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>> Skylar: Welcome back, everybody. This is the Q and a part
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two. We're just going to jump right back into it. So sit
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tight and enjoy these crazy answers to all of your
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benders and bruise questions.
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>> Dave: Brock, this question's coming to you
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from Breadbowler
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44.
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Okay, following the finale,
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does Brock give up rumble fighting,
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or is he still competing? Will he compete
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again?
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>> Cameron: I could see him competing again,
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but now that he has to help run the blissful
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brew, what is he.
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>> Skylar: I don't got enough time.
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>> Cameron: I got it.
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>> Mikayla: I don't know. Ash just ditched us, so, you know,
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you could too.
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>> Skylar: To learn how to read.
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>> Cameron: To learn how to read.
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>> Cameron: And Sora just keeps bugging him, just
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like, I don't know, getting married or something. Take a,
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hint of this lady just can't take a
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hand.
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>> Skylar: Do you want to go get coffee? Do you want to go
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to the theme park? The carnival?
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>> Cameron: Yeah, just, man, she just won't stop
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gagging.
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>> Cameron: I don't know. Kiss.
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>> Skylar: Do you want to go ring shopping.
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>> Dave: Until, like, water
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freezing in winter, it cracks
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Brock's rock exterior.
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>> Cameron: That'S right. Sora keep adding, he'll break one of these
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days.
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>> Skylar: The question was, does he start back up at Rumble
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stadium? And the follow up question is, but
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does something happen between Brock and
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Sora?
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>> Cameron: Well, he was very obviously oblivious
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to any sort of advances being made by Sora.
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>> Skylar: To what extent do you think, what do you think her breaking point
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is where she just finally says. She's like, dang
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it, man, I'm into you.
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>> Cameron: I don't know. I feel like with the way that.
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>> Mikayla: Brock, Brock asks her to write a love letter to some
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old woman.
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>> Cameron: Like.
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>> Cameron: Hey, I need help. I need help expressing my love.
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She's like, oh, really? Oh, okay.
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>> Skylar: What do you want?
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>> Cameron: Will you help me write a letter?
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>> Cameron: He's like, yeah.
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>> Cameron: And it just starts off like, oh, this
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classic.
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>> Skylar: Okay, great.
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>> Cameron: It's the classic sitcom, thing where, like, the one character
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thinks the other one likes some, and so they start like, can you
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help me write this letter? And they think gets to them the whole time. And at the very end,
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they go, great.
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>> Cameron: And then I take it out of her hands. I take it over to the
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pirate.
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>> Cameron: He writes on the top of the lamp, he closes it up, and he
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writes, random pirate
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lady.
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>> Cameron: She'd be like,
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perfect. She's in town.
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And, I, like, dap her up on the way out. She's like, thanks,
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bro.
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I think that would have been fantastic.
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>> Skylar: But I think that's a great scenario.
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>> Cameron: I think something like, that would sooner happen than
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Brock realized that Sora's into him.
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>> Skylar: Sure.
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>> Cameron: until she literally hits him over the head with a
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rock, which, honestly.
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>> Cameron: For him, that's his language. That's his
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love language.
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>> Cameron: Yeah. So, honestly, all Sora would need to do is just take a heavy
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rock and just hit him in the head with it and be
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like, I can read now.
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I want to take you away from all this.
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>> Cameron: Oh, nice.
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>> Skylar: The blissful room.
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>> Cameron: But as far as the earth rumble stuff, I think he
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would at least continue it a little bit on the
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side. It was never a passion of his. It was more out of
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necessity.
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>> Skylar: That's fair.
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>> Cameron: His real passion is pirate ladies.
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>> Cameron: Oh, roll your eyes.
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>> Skylar: He had her shot.
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>> Mikayla: He clearly did not.
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>> Skylar: She wanted nothing to do to start.
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>> Cameron: Going for younger, viral ladies.
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>> Cameron: Well, Sora's not a pirate.
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>> Mikayla: She would be one just for you.
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>> Cameron: I was not saying this feels like.
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>> Skylar: A weird situation where she's like, she comes out dressed like a
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pirate, and she's like, and now
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does this work for you?
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>> Cameron: So ash goes and joins the war, and
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Brock join becomes a pirate.
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I'd be down for that.
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>> Skylar: Nice. That'd be fun. what
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happened, Jimmy? Jimmy, n 95 is asking
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the real question. Scare what happens to Dilbert?
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>> Cameron: I think Guo's got ownership over him, right?
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>> Skylar: Is he your squid?
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>> Dave: I don't know what the lifespan of a
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turtle squid is.
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>> Cameron: Well, turtles, like a turtles, live a long time.
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>> Skylar: So what's the lifespan of a squirrel? I was gonna say it was split the
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difference.
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>> Cameron: Yeah, we'll have to. We'll have to.
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Average amount?
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>> Skylar: 300.
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>> Cameron: Well, how old was when we found him? I thought he was, like, young.
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>> Skylar: Yeah, he was a fresh squid chopped up and
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served. Okay.
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>> Cameron: A giant squid can live up to 14 years.
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>> Mikayla: Oh, my giant squid.
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>> Cameron: What if regular squid is three?
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>> Skylar: Oh, well, hey, three.
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>> Cameron: But if it's got giant here, that's like 50 something.
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Hey, 50.
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>> Skylar: No, no, no. Let's keep playing off the idea that he's
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secretly a giant. Like, what it turtle squids
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like, they don't.
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>> Mikayla: He's just a baby.
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>> Skylar: Yeah, he's just a baby one. and then glow's,
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like, taking care of him and feeding him, and over time,
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he's this giant freaking squidgesthe squid that's washing
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dishes in the blissful room.
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>> Cameron: Dilbert, the big black squid.
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>> Dave: And at first, you know, he makes a
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tank and it's, like, displayed in the shop.
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>> Cameron: Nice, right?
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>> Dave: Like, you might make a bigger tank if he ever builds
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another building. But then, yeah, he just keeps
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growing and then, like, eventually he
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gets so big that instead of, like,
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riding a boat round to get all these ingredients,
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he's just riding Dilbert like a lapras.
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>> Cameron: Like, he lives. He lives in the ocean, and
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he blows a magic
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conch shell, and then
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dilder comes on surface, and then
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in.
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>> Dave: The far future, he, like, builds a
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blissful brew on top of.
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>> Skylar: Nice. It's like the ship in one way comes back to
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one piece.
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>> Cameron: Ship in one piece. Yeah.
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>> Skylar: That's awesome. I love that idea.
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>> Dave: I like this idea of, yeah, Dilbert's just a
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baby. Like, they're so common when
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they're, whatever newborns that people just eat
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them or.
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>> Skylar: Whatever, but they get fished to such a point where, like,
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you don't usually see the big ones.
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>> Dave: Yeah.
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>> Skylar: This is a rare survivor because the.
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>> Cameron: Main thing that makes them grow is love.
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>> Skylar: Aw, that's
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beautiful, Connor.
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>> Cameron: Yeah.
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>> Skylar: What do you got?
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>> Cameron: So, question for Mika.
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Mikayla. Mika, knowing
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how the southern water tribe you came from
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end up fleeing their territory, do
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you think your father ever ran into anyone from
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your tribe while he was out looking for
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you, given how they were spread across the world?
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>> Mikayla: You see, I thought
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a lot of them disappeared into the cave.
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>> Skylar: You found notes from at the time
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chief, which was technically the shaman from the. From the
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prequel, and he said that they were gonna just
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flee, and he was hoping that he'd be able
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to keep power or whatever and stay the chief, even though
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they, like, go somewhere else.
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>> Mikayla: Well, then, yeah, I figured probably he would have ran into
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them.
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>> Cameron: Sure.
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>> Mikayla: I don't know if he would have necessarily tried to
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talk with them, per se, just for
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the fact that he knows that they're hunting his child.
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>> Skylar: Oh, even now?
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>> Mikayla: I don't know.
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>> Skylar: Or would they have given up on that?
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>> Mikayla: I mean, they might have. Would have given up. I guess they had to deal with all the
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spirit things, and now they're just. They have to rebuild their home. So
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maybe they would, but I don't know. I feel like he'd be pretty
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cautious before starting a conversation with them,
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at the very least.
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>> Skylar: Sure.
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>> Cameron: I thought of another question.
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>> Skylar: Sure.
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>> Cameron: This one would be for you, Skyler. Oh, man.
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>> Mikayla: Oh, man.
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>> Cameron: So, of all of Brock's antics
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that were trying their best to bend the laws
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of physics of
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any of them, would you have allowed them for the
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plot, for the memes cause, his
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attempted makeshift molotovs,
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his jumping off of a cliff
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and, like, essentially trying to fly, I
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guess, with the
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airbender?
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>> Skylar: I feel like I gave you so much leeway, man.
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>> Cameron: You definitely also just don't ignore the fact that you
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just said Brock can break the fourth wall
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when he's high and then just forced Skyler to have to deal with
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it. He didn't give Skyler a chance to go,
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no, wait. No, you just made it a fun fact. It's a done.
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And he's like, wait, what?
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>> Cameron: It's been established. And he never got high again
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in the rest of the campaign.
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>> Skylar: I mean, here's the thing. You bugs bunnied
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and made a tunnel as fast
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into the ground as Madame Yang was falling
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through the air.
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>> Cameron: M.
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>> Skylar: I mean, that seems, that seems like I'm pushing it. I
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mean, you don't see that in any of the earthbenders in Avatar, last
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airbender. Well, that was pushing it.
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>> Cameron: Maybe they just didn't try hard enough.
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>> Skylar: Oh, they must not skill issue. They must not.
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They didn't bugs bunny it. So I don't think I would
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have given you more leeway. I think I, if I could go back,
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here's, going all the way back to the previous con. One
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of the first questions, sky, if you could do anything
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different, what would you change? I would have given broccoli
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less leeway.
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>> Cameron: That's why I think one of the
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best episodes for Brock is still
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his prequel with Bill because he got hurt at the start
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and actually forced Brock to actually character
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development. It was literally, like he said, he didn't character. There
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was one episode, the prequel, because he got hurt at the start of
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it and he couldn't Earth Bend like Skyler took
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away bending from it because he lost his feet and he hurt.
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And he forced Connor and I, Brock,
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to actually think and actually work
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and actually have to be arc
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character arc never got hurt
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again and then just had all his powers again. And that's why
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he had no character arc. So if anything,
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Skylar, we've said go back is somehow
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give, enforce him through. He
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gets tired or fatigued or something that slows
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him down constantly.
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>> Skylar: Just have this, like, dude come in and just beat
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the brass legs every couple of
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episodes.
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>> Cameron: I don't like using my brain, brain.
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>> Skylar: actually going, going off of that just real quick and I know, I know.
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Cameron, you're next. But just real quick. I can't remember if we talked about
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it in the prequel episode, but you guys, how did you guys
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come up with the idea? I know. I just figured the audience would
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enjoy to hear how you guys came up with the whole
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concept of the one shot in the first place.
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>> Cameron: It was me. It was you, you
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mean? Well, basically, David Michaela we're out of
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town, right? And
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us three guys were free that night still,
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right?
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>> Skylar: But you guys came up with the idea before that.
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>> Cameron: Before came up with what idea?
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>> Skylar: For the whole one shot.
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>> Cameron: Did we?
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>> Skylar: Yeah, during the trip to California or whatever.
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>> Cameron: Oh, yeah, that's right. We did come up with it. Yeah, we were on a
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trip, and me and Connor, just like it was me,
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Connor, a couple other guys, a, couple of other friends
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are in this podcast group. Anyways, we were on
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this trip, and me and Connor talked about doing
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a one shot on the trip because we were
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doing a lot of hiking and stuff, and we went into a cave. And while in
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the cave, we had this idea. We were like, what if Bill
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and, Brock recorded a podcast in a
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cave? That was the premise of what we came up with is Bill and
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Brock started, like, a podcast.
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>> Skylar: Like, from a meta perspective.
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>> Cameron: Yeah, like, in a meta perspective, they started doing a podcast,
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right? What a blah, blah. That was the joke idea. But then we're like, what if there
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was a mini one shot episode we ran while we're
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here, where it's just a Bill Brock one
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shot, right? And so we took that idea and told Skyler
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about it, and Skylar's like, I love that. That's a great idea. But
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just left it at that, right? We just told him about the edit. But then
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Dave McKaylor gone us, three year old free. And then I
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messaged Skyler, said, hey, we're all free. Do you want to
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just make that one shot a reality? And sky said,
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sure, why not? I need some extra filler episodes.
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>> Skylar: Between seasons, and I'm just aggressively typing out an
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episode.
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>> Cameron: Like, what are you doing that day?
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>> Skylar: Yeah.
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>> Cameron: Like.
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>> Skylar: Cause you guys basically gave me, I mean, I cannot stress
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enough. You guys said, okay, so Connor and I
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had this crazy idea, right? So it's a one
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shot where Bill and
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Brock are in a cave.
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>> Cameron: That was all we gave them.
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>> Skylar: That was all you gave me.
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>> Cameron: And I'm like, whoa, what a brilliant idea.
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>> Skylar: Stressing me out.
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Furiously started typing.
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>> Cameron: That was the only premise you gave him, was, we are in a cave?
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>> Cameron: That was really all it was.
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Well, and the only other premise was a Bill
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Brock, one shot.
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>> Cameron: Bill and Brock.
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>> Cameron: Bill and Brock, one shot.
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>> Cameron: But now, if I may. I'm sorry.
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>> Cameron: I'm asking because they're very much those two characters remember much
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Yin and Yang to each other where one
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was slow and methodical and how he approached stuff while
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the other one was. I run in headfirst and
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think later. And so putting them together, I thought was, like, the
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bet, like, the best
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combination of everyone. And, yeah, I think with that
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being.
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>> Skylar: Said, what would, what would Amica and
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Guo wish?
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>> Cameron: Just her getting mad at Guozhouse? No.
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>> Cameron: what kind of adventure would they go on?
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>> Skylar: It would have been interesting to see that.
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>> Mikayla: I don't feel like Mink and Guo had a whole lot of
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chemistry.
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>> Cameron: Well, I mean, chemistry with anyone
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married.
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>> Mikayla: Probably most with Brock, because, I mean, we
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dishwashed.
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>> Dave: I'm not gonna be the one who's like, oh, I'm gonna
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make you guys all watch this
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romantic interface with
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my wife during the
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podcast.
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>> Skylar: That does sound kind of terrifying.
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>> Cameron: If they were to do one, could you think
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of an adventure that would.
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>> Cameron: Those two specific characters would have ended up doing?
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>> Cameron: Like, what if Guo tries to drag Mika along to, like, one of his
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restaurant reviews?
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>> Skylar: That's exactly what I was saying.
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>> Cameron: Or, like, a random food run and.
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>> Cameron: Something goes down in the restaurant, maybe.
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>> Dave: Or go to, like, some.
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>> Cameron: It ends up like an emperor's new.
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>> Dave: Go to some of the kitchen. Micah's fox
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dog disappears. We have to find it.
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>> Skylar: Ooh, that's pretty good, too.
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>> Cameron: And Bill. Well, Bill's gone and.
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>> Cameron: Wait, Mika had a fox dog.
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>> Cameron: Oh, what was his
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name?
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>> Skylar: I love that.
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>> Cameron: That's great.
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>> Dave: No, Mopo.
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>> Cameron: The question is, though, is this a prequel or a post call?
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Like, is this, It works either way because it kind of works
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better if it's like, after Ash is gone, because
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he's gone now and stuff, and then Brock is
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learning.
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>> Skylar: How to read rock.
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>> Mikayla: I feel like that's the only way he would choose me get to go
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with him. was. If it was.
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>> Skylar: I have no idea.
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>> Mikayla: That's what I feel like. Because, like I said, I think you're right.
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Have a whole lot of back and forth during the show,
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I usually paired up with Brock under
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the assumption I knew him the best, because dishwashing.
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>> Skylar: And we had our whole.
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>> Mikayla: I don't know what me and Ash
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had. Bill had.
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>> Skylar: Oh, my gosh. It's like a dog napper. So you
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guys go to the restaurant to, like, try out some new place,
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and some sketchy dude steals poe.
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>> Cameron: It could.
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>> Skylar: And then it just goes.
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>> Cameron: And then the way Mika pairs up with Guo is just kind of
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like, chico's not. Chico's not around. So Guo is there,
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and she's like, go come help me and stuff. And then that leads into,
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because the prequel with bro, Bill and
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Brock, they weren't meant to be together. Bill wanted to go off
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by himself to go have quiet time alone.
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On vacation, and Brock followed him because Bill made
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up some lie about going to a place with cool rocks,
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and he tried to point Brock down the wrong path. But Brock, thinking
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Bill was lying to him, followed Bill, thinking he would lead him to the
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real rocks.
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>> Skylar: Yes.
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>> Cameron: So they weren't even meant to go together, and that's what then led
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into the thing. So I think them, the
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Micah and guo, having a joint
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adventure that wasn't on purpose, but they just accidentally
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go into it. I think that's kind of more natural for these characters
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because I don't think Bill and Brock ever would have really
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interacted.
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>> Skylar: Right.
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>> Cameron: Because Bill was way closer with Mika and.
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Whoa. Then Brock. So, the way we
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actually forced them together. So I think to
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do their one shot, they would have to
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force them together.
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>> Skylar: Sure.
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>> Cameron: Which then would them, maybe after that point would have.
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>> Skylar: Yeah.
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>> Cameron: Shame we didn't do that earlier, because then they would have had that chemistry going
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forward into the podcast. Like, that's a Phil and Brock did
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because of that prequel. But I.
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>> Skylar: No, that's a very good point. Yeah, no, I completely agree. Just
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to. Just a preface. I just want to say real quick from
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Luke, he did ask, and I want to emphasize
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this. If we did spin off campaigns, what would they
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be? and we have. We have definitely answered
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that. So I just want to establish that I really
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appreciate Luke for asking this question. I hope
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we answered it sufficiently. It came up really
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organically.
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>> Cameron: Yeah.
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>> Skylar: but I think there's some fantastic ideas here, for
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sure, which is fair.
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>> Cameron: Out of curiosity, what would have happened in our one
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shot if Brock just decided to. Okay, cool. I'll go
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down this path and see these other rocks. And so then it just
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be bill by himself, and then Brock checking out some
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rocks.
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>> Cameron: Sometimes for the narrative of,
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storytelling, there's a little railroading. And that
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was.
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>> Dave: There wouldn't be any cool rocks.
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>> Cameron: Yeah.
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>> Dave: So bad that he would go find.
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>> Cameron: Bill and throw his bo staff in a tree, which is what he
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did.
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>> Cameron: He, like, took his bo staff. Like, took it away from. And then.
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>> Cameron: And then you kept them. Bill just kept saying the same thing over and
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over, which was, give me back my bo staff. And then you started
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calling him mister, gimme back my boast.
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>> Cameron: Well, mister, give me back my boast.
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>> Skylar: Connor, I think exactly what you just described is every
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DM's nightmare, where a player goes so off
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this. Like, one single player goes so off the script that
17:33
it just, like, there is no plot anymore. There's nothing
17:36
I can even build off of there. It's just gone. All right, you
17:39
guys have a nice day. You guys go to bed at
17:42
08:00 p.m. congratulations.
17:46
>> Cameron: What a great one shot.
17:47
>> Skylar: What a great one shot.
17:48
>> Cameron: I think of all the episodes, though, I think mine and Bill's one
17:51
shot was one of my favorites.
17:53
>> Skylar: That's fair.
17:53
>> Cameron: That one. And the OSHA.
17:55
>> Skylar: Oh, the Osha was so good. Coming off
17:58
of the.
17:59
>> Cameron: So I'm catching a theme where you're just letting Brock go off
18:01
the rails.
18:03
>> Cameron: Cause, I mean, Brock just.
18:05
>> Mikayla: Okay. But Skyler's very much the guy who's like, you know what? I'm
18:08
interested to see how that plays out.
18:10
>> Cameron: Yeah. Yeah. For sure.
18:11
>> Cameron: You can't just have a guy conjure up a clipboard and walk
18:14
his way into a factory.
18:15
>> Skylar: And yet, I mean,
18:18
to be fair, I mean, you look at, like, the avatar last airbender
18:21
cartoon, and, yeah, they.
18:22
>> Cameron: Did a lot of.
18:24
>> Skylar: There's some crazy, wild, goofy stuff that they managed to pull off,
18:27
and you're like, it's believable. I
18:30
could see a bit. It's what they always say. If you were in the right outfit
18:33
and you walk in with the right amount of confidence, you can pretty much get
18:36
in anywhere. I think that truly does
18:38
apply here.
18:40
>> Cameron: I suppose it does.
18:41
>> Skylar: Yeah. I have one question, and I it's one of the
18:44
sort of last questions that I have, just jumping over to
18:47
Tamika. Dude, what the heck? We had a whole
18:49
thing about your blood bending, like, planned out,
18:52
and you never touched it. It was mentioned
18:55
in the prequel bender. Yeah. She's been a blood vendor
18:58
the whole time. That was, like, Bill's a firebender
19:01
thing.
19:01
>> Mikayla: With my whole backstory. M
19:04
my mom basically was killed because I was a blood bender.
19:07
>> Skylar: Right. That's true.
19:08
>> Mikayla: So it's not like I was waiting for and
19:11
more opportune time Mika kill her mom?
19:13
>> Skylar: Like.
19:14
>> Mikayla: No, like, you know, like, how Bill had his whole.
19:16
Oh, wait. I'm ash, and I'm a firebender. I
19:19
was waiting for a moment like that for Mika, where
19:22
she would have to almost be forced to
19:25
use it.
19:25
>> Cameron: A natural way to put it in.
19:27
>> Skylar: Yeah.
19:27
>> Cameron: Because I don't think Bill would have ever, I don't know,
19:30
done it if it wasn't for Mika spilling the.
19:33
And then Guo asking about his scars.
19:36
I don't think I would have naturally got into that.
19:38
>> Mikayla: Yeah. So I just don't know if Mika would have used her blood
19:41
bending for something as trivial as, I'm
19:44
gonna make this guy weak in the knees. You know what I mean?
19:47
>> Skylar: I can use my bend and snap for that.
19:49
>> Mikayla: Until she got to a point where
19:53
it wasn't seen as a bad thing. Cause, right now with her
19:56
tribe, it was seen as a very. You're a
19:59
witch, basically.
20:00
>> Skylar: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I know that was kind of. Yeah.
20:03
>> Mikayla: So that's probably why I literally did,
20:05
like. I was like, okay, let's see. Can I put
20:08
this in here and make it make sense for me?
20:11
And I. There wasn't a time that I felt.
20:13
>> Skylar: Like, yeah, that's fair.
20:14
>> Mikayla: Maybe I could do it.
20:16
>> Skylar: All right, then jump back to that question again. If there was
20:18
something that I could change, it would have been to make an
20:21
opportunity. You know, honestly, I would have thought to myself that
20:24
just. And I throw back to what I said earlier, like,
20:27
I feel like Mika got, or at least Mikayla
20:30
got most frustrated every time that Madam Yang got
20:33
away. That could have been. You're like,
20:35
no, freeze. And then also,
20:39
I could have,
20:39
>> Mikayla: But I think at that point, I was just so used to not using it.
20:42
I don't know.
20:43
>> Skylar: Yeah.
20:43
>> Mikayla: So I guess that's something I would have changed.
20:45
>> Skylar: But speaking of which, that's gonna be terrifying when that shows up in
20:48
the live action show.
20:50
>> Cameron: Oh, and the blood bending.
20:51
>> Cameron: Yeah.
20:51
>> Mikayla: Oh, yeah.
20:53
>> Cameron: I imagine it'll look like kind of in demon Slayer where you could see their
20:56
veins, like, pop up, like, really big.
20:58
>> Skylar: Yeah.
20:59
>> Cameron: Like, if they want to go gross with it, they can go so
21:02
gross with it.
21:03
>> Mikayla: I always have to.
21:04
>> Dave: Are they doing legends of Korra?
21:07
>> Skylar: Well, that was still avatar last airbender. That was season
21:10
three.
21:11
>> Cameron: They were in the.
21:12
>> Cameron: Were they in the fire nation?
21:13
>> Skylar: Yes. Right. Because she was living in the fire nation because she had been
21:17
captured, and m then she escaped, but she was
21:19
still. Because she was kind of, like, manipulating
21:22
the people to try to, like, draw him in, and then.
21:25
>> Cameron: Oh, yeah.
21:26
>> Skylar: Like, that was season three.
21:28
Yeah, somewhere in there. But anyway, sorry, that's not about our
21:31
show. I mean, sort of.
21:34
>> Cameron: It's about the source material.
21:35
>> Skylar: That's right. That's right. Who's. Who's. I don't even know where
21:38
we're at.
21:38
>> Cameron: But I have two questions left.
21:40
>> Cameron: But I think I'm all done.
21:42
>> Cameron: Out of questions.
21:42
>> Skylar: Okay. You're out of questions.
21:43
>> Cameron: Yeah. My first one was for Guo.
21:45
>> Skylar: Okay.
21:46
>> Cameron: does Guo ever run into any of his friends from the circus
21:49
again?
21:49
>> Mikayla: He did run into that one guy.
21:51
>> Cameron: I mean, like, just in the future, do you think
21:54
any of his friends he would have
21:57
rekindled a relationship with?
21:59
>> Dave: I would think so. I mean, people probably don't
22:02
stay with the circus forever. so they
22:04
might. Or it might come to town and he might
22:07
go see it. M. so I
22:10
think he definitely would. And he,
22:13
Mirabelle is kind of like his childhood,
22:17
crush. I'm. He's still a child, so
22:21
who knows? He might try to rekindle that,
22:24
pursue that in the future. Or he might
22:27
just try to go for his favorite actress,
22:29
Fatima. Quick,
22:34
get her to sponsor the shop
22:37
in the future.
22:39
>> Skylar: that's right. You know, actually,
22:42
one of the ideas that I had for a plot line as far
22:45
as trying to, like, get a kind of an emotional moment, and this would
22:48
obviously was never planned. This is something I thought of, like, recently
22:51
would have been, the circus
22:54
comes to some space that Guo is
22:57
traveling to. Probably doesn't make sense that it be in gaoling, but I think
23:00
somewhere else in the earth nation, and Guo just
23:03
happens to be there. Maybe he's doing his.
23:05
>> Mikayla: They sell the fox dog.
23:11
>> Skylar: Circus. Somebody at the.
23:12
>> Cameron: Wow. This needs to happen.
23:14
>> Skylar: Right? All right, all right. So, yeah, okay.
23:16
Maybe that's what happens.
23:17
>> Cameron: Whatever the case, one shot.
23:19
>> Skylar: Yeah. Guo ends up at the circus or
23:22
the carnival, and there's a couple
23:25
that's also at the carnival, and they're asking
23:28
about. There was a kid,
23:31
we more or less sold him to the carnival
23:34
when he was little, when he was born. Like,
23:37
do you guys know where he is? Do you know where this Chang dude
23:40
is? That's who we sold him to. You know, all this kind of stuff.
23:43
And guo overhears that and, like, I don't know. I feel like there could have
23:46
been something pretty intense there. maybe I would have been a
23:49
bit more subtle with it, but that was kind of one idea that I did
23:51
think of recently, and I was like, dang, that'd be, that's
23:54
a way to work in quo stuff, but kind of
23:57
tie all those loose ends. What was your other question, Cameron?
24:02
>> Cameron: The question for Brock Connor.
24:04
>> Skylar: Yeah.
24:04
>> Cameron: And it was actually a question I had.
24:07
>> Cameron: Okay.
24:08
>> Cameron: And that was just curious because you never really
24:11
talked about it in your prequel, that stuff. Right. It was
24:14
just, how long were you fighting in the earth
24:16
rumble arena, and what was your
24:19
record?
24:20
>> Cameron: Well, I know for a fact he's lost at least one
24:23
fight.
24:23
>> Cameron: Okay.
24:24
>> Cameron: Because in my prequel episode, he
24:27
lost.
24:27
>> Skylar: Right. but then he also won.
24:30
>> Cameron: He also won. So he's at least one in one from what we know.
24:33
>> Cameron: Okay.
24:33
>> Cameron: But, I. So,
24:36
Brock, whenever he was broken out of the
24:39
prison by his,
24:42
bestest friend, platonic friend
24:44
Sora, when he was broken out
24:47
of prison by Sora, he was kind of tunneled under gowling.
24:50
And he was, he sort of popped up with Mister
24:53
Okaron. And so from that point to when
24:56
benders and brews takes place, about how long, how much time has passed?
24:59
Like a year.
24:59
>> Skylar: Yeah. Ah, like a year at most.
25:01
>> Cameron: So he had been kind of looking for other money. So I
25:04
guess after, like, maybe a week, he went and saw earth
25:07
rumble and was like, I could probably do this. So I would imagine he'd been
25:10
doing it for probably at least six months
25:13
to a year ish. He wasn't
25:16
good.
25:16
>> Skylar: Right.
25:17
>> Cameron: his main goal was to be the guy who's like the fill in
25:20
fighter. Like, if someone has an injury or
25:23
something, he's the guy that just steps up like, hey, we need you tomorrow.
25:26
Come in, take this l. And we're gonna
25:29
give you a bunch of money. He'd be that guy.
25:31
>> Skylar: Was he the fall guy or he wins sometime.
25:34
>> Cameron: Not like the fall guy, but he'd be like the tune up
25:37
fight.
25:37
>> Skylar: Okay.
25:37
>> Cameron: Like, Cause earth rumble's real, obviously. Like, wrestling is real.
25:40
Yeah, it's all real.
25:42
>> Skylar: It's all real.
25:43
>> Cameron: so he would be the guy that they would call in
25:45
on short notice, like, hey, we just need a body in here
25:48
for this dude to fight. Come
25:51
in. We're gonna pay you, x amount of money.
25:54
>> Skylar: Okay.
25:54
>> Cameron: And so he would do that. So he lost a
25:57
lot.
25:58
>> Cameron: Okay.
25:58
>> Cameron: We'll say he was like
26:00
five and
26:03
15. Five and 15.
26:06
A respectable loser. There
26:09
you go.
26:09
>> Skylar: One in three.
26:11
>> Cameron: He had some wins.
26:12
>> Cameron: Yeah, he had some wins where he just stepped up and he was like, you know what?
26:15
It was my night. There's my night. I got a hold of
26:17
him and we, we pulled through.
26:20
>> Skylar: Yeah.
26:21
>> Cameron: And then 15 other times.
26:23
>> Skylar: He was not, he was not. That makes
26:26
a lot of sense.
26:26
>> Cameron: I like that.
26:26
>> Skylar: yeah, because, I mean, all things considered, not to, not to
26:29
be that guy, but part of the reason why you won was because the
26:32
guy had been drinking a whole lot.
26:34
>> Cameron: Yeah.
26:35
>> Skylar: In the prequel, which I think it's mentioned in there, but,
26:38
yeah, so he.
26:39
>> Cameron: he was not the greatest fighter, but it was
26:42
like a nacho libre situation where he was, he ate
26:45
the eagle egg. It was more
26:48
like nacho libre in the
26:51
sense where he, I mean, sure, in the movie he wanted to win,
26:53
but it was more like win or lose, you get paid money.
26:56
And then he would take that money and give it to him.
26:58
>> Skylar: You would buy chips for the orphans.
27:00
>> Cameron: Buy chips for the orphans.
27:01
>> Cameron: That's right.
27:01
>> Cameron: he would give him, like, a salad.
27:03
>> Skylar: You'd get him a salad.
27:04
>> Cameron: But, yeah, it was more than, like, the money from earth rumble he
27:07
would send back to his family.
27:08
>> Skylar: Right.
27:09
>> Cameron: And then the money from the blissful brew is what he would live off of,
27:12
right?
27:12
>> Skylar: And take pirate ladies on dates with.
27:14
>> Cameron: Take pirate ladies on dates with, which they definitely
27:17
enjoyed.
27:20
>> Skylar: I mean, that sounds so force.
27:21
>> Cameron: I am trying so hard to make him.
27:23
>> Skylar: You're gonna love this tea.
27:24
>> Cameron: It's amazing. No, I cannot love.
27:27
>> Cameron: And yes, I can.
27:28
>> Dave: From hot, leaf tea.
27:29
>> Cameron: Yeah. That could have been his whole thing. Like, oh, this
27:32
tea is terrible. And he's just making a scene like
27:35
this. M brand tea
27:38
is the worst I have ever drank. I will be taking
27:41
my patronage elsewhere.
27:44
>> Cameron: Brock would say patronage elsewhere
27:47
and elsewhere.
27:48
>> Skylar: I do imagine Brock coming in with a fancy
27:51
mustache. This
27:54
is quite disgusting tease.
27:56
>> Cameron: This is.
27:59
>> Dave: Sora helped him fine tune the script.
28:04
>> Mikayla: Speaking of hot leaf juice,
28:07
pizza time 69 wants to know what happened to it.
28:10
>> Skylar: Ooh. So I guess, I mean, that kind of plays into that idea that I
28:13
had before, right? So. But at the same time,
28:16
I feel like answering it that way is saying that, like, there's
28:19
the potential for continuation. I like the plot
28:22
line that we were coming up with where Bill has to join
28:25
the Fire Nation, and it comes over and it gets really intense from there.
28:28
With that being said, I don't see a whole lot of
28:30
space for the idea of hot leaf juice
28:33
and the gang kind of. And also, Bill's gone,
28:36
so, why the gang's not going to get back together to go take down hot
28:39
leaf juice in various locations. Whitney and Chicra. Mike,
28:42
what's that?
28:43
>> Mikayla: Mika?
28:44
>> Skylar: Mika and Chica. Now there's a good fly, too.
28:47
Is that Mika? Mika and Chicra go and do
28:50
a more with their investigative gate
28:52
of their investigation
28:55
business. They, like, go and they get
28:58
more proof. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They get more proof about, like,
29:01
the orphans and the exploitation and stuff. And then
29:04
that leads to, from a national level, to
29:07
some extent, hot leaf juice gets shut down. That's,
29:10
that's how I imagine it. So
29:13
there you go.
29:14
>> Cameron: Cool.
29:15
>> Skylar: Yeah, it's a happy ending there.
29:19
Or at the very least, it gets
29:22
pushed back to the fire nation. Like, nobody in the
29:25
other nations wants anything to do with them. they close down their locations
29:28
in the earth nation and anything that might be in the water nation
29:31
or. I don't. I think the only nation I didn't have
29:34
anybody in a hot leaf juice in was the,
29:37
the, air nation, because I was like, I cannot
29:40
find a way to justify this. It just doesn't make sense. They don't have money. They don't do
29:43
money. They, like, trade or just give each other what they need.
29:46
They're not like that. What. What would Madam Yang
29:49
gain? So I think that was the only one that didn't have any. Plus, they're gonna
29:52
get destroyed anyway, so
29:56
air nation's not gonna be around much longer.
29:58
>> Mikayla: So I didn't care about them. They're gonna die.
30:00
>> Skylar: That's not my choice. That's what the creators did.
30:04
Dave? Yeah? You got anything left?
30:06
>> Cameron: Yeah.
30:06
>> Dave: Maybe that's why none of us chose, to be an
30:09
airbender.
30:09
>> Skylar: Yeah, right. When did you say you were gonna start this? The
30:12
beginning of the hundred year war. Oh, Skylar, that's.
30:16
>> Dave: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that show's called the last
30:18
airbender,
30:21
except for this one guy.
30:23
>> Skylar: That would be hard to justify.
30:25
>> Dave: It's a question from bongo number
30:28
five. If you could have
30:30
played one of the. Oh, this is for Skylar.
30:33
If you could have played one of the NPC's in the
30:36
series, which one would you choose?
30:40
>> Skylar: Probably, like, if I played him as a
30:43
character, man,
30:46
everybody really liked. What was his
30:48
name? The canadian guard
30:51
guy.
30:51
>> Cameron: Oh, no.
30:55
>> Skylar: He would have been funny too, though.
30:56
>> Cameron: The canadian guard. Kido.
30:57
>> Skylar: Kido, yes. Everybody loved Kido. I
31:00
feel like that would. And I had fun doing the voice for
31:03
it. I feel like it would be him. Yeah, because he's just
31:06
ridiculous. I feel like he would have been like that. Just kind of a dumb
31:09
dude, but like, a nice dumb dude that everybody loves.
31:12
Lovable dumb dude.
31:13
>> Cameron: Like cronk.
31:14
>> Skylar: Yeah, like cronk.
31:15
>> Cameron: Exactly what your voice was very similar to. Yeah, that's
31:18
kind of what I was going for much.
31:19
>> Cameron: Yeah.
31:20
>> Cameron: Felt like Cronk just showed up in our campaign.
31:25
Squeaker, squeak, squeak.
31:26
>> Skylar: No, I think one of my
31:29
favorite. Oh, my gosh. What if you could talk to.
31:31
>> Cameron: I think one of my favorite jokes throughout the whole thing and wasn't
31:34
even a joke. It was like, kind of like the. The dad
31:37
joke, that, What kind of thing?
31:40
>> Cameron: What do you like doing without your dad?
31:42
>> Cameron: Yeah, it's like that. It was this off the cuff moment. It was. It
31:45
was completely off the cuff for Keto,
31:47
where he said, I heard a.
31:50
>> Skylar: Was a sneeze.
31:55
>> Cameron: A little bit of a cough. And he just.
31:58
You asked him, and I asked what it sound like.
32:01
He's like, oh, it sounded like this.
32:04
>> Skylar: And then. And then like some, I think Dave, that was
32:07
when you started.
32:07
>> Cameron: Dave then threw something at him
32:10
into.
32:11
>> Skylar: His face, and he goes.
32:14
>> Cameron: It was.
32:15
>> Skylar: The exact same cop.
32:18
>> Cameron: And Bill's just like, well, we got him.
32:21
I think it was just like,
32:24
it was, it's one of those, like, the way you
32:27
did the cough was the exact
32:30
same way you did the first cough. And you didn't
32:33
mean to do it.
32:33
>> Skylar: I did not mean.
32:34
>> Cameron: That was the funniest thing I try.
32:36
>> Skylar: It's the limits of my voice capabilities. It's like, I
32:39
don't normally do this character. This is
32:42
very much like forcing my voice to do something.
32:45
>> Cameron: I don't think I've laughed that hard. That was
32:48
the exact same cough. And I was like, case solved,
32:51
right?
32:51
>> Skylar: There he is, booking.
32:55
That was pretty great.
32:57
>> Dave: I do have another question.
32:58
>> Skylar: Absolutely.
32:59
>> Dave: I'm here for Bill
33:01
doar. what
33:04
was it like hiding such a huge secret
33:07
for almost the entire series?
33:11
>> Skylar: That's a good question.
33:12
>> Dave: Oh, Bill's fire bending.
33:15
>> Cameron: Yeah, I was gonna say which
33:18
secret? Because he also hid his name for a while,
33:21
too.
33:22
>> Cameron: You revealed your name way sooner than you.
33:24
>> Cameron: Oh, yeah, very much. His bigger secret was definitely the
33:27
firebending. And it wasn't. See, that's the hard thing
33:30
about the, the fire bending. It
33:32
wasn't. So
33:35
when Skyler and I were talking
33:38
about how Bill would reveal it,
33:41
Skyler was asking if he wanted me to do
33:43
specific. Like, he was worried that I would maybe do it
33:46
in combat or something like that in a moment or was I gonna
33:49
have a big moment for it or something like that. And he was just concerned
33:52
when the timing would be for it. And I told him
33:55
that Bill would never use his
33:58
firebending until, like, his last
34:01
resort. Right. Which,
34:03
because of his trauma, and
34:06
he was afraid of his firebending, and so, like, he
34:09
was afraid to use it around anyone. He was afraid he'd hurt someone
34:12
else. Right. So it wasn't that I was hiding
34:15
his firebending. It was that Bill was afraid of his
34:18
firebending, and so, or ash was afraid of his fire bending.
34:21
So it helped that it wasn't that hard to hide
34:23
it because of the fact that when you're afraid of something,
34:27
you always are trying to avoid it. Right. And so Bill was always
34:30
trying to avoid it. And the only reason I used it in that
34:32
one episode, and revealed
34:35
it was because it was, I felt like it was a very
34:38
important moment for Bill's character to,
34:41
like, he needed to use
34:44
his powers again to forgive himself
34:47
and not take on that blame of his
34:50
brother's death anymore because it was an accident
34:53
and he did everything he could to save him, and
34:56
he couldn't keep that anymore. And that's why I used it. So it
34:59
wasn't. So initially, when I created the idea for
35:02
Bill, I thought he was going to use his power in, like, a moment
35:05
of desperation, like our, I, imagined, like, our group was
35:07
trapped. And he had, he always had this ability called pyro wall, which
35:10
is the one I used. And it was this defensive wall
35:13
because Bill was trained to be a defender type, so he always tried to use his
35:16
firepowers for defensive purposes. so he
35:19
had this ability the whole game. and, it
35:22
was taking up a slot. It was. I also was trying to hide my
35:25
character sheet from people all the time.
35:28
I was constantly trying that. If I had to hide something, it was my
35:31
character sheet, because on the back, if flat up said pyre
35:33
wall.
35:34
>> Mikayla: Which was super annoying because I tried to look at your
35:37
sheets multiple times.
35:39
>> Skylar: You're so snoopy.
35:40
>> Mikayla: Well, he wasn't. Well, that, and, like, he wrote down a couple things. And
35:43
so I was, like, just trying to see, like, oh, what was that person's name? And I'd be
35:46
like.
35:51
>> Cameron: Pyro. And Skyler printed it onto it, so it wasn't even
35:54
in pencil. So I'm just like, it's there and I can't hide it.
35:57
So anyways, I thought when I had
36:00
that ability, I thought our group would be cornered and Bill
36:03
would step forward as the defender and use
36:06
this ability, and it would be a big moment. But then I
36:08
realized that moment's not gonna show up. And
36:11
that's okay because Bill needs to not
36:14
be forced to do it through the narrative, but he needs to make
36:17
that conscious decision and, like, forgive
36:20
himself and m make it
36:23
and stuff. I will say the, idea for how I came up
36:25
with Bill was, two parts.
36:28
One was because of Michaela and I were talking about characters
36:31
way before character creation. I don't remember what it was,
36:34
but we were joking about both of us making characters that
36:37
were one type of bender and then they were a different type of
36:40
bender. I think she remembers that.
36:42
And then we all had, like, a hidden twist to our characters.
36:45
>> Skylar: Yeah.
36:46
>> Cameron: And then she said, why don't you just be a firebender to round out our group
36:49
and stuff? And I said, no, I don't want to be a firebender. I would hate to be a
36:52
firebender. I'm gonna be like, zuko. I'd be like,
36:55
sora. M sokka. Thank you.
36:58
Too many times. Signed sora. But sokka, because
37:00
Sokka is my favorite character. So I'm like, I'll never be a firebender
37:03
firebenders are lame. I'm gonna be like, sokka. And then I knew saying
37:06
that to Mikayla's like, I have to
37:09
make a character that's secretly a firebender now because I said
37:12
that specifically to her. But then when I was trying to
37:15
craft, like, why would I have a firebender
37:17
that wouldn't want to use this firebending? That's when I,
37:20
then it, like, came up with this idea. It was like, what if I was a
37:23
firebender that was afraid of fire?
37:25
>> Skylar: Right?
37:25
>> Cameron: That's where I came up with ideas. Like, has that ever been in
37:28
Avatar? Is there a firebender afraid of fire? I was like, that's an
37:31
interesting idea. But then I had to be like, how does that come to
37:34
be? Right? Because, like, a firebender, how do you become
37:37
afraid of the thing you create? Right? It'd be like
37:39
saying earthbender is afraid of rocks. It's like, how do you,
37:42
how do you create that? And that's when I created the story of him
37:45
accidentally killing his brother. And then that's how he became afraid of
37:48
fire and all.
37:49
>> Skylar: Yeah. I mean, there was the moment when Aang was
37:51
learning, first learning to fire bend, and he
37:54
accidentally burns Katara in the process. And then he kind of swears
37:56
it off to some extent. Obviously, he changed that. But I digress.
37:59
>> Cameron: Yeah.
38:00
>> Skylar: Also, so two quick things along with that. So
38:03
just to clarify with everybody from the get
38:06
go, that was the plan. Like, we didn't just, like, come up with that part
38:09
way where we're like, oh, we need, like, some big crazy moment to
38:12
happen with one of the characters. Oh, my gosh. What if Bill was a
38:14
fight? Like, just to emphasize we truly had that
38:17
plan from the beginning that there was going to be that moment where
38:20
everything just changes and then it's revealed
38:23
that Bill is a firebiter. On a second note with that,
38:26
going back to Connor's question about what, are there any
38:29
hints? One thing that I thought of while you were talking about
38:32
your character sheet and stuff was the fact that, so
38:35
we did the Kickstarter project, when avatar
38:37
legends was pitched, right? And so
38:40
we were waiting for all the materials to come in. So once the materials came in, I was
38:43
able to hand stuff out to everybody. It comes
38:46
with four packets, like, for
38:48
note taking and stuff like that. And each packet has
38:51
symbology on it from one of the elements. So I
38:54
took the water bender booklet. I gave it to Michaela.
38:57
I had the earthbender booklet. I don't remember. Did I give it to
39:00
Guo or did I give it to Brock?
39:02
>> Cameron: I think you probably gave it to Brock.
39:03
>> Skylar: I think I did give it to Brock. I gave it to Brock. I had the airbender.
39:06
Anyone could have gotten that one. I handed it to Guo, and I
39:09
took the firebender book, and I gave it to
39:12
Bill just because,
39:15
and I hope that nobody with, I mean, the airbender one kind
39:18
of throws it off a little bit because otherwise it would have been, you know,
39:21
that much funnier. But I digress. Like, he did technically
39:24
have their booklet, and obviously the audience wouldn't know that.
39:26
>> Cameron: But there was one episode, I don't even remember what
39:29
it was, but it was when we're doing fun facts
39:32
and someone revealed, they're like, I'm
39:34
secretly, I'm secretly an airbender. I think it was like
39:37
Michaela was joking about Mika's. Like, I'm secretly, Mika's secretly
39:40
an airbender as well.
39:41
>> Cameron: Right.
39:41
>> Cameron: Whatever. and then, and then Connor, just on
39:44
a spur of whim, just went, I bet. I bet Bill's
39:47
secretly a fire. I remember that.
39:49
>> Skylar: Yes.
39:49
>> Cameron: And I think at the moment, I went hot. That's silly.
39:52
>> Cameron: And you're, like, sweating.
39:53
>> Cameron: You're, like, pulling your collar off. I thought it was
39:56
so funny that just out of nowhere, Brock, Bill, Connor's
39:59
just like, yeah, Bill's secretly a firebender, too. Jokingly
40:02
laughing. I'm just like, yeah, he is.
40:04
>> Skylar: But it would have been so funny if we had you over in the corner and you're just
40:07
sweating just like Jordan, Peele in that
40:10
skit where he's like, haha.
40:14
>> Cameron: Slapper.
40:15
>> Skylar: Huh? did anybody not get a question in from
40:18
their sheet, or did everybody, do we get through?
40:19
>> Cameron: I I guess I had one more, oh, Cameron
40:22
question, but how did you.
40:24
>> Cameron: Land on the name Bill door?
40:26
>> Cameron: Oh, did I not explain.
40:28
>> Mikayla: He did explain that.
40:30
>> Cameron: It's in my, it was in my prequel, but it
40:33
basically, I took inspiration from a, I
40:36
won't, I will say here, because I don't
40:39
want anyone to.
40:39
>> Mikayla: Be like, sure, you did it. When we all had that tender hearted
40:42
moment under the tree after I tried.
40:45
>> Cameron: To heal your burns, Brock definitely wasn't listening.
40:47
>> Cameron: No, I don't think it's, I said it then.
40:49
>> Mikayla: I'm pretty sure.
40:50
>> Cameron: Well, then what do you think it was?
40:52
>> Cameron: He saw
40:59
a guy on a pirate ship building a door. He's like, huh? He's
41:01
building the doors.
41:07
>> Mikayla: But he definitely was like, yeah. And then I looked at a door, and I was
41:10
like, it was, it.
41:12
>> Cameron: Was in the pre, I really thought it was, I think I told you
41:15
guys, just outside of character. But basically it
41:18
was, it was from Terry Pratchett book where there, there's a
41:21
character named Death. And he came back to become a human and
41:24
he didn't know what his name was when someone asked him what his name
41:27
was. And so what he did was he looked around and he saw
41:30
like a thing in the house. And he's like, that's my name. And they're like,
41:33
that's not a name. And so that's what Bill did. Basically.
41:36
Mister Okron confronted him. He was on the run, so he had to quickly
41:39
come up with a name. So he looked around the pirate ship and
41:41
he said, my name's Dor. And he
41:44
went, door. That's not a name. What are you talking about? Always
41:47
like, is he? And then Mister Oakland's like, is that your last name? And then
41:50
he's like, yeah, that's my last name. He's like, what's your first name? And Bill's
41:53
like, I don't know. Like, what are common names?
41:54
>> Skylar: You said, what are common names?
41:56
>> Cameron: Common names. And then he just started naming off names. I said
41:59
Bill. And I went, yeah, Bill, my name is Bill doar. And
42:02
then that's how Bill door, just.
42:04
>> Skylar: To clarify, if you haven't listened to the prequel, you definitely
42:06
should, I will say obligatory thing.
42:09
>> Cameron: I did find it funny that when Skyler named off names, he named
42:12
like Kai Jin
42:15
Ming Bill. And it was like an obvious, like,
42:18
not named like the other ones. And I was like, skylar, why didn't you
42:21
think of like, other, like, Jim Bob Bill? Like,
42:24
that would have made more sense, but whatever.
42:26
>> Skylar: So, we did, we did a one shot, Mikaela and I did a one
42:29
shot with flying Bison podcast. And I'll
42:31
never forget to, I had this idea for a character. I don't
42:34
remember what I had for his original name, but
42:37
I sent him the character sheet. And then, like, we were about
42:40
to get started, so everybody's in there in the room. And also, you
42:43
should definitely check out the flying by Bison podcast. If you enjoyed
42:46
the benders and brews, you should definitely check out those guys out because they're really
42:49
awesome. but we're all in the chat,
42:52
and the one running it, he says, hey, Skyler.
42:55
And I was like, what's up? And he's like, could you come up with a more
42:58
avatar esque name for your character? And
43:01
I was like, oh, Mandy. And I'm like,
43:04
well, okay, I messed up. So I had to click.
43:07
>> Cameron: If I was on their podcast, they would have made me change my name from Bill
43:10
Doerr.
43:10
>> Skylar: Maybe. Maybe. I think it's more just the fact
43:13
of like, you know, and I don't deny that I did pick
43:16
something that was probably out there. I probably picked like, Jasper
43:19
or. No, because even that feels like it could work.
43:22
It was so. I don't know. It was out there.
43:24
>> Cameron: I will say when I created the name Bill door, the idea
43:26
wasn't like it was supposed to seem like a. Yeah,
43:29
yeah, that was the point. It was supposed to be like an obvious fake
43:32
name. Right. And stuff.
43:33
>> Skylar: And wasn't fool.
43:35
>> Cameron: I think everyone in our group even was
43:37
like, it's clearly a fake name. And they just.
43:40
I think they even made jokes about it.
43:42
>> Skylar: m Mikaela explicitly making a joke about.
43:44
>> Cameron: But I will say mister Okra knew Bill's real
43:47
name, but. Because he would have revealed it to in some way. But Bill
43:50
never revealed to him that he was a firebender.
43:52
>> Skylar: Right.
43:53
>> Cameron: That he just kept secret.
43:54
>> Skylar: And I don't know if there's any reason that Mister overrun necessarily would have
43:57
known that, unless somehow he
44:00
met somebody along the way and saw information. I don't
44:03
know. But he definitely. Yeah. Would have known the name. And
44:05
>> Cameron: So I had one final question, really. And I was.
44:08
>> Skylar: That's what you said the last question.
44:09
>> Cameron: Well, then you told the roadmap Connor asked a question. That's what
44:12
was. But anyways, my question was, I talked about how
44:15
I created Bill.
44:16
>> Skylar: Yeah.
44:17
>> Cameron: And I wanted to know how the three of you created your characters.
44:20
>> Skylar: Like what was your and what was your
44:22
inspiration?
44:23
>> Cameron: I guess I'll start with Brock. Cause I feel like yours is the
44:25
simplest compared to the other two.
44:27
>> Cameron: So, yeah, basically I wanted to create a
44:30
character that was just
44:33
dumb as a post and didn't
44:36
have to use my brain a lot because this was something we were
44:39
doing in our spare time and I didn't want to have to do a ton of
44:42
thinking. Plus, it was like my
44:45
first character in a sort of D and D,
44:47
his first rpg.
44:49
>> Skylar: That's true.
44:49
>> Cameron: And I figured I'd go with one that matches closely
44:52
to a personality to my already
44:55
actual real life personality wealth.
44:57
Yes.
44:58
>> Mikayla: I don't know if I would agree with that.
44:59
>> Cameron: To be fair, most people, for their first, like, D and D
45:02
character rpg character, they typically make their first character very
45:05
similar to themselves. And that's also what I would recommend
45:08
as a DM, is make a character close to yourself. Cause it makes role
45:11
playing easier. Yeah. And then the more you play, the more
45:14
you learn. You can then start kind of pushing those bounds and
45:17
stuff.
45:17
>> Cameron: I feel like if I were to do another campaign, I would want to try and venture
45:20
out, do something that's not so close to a hard
45:23
headed personality. but it
45:26
was very fun to play with. I wanted to do one that was an
45:29
earthbender because I really liked Toph and the show. I
45:32
also felt that, like, firebender? Nah,
45:35
airbender. It's a prequel to the hundred year war, so
45:38
it's not gonna end up great for them. So I figured
45:41
Earthbender. Cause I also really liked the earth
45:44
rumble six episode where Toph beat the bowling.
45:46
>> Mikayla: Waterbender didn't even cross your body.
45:49
>> Skylar: No, no.
45:51
>> Cameron: So I want. So then I thought, okay, I'll build a
45:54
character that's basically like the kid who grows up to
45:57
be just like the boulder.
45:59
>> Cameron: The Boulder feels conflicted about fighting
46:02
a young blind girl.
46:05
>> Skylar: What an inspirational character. It's
46:08
funny you say that. You didn't. If you played again or
46:11
played a different TTRPG, you wouldn't want to play
46:14
a character that's just yourself, basically. But
46:16
ironically, and we have this coming out in November. We did a.
46:19
It's called Black Friday of the dead. It's an all flesh must be eaten
46:22
one shot. Kiva. And you literally. And to be fair, it was
46:25
forced on you. You literally play your
46:28
literally. Connor, you work as a news
46:31
reporter guy.
46:32
>> Cameron: I'm diabetic in the. Diabetic.
46:35
To be fair, that character was created without the
46:38
intention of me actually playing.
46:40
>> Skylar: That's also true. You were supposed to be an NPC of
46:42
yourself, and then you. It's very complex. So if that's
46:45
something you're interested in, keep an eye out for that in November.
46:48
But, what about Michaela? What was your
46:51
m back story to your. Not your backstory to
46:54
your character, but the character creation?
46:55
>> Mikayla: I don't know. I feel like I was talking to Cameron about character creations,
46:58
and I think I told him I'd do a waterbender or
47:01
firebender.
47:03
>> Skylar: How'd you lean on water?
47:05
>> Mikayla: I, think because I liked,
47:08
what's her face in the show.
47:09
>> Skylar: Katara. Yeah, fair enough.
47:15
>> Mikayla: and then I just wanted
47:17
something more unique. M that's why
47:20
the blood bending, which we never used,
47:23
was in there.
47:25
>> Skylar: It was always there. I was always one, like, at any
47:28
given moment, I wasn't sure if you were gonna bust that out.
47:31
And, I mean, I think there's people over here winking
47:34
at you aggressively.
47:34
>> Mikayla: Yeah, blood bend.
47:36
>> Skylar: Maybe now. And you didn't. But at the same
47:39
time, like, I'm always, like, wondering, is she gonna, You kept me on
47:42
my toes on that one all the way to the end,
47:45
man. My anxiety was spiked.
47:47
>> Mikayla: Still people, still people.
47:50
>> Cameron: Imagine how spiked it was because not only did she have blood
47:52
bending, but Bill had the, fire bending him the whole time. So he had
47:55
two different people who at any moment could just
47:58
burst. And you're like, oh,
48:01
finally ash revealed his abilities. But there's still
48:03
Mika.
48:06
>> Mikayla: I think there was one point where I was, like,
48:09
ready to use it, but I think somebody else
48:12
did something, and then I was like.
48:15
And then I didn't feel like it would be as meaningful.
48:18
>> Skylar: M. Yeah.
48:19
>> Mikayla: I don't know. Anyway, but. And then I feel like I always
48:22
play a, darker person.
48:25
>> Skylar: It's true. You like
48:28
playing the emo esque characters, edge lord.
48:31
>> Mikayla: But I feel like in the flying bison, I was not as
48:34
emo.
48:34
>> Skylar: Yeah, that's true. That's true.
48:35
>> Mikayla: So I did. If you want a different side of.
48:39
>> Skylar: That, check out that.
48:40
>> Mikayla: Really. Go check it out.
48:41
>> Skylar: You'll see. Yeah. The vendors and brews
48:44
characters mentioned, in there, so. Or, well,
48:47
our us as players, I guess. What about
48:50
Dave? What inspired Guo Hun? Where did
48:52
Guohan, where was he birthed from?
48:59
>> Dave: I think just like, trying
49:02
to think of backstories, like the circus.
49:05
And then I like the cliche
49:08
of running away from home to join the circus. I'm like, what if
49:11
I reversed that?
49:12
>> Skylar: Hey.
49:13
>> Dave: And then, so just like, this young
49:15
kid who is a little
49:18
vulnerable, is looking for a home somewhere to fit
49:21
in. guo in
49:23
chinese means, like wall. So, like,
49:26
I had the idea of, like, oh, he's got these walls built up around
49:29
himself. I didn't really get into
49:31
that that much. I mean, he was pretty friendly with
49:34
all you guys.
49:36
>> Cameron: it would have been weird having two very edgy
49:39
characters.
49:40
>> Dave: You know, I got a feel for the group
49:43
like Cameron's because I also had in mind, like, oh,
49:46
whoa. Could be like a defensive,
49:49
more defensive character. But then Cameron's character was kind of
49:52
offensive and, like, mika's character was kind of,
49:54
like, more shut off from people.
49:57
>> Skylar: Right.
49:57
>> Dave: So then I leaned into the more of, like, the, being the
50:00
youngest member,
50:03
kind of being goofy, like Aang is in the show.
50:06
Yeah, he's the youngest.
50:07
>> Skylar: I love it. Yeah, I think you nailed it too.
50:10
>> Mikayla: Like, the care free support, light hearted characters.
50:13
>> Cameron: Yeah. The carefree support.
50:15
>> Skylar: Yes.
50:15
>> Cameron: Stealing hats and snapping things.
50:18
>> Cameron: Yeah. Also, you becoming the captain.
50:21
>> Skylar: That was.
50:27
>> Dave: I almost said that one by, like, was that even recorded?
50:30
>> Cameron: Was that recorded?
50:33
>> Cameron: Things went, off.
50:34
>> Skylar: The thing that we lost was when you guys
50:37
were escaping the ship, and then I think we lost a bunch of that, so we
50:39
just had to reference it. So I just had you guys, like, basically, we
50:42
got up to the moment that you guys jumped off, and then we had to
50:45
rerecord you guys getting to shore. So it was almost like, a
50:48
weird cutscene.
50:49
>> Cameron: But we did have him pretending to be the captain.
50:51
>> Skylar: Right.
50:52
>> Cameron: Okay. That's all.
50:53
>> Cameron: Had the hat.
50:53
>> Cameron: That's all that matters.
50:54
>> Dave: Yeah, we did have that. Then, like, I think we stopped
50:57
recording, and then, like, I made another joke of,
51:00
like, I've got two peg
51:03
legs.
51:03
>> Skylar: I remember that.
51:04
>> Cameron: That was funny. I also like that it was a
51:07
post recording.
51:08
>> Skylar: Where was, you asked. It was Mister M. I think it was Mister Okaran
51:11
when you guys met him in the spirit world and stuff like that. And then, like, you
51:14
asked him, you're like, whatever happened to my captain's hat? And Mister
51:17
Okaran just says, I'm sorry, guo. It's at the
51:20
bottom of a very big ocean, because
51:23
it would have been when you guys jumped out.
51:24
>> Cameron: Well, you also referenced the hat multiple times
51:27
after that, too, so it was funny that, like, we all. I
51:30
did find that funny when we all went, we're talking Mister okra in spirit world,
51:33
and all of us asked, like, kind of important questions, and then Guo's just
51:36
like, where's my hat?
51:40
>> Mikayla: But that goes with being the youngest.
51:42
>> Cameron: That goes with. Yeah. dude.
51:43
>> Skylar: Oh, my gosh. And that would fit so well into the idea that
51:46
Guo has a floating island,
51:48
Restaurant.
51:49
>> Cameron: On the rest, we're looking for the.
51:52
>> Dave: Hat, and he'd have one piece.
51:54
>> Skylar: Yeah.
51:56
>> Dave: The hat's my treasure.
52:01
>> Skylar: Oh, my gosh.
52:03
>> Mikayla: I feel like with all of our one piece references,
52:06
we just need to do a spin off
52:09
because he said he's gonna be a pirate.
52:13
>> Cameron: I actually am working on a campaign that we're gonna
52:16
record in the future that is themed. It was a
52:19
combination of one piece and bioshock
52:21
infinite.
52:22
>> Skylar: Nice. Which.
52:23
>> Cameron: So the whole planet is island
52:25
nations, and the over top of the
52:28
island nations is a giant. Like, it's basically
52:31
water nations, one piece. And
52:34
then above it is a gigantic, like, cloud
52:36
country.
52:37
>> Cameron: Nice.
52:38
>> Skylar: So, yeah, so keep an eye out for an ear.
52:41
I always say that. Keep an ear out for that.
52:42
>> Cameron: I think I have a name for it, too, but
52:47
that's a good name. That's actually a board
52:50
game.
52:50
>> Skylar: It's a really fun.
52:51
>> Cameron: Oh, what was the hold on, hold on. I had a name. It
52:54
was based from a song, from the postal
52:56
company. Such great heights.
52:58
>> Skylar: Such great heights.
52:59
>> Cameron: That was the name of the.
53:01
>> Skylar: Oh, I think I know that song. Okay.
53:03
>> Cameron: Ah.
53:03
>> Cameron: Out of curiosity, because I just thought of this question. So,
53:06
Guo, not Nicole, Bill's final
53:09
thing was the fire thing.
53:12
Mika's, like, secret ability was the
53:15
blood bending. What was Guo's last
53:18
resort move? I don't know if you
53:21
ever used it.
53:21
>> Cameron: Well, no, I'm the only one that used my.
53:24
Well, I was the only one that used my moment of whatever it was.
53:27
>> Cameron: Moment of truth.
53:28
>> Cameron: Yeah.
53:28
>> Skylar: Were you ever hiding a secret from the game master?
53:31
>> Dave: No, it's Connors referring to the moment of
53:34
balance.
53:34
>> Cameron: Oh.
53:35
>> Dave: I. My character. I
53:38
kind of. I don't know. I
53:41
just like the role. Whatever
53:44
character, type I picked, I had trouble playing it,
53:47
kind of because it was supposed to be all about, like,
53:50
confiding in other people and, like, asking
53:53
for guidance, which you
53:56
think would be easier, but I don't know. I just struggle with.
53:58
>> Skylar: No, I mean, I'm right there with you. I mean, I think we can all
54:01
probably agree jumping into, because we came from a lot of, like,
54:04
d and d background and things like that. Jumping into
54:06
avatar legends, it's a very different game, even more so than,
54:09
like, we played monster of the week, which is also a
54:12
powered by the apocalypse game. And this felt
54:15
so vastly different just because there were so many of those kind of
54:18
emotional elements that they kind of, I don't want to say
54:21
forced, but, like, they've implemented a lot
54:24
of opportunity to engage with
54:26
things very. From an emotional standpoint, like, create
54:29
dialogue and stuff like that. And it's hard to come from
54:32
games where everything's so stat and role
54:35
focused into having such a
54:38
heavy role play game. So I was lost in, a
54:40
lot of that kind of stuff, too. I know that it took us maybe,
54:43
like, till season three to actually have a pretty solid
54:46
grasp on the rules, honestly, at some point. So,
54:49
yeah, don't. I wouldn't feel bad by any means, because
54:52
it. It's a very
54:55
weirdly complicated game for
54:57
being weirdly simple.
55:00
>> Cameron: But what was his like?
55:03
>> Dave: I would have to read it. it's something like
55:06
calling somebody to adhere to
55:09
their true values or something.
55:12
>> Cameron: to be fair, me and Michaela's didn't just
55:15
say, use your firebending.
55:18
Like, it's. It's just. It's basically
55:21
in the rules. It's basically a moment where you get a
55:24
pause the game and just
55:27
take control of the scene. You basically say
55:30
DM. it's basically an Aangs avatar state, right?
55:33
Oh, I was gonna reveal that in the AMA. Yes, I've seen the show.
55:36
I don't think I ever revealed that at all. But, yes,
55:43
that was the big catalyst. No, but there
55:46
was. But Aang's avatar state. And so it. The moment
55:49
of balance is basically your character's
55:52
avatar state, where basically you get this big moment where you
55:55
get to describe it. And basically the DM
55:57
steps back and says, yeah, take the scene. Right, which
56:00
is, for example, Bill's scene.
56:03
>> Skylar: Right? Like, you win.
56:04
>> Cameron: Yeah, you'll win the moment, and you get to do basically
56:07
whatever you want, which kind of. What was Brock doing the whole time?
56:10
But anyways, do whatever you
56:12
want. Do whatever you want.
56:16
>> Dave: I looked up. So Guo was the
56:19
adamanta. so his moment of balance was,
56:22
you've held true to a core conviction even while getting
56:25
your hands dirty to do what you deemed necessary.
56:28
But balance means appreciating that other people are
56:31
just as complex as you are, not merely obstacles
56:34
or pawns. Tell the GM m how you solve an
56:37
intractable problem or calm a terrible
56:40
conflict by relating to dangerous people on a
56:43
human level.
56:44
>> Cameron: I don't know. I just. Wow, that'd be a hard one
56:47
to Adam Yang.
56:50
>> Dave: And she's a monster.
56:54
>> Cameron: Yeah. What kind of situations did we find ourselves in
56:57
where that would have been applicable? Or would we have found any
56:59
situations where that would have been?
57:01
>> Cameron: Maybe more. Find the Fire nation guys.
57:03
>> Skylar: Mm
57:04
>> Cameron: Like, if we, like, if we ran into, like, a group of them
57:07
in that, like, that break in mission we did.
57:10
>> Skylar: Oh, yeah.
57:11
>> Cameron: Or maybe could have worked.
57:12
>> Skylar: Yeah.
57:13
>> Cameron: Yeah.
57:14
>> Dave: Like some of the horrif
57:17
employees who weren't totally brainwashed.
57:19
>> Skylar: or maybe it kind of unbroken, like, broke him out of it or something.
57:22
To some extent, that could have been. Yeah.
57:24
>> Cameron: But I don't know.
57:25
>> Skylar: You kind of did do that.
57:26
>> Dave: No.
57:26
>> Skylar: when you guys were escaping the factory, and then you sort of
57:29
shotgun to the pebbles to kind of.
57:31
>> Cameron: But he broke them out with damage and not with words, which is
57:34
what? His moment.
57:35
>> Skylar: Right.
57:35
>> Cameron: Balance. but, I mean, that could have.
57:37
>> Skylar: Been a really cool opportunity.
57:39
>> Cameron: Yeah.
57:39
>> Skylar: Yeah.
57:40
>> Cameron: He raises his flag above him. He goes,
57:43
we don't have to stand for this tyranny
57:46
no more. And then they all turn and they
57:49
see the rays of Gordon, the captain, now
57:52
behind him, and they all the
57:55
shades of, mind control falls away.
57:58
>> Skylar: That would have been awesome. Well, I think
58:01
that's all of the questions that we kind of had written down for
58:04
everybody. Want to thank, obviously, all of you guys for
58:07
playing the game, for being a part of this awesome story that
58:10
we got to tell. Obviously, I want to thank everybody that sent us
58:13
questions. Huge appreciation there. Want to
58:16
thank, obviously, everybody that listened for enjoying the
58:19
show. Hopefully. I'd assume if you listen this
58:21
far and, had a good time as we told this
58:24
amazing story.
58:27
It's been a long journey, but it was a lot of fun.
58:30
>> Cameron: Yeah.
58:31
>> Skylar: Be sure to check out our other series, obviously, all
58:34
our other one shots and other shows that sessions of your heroes. We're not
58:37
done telling stories. We're just closing this one out.
58:40
Just really want to emphasize that, whatever the case, we'll see
58:43
you guys next time on session Zero
58:45
heroes.
58:49
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58:52
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