: You're making up for it.
• 1:11:04
  Peter Eggleston Connor: But I did like the story.
• 1:11:06
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I thought it was very amusing, and it's an extra touch that they had the whole… .
• 1:11:14
  Tad Eggleston: I'm going with Homer's Idol.
• 1:11:16
  Peter Eggleston Connor: There you go.
• 1:11:18
  Matt: I'm gonna break the mold here and go with Adventures of Jim.
• 1:11:22
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Oh, man.
• 1:11:24
  Peter Eggleston Connor: That was also another…
• 1:11:27
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, it speaks to the quality of this issue that we picked four different stories, and they're all very defensible.
• 1:11:38
  Peter Eggleston Connor: That's fair.
• 1:11:40
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I was gonna say, it speaks to the quality of this issue, and either that, you know, it was all really good, or it all completely sucked.
• 1:11:48
  Tad Eggleston: So, ongoing.
• 1:11:55
  Matt: tight garage.
• 1:11:58
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I am between Rolf and.
• 1:12:01
  Matt: Yeah, I liked Rolf 2, that's the problem.
• 1:12:03
  Dillon Gilbertson: I'm going with Rolf.
• 1:12:05
  Peter Eggleston Connor: It's either Rolf, or it's… what was the… the… One where they're…
• 1:12:12
  Peter Eggleston Connor: We were talking about how, like, could be communistic.
• 1:12:17
  Tad Eggleston: Shelter.
• 1:12:19
  Peter Eggleston Connor: It's either Rolf or Shelter.
• 1:12:23
  Tad Eggleston: I picked Shelter, Dylan picked Rolf, so which one of us do you like more?
• 1:12:29
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I like you both equally.
• 1:12:31
  Dillon Gilbertson: Whoa.
• 1:12:33
  Dillon Gilbertson: Like, me as much as you like your brother? Dang. What?
• 1:12:38
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Can I… can I just choose both? We… we love that cheat all the time.
• 1:12:42
  Tad Eggleston: Sure.
• 1:12:47
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Choosing Rolf and Shelter.
• 1:12:52
  Dillon Gilbertson: I almost shouldn't say.
• 1:12:53
  Tad Eggleston: the shelter.
• 1:12:57
  Tad Eggleston: Alright.
• 1:12:58
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Everything I've chosen has had, like.
• 1:13:01
  Peter Eggleston Connor: The incessant amount of boobs in it.
• 1:13:05
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Sometimes.
• 1:13:07
  Tad Eggleston: So do we have… I mean, speaking of boobs, is this gonna be your favorite panel, Peter?
• 1:13:13
  Peter Eggleston Connor: No.
• 1:13:14
  Tad Eggleston: the, the.
• 1:13:14
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, I do really like that panel, but I also really like the cover.
• 1:13:18
  Matt: I appreciate the built-in flotation devices.
• 1:13:23
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yup.
• 1:13:24
  Tad Eggleston: Ever is pretty great.
• 1:13:27
  Tad Eggleston: First…
• 1:13:28
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I haven't decided.
• 1:13:28
  Tad Eggleston: Heavy metal wraparound cover, as well? No.
• 1:13:31
  Matt: No!
• 1:13:32
  Dillon Gilbertson: No way.
• 1:13:32
  Tad Eggleston: No?
• 1:13:33
  Matt: No, there was wraparound covers in the first, first year, okay.
• 1:13:39
  Matt: Remember the blue guy holding the baton thing, and it…
• 1:13:42
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 1:13:43
  Matt: Yeah.
• 1:13:44
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I don't, but I believe it.
• 1:13:48
  Tad Eggleston: I just know that we've often had front and back covers.
• 1:13:52
  Tad Eggleston: So it stood out to me.
• 1:13:55
  Matt: Yeah, favorite panel's a really hard one for me to pick in this issue.
• 1:13:58
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, it is so hard.
• 1:14:00
  Dillon Gilbertson: No, mine's the cover of the first page of Eggstained Wine.
• 1:14:05
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Nice.
• 1:14:06
  Dillon Gilbertson: show.
• 1:14:07
  Peter Eggleston Connor: It's a good one.
• 1:14:09
  Matt: I want to go with either the cover or that… noir Howard Chaikin drawing.
• 1:14:14
  Tad Eggleston: The cityscape? That's the one I'm going with.
• 1:14:16
  Matt: Yeah, cause that's awesome.
• 1:14:18
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:14:18
  Peter Eggleston Connor: That was a pretty good one.
• 1:14:20
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I… I gotta admit, I didn't look at it much, but when Ted brought it up at the beginning of the show today, the.
• 1:14:29
  Peter Eggleston Connor: contents page image was really good. I think I might go with that.
• 1:14:40
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I really…
• 1:14:42
  Tad Eggleston: That, that was outstanding.
• 1:14:44
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, the depth of it all.
• 1:14:47
  Tad Eggleston: the Glen Harrington contents.
• 1:14:53
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, but there's a lot of really good stuff here, so it's like…
• 1:14:58
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Though I know I do also have a tendency to, like, try to get my things to be from different things, unless it's just, like, an issue that I'm not, like, really enjoying anything in.
• 1:15:07
  Tad Eggleston: No, I do too.
• 1:15:08
  Tad Eggleston: I like to recognize as much of the book as possible, because if I ever get back to actually getting show notes up, that means that we have as many different pictures.
• 1:15:19
  Peter Eggleston Connor: There you go.
• 1:15:27
  Tad Eggleston: So, I, I, like, I'm, I'm going… well, I'm going with that cityscape.
• 1:15:32
  Tad Eggleston: That I think Matt just went with, too.
• 1:15:37
  Tad Eggleston: Which almost makes me want to change it, just because I…
• 1:15:41
  Tad Eggleston: Love the shape… er, er, the, the… well, just this whole page.
• 1:15:48
  Peter Eggleston Connor: The whole page is pretty good, but I gotta say, if I had to, like.
• 1:15:53
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I would still even just pick the tidal wave personally, but that's.
• 1:15:56
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah. No, no, I could also do just the tidal wave onto the piano.
• 1:16:03
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah.
• 1:16:06
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I mean, I feel like that's…
• 1:16:08
  Tad Eggleston: I'm changing it. You took mine, Matt, so I'm changing mine.
• 1:16:11
  Matt: Sorry!
• 1:16:12
  Tad Eggleston: No, no, it…
• 1:16:14
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I was gonna say, like, I can't really imagine the whole page being a t-shirt, but I could really see that title image being a t-shirt.
• 1:16:25
  Matt: And I like the… I like the…
• 1:16:27
  Tad Eggleston: Oh, I am.
• 1:16:29
  Tad Eggleston: I like the flying…
• 1:16:30
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Beautiful notes. I thought I was thinking about that as well, but…
• 1:16:39
  Peter Eggleston Connor: The front cover reminds me of, like, D&D characters, except… In more erotic scenarios, anyhow.
• 1:16:51
  Peter Eggleston Connor: There you have it.
• 1:16:57
  Tad Eggleston: I hadn't even noticed the musical notes with wings.
• 1:17:03
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I noticed it because I started looking at it more with, like, the… within the image of the tidal wave, right?
• 1:17:10
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:17:14
  Peter Eggleston Connor: So…
• 1:17:15
  Tad Eggleston: And while it works kinda cool, having, like, the…
• 1:17:18
  Tad Eggleston: the… the smoking holes on either sides of it, like, if you lifted it off the page.
• 1:17:27
  Tad Eggleston: Where you just had the tidal wave, and you didn't have an upper boundary?
• 1:17:32
  Tad Eggleston: That would also look really cool.
• 1:17:34
  Dillon Gilbertson: That would be really cool.
• 1:17:36
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, I mean…
• 1:17:40
  Peter Eggleston Connor: if you wanted to, like, make it really interesting on a t-shirt, like, you could have, like, sort of the color in the… I'm not saying…
• 1:17:49
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I'm just, like, thinking of… actually, like, if you could just get the image, like.
• 1:17:53
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Even the breaking of the box, but the box, and then the breaking of the box.
• 1:17:58
  Peter Eggleston Connor: And everything within that box.
• 1:18:00
  Peter Eggleston Connor: in a… on a t-shirt, I mean, that would be, like…
• 1:18:04
  Tad Eggleston: Right.
• 1:18:06
  Peter Eggleston Connor: My black and white would do cool, too.
• 1:18:08
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Damn.
• 1:18:11
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Anywho…
• 1:18:12
  Tad Eggleston: Beautiful stuff.
• 1:18:13
  Tad Eggleston: Beautiful stuff. So, for next month, do we want to do Metal Erlant 4, or do we want to do…
• 1:18:21
  Tad Eggleston: December of 1970?
• 1:18:24
  Matt: Do we have digitals of Metal Ehrlent?
• 1:18:27
  Tad Eggleston: We do.
• 1:18:28
  Peter Eggleston Connor: We do, yeah.
• 1:18:29
  Matt: If I can get one, I'd be happy to do that, or… The old one.
• 1:18:38
  Peter Eggleston Connor: -Oh.
• 1:18:42
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Probably Millermont 4. Oh, look at this. It's December, and we've got Santa, except it's Techno Santa.
• 1:18:49
  Dillon Gilbertson: Techno Santa. Robo Santa, or whatever.
• 1:18:52
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Well, Santa.
• 1:18:53
  Dillon Gilbertson: about Santa from…
• 1:18:54
  Matt: Voltron! Voltron's the entire…
• 1:18:57
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Voltron, Santa… Are all his reindeer is gonna come together, and he's gonna form the…
• 1:19:04
  Matt: For one giant reindeer?
• 1:19:09
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yep.
• 1:19:17
  Peter Eggleston Connor: It's like, half of them form body in the top bars of the leg, and then the other half form the fore bottom bars of the leg, and then the sleigh just forms the head.
• 1:19:38
  Tad Eggleston: So we're going medall a lot, and putting off Christmas.
• 1:19:42
  Dillon Gilbertson: Yeah.
• 1:19:43
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Would be for metal.
• 1:19:44
  Dillon Gilbertson: do that.
• 1:19:45
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yep.
• 1:19:46
  Tad Eggleston: Christmas in June makes sense. They say Christmas is in July, but that's not actually the halfway mark.
• 1:19:51
  Dillon Gilbertson: in general.
• 1:19:51
  Tad Eggleston: June is the halfway mark.
• 1:19:53
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Yeah, but Christmas…
• 1:19:54
  Tad Eggleston: Understandable.
• 1:19:54
  Peter Eggleston Connor: how that works.
• 1:19:54
  Tad Eggleston: work.
• 1:19:56
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Christmas in July is the common, common theme, so the question…
• 1:20:00
  Tad Eggleston: No.
• 1:20:00
  Peter Eggleston Connor: want to break that, and, like, force the December issue next month, and then save the
• 1:20:05
  Peter Eggleston Connor: metal her lot for for July. I mean, I… I wouldn't be opposed.
• 1:20:09
  Tad Eggleston: No, what…
• 1:20:10
  Peter Eggleston Connor: My birthday mom.
• 1:20:11
  Tad Eggleston: is… next month is May.
• 1:20:14
  Tad Eggleston: This is…
• 1:20:14
  Peter Eggleston Connor: We'll get to, we'll get to…
• 1:20:16
  Tad Eggleston: Christmas in June as it is. If we want it to be Christmas in July, we'll have to do, like, Heavy Metal 2 or 3 that we don't have proper digital copies to show.
• 1:20:25
  Peter Eggleston Connor: good. This works.
• 1:20:28
  Tad Eggleston: But they've been out long enough that I don't understand why Matt and Dylan don't have copies yet.
• 1:20:33
  Dillon Gilbertson: It's true.
• 1:20:36
  Tad Eggleston: I mean, Dylan's a starving artist, but Matt buys heavy metal, so I don't understand.
• 1:20:42
  Matt: No, no, I don't.
• 1:20:44
  Tad Eggleston: You don't buy heavy metal?
• 1:20:46
  Matt: I actually… I actually canceled my pull list at my comic shop.
• 1:20:50
  Tad Eggleston: Entirely.
• 1:20:52
  Matt: Except for Saga.
• 1:20:53
  Tad Eggleston: Wow.
• 1:20:56
  Tad Eggleston: Frustrated with the comic shop, the industry, or just broke because you got two girls in college?
• 1:21:00
  Matt: You got it, it's… That's what got me!
• 1:21:04
  Tad Eggleston: Okay.
• 1:21:05
  Matt: Every time!
• 1:21:07
  Tad Eggleston: Well…
• 1:21:08
  Tad Eggleston: Belle has stuff paid for starting next year, and that stipend, so you should just have her start paying you back.
• 1:21:16
  Matt: Yeah, she doesn't have to pay me back. But, yeah, it'll help, but… oof.
• 1:21:21
  Matt: It's tough, man.
• 1:21:24
  Peter Eggleston Connor: I… I hear ya. I don't even have kids in college, and it's…
• 1:21:27
  Tad Eggleston: Yeah.
• 1:21:29
  Peter Eggleston Connor: Interesting.
• 1:21:30
  Tad Eggleston: Alrighty. Well, that is all she wrote for, for… Heavy Metal Book Club, so, Matt, you wanna…
• 1:21:41
  Tad Eggleston: Do your duty?
• 1:21:43
  Matt: We'll continue after the next page.