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ABJ Podcast Ep 41 Nathaniel Cunningham · ABJ

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What's going on everybody? We are back for another episode
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of the a BJ podcast going to be episode 41.
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I know the graphics the last couple weeks have been messed up
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there off by one number. You guys can figure out why?
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No, I'll tell you exactly why I have a notebook where I write
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everything down and I wrote someone's name in the wrong
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column and then mess all the numbers up by one.
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So that's what happened. And they were already done.
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So they stayed that way. But so.
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But listen, we have a lot of great, great interview coming up
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here today with an accountant, the fan, you're cutting him,
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we'll talk to him in a moment was get the housekeeping out of
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the way. But before we do, I just want
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you guys know, Mary Elisabeth interview was going to be
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Thursday, she had some engagements coming.
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I actually thought I was losing the interview, I was bummed
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because that's, you know, I have to talk to the queen but we move
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that to Wednesday. So we're going to have another
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episode for you guys tomorrow. And then when everything was
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going crazy and I was trying to scramble to find a fill in for
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Thursday, I came across a very, very, very cool talented person
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at high tension wrestling, the weekend of that show, and met
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harleen. Lopez.
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So she will be on the show Thursday.
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Well, which is exciting. So that's pretty much it for the
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housekeeping. But let's get this podcast
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started. Without further Ado, let me
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bring in my guest. I love this kid to death, he's
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part of that he's hard at, this new group coming up there.
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I just watched the new. What The Hell movie was it
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scream? When they were the, they had
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their own good crew name? I don't know what their true
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name is. Maybe, we'll find one out in
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this podcast, but let's bring him in that.
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Daniel cutting him. Thanks bud.
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What's up? Thanks for having me.
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No problem. What what's Your crew here.
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What is your cruise name? Like your little The High Ground
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crew. I'd that's what I've been
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calling you guys, but I love how you guys stick together, and you
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guys are this little family and you're such a good support
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system for one another. But yeah, super, super excited
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for you guys and what you guys are bringing to the table.
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You know, I'm excited. Our group is awesome.
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And we are essentially looked as a high ground kids now, but I
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mean that the company doesn't solidify us, so we We were our
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own person and yeah, because you guys have been carrying over
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since you guys got in the broken from backbreakers on you don't.
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I mean, that's why I said I don't want to lumpy as into it
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like a promotion name. Like I said, you know, like the
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four horsemen but there's like 15 or 5 or 6 years, you know?
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I mean but ya know there's a ton like yeah and we travel
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everywhere together. Triple wa P CW.
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A wherever one is booked. We all go.
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But we have spots or not because you just have enjoyed the time
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on the road. That's it like yeah, driving
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driving with people is really cool, me and Pete me.
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And him have had amazing bonding experiences.
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Me and Mike and see, Riley have have the same thing.
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This is why I don't like learning real names but have had
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amazing experiences as well. Those moments behind the wheel
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and driving to shows is irreplaceable and that's where
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you were going to. That's where that's where you
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were going to build those bonds and And chips.
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But well let's dive into a man. Speaking of your crew and your
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training. How did you get involved in
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professional wrestling and how did you land your first school?
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So I got involved young like most people.
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Did I used to go? Watch my godfather Russell and
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he wrestled a place like triple wa he wrestled the McAdoo.
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I'm not sure what promotion was out there.
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He went into the night Prowler so going to see him as a kid
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really kind of inspired me and like I wanted to do it and then
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I got Infant like ended up bwe and that really broadened my
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horizons and I always wanted to do it since I was a kid and once
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I turned 19, I was like, I'm gonna do it.
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So my godfather actually set me up with Justin glory and he told
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me what the school was and I came down and talked to him.
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And next thing I knew I was signed up and remember how I
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said earlier, how your group of kids is, like, I love every
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single one of them when they're all dope and they're all
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amazing. All except this piece of garbage
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Ricky prize says oh God not these two.
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What? And absolute their father Gaius
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he really is. Yes, I agree.
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I know for a fact, he's a giant, a BJ fan because he's in every
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stream he wants to hear his voice.
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He wants me to say his name. Unfortunately, he's going to be
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on the podcast in a few weeks and I can't the things I do for
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businesses and for promotions. And for my friends, you know, I
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got a, I had a, I had the book book this trash human being.
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But anyway, let's get back to your interview.
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I don't want to get too much time.
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Even told me he collects you stickers.
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He does he does, he does, he puts He puts them on his back,
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it shows. I don't know why he does, but
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yeah, so now how long did he Russell?
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My godfather. Yeah, I think it was ten to
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twelve years. I want to say, I want to say it
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was a lengthy time. I know he got injured and that
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kind of like solidified that he was done for him.
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I think it was, I'm pretty sure it was a shoulder.
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I think it's separated and he was just done ever since.
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And then he got into some really bad car accidents and ever since
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then like he still comes to my shows watches me as much as he
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can, but as far as the wrestling side, it just ended kind of sad
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for him which It is unfortunate. What what age did you jump right
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into training? Like as soon as you were able
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to. Well I was my plan was once I
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turned 18 come down the school sign up but then no one in my
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family that it was good idea. So that was the kid that did it
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like pain? I only played baseball, a little
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football but like solely baseball.
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So like they try to push me against wrestling and say, like,
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you know, it might not be for you, you know, you can get hurt
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like, really bad stuff and scenarios.
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So I kind of do Help me off for a year.
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But once I turned 19, I was just like, I'm just gonna do it.
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And if it doesn't work, it doesn't work.
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Yeah. Now what we're some of those
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critiques that were given to you.
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True. Did you struggle with the you
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know aches and pains and stuff like that?
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Oh absolutely. Especially in the beginning.
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I do not think wrestling was going to be as hard as it was
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and it really turned my head on like how this business is, you
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know, what do you think it toughens you up here?
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Do you like what what do you think separated you from from
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changing that demeanor? Mentally of like, okay, I can
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take these bumps, I can take these, you know, this these
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situations and and, and move forward.
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Oh, I definitely just in glory, helped me a lot.
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Do talking to me when I was down because I did struggle with some
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things. Like everyone else.
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I struggled with rope running taking beagles suplexes because
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I was just in my head constantly.
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So after I got over a little hurdles with his guidance, it
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really truly help. Yeah, Vince stores in the chat
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says those first few months or tough.
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I listen, it's I can't really compare it cuz I've never really
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done wrestling, but it's just like when you when you sign up
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for football on, you're doing those three days and essentially
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those three days sometimes for days it's like two, three weeks
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long. And they're just there to kill
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you and they're there to see what you can do.
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And there's they're there to mentally see if you want.
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This are you don't Want this. And then as that's essentially
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what they do to you professional wrestling but it's awesome.
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That once again, just kind of singing his Praises of Glory of
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saying I, as someone who could just be easily, be like that kid
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didn't make it. He's tiny scrawny, he's little
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he's this he sat with you and helped you through that mental
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aspect and that, I think that's super dope and that's why I
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think like with your crew and helping each other and then
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knowing that how much a support system is important in
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professional wrestling. Are anything you do especially
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Industry where the older School generation didn't really have
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our utilize that support system and you guys are kind of
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changing that Mo. You know what I mean?
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No, absolutely. And if I didn't have my group of
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friends and my support system, I don't know how long I would have
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lasted without them essentially because, you know, we pick each
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other up as much as we can. We were down and the good times
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are really good and the bad times really, really suck.
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Yeah. Yeah, absolutely.
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No. You said growing up, you watch
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your Your aunt and uncle and wbe and stuff.
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Who are some people. When you watch that, you would
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say, now that you go backstage, tape study wise.
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Now that you're in the business, you've learned, you know, behind
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the curtain a little bit who are some people you study to better
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yourself or maybe pick and learn stuff from definitely Triple H,
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Shawn Michaels. I watched a little bit of Kevin
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Owens actually because I just like it.
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Yeah. It's like a style and Jeff Hardy
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100%. I just watched on tick-tock.
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Took like all I didn't actually know where, I don't know.
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For this full thing is posted, I have to go seek it out, but
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essentially, people were backstage filming, the Kevin,
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Owens stone, cold night, one spot and essentially just like
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following Kevin. He's like, really where's
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Austin? He goes, he's somewhere pacing
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around, like a pit bull and then Kevin.
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He's in gorilla and Triple H, like you, this is, this is, this
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is, this is your moment like, go out and have fun and you can
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tell Kevin Owens in the zone and he's like, thank you so much and
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I thought he's gonna start crying before.
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He hit the curtain, because Triple H just And of giving him
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that talk that he should have gave him after before.
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Like this is it you wanted. This is what you want to do,
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what he's like. This is your childhood dream was
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your childhood hero. He's coming back for you like a
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Kevin's. Like I know, I know and then he
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fuckin goes out and does we supposed to do?
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And it was cool because I didn't know this is, obviously, you
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don't see this on cameras but essentially the entire locker
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rooms cleared out and if they weren't in gorilla because they
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had people like that a camera and gorilla of like Seth Rollins
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laughing and like this is so cool.
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Like and everyone reacting a stone-cold taking the Bumps and
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stuff. But the whole locker room was
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outside, stay on the side, stay just watching Kevin Owens,
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Kevin, it was just a cool moment.
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I just those reasons. They're like I love professional
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wrestling. That was behind the scene,
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things that a lot of people don't experience or know about
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absolutely love that so much. It is mainly a week to.
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Are you excited? I am actually I am it's night
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one but yeah I'm probably know I'm going to as well.
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I have a booking. I'm going to go to our no I
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won't miss Knight one. I'll miss so night one for me is
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Friday because it's all the gcw stuff but I won't miss 91 or 92?
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Is there a match or something? Anything this weekend you're
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really looking forward to Romina.
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Cody, Roman Coatings that how 100% if Kevin win the Tag Team
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titles? He's held a world title
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Universe. He has held The world title.
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Hey, I see a us. And now a tag.
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So he. Oh wow.
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He will complete his well, he's missing one of the world titles
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but I feel like if you had one that counts as a world title.
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No, I agree. I agree.
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Yeah, I'm pumped. Sorry, Sidetrack.
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Now, we take a lot of side quests on this podcast, but so
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when you, when you're doing this this, you know, your schooling
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and stuff. How long did it take you before?
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You went from training to stepping in for your first
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match. I know from my training point to
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the six month period I started roughing.
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So I want to say a little under a year.
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I was scheduling my debut against are Roxas and then covid
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happened so then I ended up waiting three months and Chris
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Banks. Oddly enough, great guy helped
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me a lot. He texted me and said hey do you
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want to debut at eclipse? And I kind of texted glory and I
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asked him for his permission and he said you're right.
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So yeah, I'll give you the thumbs up, you can go.
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So I had my unofficial official debut at Eclipse against Chris
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but then when covid ended, I came back home to back burgers
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and debut against and Roxas. Yeah.
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Now when you first debuted, you weren't Nathaniel Cunningham
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correct? The correct.
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I was Roberto Garcia. How did this character come
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about? So we were getting ready for my
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debut. Over-talking characters.
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And Glory kind of just said What do you want to do?
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And I had no idea at all in, Chris was working out with me a
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little bit and he's like, well, your small guy, you're, you
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know, you can do all this flippy stuff.
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Why don't you just try to mix a little looser and like, I know
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how to do Luke. I'll teach you.
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So, I started learning the style, and I actually fell in
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love with it. So I was like, all right, I'm
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just gonna be a full-on Luchador, and it kind of all
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happened too quick, but then when it happened, and it kept
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happening, and I kept running with that character, it came
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Point where like I felt so closed off.
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I really couldn't talk. I really couldn't be me or
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because you are essentially a Spanish Luchador.
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Oh, yes in Spanish, exactly. I remember, it's funny.
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I didn't, I wasn't aware of this until later because once again,
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like backbreakers I didn't have backstage access and I, and
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that's why I kind of really like backbreakers for a while.
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There, we would come and film interviews because I wasn't
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privy to a lot. Lot of talent.
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And it was like a new area of talented people.
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I didn't really know and we interviewed you.
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When you had your first title and you were still very new to
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your career and I remember interviewing you and talking to
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you and then a couple months later, like, oh yeah, he's
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losing his mask and I was like, oh that's him.
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I didn't know and no idea of the transition between you and the
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masks and stuff. And I just remember I was there
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for your first title win. And then we were there, I was
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there when you lost your mask, yes.
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Yes. Yeah, and I think when I won the
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title, I think it was only my second or third match against
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Travis Dorian. Oh my God, Donnie was going to
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be the masked. Oh yeah, yeah, we were actually
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gonna do, he's gonna be tank the Unicorn crappy the Mantis.
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It was gonna be a comedy tag-team gimmick, and we were
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just gonna roll with it, and then we came up with nothing or
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Cunningham and he shot for Donny Bambino, we just happen to be
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the bad fellas. Sorry running here.
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How do you running? Yeah.
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Now he's now he went. Now he's doing this whole new
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thing where he's not even an Italian mob anymore.
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He just he's a he's a really good Boulder.
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Yeah. And I cut back on the
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flamboyancy side of things because you know, after a while
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it's great, you know, to be that arrogant cocky, pretty boy?
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So to say, but like I'm just really honing in to like change
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my style little bit to match his and I think That's what makes us
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a unique tag team at this point. I totally agree.
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I, this is the one and I talked to you about this to the only
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critique I had of your character was that I'm not a baller, was,
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was you? You had a character who was very
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similar to somebody else that kind of came out of your school
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and I was like, man, I wish like you would like and it was going
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to actually going to happen. I'm glad you're kind of coming
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to and be like I can find another neat.
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Like you're kind of changing it up a little bit.
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I think is going to benefit you more, I think you're going to
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step up and become your own thing.
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Now, you know what I mean, and really find yourself.
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So I so I think it'd be kind of cool to see you maybe like that
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like underlying of like the the the for the, the mob boss or
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whatever it may be. I think, I think you guys is
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like Italian, goons would be really funny and it's a gimmick
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that never gets old. I mean, NXT can do it double,
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you can do it, but it's just, it's just something that stands
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the test of time. You know what I mean?
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Like, look back a little Guido and the full blooded Italians.
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And it's just something that you can keep rewashing because you
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could just turn it to 11 and Be Good Fellows but not Goodfellas.
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You don't mean like it? Yeah, it's just something you
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can have a lot of fun with and I think I'm really excited to see
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how you can transition and take this character to another level.
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Well, yeah, and essentially with like Donny, I we can cut
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problems, but we don't have got to discuss them, like, that's
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the best part. We just kind of feed off each
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other and we just say whatever and the other one follows, but
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we don't have rehearsal time. We don't have none of that.
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We just go out there and do our thing.
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And that's the best way to do it for us.
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Anyway, I was having a conversation and and and the
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conversation was how are these kids and it wasn't coming from a
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place of distain or this our jealousy or our didn't are
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wasn't happy for you guys. But a lot of the question was
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like, these guys are very, very young in their career how they
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getting so many bookings outside of their area and I literally
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said, I said, because their characters characters are easier
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to book. If your character is, I'm just a
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tough guy. Why?
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But you're not a tough guy yet, because you're still new and
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green. It's hard to get that over in a
19:59
promotion and sell yourself to a promotion.
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But when the dawn, when an Italian mobster a hippie to
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college Frat, Boys show. And all these vibrant fun
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characters that can work but also can play a character, they
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are going to get more. Bookings because a promoter
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could say, okay, I can see where I can use this character.
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To the dude walks in still very new, working things out learning
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himself as a professional. There.
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But you look at the doodle, well, there's my comedy guy.
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There's my comedy guy, bang, there's my matchup, that's how
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you're going to get more opportunities because you're
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becoming a character and you're putting yourself out there and
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you're turning it to 11. And then once you learn that
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character, I feel like if you want to be the tough guy later
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on down the road because you put on muscle on or you become that
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vet, then go do that then to but I think it's going to help you
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learn the ring. I think it's gonna help you get
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more bookings and I said what's why?
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I think? I think you guys are standing
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out a little more than than Than and getting the respect and not
20:57
and maybe the bookings, you deserve is because you're you're
21:00
willing to step out and do the character work.
21:02
You know, I agree. I agree and the only thing I
21:05
will never come out with the gun is the mirror because I was
21:08
wrestling Ricky at you CW. And, you know, we had a spot
21:12
planned out in the beginning where he's just gonna gut shot
21:14
me in the corner and the mirror ended up smashing over my head
21:18
unfortunately, and all on it, rookies back.
21:20
I was like, oh Jesus. Here we go.
21:22
Opening of the matter though. I think we do.
21:24
His master on the main card the last in the ring now.
21:28
Yeah, MJ's this time, this time he said, oh shit, just had to
21:31
clean it up. I was like, oh Jesus, yeah, that
21:34
just happened. So, what exactly where exactly
21:37
are you going to do for this new character?
21:38
What are some ideas you have? Are you still saying that then
21:41
you're cutting ham or how is it working?
21:42
Yeah, I'm still saying solely, not the end up coming.
21:45
Here I'm name-based me. And Danny are just gonna we're
21:48
still working out the Kinks here to yeah, polish, everything over
21:52
to be more of a cohesive unit. I would hear, are you guys gonna
21:56
be serious? You be comedy.
21:58
What are you trying to go for? I think a mix of both a little
22:01
mix about the happy medium, Jeff Watts, Always Sunny, yes, you
22:06
ever see the episode where the gang joins the mob and they all
22:08
start dressing like the gate, the Italian Mobsters, yes.
22:12
And they all wear the Adidas track suits and the chains and
22:15
just go if that, if you want to go comedy, watch that episode
22:18
and emulate that. All right, because he actually
22:21
gave me a change. I have a pinky ring, we have
22:23
tracks. We have the whole nine right
22:25
now. Yeah.
22:26
Watch that episode emulate, that.
22:28
And then once you guys, if you want to do more of a serious
22:30
role than, obviously start looking at more serious Italian
22:32
stuff. But I would lean more into like
22:35
you listen, we can go out there and we can body you and be that
22:38
but I would lean more to the comedy too, because I think
22:40
comments in the get your those early opportunities and
22:42
bookings. I agree.
22:44
Yeah. Great.
22:45
Yeah. I think that'd be a lot of fun.
22:46
I'm excited. I'm excited to see it.
22:48
Um, I lost my quite Macho. So when you won your first title
22:54
once, Again, comedy is was always going to people stick in
22:56
people's brains and this is why I think it's kind of it is wide.
22:59
My favorite thing is gimmicks is you wrestled Travis Dorian in a
23:04
cruiserweight title match and Travis Dorian is clearly not a
23:08
cruiserweight. No, but it was very, very
23:13
entertaining and fun and it and listen that car that night, I
23:17
believe kit, wrestles Gangrel. But the thing that sticks out to
23:21
me was your title win because it Was very funny to see Travis as
23:26
a 2005 guy or whatever. Here they build him as Russell
23:30
for a Cruiserweight title because I said that's what's
23:33
going to stick in your brain, is that funny story line that got
23:36
you chuckling, how was it winning your first title and
23:39
being told at by Glory at that point in time that we have
23:42
enough faith in you to put a, put the cruiserweight title on
23:45
you. It was, it was definitely
23:48
bittersweet because you were only months in at that time,
23:50
right? You weren't even at your full
23:51
year mark. No, not at all.
23:54
Yeah, and it was bittersweet because squid.
23:57
I was supposed to wrestle him and he got hurt the night
24:00
before. Yeah.
24:01
I didn't care about the title when titles just a prop and if
24:04
we were always taught that but it's always nice to win a title.
24:07
You know what I mean? Absolutely.
24:09
But that day the next day Glory came up to me and he's like,
24:13
hey, I don't know who you're gonna rustle book.
24:15
You're gonna wrestle someone and later in the day.
24:19
I think maybe 15 minutes before doors, open, he called me over
24:22
and he's like, oh, you're gonna rustle Travis tonight for the
24:24
Cruiserweight title. I just kind of laughed.
24:26
I was like, aw, Travis gonna get the title and it's gonna be
24:29
funny. And he said that, you know,
24:31
we're going to put it on you. I was like, oh, okay, and we
24:34
kind of just talked over everything.
24:36
And I, I know I won the title, but in my mind, I did it because
24:42
I didn't wrestle squid who had the title.
24:45
I like there's never Really concluded that or ever explored
24:49
that, right? No, because the next show squid
24:52
came back as his press enter and a triple threat when I was
24:55
defending against a Roxas. So we never went one-on-one or
24:58
had that Feud and then next thing you know you know back
25:01
Burgers kind of close the doors a little bit understandably but
25:04
yeah, squid is Loki. One of those guys to that.
25:08
He really, really entertains me and he's fun to watch as a
25:12
professional wrestler. I remember seeing him the first
25:15
time, Obviously everything that you do in this business is
25:18
visual first. So someone sees you do something
25:20
and you're like, what the fuck? Like this is good.
25:22
You're like, what is this guy? And then he goes out there and
25:25
works and you're like almost good fan.
25:27
You know what I mean? Yeah, possibly, possibly coming
25:29
on the podcast soon me you're out may have already locked in a
25:33
date, but no, that's something. I kind of.
25:36
Now I kind of wish we would have seen more of that.
25:38
Like, I'd like to see you in Squid, work an angle or are get
25:41
some stuff and I think that'd be really fun to watch.
25:44
Yeah, I agree. But there's another example you
25:48
come in, you have your character, you have your
25:50
gimmick. And then Travis Dorian, who is a
25:52
badass but also can work. He always gets somehow paired up
25:56
in a comedy role but he's such a utilized team player and this is
26:00
where I think like I love the 570 and I'm sure it probably
26:02
happens in every wrestling business but like our talent in
26:06
this area and our veterans, like the Travis dorian's and the kits
26:09
and the diamond cities of the world can walk into a locker
26:13
like a, we don't really have anything tonight and they're
26:15
just like, Dorian, you're big and you can throw people around,
26:18
go Chuck this kid around and go out there and have some fun.
26:21
Yeah, you know I mean I've seen him do it with you.
26:24
I've seen them done at what precious at Sanctuary like broke
26:27
that kid in his first match, like dorian's are really good
26:29
person to have in a locker room, he is and that for some reason
26:34
that was the least nervous matter of had is because we made
26:37
it fun. And I knew he was going to take
26:39
care of me because Travis is just that kind of guy and we
26:43
called the match, it was really fun and After he just kind of,
26:46
like, uplifted me. Like it was it was the one of
26:49
the best matches of had he is, he is my favorite wrestler, and
26:55
it's not because he's good in the ring or he transformed his
26:58
body. And he lost a ton of weight
27:00
during the pandemic and got super swollen blinged out
27:03
really. Well, it's because he brings me
27:04
beer, every time he wrestles. Yeah.
27:07
And you really, he's like the most humble this guy in the
27:10
locker room to my lovely. Is he such a nice guy?
27:13
He is he really is. That's how you if you want to
27:16
win. Me over on commentary.
27:17
Look at you, Ricky price. Bring me beer, don't break your
27:20
face. Don't bring me beer.
27:21
And if you do, make sure it's already closed, I will not drink
27:24
an open beer from you. I don't trust him.
27:27
I wouldn't either. That's crazy.
27:31
But yeah, so you you get that opportunity, obviously the the
27:34
saying stuff. Yeah.
27:35
Sanctuary the backbreakers then closes down.
27:38
You guys transition to the new school but you're out there.
27:43
Taking those bookings were Or some other places that you've
27:46
worked that stand out for you or that you feel like in your early
27:49
stages of wrestling promotions that giving you have given you
27:52
opportunity, or maybe some matchups that you have had that.
27:54
You feel like really have made you turn the corner and find
27:57
yourself as a wrestler. So, the promotion's definitely a
28:03
triple wa. I mean, like, you can have a
28:06
great match. Their, if there's a crowd is
28:08
great, they're easy to work. So, it's a great start starting
28:12
point for young Talent. I've Eclipse, they're a
28:16
fantastic place to work. I work Sanctuary, which I also
28:20
love going there. It's like driving our and you're
28:23
pretty much home. I love that place.
28:25
It's awesome and like be season, 13 coming soon.
28:29
Yes, yes. And I will be at that show.
28:33
100%, I've worked rope to rope. I mean, that's a great starting
28:38
point to for some young guys. There's been a lot of promotions
28:41
that I'm probably forgetting right now, but I appreciate all
28:44
the Opportunities. And the matchups that I've had
28:47
for the turning point for me and like, what I thought made me
28:50
better was Aaron Roxas. That he was great to me.
28:55
Working. Shelby was a lot of fun.
28:57
That was probably by far my favorite match so far other than
29:02
Andy had her. That was incredible.
29:06
I think those are the Pinnacle moments where I would realize
29:10
like, hey, I can do this and then where I realized how much
29:13
fun I can have with it. And who I can really stand in
29:18
the ring with and work as a unit, which was like, Andy had.
29:21
It was my one of my favorite matches as well because he's so
29:25
easy to work. yeah, I was head on saying, hey, there's not easy
29:30
to work, but header is someone who I thought like, It's crazy.
29:36
It's a testament out for how long he's been doing it.
29:38
And how good he is with younger talent?
29:40
Because I've seen him do that countless of times.
29:43
We're at a promotion, they're like, well, headers, a veteran,
29:45
we could put him in with the young guy.
29:47
He'll keep the young I say, but he'll also learn but header
29:49
pushes a really fast pace in a match.
29:52
He's never stops moving. No, which is if you're not
29:56
cardio ready, like I feel like Heather could easily blow you
29:59
up. Thank you minutes easily.
30:01
Yeah, easily. And especially when had he lost
30:03
all his weight during the pandemic and And he's he pushes
30:06
even faster Pace now. So when usually, when someone
30:08
says, hey I'm going to work header this weekend.
30:10
Like you better have your card are ready because I have two
30:12
dudes getting back to who's gonna push you to a fairly fast?
30:14
There's not a lot of down rest spots.
30:16
Whatever. No, not at all, not at all.
30:19
And I like that style because coming from, you know, being a
30:22
Luchador to now, turns a thing to who I am now in a dinner
30:27
Cunningham, I mean, I found it fun.
30:29
I found it like kind of going back to where I had to be that
30:32
faster paced, but also telling the story and that's the most
30:35
Our part. Are you going to bring more of
30:38
the Lucha style back, like are more into this character.
30:41
Now that now that you're working with Donnie, has more like the
30:44
base, the big guy and then there's like, Lucha style-wise,
30:47
like what are.what are something like, are you, are you opposed
30:50
to going to the top jumping off doing, you know, moonsault stuff
30:54
like that? Like, where do you lie?
30:55
When it comes to like, being a high flyer.
30:57
I'm fine with it. I mean I can't do a moonsault
30:59
because he can't do a backflip, but even at like this past
31:02
weekend a triple-double, you Amy and Danni I stood on the
31:05
shoulders to give a crossbody. So like we're back to I'm back
31:09
to the high-flying PACE and he's just there to be the big guy in
31:14
Powerhouse it. Yeah.
31:16
Now I really when you guys teamed up and I was like oh the
31:19
pretty boy in the Italian guy like I just like I'm glad you're
31:22
transitioning. I think it's going to.
31:24
I honestly think it's going to you're going to have more fun
31:26
with it. I think absolutely 100.
31:28
Yeah, totally totally think that's going to be a thing for
31:31
you. We're you guys book next.
31:35
Tag team that we can see use, I'm pretty sure this weekend a
31:39
PC. Wa we might be working a tag,
31:42
but we have triple wa coming up. We have pwx in Pittsburgh.
31:47
Pittsburgh, you guys that's a drag.
31:49
Yeah, yeah, that's the in July. It's a little far out, but we're
31:52
kind of like secure a little more dates like, far enough in
31:56
advance. I'm pretty sure.
31:59
I don't have. Hold on.
32:00
I'll check let me dou. S, maybe maybe one of these
32:04
First Fridays are the Sanctuary. We can see you guys in the tag
32:07
action because I definitely want to.
32:09
I want to see you guys work. That's I'm pretty excited for
32:10
it. I'm hoping.
32:12
So that's what I'm hoping for is well, and we're going down to
32:15
Eclipse as well. Cool, cool.
32:18
I've seen a lot of stuff for Eclipse.
32:19
I definitely got to get out there.
32:20
One of these weekends II made a poster of the day say, and it
32:23
wasn't like a post saying, I don't want, I don't want more
32:28
bookings. Like I'm open to it, but I'm at
32:30
the point now where Ike the only place I'm really doing
32:34
commentary. At the moment is going to be iwa
32:38
in Jersey and Sanctuary, everywhere else.
32:41
I'm kind of Backstage, I'm helping with production.
32:44
I'm doing things on the side helping with social media and
32:46
I'm fine with that. I love commentary and I'll do
32:50
commentary of needed, but I think it might go to the point
32:52
to where if I show up at a show I just kind of want to, I want
32:55
to be a content creator. I want, I really want to push
32:58
the brand. I really want to push what I'm
32:59
doing but taking less bookings. Lets me go and become a fan and
33:03
go to the promotions and see wrestling again.
33:05
Know what I mean? Yeah, experience at that way.
33:07
And then maybe if they're like, hey, this match is the.
33:10
We're going to have a special guest commentator of the ABJ
33:12
podcast Anthony Blackwell. Joins us on commentary and I go
33:15
do one. Maybe two matches then get out.
33:17
I would do that in a heartbeat where it's still.
33:20
Have I have a place on the show where I can do commentary but I
33:23
can still like grab someone backstage and get a 15 20 minute
33:27
interview where I can grab somebody in between or
33:29
intermission and do something like that.
33:30
Like I kind of want to lean more that direction but I do miss
33:34
being able. To go see promotions that I'd
33:37
never seen before, because if I would never have the opportunity
33:39
to go to the backbreakers, I don't meet most of that roster.
33:42
If I never had the opportunity to Sanctuary or every single
33:45
time you go to a new promotion, it's just like a whole new batch
33:48
of talent that you've never knew existed.
33:50
And then, throw in a couple people, you probably do know and
33:52
it just makes you more well-rounded in this industry,
33:54
especially me as a content creator and an interviewer, or I
33:57
get to see new people and see new faces and be like, yo, how
34:00
do I never see this person before?
34:02
They're really fucking good. You know what I mean, laughs?
34:04
So I'm really excited. Cited to hopefully own that in
34:07
more and eclipse is definitely a name that I've been hearing a
34:10
lot and that's why I definitely want to go see what's going on
34:12
there. The great talent there.
34:14
Yeah, I'm great talent on there. Yeah.
34:16
And like, who's there champions of right now?
34:20
Do you know, like Bob top your head Idina?
34:22
Okay, I think the Joey P still might be one.
34:26
Okay, I'm not mistaken. Yeah.
34:29
So when it comes to, you know, the it's were three months into
34:32
the new year but who were some people?
34:35
Are on the on the list of Nathaniel Cunningham that you
34:38
want to maybe now you're Italian mobster that you maybe you want
34:42
to whack that's on your list there who are the people you
34:45
want to work. So me and Donny, definitely want
34:47
to work Tom Mitchell and I forget his partner's name but
34:51
they nice and smooth. I think they are called.
34:54
Yeah, they are amazing. And I found Mitchell is, he's
34:59
someone I've watched transition from a backstage interviewer to
35:02
a wrestler. He is so Really hard working
35:06
that I've even seen him putting together matches, but still
35:08
trying to stay in his role of Backstage, and make sure the
35:11
backstage side of things goes, well, because it's still
35:13
something that is maybe not thought of as hard in the
35:16
business, but it's something that he knows how important it
35:18
can be to do the backstage interviews and promos and watch
35:21
him. Transition from that role to a
35:23
wrestler. He has a great.
35:24
Look, great attitude. I'm a big fan of Tom Mitchell.
35:28
Yeah. And I met him when he started
35:30
being an interviewer at ppw and like to see him now like he's
35:35
It's funny because a lot of those interviews, he would like
35:39
do a split what he talked because he's taller than most
35:42
people. So he would make himself look
35:44
smaller while he did interviews because he's actually, he's a
35:47
nice-size kid. He is he is.
35:49
And that's actually smart idea. Yeah.
35:51
And the next tag team, we definitely want to work edge of
35:54
Hope like Sarah Wray nematic. That would be an incredible
35:58
moment for us because we learn a lot of those guys.
36:01
Same thing with TJ epics and chale's Connors like, are we
36:04
ready for so good? There's some, you know, yet, but
36:06
they would definitely be like, they teach it a lot.
36:09
Listen, man, you, you guys do what you and Donny I mean,
36:13
Donnie working Sky. Rose was no, slouch that was not
36:15
a slouch match, and I hope he realizes how well he did in that
36:19
match. And and you guys can work a lot
36:23
of names that maybe you didn't think you could in the past like
36:26
you work and had her him work and Sky, Rose there two,
36:28
Veterans of this game, who work a style that not a lot of people
36:32
can say they've worked, you know what I mean?
36:35
Mean so definitely build that confidence up thinking like
36:38
yeah, I can work this person. I'd love to maybe dip my toes in
36:41
and try somebody, you know, on that level because you
36:43
definitely both can you both can do what you deserve it?
36:46
Well I appreciate it. I do appreciate it.
36:49
Donnie's in the chat. Chase trace Parker.
36:53
Trace. Oh, that's his name.
36:55
We have time until and Tracy Parker.
36:57
Okay. Yeah.
36:58
Diamond city is another one. You know, obviously if you're
37:01
doing the whole thing, I feel like if you're entering the tag
37:04
space, you got to get a diamond City match, 100%.
37:06
That would be a really fun match. 100%.
37:11
Yeah. Anybody else out there and are
37:13
you, are you more? Are you happy that you're more
37:15
diving into a tag-team style role?
37:18
And maybe not so much singles? Or how is it from you?
37:21
Because, you know, you, you were essentially, were the salt
37:23
singles guy for a while and now you're more leaning into the tag
37:26
team style. What, where do you have to go?
37:28
Mentally, or what are you feel like transitioning from one to
37:30
the other is for you. I mean, if I get booked as a
37:34
singles, I'll still take it. It's great.
37:36
But I'm having the most fun right now.
37:38
Is a tag team with Donnie. Like, we've discussed it back
37:41
and forth. I asked them, you know, like, if
37:43
you want to go back to singles, we can both separate and go.
37:46
Our separate ways. Again, are just Men Travel or
37:49
just manage each other and he's like, no.
37:50
Like I want to do this. Like we have a lot of fun
37:52
together, and there's a lot of ideas there even for Content,
37:56
like we have a lot of ideas, so it's just going to be exciting
38:00
to see how this year plans plays out with Donnie by my side.
38:04
So we're trying to get his money Todd tag, bookings as possible.
38:07
Donnie wants, South Philly's, Finest.
38:10
I knew he does really bad but he also thinks we're going to mesh
38:15
really, really well with them. And I mean, if the opportunity's
38:18
there, we would love to do love that opportunity.
38:21
Yeah. Yeah, it would be a whole thing
38:22
where they would say your gimmick infringing in them.
38:24
And then, yeah, we're real Italians and you guys are fake.
38:27
Know, we're real Italians and you're not faking.
38:31
Yeah, that would be a lot of fun.
38:33
They're also really good guys. But yeah, I like I said, even if
38:38
you do the single of roll like and he said you're always travel
38:40
with each other just and ringside with each other, you
38:42
know what I mean? Like you can still work singles,
38:44
but keep this thing going. And we'll honestly, one of the
38:47
things that I keep hate to give him props.
38:49
But like, when you're working with a guy, Backstage like a
38:53
Ricky you know I mean rmj stacks and they're putting the work in
38:56
that they're doing with in the ring.
38:58
But also in promos like you have to see that and be like it's
39:02
working for them, they're getting more opportunities
39:04
because of the work they're putting in promo wise, like I
39:07
feel like in your group it's got to be.
39:09
It's got to be one of those things.
39:10
Like, we have to step it up. Yeah, no I agree and do to, you
39:15
know, personal lives with me and Donny at the moment.
39:17
You know, we couldn't have, we get together one day a week on a
39:20
Sunday and That's when we start talking about ideas.
39:23
So there's a lot of ideas to come still but we're just can't
39:27
execute them right at this moment until we figure out
39:30
what's going on. Yeah, that's why you do the
39:32
whole fake. I'm on the phone with you dip.
39:35
Yeah, okay always works. Honestly, I want to maybe I'm
39:40
tip my hat a little bit here but I did that first promo to
39:42
promote an episode with Ricky and I was like, man this that
39:45
was really fun and it got a good reception and I think starting
39:49
next month I think that's something I'm going to leave.
39:51
Two more where I'm going to do like maybe not so much promos,
39:54
but episode preview is like hey this is my next guest and here's
39:58
you know here's some of the things they've accomplished and
39:59
stuff like that like I need more to do for the podcast, right?
40:04
People are already probably sick of me because I'm posting 34
40:06
times Clips a day, but it's raining, but it's the only way
40:10
to get in the algorithm be seen. You know what I mean?
40:12
Like, one of the biggest things I had to learn especially if
40:15
you're going to be in this space of making promos and stuff, is
40:18
if you put a post out and this is I would actually Do this with
40:21
promos. And if people are listening to
40:23
maybe, maybe do this as well, but if you're putting a promo
40:25
out and you have 2,000 friends on Facebook and you put it out
40:29
at like 8:00 that post might only be seen from your 2,000
40:35
Friends by 15. Yeah.
40:37
Because the way the algorithm is so you have to keep like every
40:41
so many hours, make it another post.
40:44
So you stay active in the algorithm.
40:46
So they push your content more. So it might be a deal where you
40:48
might have to make two or three promos, just too.
40:51
About. So people will be like, oh, they
40:52
made this one and, oh, there's another one.
40:55
Like, you have to kind of flood the market, but like the thing
40:58
that made me so self-conscious for a long time, there was like,
41:00
people are going to get annoyed but it's going to be more
41:02
annoying than it is good. But you would be I'm actually
41:06
finding out more that sometimes people are missing out of the
41:09
seven Clips I post throughout the week.
41:11
Maybe they only see three but at least we're seeing the three.
41:14
They didn't even see the full seven if that makes any sense.
41:17
It does. And Ricky actually helped me so
41:19
much with social media because, you know, I am a social media
41:22
God, but not to the extent. He is so with his help.
41:26
It really, like showed me a different way yet.
41:28
Again, I have some personal things going on and some things
41:31
I'm separating with. So I'm going to start guys back
41:35
on the social, guys. Making sense.
41:36
Let people get annoyed. They're not the ones you want to
41:38
reach anyway. Exactly.
41:40
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And that it's and I like I said,
41:44
there's not many people doing it.
41:45
So when you're a talent who are making promos, but actually
41:49
putting a little more effort into your problem was with video
41:51
editing. And adding the fun things in it
41:53
gets noticed and you're gonna get more opportunities because
41:56
you're doing it. I agree.
41:57
And I am the really fucking fun. If you let your inhibitions
42:00
down, and do a promo and get Goofy with it.
42:03
It's so much fun. And then like once you make one,
42:06
then more people that shows when you, when you show up at a show
42:09
this look, you'll want to film something this weekend.
42:10
It's like yeah, let's film something this weekend.
42:12
You know what I mean? Like, it's a good time.
42:15
Yeah. No.
42:15
I agree. And I hear somebody bumped on in
42:17
the background. Yeah.
42:19
Yeah. Who's bumping.
42:21
It's a beginner's class tonight. Oh, no.
42:23
It might be Big D, which he's, he's gonna be an amazing talent
42:27
least done. Is that like, the really, really
42:29
jacked ever met? Dude?
42:30
That was here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:32
He is phenomenal. Like, he's going to be a star
42:36
when he is at that point. Six like I'm excited to see him.
42:39
Yeah. He's Ricky actually brought him
42:41
in so like no better person to be brought in Maybe this pry,
42:47
maybe a few but yeah. And this area I mean yeah, well
42:52
bottom of the barrel you know but how is it now transitioning
42:56
from, you know, training student and now you're getting a little
43:00
more responsibilities at the school and at the, you know, if
43:03
her for High Ground, how is it managing all that?
43:06
And then how you're saying like you're at the school right now?
43:08
Opening the doors for a beginner's class.
43:13
It's a ride. I'll say Out in the ride, I was
43:18
when Glory before he decided to step away and take a Hiatus on.
43:22
I did want to learn more of the backstage stuff just to be all
43:25
rounded just to know exactly why we do things in this business on
43:28
the promotional side and the rest of the side.
43:30
But then it kind of just I kind of just got flooded with a lot
43:34
of things that I didn't know how to do and I kind of taught
43:37
myself but I mean it's very stressful.
43:41
It's not that I don't like it but it's starting to become a
43:48
little overbearing. So I think I think a lot of it
43:52
could be also I don't want to speak for you but like your
43:54
dream is to be a wrestler like it's cool to learn that stuff
43:57
but also you don't want to over bury yourself and then lose your
44:00
opportunities to be a wrestler because you're taking on other
44:02
responsibilities. Exactly.
44:04
So I think at this point like I've done it, I realized, you
44:08
know what I'm doing right now and I think it's time for me to
44:11
To shift change again and just like kind of just focus on me a
44:14
little more and just be more all around it.
44:17
For me, like, I can go to the gym more.
44:18
If you know, I had more time I could build myself up where I
44:22
can think of better ideas for promos or character work.
44:24
Like there's so much more time that I need for myself.
44:28
Yeah that's exactly what the whole con you know commentary
44:33
thing for me is like sure. I every Saturday I can go and
44:36
take a booking at a different place and do commentary
44:38
different places but also can I really give all my attention.
44:41
Every single one of those promotions and give them every
44:44
single bit of a BJ that I can give them, or do I take less
44:47
take more pride in their promotions, I'm working with and
44:50
do my still work on my brand, they believe in my brand but
44:53
then also be able to put the effort into my brand but also
44:56
into their promotion. So I can be a staple like, when
44:59
I work for a promotion and this is not trying to sound selfish
45:01
or anything like that, but if you bring me in to be part of
45:04
your promotion, I want people to when they think of your
45:06
promotion, especially if I'm commentary, or if I'm there
45:09
doing stuff, I want to be so So involved and I want to be able
45:13
to work so hard that people, I want to be associated with.
45:16
It says that's part of that promotion.
45:17
Hey Sanctuary Anthony block-long commentary MBP.
45:21
Like I want to work as hard as everybody else to get the name
45:23
out there and be a representation of that brand.
45:26
But it's hard to do when you fill your plate up so much.
45:28
Absolutely. And last year, I was trying for
45:31
booking so hard and I got a lot but this year already I decided
45:35
to be a little dumb and I was like, you know, I'm not going to
45:38
reach out to as many places. You know, the old places.
45:40
I used to work in are going to do it.
45:41
Down. That's a mistake on my part.
45:43
I want as many bookings as possible.
45:45
And I'm just gonna start hittin it hard again because yeah, I
45:49
can only help myself. Yeah and I'm sure along that
45:53
process. You'll find a locker room.
45:54
You're like, you know what? I think I'm going to make this
45:57
locker room, a little more of a priority because I enjoy what's
45:59
happened here? And I'm growing here and then
46:01
work there until you get to a point.
46:02
You're like, alright, I think I hit my ceiling here.
46:04
Let's go. Find the next one and it's no
46:06
disrespect to that promotion, but that's the beautiful thing
46:08
of doing stuff like, well, I'm here, I got my reps.
46:11
I feel like somebody else can take this role.
46:13
Now, I'm going to spread my wings and see if I can grow
46:15
somewhere else. See new Talent, see new faces
46:18
stretch, my wings. And and you know I mean and get
46:20
that new muscle memory somewhere else.
46:22
Exactly. And I'm not going to speak for
46:25
my whole group here. But ever since back Burke is
46:27
closed I think we kind of feel you know like we don't have a
46:31
home right now. So we're just trying to like the
46:33
best place for us is finding a home and like it comes with the
46:36
great locker room, great set of mentors and just an overall
46:40
great show. Yeah, absolutely.
46:44
If anyone has any questions in the chat, please get them in
46:48
where we'll get your guy stuff in there.
46:50
We're getting closer to that our markets.
46:52
It rolls up fast, you know, when you're having fun conversation.
46:55
So besides professional wrestling and everything else
46:59
that you're doing on the side plus by the way, the backstage
47:02
things. You know what something II
47:03
didn't realize until I was part of a ring announcing and hosting
47:07
job. Timing, I never something.
47:09
I never thought of like when you're sitting a comment Are you
47:11
don't give a fuck about timing. You're just you're just like up
47:14
matches hero. Talk about it, get it to the
47:15
next one. And then you're like, man, we're
47:17
here for a while. I couldn't imagine being in
47:19
charge of making sure everyone's in their spots, get in, get
47:21
their time in and are are what going over by three minutes can
47:25
do for a show. I just learned that over the
47:27
weekend. Like holy Hannah, that's a lot
47:29
of work. That's a lot of responsibility.
47:31
That's its that's the most anxious part of like preparing
47:35
that because I'm sitting there and I'm like you know if we go
47:38
over by four minutes one or two matches I'm paying the doctor a
47:42
few hundred bucks. Yeah.
47:44
So you know I think I'm just going to worry about myself for
47:48
it's a lot. It's not no not at all.
47:51
Yeah. And the other thing with that
47:53
too is like being a wrestler. I don't understand how you guys
47:58
put together matches backstage. If you ever have the pleasure of
48:01
hearing two wrestlers, put a match together, it's insane.
48:04
And you're not going to learn anything at all.
48:07
I'm pretty. I would say I'm very I'm a very
48:09
smart wrestling fan but I listened to two people put a
48:12
match together and they might as well be speaking Pig Latin.
48:16
Yeah. Yeah a lot because it's a that
48:18
too. Yeah it's I can I've listened
48:22
and kind of like satin spied a little bit and listen to someone
48:25
put a match together and then went out to commentary to see
48:28
how much I can translate from what they said to what they were
48:30
going to do didn't know a thing. They were going to do no idea
48:33
because like oh we're gonna do the 1 2, then the Bing, and the
48:36
bop, and then you hit me with a bit Bop and and then you're
48:39
going to end. They say this terminology of a
48:41
Move our sequence and wrestling, that everybody knows the
48:44
sequence to. And I still haven't learned that
48:46
stuff yet. And it's just like, there's
48:47
still a whole nother Leo to this magic that I still haven't
48:50
learned. It's crazy.
48:52
And then you put all that together, but then in your brain
48:56
you're putting the match together, but you're also like,
48:57
okay, well that's sequence is probably a minute.
48:59
This is probably two minutes. And then our match time is fit.
49:02
I do a podcast and I look up and I'm like, oh, I'm 45 minutes
49:05
into this conversation already. If I was a wrestler with my
49:08
a.d.d. broad be terrible, I'd have 45 minutes.
49:11
It matches because I would just lose track of time, you know?
49:14
And that's the hardest part is to gauge it.
49:16
And then once you figure out the psychology part and then how to
49:18
gauge timing for a match, it becomes a little easier like
49:22
Granite. I'm not a pro at it yet.
49:24
I'm still green, I'm still learning.
49:26
But as from day one from when I had my first match to now I
49:31
think I've gotten significantly better and learned a lot.
49:34
Yeah, this is one of those things where people listen to
49:36
podcasts, because they want to hear interviews and stories,
49:38
even if you're not a professional wrestling fan, you
49:40
have no idea what Into this industry that you just think to
49:43
guys go out in their underwear and smack each other around our
49:46
girls. But it's just like there's so
49:48
much more to this production than meets the eye and it's so
49:52
fascinating to see everything it really is.
49:54
Every single show. I go to, I pick up with
49:56
something new or I learned something new.
49:58
I didn't know existed because I don't want to learn everything
50:01
in the business. I still like having a little bit
50:03
of magic to me. I mean, like, I don't want to
50:05
hear, I don't want to see every musicians and magician's trick,
50:08
but it is, it is a very, very fast anything.
50:12
Hunter dealing with the first one.
50:13
Kicking it off like karaoke here.
50:16
I have to ask it trademark question.
50:17
If you can write a yell letter to your younger Nathaniel
50:20
cutting him, what would you say? Don't be a yes man.
50:26
I love that. Yeah.
50:27
You know, focus on yourself and sit back and only take as much
50:33
as you're willing to put out and, you know, by me saying,
50:36
yes, yes, yes. All the time.
50:38
I'm now feeding so many responsibilities that I don't
50:41
even have a day to wash my clothes.
50:44
Yeah. Yes, 100% haha.
50:48
Yeah, pick and choose. You know, I mean it's tough
50:51
because and and this is where I'll say like I can I can
50:54
assimilate a little bit with the businesses you want to take in
50:57
as much as you possibly can, like, all these opportunities,
50:59
these are all opportunities. But some of them are not as good
51:02
as opportunity you think they are and then you say yes to him
51:04
and then I know at least me when you show up somewhere like well
51:06
I feel obligated now cuz I said my because I want my word to be
51:09
good and I don't want to be flaky and I don't want to bail
51:12
on people but it just like I'm not really valued here.
51:14
I'm just Another body, another Cog in the machine.
51:17
At this one I could be a little bit of a bigger Cog and I can, I
51:20
can do more. I can I can stretch myself more,
51:22
maybe do more but have less responsive.
51:25
Yep, just find where you fit, you know what I mean?
51:27
But I think it was early stages. You want to take on?
51:29
Take on, take on, take on, take on, take on.
51:31
And then I guess a year, two, three, four years in your like,
51:35
maybe I should dial back just a hair, you know?
51:38
Yeah. Yeah.
51:39
Down overload yourself so yeah, absolutely.
51:42
Yes. So also because we were talking
51:44
about before besides professional wrestling.
51:46
What are some other things that are into?
51:47
Are your hobbies are stuff that maybe people don't know about
51:50
you Nathaniel Cunningham that, you're into definitely watching
51:53
TV. TV's like my big, my big thing.
51:56
Like if I'm just laying home, not really, I'm bored or not
51:59
doing anything. I want to relax.
52:00
I just don't a TV show. What are you currently watching
52:04
right now? It's MILF manner MILF.
52:06
Got manner, yes Discovery plus I it was the weirdest that's what
52:11
they'll say. Very right.
52:12
Yeah. Okay.
52:18
I just wanted to see what it was about.
52:20
I hear Milkman or I think that has a weird drumbeat the start
52:23
every episode doomed. It's the weirdest part, you
52:29
know, like I thought like be single moms are just going to go
52:32
on a retreat to find love. But that may be that, you know,
52:36
it's all their kids on this retreat with them going to date
52:39
other moms and they're sharing a room.
52:41
Room with them. It's really weird.
52:43
Wait they're dating the moms are dating each other?
52:46
The moms are gaining the sons of the other moms but the mom and
52:51
son have to share a bedroom together.
52:54
And if they want to sleep with the other MILF or vice versa,
52:57
they have to go into the room with their mother as well.
53:00
It's a very weird show. What the fuck?
53:06
So the the sons are all going to hook up with other moms but they
53:11
Have to date other moms while their moms are also dating
53:15
younger men while they're there to yes.
53:17
And they do make jokes with each other saying like I'm going to
53:20
be in your stepdad. That that wouldn't sit well with
53:23
me. If I was that son, I wouldn't
53:25
even want to be involved in that so I can only imagine how they
53:28
feel. It's an end wasn't shocking.
53:32
Sick individual pitch the show and then it got greenlit.
53:36
Here's exactly takes all these young people and they're gonna
53:40
obviously click together. And there were going to take
53:42
their moms and they're gonna try to bang their moms like what.
53:46
But then they have to share a room is happening.
53:51
And the weirdest thing is like the youngest kid on the show is
53:54
dating the oldest woman on the show.
53:56
Oh my goodness. It is a definitely a ride who
54:00
pits. This is shit and it doesn't
54:04
Discovery. I want this one on Netflix where
54:09
they take like the youngest Most non-monogamous people on the
54:14
planet and they're all like six pack abs, Instagram models and
54:18
stick them on this island and the whole time they have like a
54:20
million dollars in the pot and every time they physically touch
54:23
each other, they lose money. And it just, yeah, it's
54:27
essentially getting them all. And they're like, all right,
54:29
today's activities body painting, and they just horn
54:31
them all up and they're like, go to sleep.
54:33
You'll undo anything and it just like the team has lost forty
54:37
five thousand dollars and then always get the two that are
54:42
repeat offenders with that toe. Yeah, they just can't stop
54:45
touching each other, it's great. Yeah, I can see that, but the
54:47
whole mom, honestly, you might have talked me into this show, I
54:50
got to check it out. You have to check it out.
54:52
I love trash reality TV, like especially when it's especially,
54:55
when it's like social experiment stuff.
54:57
I want to believe that it is like a social experiment, but I
54:59
know it's all fucking scripted. Yeah.
55:01
And like the weird part is like, there's the moms, you think they
55:05
would like tone it back a little bit there, some sitting right
55:07
next to them for the interview, but nope, they their moms are
55:10
really let go of what Willing to do with the bed.
55:12
And I'm like, what the hell is going on?
55:15
Oh my God. I be so uncomfortable.
55:16
If I was there, my mom. I would just drown myself in the
55:19
ocean. I would just leave.
55:21
Like, I tap out. See you later.
55:25
What else do you watching? That should also be airing on
55:27
the Hub? Well, I don't think anything
55:31
else on the Hub. I'm, I'm really into that.
55:37
You're right now. The society.
55:38
I just started to, okay? Never thought it's a really, I
55:41
know. It's only He won season.
55:42
But like I really wish they went to because like I'm at the back
55:45
end of it season now and it's like they really had a good
55:48
story and place. I need to find a new show to
55:50
watch, but every time I turn on the show, I just re-watched, the
55:53
same horse shows over and over and over again.
55:55
Yeah, parks office always sunny and Trailer Park, Boys are, I
55:59
think you should leave or like, the only five shows I watch.
56:04
And then I'm not watching that. I'm just consuming all
56:06
professional wrestling. So, I need to take breaks here
56:08
and there, like, I'm at a point now where I'm like, wrestling
56:10
overload, where like, Like my video game right now because two
56:13
k's popular is 2K and then when I'm not watching 2K I'm watching
56:17
wrestling to get ready for. You know, the weekly show, I do
56:20
that talk about wrestling. So every it's like a wrestling
56:23
Overlord while load right now and I need something to escape
56:26
from. It's a nice break sometimes to
56:28
just take you enough wrestling, it is.
56:30
Yeah, it's a lot once you're in a man, you just you're up to
56:33
your neck in as soon as you start.
56:35
Yep. You live it every day.
56:37
Is there anything else you do? Besides movies.
56:39
Are like our TV? I'm sorry.
56:41
At the moment now because I was a yes, man.
56:44
So now I have to dwindle back a little bit and find myself.
56:47
Again. Do you or do you collect
56:48
anything? Are you a gamer?
56:51
Any other like side hobbies that you had you did previously I
56:57
used to play video games but that's really you know there's
57:00
no time for it now. But yeah I mean I just got a
57:03
hole in back and find myself again and find out what I like
57:05
to do as a person. Here's one thing I would
57:08
definitely give advice to Anybody are especially to
57:12
younger guys and girls is I'm learning this now especially
57:17
with a lot of people in the business and I think it's
57:20
something that really sparked our attention as something that
57:24
we actually did together. We need to make more days where
57:28
we're not booked to go and hang out with each other.
57:31
Yeah, I know that sounds crazy to be like but we see each other
57:34
almost every other weekend because we're working here and
57:36
here together but it's way different going to go see a lie.
57:40
Local band with people that are your friends and not be involved
57:45
in the wrestling side of things. Honestly.
57:47
I like I want to do more of that.
57:49
I want to, I want to incorporate that more.
57:51
Like I said, I want to do Dive Bar reviews and movie reviews
57:54
for I just get the GoPro, go in the car and we go see a movie,
57:56
and it doesn't even have to be filming content wise.
57:58
But I, we just, you've got to take those things were like,
58:01
hey, maybe this weekend. We're not booked here.
58:03
Here and here, let's not try to find one.
58:05
Let's go do something as a group.
58:07
Let's like, get put your because I, there's a lot of times Right
58:10
now we're the last five years of doing, professional wrestling
58:13
and and and and podcasting and stuff where I don't get talked.
58:17
Like, I'm not saying I lost friends because I still am very.
58:20
I feel like I have a very large and vast friend group and and
58:24
friend groups who don't even know each other friend group.
58:26
Like, I'm not saying I'm very popular, but I'm just saying,
58:29
like, I have a lot of people that I, that I consider I'm very
58:31
close to. But the problem is, I don't get
58:34
a lot of phone calls and saying, hey, we're hanging out this
58:36
weekend, because a lot of their minds states have doing this for
58:39
so long as he's busy, Not even gonna bother him.
58:41
He's busy, he's he has something going on and then you almost get
58:44
forgot about by your friend group because you've invested so
58:48
much time. So it is nice that when you do
58:50
have a weekend you can go and hang out with people and do
58:52
things and don't like you said, don't overload yourself, still
58:57
find ways to develop your relationships and spend time
58:59
with if you have families and stuff like that.
59:02
Like it's, it's important. It's really important.
59:05
I agree. And I couldn't agree more.
59:07
And yes, saying if I phone ends up, Dying or I can't have
59:11
cutting out my phone's on three. Yeah.
59:13
Well, we're literally wrapping up right now.
59:14
Where can people find you on social media?
59:17
Definitely my Facebook. And the Daniel Cunningham.
59:19
I have a YouTube Nathanael coming ham.
59:21
I have a tick, tock underscore Nathaniel Cunningham, and I'm
59:26
trying out the Twitter thing. I just don't know, the username
59:29
right now. Well, I think I'm toxic at all.
59:31
You'll have a blast. Yeah, our brother will thank you
59:39
so much for your time. It was a blast.
59:42
We literally are hitting it right on the hour.
59:44
Mark, this platform is always open, brother.
59:46
I'm really proud of you. Like I said, I think you're
59:47
really finding yourself and focus on you brother.
59:51
Don't like I said, find yourself, do you?
59:53
You have a great support system. I love you guys all the death
59:56
and I can't wait to see how you guys keep growing.
59:58
And I can't wait to see this new character change, you know.
1:00:01
Absolutely. Thank you.
1:00:02
And thank you especially for having me anytime, bro.
1:00:04
You know, this door is always open.
1:00:06
Alright, well we'll let you guys go here, like I said, make sure
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1:00:17
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1:00:22
Can't wait to talk to her. I don't know much about her.
1:00:24
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1:00:39
and and Leave some comments when you see people stuff that helps
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out a lot and helps that growth go.
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But we'll see you guys next time for the a BJ podcast.
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I'm out of here. And here's some music.
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By the converse kid Billy tray.