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- 0:00Heidi: This is episode 250 of Teacher Approved.
- 0:04You're listening to Teacher Approved, the podcast helping
- 0:09educators elevate what matters and simplify the rest. I'm
- 0:13Heidi.
- 0:13Emily: And I'm Emily. We're the creators behind Second Story
- 0:16Window, where we give research based and teacher approved
- 0:19strategies that make teaching less stressful and more
- 0:22effective. You can check out the show notes and resources from
- 0:25each episode at secondstorywindow.net.
- 0:28Heidi: We're so glad you're tuning in today. Let's get to
- 0:31the show.
- 0:36Emily: Hey there. Thanks for joining us today for a very
- 0:40special episode. Today we are celebrating 250 episodes as well
- 0:45as our four year podcast anniversary. We will take a look
- 0:49back at our past favorites and talk about what we hope the next
- 0:53four years will hold.
- 0:55Heidi: But first, let's start with a try it tomorrow, where we
- 0:58share a quick win that you can try in your classroom right
- 1:00away. Emily, what is our suggestion for this week?
- 1:03Emily: Well, this week, try boosting your mood with a two
- 1:06for one good deed. So think about one of your teacher
- 1:10friends and a problem that you know they're struggling with in
- 1:12their classroom right now. Then you can send them a link to one
- 1:16of our podcast episodes that might have tips they need to
- 1:20manage the situation.
- 1:21Heidi: So not only are you helping out a friend, but you
- 1:25are helping us out too. Recommendations from friends are
- 1:28one of the top ways that new listeners find podcasts. So
- 1:31every time you share our podcast, it really is such a
- 1:34lovely gift to us.
- 1:36Emily: Yeah, and we don't take it for granted when listeners
- 1:38enjoy our content enough to share it with others. We are
- 1:41truly so grateful every time you do.
- 1:44Heidi: And if you do that and you find that you need an even
- 1:47bigger helpers high to just, you know, get through the day, after
- 1:51you recommend an episode to a friend, you could swing by the
- 1:53rating section on your podcast player and consider giving us
- 1:56five stars and maybe a review. It would be our favorite gift.
- 2:01Emily: Yes, that is the traditional podcast anniversary
- 2:04gift is a rating and review. So as we've already mentioned, not
- 2:09only is today's episode special because we made it to 250
- 2:13episodes, but it also happens to be our four year podcast
- 2:17anniversary.
- 2:18Heidi: I keep trying to make podcastiversary a thing. But so
- 2:21far, Hallmark has just refused to play the game.
- 2:24Emily: Stop trying to make podcastiversary a thing. And if
- 2:28you were wondering about our math, you would probably be
- 2:31wondering four years, seems like it'd be closer to 200 episodes,
- 2:34but we do double episodes in the summer in recent years, so
- 2:37that's what's given us a boost in the numbers.
- 2:40Heidi: And in honor of this milestone, we wanted to do
- 2:42something special with this episode. So we're doing
- 2:44something that we just invented, called a podcast time capsule.
- 2:49We're going to reflect on how far we've come, celebrate all of
- 2:52the good things happening now, and talk about what we hope the
- 2:55next 250 episodes bring.
- 2:58Emily: And someday, when we get to 500 episodes, we can revisit
- 3:02today's discussion and see how well we did on our goals.
- 3:05Heidi: But before we can think about episode 500, let's go back
- 3:09in time and look at how we got started in 2022. Emily and I had
- 3:14talked about doing a podcast for a long, long time before we
- 3:18actually jumped in. So Emily, how is having a podcast
- 3:21different than you imagined it would be?
- 3:24Emily: This going back in time makes me feel like we need to be
- 3:27going, do do do, do do do. Is that from Wayne's World?
- 3:31Heidi: Flashback, flashback.
- 3:33Emily: There we go. I would say that having a podcast is
- 3:37different than I imagined, because it is a lot more work
- 3:39than it seems like it should be. Because it seems like we're just
- 3:43getting together to chat for half an hour every week. How
- 3:46hard could it be? But we care a lot about making sure that this
- 3:50is a valuable use of your time. So the prep is fairly involved.
- 3:55Heidi: It really is. It takes so much time, and we love doing it.
- 3:58It just was not the commitment we thought we were signing up
- 4:01Emily: No, it was a big commitment for sure, and
- 4:01for.
- 4:04sometimes it also feels a little remote from the listeners, like
- 4:07we know you're out there, hello, and we hear from you sometimes,
- 4:10but we would love to hear from the listeners even more, so that
- 4:14we can make sure this podcast is as valuable to you as it can
- 4:17possibly be. What about you, Heidi, what are you thinking?
- 4:20Heidi: Well, I just could not conceive of lasting this long
- 4:25when we started. Like, back in 2022, making it to 2023 seemed
- 4:29impossible.
- 4:30Emily: Right.
- 4:31Heidi: And 100% we have only made it this long because of
- 4:35Sara and her amazing team at Podcasting For Educators.
- 4:38Emily: Yes.
- 4:38Heidi: They are the ones that handle all of the technical work
- 4:40that comes with having a podcast. Like it is, there are
- 4:43so many steps that it takes to get, just to get it into the
- 4:46player, let alone edited and fine tuned and all of that. And
- 4:49without her help, and the pressure of knowing we have to
- 4:53get her the episodes in time, we would not have stuck with this
- 4:56for probably even six months.
- 4:58Emily: Which is ironic, since we are recording this today a day
- 5:00later than it is due to her.
- 5:03Heidi: She loves us anyway.
- 5:04Emily: The pressure is what's making it so that it's not a
- 5:07week late.
- 5:08Heidi: Yes, thank you, Sara.
- 5:11Emily: Well, what would you keep exactly the same from what we
- 5:15did with the podcast?
- 5:16Heidi: Well, I I really like our format. We wanted it to feel
- 5:21like chatting with your teacher besties after school, but not
- 5:25get so lost in like tangents and asides that you didn't have
- 5:28anything to take away. And we never take it for granted that
- 5:32teachers have a limited amount of time. So we want to make sure
- 5:36that the time you're giving us is meaningful, but, you know,
- 5:38also fun.
- 5:39Emily: Yes. And I would say my favorite segment is the extra
- 5:41credit segment, and we've done that from the beginning, and I'm
- 5:44so glad that we've done it, because it's just a nice way for
- 5:47us to share something that we're loving, that usually has nothing
- 5:50to do with teaching.
- 5:51Heidi: Yes.
- 5:52Emily: What I like about that is, obviously it helps you all
- 5:55get to know us better, but more than that, I think it's a good
- 5:57reminder that we're more than just teachers, and all of you
- 6:00listeners are more than just teachers, too. So it's a nice
- 6:03way to end the episode on a light note that just humanizes
- 6:07all of us.
- 6:08Heidi: Yes.
- 6:09Emily: Heidi, is there anything you wish we would have done
- 6:11sooner with the podcast?
- 6:12Heidi: Well, I think it took us probably about six months to
- 6:15find the right tone. I remember, so we started in the spring, and
- 6:18I remember finally in the fall, feeling like, Okay, we figured
- 6:21this out. And at the beginning, bless our hearts, we basically
- 6:25wrote a blog post for each episode, and then we would just
- 6:28take turns reading like each paragraph.
- 6:30Emily: Yeah. And we also tried times too, where we just had a
- 6:34super loose outline, and then we would just try and spit ball it.
- 6:38But that didn't work well either. We need somewhere in the
- 6:40middle.
- 6:41Heidi: Yes, yes. But once we got more comfortable with what we
- 6:44were doing, we could have more of that conversation flow
- 6:47without feeling like it was a lecture or, you know, wandering
- 6:50into the weeds. And if you have been with us since those early
- 6:53days, thank you for sticking around through the growing
- 6:56pains.
- 6:56Emily: And if you didn't listen to those early days, it's okay.
- 6:59You don't need to go back and listen to them. It's fine.
- 7:03Heidi: Okay, Emily, do you have a topic that we've covered that
- 7:05was a total flop that you thought would be a hit?
- 7:08Emily: Well, I couldn't think of anything that was necessarily a
- 7:10flop, but I do think one of our hidden gems is our three episode
- 7:15series on transitions.
- 7:16Heidi: Yes, I love those.
- 7:18Emily: We have so much good content packed in those episodes
- 7:21that I think if you haven't listened to it, you definitely
- 7:23should. Putting some extra thought into how you handle
- 7:26transitions actually like will have a big impact in your day.
- 7:29So those episodes are nice hidden gems. What about you,
- 7:33Heidi?
- 7:33Heidi: Well, I'm still really salty about this. I don't know
- 7:36why I'm so mad, but back in episode 27, Emily and I talked
- 7:41about choosing a one word theme before the new school year. It's
- 7:44something we had done in January, is at the start of the
- 7:46new year, and we thought this would just like, be such a good
- 7:48fit for the new school year. And I remember we spent so many days
- 7:53trying to find a format that we thought would fit with teachers
- 7:56and the start of the school year, and it was kind of a bust
- 8:00of an episode. And I thought, Okay, well, Everyone's just
- 8:03really busy going back to school. It's fine. And we tried
- 8:06it again the following January. Nope.
- 8:09Emily: No, that just is not speaking to you all, apparently.
- 8:12And that's okay.
- 8:13Heidi: But it's so weird, it seems like something our
- 8:16listeners would be into. Maybe we'll try it again in the fall,
- 8:20or maybe, maybe we've been burned. We're just gonna walk
- 8:23away.
- 8:25Emily: And what's something about podcasting today that
- 8:27would have surprised you four years ago, Heidi?
- 8:30Heidi: Well, I think what we focus on is not what we intended
- 8:34to focus on.
- 8:35Emily: No, when we started this, we just assumed we would have a
- 8:39bunch of literacy episodes, a bunch of math episodes, just
- 8:42kind of like all through the different teaching things, and
- 8:44we just didn't realize we were going to eventually, and not too
- 8:48far into it, land firmly in the classroom management, work life
- 8:53balance, that kind of an area, which was not at all what we
- 8:56thought we were going to talk about.
- 8:59Heidi: Yeah, we just had no idea how much we enjoyed helping
- 9:02teachers figure out how to manage their classes. This was
- 9:04not something that was on our radar. And the funny thing is,
- 9:08like, I don't think we have a single math episode. I also
- 9:15think we would be surprised that that pivot to like talking about
- 9:19classroom management would then springboard us into a book.
- 9:23Emily: Right.
- 9:23Heidi: So Emily and I had talked about writing a book someday,
- 9:26but we definitely did not have any plans in the works. We
- 9:29didn't even have a topic. And then after recording episode
- 9:32165, I just remember saying to her, I think this might be a
- 9:36book, but that was kind of it. But a couple months later...
- 9:39Emily: No but that wasn't kind of it, because you immediately
- 9:42wrote an outline for the book.
- 9:43Heidi: Oh that's true.
- 9:43Emily: Because you were like, I got to do it now, while it's
- 9:45fresh, I don't know why, I'm just going to do it. And then a
- 9:49few months later, we randomly, like, heard from a publisher.
- 9:52Heidi: Yeah, they're like, Hey, do you have any book ideas? And
- 9:54we said, as a matter of fact, we do. And it was so nice to have
- 9:58an outline, because the turnaround time was pretty
- 10:01tight, so we could just be like, Here you go. Now our book's
- 10:03coming out in July. It's crazy.
- 10:05Emily: We just got the edits back two days, so we've got work
- 10:08to do.
- 10:11Heidi: Okay, Emily, let's shift gears here and move into the
- 10:15present moment. What is one thing that you wish every
- 10:18teacher listening right now could really hear?
- 10:21Emily: Oh, I would just want to tell them that you are doing so
- 10:24much better than you think you are. Teachers are often so hard
- 10:28on themselves, but I just want you to know that you are doing a
- 10:31job that is so incredibly hard. You have to be on all day. You
- 10:35have so many students that you have to keep track of, all of
- 10:38them with their individual needs. And you really are doing
- 10:42so much, right? It's it's really easy to dwell on where we fall
- 10:46short, but the fact that you are spending your free time
- 10:48listening to a teacher podcast right now is all the evidence
- 10:52that I need for me to tell you with confidence that you are
- 10:55doing a great job. Any teacher who desires to keep improving
- 10:59every day is already knocking it out of the park, so give
- 11:02yourself a pat on the back, please. I'm certain you deserve
- 11:06it.
- 11:06Heidi: Oh, absolutely.
- 11:08Emily: And what do you know now, Heidi, about teachers or
- 11:11teaching that you didn't fully understand when you started?
- 11:14Heidi: Well, when we started the podcast, I hadn't really
- 11:17considered how hard teaching is, like going off what Emily was
- 11:21just saying. When you're in it, you know you feel like you're
- 11:25being pulled in a million directions, but you don't really
- 11:27have the time to stop and think about all of the layers of
- 11:32intention that have to go into every single minute of the
- 11:34school day and just to have every student have a sharpened
- 11:38pencil at the right moment.
- 11:40Emily: Yeah.
- 11:41Heidi: That is, it requires so much thought and work, and doing
- 11:45this podcast has made me really stop and reflect on how insane
- 11:50this job is. It's like trying to play 3d chess in the middle of a
- 11:56dodgeball game, and teachers do not get anywhere near enough
- 11:59credit.
- 12:00Emily: No, they don't, and I do think that while we were in it,
- 12:04we knew it was hard, but I actually am so much more
- 12:06protective of teachers now that we're not in the classroom,
- 12:09because we're still so involved with everything that's going on
- 12:11with teachers as we continue to serve them, and now it's not
- 12:15about me, it's about you guys. I'm just so protective of you
- 12:18that when I ever hear anyone say anything that is slightly
- 12:21disrespectful to a teacher. I was getting in someone's
- 12:24comments last week because they said something about screen time
- 12:29and what are the teachers even doing? And I was ready to throw
- 12:33hands, like first of all, the amount of screen time that
- 12:37happens at a school has so little to do with the teacher
- 12:39deciding what's going to be done on a device and what's not going
- 12:43to be done on a device. They got a whole earful, and they were
- 12:46like, oh, no, no, that was not a dig at a teacher. I'm like,
- 12:50Yeah, but you were! So I will always be there to elbow someone
- 12:55in your behalf if they are ever talking bad about a teacher,
- 12:58because we know how hard this is and how hard you're all working.
- 13:02Heidi: Yeah, you worry about the kids, and we'll do what we can
- 13:07to worry about you.
- 13:09Emily: That's right. So Heidi, if a brand new teacher
- 13:09discovered the podcast today, what episode would you tell them
- 13:11to start with?
- 13:13Heidi: I think I would choose episode 158, I'm sure you all
- 13:16remember exactly what one that is.
- 13:17Emily: Oh, I do definitely.
- 13:18Heidi: Yeah, I had to look it up. So don't feel bad.
- 13:20Obviously, I didn't expect anyone to remember that. But
- 13:23this is about making sure your management system is not making
- 13:26your job harder. I think it's such a good encapsulation of how
- 13:31Emily and I approach most things. Think about what you
- 13:35want to have happen, consider what it will take to get there
- 13:38and then invite your students into the process. I wish that
- 13:41was a framework I had understood back in my early days. It really
- 13:44would have saved me from so many headaches, because I think it's
- 13:47something that new teachers could really benefit from. What
- 13:50about you, Emily, what would you recommend to a new teacher?
- 13:52Emily: Well, I totally cheated, because I said episode 200 which
- 13:56was like a very special episode that we did for, you know,
- 13:59celebrating 200 episodes. And so we shared five of the best tips
- 14:03from the first 200 episodes of the podcast. So I'm sort of
- 14:07cheating, but I already know those are, like five really good
- 14:10tips. And so that's the episode that I would tell people to
- 14:13start with. And if you're new to our podcast and you haven't
- 14:15listened to Episode 200 yet, go start there, and then it's a
- 14:18good place too, to then you can go on some rabbit holes after
- 14:21that, after you hear those tips, you might be like, oh, I want to
- 14:24go hear more about that, or listen to that whole episode. So
- 14:27episode 200 would be my choice.
- 14:29Heidi: It's a little bit of a choose your own adventure. Like
- 14:32start here and then, figure out which path you need to go.
- 14:34Emily: Definitely. Well, what makes you most hopeful about
- 14:38education right now, Heidi?
- 14:39Heidi: I am so proud of how teachers are starting to push
- 14:44back against the extra demands that are put on them. For so so
- 14:48long, there was this sense that if you were not murdering
- 14:52yourself for your job, you weren't a good teacher. It's for
- 14:55the kids, right? Remember your why.
- 14:58Emily: You're not here for the money.
- 15:00Heidi: Yeah, like, why are you expecting to be compensated? But
- 15:04that attitude is how we burned out a lot of really, really good
- 15:07teachers. Now we are still so far, far away from having a
- 15:12system that respects teachers like the qualified professionals
- 15:15they are. But every time a teacher says no to an
- 15:18unreasonable expectation, I think we get a little bit
- 15:21closer.
- 15:22Emily: Yeah, for sure. And one of my friends was saying the
- 15:24other day, like, are you worried about, you know, the future of
- 15:27education because of everything that's going on? And I was like,
- 15:30no, because yes, there are policies right now that don't
- 15:33align with best practices, and there are demands being put on
- 15:36teachers right now that are not fair and that don't have the
- 15:39best, students' best interests in mind, and yet, I am so
- 15:43inspired by the way that teachers are able to make the
- 15:46most of those difficult situations, because they don't
- 15:48just throw up their hands and say there's nothing they can do.
- 15:51They find ways to work within their constraints, to give their
- 15:54students the best education they can. And so I am confident that
- 15:58as long as we have smart, caring, hard working teachers,
- 16:01like we do, education is always going to improve, and I could
- 16:05never lose faith in education, because I know teachers and I
- 16:09know how much they care. I may not always have faith in
- 16:11policymakers, but I do always have faith in teachers.
- 16:15Heidi: Oh, absolutely. Like they're going to show up with a
- 16:18roll of tape and some pencils and paper, and they're going to
- 16:22make miracles happen, because that's just what teachers do.
- 16:26Emily: And they'll keep advocating for their students,
- 16:28and hopefully, like you said, advocating for themselves and
- 16:31for the way that they deserve to be treated.
- 16:34Heidi: Yeah, I hope, before too long, we see, like, such a huge
- 16:37shift in the way we treat teachers so that we can give
- 16:42students everything that they deserve.
- 16:45Emily: So now let's shift to looking forward into the next
- 16:48future episodes of the podcast, Heidi. So what do you want to do
- 16:52with the podcast in the next 250 episodes?
- 16:55Heidi: Like you mentioned, Emily, sometimes being on the
- 16:57podcast feels a little one sided, because like we're doing
- 17:00all the talking. I don't always get to hear from our listeners,
- 17:03and I would really love to expand the sense of our
- 17:06community that we have. We want to make sure that what we're
- 17:10doing is what is most valuable to our listeners and what meets
- 17:14your needs right now. And so I hope that as we go into the next
- 17:17few years, that's something that we can continue building. What
- 17:19about you, Emily, what do you see happening for us in the next
- 17:22250 episodes?
- 17:23Emily: Well, I just hope that in those episodes we keep unlocking
- 17:26ways that teachers can elevate what matters and simplify the
- 17:29rest. So that's the tagline for the show, right? And I think it
- 17:32sounds cute, but it actually is really everything that we stand
- 17:36for here. It's the most accurate representation of what we're
- 17:39trying to do, and it's because we care so much about making
- 17:42your teaching life easier. We know there are too many demands
- 17:46on you, and we want to help free you from some of that weight
- 17:49that you're under, but we also know that there are some things
- 17:52that matter a lot, and we're never going to tell you to just
- 17:55phone stuff in.
- 17:56So while we want to help you simplify everything you can, we
- 17:59also want to help you put the appropriate amount of emphasis
- 18:03on those parts of your teaching that really move the needle, and
- 18:06that might be classroom management strategies that help
- 18:09you have more time for teaching, or instructional strategies that
- 18:12help students retain what they learn, or even just ideas to
- 18:16make your day more fun, so that you can still enjoy your job
- 18:19when it's really hard. So I hope that our next 250 episodes
- 18:24delivers on that promise.
- 18:26Heidi: I love that.
- 18:27Emily: Well, what do you hope listeners say about Teacher
- 18:30Approved in another four years?
- 18:31Heidi: I want it to be something like, Oh, I knew you gals would
- 18:34have just the tip I needed. Obviously, after 250 episodes,
- 18:39we have a pretty robust library of content. So hopefully, with
- 18:43250 more episodes, we can cover every possible question anyone
- 18:48might have. It's just always so nice when someone asks us a
- 18:52question, and we'd be like, oh yeah, we have a whole deep dive
- 18:54on that in this episode here.
- 18:56Emily: Why yes, we have a three part series about that. I just
- 19:01hope that they will say that the ideas we have shared have helped
- 19:05them remember why they love teaching. So I just hope that
- 19:09we've somehow helped reduce even a little bit of the burden
- 19:12that's been placed on them as a teacher, and that really that
- 19:16we've always made it worth your time to listen to our episodes,
- 19:18that we never waste your time here.
- 19:20Heidi: Yes, absolutely. So as we look ahead to the next four
- 19:24years, Emily, what do you hope that we could say about the
- 19:26podcast by episode 500?
- 19:29Emily: I mean, is it too much to say that I hope we're the number
- 19:31one podcast in education by episode 500?
- 19:36Heidi: No, let's do it. Do you know what my goal is?
- 19:40Emily: Let's hear it.
- 19:41Heidi: I want to hit a million downloads.
- 19:43Emily: I mean, obviously, like, those things would be so
- 19:46exciting to say, because they would be such a fun achievement
- 19:48for us. But like, more than anything, I know that we both
- 19:51hope for those things because we want to reach more teachers,
- 19:54that like, we're passionate about what we're doing here, and
- 19:56we really want to help as many teachers as we can with the
- 19:59ideas that we're sharing here.
- 20:01Heidi: Yes, that's always what it comes down to for us is,
- 20:04like, yeah, that's fun to see the growth. But we really,
- 20:08really want to have that sense of, you know, just being the
- 20:12teacher bestie that you can turn to in a rough moment and like,
- 20:16we get it and we can help you through the next steps. It's
- 20:20what makes all of the hard work worth it every week, because we
- 20:24just we can picture you listening in your cars on your
- 20:26way to work or while you're walking your dog, or, you know,
- 20:29packing up your classroom at the end of the school day, and we
- 20:33want to be there for you, cheering you on and helping make
- 20:36this job a little more manageable.
- 20:39Emily: Okay, so we always end the episode with a teacher
- 20:42approved tip and some extra credit. So we're going to
- 20:44revisit some of our favorites. Which tip from the past four
- 20:48years is your favorite, and why, Heidi?
- 20:50Heidi: Okay, well, I'm picking a tip that we discussed in episode
- 20:5326 because I don't think enough people believe us when we say
- 20:57it's one of the best management hacks that we've discovered, and
- 21:01that is to turn your students' desks backwards.
- 21:03Emily: Yes.
- 21:05Heidi: The most efficient problem solving is preventing
- 21:08problems from starting in the first place. And if the desks
- 21:12are turned around, kids can't play around in there during
- 21:15lessons, nothing is getting lost. You never have to take
- 21:17class time to clean out desks. And if you're like, Okay, that
- 21:21sounds so impractical, like, where do they keep everything?
- 21:24Well, Emily and I did it. We gave each student a pencil box
- 21:26for their basic supplies, and then notebooks and folders were
- 21:30kept in stacking Sterilite drawers, specifically Sterilite
- 21:34because they're sturdy.
- 21:35Emily: Right.
- 21:35Heidi: On the counter. And then the day's table captain would
- 21:39bring the drawer to the table with the materials for that
- 21:41lesson, and then it was just all put away. Nothing got lost.
- 21:45Everything held up all year long, because things weren't
- 21:47getting crammed into the desk. Now, we did have to sacrifice
- 21:51some counter space for the drawers, but honestly, it was so
- 21:54worth it.
- 21:55Emily: Oh so worth it.
- 21:56Heidi: And then I'd always start the school year with my kids in
- 21:59tables, but I rarely ended that way, because I usually had to
- 22:01spread them out some more. So when that would happen, I would
- 22:05start to let them keep stuff inside their desks, but the
- 22:07desks were still turned around.
- 22:09Emily: Right. So, yeah, if their desk is, like, not pushed up
- 22:12against another one, it can still be backwards, and then
- 22:15they just have to walk around to get stuff out of it, but then it
- 22:17prevents them from playing in it.
- 22:19Heidi: Yeah, or they get really good at, like, reaching over,
- 22:21you know, and be like, I know what my morning workbook feels
- 22:23like, and they just pull that out. Or, you know, it just
- 22:26solves so many problems. And yes, it is unconventional, but
- 22:30it saved me from having to monitor everything that was
- 22:33happening in everyone's desks all day long for nine months. It
- 22:36was worth it. I will take that every single time.
- 22:39Emily: Yeah, and I had something at least one year that I needed
- 22:42them to keep in their desk because I didn't have enough
- 22:45drawers for it, or something like that, and it was something
- 22:47that we only needed, like once a day at the most, maybe not even
- 22:50every day. And so we just would slide the desks apart and reach
- 22:53in from the middle, like there are ways to make it work. Where
- 22:56there is a will, there is a way, and it's worth it for all of the
- 23:01management headaches that you avoid.
- 23:02My fourth grader was just telling me that she got in
- 23:05trouble because she was messing around in her desk, because they
- 23:09were moving desks later in the day, and she knew that her desk
- 23:11was a mess, and so she was like, trying to, like, organize stuff
- 23:14in there during a lesson. And I thought, well, you know, the
- 23:16desk didn't have anything in it and was turned around. The
- 23:22teacher wouldn't even have to deal with that. Which is not a
- 23:23criticism of the teacher, by the way, like that's just a, I just
- 23:25wish that teachers had this idea and would give it a try to avoid
- 23:29that extra stress and time waster.
- 23:31Heidi: Well and even if it's not something you feel like you can
- 23:34take on all year long, maybe in the last quarter of the school
- 23:38year, it might be worth it, just to eliminate some of those
- 23:41spring headaches when everything's just a little
- 23:44rougher this time of year. Like, okay, I'm not gonna fight this
- 23:48battle anymore. We're turning the desks around, and we'll just
- 23:50make it work for the last few weeks.
- 23:52Emily: Yeah, for sure.
- 23:53Heidi: Okay, Emily, which tip did you pick and why?
- 23:56Emily: Well, I picked, it's from episode 88 and it's having a
- 23:58class handshake. So, this is one of my favorite little traditions
- 24:02that I did with my students, and they loved being involved in
- 24:05making up the handshake at the beginning of the year. So that
- 24:08was good for building our community. Sometimes they were a
- 24:10little long, but then it just felt like our own little insider
- 24:13secret for the rest of the year. And sometimes we would do it as
- 24:17our greeting during morning meeting, and then at the end of
- 24:20the day, I always stood by the door and on their way out, they
- 24:22could do a hug, a handshake or a high five on the way out the
- 24:26door, and many of them would want to do our secret handshake
- 24:29on the way out. So I got good at doing it fast. It's just a
- 24:32really small way to build classroom community, but it's so
- 24:35simple to do.
- 24:36Heidi: And while we're talking about preventative behavior
- 24:39management, a strong student teacher relationship is one of
- 24:43the easiest, most reliable ways to prevent classroom management
- 24:48problems, because when students feel like their teacher sees
- 24:50them and values them as an individual, they're more willing
- 24:54to cooperate with what you're asking of them. And so something
- 24:58like that. Yeah, it's a hassle to have to set up and manage,
- 25:03but it buys you so much goodwill and so much buy in that you
- 25:07almost couldn't pay for that kind of benefit.
- 25:10Emily: Yeah, for sure.
- 25:11Heidi: All right, Emily, what is an extra credit that you still
- 25:15stand by after all these years?
- 25:17Emily: All right. In episode 124 I shared about my new puzzle
- 25:21table, and it is my favorite thing that I own. I use it all
- 25:27the time. I was just using it this afternoon working on a
- 25:30puzzle, and I guarantee I have done so many more puzzles since
- 25:35I got this table, because everything's contained on the
- 25:37table. I can just take that off of my kitchen table easily when
- 25:40we need to use the table and then put it back on.
- 25:42And being able to have, like an easy, contained place for it
- 25:47makes it easy to just always have a puzzle out. And I
- 25:50especially like mine, because it swivels, but not just swivels,
- 25:55it also tilts, so I can tilt it up, which was especially
- 26:00helpful. Last year, I was working on a puzzle, like, I
- 26:03think it was like a Rifle Paper Co one that was like a New York
- 26:06Street in spring, and so the whole top third was, like, pink
- 26:12blossoms on trees, and they were, this was so hard, like, it
- 26:16was all the same. It was so hard to do. And I was just like ready
- 26:21to just quit this stupid puzzle.
- 26:22But the fact that I could tilt it up to work on it saved me,
- 26:26because it was the hunching over trying to reach the top part of
- 26:29the puzzle, because I don't really like to work upside down
- 26:31if I don't have to. Tilting it up saved my back and made it so
- 26:34I could finally finish this stupid puzzle that I will never
- 26:38do again because those blossoms almost ruined my life. But
- 26:41puzzle table, it's worth it and and there are a lot of swivel
- 26:44ones out there, but I actually think having the tilt feature is
- 26:48worth the upgrade, so I will link to it in the show notes.
- 26:51Heidi: And yours has like, little cool drawers, so if you
- 26:54want to start sorting pieces by color, you can have them out of
- 26:57the way, but still organized. It's really a handy dandy little
- 27:01device.
- 27:02Emily: So good. And I got one that has, like, some of them are
- 27:04just plain wood, but I got one that has, like, a little bit of
- 27:08a felt, doesn't feel like the right word, like a textured
- 27:11lining, and I find that so much more pleasant. It kind of holds
- 27:12the pieces together, especially since you're if you're going to
- 27:17tilt it up, that keeps it kind of in place. Yes, the only thing
- 27:20is, after every puzzle, I have to get out the lint roller and
- 27:23run it all over to get all the puzzle dust off, because any
- 27:28hardcore puzzler like myself knows what a trial puzzle dust
- 27:31is, and some puzzles are worse than others.
- 27:34Heidi: Interesting.
- 27:35Emily: If you redo a puzzle, it's a lot better because you
- 27:37usually have gotten all the dust out of it. But the first time
- 27:40you do a new puzzle depending on the brand, sometimes they are so
- 27:43dusty.
- 27:44Heidi: I had no idea, whole new world.
- 27:45Emily: Yep. What's your extra credit you stand by?
- 27:49Heidi: I've got a two for one, because these two things
- 27:53together have saved my life. Only kind of exaggerating. So
- 27:58these are the Luminette 3 light therapy glasses, and magnesium
- 28:03L-threonate. So they have saved my sleep. I was having such a
- 28:09hard time falling asleep at night, and one of the reasons
- 28:11behind that is that you need early morning light into your
- 28:15eyeballs to reset your circadian rhythms, but it's really hard to
- 28:20go outside for a half an hour in the morning.
- 28:22Emily: Especially as, like, a non morning person, and you
- 28:25don't have to run any kids anywhere. So there's not, like,
- 28:27a reason that you're out and about in the sun in the morning,
- 28:30like I am.
- 28:31Heidi: Or you know, if you're driving, you want to have
- 28:33sunglasses on so you don't hit anyone on the road. And that
- 28:35defeats that. Or if you're, you know, different times a year,
- 28:39sometimes the morning might be sunny when you're out, sometimes
- 28:41it's not. These glasses just make it so convenient. Put them
- 28:45on, I get up in the morning, put them on right away. I can get
- 28:47ready in the morning with them on. I look ridiculous, but it's
- 28:50fine. It just shines like a little light in your eyeballs.
- 28:53It's not bad at all.
- 28:53And then I also started taking magnesium L-threonate,
- 28:59specifically that form of magnesium, and now I can
- 29:02actually stay asleep. So the glasses let me fall asleep.
- 29:04Magnesium keeps me asleep because it stopped my restless
- 29:08legs, like I would be up for hours and hours every night,
- 29:11trying to, like, stop doing Irish jigs in my bed. But with
- 29:17the magnesium, I have hardly had any problems. So those two
- 29:20things together have saved my life. And if you have sleep
- 29:22issues, definitely worth checking out. I put links to
- 29:25both of them in the show notes.
- 29:27Emily: And if you didn't know before now, now you know that we
- 29:29are perimenopausal aged, with our puzzles and our magnesium.
- 29:38Heidi: Well, that is it for today's episode. Whether you
- 29:41have been here since day one or today was your first episode, we
- 29:45are so grateful to you for joining us, and hopefully you're
- 29:48ready to keep with us in seeing what the next four years hold.
- 29:51We hope you enjoyed this episode of Teacher Approved. I'm Heidi.
- 29:57Emily: And I'm Emily. Thank you for listening. Be sure to follow
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- 30:10Bye for now.
- 30:10Emily: Bye.