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The Eds: unEDited with Sergio Carallo · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ads with Eddie Judge and Edwin Aroyave.
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  Speaker 1: We have a special guest today, another house husband from
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  Speaker 1: the Dubai Housewife. Sergio Carao has been married to the
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  Speaker 1: Real Housewives of Dubai cast member Caroline Stansbury since twenty one,
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  Speaker 1: right twenty twenty one. Their wedding was featured on the
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  Speaker 1: first season of Dubai. The two men in twenty nineteen
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  Speaker 1: and have a nineteen year age gap. Is that true?
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  Speaker 2: Is that right?
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  Speaker 3: That's true? Actually, yes, I met Karla when I was
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  Speaker 3: twenty four antil it was forty three.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic. We have something in common. We both like older women.
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  Speaker 3: I like it. I like it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's interesting because I can't wait to hear about
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  Speaker 1: your take. I know, for me, it's never really faced
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  Speaker 1: me the age gap or age difference in all my life.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I've dated older women most of my life
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  Speaker 1: and to me is just a number. It really is
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  Speaker 1: about how you live mentally, physically, emotionally. Right, So it
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  Speaker 1: sounds like you have a great connection with Caroline, So Sergio,
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  Speaker 1: welcome to our podcast. First off, before we get into
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  Speaker 1: the whole Bravo with things, let's get to know you.
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  Speaker 1: Better tell us about who surged you is we know
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about you. You used to play soccer,
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  Speaker 1: and you lived or you were born in Spain, so
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  Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about you.
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  Speaker 3: So basically, well, thank you so much for having me.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I'm very happy to be here today, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm so sorry for all the ones listening, you know,
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  Speaker 3: for what's happening in La is terrible. You know, so
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  Speaker 3: basically just about myself a little bit. I grew up
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  Speaker 3: in Spain, in a small town next to the capital
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  Speaker 3: in Madrid, and you know, start playing soccer when I
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  Speaker 3: was eight years old, and then Real Marie knocked the
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  Speaker 3: doors off my home at twelve, and I, you know,
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  Speaker 3: everything has spit up a by quickly on my life.
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  Speaker 3: So it changed everything very earliest eighteen life. So at
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  Speaker 3: fifteen I became professional with Real Madrid, and my life
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  Speaker 3: I've kind of changed a little bit, you know, because
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  Speaker 3: I didn't really have an or my childhood. I you know,
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  Speaker 3: I was just playing soccer the night and that continue
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  Speaker 3: all the way up to you know, I was lucky
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  Speaker 3: enough to train with the first team, so I got
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  Speaker 3: to know all the biggest players in the world. Christian
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  Speaker 3: Ronald though, you know, some of the biggest ones, so
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  Speaker 3: it was an amazing experience. And then from there I
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  Speaker 3: kind of moved to the US play a little bit
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  Speaker 3: in the US. Before that, I played in Europe a
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  Speaker 3: little bit and then but basically I played soccer until
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  Speaker 3: I was twenty two and then ended up in Los
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  Speaker 3: Angeles because I was going to play soccer there, but
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  Speaker 3: at the end, ended up, you know, just kind of
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  Speaker 3: like retiring from my professional career as a soccer player.
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  Speaker 3: Ended up doing the Masters in International Business focus in
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  Speaker 3: Media and Global Communication in UCI New Probid. That's why
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  Speaker 3: I actually met Caroline and kind of you know, I
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  Speaker 3: met Caroline when I was twenty four and my life
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  Speaker 3: changed a little bit. That's kind of very very fast,
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  Speaker 3: you know, forward summer ese of my life.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, let's get into the nitty gritty. Tell us.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have any siblings.
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  Speaker 3: So I have a younger sister, three years younger than me,
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  Speaker 3: Sis in Spain. We used to be extremely close. We
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  Speaker 3: still do, but you know, because I kind of moved,
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  Speaker 3: you know, from home when I was John and I
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  Speaker 3: started traveling a lot, so we kind of, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we stay a bit distant for a while, but we
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  Speaker 3: always keep the connection. I'm very so I'm coming from
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  Speaker 3: a very traditional Catholic family, which is very, very different
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  Speaker 3: than Caroline because you know, when she grew ups, he
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  Speaker 3: went to boarding school at the age of six, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and she never really spent time with the parents until eighteen.
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  Speaker 3: Me is completely different. You know, I didn't have really
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  Speaker 3: any friends. It was only my parents, you know, grew
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  Speaker 3: up just you know, my parents that used to drive
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  Speaker 3: me every time to training. So it was just a
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  Speaker 3: very very close relationship with them. So and with my sister. Well,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I remember my dad. My dad used to
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  Speaker 3: work in Cicon, Bali, so you know, he used to
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  Speaker 3: travel a lot, but he used to just just make
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  Speaker 3: trips around my soccer schedule. So he used to pop
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  Speaker 3: into places just to see me play. So we we
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  Speaker 3: we're very close always.
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  Speaker 2: How are your parents? Are your parents in Spain still Sergia?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so actually my dad recently just moved to Bali,
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  Speaker 3: Indonesia because I'm building a hotel there, so he's he's
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  Speaker 3: running the project, so to work with him. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: So it's amazing. Actually had life tuning too the other
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  Speaker 3: way because you know, when I grew up, I used
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  Speaker 3: to I mean I still do, but I used to,
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  Speaker 3: you know, my dad used to teach me everything. Look
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  Speaker 3: after my dad kind of like he used to be
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  Speaker 3: the one guide in me life. And now he retired
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  Speaker 3: and he's like, look, I it would be a pleasure
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  Speaker 3: just to kind of like work for you and and
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  Speaker 3: run up one of your businesses. So it's it's fantastic
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  Speaker 3: to be honest, and I love it.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm curious, how did you get into soccer? Why soccer?
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  Speaker 3: You know, in Spain when you are little, you kind
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  Speaker 3: of just you know, or you play soccer, you play tennis,
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  Speaker 3: let's say. You know, it's just kind of for those two.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember I used to have always a soccer
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  Speaker 3: ball here with me. It was just my best friend,
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  Speaker 3: you know. I was just taking it out, was you know.
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  Speaker 3: And then I kind of so how everything happened. It
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  Speaker 3: was I started playing soccering as a small you know,
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  Speaker 3: just a team in my village. I was. I remember
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  Speaker 3: in a tournament Nike was there, Nike the brand, and
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  Speaker 3: they were doing a challenge that was Nike the Chance,
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  Speaker 3: which was finding the best soccer player in Spain in
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  Speaker 3: each position at the age of twelve. So I started
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  Speaker 3: just I got into it. I kind of just passed
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  Speaker 3: all the the kind of the tournaments and stuff, and
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  Speaker 3: I became the best soccer player on the midfielder on
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  Speaker 3: the left side in Spain at thirteen, so that kind
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  Speaker 3: of knocked the doors of Real Maday a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: And then that was kind of how I got into it. Slowly.
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  Speaker 3: Then I went to London with Ramari for a tournament
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  Speaker 3: and then slowly, you know, kind of just started with
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  Speaker 3: a very basic contract in Drama Ri. It was just
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  Speaker 3: one year and then I did very well. I scored
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  Speaker 3: I remember sixteen goals that year. There was a guy
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  Speaker 3: from the Canary Islands I was used to playing the
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  Speaker 3: same position as me, and then the coach just test
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  Speaker 3: me and then you know, I did very well that
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  Speaker 3: year and then they signed me professional. The year after,
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  Speaker 3: I signed five year professional with them professional. I was
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  Speaker 3: I was very very young.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Sergio, what would you say was your biggest
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  Speaker 4: setback in your soccer career and how did you recover
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  Speaker 4: from it?
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  Speaker 3: You know, it's very interesting actually soccer because well people
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  Speaker 3: only see the surface, right, so people only see the
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  Speaker 3: zero points one percent of the players that they make it. Actually,
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  Speaker 3: but I was lucky enough to be there to go
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  Speaker 3: through everything and then become professional and trained with one
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  Speaker 3: of the biggest players in the world. And then it
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  Speaker 3: was kind of like it was taken away from me
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  Speaker 3: a little bit because I didn't really have a team,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a place in the first team. The second
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  Speaker 3: team was closed, so I was in a very tough
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  Speaker 3: position in Dramad, so I had to I broke one
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  Speaker 3: year contract with Ramri. With was a bit crazy and
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  Speaker 3: everybody told me not to do, but I was just
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  Speaker 3: not very happy and I I prioritized happiness than you know,
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  Speaker 3: money or anything else, and I kind of just broke
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  Speaker 3: the contract left Marie. So it was a bit difficult,
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  Speaker 3: to be honest, I stay I think like two years
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  Speaker 3: without watching any games. It was a bit you know,
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  Speaker 3: I suffered a lot when I was little, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because you cannot give your whole life to that, and
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  Speaker 3: it was kind of you know. I remember I was
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  Speaker 3: training with st Ronaldo on a Thursday, and then I
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  Speaker 3: broke the contract, and then on a Monday, the market
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  Speaker 3: was close, so then I didn't have a team on
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  Speaker 3: a Monday. So it was a very difficult moment because
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  Speaker 3: I didn't really know what to do. So then the
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  Speaker 3: quickest way for me was to move to Iceland. So
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  Speaker 3: I went to Iceland to one of you know, Radiably,
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  Speaker 3: which was one of the biggest teams in the country,
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  Speaker 3: and I played there to stay feed. I had a
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  Speaker 3: two year contract there and I stayed five months because
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  Speaker 3: it was very cold and it was just not for me.
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  Speaker 3: It was a good experience though, you know. So then
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  Speaker 3: I kind of use the name I got from soccer
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  Speaker 3: just to kind of like travel over and you know,
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  Speaker 3: playing different places, and you know, at the end, I
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  Speaker 3: ended up moving to the US. Played in New York Cosmos,
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  Speaker 3: which was a good experience. Yeah, very good experience, lived
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  Speaker 3: in New York. And then at the same time I
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  Speaker 3: was getting my masters in my master's my degree international business.
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  Speaker 3: So I was just I want to pay the university,
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  Speaker 3: trying to do exam. So it was just a bit
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  Speaker 3: trying to manage both things and then moving to Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 3: But my dad always told me, look, you can be soon, Ronaldo,
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  Speaker 3: but you have to have your backup, which is your
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  Speaker 3: degree and your masters, you know, because no one really,
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  Speaker 3: you know, no one really can't tell what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 3: And most of my friends that they were actually huge
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  Speaker 3: stars when they were little. They were playing in a
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  Speaker 3: Spanish election, so many years they were you know, they
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  Speaker 3: were meant to be the biggest thing. All of a
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  Speaker 3: sudden they ended up you know, none really make in it.
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  Speaker 3: And the guys that were playing with me in the
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  Speaker 3: third team of Real mari and they were not actually playing,
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  Speaker 3: they were on the bench. They're actually now you know,
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  Speaker 3: some of them in the first team, Marie making million.
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  Speaker 3: So it's just very unpredictable and very very tough a sport.
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  Speaker 1: Did your dad have a huge influence in conttinue into soccer.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it sounds like he supported you through the
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  Speaker 1: whole experience.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, my dad was the one who told me not
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  Speaker 3: to get into it because he was not a big fan.
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  Speaker 3: To be honest, he was not really a big fan.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, because how it works if you play
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  Speaker 3: professional you cannot get a scholarship right in the US
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  Speaker 3: if you play professional in Europe. So before getting into
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  Speaker 3: Rama Rid, all our planning was to move to San Francisco.
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  Speaker 3: I was going to Scure University, you know, just the
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  Speaker 3: school and just kind of like move life there. But
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  Speaker 3: then Real made knocked the doors very early, you know,
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  Speaker 3: when I was, you know, fourteen fifteen, so it was
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  Speaker 3: just kind of, oh my god, what do I do?
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  Speaker 3: So I just move and stay here, and you know.
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  Speaker 1: Those are big decisions you got to make at that
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  Speaker 1: age five.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and now you're now you're building hotels. How do
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  Speaker 4: you know, how do you go from you know, soccer
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  Speaker 4: and now you're still young.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you're you're not even are.
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  Speaker 3: You thirty yet? I'm Saturday thirty actually just turned thirty, and.
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  Speaker 2: Now you're building hotels. So how does that happen?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I mean I'm always been very entrepreneurial. You know, I
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  Speaker 3: love business, and I remember the first morning I met
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  Speaker 3: with soccer, it was just I was just throw, you know,
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  Speaker 3: throwing it in places just to try to make things.
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  Speaker 3: And this I'm always have like that side a perform soccer,
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  Speaker 3: which is just very driven, you know side of me,
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  Speaker 3: which I love. So, you know, after I think maybe
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  Speaker 3: like the last three years, we've been heavily invested in
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  Speaker 3: the real estate here in Dubai and we're actually loving
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  Speaker 3: at you know, we're doing lots of one two bedroom
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  Speaker 3: apartments and renovated and stuff. Right after Kobe, we went
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  Speaker 3: to Bali and we actually tried to build a hotel
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  Speaker 3: here and it was just a bit tough to get
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  Speaker 3: the land. We had like some problems, you know, we
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  Speaker 3: say no to Dubai. So we went to Bali summertime
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  Speaker 3: two and a half years ago.
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  Speaker 1: One.
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  Speaker 3: I just saw the market. It was super interesting, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they are wis where, you know, very attractive, and I said, look,
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  Speaker 3: let's just try to build a villa for a well
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  Speaker 3: selves here. And then slowly the villa got into maybe
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  Speaker 3: a bigger real a bigger villa. Now it's kind of
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  Speaker 3: like a small little boutique hotel.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So that's kind of like yeah, yeah, but it's
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  Speaker 3: like a fun it's a fun project. You know, it's
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  Speaker 3: like a dream. We always wanted to have something that,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it's just like a place where you know,
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  Speaker 3: we're just gonna go the summers there. I wanted to
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  Speaker 3: find a reason to go to Bali because we love
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  Speaker 3: the island, you know, so this is kind of like
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  Speaker 3: the reason.
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  Speaker 2: Nice and tell me.
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  Speaker 4: So, you know, obviously good looking guy soccer player young,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you're probably thinking, you know, most people that
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  Speaker 4: have those that all that stuff going for him are
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  Speaker 4: probably not thinking to get get married. That that young,
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  Speaker 4: and then you know they're probably thinking, you know, I'm
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  Speaker 4: going to mess around for a bit with some young ones,
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  Speaker 4: and you obviously do the opposite, right you get married young,
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  Speaker 4: and then you get with somebody that's pretty old.
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  Speaker 2: Which is pretty not older than you, which.
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  Speaker 1: You want to get balls.
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  Speaker 2: I meant.
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  Speaker 3: A little bit, a little bit, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 3: because you know, to be honest, you know, from I
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  Speaker 3: could say from nineteen to twenty three, I really have
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  Speaker 3: like a crazy life, you know, and I believe you
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  Speaker 3: have to do it all before you know what you want. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: I did that in life. A lot of people they
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  Speaker 3: kind of go through different faces in life. I think
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  Speaker 3: I did the face that I had to experience when
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  Speaker 3: I was very young, and you know, I knew what
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  Speaker 3: I wanted, you know, after doing all that, So I
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  Speaker 3: had like that busy and clear and I think, you know,
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  Speaker 3: that's why when I'm in Caroline, I was twenty four,
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  Speaker 3: but all my circle, you know, all my friends and everybody,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they were like forty five fifty because of business,
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  Speaker 3: because it's just't I didn't really have people from my
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  Speaker 3: eight and I think when when I met her, I
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  Speaker 3: really felt she was you know, maybe thirty three, no
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  Speaker 3: forty three, you know, like thirty, you know, and she
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  Speaker 3: was just a bit older. And and also it was
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  Speaker 3: a bit tough term city on because I met her
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  Speaker 3: with no kids, right, so we started as friends, and
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  Speaker 3: you know, I fell in love with her as an individual.
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  Speaker 3: But then you know, I didn't know, let's see carry
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  Speaker 3: a backpack, let's say with kids, you know, which was
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  Speaker 3: a big thing, you know, right, well, let's say that
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  Speaker 3: was like a whole you know, let's let's dig in
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  Speaker 3: to that. Tell us about when you met, how you
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  Speaker 3: met and what went through your mind. Was it love
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  Speaker 3: at first sight or did you take a while to
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  Speaker 3: get to know her before you fell in love? I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I definitely. I was living in Newporvitch at that moment,
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  Speaker 3: and I flew from Europe and I remember this girl
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  Speaker 3: actually who I think, you know, she liked me or something.
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  Speaker 3: She was like, look, there's this event happening in you
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  Speaker 3: Propeating Fashion Island hotel. You should go. And I'm like, look,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna go. I probably say ten times I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to go.
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  Speaker 4: And then the way it happens, though, right when you
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  Speaker 4: don't know, somewhere I lead someone.
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  Speaker 3: I'm telling you. Literally, I was like, okay, I'm not
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  Speaker 3: gonna go. This is just not for me. And then
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  Speaker 3: he said, look, it's very interesting, it's about business. You
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  Speaker 3: should come. I'm like okay. So then all the time
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  Speaker 3: I called my friend and all the time my friend
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  Speaker 3: was covering the red carpet of the event, and I'm like, okay, great,
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  Speaker 3: so then I will pop in. You know, it's familis
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  Speaker 3: from my house. So then he was in the VIP
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  Speaker 3: area and he handed me a champagne and then he
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  Speaker 3: left for a moment. I literally turned back and Caroline was,
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  Speaker 3: you know, back to back with me, and we kind
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  Speaker 3: of look at each other. We click a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, it was just like a weird feeling.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: We didn't really talk the match, but we kind of like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we connected somehow. And then all the time
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  Speaker 3: I ended up staying in the Holy event. It was
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  Speaker 3: Caroline's event, so it was like a stand up podcast
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  Speaker 3: he was doing about women's empowerment, and you know, he
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  Speaker 3: was just very fun in the state. He was just saying, like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, like I'm a minor three
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  Speaker 3: these people in the front row, You're gonna watch more
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  Speaker 3: because you pay more the other guys Vagina watch and
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, who is this like woman
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  Speaker 3: talking about by Gaina here? This is so weird, Like
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  Speaker 3: it was just it was just very funny. So I
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  Speaker 3: was like, Okay, I'm gonna stay. Ended up staying the
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  Speaker 3: whole way and then very funny. So everybody when I
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  Speaker 3: was leaving, everybody's sitting in the stairs, I say bye
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  Speaker 3: to everybody, and I thought, it's kind of like Caroline
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  Speaker 3: a little bit on the back and I am living.
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  Speaker 3: And then she said aloud, oh my ohod, my future
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: husband is living, but like southing funny. But you know,
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: she said it the first night that we met. And
• 15:37
  Speaker 3: then you know, I was like, oh my god, I
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: wanted to come back, you know, but I didn't. I
• 15:41
  Speaker 3: didn't come back, and I texted my friend and all
• 15:44
  Speaker 3: the time, you know, there was like an after party,
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: so all of us we met at the end. And
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: then that's kind of how I how we connected a
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: little bit, and then we became friends and you know,
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: same circle of friends slowly and then kind of like
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: got to know each other. But in the beginning, I
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: mean I definitely felt something different. It was kind of
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: like a it was just a feeling that I've never
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: felt before, let's say, you know, and it's crazy that
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: she said that, you know, oh my god, my future
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: husband is leaving. And then four years after we go martered.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: So that's it's pretty crazy. You know.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: How long did it take you guys to to actually
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: connect or hook up? I should say, because when did
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: you guys sleep together?
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: But it could be when the relationship.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, actually, I mean we were we were like because
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: he was in la and I was in Newburbs, remember,
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: so you know, and seeing it stayed that loone because
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: he was living there. So I think after like you know,
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: maybe a week or something, you know, we ended up
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: like all the time meeting altogether. I think it was
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: in soho house in Malibu or something, and then with
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: some other friends and then you know, I don't know,
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: another time. So it slowly kind of like we were
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: somehow we were like seeing each other like in different places,
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: you know, and then we kind of just you know,
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: got gone down. Then at the end, this is very small,
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: you know, so we were just same group of friends
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: and seeing you some of my friends, so just you know,
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: slowly keep talking talking talking, I don't remember exactly when
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: we you know, he's the first time, but you know,
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: you know, it sounds and it took some time. It
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: took some time. Yeah, I mean it was it was.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: It was not like, you know, straight away, but I think,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: you know, we definitely, you know, we felt something for
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: each other from the beginning. I think, you know, it
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: was just a bit of like a crazy thing because
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: you know, we did annoy anything about each other, and
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: you know, and you know, I had to lie about
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: my age a little bit because you know, I knew
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: she was older, but then her friends saw me. Look,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: you know she's she's you know, almost forty five. I'm like,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: what almost forty five years old. I was like, oh
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: my god. And then she kept asking my age and
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, I'm around thirty. I kept saying
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: around thirty.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: I just left it.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: I just left. I left. I left. I understand, I think,
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: like three months already, you know, a bit later on,
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: then you know, she asked me for my passport.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Oh so it's like, oh.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: My god, I just couldn't lie anymore. I'm like, look,
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: I'm a bit younger. And then I'm like, I'm twenty,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: and I kind of say twenty eighth, and he was like,
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: oh my god, and you're twenty eight. I'm going to jail.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: And then I'm like, look i'm forty four, I'm twenty four.
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: I kind of do it. And she was just she
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: was shocked, to be honest, he was like, I mean,
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: did she went through We went through a lot together,
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: see got I mean, look, I never really lie honestly,
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: because I say around thirty, it could be like, you know,
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: closer to twenty. But you know, I just left it there.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: But you know, I think, you know, I think because
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: she saw that I was genuine and I you know,
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: I didn't really care how you know, who she was,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: you know, have like the key to anything. Yes, it
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: was just a pure connection human to human. And I
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: think that's why it worked out very well from the
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: beginning because honestly, see, this is like a friend to me.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: This is my best friend. You know, we talk about everything.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: You know, even if I see a good looking at
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, only look at that, you know,
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: it's so hot. So I think that's it's just like
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: a very very strong connection that we have with each other.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: It sounds like you have a level of trust that you,
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: it's hard to find with people in general. Yeah, that's
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: kind of that's kind of the same feeling. What is
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the same feeling I have with my wife and I
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: had the same experience when we first met. It was
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: the first time I've ever experienced what people call a
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: love at first sight. It's just this weird feeling. You're
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: exactly in stars and you don't know what's happening, and
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: it's it's really weird. But yeah, it's I know exactly
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: what you're going through. What you went through, that's awesome.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: And when she said, oh my god, my husband is leaving,
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, I really want to
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: come back, but I couldn't. I wanted to be cool,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: so I was like, oh my god, I'm so much
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: younger than I need to be the boss here. I'm
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: like I need to I like, you know, I don't
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: care or anything. And then, you know, I went to
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: the ballet and I test my friend like, look, I'm
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: thinking to come back, you know whatever, and it's a comeback,
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: and I came back, you know, but I know the
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: feeling is, you know, it's this it's a crazy feeling.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know how can explain it,
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: you know, but it's it's a it's a weird connection,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: you know. I think it's a clear example how eight
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: is honestly a number like you know, we I you know,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: I met so many women, you know, my entire life,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: and I never had that connection I had with Caroline.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's love.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: And we we fight because everybody fights, you know, we
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: fight a lot, but then we love a lot, you know,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: and it's yeah, and I think you have to have
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: that you know, combination.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: One of the things that I've always thought about with
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: you know, the big question is how do you make
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: your relationship last so long long? And for me, it's
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: not necessarily the ability to love or the connection you
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: have with the person, but the ability to get through
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: the hard times, the challenges, you know, when life throws
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: curveballs at you and you're both you know, trying to
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: figure out how to get through life. That's the real
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: determining factor of can you live the rest of your
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: life with this person? And if you can't, at least
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: you know, you know, but yeah.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: The fun times, for example, the fun times, I say, yeah,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: and I brought me for example, when I got to
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: know her, it was only fun times. So I never
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: really experienced anything difficult because it was look see how
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: things how I think we were just traveling, you know,
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: the war, meeting different places in different people, and it
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: was just a fun journey, very exciting. And then when
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: reality hits is when I arrived to Dubai, because you know,
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: there were three kids in bath, there was an excassman,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: there was so many things going on. I was like,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: oh my god, what am I doing? And at some
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: point I honestly told Carlin, look, I don't think I'm
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: going to be able to do this, you know, because
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: that is, you know, there was you know, see has
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: three kids, you know, twins, and one of the twins
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: what it was, and it's still very attached to Caroline,
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: you know. So he's very protective and he's home in
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: the beginning, has had a replacement that so it was
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: very difficult for me. I used to come into bed
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: and he used to push me out of the bed.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: I used to sleep, you know, in another bedroom in
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: the floor.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I had a.
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: Completely different relationship when he was with us than when
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: he was not with us, and it was very difficult
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: for me because I'm like, oh my god, is he
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: ever going to change. How How am I going to
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: be able to have an oral relationship with Caroline? You know?
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: How they so when I met them, there were eight
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: years so yeah, eight years so yeah. But he he
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: was very I think a bedding secure, you know, with everything,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: and I think, what really kind of like, you know
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: it really like you know, made his personality so much
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: more you know, exposed. He was just the fact that
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: you know, Caroline just kind of like, you know, met
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: another man and I wanted to take that position his head,
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: in his head, it was like, oh my god, you know,
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: who is this guy? You know, young guy, you know,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: trying to do this? And so it was it was
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: very difficult to be honest, even Caroline. You know Caroline,
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: when when everything went through like see what to the hospital,
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: I mean, we went through like crazy stuff, and I
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: think that's why all those things that we went through,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: it really built up, you know, the relationship, and he
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: made us very strong.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, certainly the challenging parts of life build your
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: strength and build your relationship. Did the ex contribute or
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: help in the transition to help you guys be you know,
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: a good couple? In other words? Was he an asshole?
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Or was he supporting.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: No, he was.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: He was.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: I mean, he was an asshole in the beginning, which
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: we you know, I completely understand because in his head
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: it was like, look, who is this, you know, young guy,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: ex footballer coming into here and like, you know, just
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: taking my family. Like yeah, So he hated me completely
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: for a year. So it was a very difficult situation.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: And then the kids as well, they took his position,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: so then you know, he was feeling information to the kids,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: and the kids were you know. So it was just
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: a very complicated thing and obviously no one really knew
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: about it, but we just went through it and we
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: knew that we're going to come out the other side.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: And it is actually amazing how after now six years,
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: I think together yesterday we went to Coldplay and it
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: was the ex husband, it was Caroline, the three kids,
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: and or assistant actually all together and I was like,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: oh my god, it is crazy how life. You know,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: time heals everything. I'm like, I never thought I was
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: going to be in a place, you know, even in
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: a stadium with this other man because he was horrible
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: to me. But then now we are kind of I
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: mean we're not friends, but but we are, you know,
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: we're polite, and I think we can do lots of
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: stuff together. And you know, and now he's very happy
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: because he had a girlfriend. So that relating to terms
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: to load and you know, I think it went through
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: like a very big down in the beginning, and then
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: now we came out the other side and and now
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: we're even going to coshoveles kin all together as well.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: So wow, you know, it is it is very good.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: You know, it's oh, we're modern family, let's say, you.
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: Know, yeah, and and that's great for the kids ultimately, Yeah,
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, when it comes
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: to divorce, it really affects the kids first. And unfortunately
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: my wife's ex, you know, decided to use the kids
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: as leverage to try to get to her and hurt her.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: So it affects the kids aversually when it happens.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: I know, for example, I I'm always going to be second,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: you know, when I am with the father, you know,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: with the father and the kids. Because for example, even yesterday,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: little things in the in the you know, we're in
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: the scenario yesterday, and I was like I was a
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: bit bitched tough in the beginning, but you know, I
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: I you know, we arrange all the seats. You know,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: we arrange eight seats for Coldplay. It was an artist
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: passages incredible, It's sold that completely. So we invited him
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: because Sacked the song was like, look, I want my father.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yes, please bring him. And then we are
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: sitting in the best, best position, and then the daughter
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: is like the father goes to get some food. The daughter,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Carolin's daughter is like please can I can you move
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: because I want my dad here? And I'm like okay,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: And then it was like kind of like a bit
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: you know that you know, we arranged he's aware, guess,
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: but but I had to move to the worst seat
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: basically to just leave him the best place. And it
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: was just a bit, you know, so all those things
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: are still you know, I'm still struggling a little bit,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: but it's normal, I guess. You know.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: That's very mature and amazing that you did that. I mean,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: that speaks volumes of what kind of man you are.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: That's awesome, Surgio.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: You know, I don't know, I mean, I did it,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: but I was looking at Cal and I'm like, what,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: I'm not moving, I'm not moving like this, go, yes, go,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: I'm like oh my god. So then you know, I
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: guess also a big thing that plays you know, you
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: know where advantage is the ages cup because I kind
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: of you know, I look after cow and I so
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I learned from hair load, you know. So you know,
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: because he has a lot of more experience on mean life,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: and I think that's why we work very well together.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: You know, Yeah, that I was going to say that
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: you get you sort of get the best of both worlds, right,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: because you have her wisdom, but she's also beautiful. I mean,
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: she still looks like she's s thirty, right, So you
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: get the best of the both worlds because a thirty
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: ye old normally doesn't have the wisdom. She kind of
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: looks like a thirty year old and she's got the wisdom.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: It's the best of both worlds. My question to you
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: when you were going through those tough times, how what
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: made you hold on and not just say I'm out right?
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Because you could have easily set them out with all
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: that chaos that was happening, and it's not like you
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: couldn't go find another woman, right, But so what made
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: you hold on? Because again, that's where arrogance can take
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: over and you're like why am I dealing with this?
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I could go find me someone right now.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: That's a great question.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Holding on.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a very good question. Actually well kept holding on.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: I think I guess that feeling I had for Caroline,
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: you know, and how you know, I think because I'm
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: a libras, I'm very loyal and I'm very like you
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: know when I think because of soccer as well, everything
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: I went through. When I take a the season, I
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: take it and I stick to it. And I knew
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: what I wanted and I knew, you know, I've never
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: had this connection. And I think a lot of people
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: they have the mistake of, you know, always want them
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: more or they think the grass is greener on the
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: other side or a bit more greener. And I I obviously,
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: you know, I had always my text of the dream
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: wife I wanted, which is this, this, this, this, this
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: on those texts, it was not finding you know, one
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: eighteen years older than me and three kids, because initially,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: you know, I wanted to create a family. I wanted
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: to you know, like go through the normal steps and
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: process in life, right and I got to a position
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: that you know, I already have three kids growing up
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: that and not mine so it's just a bit weird.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: But I think, you know, the love that I felt,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: that the feeling that I fre in the beginning for Caroline,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: that's what made me stick to it. And I think
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: the you know, just seeing her, how you know, how
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: happy I met her. And I think, you know, I
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: knew the kids, and I think this I learned as
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: well from Caroline and the kids. Look, a lot of
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: people they stick to the families and everything because of
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: the kids. But at the end, the kids are going
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: to build their own lives. They're gonna just grow. And
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: at the end of the you end the balon or
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: with a partner, you know, And that's the truth, you know,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: So you need to be happy, and that's caroline philosophy.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: And you know, the kids are amazing now, but I mean, yeah,
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: the daughter is eighteen, she's in university and she comes
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: here once a year. She's gonna build her own life.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: And then so Caroline took the decision of you know,
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: just living you know, the eggs and staying with me,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: and then we're super happy. So I think I learned
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: all that mentally different her and I knew that we
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: were going to come out the other side and We're
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: going to be Caroline and me after going through what
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: we went through. The kids, which they're they're always going
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: to stay in our lives, but you know, at the end,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: it's just going to be Caroline and me. We're gonna
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: be happy. So you know, well, yeah, I love that.
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: And so speaking of that, you know, you've always wanted
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: to have kids, and I know that you guys been
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: talking about that.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: How's that going?
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, the big question everybody. I feel like
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: everybody wants this baby. I'm like, yeah, I mean, look,
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: it's just a bit the interesting for me because I'm
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: coming from a very big family. My dad. They are,
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: you know, nine brothers, one sister. The sister has eleven kids, tripless,
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: so I have forty one cousins from my dad's side,
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: it's a mine is a creative family. And then my
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: mom's side is a bit smaller, but still like you know,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: fourteen fourteen, you know, cousins. So, you know, I love
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: the family. I love noise in the house. I love
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: you know, having a lot of people around. So the
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: question is are we going to have a baby? I mean,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: we are, We're considering having a baby. We're continuing you know,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: we we the DIBF, so we we have a baby
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: ready to go, a boy genetically perfect, so it's mixed already.
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: We just need to find a body basically, you know.
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: So Caroline, I don't think Karlin is gonna carry because
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: you know, she had preclamcya before when she had the
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: twins and suffer a lot. So the last thing I
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: want is, you know, for her to suffer a right,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: even though the doctors said that she could carry before
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: fifty but I don't. I don't think we're gonna do it.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: So now the question is, you know, we are looking
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: Abu Dabi. Now they just legalize surugacy here in the
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Middle East, which is very good news because I didn't
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: want to have my baby, you know, in the US
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: or Europe because it's very far, you know. So it's
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: a you know, it's a positive thing that now we're
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: allowed to do it here. So we're still looking and considering.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know when it's gonna happen, but it's a
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: you know, it's a thing that we have there, let's say,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: you know, so it's pretty cool. Yeah, our life will
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: change a lot, to be honest, because now you know,
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: we have a very good life because basically the kids
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: stay with us one week and then they go one
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: week with the father, and then the week they go,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: we normally travel. So it is just it's very convenient
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: for us, you know, because we are all here, so
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: we just you know, we travel, so we get both lives.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: That's interesting. Where does the father live?
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: So the final live here? Oh he does, okay in yeah, yeah,
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: so it's only twenty five minutes from here. So we
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: have a very easy relationship. So when the father, for example,
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: it's traveling, the kids come with us. Oh you know,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: vice versa. So it's just a one week one week.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: But normally, you know, sometimes for example, we went to
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: Australia recently, it was three weeks, so they stayed with
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: them three So it's just very flexible, you.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Know, nice, very nice. I remember when my wife and
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: I first got together, it was fifty to fifty custody,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: and the days that they were not with us, we
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: would always be doing something fun, traveling or you know,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: just what you know couples do. And when they were
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: with us, it completely changed dynamics. We were more responsible
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: and you know, we were a family. And then it
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: got to a point where the kids didn't want to
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: do that anymore, and they ended up full time with
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: us and totally through a wrench monkey wrench in my
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: whole system.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Question, like, you know, do we want to have a
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: baby and change our life completely and are the dynamic
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: because you know now, I mean we are really back
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: to being like twenty years old escaping the world that
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: week because we literally just go, you know, so yeah
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: it is. It is fantastic to be honest, you know,
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: and then the week there here we get the whole
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: family life.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: I do get that impression because I kind of looked
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: at your Instagram for a while and you guys are
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: all over the world and it's so exciting and so
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: much fun to watch. And I do enjoy the videos
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: that you guys created. They're really good, very creative, very funny.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Yah.
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: That's my that's my passion passion side of you know,
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I love I love creating content. I love I'm verdy creative.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: That's why I'm enjoying so much, you know, building the hotel,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: because I'm putting a lot of creativity behind you know, awesome,
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: But I mean we kind of pose the kids and
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: they don't want to be in the Instagram morning and
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: the kids. But we we spend time with them. You know.
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: It's just that we only you know, post all the
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: troubles and things, you know, but we go we get
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: both lives, which is fantastic, to be honest. You know.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: My question you because you mentioned this earlier.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: I'm curious, how does Caroline do with when she comes
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: and meets you know, you know big Glatin families, they
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: have big gatherings. How does she deal with those big
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: gatherings when she's got to show up and there's you know,
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: fifty people there and you know, they have their traditions.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: How does she deal with it?
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: It's very funny. See I mean in a way, I
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: think see that she hates them, like she hates the
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: whole thing because it's just no very family oriented. You know,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: see got better at it, you know. You know, my
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: family they make so much effort, like they speaking list
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: and staff and they bring her food and things. But
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: she's just Caroline has these things because he went to
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: boarding their school seems very early, you know. And you know,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: I always say I wish I introduced my parents as
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: my best friends to Caroline. Here's Violet, my friend, my
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: mom and this is my dad, which is not my dad,
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: it's someone that I know. I spend a lot of
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: time with it. Because Caroline, as soon as you hear
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: the word father and mother, she becomes like it's like
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: a frozen it's like cold. She cannot even do anything
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: to them. I'm like, it's crazy, it's crazy. And I
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: think it's because of boording in school, because she just,
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: you know, she just went through a load and like,
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: you know, they were not very you know, spending time
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: with her and stuff, and she just cannot really established
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: her relationship with parents.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, it's more like a business
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: transaction than a emotional relationship.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: Are percent I coind of you know, I cry when
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: the when Caroline's father is leaving the house here because
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: I'm very emotion and he's lovely and Caroline is already
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: upstairs like it's like okay, like he's literally pushing them out.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god. You know. So it's just
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: it's just very funny, to be honest, you.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Know, how often do you guys spend time with your family.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: I just came back now. So Caroline also always like
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: she kills me to do this, but I have to
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: do it because you know, so I go there normally
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: every winter the twenty first to a twenty fifth, twenty six,
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: you know, so I spend always four days day in Madrid,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: you know, like because they love it, they got used
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: to it. I'll bring a lot of presents and you
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: know with the Christmas okay dinner on the twenty fourth,
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: and then I come back, you know, so I just
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: have to do it because you know, unless I bring
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: them here, which maybe next year we will do or something,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: but you know, normally I have to go there, you know.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's like I got you know. That leads
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: me to a question that just popped into my head.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I think it's important to learn from you in in
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the dynamics of your relationship. You guys created or plan
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: to create some sort of tradition or or things that,
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: you know, creating something for your family that's different from
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: your personal family and her family because the dynamics are
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: so different. Right, are you creating a new tradition in
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: your future or are you just going with it?
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, for now, we are not creating anything. I
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: put some little steps into you know, the family are
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: created because you know, she has already kids, and I
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: cannot change things. But if we have a kid, it
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: will be you know, I think it will be different,
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: and I know actually it will be like how I
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: would you know, I would love to create a family,
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: which is you know a lot of traditions, a lot
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: of things. How I do all all my Spanish traditions,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: let's say, yeah, because I mean it's just you know,
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Caroline Sea got converted to Cis Jewish because he got
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: converted because of the Exhausman. So you know, it's just
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: very different, you know, both of us. To be honest,
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: that's why we have to go to Mauritius to get
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: married because you know, legally in the UA you cannot
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: get married, you know, because I was you know, a
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: Catholic and she was divorced us, so it was just
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: impossible to get married, you know. So we had to
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: go to Mauritius to get the paperwork and sign everything legally.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: So we did a small wedding there, you know, in
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: the Four Seasons, and then we came back here and
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: did the big wedding.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: And then you got married on the show.
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: Correct, we got matter on the show. Yes, Yes, we
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: got matter on the show, which was amazing actually it was.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: It was so beautiful. I mean, it was just very fast.
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: Everything happened like quite intent. But it was amazing, to
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: be honest, it was like it was a dream. It
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: was honestly the best dream I couldn't imagine, you know,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: because everything just came so perfectly. The hotel Raffles, the
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: Palm just open, which was one of the iconic hotels,
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: and it was just so new. Everything it was. It
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: was magical. You know.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: Well that did you get married on the show too?
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: We had her three.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Id No, you got matter in the show as well.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, well we had a separate show. We didn't actually
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: get married on the on the Real Housewive show. We
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: had a spin off. I think it was a three
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: series spin off. And the struggle initially was because of
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: my experience on the show. I didn't want to do
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: it on the show. I had no desire because it
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: was so about drama and toxic relationships and all that.
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: I said, I don't want anything to do with that.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: But the way it turned out, they produced an amazing show.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: It was the most beautiful wedding that you can imagine,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: and everybody was I mean, there was a little bit
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: of drama that was relating to, you know, get this
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: done or what Yeah, what are you gonna choose? But
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: it wasn't what the Real Housewife show is about, right,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: It wasn't nothing like that. It really was magical. And
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: our plan was very much like yours, have the wedding,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: you know, for TV purposes, and then have a little
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: wedding on Laguna Beach with you know, our closest friends.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: But the wedding was so beautiful and magical and it
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: felt so real that we didn't need to have a
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: second wedding, but it was. It was an amazing experience. Yeah,
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: it really was.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: For example, because Caroline wanted to make up Ony in
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: the wedding. Caroline wanted the wedding because some things that
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: we started a lot of this because he's done everything
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: in life, right because he's he's almost fifty, so I
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: haven't done like so many things that he's done. So
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: she's like, look, I want to get married, you know,
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: in an eyland, no shoes. I'm like, honey, how I'm
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: going to have that? Like he's like ten people. I'm
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: like I cannot do that. I'm like, what all my
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: family everything? So we had a massified like crazy because
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I have to do a proper wedding. I
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: have to have like a priest. I have to do
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: like a big thing, you know, because in her her
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: old wedding it was like a thousand people, you know,
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: in the biggest thing in Turkey, and I was like, look,
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: I have to have it. So then within Mauricius for
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: her kind of in an island, ten people, and then
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: we did you know raffles you know, in the in
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: Dubai for me basically, so that was just two combinations,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's hilarious. That's such an opposite dynamic. It's
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: usually the woman that one huge.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: I don't. I don't, I don't. I don't know why.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, in so many ways, I'm like
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: a king woman this relationship because it's just it's such
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: a it's such a man in so many ways. I'm like,
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: you know, there's no emotions, there's no feelings. It's like
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: a it's like a British rock, like there's nothing. And
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: I'm the emotional one because I'm I'm the Latino one,
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: you know. So we're always like, you know, I love
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: I and go I can go like four days with
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: a given noticing I'm not there, and it's fine, like
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: it's just suppose he is, you know, like.
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, that's awesome. Well we got
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: into the show. Tell us a little bit about how
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: that all happened. How did you did you know about
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: the Real Housewives show before you you got cast or
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: how did that happen?
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no idea.
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, so Caroline City before in the UK, right City,
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Ladies of London before, which was I think, you know,
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: a same production company and everything, same channel, but like
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: you know, in the UK. And then when sim moved
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: here the show, when I started to get to know
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: her a little bit, I didn't know anything about Housewives.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: I didn't even know because in Spain we don't have that.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: You know, it's not like a thing now, no one
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: really watched I Andre, you know how big it was,
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: and you know everything that you know, it is involved.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: And then when we started to get to kind of
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: like know each other, you know, we start talking and stuff.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: And then when I ended up moving to Dubai, they
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: did like a few casts for her for Beverly Hills,
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: you know, and then at the end, you know, it
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: just they wanted to move the whole family, so it
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: never happened, and you know, it was to be complicated,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: so then I think it's slowly just to buy housewives
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: just came because he was here, so then they kind
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: of build the whole you know, the whole cast and
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: everybody around her and stuff. But I didn't know anything.
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: I never you know, I did a few TV things
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: because you know, of soccer and things, but I never
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: really you know, I was never used to, you know,
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: having people in my house, you know, like you know,
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: just nine hours a day, film and everything. You know. Yeah,
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: And the problem as well is because I'm very real,
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: so you know, I cannot really lie. You know, It's
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: just who I am. So it was just a bit
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: difficult in the beginning. How I was gonna kind of like,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: you know, just be my I couldn't hide who I am.
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: So you know, that's why I think in the show,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: you can see in the show is my personality, but
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: multiply by a thousand because they kind of edited that
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: way and stuff. But I you know, it's I'm very emotional.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: It's just you know, it's who I am. You know,
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: I'm like a told you boy, how you're portraying the show.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: It's kind of like, you know, I play that funny,
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: that funny role, which is I mean, it's okay, they
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: want to play that way, which is fine, you know,
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: I take it, but you know, but uh, you know,
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: I didn't really know how it was about, to be honest.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: That's interesting because I've always said that the control with
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: the editing is what makes the show right, and I
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: understand it. Obviously it's for entertainment purposes. But at the
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: same time, this is your personality that they're messing with
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: and trying to create a character. So how do you
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: handle all the negative ship that comes with you know,
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: obviously the positive stuff, but the negative stuff is really
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: what concerns me. Because you can tell me I'm funny,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: I'm good looking, I'm energetic, and I know that. But
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: when I get people that criticize me because my eyes
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: aren't blue, or my hair is now blonde, or I
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: don't have big enough muscles or whatever stupid you know comments,
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: how do you how do you deal with those?
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: I mean, you know, luckily for me because coming from soccer,
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: soccer world is a very jealous, you know, it's a
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: very difficult world. So I always you know, have people
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: talking you know, me or my bag or things. So
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: I kind of build a little bit of that personality.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: It's just you know, and I never had that many
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: people close to me, you know. So then with the
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: years and then also when I met Caroline, you know,
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: we you know, we made like so many news. It
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: was everywhere like toy boy. You know, they even called
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: me sex My name was sex slave. I was like,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: oh my god, what is wrong with the I know,
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: my whole I didn't do anything in life, it was
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: the sex slave. And when when it's related to Spanish,
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: I understood what it was because I didn't read what
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: was that. I was like, oh my god, this is
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: cloud was exually it's the worst thing you can call
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: a human or oh god. So then you know, it
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: was just all these news came out. I was like,
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: you know, over relationship and things, and it was just
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: a bit you know, everything started there kind of, but
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: then I didn't really realize with the show what was
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: gonna come after, you know, because I mean they literally
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: called me everything. And also the edit, you know, it
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: didn't really help because it was portraying this image of
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean just like you know, how you
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: call it like he was my sugar mama. You know.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: I was just literally just not doing anything during the day,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: just here, doing here and not, you know, just looking
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: after her, you know. And you know, because I'm from
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: the South of Spain, I'm kind of funny, you know,
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: so I'm like, okay, I rolled with it. So I
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: was just playing that. But then they you know, in
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: the edit is kind of like multiplied by a thousand,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my god, this is just the
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: worst thing. And then they were to take they were
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: taking all my comments and mixing it with the other stuff,
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god, like you know,
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: so but I mean, you know, I I don't really
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: I never really care about what people think. And I
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: think that's something that I learned since I was little,
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: because if if I could have cared, like I would
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: never be where I am today with Caroline, you know,
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: because everybody told me what I was doing, you know,
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: all my close friends they were like, look, you are crazy,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: you know, and Caroline is the same actually, by the way,
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: all her friends, you know, they were saying, look like
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: what are you gonna do, Like how are you going
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: to build a life with him? Like you know, he's
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: like twenty years younger than you like, and still so
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: many friends when we were going through everything, and I
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: think because both of us we are the same in
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: that way, we don't really care how people and everything.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: So it was just you know, so it made us
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: kind of like together stronger, you know. But I mean,
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: imagine living in the Middle East, where we are probably
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: the only couple we had twenty years age cup, I'm
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: probably in the public eye, you know, because normally here
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: there is only like you know, normally it's older men
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: with younger women. You know, it's more like common there's
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: not really people like the other way around, and you
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: know here it's just very very rare. It's not like
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: living Los Angeles, you know, which is more common on
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: you know, the US.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: So it was just a very big big thing here,
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: you know, to make it public, and you know, we're
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: going everywhere and people kind of like we're looking, and
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: you know, it was just a bit a bit difficult.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: But you know, the comments, I mean, we were just
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: taking them, you know by this day by day and
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: and I don't really remember any that really made me,
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, this is crazy, because I mean they
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: literally called me everything, They called me gay, they call me,
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: you know, toy boy, like everything in the planet you
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: can call anyone. And I think I feel like i'm
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm very secure with myself, so I don't
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: I don't really need to get proof to anybody who
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: I am, you know, in a way, I have to,
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: you know, I have to thank soccer, you know, and
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: everything I went through, you know, suffering very early in
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: my life, you know, you know, because he gave me
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: the strength that I have today.
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: Was there a part obviously, you know, to be as
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: successful as you've been in soccer, and then obviously you know,
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: getting your degree, and now with business, there's there's a
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: little you got to have a little ego to be
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: a little successful, right, you got to.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: Have a little ambition, right.
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: So what happens when you know you've been successful on
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: your own and now everybody's almost making it seem like
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: you haven't done anything, and you're just you know, you
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: found yourself a sugar mama.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: But you're like, wait a minute, I'm I'm pretty successful myself.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: That the ego that did it kind of like tell
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: a little bit.
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: A little bit, I think, because you know, my whole
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: life has been a bit like a roller coaster. So
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: I went, you know, everything changed very early in my life.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: I didn't really know what was happening. The other sign.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: I was training with the best soccer players in the world,
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: you know, and then all of a sudden, I, you know,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: my ego was up here. You know. I was not happy,
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: and I was like, look at my star. You know,
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: I don't care what I broke the contract. So then
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: from one day to another, I literally went like this,
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: and then on the sign I went all the way up,
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: you know. So I think because it's just being like
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: a like that roller coaster, I'm very used to, you know,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: all the different stages, you know, so you know what
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying was it would just say that it
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: you know, perred percent. I mean honestly, you know, I
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: believe in God, and I knew I know that God
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: gave me and took out gave me all that that
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: he gave me very early stage, because I mean I
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: was driving all the you know how the fities I
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: had all the cars when I was eighteen, you know,
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: and I used to go to the train and everybody
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: was screaming, signing, you know, because it was just it
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: was a ramatic player.
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: It was not because it was me. It was just
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter where you play in first second thirteen,
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: you were a Ramadi player. You were in the same office,
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: so everybody went crazy for you, you know. So I
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: just I got all that very early in my life.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: And then it really was like, you know, I believe
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: you know, I became an assholt at some point and
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: it was not who I was. Came that like Arrogan
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: that you know that personal I did. I thought it
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: was I was somebody, and I you know, it was
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: the best thing that could happen to me. Just to
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: kind of like take it away from me and give
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: it to me a different way, because now I always say,
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: nothing's gonna change. You give me now a hand million
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: dollars literally nothing, because my life, you know, like I
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: have everything I was in my life and I'm happy
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: and content with who I am, and I it takes
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: a long way to understand that, you know, and I
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: know that because I went through all that before and
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: I had it and it was gone.
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: Do you think it would have been possible to not
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: be arrogant and egotistical if you get to that level
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: like you're in the top soccer team club in the world,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: you think it's possible not to experience that ego or
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: that arrogance. It's you know, it's part of the package.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: I mean part of it's part of the package. Yeah,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: and you know, in soccer because for example, you know,
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: I think the ego played a big part of me
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: because as well, I was coming from a you know,
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: from a good family. You know, I didn't really need soccer,
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: you know, to kind of like, you know, keep going
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: with my life, right, and for example, I will never
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: forget that at the age of fifteen, the coach sent
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: me down and he said, look at your age. I
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: had two options, which was the construction soccer, and I
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: chose soccer. I see you that you have many different options,
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: which I was doing modeling with Nike, I was, you know,
• 51:06
  Speaker 3: doing so many things, and I was studying, you know,
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: and I was doing soccer. And he said, because you
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: have so many different options, you're not going to play
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: any minute with me. And I was a sixteen years old.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: So then that guy made my life miserable. I was
• 51:18
  Speaker 3: in drama Ria and I didn't play half of the
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: season because of that. So I think all those you know,
• 51:24
  Speaker 3: things that made me really you know, build up a
• 51:27
  Speaker 3: very thick skin, you know. So I think when I
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: made it and I was training with the first team,
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: then you know, anywhere I was going outside the streets
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: and I was like, you know, who are these people?
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: And it was just completely wrong here on my mind.
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: But I was thinking that automatically because you know, I
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: think the fame and the success. You know, it's a
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: very very difficult game, you know, and I would always
• 51:52
  Speaker 3: be grateful for experience that very early and then kind
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: of just take it away from me.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: You know, I think that brings you down to a
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: normal human level, and.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: I will never honestly, when I came here, you know,
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: I got a few offers to play football, you know,
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: you know, and I just I didn't want to take it,
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: to be honest, I had always signals just to not
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: go into that. And you know, it was amazing what
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: it gave me, because it gave me, you know, an
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: amazing platform. He gave me all the connections I have.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: You know, I traveled the world I want literally everywhere,
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: you know, but it also prepared me to where I
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: am today.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: So do you still play soccer or do you not
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: want to ever kick up all again.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually you know, because it was it was
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: very difficult when I when I left Drama RI because
• 52:46
  Speaker 3: you're used to this bobble and then you leave and
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: then all of a sudden, nothing is the same. So
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: then I left soccer for two years and then I
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: kind of went back slowly. But you know, I mean,
• 52:56
  Speaker 3: I I don't play. To be honest, I'm very close
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: friends with some of the biggest stars that they actually
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: my neighbors now, which is fantastic because I actually grew
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: up watching them and now but literally my friends. And
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god, how crazy life is that?
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: This is giving me everything I wanted on a different way,
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: and I'm still involved somehow, but but I'm not involved.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: So it is fantastic, you know, see to see that.
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: But I don't play. I don't play. You know, I
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: don't play soccer anymore.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: How do you stay in shape?
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: So I go to a gym, you know. And also
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: because I over work out my body so much when
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: I was little, you know that it has a very
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: good memory. So then you know, I don't really need
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: to do that much, to be honest. And for example,
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: now if you if I want to look good for
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: I don't know, for a trip or whatever, I work
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: out maybe like a week, like intent, and that's it.
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: But I normally play like, you know, padel a lot
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: of paddle, you know, go for runs once in a while.
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: But I know, might do a gym, you know, I
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: like the gym to disconnect. But it's yeah, it's more
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: for I used to be addicted, to be honest, for
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: like you know, yeah, for looks and like you know,
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: like staying feet and this. It was just like an adiction.
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: Now I'm more relaxed on that.
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: Nice. Well, you got to enjoy that because I missed
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: those days where I could just work out for a week.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: And right shape.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: Fifty Oh my god, you look amazing. You're fifty, you
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: know you're fifty fifty one?
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and Edwin is actually eighty. Yeah, he's in great shape.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: You guys, You guys look amazing. To be honest, you
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: guys work out a loone.
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: No, I often say, I work out for my sanity,
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: not my vanity.
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah it was twenty one.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: I worked out for my vanity indeed, But as you
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: get older, it's really just for sanity.
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: Now you know, it's you know, lasting that loone. You know,
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: I'm thirty, so I'm hoping it will last hour maybe
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: five years maximum, you know. And also i'mzing a lot
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: with Carolinzo. You know.
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well it started balancing out or going to tipping
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: point for me. It was around forty six, and it
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: was a heart, a heart issue that happened to me.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: I had aphe that totally threw a ranch into my
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: whole system because all my life, you know, I consider
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: myself sort of an athlete. Growing up like an athlete.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: I did sports in high school all my life. I
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: wasn't professional, but what I learned, you know, the biggest
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: lesson I learned in sports is pain is just part
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: of the game, and if you can handle the pain
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: longer than the competitor, you're going to be the winner.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: So I apply that to a lot of things in
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: my life, including my physical and you know, I'm a
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: cyclist at heart. That's my real sport. I love riding
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: my road bike. And you know, I've gone miles one
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: hundreds of miles and you know, heart rate averaging one
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: hundred and sixty hundred and seventy beats for minutes for hours, right,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: So it was just too much that I think contributed
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: and among other things because I still don't really know
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: what caused it, but diet, lifestyle and all that. I've
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: never really been a drinker. I don't drink, you know.
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: Much exactly same as me, to be honest, and I
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: think that's that's the biggest thing why I stay in shame,
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: because I don't drink. You know, I eat clean, but
• 56:01
  Speaker 3: it's it's not even clean, it's my lifestyle, you know,
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: I know, I just just it healthy. And I think
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: that really helps, you know.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, now it's helped me tremendously. And right, I mean
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: you can tell ed when you know it's looking great
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: for his age.
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: I don't drink. It's amazing.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's it's you know. I honestly, I'm like
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Edwin and you probably as well. We we just I
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: know my body and when I put something in my
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: body and I feel like shit, it's a it's just body.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: You don't do it pretty easy.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: It's quite difficult for us because we have you know,
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: we're always here and the way everybody thinks we lived
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: in holiday, you know, and everybody comes and it's just
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: busy and busy and busying. So it's just back to
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: back every day, you know, going out, and you know
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: I suffer a little bit on the road inside of it.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: You know, it's to stay you know, on track, but
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: you know I try to kind of Yeah.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Now, well, great, great interview, ser Joe. I.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: I specifically loved how you said, you know, it's interesting
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: when you've experienced something before and you've kind of.
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: Been there already and you kind of know what that
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: gave you.
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: It's like, I don't want to go back to that, right,
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: And you're like, but this I haven't experienced before, and
• 57:15
  Speaker 4: this I like even more.
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: So I loved your answer on that, and I just
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: loved everything we talked about today.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: So thank you for a great, great interview, and I
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: hope to see you soon here in La Man.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: I had a big time to do with Vegas and
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: your and your wife again stunner beautiful. And I also
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: when I first met your wife, I had no idea
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: her age. I would have thought she was, like I said,
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: in her thirties. So well, well, well done.
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: On the catch there too.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: But we'll close it with health this wealth. You know,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day. You can have all
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: the money in the world, but being unhealthy, yeah, it's
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: not worth it. So thank you so much Sergio for
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: spending the time. And you know, I know it's tough
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: because you're on a different time zone, but it was really.
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: Fun get able to know you actually, look, I'm in
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: pajamas on the bottom down, so yeah, nice.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: That's a that's a that's a California thing that you
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: got in their pajamas out here.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: It's twelve twelve fifteen at night.
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: Oh, time to start going out exactly.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: All the best to you and your wife.
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: I thank you guys.