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Welcome to this next installment of Opposition Territory here at the Philadelphia Sports Table podcast
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show, the longest running weekly Philly sports podcast show in the world. That's
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right, ten years strong. We got great content coming your way here on
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Opposition Territory and for the rest of this week. Hey, we got great
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content coming to you next week two, well into the future. But let's
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concentrate on what we're going to be getting into on this particular podcast, and
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that's the Tennessee Titans. A very interesting team. They've gone through some changes.
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The quarterback situation is absolutely fascinating as we're heading into this twenty twenty three
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season, we're certainly gonna be getting through that in our discussion. Well,
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let's get to it right now. It's great to have back on the podcast
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to get into this Tennessee Titans team. What's been happening with this team during
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the offseason, what we can expect during this twenty twenty three season. From
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A to Z sports dot Com, we love our good friends over at A
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to Z Sports. He is coming to us from the Tennessee Titans area.
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In realm. We've got mister Sam Failing. Hey, are you doing buddy,
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I'm doing good, jeff Man. Happy to hop on. Yep,
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you got it right down here in Nashville, down in Titans Land and uh
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living it up with the Titans here throughout OTA's Mini camp and this offseason.
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Ready for football to be back. Absolutely absolutely. I think we got like,
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what eighty eight days. I know, I know it's eighty eight days
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until the Eagles actually kick off, So I think it's a few more days
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I think until the Titans kickoff. But man, I need football back.
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I need it. We're in that, we're in that that stage here where
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we got baseball, and that's basically a here, you know. So,
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uh, I love baseball. Baseball I would maybe my number one sport.
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When my team isn't doing so well, summer becomes pretty long and dragging.
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Yeah. Sometimes absolutely well. This Tennessee Titans team, Sam, is so
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interesting to me, and not just simply from what has happened with regard to
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the offseason, but just the various dynamics that we saw from last year,
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how it translates into what we might see in twenty twenty three when they take
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the field during the regular season. And I remember the last time that you
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were on the podcast, we were heading into Week thirteen last season, it
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was Eagles Titans in Philly at the Link, and I was really concerned.
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I remember on that that particular show, that that preview show, I was
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worried about the Titans defense. And at the end of the day, man,
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the Eagles really took it to them. Eagles won that game thirty five
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to ten, and the defense, the Titans defense gave up nearly four d
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passing yards to the Eagles in that game, and up until then, the
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Titans they hadn't allowed their opponents to score more than twenty points in their previous
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eight games there. So again I was worried about the defense last year.
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But I don't know. The Eagles again and being a prolific team, I
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mean, they're a team that went to the Super Bowl, really took it
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to them. I'm wondering, was the Eagles Titans game last year was that
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kind of the nail in the coffin for the Titans And was that the moment
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that truly kind of ended their season or was there another moment that you can
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think of that was maybe more relevant than that particular game. I don't think
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that the Eagles game is necessarily a moment I would say ended the Titans season.
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I mean, you keep in mind it might not have felt like it
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at the time. The Titans were seven and five even after that loss,
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and still had control and command of the AFC South. I will say the
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Eagles game has really when a lot of the bubbling issues started to boil over
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for the Titans, a lot of injuries. The injuries became a factor,
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especially in that secondary, with their ability to defend deep, with their ability
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to limit x X plays. You saw A J. Brown tear the Titans
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apart with two touchdowns in that game, give them a spanking on a celebration
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while Titans ownership is looking on. Meanwhile, Trail and Burkes gets hurt in
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that game, and the Titans had three wide receivers for the second half active
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and healthy. Those were Robert Woods, Nick Westbrook at Keene and CJ.
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Board, who really had played very limited offensive snaps in his NFL career.
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That was when things started to bubble over. John Robinson was fired later that
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week, and you started to see Amy Adams shrunk and ownership show how fed
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up they were with the approach that John had taken in the previous offseason and
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how it was resulting in losses and embarrassing losses on the field. Did it
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end their season? No, because you Bill had control of things. I
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would say Ryan Tannehill going down against the Los Angeles Chargers a few weeks later.
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Yeah, you go to seven and seven and lose your quarterback, really
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the only thing you had going for you offensively at that point in time.
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That was kind of the nail on the proverbial coffin. But the Eagles were
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they lost the previous game or to Cincinnati. It was a close game.
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You kind of threw your hands up, said, oh, well, good
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team beat you. Good good matchup. That Eagles game was the first time
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those of us covering the Titans and Titans fans kind of looked in the mirror
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and said, oh, this is starting to go downhill fast. Yeah.
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Yeah, it was kind of like the wheels started wobbling. I guess you
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would say, wasn't the nail on the coffin, but the wheels were wobbling.
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They were you know, you know you have you have some bolts and
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things like that coming off those wheels, as wheels are just very unsteady for
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sure. Um and again, having it happened in Philadelphia, just you know,
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with A J. Brown of course, and the history with the Titans.
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It was it was a very I hate to say it poetic, a
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sports poetic story, but that's essentially what it was. You know. Well,
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look, I mean I was reading some of your tweets today as we're
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moving along here, and I wanted to you said, Malik Willis looked pretty
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good today, and I wanted to get into this quarterback situation this coming season
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for the Titans. I think it's one of the more fascinating storylines in the
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NFL, quite frankly, and one of the more under the radar storylines because
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of the quarterback room. I mean, they drafted will Levis this year,
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they drafted Leek Willis last year, and they have a veteran Ryan Tannehill.
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And as an outsider, it was removed from Titans Nation. It seems like
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they're going to kind of just try to throw some stuff against the wall with
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these quarterbacks to see what sticks. That's what it seems like from the outside.
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And if so, it's an interesting strategy. For sure. You're in
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twenty twenty three, when you look at the quarterback situation throughout the NFL,
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are they doing that, and what really is going on with this quarterback situation
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heading into twenty twenty three year. I agree with you. I think it's
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one of the very very interesting, very underrated storylines because Ran Carthon, Mike
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Rabel and the Titans are trying to do something very unique. They are attempting
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to compete, win the AFC South and hopefully win playoff games while simultaneously attempting
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to develop and build their future quarterback that I think they're following a similar model
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to what we saw go perfectly perfect. It went perfect in Kansas City with
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Alex Smith, the veteran that you said, oh he's okay, he's fine.
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We'd like to get improvement from the position, but if the rosters got
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around him, you can win and develop the next guy. Will Levis is
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their future in their eyes. To me, Malik Willis is the lottery ticket
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because Malik Willis is John Robinson's guy, not Randon Carthon's guy. I don't
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think he's Mike Rabels guy. And so as you get, I mean,
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it's very fascinating because there's really been four in the last ten years, four
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times that an NFL team has invested a top three top three round draft pick
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on a quarterback to then draft another quarterback in the top three rounds of the
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year after them at Sean Mannion, Josh Rosen, Deshaun Keiser, and there's
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one other one on the list. But the point is the history is not
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great with that first right pick, right, I think it's Kobe Kessler with
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the Browns is actually the collage now that I think so. I mean those
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are guys that were traded, traded, traded, and stayed around as a
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backup. So what is Malik Where's Malik Willis's future? Maybe not with Tennessee
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if he doesn't take a big step forward. But it's very, very fascinating
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to see kind of Ryan Tannehill's the starter and these two guys aren't necessarily competing
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to be the backup. They're competing to be the future. Yea, which
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is going to be fun to play out, like fun to watch play out
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throughout the preseason and the regular season. It really is, because you know,
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I look at it as a gamble in a way, because you know,
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you're pinning two guys against each other. What could that potentially do to
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the locker room? What could potentially do to the even the quarterback room,
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if you want to niche it down even more, you know, I mean,
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these guys know that one of them is going to be the future and
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the other one is likely going to be out the door over the course of
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the next couple seasons. What does that do to the interpersonal dynamics and the
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relationships and then relationships, I think sam is what is really critical with teams
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anymore gaining success. It's something we've been talking about a lot on this podcast
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that the teams that are successful in this league and in sports in general,
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frankly, they have solid relationships. The players have solid relationships with their coaches,
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with various other staffs. Things just seem to me and work. And
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I look at this situation where you're talking about who's going to be the future
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quarterback. Things could potentially get messy here if they really could. Yeah.
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No, I think that's very very interesting. Dynamic of all of this is
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Malik Willis. You drafted him knowing he was a project. Then he gets
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thrown into the fire a little bit earlier than some of us would have expected
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or even liked, and you kind of throw your hands up and say,
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whoa, whoa, whoa. This guy's not ready. I look at it
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and say, what else did you expect? He came out of Liberty not
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playing under center. He was coming out of like an offense with Hugh Freeze
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that really didn't look anything like a pro style system. Do you give up
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on that guy after year one? If the answer is yes, are you
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doing right by him? If the answer no, well I invest a second
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round pick in will Lepis. It's very convoluted and the Titans are really going
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to have to pick a direction and stick to it by the end of this
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season. That The other interesting aspect of this, Jeff, is where what
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do the Titans do if you're five and seven bry Week twelve? Yeah,
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what do you do with Ryan Tannehill at that point? Who's the next guy
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up? Are you comfortable finishing this season not knowing what you have in either
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one of those other two guys in terms of regular season first team offense production
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in a real NFL game, I don't know, And I don't know what
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Mike Rabel's philosophy is on that. We're gonna have to find out. But
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it'll be fun to watch for sure. Absolutely. And you mentioned Ran Carthon
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earlier in Texas GM, and you know, what's he going to be doing
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about this situation, And if, like you said, if they do end
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up going five and seven, you know what kind of pressure is put on
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him in the front office and then other aspects of this offense. And recently
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ran he kind of he kind of put to rest publicly that they're not looking
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to trade Derrick Henry. Don't necessarily know if that's case. Front offices do
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say a lot of things that don't end up being the case from time to
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time. Look, as we know, Derrick Henry's been the NFL's best running
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back for the past five seasons, for sure, no doubt about that at
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all. But I do wonder, you know, if that means that the
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offense is still going to run through Derrick Henry for yet another season. And
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do you see his role potentially changing at all due to the various dynamics with
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quarterback position and just where he's at in his career and where this Titans offense
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is going to be going. What are your thoughts? Well, I think
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it has to. I think something that you learned last season is that teams
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are able to prepare for Derrick Henry. You saw it with the Eagles last
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season right Denver did the exact same thing. Teams came to the stadium knowing
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that twenty two was going to get the ball twenty five times, and when
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they knew that, they were able to contain him, and the Titans offense
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wasn't really able to do much else. I think Derrick Henry has been the
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league's best runner in the NFL FELL for the last five seasons. Has he
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been the league's best running back? I would put my hand up and say
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probably not, because the issue that Titans ran into Derrick Henry last year is
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he couldn't be on the field for third down. He's not a great pass
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blocker. He's essentially non existent in the passing game in terms of actual route
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running. His receiving numbers ticked up in production last year. A lot of
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that was on screens and balls designed to go to him, not really improvisation.
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And what you're going to see the Titans starting to do this year,
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I think is switch their offense to incorporate their running backs as more of an
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offensive pass catching weapon. That's what they liked so much in Taj Spears,
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the Tulane running back they drafted in the third round. I think he'll kind
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of fall into a similar role to Dontrelle Hilliard did before he went down last
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season. Even Derek you've seen starting to get reps out wide and in the
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passing game in early OTAs mini camp. The Titans are going to want to
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evolve the running back positions. So yes, their offense is still defined and
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centered around Derek Henry, But what that looks like in twenty twenty three I
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think looks a lot different under new offensive coordinator Tim Kelly, because it has
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to. If you're one dimensional again, you're going to get beats. We
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saw that last season. Yeah, it's really going to be interesting to see
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what happens with this offense. Because as we move over to the defense here,
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I wanted to get your thoughts on what's going to be happening with this
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unit too, because I think it's fair to say that the Titans defense is
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undeniably their best chance of really being competitive. I would say here in the
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twenty twenty three season as we're looking at looking on to it, I mean,
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last year they allowed fifteen point one points per game from Week three to
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Week ten, So I'm wondering, Sam, you know, how do you
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characterize this defense this coming season, their importance and what they can possibly do
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to take that pressure off the offense. That's kind of in some ways gonna
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be trying to find an identity. Well, I think the biggest key for
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this defense is going to be getting the production out of the front four that
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you know they're capable of giving you. It's really really a good group up
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front. Jeffrey Simmons just got his big contract and extension. He's up there
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with the Nico Autry Rashad Weaver had five and a half sacks last season,
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and he might be third or fourth on the depth chart off the edge.
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Harold Landry's returning from an acl surgery after a twelve and a half sack season.
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I've loved the energy from arden Key upfront. Even Tier Tart, an
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underrated run stopper that's looking to add a pass rushing element to his game as
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well, just signed his second round tenders. So that group as a whole
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I think can be very, very productive. They fought through some injuries last
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year with Bud Dupree, with Jeffrey Simmons dealing with an ankle for a lot
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of the season, not as productive as he would have liked to be.
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If they can get after the quarterback, this defense can be really good.
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Now beyond a group, I do think the defense is solid, but I
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think there's some more question marks. You have limited depth at corner, you
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have limited depth and newcomers at inside linebacker. I think the starters are great.
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Beyond that, I'm not sure, but it all starts with that front
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group. That that front four. If they're getting after the passer, the
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Titans these going to force turnovers and really rek havoc on opposing offenses. If
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they're not like last season, you're gonna see games like Jalen Hurtz throwing for
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four hundred plus yards against the Titans defense, They're gonna get beat deep often.
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Again, folks talking to Sam Falin from a to z sports dot com
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follow on Twitter is a great great follow at Sam Underscore Falin pH l e
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N absolutely again a great great follow, and I wanted to get into some
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strengths and weaknesses of this Titans team here on our Opposition Territory podcast, Sam,
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we'd love to ask our guests about the strengths and weaknesses heading into this
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particular NFL season here coming up and around the corner. Biggest strength of this
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Titans team. What do you think that is? And you know what should
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we be on the lookout for as twenty twenty three is right around the corner.
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Yeah, it's not really a position group for me as much as it
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is a common characteristic or common trait that I think a lot of these Titans
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have in common, which is their versatility. Rand Carthon and Mike Vrabel really
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really emphasize this offseason in free agency in the players they were looking to get
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rid of, players they were looking to bring in in the draft as well,
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And I kind of see that as a common theme throughout a lot of
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the Titans defense. They brought in Sean Murphy bunting to the defense, has
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ability to go inside and outside. Elijah Mulbin, a nickel, has been
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a nickel for his first two seasons in the league. They've been working him
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back at safety. Roger McCreery can do both. Aziz Al Schier has some
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flexibility and versatility. And then their offensive line. Peter Schrodsky, their first
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round pick, a Northwestern right now is playing left guard. They feel really
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good about his ability to play left tackle. That's what he did for the
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Wildcats in college, but he can do both. Same thing with Daniel Brunskill,
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a veteran from the San Francisco forty nine ers that ran knew Well signed
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brought over. He slotted at right guard, but if things go awry,
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Daniel Brunskill can play any one of the five positions on the Titans offensive line.
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So they've tried to kind of get some veteran pieces that have a little
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bit of versatility to their game to help account for some of the lacking depth
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that they have on the roster. Because if you can fill in with another
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veteran who has the ability to just switch positions to move over one spot,
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it prevents you from having a scenario like they did last season where you are
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on the offensive line starting a left tackle that is no business being on an
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NFL field. Absolutely, it reminds me quite frankly. I don't mean to
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like bring things back like to the Eagles or anything like that, because,
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believe me, this is a team that you know us have some flaws,
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certainly, but when it comes to the Eagles offensive line, when it comes
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to their offensive line coach Jeff Stoutlin, the versatility that is so important to
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this Eagle's offensive line. It reminds me what's happening down down in Tennessee and
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down in Nashville, because, like, you see that versatility, and that's
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really what's happening with the offensive line in general, I think in the NFL.
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And I don't necessarily want to say the Eagles are responsible, but it
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is. We are seeing success throughout the league where versatile, Uh guards can
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you know what, if they have to play the center position, they can
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do that. Guards that may have to just come out and play the right
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tackle position, they may have to do that. And and that versatility is
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so important in today's NFL, especially on the offensive line. The Titans are
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getting it done, no for sure. And you know, this is what
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Mike Vrabel said after the draft in his press conference about just about every draft
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pick that Titans made. Why did they like Taj Spears because he can run,
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because he can catch, because he can run right outs. Why did
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they like Cincinnati tight end Josh Wiley because he's a pass catching tight end that
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can line up at fullback if you need him to. Like, this is
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a theme that they've done here with their free agents, and I've really been
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a fan of it. Like, this is an approach that's not necessarily pretty.
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Fans don't necessarily see this. It doesn't jump out on a roster or
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a depth chart to you. But it's something that shows up in week twelve,
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thirteen, and fourteen, and something they haven't had last year and the
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years prior when injuries have really ruined the Titans season. You need versatility and
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depth in order to overcome injuries. So I think they're trying to circumvent that.
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And keep in mind, Ran was a big, you know, scouter.
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He was pro director of scouting, pro personnel, player personnel with San
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Francisco. And this is all about what the Niners do. They go all
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out and get places like Deebo Samuel and Christian McCaffrey and you know Telennoah who
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Fung Guh, players that have versatile skill sets in a given offense or defense.
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It's it's going to be interesting to see how this versatility really takes shape
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during the course of this season for the Titans. But on the flip side
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of things, what about the weakness. What is the biggest weakness on this
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Titans team heading into this season. Well, right now, it has to
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be the wide receiver room, and I hate to like it feels like I'm
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beating a dead horse with this narrative over and over again. But it's the
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truth. Until the Titans signed, until they signed DeAndre Hopkins, or they
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make another move to bring in a veteran wide receiver. I am baffled by
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their lack of movement at the position. We saw Mike Rabel last season say,
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well, who the f would we throw the ball to? I asked
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Mike Vrabel, Hey, teams are planning on stopping Derrick Henry. Yeah,
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do you think you need to switch your identity? And he said, well,
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what other identity would you like me to go with? He has to
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cater to his personnel. We've seen it over and over and over again.
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And yeah, you came into the offseason, he didn't draft a wide receiver
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until the seventh round. You're only wide receiver. Yeah, yeah, Your
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only free agent edition is Chris Moore from the Houston Texans, who then signed
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Robert Woods. He's out the door. You haven't gotten any better at the
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position. You could argue that they've gotten worse. Mike Vrabel, the head
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coach who played defense, has more career, has more career receiving touchdowns than
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all of the times wide receivers combined. That's how bad this group is right
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now. And I love Traylan Burts. I think Traylan Burts is going to
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have a monster season in twenty twenty three, but the depth beyond him is
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just nonexistent at the at the spot, and I don't know what they're going
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to do. Ryan Tannehill, I'm praying for him. The guy needs some
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help and he doesn't have it right now. Right right, you know,
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if after they traded AJ Brown to the Philadelphia Eagles, I mean the thing
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that the things that we were talking about as as Eagles fans were, Okay,
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the Tennessee Titans, they got a plan of action. They got a
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plan in their back pocket with regard to the wide receiver. They're gonna let
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a talent like a J. Brown leave, Okay, they have a plan
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of action here for the future. And it's mind boggling here in mid June
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twenty twenty three, there's no plan of action. Really, it's really mind
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boggling for a team that needs to really find that offensive identity, especially in
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a league that is very pass happy and pass heavy. The fact that they
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don't have that is really it's really quite astonishing. Yeah, and you saw
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the Titans offense at its best. Yes, it was led by Derrick Henry.
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Yes, he was still your bell cow that she gave the ball to
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twenty five thirty times a game. The difference is that you had an AJ
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Brown and you had a Corey Davis who were able to stretch the field for
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you. And that was the Titans at their best. And it really is
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mind boggling, is the right word. That you can watch that groups succeed
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how they did and then say, nah, the position groups just not that
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important, right, I don't get that, And that seems to be what
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they've done. Uh, perhaps DeAndre Hopkins will find his way to Music City
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and all of this will be for naught to end, the group will be
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just fine with DEDI hop and trailing Burkes in twenty three. Until that happens,
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I will be, uh, you know, singing the woes of the
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wide receiver room ad nauseum, and I will not will not stop. I
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don't care if I'm beating a dead horse. Like you said, It's it's
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a truth. It's a truth. It is the absolute truth for sure.
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Well, Sam to uh. End things here. One last topic and question
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wanted to get into with you. Uh. I mean, look, Titans
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have won the AFC South Division twice over the past three years, but now
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the Jaguars really appear to be the team to beat in the division. They
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seem to be in the driver's seat, having that momentum. Uh after after
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after getting a playoff win. You know, they they may have even gotten
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better during this offseason. It's argue, you can argue. So what are
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your thoughts about how this division looks really heading into this season? Possibly Jaguars
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at the top. Could the Titans actually compete here in the division? What
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are your thoughts? I do think they'll compete in the division. I think
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their schedule is more favorable this season. You don't have to run through Buffalo,
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Kansas City, Philadelphia, Dallas, all within the Cincinnati, all within
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the same gauntlet of a schedule that Tennessee had last season. I think that
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on its own will make the Titans more competitive. It's also important to remember,
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right, you're one strip sack fumble by Josh Dobbs away from winning the
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AFC South last year. Yea, even with the number of injuries and frankly
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bad roster that they had. I think Mike Vrabel is still the best coach
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in this division and he will maintain a level of competitiveness with his roster.
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Do they win it, I don't know, and I think what they do
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from here until September or ninth through whenever kickoff is will really be the determining
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factor in terms of what talent they add and how they're able to adapt and
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add multiple dimensions to their offense. I do think this division will be fun,
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though, and you could argue one of the more fun, maybe the
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most fun division to watch in football. Not because you'll have super playoff teams
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like teams that are competing for the Super Bowl, but you're gonna have some
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young quarterbacks that it's going to be hard to take your eyes away from.
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Bright's young CJ. Stroud, Trevor Lawrence, and potentially Will Levis all playing
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in the same division in the AFC South. That's some entertaining football right there.
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The future of this division looks bright, at least at the QB position,
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and for all of these fan bases, I think what we're watching for
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is what happens under center. The Texans don't care about their division the Colts
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don't care about their division. The Titans fans could even get by saying we're
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not gonna win the division this year. If it means Will Lovice looks really
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good and looks like the answer at QB moving forward. Yeah, So it's
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all about the quarterback position in the AFC South and that's gonna make for some
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fun games. It's gonna it's gonna make for fun games, fun division.
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A lot of great storylines coming out of this division for sure. And again,
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folks, Sam Fallon from A to Z sports dot Com at Sam Underscore
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Failin Sam, Man, it was great talking to you. I'd love to
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have you on the podcast again at some point in the future. It's getting
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some NFL talk, maybe some AFC South talk. We'd love to have you
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back on my Man anytime. Man. I appreciated it, seriously, Folks,
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it is gonna be a fun division to watch if you are an NFL
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football fan and you love various storylines throughout the year. The quarterback situation in
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the AFC South, that's gonna be really interesting, really really fun to follow,
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man, especially when it comes to these, uh, these rookie quarterbacks
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that we are gonna see on the field and likely see on the field early
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on this season. It's gonna be fascinating for sure. That's gonna do it
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