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Newstalk 1010: Jerry Agar Show - Party for Two with Jon Liedtke - Sept. 10, 2024 · Kvetch & Release

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  Speaker 1: Let's get this party started. I love party. We're having
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  Speaker 1: a big party.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for being along and joining me at the party table.
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  Speaker 2: Radio and podcast host at c k l W A
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  Speaker 2: eight hundred in Windsor, John Lightke.
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning, Jerry. How you doing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm well, you know, do I say your last name correctly?
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  Speaker 1: It's lid Key. But I'm not gonna drive up all
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  Speaker 1: the way to the four one to Toronto and get
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  Speaker 1: out at you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I might come through Windsor someday and you'll
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  Speaker 2: be waiting for me.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm worried about. There you go, that's the issue.
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  Speaker 1: For sure. You can't.
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  Speaker 2: You'll ask Melissa or Kakook tell me when he's coming.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we call her the General.
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  Speaker 2: I know you do, General Schultz. All right, So former
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  Speaker 2: Bank of Canada Governor Mark Karney joining the Liberal Party
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  Speaker 2: as a special advisor. I look at this and think, uh,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, justin do you want to let the
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  Speaker 2: fox into the henhouse.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just laughing and laughing and laughing at all of this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, is this the session training? We could hit
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  Speaker 1: up HBO and try to get some advice from Brian Cox,
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  Speaker 1: But you know, I look at this and I just
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  Speaker 1: wonder you Already Pier pauliev is coming out and attacking
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  Speaker 1: Mark Karney and saying he's going to sell out Canada
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  Speaker 1: and destroy the resource sector, and it's like you had
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  Speaker 1: to have expected that this is what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 1: The guy is the former governor of the Bank of Canada,
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  Speaker 1: the former governor of the Bank of England. He's as
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  Speaker 1: elitist as you could get. To me. This is like
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  Speaker 1: a hot night through hot butter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't know that he would succeed should
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  Speaker 2: he become the new leader of the Liberal Party. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know why he'd want to be involved if he isn't.
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  Speaker 2: He has the name recognition and the haft maybe, but
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  Speaker 2: I don't know that he can galvanize the public. I
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  Speaker 2: was talking to John Moore about this this morning. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he just I don't know, he doesn't seem to light
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  Speaker 2: it up. I get why people thought Trudeau was all
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  Speaker 2: bright and new and shining, hip and young and our
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  Speaker 2: version of JFK, you know, that kind of thing. They've
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  Speaker 2: soured on him now. But I don't know that that
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  Speaker 2: kind of vision is going to come with if the
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  Speaker 2: message is being put forth by Mark Karney. But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: it'd be interesting to see there's a long time apparently
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  Speaker 2: till the election, and in fact saying that do you agree?
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  Speaker 2: People are now looking at something that I said and
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  Speaker 2: people laughed at off and now I'm starting to see
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  Speaker 2: articles about it. And that is what difference does it
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  Speaker 2: make that jug Neat saying is saying he's tearing up
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  Speaker 2: his agreement to support the Liberals because you've got the
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  Speaker 2: block who have more MPs than the NDP does and
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  Speaker 2: the block I think is already angling, Hey, what can
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  Speaker 2: we get for Quebec.
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  Speaker 1: It's clear that we are approaching an election. We are
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  Speaker 1: in the midst of silly season right now. This is
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  Speaker 1: a there's a lack of substance to what jug Meets
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  Speaker 1: Singh has done. We all know that he's not going
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  Speaker 1: to actually vote non confidence and trigger an election until
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  Speaker 1: at least February of next year or when he becomes
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  Speaker 1: eligible for his pension. Absolutely, I mean the block here
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  Speaker 1: is angling and saying, look, we'll be able to get
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  Speaker 1: a few things for ourselves here. And what benefit is
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  Speaker 1: it to judge meet Thing to have given up any
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  Speaker 1: of the power except to maybe distance himself. If you're
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  Speaker 1: the Prime Minister Trudeau and you're looking at a willing
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  Speaker 1: dance partner in the block, why not throw them a
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  Speaker 1: couple extra one hundred million dollars and make sure that
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  Speaker 1: you have senstability until you're ready to go to the election.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I don't think that would be tough for
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  Speaker 2: Justin Trudeau to do either, because I think we've seen
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  Speaker 2: indications of where he's favorable to Quebec anyway exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is the guy who is relying on
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  Speaker 1: a strong Quebec vote.
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  Speaker 2: Now, we do have some by elections coming up. It's
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  Speaker 2: actually Monday the sixteenth, and this report from the Star
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  Speaker 2: ahead of a highly contested by election in Montreal and
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  Speaker 2: NDP candidates leaflet is illustrating the stark division in Canadian
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  Speaker 2: politics over the war in Gaza. And this is a
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  Speaker 2: guy named Craig Salvey. He's running in one of the
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  Speaker 2: ridings in Montreal and he was the city council. But
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  Speaker 2: he's putting out material that shows himself with a Palestinian flag.
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  Speaker 2: First of all, what's that got to do with the
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  Speaker 2: Canadian politics? And secondly, I think a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: are going to look at this and say you pick
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  Speaker 2: the Hamas side of the debate.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's very revealing right now when you look
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  Speaker 1: at leftist and MDP and traditional union type groups and
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  Speaker 1: they're launching themselves and wrapping themselves around this issue right now. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: Canadian support for the Palestinian cause, if you will, as
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  Speaker 1: roughly around the same levels as the NDP are nationally.
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  Speaker 1: So just from a political perspective, I don't see the
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  Speaker 1: benefit to it now. I can't speak directly to how
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  Speaker 1: the electoral politics and those specific by elections are, but
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  Speaker 1: if you look at how things are going more nationally
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  Speaker 1: in terms of this issue, Canadians don't seem to want
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  Speaker 1: to focus on this. Canadians want to focus on their
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  Speaker 1: pocket books. They want to focus on their economic prospects
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  Speaker 1: or an employment, not something that is six thousand miles
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  Speaker 1: away on the other side of the world. That quake
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  Speaker 1: frankly doesn't have much bearing on our domestic politics. So
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  Speaker 1: I think it's poor political posturing. But you know, we'll
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  Speaker 1: see how it goes for them. But I think it's
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  Speaker 1: the kind of thing that you're not able to walk
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  Speaker 1: away from.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well it seems racist to me as well, anti jew,
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  Speaker 2: but that's never been a problem in the NDP. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 2: I was talking with people a little earlier. Some agreed
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  Speaker 2: with me, some did not. Australia is looking at an
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  Speaker 2: age limit for the use of social media. My position,
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  Speaker 2: maybe John, you'll disagree with me, but my position was,
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  Speaker 2: you pass a law when that law has a reasonable
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  Speaker 2: chance of being effective. I don't see that this law
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  Speaker 2: would do that. So it's going to have to come
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  Speaker 2: down to parenting because keeping kids off anything on the
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  Speaker 2: internet seems impossible to me, and just passing a law
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  Speaker 2: and shaking a finger and saying, hey, you're only fourteen,
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  Speaker 2: you can't use TikTok, whatever comes down to.
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  Speaker 1: I mean what you said right as enforcement, how are
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  Speaker 1: you going to actually police and ensure that they are
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  Speaker 1: not using it when they're not allowed to be. Are
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  Speaker 1: you going to mandate the use of government identification to
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  Speaker 1: be able to create a social media account to be
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  Speaker 1: able to log in? Are we going to use the
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  Speaker 1: camera to verify who the person is and use some
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  Speaker 1: artificial intelligence and algorithms. I mean, this is the same
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  Speaker 1: debate that it comes down to when you have a
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  Speaker 1: right leaning politicians that say let's go band pornography online
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  Speaker 1: or create an age limit where you can access it.
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  Speaker 1: How the heck do you have a government bureaucracy big
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  Speaker 1: enough to be able to deal with that while also
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  Speaker 1: purporting to be living in a freedom ography.
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  Speaker 2: I've told this story before, I'm going to tell a
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  Speaker 2: real short version of it. There was a school board
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  Speaker 2: in Raleigh, North Carolina, where I first started doing talk radio,
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  Speaker 2: and they were concerned, as they should be, about kids
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  Speaker 2: access and accessing porn on school computers. So they bought
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  Speaker 2: this really expensive software. And then somebody contacted me and said,
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  Speaker 2: it's not going to do anything, and so I did
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  Speaker 2: an experiment on air. I had young guys, high school
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  Speaker 2: age guys apply to be a part of this, and
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  Speaker 2: they had to bring a parent with them in order
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  Speaker 2: to do this. But we set computers up, we put
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  Speaker 2: the very software the school system had purchased on the computers,
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  Speaker 2: and then we came up with the We came up
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  Speaker 2: with the name of a porn site and the and
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  Speaker 2: that's why the parents had to be there. And the
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  Speaker 2: objective live on the show was to get through the
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  Speaker 2: software that the education people had spent like one hundreds
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  Speaker 2: of thousands of dollars on or something and get to
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  Speaker 2: the porn site and we would see if they could
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  Speaker 2: do it in the course of the show. So we
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  Speaker 2: set the show up. I did it right off the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: I introduced the whole setup like this and then said
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  Speaker 2: go And then I said, all right, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: do other topics, but throughout the course of the show,
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  Speaker 2: we'll be checking in and see how And one of
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  Speaker 2: them went got it. That's how long it took. And
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  Speaker 2: here's the issue. If that one guy can do it,
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  Speaker 2: believe me, he shows the rest of them how to
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  Speaker 2: do it.
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  Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, I mean listen, I mean teenage boys are
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  Speaker 1: going to be teenage boys. Kids are going to be kids,
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  Speaker 1: and they're always going to be one step ahead of
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  Speaker 1: the smartest middle aged people who try to put in
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  Speaker 1: a circumventory software as a block things. Kids are gonna
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  Speaker 1: be kids and they're always going to be smarter than
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  Speaker 1: middle aged people to older people. That's just the way
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  Speaker 1: it goes with new tech. So stop trying to overpolice
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  Speaker 1: it and let parents be parents. And you know, if
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  Speaker 1: there needs to be more education through our schooling system
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  Speaker 1: than do something like that. But let's not go and
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  Speaker 1: police the internet.
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  Speaker 2: I think what we're dealing with here as nice gentleman
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  Speaker 2: who called me, and he and I debated it pretty aggressively.
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  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. I think what a lot of
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  Speaker 2: a lot of parents don't want to sit their kids
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  Speaker 2: down and talk about how what happens in porn and
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  Speaker 2: why it's not real life. That's an uncomfortable conversation with
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  Speaker 2: your teenage son and daughter. But right it comes down
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  Speaker 2: to the world is what the world is, and those
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  Speaker 2: are conversations you're going to have to have.
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  Speaker 1: Jerry. I'm driving up to Toronto right now, to London
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  Speaker 1: right now with my father is sitting next to me,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm uncomfortable having this conversation with you. You're working
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  Speaker 1: to do it quite so. Yeah, nobody wants to have
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  Speaker 1: those types of conversation with a loved one. But like
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  Speaker 1: it's the birds and the bees, we live in this
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  Speaker 1: reality and let's start to deal with the actuality of
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  Speaker 1: where we're at, rather than lofty, idealized legislation that quite
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  Speaker 1: frankly isn't enforceable. And I don't think you want the
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  Speaker 1: government regulator showing up to your door and knocking on
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  Speaker 1: it and going, hey, let me see the porn site
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  Speaker 1: you've been going to Hey, let me make sure you're
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  Speaker 1: not logging into your social media. Nobody wants that. Keep
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  Speaker 1: the government as far away from my house as possible.
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  Speaker 2: Please all right, John Lidke, Radio and podcast hosts at
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  Speaker 2: KLWAM eight hundred in Windsor.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks very much, always a pleasure.