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How will ESPN's broadcast look in the future, Does Bama need a new coach, Peyton to the Colts? · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The Volume. What is going on, my people? How are
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: we doing? John Middlecoff, Three Now Podcast. Hopefully you're doing well.
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  Speaker 1: Enjoying life. Enjoying... NBA started today. We got the World Series. Tampa. Milwaukee.
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  Speaker 1: Not exactly Dodgers-Yankees, but hey, those teams are better. No
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  Speaker 1: shot of it. They both beat the Dodgers and Yankees,
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  Speaker 1: but I'd just rather have the Dodgers and Yankees for
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  Speaker 1: my own entertainment. But I do appreciate this Milwaukee team,
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: and I do appreciate Tampa as well. I mean, they
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  Speaker 1: spend no money and they kick ass. But today's about football,
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  Speaker 1: and we're going to do a mailbag. At John Middlecoff
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  Speaker 1: is the Instagram. Massive mailbag. We had a bunch of questions.
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  Speaker 1: A little slower day. I'm like, you know what? Let's
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  Speaker 1: just bang out a ton of questions. We had a
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  Speaker 1: lot going on Peyton Manning rumors to Troy Aikman to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's always a question or two about the Chargers. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're just going to take some questions, and that'll be
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  Speaker 1: Let's just dive into the bag. Question for the bag. Rams,
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  Speaker 1: they just cut a kicker that looks like Peter Griffin.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great line. For a practice squad kicker that
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  Speaker 1: lasted less than a week, any chance we see Justin
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  Speaker 1: Tucker again or is the league done with him? Well,
• 2:06
  Speaker 1: he was not playing well, if I remember correctly. Was
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  Speaker 1: missing a lot of kicks at the end. And then
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  Speaker 1: the situation, all the allegations that came out against him.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's more that as a kicker gets older,
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  Speaker 1: And it's like a pitcher that can't throw strikes, a
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  Speaker 1: golfer that has the yips. People just lost confidence in
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  Speaker 1: the player. And then every single year, there are a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of guys that come into the league that are
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  Speaker 1: on practice squads. I mean, you watch college football. Ole
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  Speaker 1: Miss has a great kicker. Oklahoma has a good kicker.
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  Speaker 1: There are four or five teams in college with just
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  Speaker 1: excellent kickers, guys that will be in the mix to
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  Speaker 1: be like All-Americans. Well, a lot of those guys will
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  Speaker 1: just come in and be scattered on different practice squads.
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  Speaker 1: And then when you're on a team like the Rams
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  Speaker 1: and you need a kicker, again, I can't get over it.
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  Speaker 1: I get it. He was in the SEC. But you
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  Speaker 1: can't have a coach with a six-pack and a kicker
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  Speaker 1: that looks like he drinks a six-pack a day. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that was just an embarrassment. You can't be 5'11, 250
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  Speaker 1: and be a kicker in the NFL. Like, it's just
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  Speaker 1: not going to happen. There is the occasional guy who's
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  Speaker 1: just a real, real fat baseball player. But it's still
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  Speaker 1: pretty rare. Like, I was watching, what game? Oh, it
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  Speaker 1: would have been the Brewers. They were, must have been
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  Speaker 1: like game two or game three. And one of their
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  Speaker 1: guys was coming out to talk with Jeter, Poppy, and A-Rod.
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  Speaker 1: And he was just jacked. Looked like a defensive back.
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  Speaker 1: Look like a safety. And you're like, I need my
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  Speaker 1: guys to be athletes. Like, I understand you're the kicker.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not holding you to the same level of fitness
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  Speaker 1: as like Miles Garrett or Puka Nakua. But you can't
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  Speaker 1: weigh 250 pounds and not be six feet tall. And
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  Speaker 1: just be like, honestly, that's... That's a pretty big red
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  Speaker 1: flag from Les Snead and Sean McVay. Are you guys
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  Speaker 1: not even trying? Like, do you guys care that little
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  Speaker 1: about special teams? And Sean definitely does. I think he
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  Speaker 1: despises special teams. Everything about it, the kicking, the punting,
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  Speaker 1: the scheme that goes into it, hates it. which again,
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  Speaker 1: I also think it's kind of stupid. I think most
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  Speaker 1: people have some level of like, this is kind of dumb,
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  Speaker 1: but it is part of the game. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't love putting, but you're not going to shoot a
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  Speaker 1: good score if you can't putt. I don't give a
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  Speaker 1: shit how great you are up the tee. I don't
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  Speaker 1: care how great of an iron player you are. It's
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  Speaker 1: just part of the deal, you know? So covering kicks, kicking,
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  Speaker 1: you know, kicking field goals, punting, covering punts. Like, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's not as important as quarterback play, but it's pretty
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  Speaker 1: fucking important, especially when you suck as bad as they
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  Speaker 1: have for years. I just think he despises it. I
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  Speaker 1: think he can't take it seriously no matter how hard
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  Speaker 1: he tries. This was just a screenshot. Record when the
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  Speaker 1: defense allows 30 plus points the last 10 games. Josh Allen, 9-1.
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  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, 5-5. Patrick Mahomes, 3-7. And Joseph Burrow, 0-10.
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  Speaker 1: And he just said kind of nuts. I do think
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to Josh, like Lamar and Patrick, kind
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  Speaker 1: of become accustomed to have Mike McDonald, Jesse Minter, Spagnola.
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  Speaker 1: We're going into games. I feel pretty good about the
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  Speaker 1: other side of the ball. When I'm drinking Gatorade on
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  Speaker 1: the sideline, hanging out, we're going to be pretty good
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  Speaker 1: most of the time. We're going to have our bad games,
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  Speaker 1: but I think they go in thinking our defense is
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  Speaker 1: going to be good. Josh Allen has gone into war
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  Speaker 1: knowing that his defense can't stop me or you. that
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  Speaker 1: they would struggle to neutralize Georgia or Alabama. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: so I think his mindset is like, I just got
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  Speaker 1: to make plays, make plays, make plays, make plays. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what's up with that Joe Burrow stat. Interested
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  Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts on the rise of the peanut punch.
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  Speaker 1: Clearly defenses are being taught to punch the ball out.
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  Speaker 1: My gut reaction when it happens is that it often
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  Speaker 1: feels lame. Like you mentioned, what is McCaffrey supposed to do?
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  Speaker 1: I love the idea of stripping the ball out using
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  Speaker 1: brute strength, but the punch just seems cheesy. Also, my
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  Speaker 1: new theory is that the NFL is calling more fourth
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  Speaker 1: down penalties to keep these games closer and more exciting.
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  Speaker 1: For example, the quote illegal contact call to keep Washington's
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  Speaker 1: fourth down drive going late in the second half. How
• 6:52
  Speaker 1: many people would have tuned out if the Niners were
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  Speaker 1: up three scores? Not a terrible theory. Not a terrible
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  Speaker 1: theory at all. But the fourth down, the illegal contact
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  Speaker 1: that kept the ball alive, they were down a score.
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  Speaker 1: So I just think the league is like obsessed with offense.
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  Speaker 1: I think the NFL, the league office, the messaging to
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  Speaker 1: the officiating, maybe the owners as well, just think that
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  Speaker 1: offense gets everyone to watch, which I don't know. I
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  Speaker 1: enjoy Fred Warner cracking skulls. But again, I grew up
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  Speaker 1: on football in the 90s. Like I watched football in
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  Speaker 1: 1995 and loved every minute of it. It's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: it's so much more fun. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I just.
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  Speaker 1: I watched those games and really enjoyed it. I'm the
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  Speaker 1: wrong person to ask, but they are obsessed with this
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  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift crowd, seven-on-seven football, penalties everywhere. It's like, give
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  Speaker 1: me a fucking break. I'm not looking for six-three final
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  Speaker 1: scores here, but there's got to be some middle ground.
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  Speaker 1: Your first question, the peanut punch. I've never even thought
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  Speaker 1: about it. If you make a play on the ball
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  Speaker 1: with your fist, it's a great play. It's hard to do.
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  Speaker 1: But when you get it flush, the guy's going to fumble.
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  Speaker 1: Fred Warner does it a lot. Obviously, the dude last
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  Speaker 1: night did it perfectly. I have no issue with the play.
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  Speaker 1: How about the Packers, John? Didn't you say they were
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  Speaker 1: headed to like four and 13? I might've overreacted. I
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  Speaker 1: might've overreacted. It was hard to unsee what we saw.
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  Speaker 1: And I will never apologize for reacting to a game.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, you're overreacting. No, I'm just literally reacting to
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  Speaker 1: what I saw. And I'm not saying you're saying that,
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  Speaker 1: but when people do that, it's like if a team
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  Speaker 1: gets their ass kicked, you're like, they got some problems.
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  Speaker 1: And you're like, don't say, stop over. No, this isn't baseball.
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  Speaker 1: There's not 140 more of these. You know, this was
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  Speaker 1: already week, whatever, week three. It's like your offensive line
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  Speaker 1: is not going to fix itself. But they just said
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  Speaker 1: we're going deep. And they just go deep every single play,
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: it feels like. With those two receivers, I think are sweet. God,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so happy I drafted Golden on my fantasy team.
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  Speaker 1: Fucker guy just makes plays. I would say, can you
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  Speaker 1: see them making a playoff run? I do want to see...
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  Speaker 1: You know, they caught the Bears backup quarterback, throttled them.
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  Speaker 1: Easy kind of line in the sand game from the floor.
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  Speaker 1: Their coach and their team talking a bunch of shit. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: And then last week you're playing the Cowboys who were
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  Speaker 1: just in shambles. I mean, that coaching staff for the
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: Cowboys is– I was thinking about it even more today,
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  Speaker 1: and I mentioned this last night in the podcast. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan. If I get Vic Fangio, okay,
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  Speaker 1: Vic Fangio, 3-4 defense, that's his baby. I will adapt
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  Speaker 1: my defense to him. But I get Christian Parker and
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  Speaker 1: it's like, let's just change our defense to what he
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  Speaker 1: wants to do. Well, how do we even know he
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  Speaker 1: knows what he's doing? So the 49ers trade. for Osa,
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  Speaker 1: who is by far their best interior pass rusher now,
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  Speaker 1: who the Cowboys liked and had and extended, but he's like,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't fit the defense anymore. Well, it's like, do we
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  Speaker 1: even know this guy knows what he's doing? In what
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: other industry? I mean, I guess it's happened to me
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  Speaker 1: in radio. You hire someone to a management position who has,
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  Speaker 1: I guess it's got to be pretty rare actually, who
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  Speaker 1: has no experience doing that role. And yet you let
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  Speaker 1: him determine all the personnel. Despite everyone in the building
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  Speaker 1: way more experienced, And I would say understanding of who
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  Speaker 1: can play and who can't play that are already there.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty nuts. If I was a Cowboy fan, I'd be like,
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  Speaker 1: we changed our whole defense for this guy and we
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  Speaker 1: don't even think he can coach. Honestly, I red flag
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  Speaker 1: him going back to the training camp when he was
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  Speaker 1: getting mad about people, or not people, the Cowboys being
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  Speaker 1: so public with their training camp videos. They just post
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  Speaker 1: a lot of plays and stuff from training camp. It's like, bro,
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  Speaker 1: if they post it, if they didn't post it, none
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  Speaker 1: of it matters. Your DBs have no fucking clue what
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  Speaker 1: you want them to do. What are we talking about?
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  Speaker 1: Question for the pod. Being a diehard Alabama fan my
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  Speaker 1: entire life, I've definitely been spoiled the Saban years. Especially
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  Speaker 1: after suffering the decade prior to his arrival. Although there
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: will never be another quite like him, I do think
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: he was smart to get the hell out before the
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: NIL was in full force. I remember you talking up
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: Kalen DeBoer before he was hired, and I absolutely agreed
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  Speaker 1: with you. I was elated we hired him. I do
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  Speaker 1: think he's a good coach. However, I prefer a tough
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  Speaker 1: SOB who will chew these kids' asses when they need
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  Speaker 1: it and won't put up with the nonsense. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like the closest thing these days are Kirby and Signetti.
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  Speaker 1: albeit different personalities. I know we don't fire DeBoer unless
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  Speaker 1: things get really bad. However, if when we do search
• 12:10
  Speaker 1: for another coach, who would you think would be the
• 12:13
  Speaker 1: best fit in Titletown? That's what T-Town means, right? Titletown?
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  Speaker 1: I think it's extremely difficult to ever replicate what Nick
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  Speaker 1: brought to the table. I mean, you watch, if you
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  Speaker 1: want to be a successful human being, I actually think
• 12:33
  Speaker 1: the Nick Saban documentary is an incredible watch. I've just
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  Speaker 1: watched it for entertainment, but you could go back and
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  Speaker 1: take notes during it. Because Nick actually isn't just this
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: weirdo asshole the entire time. He's got a big personality.
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  Speaker 1: He was incredible at recruiting. So he could turn on
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  Speaker 1: the charm. He kind of was just... Made to be successful.
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: Like his wiring. Because he had it all. He could
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  Speaker 1: throw on a smile and kind of wine and dine
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  Speaker 1: you a little bit. And he could obviously be a
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  Speaker 1: royal asshole, which, let's face it, a lot of young
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  Speaker 1: men need. We need that. Because most people worth their salt,
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: especially the people he's around, young coaches and definitely young
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: players who aspire to do big things, need some ass-chewings. Hell,
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: I got one earlier today. I told Marie the other day,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, you got some Nick Saban to you. You're
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: on my ass about some stuff. And you know what? Well,
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: sometimes I push back. I got a little Lane Giffen
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  Speaker 1: in me. I earned a lot of those. And I
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  Speaker 1: think most of us, deep down, want to be pushed.
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  Speaker 1: Want to be pushed. Big time. And I think DeBoer
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  Speaker 1: is really, really smart when it comes to offense. I
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  Speaker 1: just think you can't fake your personality. Nick's personality is very, very... Like, Cignetti.
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  Speaker 1: These guys aren't faking any... Kirby's not faking any of it.
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  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine Kirby at practice this week. This
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  Speaker 1: guy gotta just be going fucking nuts. But if you
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: can get a... I was watching... Someone asked me recently
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: in a DM, and I never addressed it, And they said, hey,
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: have you watched the Mike Tyson documentary? Any thoughts? And
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: I hadn't at the time. Well, last night, after, again,
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: I kind of needed a podcast late. The only way
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: to chill out. I can't have a light on, you know,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: and like read. Not that I would, even though I
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: wish I was more of a reader. But I threw
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: on the Tyson documentary on my phone. I was watching
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: it while she was sleeping. And it's just, it's pretty,
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  Speaker 1: the first episode's incredible. I didn't realize... Tyson in the 80s,
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: I didn't live through it. The Tyson I remember was
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: the guy in jail, biting ears off. I remember kind
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: of the sideshow version, not the rocket ship version. I
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  Speaker 1: just assumed this guy just had a huge knockout punch,
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  Speaker 1: wasn't that fundamentally sound, didn't really know what he was doing.
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  Speaker 1: That's always, I guess, what I assumed in the back
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  Speaker 1: of my mind of peak Mike, and that was not
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: the case at all. You know, he got with Custom Auto,
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: this trainer, and completely changed Mike's life and turned him into,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: and obviously Mike, you know, to be a great fighter,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: you have to have some physical attributes, which Mike clearly had.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: But like, he was, this guy molded, I mean, one
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  Speaker 1: of the greatest fighters in the history of the sport.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: And I haven't, I'm only like an episode and a
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: half in. It's probably, it's not even to when his
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: downfall starts. But in his prime, in his peak, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was pretty special. I mean, and I, the first
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  Speaker 1: thing I thought of was like, you know what? This
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: kind of reminds me a little, it's different. This Mike
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: grew up way tougher circumstances than Tiger Woods. But both
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: these guys were like absolute nerds for their sport. all
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  Speaker 1: they thought about, all they did, their entire youth was this.
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  Speaker 1: Now Mike battled, like got in trouble, but once he
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  Speaker 1: was like 11, 12 and started fighting and he got
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: with this trainer guy, it just, for the next seven,
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  Speaker 1: eight years of his teens, it's all he did. It
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: was like a high school dropout. He was just fighting.
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  Speaker 1: Tiger Woods, I mean, did Tiger Woods really go to
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: high school? I mean, no, he was playing golf in
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  Speaker 1: the morning, in the afternoon. And I also had the
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: thought of like, This is off tangent of Nick Saban,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: but God, it's got to be really difficult. You know,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of us, as we get older, you know,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: typically your career for normal human beings is linear, right?
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  Speaker 1: You just keep growing and getting better. And, you know,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: financially in a perfect world keeps growing. But some of
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: these people, they peak so early and everyone knows who
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: they are. It's not shocking that it can really fuck
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: up your life. And it goes for childhood actors, Michael Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: Tiger Woods, Mike Tyson. I can't even imagine to have
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: that much pressure at that age. It's got to be difficult.
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  Speaker 1: I just think that that's where football and guys like
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  Speaker 1: Nick Saban, there's a humility that comes with that. The
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  Speaker 1: individual sports, who was going to tell Mike Tyson and
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Tiger Woods at 20 years old? They didn't hear no anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Where if you play football... and you play for Kirby Smart,
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: and you play for Nick Saban, you play for Cignetti,
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  Speaker 1: even if you're their best player, they're going to be
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: on your ass. And I always thought there's, when you play,
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  Speaker 1: and I saw it when I was at Fresno State
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: with Pat Hill, there's a humility that comes with football
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: because you're just going to get knocked down no matter
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: what every single day, in a healthy way, right? It just,
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  Speaker 1: that's the nature of the sport. The sport will humble you.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: I saw Kirby say this You're a week away from
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: getting humbled or a week away from humility. And there's
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of truth to that. And I just think
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: that they lost two games back-to-back for the first time
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: since 2007. We're also in a different era. I do
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: think if DeBoer was there... If Saban had retired before
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: NIL and Transfer Portal, I think BAM would probably be
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: better because the school would just recruit itself. I think
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: it is more difficult now. And I think you notice
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: this throughout college football. These teams aren't as good. It
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: does feel a little bit like the NFL where everyone's
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: got a lot of flaws because you can't stack the
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: roster because of the salary gap. And even if you're
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: recruiting high-end players, there's just a nature of you're going
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: to miss on some of these recruits. I need to
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: tell you about this new sports trading app called Polymarket.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: It's the best way to trade in sports. In the past,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: if you wanted some action on the game, you'd put
• 19:21
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• 20:45
  Speaker 1: clearing organization. Speaking of college football, I've never been fully
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: sold on Marcus Freeman, and I think his reputation has
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: gotten ahead of his resume. You could make a real
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: case that he's a shinier James Franklin. Not similar hair.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Marcus be cheating. He recruits well, beats the teams he's
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: supposed to, and comes up short when the stakes are
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: the highest. Look at the playoff run. He beat Indiana
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: a year before they became a real Indiana. He beat
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: a Georgia team that was playing without a starting quarterback.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: He beat James Franklin, which, as we've all learned, isn't
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: exactly a badge of honor. When he finally faced a
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: true heavyweight in Ohio State, he lost. Outside of that run,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: he's had about three truly big games in two years.
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: I'll defend him here. It is difficult to recruit at
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame. They are closer to the academic powers of
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: the type guy. There's a reason their roster has never
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: really felt like peak LSU, peak Georgia, even with some
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: of the stuff Oregon's good teams. They don't get the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: skill guys in because of their standard academically. And then
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: one problem for them is Indiana's good now. So as
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Jackson mentioned on the podcast a couple nights ago, I
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: was like, why didn't Notre Dame go after Nick Marsh?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Because I'm watching them like, why don't you guys have
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: some more skill guys? Nick Marsh, Michigan State, Indiana, they did.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: And he chose to go to Indiana. So, you know,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: when Stanford's down, which directly benefits Notre Dame, Vanderbilt had,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: they had like Diego Pavia and guys that weren't normal
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Vanderbilt kids. But if you look at some of the
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: other academic powers, if UCLA gets good, Indiana's now good.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: There are only so many guys with high-level GPAs to
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: go around. I think it's a more challenging job than
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: the way he's held against Texas, Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: Ryan Day can get anyone he wants into school if
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: they can play. Any single person. No matter what. Clearly,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: you watch Jeremiah Smith. That guy is a high-level guy.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: He can play at Notre Dame academically. But, like, Ohio
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: State gets some guys that are some wild cards. LSU, Bama, Georgia.
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: The SEC schools don't give a fuck. Don't give a shit.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Pete Carroll in his heyday didn't care. You know, that's
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: who you're competing against. So, you know, you watch them,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: you go, leave a little something to be desired, I
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: would say, skill-wise. It's like, you're missing something. Because financially,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: it's not going to be their issue. I mean, let's
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: face it. You watch them against BYU. And there is
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: no different in the talent on that field. Other elephant
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: in the room this year, the Big 12, who is
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: viewed like the ACC, one team, one team only, what
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: if they're going to get a ton of teams? And
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: this is why Lane Kiffin's bitching and moaning right now.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Nine conference games. Yeah, Lane, we want you to play
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: real fucking games. I need the TV networks to get
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: more involved here. If you want our money, we're going
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: to need some real games. I'm sorry. No more complaining
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: about playing nine conference games. Can you imagine if, like,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: tomorrow Mike McDonald or Sam Darnold at the press conference
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: was like, you know, we're just playing too many NFL teams.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: This is bullshit. You'd be like, what did he say?
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: That's essentially what Lane's doing. They're making us play this
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: extra conference game. It could be against Mercer. It's like,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: shut the fuck up. You paid $ 13 million, play real teams,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and win the goddamn games you're at LSU. I mean,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: give me a break. No one wants to... I love football.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I've dedicated my life to just watching and talking about it.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: And hearing these guys in college complain about the schedules
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: just makes me want to fucking jump off a bridge. Who...
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Can't you just put your LSU? How many teams on
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: your schedule should be as good as you? If you
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: play 12 regular season games, the number should probably be
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: under three. Even if you're playing a real schedule. But God,
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: they're complaining. In the NFL, no one complains about the schedule.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: In terms of the team you're playing. They complain about
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: the travel schedule. It's like, ah, making us go to
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: France while they're burning the city down. That sucks. It's
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: not like, well, we got to play, it's bullshit. We
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: got to play Aaron Rodgers and TJ Watt. Why can't
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: we play the Birmingham Stallions? It's just so exhausting. It's
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: crazy how the world these college coaches live in and
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: how jaded their perspective is than the people that pay
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the bills, which is us watching it. Because that's where
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: all the money comes from. It wasn't that long ago
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: before these TV contracts blew up. And the TV contracts
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: have gotten big because of me and you. And everyone
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: that watches the game on Saturday. That their salaries... I mean,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: you watch the Saban documentary. In 2004 or 2005, he
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: was making $ 2. 5 million a year. Which was a lot
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: of money. Don't get me wrong. But by the end,
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: he's probably making $ 15 million. Lane's complaining, making $ 13 million.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: won one big game his whole life against Georgia several
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: years ago. It's like, Lane, shut up. I just can't
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: take the schedule complaining by these coaches anymore. Just win
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: the games. Just win the games. If Aikman's contract is
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: not renewed, who do you think would be the best
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: choice in the booth next year with Buck? Shane Gillis.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I care less about this than I think most.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: I do find it fascinating, the relationship fracture. That's interesting
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: to me. But if they replace him with Greg Olson
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: or they replace him with, The Kelsey brothers, I'm just
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: not going to care that much. Because I'm watching the
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: game no matter what, and half the time I don't
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: even have it up that loud because it's dinner time
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: or whatever. I truly don't care as much. I do
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: appreciate Troy because he's the last of a dying breed
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: that will just say some stuff that a fan would say. Like,
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: this is terrible. I have a lot of respect for
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Greg Olson. Definitely his playing career. And clearly he's well-liked
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: in terms of this business. He's come on my podcast before.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: I'm a fan. But he's not going to get in
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: that booth and just be ripping coaches. And it's like
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: us as the consumer, us as the people with a
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: little cash on the game, when Dan Quinn is calling
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: for the field goal and it's turnover on downs, I mean,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: if you have some action on Washington– you're furious and
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: you're calling them names. And Troy would let it rip.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: I don't even know if he necessarily did last night,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: but no one else is critical anymore. And I'm not
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: asking you to even be critical of the players. I
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: get it. You're friends with them all. But if you
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: can't rip the coaches... And again, you don't have to
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: say they need to be fired, but it's like, he
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: didn't know it was fourth down. We got to be
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: able to have honest conversations. And I feel like those
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: days are just ending. And you watch JJ with Nance.
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: These guys are just very positive. Which is fine. I enjoy, like,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: build it up the game. Be a conduit for the fans. Well, yeah,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: being a conduit for me, the consumer, is like when
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Dan Quinn is saying field goal and it's turnover on downs. Like,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: that's a play when that audio got his mouth and
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: Jaden throws it away. I think it's fair to assume
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: no one had any clue what down it is. And
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: it feels like Jaden, the offensive coordinator, Dan Quinn, they
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: got no clue what's going on with situations anymore. It's
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: fair to assume, whether they're practicing or not, it doesn't
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: translate to anyone being on the same page in the game.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: You've got to have that conversation during the game. It
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: has to happen. It can't just be like, oh, Debo
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Samuel eating sunflower seeds on the sideline. He's excited to
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: be back with the Diners. And I just think we
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: get a lot of fluff now. It's okay to be
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: fluffy if you're entertaining like Madden. Or Gruden. But a
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: lot of these guys aren't. So it's like, what's your pitch?
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: That's my question. What are most of these guys? Like,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Troy's pitch is like, I'll kind of be an asshole.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: You know? And you saw it on his face last
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: night with Joe Buck. Those days, I just miss that
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Bruda guy. Everything's like, oh, the NFL, woohoo! Like, yeah.
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: How about these officials all get fired? Because this is egregious.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: You can literally insert that comment any game. What in
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: the world needs to happen for the future of the Chargers? Realistically,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: Herbert is not going to get moved, and he shouldn't be.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: I'm sure Harbaugh won't either, and I also agree he shouldn't.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: But everything else is on the table. Everyone is screaming
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: to tank for Jeremiah Smith, although that would be ideal
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: for Herbert, finally having a true number one. But they
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: can't even protect the quarterback over the past two years,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: and this year is even worse than last year, which
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: seems impossible. If you tell me Jim Harbaugh's not fired,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I don't really know what they do. I mean, are
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: you just going to start trading guys? I think they're
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: in a tough spot. I don't have a great answer
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: for you. They are, you know, Mike. Okay, you fire
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: Mike McGinnis. Well, who's going to be your offensive coordinator?
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: You've got to go hire one. Who's that guy? Does
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Greg Roman have a cousin? Like, what do you do?
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: If you think about his offensive coordinators in the NFL,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: it was Greg Roman and Greg Roman. I'd have to
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: go back and look at some of his offensive coordinators
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: in college. Was Jed Fish one one year? He might
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: get fired. I don't know. I don't have a good
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: answer for you. Luckily for you, it's like the Broncos
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: have a quarterback problem. Raiders still, I mean, a little
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: bit away. And you don't know if Fernando can play.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: And the Chiefs are Chiefs. You mentioned you don't think
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Peyton would want to be the GM of the Colts.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: Of all the things he's done, the ads, Omaha, he's
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: proven businessman that knows how to print money. What better
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: way to do that than to have a part ownership
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: of a franchise, if that's on the table? Also, seeing
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: what John Lynch built in San Francisco, what Elway did
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: as an executive, Peyton seems to like the kind of
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: guy who knows he can do it better. They called him, quote,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: the general manager. when he was a quarterback. Why not
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: actually be in charge? Well, you know, John Elway had
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: been removed from the game for a long time, right?
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Peyton Manning retired in 16, 17 was his last year,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: 17 Super Bowl, right? February 17 or whatever. So about
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: 10 years removed. Elway, I think, retired in what year
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: was that? 98, came back in like 10, 11 range.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: So similar, a little over a decade out, Peyton... I
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: watched this rant of a local radio guy in Indy
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: on YouTube the other day. And he's like, I truly believe,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: and I might have mentioned this last night, that he
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: still holds ill will against the Colts for cutting him.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: You know, let's be real. Tom likes Robert Kraft like
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: a family member, like a like a father, like a grandpa, right?
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Clearly that's a special relationship. But it does feel like
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: he's got a little F you New England patriot to him.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, that organization, fair
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: or not, Bill was the guy making the decision, but
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: said you're not good enough to stay here. And this
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: is the Troy Aikman thing with Buck. I think in
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: five years after he has some cocktails, he'll be fine.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: But right now in the heat of it, This is
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: a prideful SOB. This is a guy who, in the
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: course of his career, has seen some shit, has, I mean, disastrous,
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: he had to transfer in college, was an embarrassment early
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: on in the NFL, became the star player, but even
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: some of his highlights in the pros are him lighting
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: up guys. This is just a throwback. And you watch
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: some of these situations, like, I ain't forgetting this right now.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: I'm not acting like something's not happening that is happening.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: You guys don't want me here. It's your prerogative out
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: of my control. But I'll be a pro, but also
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make sure everyone watching this knows, like,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I'm not cool with what's going on. And this guy
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: sitting next to me, who, again, in a couple years,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: we may be fine, everything will be cool, but right now,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: fuck this dude. Which I respect, you know? And I...
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: It's hard. Who knows how much money Peyton Manning actually has.
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: But if the franchise is worth $ 6- 7 billion, 10%, let's
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: just pick 6%. I don't know. It could be worth more.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: It could be worth 7%. Because of the market, it's
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: not going to be probably the 10s and the 12s,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: but it's still billions upon billions of dollars. 5% of
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: like $ 6 billion, which feels extremely conservative, no math major,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: but would be $ 300 million in liquid cash you'd have
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: to come up with. And that's being conservative on the valuations. Hell,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: if it was $ 5 billion, you're talking $ 250 million cash, liquid.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: So not all these companies you own, like stocks that
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: you own, you have to whatever, liquidate that and have
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: the cash to get 5%, 10% or whatever at a
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: huge number. So I... If you're him, like, is that
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: something you'd be interested in doing? Maybe the ownership part,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: But to me, the grind, like what I'd be fascinated
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: to ask if just have a beer with Matt Ryan
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: and be like, what have you thought about this? At
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: this point in time, John Lynch has been a GM longer.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: He's been a broadcaster. Like this is John Lynch's 10th year.
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: So he's been hand in hand with Kyle. I also
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: think it's easier. Some of these guys come back like
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Elway and he had to fire, you know, he hires
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: John Fox, fires John Fox, gets Kubiak, If you hit
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: on the coach, like, would John Lynch have done and
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: been the GM for 10 years if they didn't have
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: a star coach? If he had just hired, like, a
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: random guy? Well, one, he wouldn't have had the job.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was part of it. They paired them
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: together because they were friends. He was the one that
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: told Kyle, like, hey, man, I heard you're struggling to
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: find a GM. I'd be interested. So I... Who would
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: Peyton hire? And again, these would be interesting questions. Trust me, I...
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I'm all for Peyton Manning getting involved. But like, does
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: he want to work 12, 14 hours a day? I
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: don't know. I would doubt it. I just think an
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: easier role for him to be would just be like, okay,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: I'll do Monday Night Football. And who knows if he'd
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: be that good. I think he'd be pretty good. But
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: there is a balance of being loose and fun and
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: also doing football talk like sometimes you watch commenters like
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: the hurl flat cover four cover six like no one
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: understands what you're saying that's not how john madden talked
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: john gruden didn't talk like that you have to keep
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: this simple you can't have go on these long scheme
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: rants the average person sitting down has no clue what
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: you're talking about So it's all about entertaining, which I
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: do think Peyton could do. I actually think Tom's gotten
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: a lot better at that. University of Wisconsin graduate. I
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: have a prediction. Vikings trade for Saquon Barkley. I mean,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: doesn't he have a serious hamstring injury? Some of these guys,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I thought Washington could have traded for Terry McLaurin, and
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: then he rips his knee. It's like, yeah. It's like,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: should the Colts trade Sauce Gardner? You mean with a
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: pulled calf, which he had last year? What the hell
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: is his value? Whatever they paid for him, it would
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: be like a quarter of that. So part of trading
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: for players, if you want to get value back, like
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: if Saquon was fully healthy, maybe you could flip him
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: for a second. But right now, like what's his value? Fifth?
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: He's literally injured. He's not available. So I'm not shitting
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: on your take here or your predictions. But I saw
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: people talking about that, like, should the Colts get rid
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: of Alec Pierce and Sauce Gardner? It's like, you're just
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: listing a bunch of guys that literally can't play in
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: games or are injured right now. I mean, last I checked,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: injured players do not typically get traded. Unless I've been
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: paying attention to the wrong thing. I'm a Titans fan.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: Rough times. Been there, bro. Well, not really. I've never
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: been a Titans fan, but I've just been through rough
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: times as a sports fan. The quarterbacks we've lost to
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: this year are Snoop Huntley, Geno Smith, Jameis Winston, CJ Stroud,
• 39:26
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  Speaker 1: it time we started having a serious conversation that Kyle
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: Hamilton is the most impactful defensive player in the league?
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: Dude is everywhere. Seemingly do everything. We'll just change the
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: way teams value safeties. Well, here's the problem. There aren't
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: many 6'4, 220-pound, sweet ball skills physical players in the NFL.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, that play defensive back. He's just an outlier
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: body type. So it has a little bit of like
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Draymond Green. Remember forever, it was like, we're going to
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: draft the next Draymond Green. It's like, Draymond's the biggest
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: outlier in the history of the NBA. Can't score, yet
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: he's an elite player, and he's 6'5, but he plays
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: power forward center, but he has the arm length of
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: a 7-footer, but he can dribble and pass like a
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: point guard, and he can play defense like a guy
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: from the 90s in his prime. It's just a... They're
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: just some outliers. And I would say Kyle Hamilton is
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: just an outlier. Physically, first and foremost. Broncos fan. I've
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: watched every one of Bo Nicks start. Starts, and there
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: is no doubt the quarterback play is not sustainable for
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: a playoff run. The Broncos offense faces two high safeties
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: over 75% of the time. Highest in the league is 57%,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: which is an indicator that the defense doesn't respect a
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: running game. You and Colin hit on it all the time.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: It's impossible to run an offense to function without the run.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Could a trade for Jonathan Taylor or Tony Pollard give
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: us some yards after contact contact, and provide a more
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: favorable alignment for Bowe to throw against. Here would be
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: my worry if I trade for one of these running backs.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: It better work. Because last year I traded a first-round
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: pick for Waddle. That is not working. And then if
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I trade for one of these, you know, Jonathan Taylor
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: I think would cost more than Tony Pollard. But whoever,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley, it better work. Because if all of a
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: sudden I'm 9-8 and I miss the playoffs, or 10-7
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: and I miss the playoffs as the 8th seed, or
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: 7th seed and I'm 1-1, It's like, would we like
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: those picks back? I'm giving it a couple more weeks
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: to breathe. And the reality is, you know, sometimes quarterbacks,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: like they don't necessarily regress. Like that was last year
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: was his peak. It's just who he is. He has
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: some major flaws. He's not a pocket player. He's not
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: a read the defense and slice and dice them with
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: his mind. He's never played like that. and you're watching
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: him try to play like that, and it is just failing.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: And then on top of that, once his mind and
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: arm are no longer connected, balls are flying all over
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: the place. It's funny, and I was mentioning this to
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: my guys last night. There's a loyalty, I would say,
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: underrated in the NFL if you played for the Broncos. Like,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: You know, I see we hired at the volume like
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette and Jarvis Landry and the pride those guys
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: have in LSU. And like when Jaden did his, you know,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: cease and desist letter, you could just tell all the
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: LSU guys were like, fuck you. Like Jaden, you can
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: pack up and leave before you ever think any of
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: us are going to say a bad word about this program.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Get over it, buddy. And it was like universal. Every
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: guy over the last 20 plus years have played in
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: that program. Denver Broncos sneaky like that too. That if
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: you've noticed, every former player for the Denver Broncos kind
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: of takes it easy on Bo Nix. And then Ryan
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick said something that literally we all thought of. It
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: wasn't me saying that. That was a guy that played
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: in the NFL for 17 years at quarterback. That just
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: knows what decent quarterback play looks like. He also wasn't
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: ripping like Josh Allen or Mahomes. He was ripping a
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: guy most human beings go, this guy kind of sucks.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: And then they all... Aqib Tlaib comes out against them.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: You notice, like, from Shannon Sharps to... You name it.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Just go to... They take it... Schlerus, the rare guy.
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: And because he's a media radio guy. Like, that's his baby, right?
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: And he'll let it rip on Bo. But it feels
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: like the Broncos' former players are just very, very kind
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: to the franchise. Which I understand. It's like being a...
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: a member at some sweet club, right? Social club, golf club, whatever.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: It's like, listen, there's some things about it I don't love,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: but you say anything publicly, you're kicked out. Because guess what?
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: I like coming back to that club. And their owners,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: they built this incredible facility. They take care of their alumni.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: It's a great place to watch a football game. They just,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: it's a cool operation. I mean, the Broncos are cool.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: And those guys are very, and I'm not saying there's
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: like an edict going out from the organization. You say something,
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: you're going to get cut off. But it clearly feels
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: like they just treat it with kid gloves. I mean,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: for Akeem to leave to come out. Akeem, I watched
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: you play live. You would fucking hate this quarterback. You
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: guys would have, those guys, that defense that he played on,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: if they were playing that version of Bo Nix, the
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: comments those guys would have made about him, you ripped
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: off Crabtree's chain. And now you're pretending that Fitzpatrick was
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: wrong with what he said? What are we talking about?
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I messaged you back in September about how Garrett vs.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Trade and the Donald addition could affect the Rams locker room.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: So this is not a Monday morning quarterback. Their offseason
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: looks like a disaster. They allocated $ 100 million of their
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: cap into Donald, Garrett, and McDuffie while trading a verse
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: a popular player in the in the locker room also
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: they used a first round pick on ty simpson none
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: of it makes sense i can see why guys like
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: kieran williams are speaking out i i i just think
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: we underrate chemistry uh cohesion, all that type stuff in football.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: College and pro. You are so dependent on just liking
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: the other guy. I think it's an underrated part about
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: good NFL teams. And I would say good college teams too.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: You like the guys you play with. I'm not saying
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: you like everybody. I'm not saying there are some guys
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: on the team that you can't stand. But the coaching staff,
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: the team, there's just good vibes. Typically, bad vibe teams,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: you can see them a mile away. And the Rams
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: are a terrible vibe team. They feel like last year
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: was their year. They blew it. I mean, let's face it.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: They blew it. They were killing Seattle in that Thursday
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: night game. Killing them. And they imploded. They lost. It
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: ended up costing them home field advantage because they also
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: lost to the Falcons. And then they lost up in
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Seattle in a coin flip game. And they tried to
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: quadruple down this offseason and it blew up in their face.
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: The reality is sometimes when you double down in blackjack,
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: you don't get 21. You know, if you're showing like
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: a 7 and a 4 and you double down. Especially
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: if you're playing aggressive hands. And you're like, you know,
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: I've had some late, I haven't played blackjack in years.
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  Speaker 1: But when I was younger, I used to love it.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: And there were times when my net worth was probably like,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: I don't even know, $ 2, 000. My net worth as a
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: human being in my 20s, maybe five, right, max. You
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: would have had to really hustle on eBay. And I'd
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: be playing. You know, if you were in the right
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: spot in Vegas or an Indian casino somewhere in California,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: you could have like $ 500 a hand. Yeah. You'd have
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: to build up to it a little bit, probably get
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: rolling back in those financial times. But then all of
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: a sudden, you get a 7 and a 4, and
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: she's showing a 14 or whatever. You know, you're going
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: to get aggressive, and you double down. And then all
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, she rolls a 5. Or, I mean,
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: she gives you a 5, and you're like, oh, that
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: ain't good. And then she flips three other cards and
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: has 20. And you just lost an enormous hand. That's
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: how life works. There is no guarantee. So everyone just,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: they're going to trade for Myles Garrett. It's like Myles
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Garrett was playing on a god-awful team the majority of
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: his career. There are some times when you add a player,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: like two of the best free agent signings of all
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: time in my life, of like guys that were already
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: viewed as Hall of Famers, right? Drew Brees in New Orleans,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: he was not viewed as a Hall of Famer when
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: he signed with New Orleans, right? And Peyton and Tom, like,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: were old. And Peyton coming off the neck. But, like,
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: just true guys in their prime. You go, like, Reggie White.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: When Mike Holmgren signed him to the Packers. And he
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: was a little even older by then. But Deion Sanders.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: When the Niners signed him for a year. And then
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys signed him. It was like, this is a
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: plug and play. This is going to work. The Miles
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Garrett thing is like, well, you've got to remove Verge.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: You've got to factor in the money. You've got to
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: get rid of the picks. I.
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: It's crazy looking back. It's like, you guys were close
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: as it is. Plus, Seattle got worse just because of
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: free agency. Kobe Bryant leaves, Kenneth Walker leaves. They got
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: some question marks. You don't have to do this. This
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: isn't like Yankees versus Red Sox. It's not like they
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: have no salary cap and they could just add a
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: bunch of teams. The 49ers had one big acquisition. It
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: was Mike Evans. It wasn't like, well, they added Mike Evans,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: seven other defenders. It's like, no, they added one guy who,
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: God love him and is a badass, but his body's
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: like being taped together right now. Look at the rest
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: of the... The Bears' defense, more than questionable. Lions have
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: no defense. Packers, they've had two good games, but we'll see.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: The Vikings have no offense. The Eagles are falling apart.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: The Cowboys are a joke. I mean, you didn't need
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: to do this. Like, sometimes patience, you know, they say
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: patience is a virtue. There's some truth to that. Like,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: what was the impetus of being that aggressive? And then
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: it doesn't work when you do that. It's like using
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: a golf analogy, you know, trying to hit the green
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: when you got to carry water and out of bounds,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: like the margin, if this goes wrong, this is a problem, right?
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: If you do miss hit this thing, you are going
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: in the water, going out of bounds. This isn't like, Oh,
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: not that big a deal. You're still fine. And that,
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: that's what has happened here. They took on so much
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: risk that if it went perfectly, yeah, every, they would
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: get applauded, but the path to the outcome is, that
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: was going to be ugly was definitely there. I mean,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: your quarterback's like close to 40. Think about the Peyton
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Manning situation in Denver. It's like he gets there, MVP,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: he's incredible, their team, and then it was just over.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: He couldn't throw. It just stopped working. Like you can age,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: like let's face it, Aaron Rodgers, the last couple years,
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: his arm still is really strong, but physically he looks
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: completely different than he once did, right? Father time. How
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: many of you guys, if you're listening to this, as
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: you've got into your thirties, definitely your forties, if you
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: guys are in your fifties, you just feel in your body.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: I feel like my metabolism has slowed down dramatically in
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: the last two years. From like 38 range to 41.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: Like just during that stretch. It's like, geez, we've got
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: a long, hopefully I got 40, 50 more years. I mean,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: am I just going to have to eat salads? But
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you have to change your diet. You
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: can no longer just burgers, fries, that type of shit
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: whenever you want. Like you did 15 years ago. It's like, well,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: I went to the gym today. You're good. It's like, yeah.
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: I've never had a six pack, but it didn't phase me.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: I worked out so I could eat whatever I wanted.
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: Those days are done. And, you know, definitely if I'm
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: holding Jack the wrong way and pull a muscle, it's
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: like I feel it for a week. And I'm a
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: couple years older than Matt Stafford. It's like, yeah, it's
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: going to be hit or miss. It's what happens when
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: you get older. You don't just dominate a league that
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: has never been faster. So it's just difficult. And it
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: does feel like he's off. Their team's off. Their chemistry's off.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: Which at the same time, I do respect putting your
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: chips in the middle of the table. I do respect
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: when people double down on an uncomfortable hand. My question is,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: did you need to do that? You could have just
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: rolled back last year's team, had all the assets, slow
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: played everything, and figured out where you were. And still
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: had a future if it backfired. How is McVay going
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: to stay if it backfires? It's like, are you going
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: to stay with Ty Simpson? I feel like they would
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: have to trade Puka. Okay, we'll end with this. Watching
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: the Falcons-Bears game made me think Stefanski is an idiot.
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: They were down 31-7. No thanks to his OC's pass-happy
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: play calling. Isn't this guy supposed to be an offensive guru?
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: Why isn't he calling the plays? Bichon had five carries
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: for 52 yards in the first half. Why does he
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: only have five carries when he's running like that? Give
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: him the ball. Instead, the Falcons insisted on throwing, ended
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: up third and long and punting to Ben Johnson, who
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: actually can call the offense. The Falcons stormed back a bit,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: but it didn't matter. I would really struggle with an
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: offensive coach that can't call the plays. For me, that
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: would be a deal breaker. I'm hiring you to run
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: my baby, which is going to have the highest paid
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: player on the team, ideally in the quarterback, that potentially
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: if we build it right is going to have wide
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: receivers that make $ 30 to $ 40 million, offensive tackles that
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: make $ 30 plus million, guards make $ 20 to $ 25. The
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: amount of capital we're spending on the offensive side of
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: the ball and the importance of that position in this league,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: that should be your baby. So we can nitpick some
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: of these other guys, but you got, and listen, not everyone,
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan had a terrible second half. But you never go, yeah,
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I wonder what Kyle's doing on the sideline. I texted
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: someone today. I was like, why do you think Kyle
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: didn't call the delay of game or the timeout on
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: the delay of game? And they're like, I bet he
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: was pretty mad about that sequence and was in his iPad,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: you know, talking to the offensive coaches. Which, again, you're
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: the head coach. You're not just the coordinator. But I
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: can respect if you've had three straight three and outs.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: That's his fucking baby. What is going on here, Brock?
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: I have no, and I mean no tolerance for Dan
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Quinn having that moment. Well, what else are you doing here?
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: Looking at the stands? Checking out some babes? Looking at
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: the guy delivering beer down the aisles? What are you doing? So...
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I've never quite understood it with Stefanski. I saw today
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: The Athletic. I click on The Athletic today because I'm, listen,
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: automatic click when it's like, here are future candidates for
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: the next Colts GM. The first, two of the first
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: three names are Cleveland Brown executives. It's like, how's this possible?
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: This has been, and I understand they did a good
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: job last draft. They also had like 20 picks. You know?
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: It's like, how is the first, it's like, who is,
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: who's Veach's right hand man? Who's working for John Lynch?
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: Who's working for John Schneider? The Browns? Why do you
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: think the Browns? Because whoever wrote that article, the people
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: with the Browns, like, one is a law degree, one's
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: a chick with like a lawyer. It's like, well, academics,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: they're smart. The media loves those fucking people. It's like, well,
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: if I hire them, am I going to get the
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: same results as the Browns? And they're having a good
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: year right now, but We'll see how long that lasts.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: I mean, Deshaun Watson looks terrible. One of the excerpts
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: on one of the two executives was like, she was
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: not there when they acquired Deshaun Watson. I was like, oh, thanks.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: I appreciate that nugget. It's crazy how that works. I
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: think the agents have a lot of juice with some
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: of these lists. I'd say the lists don't matter, but
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: as people in the league will tell me, the owners
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: all read those articles too, so they do kind of matter.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: And you know Carly. She's taking notes. Do you think
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: Peyton would allow her on the sideline if he accepted
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: the gig? Serious question. I don't know. I don't know
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: the answer to that. Went on that. Went on that.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go. I don't know what I'm going
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: to go do, but adios. Have a great day. And
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: we will talk tomorrow, getting ready for Thursday night game
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: is actually pretty good. It's Patriots at Bears, or is
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: it Bears at Patriots? I think the game's in Chicago,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: I think. But I'll know tomorrow on the podcast, and
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: we'll talk about the game. See ya. The Volume.