Latest / Financial Survival Network / No Rate Hikes: The Bullish Market - Ted Thatcher #6416
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- 0:27Speaker 2: Welcome, this is Financial Survival Network. I'm your host, Carrie Let's. Well,
- 0:32Speaker 2: we got inflation numbers out, we got we got a
- 0:36Speaker 2: lot of info here. Is it all comes down to?
- 0:41Speaker 2: Is the Fed going to raise rates, cut rates, or
- 0:45Speaker 2: do nothing? Ted Thatcher is here to opine on this subject.
- 0:50Speaker 3: Here. What do you think of the numbers today?
- 0:55Speaker 4: You know, obviously, Kerry, coming into this week after all
- 0:57Speaker 4: the jobs data we got last week, eyes I think
- 1:00Speaker 4: have been fixed on the inflation data, which it seems
- 1:03Speaker 4: like it you know, almost always is. But you know,
- 1:06Speaker 4: obviously we saw a decrease here over here CPI three
- 1:09Speaker 4: point four percent. Core number is down as well, just
- 1:13Speaker 4: one tenth percent, although the month over month number increase
- 1:17Speaker 4: point two. Fundamentally, I think it's a good thing for
- 1:20Speaker 4: the Fed.
- 1:21Speaker 3: You know, if we double click.
- 1:23Speaker 4: Actually, nobody likes to see the core number go up,
- 1:25Speaker 4: and I think, honestly, I was a little hesitant when
- 1:28Speaker 4: I first read that print this morning that we saw
- 1:30Speaker 4: a core number go up byero point two percent. But
- 1:33Speaker 4: when you pop the hood and look under there, what
- 1:35Speaker 4: really drove that increase was two things. It was healthcare
- 1:38Speaker 4: services and transportation services, which specifically on the transportation services
- 1:43Speaker 4: side is driven heavily by airline fares. And we know
- 1:47Speaker 4: how much you know the price of barrel of oil
- 1:49Speaker 4: has gone up, and how that affects jet fuel, and
- 1:52Speaker 4: so I think the market was willing to sort of
- 1:54Speaker 4: shrub that off a little bit, which is why you
- 1:55Speaker 4: see the futures markets up this morning.
- 1:57Speaker 2: Yeah, So what is FED gonna do? Are they going
- 2:01Speaker 2: to cut or are they not going to cut?
- 2:04Speaker 4: You know, I think that what this report shows me
- 2:07Speaker 4: is that it's basically slammed the door on any hiking discussions.
- 2:11Speaker 4: You saw some weakening in the labor numbers last week.
- 2:14Speaker 4: When you put this with that, I don't necessarily see
- 2:18Speaker 4: a lowering at the September meeting. I think so much
- 2:21Speaker 4: of what I read into how worsh has come out
- 2:24Speaker 4: these first couple of meetings, it's really like he's trying
- 2:27Speaker 4: to win the credibility of the markets and really try
- 2:30Speaker 4: to stay a political and so I think that him
- 2:34Speaker 4: kind of holding steady in September because of that is
- 2:37Speaker 4: what I expect.
- 2:39Speaker 2: I wrote an article basically said in worsh we trust
- 2:47Speaker 2: you trust them?
- 2:48Speaker 3: Uh, you know, I do. I think that he has.
- 2:51Speaker 4: I mean, I actually think when I look at his background,
- 2:53Speaker 4: it's really strong and fundamentally when I think about, you
- 2:57Speaker 4: know that the tact he's taken, you know, he has
- 3:01Speaker 4: not tried to get out over his skis. But there
- 3:03Speaker 4: was a lot of this, I think discussion last couple
- 3:06Speaker 4: of weeks about the potential of a hike, and I
- 3:08Speaker 4: thought that that was overblown. And so you know, I
- 3:11Speaker 4: think the market is coming back to that belief, which
- 3:13Speaker 4: is that it is in fact overblown, probably just going
- 3:15Speaker 4: to stay steady, although that's certainly been my perspective, you know,
- 3:19Speaker 4: for a while.
- 3:21Speaker 3: So what does it.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Mean for investors? You know, like, let's drill down. You're
- 3:27Speaker 2: you know, obviously you're at different points in your life,
- 3:29Speaker 2: so different actions get taken. For somebody who's approaching retirement,
- 3:36Speaker 2: probably doesn't mean much because they're probably reallocating already.
- 3:39Speaker 3: What if you got ten twenty more years in the workforce.
- 3:42Speaker 3: What are you going to do? Yeah, well, you make
- 3:45Speaker 3: a really good point.
- 3:46Speaker 4: Depends on the stage of your investing career that you're in.
- 3:48Speaker 4: But I think it's ultimately bullish for investors when you
- 3:51Speaker 4: pair the type of earnings that we have seen coming
- 3:54Speaker 4: out of Q two with a you know, a cooling
- 3:58Speaker 4: sort of hiking and vironment right, I mean, we're not
- 4:01Speaker 4: going to get the hike, so we When you think
- 4:03Speaker 4: about equity valuations, obviously, fundamentally, first and foremost, it has
- 4:07Speaker 4: to be driven by profits. It has to be driven
- 4:09Speaker 4: by earnings, which we are seeing you know, over almost
- 4:12Speaker 4: all the SVP companies that report earnings almost ninety percent now.
- 4:17Speaker 3: With huge beats.
- 4:18Speaker 4: We're talking eighty five percent of companies are beating on
- 4:21Speaker 4: earnings margins of twenty five twenty seven, thirty percent. When
- 4:25Speaker 4: you put all that together, you know, and then you
- 4:27Speaker 4: pair that with what the Fed's doing. You know, if
- 4:29Speaker 4: obviously that we're going to hike, that can tamper valuation multiples.
- 4:34Speaker 4: But I don't expect that obviously, as we just discussed,
- 4:36Speaker 4: and so again very much I think bullish for.
- 4:39Speaker 2: Investors here, all right, So what other numbers we got.
- 4:43Speaker 2: The job numbers really weren't so great, but they weren't
- 4:46Speaker 2: that bad. Most of the declines in the jobs came
- 4:50Speaker 2: from the public sector, so you could argue that those
- 4:53Speaker 2: people basically weren't doing anything anyway.
- 4:57Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, obviously, when you read a that goes
- 5:00Speaker 4: down four point two percent to four point one percent unemployment,
- 5:04Speaker 4: you think right away, hey, that's a good sign. And
- 5:06Speaker 4: to your point, you're right, most of the job loss
- 5:09Speaker 4: with public sector. But really, what I think stood out
- 5:11Speaker 4: to me when I pop up it on that figure specifically,
- 5:14Speaker 4: carry is the labor force participation rate. We saw literally
- 5:17Speaker 4: an exodus of almost a quarter million jobs, and so
- 5:21Speaker 4: when you see that kind of fall off, that is
- 5:24Speaker 4: really what I'm I would say, more concerned with in
- 5:26Speaker 4: the labor market right now. That brought the labor force
- 5:29Speaker 4: participation rate to sixty one percent, which really is as
- 5:33Speaker 4: low as it's been since COVID, And so that's really
- 5:35Speaker 4: you know, what I would say I have my I
- 5:37Speaker 4: on right now when it comes to the label market.
- 5:39Speaker 2: Is that a lot to baby boomers like my generation,
- 5:44Speaker 2: retiring faster than they can be replaced. Is it AI
- 5:49Speaker 2: getting rid of jobs? Is what are you attributed to?
- 5:53Speaker 4: You know, I think that there is this push and
- 5:55Speaker 4: you can see this in some interesting recording and data
- 5:57Speaker 4: that's coming out now where, because we've seen equity valuations
- 6:02Speaker 4: go up so substantially the last you know, several years.
- 6:04Speaker 4: Actually it's pushing those later in their working career to say, oh,
- 6:10Speaker 4: I actually might be able to retire a little bit
- 6:12Speaker 4: earlier than I initially expected. And so obviously that comes
- 6:16Speaker 4: down to everyone's specific financial needs, how much assets they've
- 6:19Speaker 4: built up in their nets day compared to how much
- 6:21Speaker 4: you know, of course they need to spend every month.
- 6:23Speaker 4: But it's an interesting dichotomy because as the market, the
- 6:27Speaker 4: financial markets have done so well, it sort of affected
- 6:29Speaker 4: main street and the everyday you know consumer in a
- 6:33Speaker 4: very different way.
- 6:34Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 6:34Speaker 2: Well, we follow a unique index here in Florida. It's
- 6:39Speaker 2: called the Palm Beach Trophy Wife Index, and the initially
- 6:45Speaker 2: it was flashing warning signs. But now in the past
- 6:49Speaker 2: couple of weeks, the pbt WI as we call it is,
- 6:56Speaker 2: seems to be positive.
- 6:58Speaker 3: Now it seems to be green.
- 7:00Speaker 2: We're seeing more private jet landings at the airports.
- 7:05Speaker 3: In the area.
- 7:06Speaker 2: And well now we no longer have pom Beach International.
- 7:10Speaker 2: It's now President Donald J. Trump International. But putting all
- 7:14Speaker 2: that aside, the index is seems to be flashing bullish.
- 7:20Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say, you have to send me
- 7:22Speaker 4: that one. I'll have to put that on my weekly readout.
- 7:24Speaker 3: I like that new new monitoring.
- 7:28Speaker 2: Yeah, we we we we track list pendence filed in
- 7:34Speaker 2: Palm Beach on the Island three three four eight oero
- 7:36Speaker 2: is the ZIP divorce petitions, UCC filings, bankruptcies because if
- 7:44Speaker 2: it's if it's going south there, if it's going bad,
- 7:47Speaker 2: and then we try to get traffic estimates. Now that's
- 7:51Speaker 2: seasonal obviously, but the the index has a basis in fact.
- 7:56Speaker 2: So any of you out there want more information and
- 8:00Speaker 2: on the Palm Beach Trophy Wife Index, just shooting an
- 8:03Speaker 2: email kl at carrie lets dot com and we will
- 8:08Speaker 2: we'll start publishing a dashboard and we'll hook you into
- 8:11Speaker 2: a tip.
- 8:12Speaker 3: I like it.
- 8:13Speaker 4: You know, obviously there's so many ways you can read
- 8:15Speaker 4: the markets and a lot of that type of metadata
- 8:17Speaker 4: that's harder to track bringing it in one place. It's
- 8:20Speaker 4: obviously a funny name, but can actually inform a lot.
- 8:24Speaker 2: Hey, it's a if those people aren't spending, and they're
- 8:28Speaker 2: going to know if things are heading south.
- 8:30Speaker 3: They know before anybody. Yeah, it's like it's.
- 8:34Speaker 2: Like gazelle's out in the field. The second the tigers
- 8:39Speaker 2: starts sneaking up, they're all on red alert. They're all
- 8:43Speaker 2: looking around for the threat. And that's what the trophy
- 8:46Speaker 2: wife index indicates to us. So hey, but we got
- 8:51Speaker 2: some other indexes we're working on as well. We got
- 8:54Speaker 2: the marital counterparty risk index, because you know, counterparty risk
- 9:02Speaker 2: is a very real threat in this day and age.
- 9:04Speaker 2: Just getting back to crude though eighty three bucks. We've
- 9:08Speaker 2: seen it higher, we've seen it lower. Obviously, it was
- 9:11Speaker 2: down in the sixties. Back when President Trump captured Nicholas Madura,
- 9:19Speaker 2: he had Exxon and a bunch of oil companies in
- 9:24Speaker 2: there to subtly or not so subtly twist their arms
- 9:28Speaker 2: to basically drill and produce out of Venezuela. And the
- 9:34Speaker 2: head of Exon said, you're crazy. You know, we can't
- 9:38Speaker 2: make any money in Venezuela of oil is under sixty
- 9:41Speaker 2: five dollars a barrel. Well, we seem to have cured
- 9:44Speaker 2: that problem. And then the production in Venezuela has more
- 9:47Speaker 2: than doubled your tip.
- 9:49Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, obviously, I think all eyes really have
- 9:52Speaker 4: been on the price of oil. It's such a consequential commodity.
- 9:58Speaker 4: It's obviously so much of this and again off again
- 10:01Speaker 4: again off again relationship with we've had with Iran just continues.
- 10:05Speaker 4: Fundamentally from a consumer standpoint, I do think that the
- 10:09Speaker 4: straightest line for consumer relief, certainly in their day to
- 10:13Speaker 4: day expenses, is going to be that coming down a
- 10:15Speaker 4: little bit to your point. Of course, the oil companies
- 10:18Speaker 4: and the productivity out of Venezuela is a lot more
- 10:21Speaker 4: profitable and across you know, the globe is more profitable
- 10:24Speaker 4: when oil is high. But obviously the punishes the consumer
- 10:28Speaker 4: in a way that I think that the administration would
- 10:30Speaker 4: like to see relieved, especially going into the selection cycle.
- 10:33Speaker 3: Right.
- 10:34Speaker 2: So, yeah, you know, but eighty dollars oil adjusted for inflation.
- 10:39Speaker 2: You know, obviously it's higher than where they would like,
- 10:42Speaker 2: but it's spurring production in the United States and in
- 10:47Speaker 2: countries all over the world such as Venezuela with higher
- 10:51Speaker 2: per barrel production costs.
- 10:53Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I think that you know, the energy
- 10:56Speaker 4: independence we've seen out of the United States during the
- 11:00Speaker 4: conflict that Iran broadly has been actually a highlight. You know.
- 11:03Speaker 4: The truth is is this has affected the United States certainly,
- 11:06Speaker 4: but a lot less than a lot of other countries.
- 11:08Speaker 4: And I think it's part and parcel of the importance
- 11:10Speaker 4: and argument for why we need to be independent on
- 11:13Speaker 4: some of the other high you know, technological manufacturing capabilities.
- 11:19Speaker 4: You know, we saw all the announcements around Tara fab
- 11:21Speaker 4: elon Musk you know, build out to essentially go from
- 11:25Speaker 4: raw materials all the way to high fab semiconductors and
- 11:29Speaker 4: chips at the other end of it. That's a really
- 11:31Speaker 4: great example I think of how hopefully we can more
- 11:34Speaker 4: and more on shore of those type of technologies because
- 11:37Speaker 4: of situations like this. It's Iran today, but who knows
- 11:40Speaker 4: what it's going to be tomorrow, obviously.
- 11:42Speaker 2: And the you know, just the idea that they're going
- 11:44Speaker 2: to bypass the strait of horror moves with pipelines, which
- 11:49Speaker 2: will greatly lessen the world's vulnerability. They should have done
- 11:54Speaker 2: this before. They did take certain measures like the pipeline
- 11:57Speaker 2: across Saudi Arabia and others, but now the time is
- 12:02Speaker 2: do these mega projects bypass it and then let Iran
- 12:07Speaker 2: rot And one trend. I feel ted that is really
- 12:11Speaker 2: being ignored by the mainstream financial press is the impending
- 12:18Speaker 2: collapse and hopefully eventual freedom of Cuba. That's going to
- 12:23Speaker 2: have dramatic ramifications for the Southeast, all of the logistics
- 12:27Speaker 2: ports and Puerto Rico. You know, it's been completely ignored
- 12:31Speaker 2: by the financial press because the United States by necessity,
- 12:37Speaker 2: is going to have to jump in there and do
- 12:40Speaker 2: some serious infrastructure rebuilds on Cuba. My sources tell me
- 12:46Speaker 2: they're already prepositioning a lot of the supplies, the emergency supplies,
- 12:51Speaker 2: the initial water purification systems and electrical systems, microgrids to
- 12:57Speaker 2: restore those people because they're living in a world of
- 13:01Speaker 2: hell right now. This is a bullish thing, especially for
- 13:05Speaker 2: the state of Florida, that nobody is seems to be
- 13:10Speaker 2: taking account of.
- 13:11Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's almost like it's that old adage, right,
- 13:14Speaker 4: if it bleeds, it leads, because it's not like the
- 13:16Speaker 4: acute fixation of the headlines that maybe it's not covered
- 13:22Speaker 4: or ignored even you're absolutely right though, it's a super important,
- 13:26Speaker 4: very critical area from a logistics standpoint, and you know,
- 13:31Speaker 4: obviously we'll see what happens there, but you could absolutely
- 13:35Speaker 4: read that into it. If those things were to change
- 13:38Speaker 4: in the US had to step in, it could be
- 13:40Speaker 4: a you know, very critical area kind of a very
- 13:43Speaker 4: different way. You know, obviously the administration has talked about
- 13:46Speaker 4: all those headlines with Greenland and why you know, you know,
- 13:50Speaker 4: that would be a strategic area as well. Obviously, again,
- 13:54Speaker 4: very different situation in Cuba, but you can only pray
- 13:58Speaker 4: for those humanitarian needs in crisis. It's unbelievable. Yeah, that's
- 14:02Speaker 4: like they're going full medieval. Yeah, you know, but Cuba
- 14:08Speaker 4: is very strategic. It's location on shipping.
- 14:11Speaker 2: Routes, and you know, obviously they haven't done much to
- 14:17Speaker 2: hinder them, don't.
- 14:19Speaker 3: They really can't.
- 14:20Speaker 2: But it is a strategic choke point that no doubt
- 14:24Speaker 2: is figured into the President's thinking.
- 14:27Speaker 3: Ed appreciate your coming on here.
- 14:29Speaker 2: Just tell us out here where we find you, how
- 14:32Speaker 2: we connect with you on the web.
- 14:34Speaker 4: Sure, absolutely, you can find me online. Just underscore Ted
- 14:38Speaker 4: at your underscore on like Twitter and Instagram and those things.
- 14:40Speaker 4: Bright Lakewealth dot com is our website if you ever want.
- 14:43Speaker 4: Anyone's trying to do their retirement plan.
- 14:45Speaker 2: All right, Hey, and I've got a question for Ted
- 14:47Speaker 2: and myself and I'm sure you will, especially about the
- 14:50Speaker 2: Palm Beach Trophy Wife index. Shoot me an email kl
- 14:53Speaker 2: Atcarrie LUTs dot com. We back tested the index and
- 14:58Speaker 2: it's uncanny.
- 15:00Speaker 3: It's accuracy.
- 15:01Speaker 2: Ted appreciate you coming on and we will talk to
- 15:04Speaker 2: you real soon.
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