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Franklin Effect · Boundary Corner Podcast

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We finally got here, y'all? Hey, Adam.
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We got our guy, we got our guy. Did we think it was going to
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happen? You know what, there was moments
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where I was like, I don't know if they're going to close the
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deal. I don't know if they're close,
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close the deal. It was, it was a very 6-7
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situation. Like I I don't know what was
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going to happen. Only hear about that 19 times a
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day in my household. It it, it was, it was.
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Is it going to happen? Are we going to get big boy?
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Are we going to have the balls enough to probably make the next
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three years happen? I think probably there's that's
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been put to rest because there were people questioning can we
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hit those numbers? I got a feeling I don't think
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Jane Franklin would have signed the dotted line unless that
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money was guaranteed. So.
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But here we are. We are here to tell the truth
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tonight. We are trying to get Tally on.
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I don't know Brian, do you? Do you got a message from him
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before we start opening? Up for getting Alabama Internet
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issues? He needs to just get on his damn
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phone and hold it up like this. Like I did this morning on Big
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Dog. Yeah, if y'all didn't catch
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Brown on Big Dog this morning. Technical difficulties there.
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As well. Hey, you know what sometimes you
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got to do what you got to do. Sometimes you, you bring your
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work computer in and you, you forwarded the the link to join
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to your work computer and it doesn't make it through the
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firewall and you got to, you got to go with Brown too there, so.
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You, you got to do. We thought Tally got better
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Wi-Fi too. We thought he got what was it?
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Starlink is. That it Nah, Google Fiber,
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Google Fiber, although that was that was before he moved.
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So I don't I don't know what he's got at the news place.
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I can't. Remember what he.
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Did or if he went with the same thing.
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So you know what we're going, we're going to let this thing
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ride. He's going to join us as soon as
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he can. I think he's probably doing like
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a router restart, you know the the whole deal there.
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So we didn't want to hold this thing back too much longer.
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We're going to let him join when he jumps in, but we got a big
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one tonight. Huge.
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It's been obviously with James Franklin with the announcement
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yesterday, you know, one of the probably the biggest, maybe the
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biggest coach empire in ACC history, definitely the biggest
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coach empire in 1st. In fact, it's definitely the
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biggest question. He put it in there at 8:30.
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He was ready. Ready to rock, Justin?
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Ready to rock Shelton before we go out letting everybody get on.
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You've been busting your ass today.
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Tell everybody what you got coming up.
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I'm assuming it's going to get dropped tomorrow.
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Yes, tomorrow morning. Yep.
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Yeah, so so. We're yeah, do an article for
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the key play thekeyplay.com. You can check out and become a
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member too, because we got some pretty good content this week
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and going forward. Obviously this big hire.
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But I just kind of I did a little bit of a deep dive into
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his resume. Obviously you can, you know,
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look at yourself, but just talking about, you know, the
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fact that I think it's on paper the most credentialed to hire in
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ACC football history. You could argue maybe Mark Rick
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at Georgia taking Miami job was up there, maybe Bill Belichick.
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But outside of that, I mean, this is just one of the most
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proven hires that you know, any team in this league has ever
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had. And I talked about maybe some of
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the misconceptions about coach Franklin.
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You know, the big game narrative is a little bit overblown.
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You know, in game coaching, I talk about that and just kind of
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what is what is perception is there among among the football
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industry. So it was pretty, it was pretty
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informative too. And I think we'll talk about it.
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You know, some of the numbers that I, I, I did, I found in my
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research, But I think by and large, big thing is just this
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dude is an ace recruiter. He develops talent, he puts guys
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in the league and he wins games. And bottom line is he's a
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winner. And so we're getting a proven
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winner at the, at the powerful level.
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And I think I think it's awesome.
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I think we should all be stoked. Yeah, I mean, this is just it's
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a big time hire. I know.
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You know when when Sheldon was first talking about this, you
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see in some of the numbers especially like win percentage
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against unranked teams. She'll just drop that on us
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right before. 104 and 23. 80.9. Yeah, when we when we talk about
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like what what's been the problem with the Hokies
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especially, you know, the end of the the Beamer days and and so
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forth, Like the biggest problem is we're not winning the games
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we should win. And Franklin has proved
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historically that he takes care of most of those games.
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So I'm excited. I'm just, I'm ecstatic.
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I, I know we're going to let some folks get in here and tell,
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tell their, tell their truths on this thing.
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But man, I'm, I'm pumped. I I think some of the the
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Florida State and Arkansas tears on the timeline have been a a
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fucking highlight for me as well.
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Awesome, it's been so the. Meltdown, the meltdown of like,
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I mean, we're, we're, you got people hyping up Fayetteville.
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Like has anyone ever hyped up Fayetteville as like the the,
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the spot, the destination? No.
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So like I don't know what we're doing.
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I, I, I, I don't know what they were doing either.
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And it was the whole in, in that it was like y'all had no shot at
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him and you know, Florida State's coming, Florida State's
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coming well, Florida State never came because Florida State ain't
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got the money right now. They're honest to God the.
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State has blue balls. So, you know, and as far as
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Arkansas goes, it's like they've had what 3 did Sean, did you put
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this out here? Did you put Arkansas has had
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like 3-10 win season in the last 40 years?
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No, that was something else, but I did see that tweet.
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OK, good. You saw the tweet then and it's
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like, oh, so no, you guys aren't that good.
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It was sweet getting their tears because now they don't know who
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the hell they're getting and it's going to be pretty awesome.
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Commits, decommits, crystal balls, art source with fun
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stuff. But again, we we advertisements
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that is we're still waiting on tally, but we're going to keep
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we're going to get it rolling. Brian's going to drop the link
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in all of the necessary places. So click on it.
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Come in again. Y'all know how this works.
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We're not going to talk an hour. We're not talking 50 minutes.
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Give you a point why you like it or if you hate it.
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If you absolutely hate this hire, come tell why you hate it.
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I can't imagine too many people absolutely hating this I.
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Think I know one. I know one who hates.
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It there might be varying degrees of wait and see, might
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be varying degrees of wait and see, but you know what?
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Look who's here. He's back.
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He's back. We good now.
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Just keep moving your hand like this.
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So we know Sally, I was just giving them what you always give
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them. There we go.
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You ain't, you ain't allowed to to talk for an hour.
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Get in, Tell you why you like it, tell you why you hate it,
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tell you what you're looking forward to.
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All that fun stuff. So, oh, Sicra is actually James
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Franklin. Y'all didn't know that?
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There it is right there. He's actually James Franklin.
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He told you the whole time. So Brian's dropping that in all
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the chats. Brian, Twitter let you get it
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everywhere and y'all. Throw it.
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I'm throwing it out there right now.
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We had somebody jump in and then he jumped back out.
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He said he was going to be. He originally originally said
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he's going to be ready between 93945I don't know if he was
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jumping on early, just trying to get things rolling, but I'm sure
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that that he will be making an appearance here before we close
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this thing out. Absolutely.
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So y'all see the IT is in there now.
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It's on Facebook, it's on YouTube.
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I don't know if you got it on Twitter yet, Brian.
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It doesn't really drop on Twitter because the Twitter
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doesn't have a comments but if if you're on Twitter want to
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join I can I can DM you. Yeah, so DM podcast.
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Comments that you wanted, you want the mic and I'll DM you.
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Perfect, perfect. So yeah, drop it in there.
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So tally you, you've been sitting out the 1st 10 minutes.
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Just your quick takes what you've been thinking.
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Hold on. Hold on, Oh man, do we lose him
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again. No, no, he, he, he had to tell
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you what he's thinking. What are you thinking?
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Oh, this is. What I'm thinking right here,
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This is what I'm thinking right here.
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Henny Baby Henny, Henny, Henny celebrate.
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Hey, I'm with you tonight. I'm with you tonight.
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I got a little celebration. Let's drunk drinky here.
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It's been a long. Time.
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Let's celebrate. That's what I'm thinking.
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There we go, all. Right, all right.
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We got, we got one in here. We got one in here.
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Let's go ahead. And put, oh, it's our buddy
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Josh. Josh always calling in all of
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them all. Right.
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That's right. That's right.
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Go ahead, Josh. Yeah, no, sorry, hold on.
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I'm in the middle of dinner and. Podcast.
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Timing is perfect. We're live, everybody.
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This is we, we don't, we're not stuck.
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So go ahead. You, you, you've joined us a
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couple times. What's your feelings towards it?
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Good, bad, indifferent, and what you're most excited about or
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least excited about. I am super excited.
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I feel like, as we all should be, literally it's only been day
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one out of like a day and a half of us having Franklin and we're
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already reaping the benefits in a positive way.
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I don't know if y'all saw it but I think his name is like Tim
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Thomas or something off Twitter. We already got a donation
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verbatim if it's true or not. A donation of like 9:50 to 20
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million already and it's literally Franklin day one on
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the recruiting front this Saturday is massive.
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Like we already got a crystal ball for that four-star QB out
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of California and a bunch home. More four stars coming.
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So I'm definitely excited. I popped in the chat too and I
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was like, dare I say we back? But we got to wait and see how
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his staff shakes out, which I think that'll determine what our
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ceiling looks like if we make all the right hires.
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And I think we're in a great spot.
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Yeah, I agree with you. Who do, who do you think Like do
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you have any name circled of guys you want to see on this
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staff or you have you thought that far through it at this
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point? The only thing that I've kind of
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seen a little bit is for like OC kind of names obviously floating
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around Joe Moorehead. Now you can take that grain of
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salt, however, now if we could have a running back like Saquon
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in that Joe Morehead offense, then I'm OK.
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I'd be down for it. And then I'm wondering if we
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could throw enough money at Ricky at ODU if I give him an
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OK. We can because he's only making
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$800,000 and with this new budget, Oh yeah, we could, we
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could double. I'm going to Would y'all say
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double that? We could, I think, I think
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you're at least going to hit 1.5 on that.
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So like you're, you're, you're getting damn close to Dublin.
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And if we could make it a package deal if Colton Joseph
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goes in the portal, I mean, that's that would be great in a
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sense too. So get the OC with an
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established quarterback in that system.
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I mean, we saw what he did to us at home, so we know dude's a
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baller. Yeah, definitely having a really
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good season this year. So Josh seems excited about it.
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Josh, this is the third time you've joined us, man, we really
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appreciate. But we got somebody waiting in
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the green room. We're going to we, we're going
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to do this more often than you can see.
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But appreciate you all jumping on with us.
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Yeah, of course. Thanks for having me fellas.
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Appreciate it man. Thanks, appreciate.
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Yeah, you too. Tyler, look who is up next.
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There is, hey. What's ready?
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What's going on? How?
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You feeling how you feeling? I like that.
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I like this. What's what's been the what's
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what's been the the feeling on your side there, man.
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Man, he bought the kill the recruiting in this 757 man like
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I'm ecstatic. I like this that's.
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What that's? So Andre, you were on with us a
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couple about a month ago, right? That's when we had a big episode
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where everybody talked about it when the rumors were coming
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through, you know what we might get it.
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Did you believe it? Did you believe like we could
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get to that level? I.
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Wanted us to reach a little higher.
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I mean, for that kind of money, I was trying to see what's up
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with saving Irving. I want big dogs man, but but
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I'm. Cool with Frank?
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Nope. Look.
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I don't have no ill will with this hire.
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I think he going to put us in the right position at least to
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make the playoffs within the first two years.
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We take it national championship later, but first two years we
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should be in the playoffs. Yeah, I mean, you know, Sheldon
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talked about it like as far as like credentialed hires and
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things like that, guys with like resumes to talk about.
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This is definitely a big time move for Virginia Tech.
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I think, you know, like, like Josh was saying before you
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jumped on here reaping the benefits already on the
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recruiting front, some on the money front.
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You know, looking at the buzz that we're getting in the
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national media, I think like people are paying attention to
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the Hokies and what they're doing.
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I think we're moving a little bit differently than we have
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been on that front. So I'm excited.
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I know I asked Josh this the last time you got anybody
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circled on your your assistant list that you'd like to see come
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along with with Mr. Franklin? Yeah, I want Anthony Poindexter
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there. We go, there we go.
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I was on Big Dog this morning. I was like, you know, they were
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talking about he was, he asked me who I want.
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I was like, let's get Dex down here, let's do it.
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But you know. I'm I had a funny story like 2
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weeks ago. I'm just like yeah let me ask my
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Alexis. So I asked Alexis about James
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Franklin and she came out and said James Franklin.
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Is the coach of Virginia. Tech for seven years, 63
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billion. I'm like what?
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And I put it in the chat. This is probably like 2 shows
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ago maybe when he's playing Louisville, maybe that was the
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time. I'm like, did she just say that
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for real? That's all.
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I'm hyped though man. I like it.
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Some big players. I'm tired of these little ass
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players. I think we about to play big boy
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football. Tally what you think, man.
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I like it man. I'm excited.
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When we talked about coaching, coaching highs, that was my guy.
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So I'm glad we pulled it off. I'm excited about it.
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I heard y'all say something about the kid from ODU.
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You think we can get help, Ronnie?
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Ronnie. Ricky, Ricky, Ricky.
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What's his name? Ricky, Ronnie.
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Yeah. I mean, I think, I think he's
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definitely somebody that you got to at least ask the question of,
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right? Like, like, like Curtis was
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saying, I think, you know, he's not making a ton of money down
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there. I think it makes sense to, you
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know, set your targets that way. I mean, that's somebody that
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comes from his coaching tree. So it's not, you know, not not
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out of the realm. The relationship's already
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there. So I mean, I'm, I'm definitely
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giving him a call and making him tell me no A. 100%.
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Franklin Slick, man. Franklin Slick.
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Think about this. He was at a like, what other
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coaches, you know, get fired and then be on the sidelines at
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somebody else's game, right? Like, he just pop up in Norfolk,
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like, I'm just going to this game to support my homeboy out
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here eating with the fans. And, you know, he already knew
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he was going to Virginia Tech by that time.
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You know he did. You know he was just waiting for
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all the legal shit to get done. Yeah, what kind of, what kind of
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conversations was being had, You know what I'm saying in them
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back room. But I don't know man.
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I was scared of I was thinking we might because he's so close.
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I was scared of the guy from JMUI.
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Think he a great. Coach, I just didn't want us to
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go that way this time. Like let's go, let's go deep sea
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fishing. If we going, let's go.
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We hunting for great whites. We don't want these punk ass
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little fish man. Let's go for green fish man.
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Like you know, it's what we doing man.
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But I'm gonna let somebody get on.
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Yeah. Well, first.
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Of all my point, like that was my point.
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If I if we're going to spend the money, let's spend the money on
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a big fish. Let's not spend the money on a
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on a project. I mean, and it could have worked
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out fine. But you know, I feel like of of
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the coaches that were out there that seemed reasonable, that
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seemed feasible for Virginia Tech to pull.
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I think we did about as good as you could expect.
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Yeah, 100%, man, 100%. Well, Andretti, as always, we
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appreciate you jumping on with us a few minutes, man.
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Hopefully soon we catch you in Blacksburg for a game.
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All right, I've. Seen some games for like 10 the
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tickets was like $10. Go for it for Miami, go for it
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noon kick you coming from the beach, Get up at 5:00, get there
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at 8 or 9, go by the drug store with our next guest here.
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Go down to PK, get some drinks and wings and then go to the
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game. Good luck, get ready for next
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year Andrade, I'm going to see you next year for sure.
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There you go spring game. Y'all stay watching this though.
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This year we going to take care of this year.
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Oh man. Hey, you going?
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To learn Horseshoe in the playoffs coming, we're going to
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learn Horseshoe. There we go.
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Appreciate it, Andrade. All right, fellas, they came in.
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Oh man, look who is battled on ice cream.
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Wow. Week y'all.
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What's going on? Not much is why that's Jeremy
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Baltimore more or not, I am really excited right now.
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I know you knew about this a long time before it happened,
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you just didn't tell them about it.
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No, no, no, I, I found out as like you all were finding out.
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Yeah, we we had a a heads up around the same time.
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OK. All right.
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Just wanted to make sure. We got the green flag about the
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same time. I love hearing that man.
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Yes, it started, but I mean, that's The thing is we were all
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getting OK. It's it's about to come.
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We all you know, we're hearing that, but like the hold UPS,
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like they weren't bullshitting us.
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There were legitimate hold ups and you can't blame James
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Franklin for wanting pen to paper on our end to make sure
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that money was coming in before he saw, you know, Yeah.
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So. It's, you know, I get it.
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Yeah, I feel like we were getting, we got edge for about 3
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weeks. But you know what?
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It turned out all right once it finally came.
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Yeah, can I say something real quick, Jeremy, to what Tally
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said a couple weeks ago. A guy like him was going to get
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that money in the door, though. Yeah, a guy like James Franklin
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was going to get that money in the door.
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That's the thing, is that at first, whenever Franklin started
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getting thrown around, and I will admit it now, like I'm a A,
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I'm a proud man and usually don't admit when I'm wrong.
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That's actually a lie. Admit when I'm wrong.
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But when they first started throwing it around, we were
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fresh off the, he was fresh off the Northwestern loss.
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And I was like, no, there's no way we can't do that.
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And then I you all especially started bringing me around to it
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a little. More and my God we could not
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have made a better fucking hire. Like immediately getting
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recruits in the door from our goddamn area, immediately
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turning shit around. He's going to bring half that
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Penn State glass. Like we're we're going to be
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legit quickly he's. Going to hit the portal.
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This is awesome. I've not been excited about
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football for ages. The closest we came.
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With Have You Jeremy, Have you renewed your season tickets yet?
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You said what? Have you renewed your season
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tickets yet? I renew them every year.
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I've not got to go. I usually just give them away to
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everybody. Yeah, I was going to say renew
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one for me and let me have one. He said renew 1 for me.
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Yeah, but I'm definitely going to have to go next year, even
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though I've got a second little 1 coming, which is yeah, you do
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like it's hard to get the ball games.
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So I just I bought my tickets and I tried to give them away to
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whoever I. Make sure you know at least
23:22
someone's enjoying them but. I don't want to give a.
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Spot up, so I keep. Give it up, I'll give it up.
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Well, how about this? We will in the spring.
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We will pinpoint a date. We'll try to get shelter there.
23:33
We'll try to get shelter there. It's just tougher to get shelter
23:36
than us. But we will pinpoint a date.
23:39
And then you will just tell your wonderful wife, Emily, I'm going
23:43
to the game today and I'm going to come back probably blacked
23:45
out. Just an FYI.
23:48
That's what we're. Well, if we land far enough
23:51
ahead of time, you know, hey, you're going to do this.
23:54
And she said no. I kept telling you I was going
23:56
to do it. So yeah, but Jeremy, appreciate
24:00
you jumping on Jeremy. Circle your calendar sometime
24:03
next month, the state of the program.
24:05
And it's going to be a really fun episode because our buddy
24:09
Robbie just says. Oh.
24:12
Baby but but good to see you man, good seeing you all, love
24:17
you all. Jeremy Love.
24:19
You brother. Oh man, from one all time
24:23
special guest to another all time special guest.
24:28
Dwight he is. What's going on?
24:31
You got the pot, you got the pot we cooking.
24:34
No cooking tonight, man. I may, I may save it.
24:38
I post it here. I may bring it out.
24:40
I'm gonna wait till like we get to the Season 1 when Franklin's
24:43
got the headset on and we we playing somebody like Miami or
24:48
something or a big game. I'm going to bring it out.
24:51
That's going to be my thing. I'm going to do What's up,
24:54
fellas? How we doing, Dwight?
24:57
Where is your feeling, Dwight? I mean, you know.
25:00
You've been quiet, Dwight. You have.
25:02
Been and I hit you up yesterday and I said Dwight, you know
25:06
we're going to go live. We're going to let everybody on
25:08
tomorrow night, whoever again, all y'all in the chat.
25:11
I saw Justin was in here and he jumped out.
25:14
This is your time to speak and Dwight didn't even tell you.
25:17
He knows he's going to be a little long winded.
25:20
But even the white. Last time, though, we can keep
25:22
it moving. But the white.
25:23
You didn't say much when I texted you.
25:25
You said all right, I'll. I'll get in tomorrow night.
25:28
Yeah. The floor is yours.
25:29
You're feeling on this high. First of all, when it's all said
25:33
and done, 10/15 years from now, they're going to do a 30 for 30
25:35
on that, that boundary pointed group chat.
25:37
We got that. That's just that's off the hook
25:41
That that that gives me life some days when I'm having a long
25:43
day. So I also want to start off by
25:46
saying I tweeted this early, but I want to go on your part
25:48
because I know we got a lot of viewers tonight.
25:49
Always got a lot of viewers. Top podcast in the game.
25:53
I want to shout out coach Monty, man, he inherited a mess that he
25:58
didn't create, but he's been well focused on cleaning it up.
26:01
It's very difficult, man, when you are working a job where you
26:05
don't know the certainty of your position.
26:06
But he kept a lot of guys locked in.
26:09
He made some tough decisions. He won a couple of games that we
26:11
probably won and won previously, so I respect him immensely.
26:16
And those kids who bought in, I've been purposely quiet about
26:21
it because I was thought you guys know we're close and we're
26:24
in a chat. I was getting fed up.
26:27
I understand the business side of things, but I was just like I
26:29
tweeted last week, you know what, it might be time to move
26:33
on. Even though I leaked it to y'all
26:36
months ago that I told y'all it was going to be Franklin.
26:40
I, I mean, this is like I said this to y'all before it was even
26:44
a buzz. I said it's Franklin because it
26:47
makes sense. And I just had a little bit of a
26:48
few insiders that would hit me. But I'll say this man, when it
26:52
comes to Franklin, I don't know him personally, but from afar, I
26:56
think there's been a few, there's been a contingency of
26:58
tech fans that have been a little delusional about what he
27:01
brings to the table. And I know Shelton is always the
27:05
guy that hits us with the stats and analytics, and I'm going to
27:08
let him cook with that. But you talk about it, you talk
27:11
about a guy that was. You know.
27:14
Top ten, top 12, top 15 program. You know, you talking about
27:19
10/11/12 win seasons, you're talking about tougher conference
27:23
when he's been a thorn in our side recruiting wise.
27:26
He took Ricky Slade, junior from Woodbridge High School, who was
27:32
a five star running back up here in Nova.
27:34
He also took Devon Ford, A4 star running back that was here in
27:38
Nova. He took a lot of other guys that
27:42
were Virginia Tech leans or have Virginia Tech in their top
27:45
three. I think when it comes down to
27:48
it, you have instant credibility where you have a coach that's
27:52
recognized in any high school in the country, a guy that go into
27:56
a school and people are going to want to take a picture with him
28:00
because he's, I don't want to say a celebrity, but he's well
28:02
known. He's got credibility.
28:04
He gives Virginia Tech's brand that's taking a mighty hit back
28:08
to the Fuente and even prior, especially with Fuente.
28:11
He's giving Tech's brand instant credibility when it comes to
28:14
recruiting. On top of it, I don't think
28:18
people realize when it comes down to winning championships,
28:21
national championships, how hard it is, whether it's the old era,
28:25
the new era, but he's been knocking on that door.
28:27
People going to say, well, he hasn't won and done it at
28:30
Virginia Tech. Well, here's the thing.
28:34
Virginia Tech has the culture, has the atmosphere and has some
28:38
talent. To me, that issue has been
28:41
accountability, infrastructure and having an identity on the
28:45
field. Well, you know when you watch a
28:47
Penn State team coached by Franklin, you know what kind of
28:50
identity they're going to have. You also know what kind of team
28:53
you're going to get. Also, what you're getting is the
28:56
coach that this is. I'm a big fan of this.
28:58
You're getting a coach that basically was disrespected and
29:03
basically, for the lack of a better phrase, he was should
29:05
have done. He got exiled from Penn State
29:09
and the rumors were that he lost the locker room.
29:11
He couldn't win the big one. That guy.
29:14
If you know Penn State players, I have a linebacker I coached
29:17
when he was young. He's there.
29:19
Marty Campbell, he starts for Penn State.
29:22
He's one of the best linebackers in the Big 10.
29:25
He's an NFL prospect. You know the coaches love
29:28
coaching with him. You could probably point out
29:30
flaws with every college coach, but ultimately, I think what my
29:34
God is going to bring is the guy that has something to prove.
29:37
I think if he had one, maybe a national championship or had
29:41
one, the game that, you know, the Ohio State game where people
29:45
talk about you can't beat them in Michigan.
29:47
Here's the thing. How many times in college
29:50
football, even in the NFL, have we seen a coach come to a
29:53
situation where he's already kind of plateaued or he's
29:56
already reached that pinnacle And they they do just enough,
30:00
right? Because they sit on their
30:01
laurels. They rest on their laurels.
30:03
Well, we saw his reaction on game day where he said I'm just
30:07
going to go somewhere else and win the national championship.
30:10
So this guy is extremely hungry because he has a lot to prove
30:15
despite his last 10 years of accomplishments.
30:18
People think that, and I'm glad I told this to tally when he
30:21
mean and chopped it up earlier. People think this is like a
30:24
situation where everybody's in agreement.
30:26
There are a lot of pundits and media guys that think this might
30:30
be a dud because people don't understand Virginia Tech
30:34
football. So like, for example, I've
30:36
constantly said this in our group chat.
30:38
I've said this on your platform. I tweeted this.
30:40
Virginia Tech is still a great job.
30:44
Bruce Aaron said they interviewed 20 coaches, and
30:48
that's not counting the guys that they talked to that they
30:50
didn't bring in for an interview.
30:52
So the brand is just taking a huge boost.
30:55
I mean, it's great because despite all that, you guys know
30:59
I hate losing. We are three and 17.
31:01
We're not going to a bowl game. We're irrelevant.
31:05
We've been medioc mediocracy for the last five or six years.
31:10
To me, I think he gets this thing turned around.
31:13
But I'm going to be patient. That's why I've been quiet.
31:16
I'm going to be cautiously optimistic because I want to
31:21
make sure that the residue from the last regime is I'm not
31:25
talking about the culture. I'm talking about the culture.
31:27
I want to make sure the infrastructure is ready, that we
31:29
can move into this house and start cooking up a good meal
31:33
that includes the ingredients of winning and accountability.
31:36
I will say this, Franklin will hold those players accountable.
31:40
We have a meeting. The football alumni.
31:42
He's not. I told this to tell him, make
31:44
sure that's what you and your listeners.
31:46
We have a Zoom meeting tomorrow afternoon with James Franklin.
31:50
I'm talking about me and also your favorite all time Hokies, a
31:54
zoom meeting with Franklin. I mean, respectfully, he doesn't
31:58
have to meet with us. So they already this to me, this
32:02
has been probably in the works and he he's been evaluating the
32:06
roster because no coach in their right mind is going to take over
32:09
a program without evaluating the roster.
32:11
He's been looking at the roster. He's been watching games, but I
32:15
am not excited. I'm I'm I'm happy.
32:17
I'm happy because this makes sense.
32:19
I think it's a good match. I feel like tech can really take
32:22
that necessary step. And how about our fans, man?
32:25
How about us? I mean, you talking about a fan
32:27
base that's been so patient despite the hell and back that
32:31
we've experienced the the lies, the mischievous decisions that
32:35
make no sense with personnel groupings, the fact that this
32:39
program, the fan base deserves better.
32:41
And I think Franklin gets that. And I'm sure him and pride did
32:45
some texting, some talking. They have history.
32:48
I I mean, this is a good situation.
32:51
I mean, the recruiting, I can't, I can't share with y'all enough
32:55
how much he's going to do when it comes to recruiting.
32:58
So I'm extremely happy and I like the fact that despite what
33:02
he's done, I'm repeating myself. But just to put a bow on that
33:05
point, he has done a marvelous job at Penn State, but none of
33:08
that counts no more because he has to do a marvelous job at
33:11
Tech. And he wanted Vandy before Vandy
33:14
became what they are now. He wanted Vandy.
33:16
He won 24 games and Vandy, he did a great job there.
33:19
He went to Penn State at the Zandusty and all of them were
33:23
doing some of the most egregious acts to children in the history
33:26
of America. He won there.
33:28
Nobody wanted to listen. Let me remind y'all family,
33:32
nobody wanted that job. Nobody wanted that Penn State
33:36
job. When he took it, he walked in
33:38
there and was like, yo, I got it.
33:40
And they became a great program. His lowest rating recruiting
33:45
class is 24. That's been one of our best
33:48
recruiting class in the last 17 years, right?
33:51
So again, I can cook all night on this one man.
33:54
But I like the fact that we got a guy that is now a hokey but
34:00
doesn't have hokey ties. He can come in and create new
34:02
memories, new expectations. We can get rid of all the, you
34:07
know, back in my day, even though I love what we did, I
34:10
want new expectations, new memories, and I want new energy.
34:15
I want accountability and I want wins, man.
34:17
I think we're going to get all of that.
34:18
And I'm going to tell you right now, I'm going to say this, man,
34:22
I'm going to let the next guest come on.
34:24
Hey, look, bro, if he gets us to that mountaintop, I'm going to
34:28
lose my mind. I'm telling you, I'm taking off
34:34
work. I'm not even talking about the
34:36
players. I'm talking about because I, I
34:38
always hear the people, you know, the Wahoos and the
34:41
Hurricanes and the trolling. I get it.
34:44
We haven't gotten it yet. I know we've had moments, but
34:47
nobody knows heartache like Tech.
34:49
But I've seen the Red Sox win it, I've seen the Cubs win it.
34:52
I saw the Cleveland Cavaliers. It can happen, but a lot of
34:55
times you need that one guy. But I just want us to be in the
34:58
moment. I hope these guys, they're still
35:01
playing, understand that the players, you're being evaluated
35:05
right now, you've been evaluated.
35:07
So you still have two games left in your career this season to
35:10
play. So anyway, you guys keep coding
35:13
it down, man. I appreciate y'all man.
35:15
Appreciate it, Dwight. We'll see you soon, man.
35:17
We appreciate that. Thanks, Dwight.
35:20
Yes Sir, take care all. Right.
35:21
We got somebody coming on, but real quick, Shelton, drop the
35:25
what? Everybody's been on the oh, he
35:28
can't win the top five games. You got the stats, We got the
35:32
top. We got drop those.
35:34
Can't don't leave. Just give Sheldon the second to
35:37
preach for his stuff here. Yeah.
35:40
So I mean, if you look at his overall record against top five
35:45
teams, we'll say top ten, he was 4 and 21 overall, 161
35:48
percentage. So obviously not great, but and
35:52
the caveat there is that he's played a very high percentage of
35:54
his ranked games against top five teams.
35:56
And really it's more of a Michigan, Ohio State problem
35:59
than it is like a a general problem.
36:02
His record against teams ranked 11th through 25 is 13 and 11,
36:06
which is actually pretty good, 7th best among active head
36:09
coaches at the time he got fired.
36:10
So really, if you take out the top ten, he's been a pretty good
36:14
coach against ranked teams. And again, I know you can't, you
36:16
know, just take out the losses. But the same time I think what I
36:19
would say is that people are probably over playing the top
36:22
ten thing a little bit like he's four and three in major ball
36:26
games, two and one in the playoffs.
36:28
Like he could he can win. He can still win games, man.
36:31
Like it's it's not like he's, you know, completely
36:33
overmatched. Just, you know, when he's
36:34
playing a good opponent. Well, I'm sitting there and it's
36:37
and it was a decade where he played both of those teams,
36:39
right? Yeah.
36:41
I think, I think like of of those 25, it's 18 or 19 is of
36:46
those two teams. Yeah, I'm pretty sure like
36:49
Michigan and Ohio State alone account for like 76% of his
36:52
ranked losses, something like that.
36:54
So again, if you want to criticize him for not being able
36:56
to beat those teams, that's fair.
36:57
That's fine. But one thing I will say to you
36:59
also is that Virgin and SEC does not play those teams.
37:02
We will never play teams of that caliber on a consistent basis
37:05
like you did at Penn State. So we can talk about that too.
37:08
But yeah, how? Many.
37:11
How many top five opponents are we to face?
37:13
In a year? Probably 0.
37:14
In most years, maybe 1. 1. On our regular schedule, I mean.
37:21
It is what it is we got. A couple in here we're going
37:23
we're going to start with Kent Justin we got you in the in the
37:26
green room here tally what you got hello I.
37:28
Was just saying I don't understand how the and again, I
37:32
get it, they're having a Goodyear.
37:33
The UVA fans keep hopping on here throwing their two cents
37:36
in. It don't matter who we put out.
37:39
I could be the coach and we still beat them.
37:42
Like it don't matter who the head coach is, they still lose.
37:45
They can have the better team, they just don't know how to win.
37:49
So they try to throw this little record out and oh, he doesn't
37:52
beat his rivals. We going to beat y'all.
37:54
That's all y'all need to worry about.
37:56
Put that on the record. Put the replace.
37:57
All right, let's get Ken in here.
38:00
Kent, what's up? How you doing tonight?
38:05
Hey Brian, are you talking southpaw from the day here like
38:08
I'm living in? I'm from South Boston.
38:10
We both are. Curtis is from South Boston.
38:12
Yeah, we we Halifax natives through and.
38:14
Through I'm taking from Scottsburg.
38:18
Scottsburg, VA. 01 of our best buddies on here.
38:21
Where is he? Hold on.
38:22
I'll get his Robbie Compton right there.
38:26
Scottsburg won the race. Scottsburg love to helmet man to
38:29
Kent. What'd you think of the Franklin
38:31
hire man? Thank you.
38:34
It was great. I'm the host of my I just got
38:37
done my podcast yesterday, the Virginia Tech show.
38:39
If y'all familiar with it, we talked about it about James
38:44
Franklin and I think James Franklin's going to bring back a
38:46
five star recruit quarterback in the future.
38:49
The last time we have 5 star recruit quarterback was Tyrod
38:52
Taylor. Before that was Marcus Vick and
38:54
I didn't know he's going to bring all the recruiting back to
38:58
Virginia Tech. That's what he's going to do.
39:02
Yeah, I'm, I'm excited for it. I like, like you said, the
39:04
recruiting is, is something that we're already starting to see a
39:07
little bit of the benefits from. We starting to see some guys
39:10
that were already in that Penn State class take, you know, sign
39:13
up for official visits at Virginia Tech.
39:15
You got a couple crystal balls going our way already.
39:18
So that's going to go, I think pretty crazy as we kind of, you
39:21
know, go over the next month towards signing day.
39:24
What are you most excited about? You know, I know I've asked this
39:27
a couple other folks. What are you excited about a
39:29
certain, you know, potential assistant hire that he might be
39:32
bringing along with him? Does anybody kind of you know
39:35
you got on your list right now? I I haven't gone that far yet,
39:39
my friends. I didn't think about anybody,
39:42
all right. It's all.
39:44
Good. So overall excited for the
39:46
Halifax boys here. This is this is how you going to
39:50
know We we we we're from where you from Kent?
39:52
What Rd. you live off of? James T Haggle Highway.
39:56
You live OK. Good.
39:57
OK. There we go every time.
39:59
I'll be. I'll be travelling right down
40:01
360 on Friday night, heading to Halifax to see some family for
40:04
the weekend. But Kent, we appreciate your
40:07
time. We got Justin in the green room.
40:08
Keep your show going, man. Keep it hustling, OK?
40:12
OK. Thank you for joining, Kent.
40:17
All right, Justin, we had your own earlier.
40:20
We you had some had some shenanigans in the background.
40:24
Hold on, Justin, first of all, we're going to tell you
40:25
something. It it's not going to bother
40:27
anybody on this program that your kids are running screaming
40:31
in the background. You are on mute by the way, FYI,
40:34
get that straightened out before you start talking.
40:36
There we go. There you go.
40:38
It will not bother us currently on this.
40:40
Shelton is not a father. The rest of us, we got 6
40:43
combined. It ain't going to bother us.
40:45
My teenagers, so they they can get.
40:47
I got a teenager too. He was in the other room
40:49
watching the CFP rankings. But what do you think, man?
40:54
Honestly, I was, I thought this was pretty much where we were
41:00
going weeks ago. I have a contact who's who's got
41:05
a friend with somebody there in Blacksburg who who kind of had
41:09
had alluded that that back before November started that
41:14
that Franklin's probably going to be the the coach.
41:17
But then I got a little bit nervous when I started seeing
41:19
all the stuff on Twitter. I wasn't sure if the deal was
41:21
going to fall through, if Sexton was going to screw it up.
41:25
Wasn't really sure. Now I'm starting to believe that
41:27
maybe they were. That was just a bunch of smoke
41:29
to keep people off, off, off kilter.
41:32
Because when he showed up down there in Norfolk on the
41:34
sideline, the ODU, I was like, OK, it's a done deal now.
41:37
He's down there either recruiting a coach, recruiting a
41:40
quarterback or both. There we go.
41:44
As far as like assistance, man, I really want to know what his
41:46
staff's going to look like. I'm curious if he's going to
41:48
keep anybody from the existing staff.
41:50
I figure Fontelle, he tried to take him from us a couple years
41:53
ago. So yeah, I figure he's probably
41:57
going to try to keep Fontelle there, yeah.
41:59
I mean a lot. Of people I'd like to see him
42:02
keep. Ferg, to be honest with you, I.
42:07
Think that might be 1. He just keeps regardless because
42:10
it is extremely tough to flip over a program because if they
42:13
if he comes and brings his own guy, that's going to be 3
42:16
consecutive years of different strength and condition coaches.
42:19
Yeah, I think year 1, I don't think there's no change.
42:23
I I really don't know that piece.
42:25
And you're talking about Fontell.
42:27
Yes, without a doubt. But I think they're tally said
42:33
it a few weeks ago. Elijah Brooks.
42:36
Don't sleep on it. I mean, ties up in I mean
42:39
demathetized DMV ties. It would not shock me if he kept
42:44
him. But if if if he comes in, you
42:48
know, I'm gonna just say this. I love Xavier DVI, love JC
42:51
Price. I love Pierce and Prelo.
42:53
I watched all three of those guys play in my life.
42:56
If he comes in and it is nobody left, I'm not going to be upset.
43:01
No, I mean. It's a show and I like I like I
43:06
like the way Dwight put it earlier is is he doesn't have
43:10
any ties to tech. But I watched this how he spoke
43:14
to the board of visitors today. He's done his homework, so he
43:18
knows the school. He.
43:20
Obviously knows the footprint and we've seen what he's done at
43:24
two programs where he's built them up from the from the rock
43:27
bottom and I feel like that's exactly what he's going to do in
43:30
Blacksburg. But I'm looking forward to it.
43:33
I, I think it's, it's, it's crazy because I mean, he's, he,
43:37
I think he's, he's doing the right things and he seem, he
43:39
seems really hungry to prove himself again, which is crazy
43:44
for someone that has had the run he's had at, at Vanderbilt and
43:47
then Penn State for, you know, over a decade at this point.
43:52
That still feels like they got something to prove.
43:54
I, I mean, I know when he got to Penn State, he said the goal is
43:56
to win a national championship. And now he says he's going to
43:58
win it somewhere else and that that place that he's working on
44:00
it now is Blacksburg. When when we talk about like the
44:03
guys that he might keep. I know we, you know, we talked
44:05
about Brooks, we talked about Ferg Fontell, you know, on on
44:10
the defensive side, JC Price is probably the only one I've got
44:13
circled. It's like that's that's somebody
44:15
that you consider. I feel like everybody else is
44:17
probably going to be somebody brand new coming in there just
44:22
because I don't think we saw enough out of the other units,
44:28
you know, over the course of a prize regime where you can
44:31
really make a case there. Speaking outside of that,
44:34
Justin, I know I've asked this about you.
44:35
Have some other folks you got anybody circled kind of outside
44:38
of Virginia Tech that you'd like to see come on board with
44:41
Franklin? I don't really know his coaching
44:44
tree well enough to really speak.
44:46
To that other than. I.
44:48
Do like Ricky Ronnie man. I don't know if they can get him
44:50
out of the ODU. But he's got that system working
44:55
down there. And I feel like they they have
44:57
a, a decent offense. I mean, look at what they did to
44:59
us this year. Yeah.
45:01
And you know. I think he's.
45:04
That would be about the only one I'm really want to know.
45:06
I really do want to know who he's looking at for defensive
45:09
coordinator. This can be interesting.
45:11
I'm gonna make a 2 point Ricky Ronnie go look back at 18 and
45:14
19. Other than the Joe Moorhead
45:16
years, Ricky Ronnie was his best OC at Penn State.
45:20
His best OC in in 1919 was the big, big year 19.
45:25
They went 11 and two. I think the only loss was to
45:28
Ohio State and somebody else. But the other thing about that,
45:32
and I was mentioning to the boys here before we jumped on Ricky,
45:35
Ronnie makes $860,000. I don't think ODU has the budget
45:40
to get him above like 1.3. And I think we're going to
45:43
probably be in the neighborhood of close to 2 and Ricky's going
45:47
to have a decision to make. He's having a great year.
45:49
His stock is up. It's ODU though.
45:53
If he falls flat next year, he has no shot at getting AP4
45:58
coaching gig. He doesn't and Joseph's leaving
46:00
that he's gone. He's gone.
46:03
Yeah, you're 1000% right. Whether he comes to Blacksburg
46:06
or somewhere else, that kids gone.
46:08
But what Ricky could do, If Ricky comes here and we go nine
46:13
and three next year, he's going to get AP4 job because
46:16
everybody's going to be like, look what he did at ODU for a
46:19
couple years. Look what he just did here.
46:21
He's going to get a job. Justin, we got Cokie, Chris
46:25
waiting in the waiting room. Anything else you want to hit us
46:27
with before you drop off here tonight, man?
46:29
No, just I'm really looking forward to it.
46:32
I think it's going to be a fun spring and go Hokies.
46:36
Appreciate it. Thank you, Jeff, for listening,
46:38
man. Take care.
46:38
And he was first and he was first.
46:40
Everybody's first. Take care, man.
46:48
Chris, what's going on tonight? How you feel?
46:49
What's up guys? Can you hear me?
46:52
I got you. What's happening?
46:53
First time, long time watcher, first time I guess caller.
46:56
Is that how you say? That's what it is.
46:59
Oh, is this B Chris? Is this?
47:01
This is me buddy, how you doing? Good man, how you doing?
47:05
This is D crip I. Got a story?
47:07
I got some stories I could tell you about James Franklin and
47:10
Penn State, so I'm going to give.
47:11
You some hey, before you before you get started, Chris.
47:14
The reason I said D Chris, because I met Chris on on on X
47:18
so maybe a couple of weeks ago. And you know how people just
47:21
throw stuff out, right? And you know how I am like I
47:23
like trolling. So I'm like, you don't know this
47:26
man. You don't know him personally.
47:27
He's like, yeah, I do. I don't want to throw all your
47:30
business out, but I was like, OK, well, if you are that close
47:33
to him, send me a picture. He posts a picture of everything
47:36
he's saying. I'm like, oh, OK, well, let me
47:38
be quiet and listen to this guy. So, yeah, go ahead, Chris.
47:42
So fall 20, I'll get a little bit history.
47:44
Now, fall 2015, I moved to State College from Virginia.
47:48
I'm a pastor actually, believe it or not.
47:50
So, so there's a truthful, honest story about you you're
47:53
about to hear. OK, so I'm a huge college level
47:55
fan. I'm a hokey alum.
47:57
My son just graduated from Virginia Tech as well.
47:59
So I'm a big fan. I go to, I would go to games 3-4
48:03
times a year, Pennsylvania, Minnesota, where I lived at any
48:05
time. So I'm living in a little bit of
48:07
their fall 2015 and 16. I went to several games,
48:12
including their big ups that went over House State.
48:14
I was in the stadium for the whiteout and all that kind of
48:16
good stuff. And so the next year they're
48:18
looking for security for at Beaver Stadium.
48:21
So I apply and I get accepted and I just want to be around
48:25
college football and I can't get to Blacksburg living in State
48:27
College very often. So I, I, I report the first day
48:32
for duty, get trained, all that kind of good stuff.
48:34
And they put me in the, in the, what's called the South end zone
48:38
in the locker room area. And because of my age and
48:41
because of what I do for a living, they said we want you to
48:44
be locker room door guy at for Penn State.
48:48
So this is a guy who who checks credentials to make sure that
48:51
only credential people is allowed to go in their very, I
48:55
would say secretive locker room. Like I couldn't even go in.
48:58
I could see in, but I couldn't even go in anyway.
49:00
So Long story short, they want somebody who's trusted, somebody
49:03
they can get to know. So I'm there and I was, I worked
49:06
the first four games. So this is going to be a funny
49:08
story, OK. I worked first four games and
49:10
got to know all the guys. And the only, the only coach
49:13
slash player in 2017 that got to remember who I was after four
49:18
games was actually a guy by the name of Deege.
49:21
Do you all know who Deege is? Yeah, that's the white.
49:25
Vault was the nicest guy by far I met and so he used to be our
49:30
strength and conditioning coach in Blacksburg obviously until
49:34
last year I think right Ferguson took over.
49:35
Anyway. So anyway, Long story short, I
49:38
would have to stay though after the games until everyone cleared
49:41
our locker room and James Franco was always the last one to
49:44
leave. So he would come out and Monica
49:46
would come out with a Monica is was a short GAO who was a
49:49
security officer. You always saw her whenever you
49:52
saw him on the field. So I got to know her a little
49:55
bit too. And but anyway, after the 4th
49:58
game though, I asked to take their next game off, which
50:02
against Indiana because Virginia Tech the same day had a huge
50:07
game. So quiz question, who was
50:09
Virginia Tech playing? I think it was the end of
50:11
September 2017. Any any guesses?
50:15
In 2017, I mean 17, if you said it was October 2017, that would
50:21
have been. September 30th.
50:22
It was like the last day of September.
50:25
I I drove the blacks because I could not meet, don't miss the
50:29
number one Clemson in Blacksburg.
50:31
So I couldn't. Miss No, No, That was October.
50:33
That was October of 20. October.
50:35
OK. October.
50:36
Of October 20, it was the last time we had game day on.
50:39
Campus. So OK, the story gets really
50:40
good now. So I go to I go to the Clemson
50:42
game. I miss my assignment to work the
50:45
lock room door there at Penn State.
50:49
And so the next game back, I go to the next game and I'm merely
50:52
assigned again in South end zone.
50:54
But now I'm not on the locker room door.
50:57
And I'm like, why is this, I wonder?
50:59
So I lost my assignment. I'm in the general area.
51:01
And if you know anything about Beaver Stadium, they have to
51:03
have security a lot around the locker room because because you
51:07
can, if you've been to Beaver, you can walk around very close
51:11
to where the locker room is. You actually can stand and watch
51:13
the team walk in and out. I mean, you're right there when
51:15
the team comes into that area. So I was like, why I I was
51:19
wondering, why did I get reassigned?
51:21
Well, my supervisor comes up to me.
51:23
This risk story gets funny. He says, listen, you got
51:26
reassigned because you went to Virginia.
51:28
Tech. And I'm like, what?
51:31
And, and he said, he said Andy Frank, now Andy Frank is a name
51:34
you're going to get to know. Andy Frank was a is the director
51:38
of football operations at Penn State currently, I guess.
51:42
Well, he might be the director of football operations, the new
51:44
role at Virginia Tech, I guess GM or whatever at Virginia Tech
51:48
with James. So when he found out I went to
51:52
Virginia Tech and I went to the game instead, he said this is
51:55
what this is how the story ends. He said, I don't want anyone
51:57
from Virginia Tech anywhere near the locker room door.
52:02
So that's what he's like. So for me, I was like, oh, so I
52:05
I stayed the rest of the season. My last game I worked was a
52:08
whiteout. It was kind of fun.
52:09
I'll end the story with this way and say I got, I said, listen,
52:12
can I just work on the field one game?
52:15
And so I worked the whiteout against Michigan and that was
52:17
the game where Saquon ran like 3 touchdowns, ran right at me and
52:21
all this kind of stuff. But, but I, I tell people all
52:24
the time, I'll finish with this. I'll tell people all the time.
52:27
I say, listen, I've been on the field for a whiteout.
52:29
I've been in the stands for a whiteout.
52:30
I worked at Beaver. I've been to 4050 games at Wayne
52:35
Stadium, Lane Stadium with 40,000 less people is louder.
52:40
And they always say they, they always say, no, that's
52:42
impossible. No, that's impossible.
52:43
I tell them it, it's not about fan support, it's not about
52:47
passion. It's simple architecture.
52:49
It's the way the stadiums are built.
52:51
Lane Stadium is louder for Anderson and then the run out
52:55
for Penn State, what they do and it's a great environment,
52:58
obviously if you ever get a chance to go.
52:59
But I wanted to share that story with you.
53:02
I offered that to Tally and I said I wanted to share that
53:05
story with you because for me, for me, you're you're probably
53:08
going to ask what I think. I was not excited about the hire
53:12
because I got to know him a little bit.
53:13
He is a very passionate guy. He is very much about James
53:16
Franklin, but he I think he's going to do a great job, Don't
53:19
get me wrong, But I, it's warming up on me.
53:23
I've been, I watched Josh Pate last night and I got really
53:27
excited after watching Pate because Pate was so excited
53:30
about this hire for us. So anyway, so that's my story.
53:33
I'll get off, let other people talk.
53:35
Let me ask you one question before I let you go here, Chris.
53:39
Since you were around State College a lot, did you ever come
53:42
across Keith Goon Conlon while you were up there?
53:46
Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah.
53:47
I mean, I didn't, I didn't meet him, but I knew of him.
53:50
Yeah. So he would have.
53:51
I think he would be on like a local television show every week
53:55
after the game on Sunday nights. I used to watch that all the
53:58
time. So but watching, you know, some
54:01
of the Penn State folks the last 24 hours or so has been
54:03
interesting. I think many of them are
54:05
actually scared and they won't say so, but they're really
54:08
worried about what what we might do in terms of taking some of
54:13
their current players and such. And their coaches too, I think.
54:17
I think they've got like a tight ends coach who they really want
54:20
to keep bad. I think he's from North Carolina
54:23
or something like that. Great recruiter here in in
54:25
Virginia. So they really want him bad.
54:27
And another thing too, you mentioned Joe Morehead.
54:29
My son played on the same baseball team with Joe
54:33
Morehead's son. So I got to know and meet Joe
54:35
Morehead too. Great guy, great offensive mind.
54:38
He'd be a great hire for an offensive coordinator, no doubt.
54:40
So anyway, yeah. Him and Ronnie did.
54:43
A small world just give you a couple stories.
54:46
Oh yeah. Well, it's crazy how small of a
54:49
world and like all the circles that you kind of come across and
54:51
things like that. So yeah.
54:52
But so. But Chris, you're not the first
54:54
person I've ever heard that say that Lane's louder than Beaver.
54:58
Oh, yeah. A girl went to college with her
55:01
parents were Penn State alums, and she'd been to both stadiums.
55:04
And I can remember her saying she's like, Lane is so much
55:07
louder. Like, she's like, I can't hear
55:09
myself think inside there. She's like a Beaver.
55:11
You can have a conversation. Like, you can't do that at Lane.
55:14
I'm like, thank you. Yeah, all those people that say
55:19
that. I could tell you some other
55:21
stories about Penn State and things like that, but I won't I
55:24
won't take of your off, but but for me, I want to share a story
55:26
and Ioffer that the tally, because for me it showed a few
55:30
things. Number one, they are extremely
55:32
loyal, devoted, both Frank and Franklin.
55:34
They really are. And I think they're going to do
55:36
a great job. They're going to be very
55:37
passionate and they're going to be very devoted to blacks for
55:40
even though they're not, you know, Virginia Tech guys, so to
55:42
speak. But they are now and I think
55:45
they're going to do a great job. So I'm warming up to it.
55:47
I really am. But anyway, just just some
55:50
stories behind the scenes a little bit.
55:54
That's all we. Appreciate it man.
55:56
No problem guys. Take care, man.
55:59
You too. Bye bye.
56:01
Look who we got next, Robbie Compton.
56:07
What's going on? Brother, how's it going?
56:09
Oh man, it's it's. A fun night, man.
56:14
It's it's going to be a couple of days I think on our side
56:17
getting getting excited about some things.
56:22
I think it's going to be a good thing.
56:24
I'm interested to see where it goes from here, what kind of
56:27
coaches he brings in, who they get in that so-called general
56:32
manager position. That's going to help him out and
56:35
break things up and we'll see how it goes.
56:38
I'm excited about what the future may hold.
56:41
Robbie, you have been in the Robbie you'd have been in the
56:44
room with a lot of coaches. Have you ever been in the room
56:46
with Franklin? Any kind of coaching?
56:49
Coaching. I heard he.
56:52
Workshops years ago at an AFCA conference when he was at
56:56
Vanderbilt. Actually, I think he he's very,
57:02
he's very passionate about what he does.
57:04
He's very passionate about the game and and teaching, teaching
57:09
young men the game in that way. And I'm sure that's only grown
57:14
over the years since then. I, I'm trying to even think of
57:18
what year that was when I saw him.
57:21
I was probably still coaching in Halifax.
57:24
So it was probably back before 2012.
57:29
So it was in the. I like his first year.
57:33
I've been his first year at Vanderbilt.
57:34
Then it might have been but he, he.
57:39
He's. A.
57:40
He's a brilliant 9 in the game and and a heck of a recruiter so
57:44
it's definitely going to be a good thing.
57:47
So let let me ask this Robbie, because you, I mean, like I got
57:51
all these names the people are mentioning names left and right.
57:56
Any assistant coaches like as you again, you've watched Penn
58:00
State, you, you your your your head football coach definitely
58:04
familiar with Penn State. Absolutely.
58:07
Is there anybody like one person out there you say if he brings
58:12
that assistant to Blacksburg, watch out.
58:15
I like, I really think Poindexter is one of the top
58:19
names that that you're going to hear here in the next several
58:22
weeks. He's got that.
58:26
He's got the ties to Virginia. It was a thing that a lot of
58:29
people threw out and wanted to try to pull off and get him out
58:32
of there. They don't, you know, in
58:34
Blacksburg before, even though he spent some time at that other
58:37
place in Virginia. That that's going to be a name
58:42
you're going to hear, I think, and I don't think that's a bad
58:46
thing at all because we're going to have good recruiting ties
58:49
around the area. I think that was a big part of
58:53
what helped bring some of those Virginia guys to Penn State as
58:56
it was. Again, like somebody had said
59:00
earlier, I think you're going to, I think of the coaches that
59:04
are still there now, I think. Coach minds will be one that
59:09
you'll continue to hear possibly sticking around.
59:12
He was a guy that, you know, he's probably got a pretty
59:16
decent relationship with Poindexter anyway.
59:21
And it it was a name that that you had heard in circles of
59:24
trying to get him to come to Penn State anyhow.
59:27
So I mean, I think their relationship is there and those
59:30
things. So I mean, I think those are
59:32
two. Names that you're going to hear
59:34
a lot about. He's probably got multiple
59:37
options of people willing to to make moves and get ready for the
59:43
offensive coordinator position, things like that.
59:46
So. It's just going to be a wait and
59:47
see game. I'm sure he's probably already
59:49
talked to more than a few people about getting things together.
59:53
So see how it falls in. Can I ask your opinion?
59:57
And, and you heard me, Mitch, I don't know if you were listening
59:59
when I talked about Ricky, Ronnie.
1:00:02
What? If you're Ricky, Ronnie, do you
1:00:04
try to stick it one more year at ODU?
1:00:07
But if James offers you the OC, double your pay, you bring
1:00:11
Colton Joseph, you run your show up at Tech, what?
1:00:15
What do you do? Because everybody's like, well,
1:00:17
that's a demotion. But I keep making the point, if
1:00:21
he still has a step back here at ODU, is he ever going to be
1:00:25
considered for the next level job?
1:00:27
Yeah, that I don't look at it as AD motion.
1:00:30
You're going from, you're going from ODU to a top end position
1:00:38
in the Power 14 and you, I mean it's more of a lateral move in
1:00:44
my mind to some ways and I know. People will have some things to
1:00:47
say about that. Well, ODU with tech this year
1:00:51
that that whatever. I mean, the bottom line is, the
1:00:55
way the system is set up, this is not a.
1:00:58
They're not on equal ground. I mean, program wise they're
1:01:04
not. But we're going, we're going
1:01:09
Straw Hat Turkey. The five of us sitting here are
1:01:12
circling this and writing it down.
1:01:15
So you better not hope Poindexter doesn't show up in
1:01:19
Blacksburg. Yeah, I mean, all right.
1:01:21
I mean, Fontelle Bynes was a big UVA guy too, but you know that
1:01:26
didn't. That didn't stop him from taking
1:01:28
the wide receiver role at Virginia Tech.
1:01:29
So. Listen carefully.
1:01:32
Money talks, business talks. We're we're in a game of
1:01:40
business. You can be from where you want
1:01:42
to be. The game talks.
1:01:45
When you got the opportunity to continue your livelihood, any
1:01:50
things you do, it's a lot different.
1:01:53
I've been a Washington fan since I could walk and talk if.
1:01:57
The Dallas Cowboys called me right now and offered me a job.
1:02:01
Or just as proud as you can see it.
1:02:05
I don't give a damn where he went to college.
1:02:08
Hey, hey, Robbie, I know we're going to let you run here in a
1:02:10
second, but I was prepared. I.
1:02:14
Go to bed, I got to teach tomorrow.
1:02:16
I know I was prepared for a Wing T offense.
1:02:19
Man, you kiss from your end. Robbie and his team made it to
1:02:24
the playoffs this year down in North Carolina. 2A and
1:02:29
unfortunately for Robbie, a Yeah, you all have 3A.
1:02:33
Yeah, unfortunately for Robbie, he had to play one of the best
1:02:37
Wing T scores. Terrible.
1:02:42
Not a fan of the Wing T? What?
1:02:44
What? What did they do to you?
1:02:47
What was? That.
1:02:48
They, they bellied us to death and and found a much smaller
1:02:55
outside backer defensive end kid that I had and they just doubled
1:03:00
him, kicked it out and rolled right under it to the point
1:03:04
where he, some of our backers decided to well, if I kind of
1:03:08
roll around the edge, maybe they won't catch me.
1:03:11
Yeah, that they creased it even more so it is what it is.
1:03:18
Got to take the licks and move on.
1:03:19
Do it again next year. Learn from it and and do
1:03:22
something different afterwards. We'll see what day I'll look at
1:03:26
my roster and see what I have left and we'll build what we
1:03:30
need to from there. There you go and you same thing.
1:03:35
We don't know when yet. In December, circle the
1:03:37
calendar, stay the program. It's going to be fun this year.
1:03:41
I'm. I'm going to be ready.
1:03:42
You going to be ready? You sure?
1:03:45
Two years ago you were way too ready.
1:03:47
Yeah. Whether or not whether I'm here
1:03:52
in Wilkesboro or whether I'm in Halifax, whatever it takes, I'm
1:03:56
going to find a way. There we go.
1:03:57
Hi, brother. The drinks will be flowing the
1:04:00
so with the curse words. It'll it'll be a good time.
1:04:03
Yeah, especially with the with the with the doctor, when he
1:04:08
comes in, we're in trouble. Oh, yeah, we're always in
1:04:11
trouble with the doctor. That's right.
1:04:13
Appreciate it. Robbie I.
1:04:14
Appreciate you guys. See you, Robbie.
1:04:19
We rolling up in here. We rolling.
1:04:22
I see a lot of people putting stuff in the chat, but they
1:04:24
don't want to come on, call them out that what's oh, there we go.
1:04:28
I think Tim wants to come on, let Brian throw that in for you.
1:04:31
Tib get you in here. Shelton, anything else you've
1:04:34
discovered while doing all of this?
1:04:38
Does he have, did you go into any like offensive, defensive
1:04:41
tendencies, things like that or are you strictly looking at more
1:04:45
games, one games loss, etcetera, etcetera?
1:04:49
Yeah, more so ladder. I mean, you could dig into the
1:04:52
film. It'd probably take forever.
1:04:53
I just don't have the time. But I will say, like I was
1:04:55
saying, you know, I think the big knock on Franklin was
1:04:57
quarterback development. You know, and again, like I
1:05:00
talked about earlier, I think that Drew Aller just it just
1:05:06
didn't really work schematically for them this year.
1:05:07
I know they had some regressions on the online that receiver.
1:05:11
You know, it's like I feel like after that organ loss team kind
1:05:13
of just, you know, didn't, I wouldn't say quit, but they kind
1:05:15
of just faded a little bit. They weren't giving as much
1:05:17
effort as probably they should have been.
1:05:20
So I think for Franklin, you know, the big thing is just, you
1:05:22
know, who he's going to surround himself with.
1:05:24
This isn't wise, especially at on the opposite side of the
1:05:26
ball. And just, you know, how can they
1:05:30
how can they get the most out of out of the quarterbacks that
1:05:32
they have? Because, you know, I think that
1:05:33
was that was a big reason, in my opinion, that was a big reason
1:05:35
that Penn State kind of struggled to win those big games
1:05:39
is that they just didn't have that high level quarterback
1:05:41
play. They were kind of, you know,
1:05:43
limited there. I think they had more kind of
1:05:44
like game manager types and so you know, but hopefully,
1:05:49
hopefully that can change and recruit a couple studies regard.
1:05:52
I mean, we've got some some some juicy looking recruits on the on
1:05:56
the trail here with with all these DE commitments and some
1:06:00
buzz about guys going to BT. So I'm excited about that.
1:06:04
Yeah, guys, we got, we got guys coming in.
1:06:08
You know, you're already seeing like those visits pop up now.
1:06:12
You know, we got really some big names in that Penn State class
1:06:16
that are you looking at Virginia Tech, you got some official
1:06:20
visits locked in. I think, you know, you're going
1:06:21
to start seeing some of those dominoes start to fall in our
1:06:25
direction. And and you know, to the point
1:06:27
that that Chris was making, I think, you know, Penn State is a
1:06:30
little bit worried about that. Obviously they've got, you know,
1:06:34
some work left to do with who they're going to bring in, who
1:06:36
they're going to hire. You know, things may shift as as
1:06:39
that kind of comes to fruition, but I know a lot of these
1:06:41
players, you know, committed to James Franklin.
1:06:45
So I think there's going to take a whole lot of of effort from
1:06:49
the new guy to to kind of keep that from happening.
1:06:53
So I think a lot of those guys are going to head towards tech.
1:06:56
Well, I want to throw this up Gray Cat through this a little
1:06:58
while ago, and I didn't again. It's tougher to follow high
1:07:02
school recruiting the days of the portal, but that's insane.
1:07:10
That's insane to have that many guys.
1:07:12
That's crazy. I mean, but it also tells you
1:07:18
potentially how he recruits and what he sells, that it's not
1:07:22
just the place, it's effectively what you're doing and what he's
1:07:26
doing. Looking back those years, kind
1:07:30
of who's been the quarterbacks, Trace Mcsorley, Sean Clifford,
1:07:34
you know, Alar, it's never been a household name, although Trace
1:07:39
Mcsorley, that was probably his best quarterback at his time at
1:07:44
Penn State. And I was talking with a guy
1:07:47
from work today and Trace Mcsorley made it as a backup for
1:07:51
about what, 7-8 years in the NFL, something like that, right?
1:07:57
And you can tell me whichever you want to tell me.
1:07:59
If you tell me the next guy and the first guy he brought in was
1:08:02
going to be a backup for 10 years in the NFL, give me that
1:08:05
guy. Because if you tell me it's a
1:08:07
backup in the NFL, then they've got something special because
1:08:11
they keep hanging around. And if they are a backup in the
1:08:13
NFL, they're likely going to be an elite college quarterback.
1:08:17
And just start thinking about who your backups are on your
1:08:20
teams. Well, maybe not Tally.
1:08:22
Sorry, Tally. I don't know who your backup is.
1:08:26
But like, for example, I'm a Niners fan, it's Matt Jones.
1:08:29
Will Levis. OK, Will Levis for wait.
1:08:32
Will Levis was one power Penn State, but that is going to be a
1:08:39
key. And the funny part is if you
1:08:41
actually think about it in his time at Penn State and then our
1:08:48
time just in the last decade we've had, and this is crazy to
1:08:54
say, would you all say that we've had just as many high
1:08:58
potential quarterbacks as he's had?
1:09:03
I mean, think about it. Is Trace Mcsoy the new LAR?
1:09:06
Is that who you put is the #2 And think about who we had
1:09:11
Jerrod Evans and then go to Hindon.
1:09:15
Yeah. Not a jump, yeah, I mean.
1:09:20
When you look at the output, I mean, they definitely, they,
1:09:23
they got something out of that. I think you know, when they've
1:09:26
had elite wide receivers, they've looked like a different,
1:09:29
different team. So you know, how much of this is
1:09:32
tied to some of the wide receiver room, things like that.
1:09:37
So that that's an interesting thing that we can look at as as
1:09:40
as recruiting starts to take shape.
1:09:41
And you know why somebody like Fontelle Mines would be a good
1:09:44
person to hang on to on that front, not not only from a
1:09:47
recruiting standpoint, but you know, from from some of the wide
1:09:50
receiver standpoint as well. Just want to throw it out there.
1:09:54
We'll probably get try to get one or two more on here before
1:09:56
we move on to to our next step here, but through AQR code up
1:10:00
there. If you want to hit hit that
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that'll let you join the stream here.
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So try to get one or two more on here before we wrap up.
1:10:11
We saw Tib in here. Tib jump in here if you want to
1:10:15
Jim I. See you in the I was hoping
1:10:17
somebody was going to hop on and tell us that this was a bad
1:10:20
hire. That's what I want to hear.
1:10:22
Yeah, the the the worst we've gotten so far is Chris being
1:10:25
cautiously optimistic. Cautiously optimistic and and if
1:10:32
and and. I just want to hear what someone
1:10:34
would say why it is. We'll give a little Sean
1:10:36
Clifford respect. I just said Sean Clifford.
1:10:38
I didn't shoot on Sean Clifford, said Sean Clifford, Jim.
1:10:41
But if if you want to say, and again, this was always my fear
1:10:46
and it still is my fear a little bit, Can he get enough talent in
1:10:49
Blacksburg to get the success he had at Penn State?
1:10:53
That is still my fear. That's why he wasn't my number
1:10:57
1. He was my number two.
1:11:01
It was can he develop? Because they're going to be to
1:11:03
me. It's like here, he's going to
1:11:06
have like 3 out of five. You're going to have to develop.
1:11:12
We're down. There was only two out of five
1:11:15
and he developed those guys and two.
1:11:19
That's all about the that's all about the staff he puts around
1:11:21
himself. It's true, number one.
1:11:23
But he takes Virginia Tech from I think what we wanted is, you
1:11:29
know, and still, you know, you got to recruit the footprint.
1:11:32
I understand that you don't forget about where you are.
1:11:35
You don't forget about Virginia, the DMV, you know, the
1:11:38
Carolinas, You don't forget about those places.
1:11:41
But like I told people from the beginning, James Franklin brings
1:11:47
a national recruiting presence to Virginia Tech.
1:11:52
They've got a four-star kid from California.
1:11:58
Crystal ball. Crystal ball to go to Virginia
1:12:00
Tech. How many times has that kid been
1:12:02
to Virginia Tech? I'm sure he's heard about it.
1:12:05
And again, that's another thing of people saying, well, Virginia
1:12:09
Tech's not a good job or Virginia Tech is nothing like
1:12:12
everybody knows what Virginia Tech is.
1:12:14
They know of Virginia Tech, but they may not know the real
1:12:18
Virginia Tech. So somebody like Franklin is
1:12:21
going to bring those names and he's going to get those visits
1:12:24
and then he's going to he's going to recruit those kids
1:12:26
because they want to play for him.
1:12:28
He's a highly intelligent guy. He he knows what to say to
1:12:34
parents, players, board of visitors, go watch when he
1:12:37
visited with them earlier today. He's just he, he's a, he's a
1:12:42
high level guy, but it's OK to be a high level guy.
1:12:45
And then you got to follow through with some of the stuff.
1:12:47
Hugh Freeze was a high level guy in the talking aspect.
1:12:50
That's what messed him up in at Auburn.
1:12:53
Everybody down here thinks he's a politician.
1:12:55
That's what he acts like now. He said the right things in in
1:12:59
living rooms and then as soon as he left, he changed the whole
1:13:04
thing up. Think about, and I don't want to
1:13:06
change the, you know, change the topic from James Franklin, but
1:13:09
think about on, on, on blue chips.
1:13:11
Was it blue chips? When my man Nick Nolte was like,
1:13:15
he going to visit the going to visit the recruits And he's
1:13:17
like, oh, are you Catholic? You know?
1:13:19
Oh, yeah, I'm Catholic too. And then he goes to the next
1:13:22
house and he goes, oh, y'all a Baptist?
1:13:24
Oh, yeah, I was raised Baptist. And he's in there clapping like
1:13:27
that's that's the kind of coach that Hugh Freeze was.
1:13:31
And it's cool to be that way to get somebody on campus, right?
1:13:34
But then when you got to live with that every day and you
1:13:36
start getting caught up in that, that's what the problem is.
1:13:40
So for what everybody says, James Franklin has been or what
1:13:43
he has not been, you haven't had people come out and say he's a
1:13:47
liar. He, he doesn't follow through
1:13:49
with things. He promises recruits.
1:13:51
He continues to recruit at a high level.
1:13:54
He was at Penn State for 12 years.
1:13:57
Was it 12 years, 13 years? So maybe you hit your peak at a
1:14:03
place and it's time to go somewhere else.
1:14:05
So again, I, I think that us as Virginia Tech fans are about to
1:14:11
see a whole nother side of recruiting that we've never
1:14:14
seen. We've never seen some of the
1:14:16
things that he's going to do in recruiting again, starting with
1:14:19
a California quarterback that hasn't been here already saying,
1:14:24
yeah, let me come get this place to look.
1:14:27
Yeah, and then you got got like Pierce Peterson from Minnesota,
1:14:30
you talk about national footprint from recruiting 4 star
1:14:34
tight end, got the offer. You threw that on Twitter.
1:14:37
I mean, this is a guy that is a Penn State commit and now all of
1:14:40
a sudden, you know, we got some motion with him at Virginia
1:14:43
Tech, so. This thing is.
1:14:45
Only going to get bigger as we get even even further into I
1:14:49
mean we're we're, you know, just over 24 hours into this cycle
1:14:52
we're. Scratching the circle.
1:14:55
Can I say something else, Brian? Yeah, go ahead.
1:14:57
I'll say something else. This is another thing too, is
1:15:00
what I was telling people, because I'm not like a, a James
1:15:05
Franklin guy. I haven't studied him and all of
1:15:07
that. I just, I'm a college football
1:15:09
fan. We are three and 17.
1:15:12
That has sucked For five years. We've been on every broadcast
1:15:19
and every news station and all analysts talking about Virginia
1:15:23
Tech, every national show, every national show, Even before he,
1:15:29
even before he was announced as coach, when everybody was mad
1:15:33
because on game day, which shouldn't even been talking
1:15:36
about a three and seven team said, well, they're in early,
1:15:39
they're in early talks, right? We knew early talks, but even
1:15:43
when they said he was in early talks, it blew up.
1:15:45
Everybody start talking about it.
1:15:47
Oh, it's going. To be a great.
1:15:48
Place Oh, I think that's going to be a good a good fit if this
1:15:52
happens. I'm telling you man, y'all
1:15:55
better buckle up. I ain't.
1:15:56
Getting no season tickets but. Hey, I ain't getting no season
1:16:00
tickets, but I'm going to call Jeremy and see if he'll let me
1:16:02
use his some of them games. The other thing is, before you
1:16:06
bring Tib on here, our boy John Earl, who I thought might Ron,
1:16:12
you figure that out? Well, let him figure it out.
1:16:15
Yeah, he's got Tib. Camera connected or at least the
1:16:18
mic. As long as you get the mic
1:16:19
connected, we can get you in here.
1:16:21
The Facebook post yesterday got 2.2 million views.
1:16:27
Twitter got 2.1 million views. It's the eyes, right?
1:16:33
You want the eyes on there? I like this, Justin.
1:16:37
They knew the truth on game day. Pat McAfee knew the truth two
1:16:40
weeks ago. Y'all.
1:16:43
Didn't watch that piece with look at what are you granted at
1:16:45
Sheldon could you? Did you see a Shelton when he
1:16:47
was talking to BA that day with the search?
1:16:51
Like Bruce told him, ain't going to be James Franklin.
1:16:53
We just got to figure out the money and all that.
1:16:56
And, and and and that is the next piece when the contract
1:17:00
comes out. Doug Bowman.
1:17:02
We know it's going to be Doug Bowman, Randy, because they're
1:17:05
doing the FOIA stuff that takes too damn long to fill out to get
1:17:08
the stuff you need. Godspeed to them.
1:17:11
The other piece over under right now, I want Ichi.
1:17:15
I'll start with Sheldon. Sheldon, I'm all set it at 8 1/2
1:17:18
over under the number of Penn State transfers in.
1:17:22
I'd say, I'd say under, I mean, I still don't know, like, you
1:17:25
know, like how how much of it is like, are they committing
1:17:29
because of Penn State or are they committing because of
1:17:31
Franklin? Obviously it's somewhere in
1:17:32
between, but we don't. Know no, no, no, no, no, no no
1:17:34
no no portal. Portal Portal transfer.
1:17:36
Portal Transfer, Portal over under 7 and a.
1:17:39
Half, yeah, I'd still, I still take the, I'd still take the
1:17:42
under. I just, yeah, there's just too
1:17:43
many on those at this point. OK, tally 7 1/2 over under
1:17:47
number of Penn State players coming to Virginia Tech.
1:17:51
I got to take the under on that too, man.
1:17:53
I mean, maybe six or seven. I think we'll get a lot of
1:17:58
Portal players, but I don't know how many come 6-7 exactly.
1:18:02
I don't know how many, you know, come from Virginia Tech, but he
1:18:06
going to be cooking. I'd say about 6 though.
1:18:11
Yeah, I'm, I'm kind of right. If you just said 6 1/2, I might
1:18:13
would have been eager to take the over there.
1:18:16
That, that extra, that extra 1 bump there.
1:18:19
I think it's going to be right at seven.
1:18:22
Yeah, it, it could be, it could flirt a little higher depending
1:18:25
on how things shake out. But I can see, like Tally said,
1:18:28
somewhere in the six to seven range being what comes over
1:18:32
mixed in with some other guys coming from other schools.
1:18:34
I mean, I think you're still going to probably see a portal
1:18:36
class in the 12 to 15 range, if not higher on top of whoever we
1:18:42
retain from this class. And then what's what's coming in
1:18:45
with this, with this current class that you know, we're
1:18:49
seeing a lot of motion on? Y'all wrong?
1:18:54
Over over. It's going to be 9 to 10. 9 to
1:18:59
10 it's. Going to be 9 to 10.
1:19:01
All right, I will. I will be happy to be proven
1:19:03
wrong on that one. Well, I mean, you start looking,
1:19:06
it's like, hey, it's a lot of Virginia kids up there that you
1:19:12
don't think he can sell that piece of come down here, come
1:19:16
home one year. Tony Rojas, Amari Campbell,
1:19:20
there's your first two names. Tony Rojas line back from up in
1:19:24
Norman, I'm pretty sure. I think that's who Dwight was
1:19:26
alluding to earlier was Tony and Campbell went from North
1:19:31
Carolina up there and Campbell's blown up.
1:19:32
Campbell might make it to the NFL if he doesn't come down, but
1:19:36
there's a lot of other guys with not Pennsylvania connections,
1:19:41
not Penn State connections, and depending on who he hires for
1:19:44
defensive coordinator in those other positions.
1:19:48
See, Jim's with me and y'all know Jim knows Penn State.
1:19:53
I think it's going to be a lot more and I think it's going to
1:19:55
be strategic too. I don't think it's just going to
1:19:57
be 10 guys who are going to play immediately next year.
1:20:00
I think he's on snipe, a couple younger kids.
1:20:03
That's where I get my over. So yeah.
1:20:06
All right, Tib can't connect. Tib did connect.
1:20:10
Oh, hang on. We got, we got motion.
1:20:12
We got motion, motion. There we go.
1:20:14
Last caller of the night. Can you hear me, Ross?
1:20:18
We got you. We.
1:20:19
Can hear you. OK.
1:20:20
So my worry is that we're going to get to Jimbo Hireright.
1:20:24
We're just throwing a lot of money at somebody who just got
1:20:26
fired and he's going to bring in a lot of recruits.
1:20:29
It's going to be good for a while that the bottom is going
1:20:33
to fall out. But like I said, this is a shot
1:20:37
saying Virginia Tech is for real, right?
1:20:40
And that's good enough for me. That and that's the main thing.
1:20:45
I mean I that's a legit concern. So I totally understand where
1:20:48
you coming from when you say that, but it's just like this,
1:20:53
like I talked to somebody when you go to just say the
1:20:55
basketball, right, It sucked when buzz came and then he he
1:21:00
dipped, right. It sucked when he came and
1:21:02
dipped. But would you give away what he
1:21:04
did when he was here, you know, going to the tournament, the
1:21:07
long run that he had? No, you got to have that because
1:21:10
at the place we're at right now, we don't know when that we don't
1:21:14
know when that that realignment is coming, but we know it's
1:21:17
coming, right? We know that things are
1:21:19
happening like that. You don't want to be left out.
1:21:22
And before we before we got this big name coach, we and all
1:21:28
intents and purposes would have been left out of any kind of
1:21:31
realignment. Now at least we get our name
1:21:34
thrown in there because that's a James Franklin LED team.
1:21:37
So for him to leave here for the most part, he's going to have to
1:21:42
either do something really good or really bad.
1:21:44
So if he does something. Really great.
1:21:46
He was fired, bro. He was.
1:21:47
He was ready to be fired. Come on.
1:21:50
Say what now? See you.
1:21:52
Oh yeah. I wouldn't even I wouldn't even
1:21:54
live near myself right. That's.
1:21:56
You bro, but I'm I'm, I'm going to change the subject right now.
1:22:00
Yeah, go ahead, give a shout out to to Good guy Pry because he
1:22:03
get to sabotage this whole thing.
1:22:06
But he didn't. So he has a lot of money out
1:22:10
there. So it would have been hard to
1:22:12
sabotage. A lot of money's been thrown in
1:22:14
there. I know Penn State had to give
1:22:16
him 9 million. I don't even know what we give
1:22:18
him yet. But but you are you are right,
1:22:21
Tib, that he could have been like, don't go there, it's a
1:22:23
shit show, yadda, yadda. And I know nine and a half,
1:22:26
$1,000,000 is a lot of money. But remember, if he didn't take
1:22:29
the 9 1/2 or 10 1/2, whatever, again, we'll find out soon.
1:22:34
He was getting a shit ton of money from Penn State.
1:22:37
So either way, So if, if, like you said, if Pry had made the
1:22:42
point of just shitting on it, which I don't think he would,
1:22:45
because I think Pry truly wants to see the program do good.
1:22:49
I I really do. I think if you talk to him, you,
1:22:51
you feel that from his voice. So yeah, I, I and and it would,
1:22:58
it, would it shock anybody if Brent Prize doing something not
1:23:01
on the field, but in the film room, in the locker room next
1:23:06
year? No.
1:23:07
So what's the responsibilities for a general manager under
1:23:10
under Franklin? That's Franklin's going to take
1:23:14
care of the roster. So what?
1:23:16
No Andy Frank? Andy Frank's been his personnel
1:23:19
guy for years. And was it Justin that said it?
1:23:23
Did Justin say? It hello is.
1:23:24
Chris, Chris said a little while ago he thinks Andy Frank's
1:23:28
coming, OK And Andy Frank has been his personnel guy.
1:23:31
Let me let me effort it here real.
1:23:34
He's been for a couple years now.
1:23:36
Shelton, if you know by chance, because I know you know things
1:23:39
Andy Frank's been up there with for 12 years.
1:23:43
To answer the question though, Tia, but I was, I was thinking
1:23:45
about that too. And for what I gathered, I could
1:23:48
be totally wrong. The AD does handle the athletic
1:23:51
department right. But when you have a general
1:23:53
manager of like football, they're going to handle more of
1:23:57
the football aspect of that athletic department.
1:24:01
You know, they probably will have to answer to AAD, but
1:24:04
everything that handled that goes with football is going to
1:24:07
go through that general manager. I think that's the the way that
1:24:10
that position is is titled and runs.
1:24:16
Yeah. And and that's the things
1:24:17
probably over the next month that we're going to find out,
1:24:21
we're going to find out the staff, we're going to find out
1:24:23
the structure of how the GM is going to be set up.
1:24:26
That's going to be the interesting piece.
1:24:28
The portal, obviously the portal obviously what flips recruiting
1:24:32
because we're 3-3 weeks away, right?
1:24:36
We're three weeks away from National Signing Day.
1:24:39
Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, man, what what else
1:24:44
you got for us, Ted? Before we I'll just say this.
1:24:48
I don't think the Penn State football program should exist.
1:24:51
And I think if Franklin is a vindictive motherfucker, I think
1:24:57
he should just go scorched earth, do whatever he can, you
1:25:01
know, destroy their recruiting class, take their coaches.
1:25:05
He might, he might. I mean, let's do it.
1:25:08
Guy was there for 14 years and what did he really do bad there?
1:25:13
Had a had a couple losses this year.
1:25:16
Not beat Ohio State, ever. He beat him, but he did.
1:25:19
No, he beat. Him, he beat him.
1:25:21
He did. He didn't beat him.
1:25:22
He didn't beat him as consistently as.
1:25:24
He has as many victories against Ohio State as Frank Beaver does.
1:25:28
True. Yeah, true.
1:25:29
True. Fair.
1:25:31
All right, Tim, appreciate you getting on with us at the last
1:25:34
second here. We'll see you in the future.
1:25:36
All right, have a good one fellas.
1:25:38
All right, man. Thank you all.
1:25:41
Righty. All right, So Miami, huh?
1:25:45
I. I don't know what we're going to
1:25:48
do. Who knows, he might be going
1:25:50
through the locker room this week saying Pat guys on the
1:25:53
back, if you get 2 patches, staying, if you get 1 patch, you
1:25:56
know you don't. Hey.
1:26:02
We got JV and Robinson coming in now as of two hours ago.
1:26:07
He's going to be at the game Saturday. 4 star wide receiver
1:26:12
out of PA. So shit's happening guys.
1:26:18
So I mean, it's it's going to be an interesting game because of
1:26:22
the recruits that are going to be there and the recruits that
1:26:24
are going to be there that weren't even like on our radar.
1:26:28
You know. 36 hours ago, whatever it was, oh, we got, we got one
1:26:32
more. We got one.
1:26:33
More. Oh.
1:26:33
He jumped off. Hey, you going to come?
1:26:35
Back, Mr. Hokey. But here's the crazy part,
1:26:39
though. Normally stuff like that on game
1:26:43
day, Shelton, you were down there for years.
1:26:46
Usually the coach is running around like a chain with head
1:26:48
cut off. That's what James Franklin gets
1:26:51
to do Saturday. He gets to Gladys.
1:26:54
Sail, sail. Sail.
1:26:56
Sail, sail. That's a huge benefit to getting
1:27:02
this locked in this week he gets now obviously with all these
1:27:06
kids coming, he's will get to glad hand sell the program as he
1:27:09
does Mr. Hokey. I'm going to let I'm going to
1:27:12
give you 30 seconds to come in if you don't.
1:27:15
We got to move to big screeners. Although should we?
1:27:18
By the way, are y'all giving us any chance this weekend?
1:27:22
No. No, no, no.
1:27:25
OK. I think they'll, I think they'll
1:27:27
cover, but they're not going to win.
1:27:29
What's the spread right now? Was it 14?
1:27:31
And. A half 17 1/2.
1:27:34
I thought that was too much. Way too much.
1:27:37
They watched the Florida State game and they was like, yeah,
1:27:39
they're going to be by 20. Yeah, but the Florida State,
1:27:43
that was them, that was us. Well, two our credit 4th down,
1:27:47
down what 10 decided to go for it at the 30 yard line.
1:27:52
Yeah. Like.
1:27:54
That's that's the ones that hurt because you know, it's like this
1:27:56
was really a 10 point game. Well, that, that's awful.
1:27:59
I mean, obviously you can look at the turnovers as being
1:28:01
probably the biggest difference in the game.
1:28:06
Yeah, there there was miscues throughout the game, but I mean,
1:28:09
the, the turnovers themselves were probably the biggest.
1:28:13
When you look at the the way the game played out, you look at you
1:28:16
look at all the, the, the, the culmination of everything.
1:28:19
If you don't turn the ball over like you did, you probably are
1:28:21
at least making that a giving yourself a chance at the end
1:28:25
versus it being, you know, the lopsided victory that it was.
1:28:29
Yeah, but before we do big strainers because your 30
1:28:32
seconds is up Mr. Hokey for y'all assistance, do y'all have
1:28:39
one, one or two in mile that you say go get that guy.
1:28:43
Dex. Dex.
1:28:45
Why didn't nobody say Jim knows? We tried like hella.
1:28:51
We, we, we, we were on that wagon too long.
1:28:53
We we're, we're off of it now. Nobody wants to say Jim knows he
1:28:57
won't follow him, but. Maybe we tried him like hell
1:29:03
last year. You got anybody?
1:29:06
I don't, I don't think Dex is coming, but I just I want to
1:29:10
know what they're going to do with this offensive line.
1:29:13
Like, I watched so much bad offensive line play and then I
1:29:15
can kind of see some good stuff that Moore is doing.
1:29:19
I'm going to be interested to see who he brings or does he
1:29:23
give him a chance or what route they go with the offensive line.
1:29:26
I have no idea what they're going to do, but that's what I'm
1:29:29
more probably looking at than than anything.
1:29:33
Offensive line coach all. Right offensive line coach
1:29:40
Shelton, you got anybody? No, honestly.
1:29:45
No, I'll throw a name out there. What about Coach Chaos?
1:29:53
I've seen somebody else throwing it out there.
1:29:56
That was a name that we we heard a lot this past offseason.
1:30:00
We heard a lot about it. It clears there's a connect.
1:30:03
Well we don't know if it's lies or not.
1:30:05
It's like some it's like you saying well I'm going to go work
1:30:07
for this company and then the other company next door to them
1:30:10
says we will give you 30,000 more.
1:30:12
Oh OK man fuck them. I'm coming to y'all, I'm just.
1:30:14
Going to stay here. He was a.
1:30:16
He was an elite recruiter though.
1:30:17
He is an elite recruiter and and the Ricky thing is, I mean, you,
1:30:22
you feel like either him or Morehead's probably going to be
1:30:25
it. I don't, I don't think he's
1:30:27
going to take a risk with an up and Comer or a Soraka or a
1:30:32
Mightier check. I think I think it's going to be
1:30:36
one of those two. I think it's going to be a
1:30:38
highly experienced guy. He.
1:30:39
Wants he wants to home run it out the gate.
1:30:41
If it ends up not working, he can always roll the dice later,
1:30:44
but. Can you know run?
1:30:45
It out the gate. And we know with him, he is not
1:30:48
afraid to fire offensive coordinators.
1:30:53
To his credit, if it don't work, he's getting.
1:30:55
That shit either get promoted or fired.
1:30:57
There's no middle. There ain't no middle.
1:31:01
All righty, let's go real quick. Let's make some picks.
1:31:07
Cali. You going to do it, man?
1:31:09
Come on, keep going. I got to, I got to keep hitting
1:31:12
them right. Keep in them.
1:31:14
If you've been making bets the last like month with Cali, you
1:31:17
was probably up a couple $100 because he has went from like 7
1:31:21
or 8 games under to only four games under.
1:31:24
He's been rolling. Shelton took a slight step back
1:31:27
last week. I didn't go over again.
1:31:31
I'm out of the cellar. You're out of the cellar, Damn
1:31:33
you. So lot of lot of good games this
1:31:37
weekend. We got one curveball.
1:31:39
I wouldn't say curveball, but a little Commonwealth clash here
1:31:42
on the board. But let's start it out, Brian.
1:31:45
We are going with my pick, Nebraska, Penn State and I
1:31:50
switched up on this one. But then I decided neither one
1:31:54
of these teams can win by 4 and by 9 1/2 points.
1:31:58
I'm more interested to see how Penn State plays this week.
1:32:01
They still can get bowl eligibility.
1:32:04
But with that being said, give me Big Red. 9 1/2 is way too
1:32:08
much to lay Sheldon. Who you got?
1:32:13
Yes. Well, I'd have to look at who I
1:32:16
selected. That would be the first thing.
1:32:19
Yeah, I took, I took Nebraska. I I don't think Penn State is as
1:32:23
bad as people think. I've had, I think I've had some
1:32:25
really bad luck this year, but none and half seems like a lot.
1:32:29
I think Nebraska will will do well to to cover that.
1:32:34
Sally. Penn State, they mad because we
1:32:38
got their coach. They have to prove point.
1:32:42
They're going to prove a point. All right, all.
1:32:44
Right, they will not be a point. I, I, I think they're going to
1:32:47
prove the point that they win. I don't think they're going to
1:32:49
prove a point by winning by more than 9 1/2 so.
1:32:51
I will take Nebraska. There we go.
1:32:55
Who's next? Tally.
1:32:59
Good 10. OK, so I got the Georgia Tech
1:33:03
pick game. This is the one Narduzi said
1:33:05
matters, right? Yep.
1:33:07
So Georgia Tech's going to win this game.
1:33:13
I'm getting on with it by more than three points.
1:33:15
Yeah, I'm Rod. I'm Rod with that big time
1:33:17
because Narduzzi, I think, put his fucking foot in his mouth
1:33:20
way too many times. And I think Georgia Tech's going
1:33:23
to win this by at least a touchdown.
1:33:27
Georgia. Tech by more than two and a
1:33:29
half, by more than a touchdown. Everything.
1:33:31
The wheels fell off last week. Depression quarterback it, and
1:33:35
in Atlanta it's going to look even worse.
1:33:39
Yeah, So Georgia Tech for me is the opposite of Penn State.
1:33:42
I think that they are not as good as people think that they
1:33:45
are based on how they played in some of their games this year.
1:33:48
That being said, I did take Georgia Tech by a hair.
1:33:50
I do think it'll be a very close game, but Georgia Tech will win
1:33:54
by the skin of their teeth. I I I imagine.
1:33:58
All right, Shelton with the Commonwealth clash.
1:34:03
The Commonwealth clash been a major topic of discussion in the
1:34:06
office this week. One of the biggest games in the
1:34:08
FCS? Not actually, but at least from
1:34:11
our perspective. So Will and Mary, big game for
1:34:14
them. They need to win this game in
1:34:17
order to stay in contingent for the FCS playoffs, so it is
1:34:21
effectively a must win situation for them.
1:34:24
I will take the home team Will and Mary.
1:34:25
I've got them covering 8 1/2 and beating the the Spiders.
1:34:29
Tally. I chose William and Mary because
1:34:33
Shelton chosen and I don't know anything about neither one of
1:34:36
those teams. I'm riding with William and
1:34:41
Mary. I think they're going to make a
1:34:42
statement in this one. You keep on track to make the
1:34:46
playoff. I think it's going to be a big
1:34:47
game for them. They're at home.
1:34:49
They'll they're going to take care of business.
1:34:54
My father-in-law went to U of R so I'm against you Sheldon on
1:34:59
this. I think I'll let William and
1:35:00
Mary win, but the the spiders will cover.
1:35:05
I'm realizing in hindsight I should have went with the with
1:35:07
the red logo instead of the blue logo on this one.
1:35:10
Oh, that's fine. Yeah, looks great.
1:35:12
Thanks for getting the the the women very logo right that that
1:35:15
would be a a big celebration in the office.
1:35:17
Because we've asked him. We've got some some that just
1:35:20
look very similar that aren't the current logo.
1:35:22
So you got it, you got it right. So Congrats to Brian for there.
1:35:25
There we go. There we go.
1:35:27
All right. Brian, you got the last one.
1:35:29
You got the big one, man. Last one, man, the USC Oregon,
1:35:34
this is an interesting match up. I, I, I, I think when I looked
1:35:39
at the 10 1/2, I was a little wary going this way, but
1:35:43
ultimately I'm going to pick the Ducks in this one.
1:35:45
I think they're going to take care of business.
1:35:50
USD has burned me once with the big number this year.
1:35:55
I don't think they're going to burn me twice.
1:35:56
I'm not saying they're going to win this game, but I think just
1:35:59
10 1/2 is too much to lay USC. These are both good teams.
1:36:03
I think it's a lot tighter than this, so I'll take the 10 1/2
1:36:07
points at the zoo for the Trojans there.
1:36:11
We go, Sheldon. Yeah, now that I really think
1:36:14
about it, you'll see. Probably a smarter pick, but I
1:36:17
picked Oregon so I'm just going to roll with it.
1:36:20
Sheldon said Fade Curtis is still in play.
1:36:24
Oh, Curtis picked that. Up Exactly, exactly my thought
1:36:27
saying Curtis picked USC said I'm going the opposite way
1:36:32
buddy, give me order. There we go.
1:36:36
So there are the big screeners for this week.
1:36:42
Going to be fun. Fun weekend ahead, Fun night
1:36:46
tonight for everybody who has been here listening.
1:36:50
By the way, do you see Mike London around the office?
1:36:53
Shelton. I have not seen him around the
1:36:57
office because the football building is separate, but I've
1:37:00
had a couple of interactions with him.
1:37:01
He is a super, super nice guy. Like not like not a
1:37:04
stereotypical like, you know, gruff old guy football coach.
1:37:07
Like he's super personable and friendly.
1:37:09
So I I love him. Very cool, I've always heard
1:37:13
that about him too. He's always.
1:37:14
A good guy. I met him back when I coached at
1:37:16
Tucker. He came by the building a couple
1:37:17
times. So yeah, he's a, he's a good
1:37:19
guy, man. Nights, all right, again, it has
1:37:23
been a fun night. Chad has been a fun night.
1:37:25
Everybody that jumped on with us, we really appreciate it.
1:37:29
Y'all, you know, it's been fun. It's we, we, we got where we
1:37:34
wanted to be. We got before Thanksgiving where
1:37:36
we wanted to be. Basketball's 4 and up.
1:37:40
Basketball's looking good. Basketball's got a game tomorrow
1:37:44
night and then they head to the Bahamas, find out a lot about
1:37:47
the team next week. I don't know where Phil is.
1:37:50
I told Phil to come on tonight. Phil is going to be heading to
1:37:53
the Bahamas for that tournament. I mean so maybe live check in?
1:37:58
So he's gonna have a good he needs to do.
1:38:00
Yeah, he needs to get on there, do some live streaming from.
1:38:03
We'll see. We'll see.
1:38:05
We can get enough Internet to do that.
1:38:07
Oh, he should be. He's gonna get a resort man.
1:38:09
All right. Anything else?
1:38:11
Did anybody else commit to coming this weekend in the last
1:38:13
10 minutes? I've been kind of, you know.
1:38:16
Monitoring. Monitored around here, I haven't
1:38:18
seen any other names that I haven't like tried to throw it
1:38:20
on here while we're while we're going live, but yeah all.
1:38:24
Right. Well, let's wrap it up.
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