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Spiders In The Garden [08.01.2026] · Garden America Saturday

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Garden America, the country's most listened to gardening show,
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  Speaker 1: Brian Maine, John Bagnasco, and Tiger Palafox on the Garden
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  Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good afternoon, good evening. Whenever you're listening,
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  Speaker 2: we are back or wherever you're listening to. But you know,
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  Speaker 2: people listen at different times. If you're with us. Right now,
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  Speaker 2: though it is live, we are Garden America. I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to check. It's been a couple of weeks. We're reacquitting
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  Speaker 2: ourselves with all the equipment, with each other. Tiger's back
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  Speaker 2: from his vacation. John is in Fallbrook, or was in Fallbrook,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm in Script's ranch and now we're in your poolhouse, Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: It is Garden America. Welcome one and all, Welcome to
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  Speaker 2: Look at John ten rested and.
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  Speaker 3: Ready right now, you know, thank you all for you know,
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  Speaker 3: bearing through our hiatus.
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  Speaker 4: Here for a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was very busy. John was busy for a while.
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  Speaker 3: Brian was just I was busy.
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  Speaker 4: I was watching.
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  Speaker 2: I was busy watching you be busy.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you you were especially busy because you drove from
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  Speaker 5: here to to Louisiana.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, an amazing road trip with the family. Orleans, you know,
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  Speaker 3: went through New Mexico, went through Oklahoma, went through Texas,
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  Speaker 3: went through Now you were talking.
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  Speaker 5: About some of the things that you really liked. What
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  Speaker 5: would you say the top three were that just stand out? Okay,
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  Speaker 5: I know we had mentioned White Sands. I don't know
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  Speaker 5: if that makes the top three.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely White Sands, you know, National Park out there in
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  Speaker 3: New Mexico was spectacular. I mean just just out there
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  Speaker 3: in the middle beautiful white sand mountains, just.
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  Speaker 2: A military testing place, white sands proving grounds, right yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 5: And white the white sand is for our listeners.
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  Speaker 3: Is just gypsum, right yeah, exactly. Which you know, it's
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  Speaker 3: it's it's an amazing place. It's it's a it's a
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  Speaker 3: an environmental phenom. I don't even know how to explain it,
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  Speaker 3: because you're in the middle of this desert. It's all
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  Speaker 3: mountains and stuff around there, and then all of a
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  Speaker 3: sudden there's this massive area of just dunes of gypsum,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you know, And I'm sure there's some geological
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  Speaker 3: explanation as far as why, but it's really neat to
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  Speaker 3: kind of be out there.
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  Speaker 5: But I will just to show you you can add
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  Speaker 5: too much gypsum to your garden.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, nothing really grows there. Yeah, I was. I was
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  Speaker 3: very surprised by Oklahoma City. It's it's an amazing place.
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  Speaker 3: I highly recommend going there.
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  Speaker 2: Besides the tornadoes. How amazing is it?
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  Speaker 3: Well, so I don't get this okay, Number one, for
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  Speaker 3: the all of you that know Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 4: It's flat. There's plenty of room, there's plenty.
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  Speaker 3: Of space, you know, there's no lacking of of ground. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: So they just recently built this building by some energy company.
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  Speaker 3: They named it, I forget the name of the energy company.
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  Speaker 3: But it's about, let's say, something in the range.
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  Speaker 4: Of eighty stories tall. It's by far.
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  Speaker 3: The tallest building in all of Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 2: City if it's twenty five miles away from.
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  Speaker 3: Other states, right, you know kind of thing. They just
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  Speaker 3: got an approval for like one hundred and sixty or
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  Speaker 3: two hundred story building to do. And I'm like, why
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  Speaker 3: are they doing that there?
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  Speaker 2: I don't get it, because you know the whole concept
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  Speaker 2: of skyscrapers and let's take New York for an example.
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  Speaker 2: The reason they built skyscrapers was because of lack of space. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: so let's just build up.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, makes perfect sense.
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  Speaker 2: And you in that environment, you would think Oklahoma City
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  Speaker 2: would spread out, right.
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  Speaker 4: And like you said, they have tornadoes there.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I will say that there's a lot of
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  Speaker 3: typhoons that hit the the you know what would they
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  Speaker 3: call that, like the Pacific, the you know where you know, Japan,
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  Speaker 3: you know, in all those areas, and they have tons
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  Speaker 3: of tall skyscrapers there that we stay in typhoons all
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  Speaker 3: the time.
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  Speaker 5: But that's different than a tourna I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know, is it.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, here's the three I think tornado, cyclone and
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  Speaker 2: what did you say, typhofoon, typhoon, cyclone, tornado, those three
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  Speaker 2: what is the difference? Well, so no water?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well no, but you forgot hurricanes.
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  Speaker 3: So hurricanes. Hurricanes come from the Atlantic and then they
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  Speaker 3: come up our eastern right through the Caribbean. Typhoons and
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  Speaker 3: cyclones are the Pacific, and then they hit Asia, you
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  Speaker 3: know that kind of area. Tornadoes are like on land
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  Speaker 3: kind of a thing, and they're.
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  Speaker 2: Scary, right, they're really scary because you know, hurricanes and
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  Speaker 2: there's nothing you can do. And these people that get
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  Speaker 2: up close, you know, they get out of the car. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: look there's a tornado.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah what are you doing?
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  Speaker 3: And like you say, like we're tracking hurricanes, we're tracking
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  Speaker 3: cyclones for for for weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Tornadoes all of a sudden can just up here.
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  Speaker 4: It's just boom.
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  Speaker 2: These videos people inside their house and they go, I
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  Speaker 2: think that's a tornado.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's tornadoes.
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  Speaker 2: That is Is that for me? Is that tornado forming? Well,
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  Speaker 2: they'll see it up in the clouds and it hasn't
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  Speaker 2: touched down yet. Yeah, and then it hits the ground. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So so Oklahoma, like.
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  Speaker 3: I highly recommend going to Oklahoma City if you have
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  Speaker 3: a chance. It's a great downtown environment, very clean, very
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  Speaker 3: tours friendly, lots of great restaurants, a beautiful botanical garden
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  Speaker 3: right in the middle of the city that has a
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  Speaker 3: indoor like atrium botanical garden. Then outside of it is
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  Speaker 3: a beautiful park water feature.
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  Speaker 2: The Oklahoma City Thunder. They got a good basketball and
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  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 3: Who is also right there is The Rockets are the
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  Speaker 3: feeder team for the Dodgers. The Rockets, I think they're
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  Speaker 3: called the Rockets baseball.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you mean, oh, minor league.
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  Speaker 4: Minor league team for the Dodgers are Oklahoma City.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So they had a beautiful ballpark. Beautiful ballpark.
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  Speaker 5: So those are the top two. Yes, White Sands.
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  Speaker 4: The fan boat tour in New Orleans.
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  Speaker 6: That I highly reckon, you boy, fan boat hydroplanes? Uh no, well,
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  Speaker 6: I mean hydroplane is I'm thinking of the water lift.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and kind of go the fan boats. So they
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  Speaker 3: have that flat bottom, just giant fan in the back.
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  Speaker 3: They take you over all the marsh, they take you
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  Speaker 3: over land. We see alligators, we see giant bugs. We
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  Speaker 3: saw wild boars, we saw birds.
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  Speaker 2: You skipped over something very quickly. Giant bugs.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know giant.
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  Speaker 2: When you can see the facial expression on a bug. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's a little big. In fact, in Florida they have
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  Speaker 2: like bug crossings. You'll see these signs, you know, spider crossing,
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  Speaker 2: bug cross What did you see? What? What really bugged you? So?
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember the name. It was a real basic name.
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  Speaker 3: But imagine a grasshopper about two times the size of
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  Speaker 3: a normal grasshopper in just all black, okay, and he
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  Speaker 3: picked it up and you just hold it and it
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  Speaker 3: just hangs out there and the up Yeah, the guy
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  Speaker 3: in the boat crazy. And then do you remember that
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  Speaker 3: movie Stars Star Starship Troopers.
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  Speaker 4: Do you remember?
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  Speaker 3: It was like a B movie like Aliens and stuff
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  Speaker 3: like that. Okay, so the bugs that the aliens they
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  Speaker 3: fought were bugs, and they were these big, like arm
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  Speaker 3: pointy striped bugs. Right there was that bug there that
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  Speaker 3: was about as big as my hand. It landed on Jeanine.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, she freaked out.
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  Speaker 4: I think I would, Yeah, I mean rightly, So.
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  Speaker 2: I mean see the thing. But you know, if an
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  Speaker 2: insect can't fly, you know what, no problem when you
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  Speaker 2: can fly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And it's funny because bugs aren't there like
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  Speaker 3: attacking you, right, like they're just bumbling around.
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  Speaker 2: Here's my theory which made me ridiculous. Florida, Oklahoma, Louisiana
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  Speaker 2: very humid. You think humidity has anything to do with
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  Speaker 2: these bugs getting so big because in the Amazon and
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  Speaker 2: all these.
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  Speaker 5: Places definitely has to do with the amount of bugs, right,
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  Speaker 5: because I climates don't have bugs, right, And yeah, pick comparatively.
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  Speaker 3: And they you know, they don't get cold, you know,
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  Speaker 3: kind of we talk with the issue with our plants
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  Speaker 3: with bugs. The reason why we have aphid problems is
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  Speaker 3: because it never gets cold enough to kill off the
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  Speaker 3: aphids in the winter time, so therefore they just all
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  Speaker 3: year round. You know, where areas that get cold, they
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  Speaker 3: don't have snails, they don't have avid problems. They get
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  Speaker 3: aphids in the spring and summer, but then they go
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  Speaker 3: away in the wintertime and other things like that. I
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  Speaker 3: think I think these like you're saying, humid mild environments,
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  Speaker 3: the bugs just keep lipid.
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  Speaker 4: They don't die there. Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, but they also have crazy predators those birds and stuff.
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  Speaker 4: They eat them too.
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  Speaker 3: And it's even the alligators when they're small they eat
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  Speaker 3: those bugs.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Yeah, well there's fish too that you know. Bugets
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  Speaker 2: too close to the water, they jump exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So bugs, turtles, I guess the turtles and swamps, right, turtles.
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  Speaker 5: Well, mosquito larva are good food source for fish.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: You know you were talking about how busy we were
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  Speaker 5: in the last two weeks, Carla mentioned you were busy
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  Speaker 5: fixing your windshield.
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  Speaker 2: Actually, Carla, it's going to get fixed on Tuesday. Took
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  Speaker 2: a little time to order the windshield and then there's
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  Speaker 2: a special molding strip and so driving around in a
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  Speaker 2: cracked windshield. But thank you Carla for mentioning that.
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  Speaker 5: Oh I just thought of something that happened at my
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  Speaker 5: house three days ago across the street. And you guys
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  Speaker 5: have both been there. You know that they have goats, right, yeah, right,
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  Speaker 5: well they have two less because a mountain lion.
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  Speaker 2: Got them a mountain a mountain lion.
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  Speaker 5: Three days ago and my neighbor was telling me, you
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  Speaker 5: know the nature preserve is behind.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you have people park on your street right to go.
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  Speaker 5: Hiking, right, so they have trail camps. And they showed
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  Speaker 5: her the picture. They said it's a big male mountain lion,
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  Speaker 5: and they said he shows up on this camera two
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  Speaker 5: or three times a week. And then she goes, really,
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  Speaker 5: she goes, yeah, we call that little road behind you
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  Speaker 5: mountain lion Highway.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, so thank you very well. Hit your
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  Speaker 2: property to what I did.
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  Speaker 5: Mike is down below us, and they did see a
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  Speaker 5: mountain lion come up the driveway from the bottom.
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  Speaker 2: We have to take a break, all right, I'm getting
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  Speaker 2: scared bugs. Mountain lions tornadoes, cyclones. We're going to take
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  Speaker 8: Talk Radio, Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show
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  Speaker 8: with Brian, John and Tiger.
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  Speaker 2: Just like that, quick as a bunny, John, right, bunnies
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  Speaker 2: and rabbits, and we are back so again broadcasting life
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  Speaker 2: from Tiger's poolhouse. A pool, little cabana thing going here
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  Speaker 2: in the kitchen, got a bedroom, got a bathroom. All
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  Speaker 2: the comfort creatures, is that right, creature come creature comforts. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's been a while. I've been off the air for
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  Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. And your pool, your pool is
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  Speaker 2: nice and warm, tell.
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  Speaker 4: You, yeah, it's it's as hot you know. It's funny.
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  Speaker 4: I think when you arrived here this morning, what temperature
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  Speaker 4: do you think it was?
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  Speaker 3: Maybe around like seventy five seventy six degrees outside? I
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  Speaker 3: would say seventy five, okay, seventy five there was steam
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  Speaker 3: coming off the pool. Yeah, yeah, that means that what
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  Speaker 3: is so that means the pools warmer than seventy.
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  Speaker 2: On the outside air?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Are John and you all? Are we all done talking
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  Speaker 3: on the mountaine because I want to give you a
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  Speaker 3: little compliment here if you're all done on the mountain line.
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  Speaker 2: Wait before that, before we do so, the mountain lionne
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  Speaker 2: could very easily come across your property. Oh yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: said it was on your property real quick.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know? Is it just like one lion in
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  Speaker 3: the area or they're multiple?
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  Speaker 5: The one that's there on a regular basis is one? Okay,
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  Speaker 5: but there's been other sightings too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I wonder if they are kind of territorial or if.
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  Speaker 5: They kind of are I think they are kind of territorial.
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  Speaker 5: So if you've got a big male.
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  Speaker 3: And and I you know, and then you got to
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  Speaker 3: worry about that because like once they learn something, right,
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  Speaker 3: like I mean, like just like humans, let's be real,
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  Speaker 3: Like I know, on I know what restaurants are on
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  Speaker 3: the way home, so I know on the way home,
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  Speaker 3: what can I stop and grab to eat? And I
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  Speaker 3: frequent those places because they're easy for me to get
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  Speaker 3: in and out of and I know what they are.
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  Speaker 3: So if there's a goat place, he's.
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  Speaker 2: Got the goat.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, next seven on the way home for him, and
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  Speaker 3: it's easy for him to hop over there and grab
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  Speaker 3: a goat.
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  Speaker 4: That is so scary.
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  Speaker 5: Well, the neighbors said they're going to get a donkey,
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  Speaker 5: and they said the donkeys will protect the goats, and
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  Speaker 5: they they the remaining goats are in pens now, so yeah,
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  Speaker 5: they hopefully they'll be protected.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, So to compliment you, John, if you've been following
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  Speaker 3: the chatter that's happening right now on our Facebook feed
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  Speaker 3: right now, there's been a lot of compliments about your newsletter.
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  Speaker 4: Is this what happens when.
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  Speaker 3: You have two weeks to like really prepare a news
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  Speaker 3: It brought me at It brought me to tears. There's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of great compliments on.
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  Speaker 5: This, and you can read some of them if you want.
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  Speaker 5: But actually that's what I'm trying to find the news
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  Speaker 5: letter for the que For some reason, it's not showing
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  Speaker 5: up in my email. Really, don't worry, I'll find it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 5: Meantime, you can handle I mean, other than you can
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  Speaker 5: take some other answered questions.
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  Speaker 2: Now, was the one particular thing that they're mentioning about.
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  Speaker 2: The newsletter. One article, one picture.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he leonor a very interesting newsletter full of great information.
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  Speaker 3: And then fabulous newsletter. John, I enjoy seeing what others
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  Speaker 3: have blooming. Colleen's a little lucky, Little Lucky is beautiful,
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  Speaker 3: wile Kathy's rose is gorgeous. John's daylight is awesome. Color
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  Speaker 3: must be day lily. Yeah that was nice John, Yeah picture,
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  Speaker 3: and then let's see here love. The newsletter might be
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  Speaker 3: that we haven't had one in a while, so I
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  Speaker 3: was so happy or happy no show in a while,
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  Speaker 3: so I was so happy to see it. I missed
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  Speaker 3: our Saturday morning together, wonderful time off and let me
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  Speaker 3: go back down here. Okay, let's get into some funny.
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  Speaker 3: Let's get into some other stuff here. Then here, okay, Tanya,
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  Speaker 3: we have so many in San Jose. Also, I keep
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  Speaker 3: an old webster outside so the children can wipe the
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  Speaker 3: webs in the morning. So many playgrounds every morning.
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  Speaker 7: Keep outside spiders, webst spiders.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, web This is funny because this is a real
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  Speaker 3: thing at our nursery that we kind of tell our
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  Speaker 3: staff to go through the nursery every morning because spider
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  Speaker 3: webs get built overnight some of the passes, so as
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  Speaker 3: you're walking through, you know, and all the time, all
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  Speaker 3: the time.
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  Speaker 2: This morning, walking up the stairs to get to my car,
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  Speaker 2: and then I can't get it. It's funny because when
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  Speaker 2: people walk into those they do they do a tribal dance.
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  Speaker 2: You see this trible dance up and down, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And let's see here, Kevin, not funny how the bark
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  Speaker 3: beetles are specifically attacking the black and white spruce trees
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  Speaker 3: in Alaska. Lots of dead and dying spruce trees in
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  Speaker 3: the forest. And they say it doesn't get cold enough
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  Speaker 3: in Alaska.
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  Speaker 4: Go fi year.
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  Speaker 3: We bought some spruce tip juice that is high in
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  Speaker 3: vitamin cee.
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  Speaker 5: Now don't they spruce tip juice?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, don't they make a lot
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  Speaker 3: of things out of the tips of like spruce and
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  Speaker 3: pines because it's super high and like, you know, vitamins.
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  Speaker 5: Now that you mentioned that, Brian was Ellen Zachos, who
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  Speaker 5: I think is in New York, and she wrote a
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  Speaker 5: book on on foraging and one of the things she
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  Speaker 5: did was make a spruce cocktail. You remember you didn't
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  Speaker 5: have it, but I mean.
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  Speaker 3: But I hear that the tips of like pine and spruces,
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  Speaker 3: you know, are good for eating, you know, and they
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  Speaker 3: had high concentration of like nutrients.
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  Speaker 5: And stuff you don't usually think of eating those things,
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  Speaker 5: just like fiddleheads, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, those are real popular too. Yeah.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: I did to find the quote of the week, all right, okay,
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: in the quote of the week, guys, was the tree
• 17:06
  Speaker 5: which moves some too. I've gotta get it a little
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: bit bigger here to tears of joy in the eyes
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: of other is only a green thing that stands in
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: the way. Some see nature all ridicule and deformity. But
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: to the eyes of imagination, nature is imagination itself.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Who was that again?
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: William Blake?
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: Do you remember what he was, Billy Blake?
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: He wrote the poem Tiger Tiger burning bright?
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: I remember that.
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Why do you insist in noise being right.
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: In the dirty darkness of the night. I read an
• 17:48
  Speaker 5: article recently on William Blake and how he was. There
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: was an article on the like fifteen people in the
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: world world who never married because of being unattractive, and he.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: Was one of those.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Really, he did propose to someone, but she rejected him.
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: Some of the others never tried song, you know, the
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: talking going back to the newsletter, And I don't mean
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: to step over you guys if you were going to
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: say something. But because of the heat we've had, you know,
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: And I forget who said. Somebody said they were afraid
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: to see their waterbilt and I don't blame them. I'm
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: kind of afraid to see mine too. But I wrote
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: an article on silver leaf plants and how that's kind
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: of nature sunscreen and how they can soften the landscape. Personally,
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: I never liked silver or gray in the landscape until
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: until I saw what's the the white sylvia.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the one that like the smudging it's called smudging
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: where they burn it like as like a cleaning.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, but I really like that kind of a
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: white gray, and it does add a cooling effect to
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: the landscape. But because of the color, it reflects sunlight.
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: So most of the not all, but I would say
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: the majority of gray leaf plants are more drought tolerant
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: than green leaf.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: So that's a grain you'll put up with. We got
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: a break coming up here, okay.
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: I mean I was gonna say one of my favorite
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: plants that I have yet to actually successfully grow in
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: my garden. It's not that it won't work. I just
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: have been not very good about doing it. That adnanthus
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: the wooly bush, it has that gray, real soft I
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: love those, and I just haven't. I've tried like three
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: or four times, saying I'm also the kind of person
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: that plants and then forgets it.
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: So but I think they would be Well, we have.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: To pay bills. Okay, let's do sponsors fertilot. This is
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: a break for Facebook Live and Bits Talk Radio. Back
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• 20:12
  Speaker 8: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
• 20:15
  Speaker 8: John and Tiger.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: We go back from the break. Thank you for joining
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: us here on Garden America thirty five years or more
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: and still going strong. Back with John beg Nasco. Brian
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: made Tiger Palafox at least right thirty five years. In
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: some in some way shape or form the show the show.
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: Yeah, wow, I thought you were talking about Tiger's age
• 20:39
  Speaker 5: for a second.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: No, in some way we've been We've been through a
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: lot of metamorphosy. I like to make up words. The
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: metamorphosis of this show has been through many things over
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: many years.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: You're thinking back to West Coast Guards.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I think so maybe forty years huh. I don't know
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: from its inception.
• 20:59
  Speaker 5: I was a show on Tiger during the break the
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: picture of the rose.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: That which doesn't look real.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, it's crazy.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Do you have blessed Demire?
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Sea Devil?
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: It was Sea Devil, yeah. And it is a rose
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: from France. I think it was bred by Dominique Massad.
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: And I've been trying to get that for like several years, really,
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: and I finally did get one that came from France,
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: and it took a couple of years to get it,
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: and then it died when it got here. But then
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: one of our listeners sent me a matter of fact,
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: it was Kathy and San Diego sent me a note
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: and she said, there's a website for a nursery that's
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: in Chino and they have a sale on a bunch
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: of roses. They're normally like fifty to sixty dollars a rose,
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: and she said they have some on sale for fifteen dollars.
• 21:59
  Speaker 5: This was the one that fifteen bucks.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: It's a beautiful rose.
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: I know, it's almost impossible. It's fine, it's not fifteen anymore.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: So I'm sorry about that, but I was able to
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: get one. And when the roses came, uh, and I
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: just got them last week. I was surprised. They were
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: between two and five gallon size. That's good price for
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: good size. Yeah, really good.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: To describe it.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: There was a description when I looked it up that
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: I think perfectly conveys what happens.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: Is it's a metamorphosis. Metamorphosis because swift Brian was just stuck.
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: I was, yeah, yeah, metamorphous I because that's it, Like
• 22:41
  Speaker 9: it changes colors as the petals open and everything like that,
• 22:45
  Speaker 9: and that it's like what would you cave when it
• 22:47
  Speaker 9: first starts like a deep purple or would you call
• 22:49
  Speaker 9: it something else?
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know about deep purple, but dark purple.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Okay, and then it kind of like fades out into
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: like almost pinkish.
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, And Dominic Massad has been working to breed
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: that characteristic into his roses, so he's got several roses
• 23:08
  Speaker 5: that are like that. Yeah, that's cool, I know, I
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: really like it. And then I was going to ask you, Tiger,
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: because was it Leonora or someone said that they like
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: the Lantana little lucky hot pink And that was by
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: the way the mistake you were looking for, Brian, because
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: obviously the newsletter it says hoy pink. Yeah, it's supposed
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: to be hot, pink and pink, and it's a proven
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: winters plant. So I was wondering if you guys carried
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: the I think it's a line of dwarfas.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they created a lot of them that are meant
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: for dwarf or pots, you know, kind of they do
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: better there.
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: And I think it's because one of the reasons is,
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: first of all, small yards are great because for that
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: because lantana can get to be huge. But I'm thinking
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: that in the rest of the country they freeze in
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: the winter, so people would you use them in the
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: summer as pop plants?
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, And and I'm sure i've you know, we've
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: seen them come across the nursery. You know, those things
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: kind of come in and out depending on time of
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: year and what growers are growing stuff. But definitely those
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: compact lantanas are a great addition to add that pompa.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Color, I think.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: And the other thing too, that a lot of the breeders,
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: so you know, lantana they also get that black spot
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: you know, kind of fungal.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Kind of disease issue.
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: They did a good job of kind of breeding that out,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: so they're a little bit more tolerant because like in pots,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: like usually they get overwatered and then they did not
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: react well to being like you can't you can't throw
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: a lantana in with your supertuni you and expect it
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: to survive because you're gonna overwater lantana and underwater the
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: supertuni you.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: So I think they've done a great job of keeping
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: them better looking because the older lantanas, you know, like
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: what was the one Texas something another where it was
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: red and white, red and yellow, and you know it
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: was great when it was blooming, but then when it wasn't,
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: it looked really ratty. Yeah I can't remember, but you know,
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: they've done a good job of.
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: People are like that. You get them all dressed up
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: the good most of the time just ratty.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: And you know it's funny because I go out to
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: people's houses all the time, and with the lantana specifically,
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: they're like, oh, I hate this plant and I'm looking
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: at it and it's perfectly healthy. It's perfectly healthy, plan
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: it's done blooming, it's not looking great.
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: Like you have kind of a different smell.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Too, Yeah, And and they go and I go, yeah,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: but like three months ago, did you just love it?
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: And they're like, oh yeah, it was amazing. It was
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: full blue, gorgeous.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, so this is this is the plant,
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: Like it's it's either you love or hate it because
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: it looks bad.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: When it doesn't look good, it's a love hate relationship.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: And then when it looks good, you can't live without it.
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: When you've picked all the tangerines off your tree, do
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: you now hate it?
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: Exactly, you know.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but like that's just the way lantana.
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: Is a point I wanted to make when we were
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: talking about that rose, and you were talking about color shifting.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: When I got the picture of the rose, that's what
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: reminded me of the floral clock that Linnaeus came up with.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: And his idea was that certain plants bloom at certain
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: times of the day, so you could create a clock
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: with those plants, and when that plant the flowers were open,
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: you wouldn't know what time of day I was, you know,
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: And an obvious example is four o'clocks. You know, they
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: open up at four o'clock, So when the flowers open up,
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: it's four o'clock, yeah, or five or six or seven
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: or yeah.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: And one of the things, it's a twelve hour o' clock.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: Because nothing, no, you get the what are those nights?
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: You know, what are those ones that bloom at midnight?
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: The like the kind of suculing bloom.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Okay.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: One of the things that was in his original clock
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: that he came up with and surprised me was water lilies.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: Did he had a water lily that would open up
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: at a certain time.
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: Without you know, it's funny you mentioned that, and I
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: mentioned the fan boat tour we were.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Driving through the over this swamp.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: The massive areas of water lilies that they have in
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: some of these areas.
• 27:36
  Speaker 7: Everywhere room, Oh my god, oh my gosh, so gorgeous.
• 27:41
  Speaker 7: So taking pictures. You've got pictures, don't you. I was
• 27:44
  Speaker 7: too busy and enjoying the ride. Jane might have pictures, right, yeah,
• 27:48
  Speaker 7: I might. I might have had some pictures. But it
• 27:51
  Speaker 7: was just amazing to see these massive areas of just
• 27:55
  Speaker 7: covered and you know, it's really neat.
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: Brian.
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: So so you got the water lily when it first
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: comes up, you know the lily pad exactly. It comes
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: up folded so it sticks out above the ground, and
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: then as it opens, it falls.
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: Under the surface of the water pad.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: And then the blooms come up kind of between them
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: and everything.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: But super cool, interesting, super neat.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah.
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Everything everything. I bet you there's a.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Flower that blooms at some point in every day because
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: it has to be with like nature. Like we're saying,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: like the night bloom is serious. The reason why they
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: bloom at night is there's some bug at night that
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: has to survive off of that.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: Whether it's true or whatever it is.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: Most of the night pollinators are moss.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Or yeah, exactly, So that's what I'm saying, Like, it
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: would not surprise me if there is. If somebody did
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: some research and they found plants and they're like, these
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: ones are morning, these ones are middle day, these ones
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: are evening, these ones are night time. Plan could you
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: could you set a clock to it?
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: No, what about night blooming jasmine.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: That's a night blooming one right like right there in
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: the evening. But I would say that it's more of
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: like an evening thing. I don't know if it's a
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: night night time.
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, And then you could tell that it was night
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: because the sun would be down. Yeah, it's not a
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: specific time.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: But and then there's the plants that turn with the day, right,
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: like sunflowers, like how they'll turn, you know, and different
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: other flowers will do that too.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: That's really neat.
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, do we get caught up on comments
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: and ques questions comments?
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: What's on your mind?
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: No, I can't find the show anymore.
• 29:41
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• 29:43
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• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Um, it feels like they're trying to cancune us.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Oh, the spider webs, that is so true. And then
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: and then some spiders their webs are strong, like when
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: you walk into one and you almost like bounce back.
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: You know. They've been trying to replicate spider strength of
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: stringer webs because it is the one of the most
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: strongest substances or materials in the world. And I'll tell
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: you I've taken I've taken a hose full blast.
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: And try to knock it down and it doesn't right, it.
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Doesn't do anything. We're up up against the clock. We
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: should take a break. This is actually the next segment
• 30:22
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• 31:16
  Speaker 8: Welcome back to the Garden America Radio Show with Brian,
• 31:19
  Speaker 8: John and Tiger.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, we are back from the break. Thank you to
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: those on BIZ Talk Radio. And again, as I was
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: so eloquently trying to explain before the break, at top
• 31:30
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• 31:36
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• 31:39
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• 31:42
  Speaker 2: of explaining that.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: And we've been so busy chatting about everything that's been
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: kind of coming across, but we do want to hit
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: on that. You know, we are in the start.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Of August, now, yeah, this August first.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: You know, is this are we officially dog days?
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: I think it's around the fifteenth.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Is dog days when you hear the hell we're getting close.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: We can't close, but it feels it feels dog dayish
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: right where it's just like one day into the next
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: and it's just drag, dragging and dragging.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: Doesn't that have something to do with the dog star?
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: The dog's wet the starar like that. It's it's there's
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: a dog star in the sky and we can only see.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: It at August fifteenth.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: Well, I think that, yeah, when that came or was
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: in the sky, Yeah, it was during the dog days.
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: I have no clue.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: I just felt like it's just because it was like
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: groundhog daysh at that point in time where we just
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: were so exhausted of it.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of levels of dog days.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: Well, I'm sure one of our listeners knows where dog
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: days came from.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: But you know, we mentioned the water bill, and I
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: know we mentioned this before, but I do want to
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: reinforce it to people. Is nighttime watering the concept that
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: go out in the evening, go out sunset. That's when
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: you water your garden, let it let it set all nice,
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: soak into the plant. The plants absorb it, the plants
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: can do all the things that they need with it.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: And that way, before the morning comes up, they're full oarate, yeah, exact,
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: and evaporate the ground.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: The ground.
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: The water soaks into the ground because like we're saying
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: that John, like if you water and it's sunny outside,
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: half of that water is going away into the air.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: And it's if you give it the evening to actually
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: soak into the ground and go into the deeper roots,
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: it'll be there for the plants when they need it.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: A lot of the big mistake people make is they
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: they oh, it's a hot day, even in the morning,
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: they like get out there in the morning they start watering.
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: I'm not saying don't do it if you haven't done it,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: but evening water is your best practice for.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: To give it that twelve hours of nighttime exactly to
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: soak up the water.
• 33:44
  Speaker 5: And what about people worried about disease, Well.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: We just talked about it, right, like we you know,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of humid, hot, humid, rainy environments and
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: they do get disease. But guess what, if you're in
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: southern California, it's not that humid, and it's it's not.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: If you were worried about jet though, you could set
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: your timers to come on early morning, right, yes, like
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: maybe like four o'clock, five o'clock in the morning.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: And then there's the concept of like just watering the ground, right,
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: like if you are handwatering, don't water the foliage.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Just water the ground.
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: You know, the plants don't need to be washed, you
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: you know, it's funny. Everybody gets their little things. So
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: all my plumerias back there, I water them all. They're
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: all in pots right now, right, I haven't planted them yet.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: By the way, we need to mention to our listener,
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: you're you're plumerius listeners. Your plumerias are phenomenal.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: Right, they're coming along. Was the humidity, right.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I told you that one that you gave me that
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: was so small. All of a sudden it is just
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: out of control.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: So here's something I do every time I water them.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: And it's stupid, but I've you know, there's these things
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: as a gardener, you just do, right, you talk to them. Well, No,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: after I've finished watering them, I always spray them because
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: I'm like, they're plumaria. They're used to getting this like
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: afternoon shower, you know.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: Kind of a thing.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: They want that foliage to be wet, and.
• 35:06
  Speaker 5: That overwashing, the dust stuff, the lead.
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and the overall humidity. Right, I do that. I
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: missed them.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: I washed them.
• 35:15
  Speaker 5: They obviously appreciate you.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think we all have an individual relationship with
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: our plants. Yeah, you might treat one a little different
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: than the other. You might want to scold them now
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: and then, but not too harsh.
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: I used to do that with my roses when we
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: had John and Bob soil Optimized. I'd use I put
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: a when I fertilized, I put a tablespoon around each plant.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: But if I like the rose, that's funny.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: How much time do you got before the break?
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: About four minutes?
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: Perfect, Okay, we're good.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: You mentioned John and Bob soil Optimizer.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: I was just working at a house this week and
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: we broadcast that onto this hillside because we just wanted
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: to improve the overall soil. And I told the homeowner before,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: I'm like, just let's just let you know for about
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: two to three days, it's gonna smell back here. Be
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: ready for it, because every time you water it, it's
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: gonna come back. It brings it up, and they were
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: like okay, okay, and the then I went back the
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: next day to do more work and they were like
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: our dogs.
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: They went running up in that hill and they just
• 36:24
  Speaker 4: were like.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: Thrashing all through it.
• 36:27
  Speaker 4: They loved it. I was like, I told you, like,
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: it's gonna smell and they're gonna love it.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: John, is it smell as bad as biosol?
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: No, nothing smells that.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know you that put biosol inside inside. I
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: had a plant byside, but.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: The John and Bob's was biosaul or didn't have biosaul
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: in it. So that's where the smell it smell comes from.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Me.
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I did that one time years ago, and
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: I came home. You did it indoors I did, and
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: I thought, oh did something. Die did a road and
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: get in here and.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Die Tanya did ask about washing the leaves and then
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: then some sun is on them.
• 37:02
  Speaker 4: Does that burn the leaves?
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: And and I do it in the evening, So I
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: don't not worried about it. But there is there is
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: some thought right like as far as like if you
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: water the plant during the heat of the day, sometimes
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: that'll burn. But I think that's more from what's in
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: the water.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: I think it's an old wives tale. Oh yeah, the
• 37:20
  Speaker 5: only and there's there might have been newer studies, but
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: the only study I ever read was done at Michigan
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: State University or u of M, one of the two,
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: and they measured the temperatures of the leaves under the
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: water droplet and the surrounding area, and they found out
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: that under the water droplet the leaf was actually cooler
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: than in an area not covered by the leaf or
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: by the water.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I remember you mentioned that before. So yeah, I
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: thought it was like an old white sail. But I
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: also feel like depending on some areas, like we have
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: very bad water, so you know, you might be putting
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: chemicals that could possibly if there if you see.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: Dan, well, if you were putting salt on the leaf, yeah,
• 38:05
  Speaker 5: of course that's gonna make it burn.
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Make it burn. Yeah, So I mean I think it
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: depends on also the water. Well, usually the but it's
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: not the actual water during the day.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, when you would see the actual ring burning on
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: a leaf after it had been watered, it was the
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: area surrounding the water drop. What that was getting burned.
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: You know, it's still cooler underneath underwater. Yeah, so anyway,
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: I guess the answer to tan is I wouldn't worry
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: about it.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, got about thirty seconds before the break and the
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: news top of the hour on BizTalk Radio. Yeah. Then
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: it's hour too, which is exciting.
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: I was just going to quickly mention Lylon Powie says
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: she used to put lantana leaves in her tea because
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: they taste like peppermint. Interesting that I thought I know
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: were poisonous.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, I know lantana berries are poisonous.
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know about the leaves though.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Interesting.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: She's still around, right, Okay, break time and again we're
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: gonna shut down on Facebook, kind of recharge, recuperate any
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: adjective you want to use, and then we're back at
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: six minutes after the hour, both on BIS Talk Radio,
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Facebook Life for BIS Talk Radio, it's hour too. Not
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: all markets carry the show, hopefully yours does. This is
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Garden America Brian Maine, John Bagnascar, Tiger Pela Fox back
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: after the news on Bistalk Radio, Stay with Us. Welcome
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: back to my friends to the show that I was
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: going to say, this show that never ends, but that's
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: not true. We do have to end the show after
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: the show is over, if that makes any sense to you.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: What I'm trying to say is welcome to hour two
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: if you're on biz Talk Radio Facebook Live if you
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: want to consider this the second half of the show,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: as we shut down Facebook and then restarted everything again,
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: just like sometimes they'll tell you if you're having a
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: problem with your computer, just restart. Something's not working, it's
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: freezing up. Restart. So that's what we do when we
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: start the show after the first hour, after the first
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: several segments of Guard to America, John.
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: That's what I do when I'm polishing my book is
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: if something doesn't make sense, I just look at the
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: chapter and restart.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: What do you use too? What do you use to
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: polish it? What kind of cleaner?
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: I was using Purple pros and that was just way.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: Too much, I can imagine. So, Tiger, what do we
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: have going on with the questions and comments? If any
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Right now, we're going to go back. We're going to
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: go back a little bit now.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: I am also kind of worried that people have not
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: joined the program, right, So should we go back yet?
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: Maybe do a little bit, wait a few minutes people
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: because some comments that question wanted to answer.
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: But I will say one of the chatter was spider webs,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: and one of our listeners said, Okay, Tanya, I love
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: their webs, but the first time I saw an orb
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: web weaver spider, OMG, I had nightmares. Now I'm finally
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: over it and appreciate their beautiful markings. And this is
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: something that I think is brings like a great thought
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: into being able to kind of like appreciate things. Is
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: you know, sometimes when we first see things or experience things,
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: they're obviously scary, absolutely, But if you can just kind
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: of move past that a little bit and start to
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: appreciate like the beauty and the the uniqueness or the
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: difference in something, it helps you move past that fear
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: and kind of understanding. Before the show, we were talking
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: about sharks and orca whales and all these other things,
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: and you know, I mean, initially I'm sure they were
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: very scary in everything, but now we kind of learn
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: the beauty and you know, the understanding, and you know
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: all of that because when we look a little deeper,
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: we can find more than it than just the fear.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Fear works two ways. A lot of times you're afraid
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: of something because you don't understand it. Yeah, you don't
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: understand it, and then when it's explained to you, some
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: of that fear goes away. On the other hand, sometimes
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: there's a good reason to be afraid of something. The
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: more you learn about something, the more reason you do
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: have to fear it. And of course we know the
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: famous Roosevelt quote John.
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: Right about how you have nothing to fear but fear itself.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: We have nothing to fear but fear itself. Yeah.
• 42:47
  Speaker 5: Right, So in a way, when you think about that,
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: I thought you were talking about spiders, and the quote
• 42:53
  Speaker 5: going through my mind was who said, oh, what a
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: tangled web we we.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: We first when we were first practice to deceive?
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: Uh right, My guess would be Alexander Pope who wrote that. Yeah,
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: I'm not sure. And you know what was ironic as
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: he wasn't til Pope.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: No. Do you know how do you know who had
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: the most quotes over history in general? The person with
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: the most famous.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: Quotes, I'd say Jesus. No, well he's in the running, anonymous, Anonymous.
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: I think Jesus beats him.
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: Okay, so can we answer a question now, Yeah.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: We're gearing back up, more people are joining us.
• 43:35
  Speaker 5: Okay. Well, Daisy, by the way, mentioned that this is
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: the first time she's been able to get Part two
• 43:40
  Speaker 5: in several months.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Nice way to go see how much fun part two is.
• 43:44
  Speaker 5: But you know what, now, the all the glamor is
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: going to just like you're talking, once you're familiar with something,
• 43:52
  Speaker 5: it's like I wasn't missing anything.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: What's all the hub up about?
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: Right way? We We're glad for for our listeners that
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: are persistent willing to join us again.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: Carlo says that she broke down and bought phone storage.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: So I think if you set me part of your
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: book it would come through. Would love to read it.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: I love it. Uh, I'll do that. Yeah, Paul if
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: I remember.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Paula last hour asked my Lantana is full of black spot.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: It's been a beautiful, rich orange.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: Can I save it? And this is what we.
• 44:33
  Speaker 5: Were talking about from russ to Blacks.
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: But yeah, but this.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Is what we're talking about with Lantana is that when
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: it's done doing its beauty, when it's done blooming and
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: all that new growth.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: This is when you start to hate it.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: It looks bad and it's got black spot and it's
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: sparse and there's no flowers, and the flowers are dried
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: and dead, and.
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: It just doesn't look good.
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: So what you do fertilize it, keep watering it, and
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: it'll flush all that out again and it'll become beautiful again.
• 45:07
  Speaker 3: It takes about like three months, but it'll do it again.
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: But it's just you cut it back first.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you want to, like, that's a great
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: thing to do, right, Chris, you get.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: All you get all new leaves.
• 45:17
  Speaker 5: I do want to caution people about fertilizing in this
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: hot weather. Oh yeah, yeah, because yeah, and you would think,
• 45:26
  Speaker 5: let's say I've been gardening for sixty some years, no,
• 45:30
  Speaker 5: seventy some years, but I've killed this year over fifty
• 45:38
  Speaker 5: roses fertilizing it.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: By fertilizing, how many committed suicide just on their own?
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: It was all murder.
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: It was the two scoops of biosoal So I'm beginning
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: gives his favorite roses too.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I'm beginning to understand John works kind of in a
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: percentage game here with his roses. He has so many,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: how many.
• 45:58
  Speaker 5: Did you lose over fifty?
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, but when you're looking at fifteen hundred roses. That's
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: not bad. If somebody only had sixty roses and fifty died,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: that's a problem.
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: I guess you. Yeah, but you don't want to.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Lose any of them, obviously, But still it's a numbers game.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: You know.
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: I see Paula just joined and you had just given. Oh,
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: just joined to Paul's question on the Lantana and Paula
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: basically we were saying that if you want to cut
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: it back a little bit, and Tiger says, some fertilizer
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: this time of year. Probably used an organic fertilizer, right, either, right,
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: because any chemical fertilizer could burn.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it'll come back. Yeah, it'll be fine. It
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: takes about like two or three months, like I said,
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: and it'll come back. It'll be beautiful, and you'll be
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: happy with it again for another month or two, and
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: then he'll do it all over again.
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: On the h O would a tangled web we weave?
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: Carla said she would have guessed Shakespeare, But I since
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: that's just a guess, Carla, I'm going to stick with
• 46:59
  Speaker 5: Alexander Pope until somebody looks it up and finds out
• 47:03
  Speaker 5: who really did it. Leonor back to my book, I
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: love talking about myself.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah he does, he really does.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: I do.
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: But anyway, she said that I kept asking how to
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: get John's book and still don't know. Please let me know,
• 47:23
  Speaker 5: just to make it clear for our listeners who haven't
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: been bored by the book talk, it's not finished, it's
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: not published. And what I've been doing is sending the
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: first three or four chapters to people who were interested
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: to get comments. And I do have to say that
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: I've probably made because of comments from listeners, probably made
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: fifty to sixty changes based directly on their comments.
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: Cool.
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so I really you are receptive. I am receptive
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: to comments, especially you know. Then this is this getting
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: a little off the subject again. But I've a book
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: when we were in Alaska, Bye. I won't mention the
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: author because I wouldn't want somebody to bed mouth me,
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: but I would say it was the absolute worst book
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: I've ever read in my life. And I forced myself
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: to read it because I thought, you know, I certainly
• 48:19
  Speaker 5: don't want to put out anything that's like this.
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: Gotcha, God, it gives you some hope, doesn't.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: It, you know? And and then I looked and I
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: saw that it was published by Amazon, so it was
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: self published. But and I figured out, well, that explains it.
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: But what it didn't explain was that it was on
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: its third printing. WHOA, so I have to find out
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: how many does Amazon require for a minimum? That this
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: got printed three times and it can't be from recommendations.
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: It was so bad. It was so bad that I
• 48:50
  Speaker 5: showed my wife one chapter. I said, read the second
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: to the last chapter or paragraph, I'm sorry, read the
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: second to the last paragraph in this chapter. And she
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: read it. She said yeah, And I said, breathed the
• 49:02
  Speaker 5: one right, the last one identical. So I mean it
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: was an obvious mistake. Yeah, but I mean that kind
• 49:09
  Speaker 5: of stuff just appeared through the whole thing.
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, to kind of deal says it with sir
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: Walter Scott.
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: That's what. Yeah, I was gonna say. Deal Walter Scott
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: was the.
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: A tangled web. But is that true or is that
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: a guest dell?
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah's see.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: Kevin though, made a funny comment because back to you
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: about talking about yourself and uh, you know your book.
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I've been toubting John as one of
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: the greatest Rose experts in the world, and now he
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: tells us that he's killing them Wow.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: On that note, we're going to take a break. Way
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: to go, Kevin.
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: But is Brian, as you pointed out, percentage wise, they
• 49:49
  Speaker 5: still have a good.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: Doing a great job. It's gard in America. We are
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: back in the saddle. John magnasco Tucket, Palafox. I'm Brian Maine.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: Thank you for all your questions, your comments back after
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: these messages on KIS Talk Radio. Okay, there we go.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: You probably saw me kept poking the timer there better
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: than poking the bear. Hi John, Okay, we're back.
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: This is the last comment on the books Garden America, folks,
• 50:56
  Speaker 5: because people are saying, are you still sharing it? I'd
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: like to read it. One of the comments I got
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: back from listeners who I did share it with said, oh,
• 51:07
  Speaker 5: I was really surprised to find out what'sn't a garden book?
• 51:11
  Speaker 5: So first of all, if you do want to read
• 51:15
  Speaker 5: some of the chapters and and make critical comments or
• 51:19
  Speaker 5: critique it, just send me a note to Johnigardenamerica dot com.
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: And it is a fiction book, has nothing to do
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: with gardening, so that's enough.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Dell answered our question to the oh, what a tangle
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: we we weave? Sir Walter Scott the poem Marmion, true, thank.
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: You del so he is.
• 51:47
  Speaker 5: He is confirmed, Scott.
• 51:50
  Speaker 3: Haven't you thrown a few quote of the weeks from him?
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: In?
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: Also?
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: I feel.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: There's been a few others, sir. There's been a few sirs,
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: I feel in the quote of the weeks, but maybe
• 52:04
  Speaker 3: not Walter Scott.
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: How about Sir Walter Rawleig. We all learned about him
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: in school Tobacco baron right John.
• 52:13
  Speaker 5: He was the guy who put his cloak out for
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: the queen to walk across right the mud puddle.
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: Really I did not.
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: I did not learn that in elementary school.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: You know, I just my mind, you know what, Oh
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: my gosh, somebody will say something, as you know, my
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: mind goes like a thousand different directions. And there was
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: a movie where somebody, I'm sure it's happened many times,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: put their coat down for a woman to cross over
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: a puddle. And it was in Hard Day's Night when
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: Ringo puts his coat down. He was having a reflective
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: I thought that.
• 52:43
  Speaker 5: Was Sir Walter Rawley that yeah.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but he was a cigarette guy.
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: He was a big plantation in the car in North
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: or South Carolina, I believe. And again somebody can factor.
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: Maybe it's one.
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: Of the sirs.
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: They just hand out those swers to anyone, don't.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: They seems like it lately, Right, everybody's a sir.
• 53:08
  Speaker 5: It wasn't Ringo Starr and Paul McCartney.
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: No, Paul McCartney's a sir. Mcjagger's a sir. Elton John's
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: a sir. You know what it has to do with
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: how much money and taxes they paid into England. That's
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: my theory on that you've done so much for our
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: economy you are now a sir.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: That's funny.
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: So you know, I guess we can't get away from
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: the book. Kevin said, if you can incorporate a love
• 53:33
  Speaker 5: story into it, then more folks might read it. Yeah,
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: I think just my two cents worth they're actually is
• 53:43
  Speaker 5: part of a love story in there. But I think
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: that Kevin would appreciate is that two of the characters
• 53:50
  Speaker 5: are named Tiger and Brian.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: It's nothing to do with.
• 53:54
  Speaker 5: The real Tiger and Brian.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: They don't believe he's saying, but he completely as our
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: personalities and puts them in the book.
• 54:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just because Brian does a podcast and Tigers.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: And wears everywhere.
• 54:07
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's funny.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: And in fact, he didn't ask our permission, he just
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: did it.
• 54:12
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I did.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: I see a lawsuit. I see a loss suit coming up.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't have mind.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: I'm just I'm just laying low.
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: I'm waiting for that book to become successful.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: So I can say I know exactly right.
• 54:24
  Speaker 5: By then you'll be welcome to it. I think the
• 54:28
  Speaker 5: beginning of the book is going to have a disclaimer
• 54:31
  Speaker 5: that says, any reference to real people this is purely fictional.
• 54:36
  Speaker 5: Anything any reference is purely accidental.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: So let's talk because back to gardening, because Brian mentioned
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: an important thing that I think that we should talk
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: about before the show off the air, because John, I
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: mean John has potted plants. So we talked about how
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: he has to water all the time. And John loves
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: a very well draining potting soil, which makes.
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: Us otherwise like kill them, Yeah, which makes also have
• 55:03
  Speaker 5: to water.
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: Right, Okay, I have more of an in ground guard,
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: and so I get a lot of leeway with the
• 55:12
  Speaker 3: way I water and how I water. Brian, you mentioned
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: you your potted plants are also in the shade, and
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: you're still having to water more for you said your
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: hydranger specifically.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: Right now there's more there's more sunshine this time of
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: the year. But still my hydrangea is just every day
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: it just looks like it looks like it just wants help.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: It looks like it's on the corner begging for food
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: or money. It just has this just look to it,
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: you know, and I talk to it, I water it.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: It is a great indicator.
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: Where did you get that from? The little sign that
• 55:45
  Speaker 5: said we'll bloom for food?
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: Exactly?
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly?
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: Does it just have leaves right now or any blooms it's.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: Got, Well, it started to get blooms and the blooms
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: stopped and they don't. It just doesn't look good. And
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: I'm doing everything for it.
• 55:59
  Speaker 5: You know, there's that.
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about.
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: Trying to think of the name. Is it called bridal veil? Uh,
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: some kind of veil hydrangea that was I think approven
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: winters And it's made for pots, I guess because it's trailing.
• 56:13
  Speaker 5: And anyway, I have I have two of those and
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: they're spectacular right now, just one hundred percent loaded with ballooms,
• 56:23
  Speaker 5: bright green leaves and in pots. So that's when you
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: should look at Brian, I think I got mine at
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: home depot.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: And it's part shade, full shade, back porch, full.
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: Shade then yeah, except for light later or like yeah.
• 56:39
  Speaker 4: The sunsetting or something like that.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, And do you think because Brian, it's kind of
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: hard to determine, but like John, you have potted plants
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: in the front, like your drive where you got those cypresses,
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: I think are in potted plants or something. You have
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: something in potted on your front porch.
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: Oh thou are our braided fight aslee.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Now okay, so those pots I imagine get very hot
• 57:11
  Speaker 3: like the pot itself. Right, So do you think that
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: also has a factor in with watering as well, or
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: you know, because they're ceramic pots so.
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: No, they're plastic.
• 57:21
  Speaker 3: Oh they're plastic. Oh so they get real.
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: Hot, right, so, which I think contributes to the fact
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: that the plants look so bad?
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: Right, really do they? Because that last time I was
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: they looked great.
• 57:31
  Speaker 5: But you know what I think the problem is is,
• 57:34
  Speaker 5: you know, trying to know when to water and those
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: pots don't have drainage. Oh really watering game, right, Yeah.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: You're either overwatering or you're underwater, right.
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: So I was telling my daughter before they went home
• 57:49
  Speaker 5: that I said, you know, I think I'm going to
• 57:51
  Speaker 5: just take them out and I'm going to drill holes
• 57:54
  Speaker 5: in the butt and replant. I think they'll do much better.
• 57:58
  Speaker 3: Somebody, my my sister in law, was like, hey, my
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: friend's looking to order these.
• 58:04
  Speaker 4: Do you think that they're a good idea? They were.
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: It was a Fiddley fig.
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: It was the equivalent to like maybe like a ten
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: inch pot, and it was something that you buy online,
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: but it came in a self watering pot and it
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: was nine hundred dollars. Yes, I was like for that
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: for a ten inch Philly fig, which I think you
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: can probably find it a nonimal nursery.
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: For like fifty dollars. Yeah, fifty dollars at home depot.
• 58:32
  Speaker 5: It's what I paid for mine. Yeah, it might have
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: been in sale, I don't know, but that's fifty bucks.
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: Let's say it's one hundred six six foot tall.
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's say it's even a little bit more than
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: Why the heavy price.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: Because of this self watering pot?
• 58:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, which you can buy for another seventy eighty.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: But again, like with John is saying, those self watering
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: pots also are even in the home.
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't know.
• 58:54
  Speaker 4: It's that balancing act.
• 58:56
  Speaker 5: If it was in the house, you could And you're
• 58:58
  Speaker 5: somebody who leaves a lot. If you go on a
• 59:00
  Speaker 5: week or two week vacation, you come back, you know
• 59:03
  Speaker 5: it'll probably still be alive.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: We gotta take a break, all right, Two more coming, Yeah,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: question the question that it's our it's our questions, question
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: of the week, Questions of the week coming up next week,
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: and again have two more segments after this, taking a break,
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: This talk radium, this is Garden has promised we are
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: back here on guard in America. Uh. This is one
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: of a longer segments, just over ten minutes, so plenty
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: of time for our questions and comments segment here. As
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: Tiger mentioned as the teas before the break, Carl.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 5: Asks is a deep philosophical question I do.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 3: But before we get to that, Oh okay, okay, I
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: just want to mention Tanya's comment, Brian, you need to
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: tell it. We're talking about your hydrangea. Brian, you need
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: to tell it. You're going to toss it out if
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: it doesn't start doing better.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: Threats work, so well, yeah, it might come to that.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: I've been so patient up to this point in time.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: Oh some days I think, oh looking good.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: Okay, you remember the story I told you guys about
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 5: the gardenia my grandmother had in Michigan. And this was
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 5: back in the when was the house playing Craze the seventies. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: late sixties, early seven exactly. And she had a gardenia
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: and it wasn't blooming. And everybody in Michigan wanted gardenias,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: you know, they're so spectacular. They'd sell them at Mother's
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: Day and then they never blew again. And I went
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: over to her house. And that's back when Jerry Baker
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: wrote the book Plants Are Like People, and they were
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: talking about you got to talk to your plants, you know,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 5: play music to them. So anyway, I went over to
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 5: my grandma's house and she had a guardania and she
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: was complaining it wasn't blooming. And I said, well, Grandma,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 5: you got to talk to it. And she was from Italy,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 5: so she did not. Sometimes she wondered, you know what
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 5: am I really saying? But I you know, I explained
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: to her that you had to talk to your plants first.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: She was incredulous. It's like, no, you're just joking. No, absolutely.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 5: Three weeks later, I go back and the plants in
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 5: full bloom look spectacular, and I said, Grandma, did you
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: talk to it?
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I said, what did you say? I said,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 5: if you don't throw, if you don't bloom, I'm going
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 5: to throw you in the garbage.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 2: Did she speak English or Italian to the plant?
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 4: Maybe?
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: Is guardenias are from Asia, so she has to speak
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: what I just one of your.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 5: I don't know. I don't know what she told me
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: something to them both languages. My wife first met my grandmother.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: I think I told you guys this. She had come
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: over for dinner. My grandmother was a fantastic cook Italian cook,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: and we had dinner and we spent the whole whole
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: day together. I introduced him to my fiance for the
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: first time. And afterwards, I'm talking to Shannon. I said,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: I said, so, did you like my grandmother? She goes, yeah,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 5: she said, and I said, well, it sounds like you're question.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: She says, well, I just felt left out of the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: conversation because everybody was speaking Italian and I didn't understand.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 5: And I said, honey, when my grandmother spoke to you,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: she was speaking English. So anyway, all right, Carlos philosophist. Question,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: She goes, John, do you have any roses you kind
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: of wish what?
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: I have?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: Some I wanted so badly and once I got them,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry because they're so diseased prone. I would say, honestly, no,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 5: I don't have any that I wish would die. And
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: maybe it's because so many are dying all the time
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 5: that I don't have time to wish anything on a
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 5: bad one. But if something someone on the coast has
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: a rose that's disease prone, you know, make a gift
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: to somebody Inland where it's not going to have a problem, right.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly. They are good gifts.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 5: And they also just a quick tip for listeners on
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: the coast, if you buy roses that are from England,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: which is closer to our climate, they'll probably be less
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: disease prone or more disease problem. English roses less disease prone.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: I'm sorry. And then the newest roses from Germany. Germany's
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 5: outlawed chemicals years ago, so all the new breeding was
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 5: for disease resistant roses.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: And Leonora made a comment and I think I can
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: answer this real quick because it's just a recap. I
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: didn't understand why John lost so many roses, like what
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: happens if you fertilize when temperatures are high? Did understand
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: why exactly? I think she didn't catch why you don't
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: fertilize when temperatures are high and leonor it's because when
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: you fertilize you can potentially burn the plant when during
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: high temperatures. You know, we talk about heat, and you
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 3: know we talk about you know, fertilizers are hot products.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 4: And so there's salts lot.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you put fertilizer down and it's hot outside,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: it's intensifying the whole issue. Fertilizers need to be watered in, well,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 3: need to be cool when you apply.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: So you yeah, exactly. So the reason I lost so
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 5: many is number one, I'm old, so well, yeah, because
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: I have the same mix that I use every year
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: for my roses. But this year, for some reason, I
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: mixed up the first batch and I doubled the amount
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 5: that I normally put in one of the fertilizers, and
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 5: that was the fertilizer that burned. So as soon as
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 5: the weather got hot, everything just fried.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: Kevin has an interesting uh comment, Would you all agree
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: that the very best house plant would be a cheff learra.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: Now that is not spelt correctly. I'm not trying to correct.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: I'm just letting you know, for anybody reading it, chef
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: Learra is s c h E f f l A.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: I believe most attractive EO. I'm sorry, most attractive and
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: easiest to take care of. I would agree that at
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: Schefflaar is a great house plant. I think that there
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: they are attractive and they are easy.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: Would you all.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: Agree that it's the very best? I think that's a
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: loaded question. Kevin and I think that everybody has a
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: little bit different of opinions on that.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 5: Depends what you want a house plan. Some people might
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: think the very best are the ones that take no
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 5: care sa San Saveria, right yeah, but yeah, a large
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 5: plant can put the bill, but they you know, they
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: can get scale, right yeah?
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 4: Well, and then the funny thing too, is Kevin's from.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: Idaho, right he lives there now, right? Or Kevin is
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: in Idaho. Schefflair is to me are outdoor plants. Yeah,
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: I don't think of them as an indoor plant, right.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: But that's just me.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: What do you think of a ficus as far as
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: what do you mean indoor outdoor? What? What do you
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: how do you see as more or less?
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: Ficuses go both ways for me because there are obviously
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: outdoor varieties and there are obviously it's a very versatile
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: plant in that way. For me, I don't see indoor
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: or outdoor. But like porthos, I know they can grow outside,
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: but I see.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Them as Yeah, and I would one of the most
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: easy if you're, you know, a very beginner gardener athos.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: You had a pathos in the our old studio that
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: never never got like it never soil.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: And it just grew like like I couldn't kill it.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 4: I know.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I said, I'm gonna kill you, and you can. Yeah, try,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: go ahead and try.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: John and Bonnie Livingstone. I'm still losing my battle with nutgrass.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: Remind me of the fertilum product to kill it. Been
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: using sedge hammer since February with not much success. So
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: I used sedge hammer before, and I agree with you,
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: but you can mix it stronger, John or Bonnie John,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: So you know you can mix it stronger, and I
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: highly recommend doing that because it works. But I also
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: use the fertilum product, which is just nutgrass spray or
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: nutgrass killer. It's that's all it is is that's the
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: product from Fertilum and I use that one time with
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: one hundred percent success. So so I highly recommend if
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: you can find the Fertilom product use it because it
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: worked a lot better for me than sedgehammer.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: Do you guys say have that at your nursery.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: Yes, yes, So I highly recommend.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 5: Karlahead nutgrass too, if I'm not mistaken. Oh really yeah, yeah,
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 5: not positive, but I seem to recall that.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So Paula mentioned she bought the sledge sedge
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: hammer and hasn't used it yet. You know, there's the
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: nutgrass nihilator, sedge hammer. I think those are all products
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: that you have to mix and spray. Fertilum was one
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: of the few that I found and are ready to use.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: I mean also sell it concentrate too, But I really
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: did appreciate that one. You know, when I use it, it
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: worked well because I have nut grass up in my
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: actually my synthetic grass area. Nut grass comes up right,
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: so it's really easy for me to spray it there.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 4: And it worked really well.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: So like that, and it actually hasn't come back so
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty pretty happy with the results.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: Got a minute to the break just wow. All right,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: keep your thoughts on time.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: Here VERANNAA mentioned that she likes arcis and house plants
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 5: because she said they're easy to take care of. Yes,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 5: but again not a tree, no, you know, just table top,
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 5: you know, and if you want a blooming plant.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 5: It used to be the violets, African.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: Violets, they were pending so popular.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but now orchids, Yeah, are the African violet of
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 5: the twenty first century.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: Paula, Do you have to use the sedge hammer solution
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: once it's mixed? So, yeah, once you mix it, it
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  Speaker 3: does have a time frame. I know, it's not like days.
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  Speaker 3: It's gonna be more like months kind of a thing.
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  Speaker 3: If you keep the bottle in a closet somewhere, you know,
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  Speaker 3: not fully exposed.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, you can't just like keep it forever.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, break time. We have one more segment coming out.
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  Speaker 4: I thought that was the last one.
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  Speaker 2: No, we have one more. We're gonna sneak. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: sneak one more in for you. A right for Vince
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. Good to be back. One
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  Speaker 2: more segment coming up. Back after these messages on.
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  Speaker 5: FNS talk, read.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we are back. The epilogue. This is the epilogue.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe a few questions, wrapping things up, any last minute business.
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  Speaker 3: So we didn't even do like an intro coming back anymore.
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  Speaker 6: You're just say we're back, we're back, were back, we'd
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  Speaker 6: be back, We're back, we'd be back, we'll be back,
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  Speaker 6: we are back.
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  Speaker 2: No intro.
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  Speaker 4: Everything's different, guard in America.
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  Speaker 2: Everyone's different.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to the show, John Tiger, Brian.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes I do, sometimes I don't, And you know why,
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  Speaker 2: so you want to You want to be very careful
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  Speaker 2: about repetitiveness, robotic Okay, same thing all the time, same
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  Speaker 2: thing all the time.
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  Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting about you mentioning the epilogue since
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  Speaker 5: we've been talking about my book so much, is that
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  Speaker 5: Brian does the epilogue in my book.
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  Speaker 3: And he just says, we're back, We're back.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, I wanted to ask you guys, if
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  Speaker 5: we do a book on tape, do you guys want
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  Speaker 5: to play Brian?
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  Speaker 4: Definitely?
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  Speaker 2: Why not? Why not? Absolutely?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd be offended if you didn't have to get
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: you scripts all right, oh, all right, okay, let's see here.
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  Speaker 5: Leonard said that a rubber plants dying after twenty years. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: all of a sudden it lost all its sleeves, and
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  Speaker 5: the reasons seemed to be too much water.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean, that's that is the challenge with sometimes
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  Speaker 3: like house plants, is that they can shift right on
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  Speaker 3: their situations, right, and it's nothing you do directly, and.
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  Speaker 5: Usually a rubber plants going to tolerate being dry, right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, right, So, like you know, I mean that is
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  Speaker 3: the challenge, right, is making sure you're you almost have
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  Speaker 3: to always make it happy, you know, kind of a thing.
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  Speaker 2: I've got a rubber pant, pant, rubber plant, rubber pants,
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  Speaker 2: a rubber plant in my patio.
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  Speaker 5: Well, you're at that age.
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  Speaker 2: Toward the house, careful toward the house in the corner.
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  Speaker 2: It gets mostly shade, just a little bit of sun,
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  Speaker 2: and you know what, it goes crazy. It's just thriving
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  Speaker 2: out there, not in direct sunlight. Though when you cut it,
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  Speaker 2: you get that milky substance that comes off to you.
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  Speaker 2: Gotta be real careful.
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  Speaker 5: Karla wants John to share where he finds the fertile
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  Speaker 5: loan product. Apparently she does have it. What it has
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  Speaker 5: nutgrass talking about?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, let me see. I'll post a I'll post
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  Speaker 3: a link.
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  Speaker 2: A link to fertilum for all you nutgrass people.
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  Speaker 3: MS Killer Boom John agreed with Kevin.
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  Speaker 5: He's got a cheffal Era is an indoorhouse planning waters
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  Speaker 5: it once a week and it's hardy and showy.
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  Speaker 2: Hardy and showy.
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  Speaker 4: I like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds like a morning team on the radio.
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  Speaker 5: Dana said, seems to not believe that you finished another hour.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's true. We were talking about the rubber plant Dana, which,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, she had before we met and got married.
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  Speaker 2: Oh so that was twenty five years ago or so.
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  Speaker 2: And again it's doing very well.
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  Speaker 5: Wow.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, when you say a rubber plant, what are you
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  Speaker 3: talking about?
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  Speaker 4: Oops?
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  Speaker 2: There goes another rubber tree, which the ones of the
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  Speaker 2: nice big.
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  Speaker 4: Leaves his decora. Is that what when you think of.
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  Speaker 5: Rubber plants?
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  Speaker 2: Fight is the car? Yeah, that's that's exactly what it is.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, Lisa wants to know Tiger, if you can tell
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  Speaker 5: her how to take care of a staghorn firm.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, how to take care of Where is Lisa?
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  Speaker 5: Lisa's in San diegoh No, Lisa's in Redding, Reading, so
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  Speaker 5: it needs to be in full shade, but protected right
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  Speaker 5: from the cold. They won't take the cold, yeah, like
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  Speaker 5: and they.
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  Speaker 4: Have a shade up.
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  Speaker 3: Reading is extreme in an environment that, like you said,
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  Speaker 3: can't get frost, so you know, up in a patio,
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  Speaker 3: up in a tree, up in something that something that
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  Speaker 3: you could reach and kind of missed.
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  Speaker 5: But at the same time, even bring it indoors in
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  Speaker 5: the winter if you know, you get really cold.
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  Speaker 3: Right, I mean, because like if you're yeah, if you're
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  Speaker 3: gonna go to freezing. But usually if it's like a
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  Speaker 3: patio kind of against the house, then that's not such
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  Speaker 3: a big issue. But it's you know, and then I
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  Speaker 3: I to make it easier too. A lot of people
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  Speaker 3: put them on like a redwood backing, yes, right, and
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  Speaker 3: they mount them as if.
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  Speaker 4: It's like a picture. Those are great.
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  Speaker 3: I love them, but what happens is they end up
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  Speaker 3: growing out and then they just get big and heavy
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  Speaker 3: like that. I've recently started to favor that whole wire
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  Speaker 3: basket kind of and you put it in the wire
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  Speaker 3: basket and then you just what you said, you can
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  Speaker 3: always take that inside very easily.
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  Speaker 2: It's difficult to take the boards off, like the head
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  Speaker 2: of a deer.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, they do, right, Like don't they call them like
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: deer something like staghorns, like antler or something.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but like yeah, that's but but uh.
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  Speaker 3: I like the whole bath, you know, the so what
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  Speaker 3: it was if I can describe it, is they used
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  Speaker 3: to or they still do. They they sell these wire
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  Speaker 3: baskets that you lined with moss, and that's what you
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: would put your like, you know, your hanging basket plants
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  Speaker 3: and and flowers and all that kind of stuff. Well,
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  Speaker 3: if you take that same basket and you put your
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  Speaker 3: staghorn in it and you hang it up, you can
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  Speaker 3: still miss it.
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  Speaker 4: It grows through it.
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  Speaker 3: The wire is strong enough to hold it, and it's
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  Speaker 3: you know, last a lot longer.
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  Speaker 5: So Lisa said she's using hers as a house play. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: so is is she doesn't need a really bright light? Right?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: That's very well it room and it like you're saying
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  Speaker 5: it should be put out for the summer.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, so in direct.
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  Speaker 3: Light though, And then what are your thoughts on the
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: banana peel thing? I knew I was gonna because I
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  Speaker 3: wanted to address that because a lot of people say
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  Speaker 3: you throw you throw banana peels in the like back
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  Speaker 3: of it because there's like potassium or whatever decomposing material.
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  Speaker 4: And and hey it's a nutrient.
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  Speaker 3: Like throw banana piels in your garden, like for all
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  Speaker 3: you know, that's you're getting the same.
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  Speaker 2: Were you thinking the same thing? I was right off
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  Speaker 2: the bat though, the banana peels from the sixties. What
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  Speaker 2: people used to do what they do with they were
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  Speaker 2: smoked banana peels.
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  Speaker 3: Really yeah, they would get they would but try him out.
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  Speaker 2: And what kind of high was that? John, I don't know,
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: but you were on.
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  Speaker 5: The don't remember you were on the West Coast. I
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  Speaker 5: never even Oh that.
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  Speaker 2: Was a big San Francisco hippie West Coast thing. Rel Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: look at it. Yeah you can google it. Look it
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: up smoking banana peals. We've got one minute exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So So anyways, outside in the summertime, inside in the wintertime,
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  Speaker 3: I like the hanging basket method. Lots of light, and
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  Speaker 3: the watering is just kind of like a misting maybe
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: like once a week kind of a thing.
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  Speaker 4: Other than that, it's fine.
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  Speaker 5: Kevin wants to know. He wonders how long certain plants
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: will live. Oh yeah, that's a big question, right annuals, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: one year complete their life cycle. But redwood trees six
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  Speaker 5: thousand years.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Olive trees can be long.
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  Speaker 5: By the way, quickly. The book Brook where I read
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 5: that I Told You was so bad. She talks about
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: the longest zip line in the world and being in
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 5: Alaska going over trees over one thousand feet tall, thousand
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 5: feet tall, Caesar's over one thousand feet tall, when of
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  Speaker 5: the largest tree in the world is three hundreds.
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  Speaker 2: It's all leave you on that note. Yeah, all ry,
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  Speaker 2: thank you for joining us. It is good to be back.
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  Speaker 2: The boys back in town. Brian Main, John Magnascar, Tucket,
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  Speaker 2: Pela Fox. Have a great rest of your weekend, A
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  Speaker 6: Take care to