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- 0:00It's still welcome. Everybody. Welcome to this week's edition as Still Real does
- 0:20show episode number seven and fifty one for July fourth, twenty twenty four.
- 0:25This is your aw and New Japan Forbid Indoor Recap and Review and Wily Money
- 0:30to Bank and nx WA Preview and Predictions edition of s RT You I am
- 0:37one after the show, I am Joe pack joined every single week my host,
- 0:41going only, Doctor Trey Franklin, Doctor Trey. Happy fourth of July,
- 0:45my friend, Happy fourth of July, my friend. I hope,
- 0:48uh, you know, being a new dad, I hope all your fingers
- 0:50stay intact. I hope that for everybody. That's my wish for everybody this
- 0:54Happy fourth is celebrate freedom Jesus. I guess if that's your thing, and
- 1:00just make sure all your fingers stay in tagged. I literally came across the
- 1:03store yesterday that said we were closing early on the fourth to allow our employees
- 1:10to time with their families and to worship. And I didn't know what people
- 1:14worship on the fourth of July, so I'm a little confused by that sign
- 1:18I saw in a store America. Huh, that's what we worship. My
- 1:23initials are JP, not JPP. So so far so good, fingers are
- 1:27intact, hopefully you know that's still you know, not too soon that joke.
- 1:33That's a deep cut joke. You really have to be a fan of
- 1:37the NFL to get the JPP reference there. Well, see if anybody got
- 1:42it. I know there's a lot of wrestling fans, a lot of folks
- 1:45overseas that enjoy European football. I highly doubt there's a percentage of this podcast
- 1:52that was like, what the hell is he talking about? Yeah? What
- 1:53what does he mean there? So nonetheless, happy fourth of July for those
- 1:57here in America. We are recording this the morning of July fourth, before
- 2:02we kick off all of our fest festivities. Go out to barbecues. No
- 2:06firework show for me, because I got a little one now. I don't
- 2:08want to lose his hearing. I would rather that hip hop music does that.
- 2:13Once he starts listening to, you know, is beat by dre headphones
- 2:15that he'll get I don't know, like two three years old, because that's
- 2:17what kids are doing nowadays. So lots of wrestling to DISCUSSI actually something I
- 2:23did not share with Doctor Trey pre show. I know, I promoted on
- 2:27last week's podcast that we were going to look at our first half of the
- 2:30year awards. This is such a fully loaded show that I want to give
- 2:35it ample time. So we're actually going to do that in two weeks,
- 2:38which will take us to July eighteenth. Right now, there's just so many
- 2:42pay per views and p l's going on with Forbidden Door and running the Bank
- 2:46heat Wave that we're going to focus on that this week and of course next
- 2:50week, and then in two weeks time again we'll look at the first half
- 2:53of the year for twenty twenty four, which is mind boggling to think,
- 2:57and our typical awards that we hand out the leading candidates right now, So
- 3:00a little programming note on this week's edition of the podcast, So let's get
- 3:05right into it. Doctor Trey aw Knew Japan for bid into our twenty twenty
- 3:08four recap and review. This came to us this past Sunday from the UBS
- 3:13Arena in Long Island, New York. The first match on the pre show
- 3:15was Kyle Fret Fletcher defeating Sirpentco. I'm not sure what to say about this
- 3:21one. It was a three minute match. I really liked the upside of
- 3:23Kyle Fletcher and liked he got a spotlight during all of the will Osprey stuff
- 3:28over the weekend and on Dynamite this past Wednesday, we were talking off air
- 3:32about Kyle Fletcher oddly enough, and he got the victory over Sir Pettico in
- 3:37three minutes. Yeah, and you had to kind of be a really hardcore
- 3:39aw fan to realize he was no longer the Ring of Honor Telvision Champion as
- 3:44well, like that, Oh, I had no idea until they said it.
- 3:46Yeah, and I was like, oh, that's right, that he
- 3:49lost it, like on a non televised event. I believe he lost it
- 3:53at CMLL, then I believe two nights before Yeah, and that totally threw
- 3:57me off and I'm like, wait, didn't he have a belt or something?
- 4:00And then as I had to read it, I'm like, oh,
- 4:00he lost it and they didn't really even talk about it. So maybe that's
- 4:04why he's kind of getting the rub now because he doesn't have it hanging over.
- 4:09But yeah, for a three minute match. Like, I'm a big
- 4:12fan of Kyle Fletcher. I think he's got a lot of potential. Sir
- 4:15Pensico is just that, you know, I feel bad for the guy.
- 4:18I don't think he's want to match in like two years, and his tag
- 4:21team partner became a butler for crying out loud, So not a whole lot
- 4:26for him to do right now, So not a great match. It's just
- 4:30kind of way to showcase Kyle Fletcher considering the four day period they had planned
- 4:33for him, so a good way for him to start for the show.
- 4:36At least. Next match year is King's of the Black Throne defeating Tomo heir
- 4:41Is She and Kyle O'Riley, Roger Strong and Gabe Kid and Private Party in
- 4:45a four way tag team match. We did not predict this one. We
- 4:47also did not predict Kyle Fletcher and Serpentaco. My notes from this one is,
- 4:51dear professional wrestling companies, please do something with your tag team divisions.
- 4:58Also, I feel like we are on the ver of Gabe Kid being a
- 5:00breakout star, a big star in professional wrestling. Everything about him screams top
- 5:05level talent to me. He is an exciting young talent that I really have
- 5:09enjoyed watching on AW television last couple of weeks. I've read about him,
- 5:13seen his stuff from New Japan. I'm a fan of his Doctor Trey.
- 5:16Your thoughts on the four way tag team match, Yeah, just like when
- 5:20you look at it, you're going, man, these these guys, you
- 5:23know, all these tag teams can kind of go, and they're on the
- 5:25pre show in a four way, which means they basically had nothing for anybody
- 5:28to do, so let's throw them all on a match. You know,
- 5:31House of Black. Those guys are always fantastic. I like Gabe Kid because
- 5:34at first, when I heard his name, I thought Axiom had affected somehow
- 5:38and added three letters to a kid to make him gave kid. But no,
- 5:43this guy's a little a little bit bigger and has a little more potential
- 5:46than a kids. So yeah, it's just kind of a fun little throwaway
- 5:50match for AW, which just makes me also go, crap, this is
- 5:55gonna be a five hour pay per view, isn't it. So the next
- 5:59match here, well, Willow Nightingale and Tom Nakano defeat Chris stat Lander,
- 6:02Momo Wanton Abby. We both had Willow and Nakano and this one Willow and
- 6:06stant Lander's feud has been a really bright spot, really big bride spot in
- 6:11the AW women's division and a great blueprint for how a feud and build to
- 6:15a match should go. They had their match on Wednesday's Dynamite. Two things
- 6:18from that one. If you have not gone out of your go out of
- 6:21your way. If you've not seen yet, Willow Nightingale's promo heading into that
- 6:25match was to me amazing. I loved it. It was Dusty Rhodes type
- 6:32vibes for me, a working man, son of a plumber type vibes to
- 6:38it. I love that promo, Go out of your way and again see
- 6:41it. The match itself with Chris stat Lander and the Women's Owen Heart Cup
- 6:46tournament was a little bit lacklustered, a little bit short on time, but
- 6:50I've really enjoyed this feud doctor Tray between Willow and christat Landler. Yeah,
- 6:56I've enjoyed the feud as well. I actually kind of liked this match too,
- 6:59because it's like, these two women have a few going on, and
- 7:01there's two other random Japanese superstars thrown into the matches. You're kind of like,
- 7:06I almost felt bad for the two other women because they really had no
- 7:10bill or storyline in this match, But the tag matches that wasn't bad.
- 7:13The dynam of the promo and dynam I was really well done. The matches
- 7:16of Your Right Well, I thought was lackluster. But and I really hate
- 7:20Willow's not a small girl. And I really hate when they have bigger babyfaces
- 7:25win with a roll up because it doesn't really settle anything. So obviously to
- 7:30me, that means the few is gonna continue. This is a way for
- 7:32Willow to move on in the tournament. But yeah, for a match you've
- 7:35been kind of building into, building up too to have the baby face win
- 7:39with a roll up and she's as big as or if not bigger than her
- 7:43opponent. I really hate those things. But for this pay re view,
- 7:46a really fun women's tag match that basically was just like, we're gonna put
- 7:53we need two Japanese people in this matches because it's aw New Japan for Bendorra.
- 7:57We'll go with Tom and Watanabe and we'll put them there with christ and
- 8:01Willow and just let them go at it. So there you're next match here
- 8:05is Mariah May defeating Soriah in a Women's Own Hard Cup tournament first round match.
- 8:09I had Mariah May dout tradet soria I think Maria May is my favorite
- 8:13to win the Women's Own Heart Cup tournament, as an all in match with
- 8:16timeless Stony Storm would be compelling. There is also obviously a strong case that
- 8:20Willow Nightingale, following her win with Chris stat Lander, would be a very
- 8:22compelling match against timeless Toney Storm at all in. Soria's run in AW has
- 8:28been pretty anti climatic for an all time great. And yeah, she takes
- 8:31a loss here in a match in less than ten minutes. I appreciate to
- 8:35Miriam a doctor Trey. Yeah, and that's kind of why, like I
- 8:37had picked a right because I was like, you know, this is one
- 8:39of the legends of women's wrestling in a way, I mean, not Mount
- 8:45Rushmore legend, but you know, people know Paige slash Soria. It just
- 8:50is. It's unfortunately, like you look at you go may she the outcast.
- 8:54Had a good little run. She's a former AW Women's Champions, she
- 8:58just didn't have a long run with it. But for the last year she's
- 9:01just been kind of stuck in the middle, which kind of what happens to
- 9:05a lot of these WWE people. When they come over, they get a
- 9:07nice little push and then they're just in the middle for the rest of their
- 9:13time there, So unfortunate Sarriah for Sobria, but good for Mariah May because
- 9:16now she has that on a resume that she beats Sria, which is a
- 9:20resume builder, which gives her credibility heading in if that's the route they go
- 9:24with heading into all In, if they do Perotoni Storm, she has that
- 9:28on the resume. Next match, here's a Lucha Bros. And Mystico defeating
- 9:31Los Ignorables de Hippon. We had both had Luca Brothers in Mystico. I
- 9:37would have liked to have seen lij get the victory in this one, but
- 9:41it would have been a weird look. After Jericho attacked Mystico during a CMLL
- 9:45show on the Friday before four been in Door to help promote an assumed future
- 9:48match. I would have liked to see some carry over there on Wednesday's Dynamite
- 9:52as well, but obviously Jericho's involved and had a really good angle with Joe
- 9:56Hook and Shabbata on Wednesdays Dynamite Dot. Share your thoughts on this one as
- 10:01a Lucha Brothers and Mystico got the victory. Yeah, I mean this is
- 10:05kind of our rule for this show was went in doubt picked the non New
- 10:09Japan people to win the match. I like you thought, Eli JH,
- 10:13you're gonna win here, because it would have made sense because if you have
- 10:16Mystico selling an injury, then it's almost a three on two handicap match in
- 10:20a sense if one guy's not one hundred percent. But they didn't go that
- 10:24route, So fun Lucas style six man tag. I thought it was pretty
- 10:30entertaining for matches that I typically don't like, so I enjoyed it. I
- 10:35thought it was a good solid six man tag for what's placeholder spot on the
- 10:39card. And then finally the main card here as MJF opened up to the
- 10:43show by defeating Hetch and Sara. We both had MJF. These are notes
- 10:48that I wrote pre Dynamite here, so this is pretty interesting. This is
- 10:52why I want to read them, and then we'll talk a little bit about
- 10:54what happened at Dynamite as well once we put this match to rest. So
- 10:58Hetch and Sarah to me, has been the most impressive CML wrestler I've seen
- 11:01on aw television, and it shows that they put him in this match.
- 11:05I really want to see MJF ramp up heading into aw all in and that
- 11:09is what I expect will happen. MJF is just kind of waiting in water
- 11:13right now. Again, these were notes that I wrote pre Dynamite. We'll
- 11:16get to that in just a second. But Doctor Trey MGFF defeating Hetchet Sarow,
- 11:20Yeah, I'm with you. Like Hetchees Sarah is about the only person
- 11:22who actually from CMLL that I read that I can actually go, oh,
- 11:26that's Hetches Sarah, Like I actually know who that is. The rest of
- 11:28the roster for the most part, I'm like, ummm, his name is
- 11:31a DC villain or a Marvel villain. I can't remember. That's how I
- 11:35remember most of these guys. But I was like, going to MJF.
- 11:39It feels like he came back. They had the blow off Adam Cole out
- 11:41of nowhere for no reason, and then he's been treading with water ever since.
- 11:46Uh. That was my note pre dynamite as well. But overall I
- 11:50thought it was a solid match because it's still it shows MJF, you know,
- 11:54still being a top guy, but also still allowed Hetching Saro some offense
- 11:58and a little bit of shine to keep him looking strong. If they decide
- 12:01to steal him from CTMLL or use him in a different way. So solid
- 12:07opener, but maybe not the match I would have had opened the show.
- 12:11So I kind of like matches have a little bit more importance than this one.
- 12:15This one still felt kind of like a throwaway match in a sense.
- 12:18So let's talk about what happened at Dynamite. You have the Danny Garcia will
- 12:20Osprey match for the AW International Championship. MJFF in the corner of Danny Garcia
- 12:26will Osprey gets the victory after Garcia refused to use the Dynamite diamond ring was
- 12:31distracted him blade one two three. MJFF gets in the ring, kicks him
- 12:35in the nuts, beats the crap out of them, and I guess in
- 12:39a way turns heel. It was I think almost like fifteen minutes overrun on
- 12:46Dynamite this past Wednesday. And I'll get this out of the way now as
- 12:50well. It was a very strong episode of AW Dynamite, a really enjoyable
- 12:54episode. Good little stretch here for AW creatively and end ring wise that I'm
- 12:58in joining and welcome to the party AW here on the short term, long
- 13:03time coming. We've been waiting very patiently. So I was very excited to
- 13:07see that MJF went back to MGF mode. I think it's very safe to
- 13:13say that MGF is most successful when he is MGF twenty nineteen to mid twenty
- 13:20twenty three, the Babyface MJF just really wasn't clicking getting over getting the same
- 13:26kind of feel and the vibe was from us on the podcast that it could
- 13:31be a stone cold Steve Austin like type run for him. He never really
- 13:35captured in that because he kind of leaned into too much of what they were
- 13:39saying on the Internet's a little bit emo in a way there on the Babyface
- 13:43run and a little bit too corny, which was something I never thought I
- 13:46would say about MGF. So him really getting a good, strong emotion and
- 13:50beat down of Danny Garcia to close Dynamite a turn if you will, was
- 13:56really good getting into it with a crowd. It was a really really strong
- 14:01ending, And something that I was really excited about is eventually will Ospray came
- 14:05out to get the save. I guess if there's a one drawback there,
- 14:07it's like, where the hell was will Ospray that entire time? Like was
- 14:11he just like I don't know icing his feet, Like what was he doing
- 14:13that that he didn't get out there right away? So really really strong,
- 14:18fun in compelling, interesting segment to close down to my doctor Trainer. Was
- 14:22refreshing to see MGF go back to his roots. Yeah, my thing was
- 14:28the offspray line. I thought was really good. I just figured will Osprey
- 14:33got lost in the back. I had some of those back areas when they
- 14:35started curtaining things off and partitioning things off can get kind of confusing, and
- 14:39he's not. You know, it's probably his first time in that building,
- 14:41so maybe he got lost. He got back to the curtain, took a
- 14:45left, we should take it a right, got lost and they had to
- 14:46make a big loop to get back out to make the same I'm excited for
- 14:52MJF as a heel. It just leads me questions because he just came back
- 14:58a couple like what six weeks ago, six weeks eight weeks ago, had
- 15:03the big blowoff with you know, Adam Cole, and then now they're kind
- 15:07of on the same ledger, so to speak. They're both heels now again.
- 15:13So MJF good when he has people around him. Does that mean he
- 15:16starts getting people around him as well. And then I also was like,
- 15:20is Danny Garcia a big enough character for him to turn heel on to really
- 15:26get people to care. So I'm a little worried to you because I think
- 15:30he'll still get baby face pops at times as this now full fledged heel again,
- 15:35So curious to see where it goes by mc scit because you're absolutely right,
- 15:37MGF is better as a heel than he is a babyface, and this
- 15:41is the best route because if you look at potential challenge or potential matchups after
- 15:46Garcia, well will Ospray's now a full fledged baby face and you have swerved
- 15:50Strickland and either of those matchups down the road are money making matchups. For
- 15:56MJF is just a question of is this a big enough babyface for him to
- 16:00turn on to really get the crowd to hate him. Yeah, no,
- 16:03it was. It'll be interesting to follow up Saturday's collision. He's got to
- 16:07open up the show. We'll see how that goes. But I feel like
- 16:11short term was really really strong and I'm happy to see MGF back in that
- 16:15role. Next match here is the Elite defeating Scissa Ace the Acclaim in Hiroshi
- 16:21ton of Hashey and a trios match. We both have the Elite. The
- 16:23hype video heading into this match with him blurting out Kenny and make his face
- 16:26was hilarious and some of the funny stuff that this version of the New Elite
- 16:30has done. Okada is super over and despite what some people say online,
- 16:36I actually really like this version of him where he's showing his personality off a
- 16:38little more. Max Caster's rap before the match may have been his best one
- 16:44I've ever seen in aw And I wonder if the planets for both the Acclaim
- 16:48versus the Young Bucks and Ocada versus a ton of Hashi for each of their
- 16:51titles at Wembley at all in next month, so the Elite at the victory
- 16:55Doctor treover Scissa as Yeah, I like for some reason, I weird thing
- 17:00where it's like I watched this version of Akada is like he's like the million
- 17:03dollar Japanese man. Like it's just it's so it's it's good. It's something
- 17:08that you really never saw him do in New Japan, so it's it's kind
- 17:11of a new take on it, which it makes a ton of sense.
- 17:15His English is not great, so he has the Bucks around him and potentially
- 17:18other people as well. Jack Perry's there as well, so it's good for
- 17:22him, it's good for the Bucks. Gives them a little bit of They
- 17:26don't have the muscle Guy and their faction, but if you have one of
- 17:30the best wrestlers in the world on your side, it makes a lot of
- 17:32sense as well. And I really enjoyed Scissorre's what it was. Tanahashi looks
- 17:38so out of place, but he was having fun with it. So a
- 17:41fun trios match and like or and like you said, like it sets up
- 17:45for all In if you get Okata and tana Hashi at aw all In,
- 17:49Like how out of water and weird and awesome? Is that all rolled up
- 17:52into one? Yeah, no, I'm I'm here for it, and I
- 17:56think that would be a lot of fun. Again, one of my favorite
- 17:59moments attending into this feud this match was the Wednesday Dynamite promo where like Tadahashi
- 18:07said something that he was the Cissarees and Okada was laughing in the ring like
- 18:11bro character. Yeah, it was just a lot. There was a lot
- 18:15of fun stuff surrounding this entire match, and then the match itself was pretty
- 18:18good. Next match year is Brian Danielson defeating Shingo Takagi in the Men's Own
- 18:22Heart Cup tournament first round match. We both had Danielson getting the victory.
- 18:26Uh, this is the type of match that you would expect from Danielson and
- 18:29Shingo, which is really really good. I enjoyed the last part of this
- 18:32match, and I thought Danielson helped get Shingo over with any audiences that may
- 18:36not be accustomed with a new with a great new japan pro wrestler in Shingo
- 18:38Takagi. Danielson gets the victory and advances Dotch Trey and he also defeated Pac
- 18:42on Wednesday's Dynamite, so now he is in the finals of the Men's Own
- 18:47Heart Cup Tournament finals anyway, so I really enjoyed this matchup. It's one
- 18:55of the things I watches the matchinem going. I Danielson is getting Shingo over
- 19:00because as a sign of respect. But does it really matter if you don't
- 19:03use shingo again? Does it matter getting somebody over if they're not going to
- 19:07be around very much? Does it really help? But it made for a
- 19:11compelling match. It's just that's on those matches where you look at when Brian
- 19:15has to put this match together to show appreciation for somebody he admires, which
- 19:19is a really strong, good professional wrestling matchup. I actually enjoyed the match
- 19:25he had with Pak on Dynamite a little bit more just because I have more
- 19:27investment in Pak than I do Shingo. But once again Brian has in the
- 19:33finals. Is good for everybody because he's still one of the best wrestlers in
- 19:38the world and enjoy to see any time he gets in the ring and he's
- 19:41one hundred percent healthy or at least appears to be one hundred percent healthy.
- 19:45Next match is time with Tony Storm defeating Mina Shurikawa to retain the AW Women's
- 19:48World Championship by Tony Doctor Trey and Mina. Mina Sharrikawa is a really fun
- 19:53in ring watch to seem ployees to be a big star someday soon. I
- 19:56would love to see Tony and Mina run it back in someday. Doug tray
- 20:00your thoughts on this one as Timeless retains. Yeah, this was me trying
- 20:06to go out of the box and catch up to Jeff by seeing the Mariah
- 20:08May match end. This match but yeah, you know, I saw Eric
- 20:12Bischoff crap all of this match, and I thought it was actually pretty.
- 20:15I thought it was decent. Tony's character work is still kind of ahead of
- 20:19her in ring work because there's a couple of spots in there where you're kind
- 20:22of like time he's let it off. But when you have somebody from the
- 20:26UK wrestling somebody from Japan and they've never wrestled before, that kind of happens.
- 20:30But I like the character work of both ladies and thought this was a
- 20:33good compelling matchup, and then the weird love triangles good good storyline as well.
- 20:37So I actually really enjoyed this. I don't know what I mean.
- 20:41Eric was too cop in a steak. I guess I really enjoyed it,
- 20:44and I was eating while I watched it, So I think I would multitask
- 20:49a little bitter than Eric Bishoff of this case. Sometimes Bischoff is just a
- 20:52little too rough on aw and goes beyond where it's like, okay, yeah,
- 20:56no, I can understand that point, and I did not understand point
- 21:00in this match. Next met Year is Zach Saber Junior defeating Orange Cassie dout
- 21:03Tray, and I both hat Orange Cassie to get win. ZSJ is so
- 21:07much fun to watch. The finishing submission move was a thing of beauty and
- 21:10something I have never seen before, which is typical with ZSJ. Orange Casside
- 21:15held his own as a technical wrestling master in this one as well. ZFJ
- 21:18gets the victory over Orange Cassidy. Yeah, this is one of those ones
- 21:22where we went, Okay, New Japan guy wins, which is good for
- 21:25New Japan, but what does that do for Orange Cassidy, Like it's confusing
- 21:29sometimes of booking on some of these matchups, Like this is like a semi
- 21:33dream match for the new generation of wrestling fans, and I thought it was
- 21:37a really enjoyable match. It wasn't the typical Orange Cassiding match. He had
- 21:41to go hole for hole with CSJ, which is really hard to do because
- 21:44he may be the smoothest wrestler I have ever seen. The way he cans
- 21:49string stuff together and change stuff together is just incredible. But just a really
- 21:55really solid matchup. Once again. CSJ, though, gets a win over
- 21:59a top aw guy and we may not see ZESJ game for six months a
- 22:03year, so what's the point in the booking of this match. If that's
- 22:07the case, so just a little confused by it. But maybe New Japan
- 22:11said, hey, guys, we got to get a couple of our guys
- 22:14over on this car, so just pick a couple of guys you like it.
- 22:17Those guys have to get wins. So I'm just a little confused by
- 22:19the booking of it. But as a match itself, just looking at it
- 22:23and watching it really really enjoyable. My theory on it is if a New
- 22:27Japan guy Goats gets over, that means Tony Kahan wants to eventually sign them.
- 22:33Yes, so that makes a lot of sense. Yeah, I mean
- 22:34I would want to sign zesj as well, So not a surprise there.
- 22:40Next match, you or Samo, Joe Hook and Kassi or Schabada defeating Christ
- 22:42Jericho, Big Bill and Jeff Cobb in a trios match, I had Joe
- 22:45Hook and Shabata, Dot Trea, Jericho, Bill and Cobb. It's a
- 22:48pretty big deal for Hook to get the pin on Jericho by using his own
- 22:52finishing move. The trios of Joe, Hook and Shabbada is a lot of
- 22:56fun and I hope we see them get to get into the trio's title picture.
- 22:59Soon enough. There was a big angle on Wednesday's Dynamite where Jericho,
- 23:03Big Bill and Brian Keith took out all three members of Joe, Hook and
- 23:08Shabbata. Hook got a massive beat down, Taz was removed from the building,
- 23:14which was a funny little segment. It was nice to see Jericho,
- 23:18Bill and Brian Keith get a little bit more violent with their characters because they
- 23:23were kind of borderline like a little bit too weak the way they were being
- 23:29built there. So good angle, fun match at fourbidden Door dotch tray your
- 23:33thoughts, and we saw the Wizard come back. We saw the fireball,
- 23:37so that was pretty cool too. I love that the first time Jackier Folebaugh
- 23:41was just yelling at I'm a wizard. I'm a Wizard. I thought was
- 23:44great. So it's good to see the Wizard come back a little bit.
- 23:47But yeah, the when I watched the match live and saw Hook and Joe
- 23:52and Shabbati at the wind, I was look confused because I'm like, man,
- 23:55the learning tree has been built up kind of like this goofy, like
- 23:59not so serious heel group, Like what's the point of it? But then
- 24:02the collision part made sense to give them that edgeback. So but fun trios
- 24:07match, Like you said, if you get hooked Joe and Shabbata and the
- 24:11trio stuff like that'll be fun too. So good. Once again, it's
- 24:15just damn good, solid trios matchup. And you know, trios matchups for
- 24:18me, prior to the last maybe year of aw have not always been entertaining.
- 24:22So the ones are seal on the show so far, We're really good.
- 24:26Next match here is Jack Perry defeating Kenoski Takeshka, Mark Brisco, Dante
- 24:30mar and Leo Rush and l Phantasmo and a ladder match would be crowning the
- 24:33new AWT and T champion. We both let Jack Perry get in the victory.
- 24:38I thought this match was a letdown given the circumstances with the T and
- 24:41T Championship and the gimmick match of the multi man ladder match. The finish
- 24:45came off as a lackluster as Jack Perry won the match. I get the
- 24:48real heel heat with Jack Perry and giving him the spot. I just have
- 24:52a real tough time taking him seriously given his height and size and all lasty
- 24:55in that cmpunk video still did not do him any favors because he got punked
- 24:59out. I think there's a lot of upside here, but he needs to
- 25:02put on some muscle similar how Swerve Strickland did. And I also felt like
- 25:04this match was kind of cut short on time. It just felt very rushed.
- 25:08Did not enjoy it all that much. And the Jack Perry victory was
- 25:14very easy to call. And I don't know, maybe I would have done
- 25:17it in a different way than a ladder match, So don't trait your thoughts
- 25:19on this one. Yeah, Like for me, like watching it and being
- 25:23ninety five percent sure Jack Perry was going to win. I kind of wanted
- 25:27not so much a swerve, but I wanted to make it seem kind of
- 25:30more compelling and the athletes in this match, I thought you'd get a lot
- 25:34more you know, crazy spots, some stuff that we haven't seen before,
- 25:40some innovation, and we really didn't get that. To Keshka being kind of
- 25:44added in last minute, I was like, Oh, that's great because we
- 25:45haven't really seen him on TV since you know, he threw his temper tantrum
- 25:49online and that was kind of a letdown. It was for a six person
- 25:55ladder match. This may be the weakest main or big show. Oh,
- 26:00six person ladder match I've ever seen. That's just that much of a letdown
- 26:04for what it could be. So I'm still Jack Perry's either got to get
- 26:10bigger or he needs a muscle. He needs to have a Lucasource type guy
- 26:14with him if he wants to go to Sean Michael's route of being just undersized
- 26:18top eel. He needs something around him to make him feel like a threat.
- 26:23Right now, you just kind of feel like he's just annoying. He's
- 26:26he's like an annoying gnat that he just wait for somebody's swat away. Yeah,
- 26:30and it's not an annoying like he'll heat way. And I really have
- 26:33to say that about the guy, because I do think he's extremely talented.
- 26:36It's just like that, more opportunities they give him, it's just it's not
- 26:38believable, and he's he's got to do something. I mean, Swirre Strickland
- 26:42was a little bit undersized and and he bulked up kind of got more of
- 26:45a vicious attitude. I know what they were doing with the punk video to
- 26:51get some eyes on the product and get a little bit of a bump in
- 26:53an increase and welcome him back into storylines. But I just can't get that
- 26:57on my head. I mean, he looked like a bitch in that video,
- 27:00and how am I supposed to take him seriously as it's like badass,
- 27:03heel called a scapegoat, Like, it just doesn't make sense at all.
- 27:07So he grew up here, Jeff, he grew up tells you that he
- 27:11hit puberty. So yeah, yeah, I mean again, I always say
- 27:15this, like, but he probably could kick my ass. But the thing
- 27:18is I say probably, you know what I mean, it's legitimate. It's
- 27:22it's legitimate there correctly. Like if Jeff is having an allergy breakout and it
- 27:29happens to be a Tuesday and he's a little hungry, maybe Jack Perry could
- 27:33take Jeff Peck. It would be the battle of the JP's though, yeah,
- 27:37it would be JP versus JP. That could be something that's like Icon
- 27:38versus Icon wrestling. In eighteen. Next match heear is Mercedes Moone defeating Stephanie
- 27:44Vakor in a winner take all match, retain the AWTVS Championship and win the
- 27:48New Japan Strong Women's Championship. We both had Mercedes Bonet again. This was
- 27:52written before Wednesday's Dynamite leave it to a New York crowd to start getting the
- 27:56Mercedes bone He'll turn, which the direction should be for her character going the
- 28:00short term on Mercedes running AW hasn't been as I had hoped it would go,
- 28:03and I think getting involved with returning doctor Burt Baker, DMD would be
- 28:07really good for her in the early stages of her AW career. We'll talk
- 28:10a little bit more about what happened on Dynamite in just a second, Doctor
- 28:12traight your thoughts on the match typical Mercedes mon a match for me, and
- 28:18this is the history of the Still Real Twist show where I'm just like,
- 28:22yeah, like I don't I still don't get the massive love for her.
- 28:26I always said if she was wrestling somebody on her level or he thought was
- 28:32on her level, or one of her friends, she had great matches.
- 28:34Anybody else they were crap. And this one I just I'm watching going.
- 28:40All we heard was how much you know did her opponent, how good she
- 28:44was, and how great she was. And I watched this match, going
- 28:45this match kind of yeah at best, like agreed eh ladder match, I'm
- 28:52like, Okay, now I'm really kind of mad that I'm three hours into
- 28:55this show, three and a half hours in the show, and this is
- 28:56where I'm at right now. But always saving grace about this whole match and
- 29:02segment was the reappearance of Doctor Britt Baker. So like, once again,
- 29:06I'm just like people who tell me Mercedes Monet is a top five women's wrestler
- 29:11of all time, I still think are just delusional. Yeah. I figured
- 29:15when I watched this match and I did not enjoy it as well, and
- 29:18I was like, when we sit down for the podcast, doctor Trey's gonna
- 29:22be like I told you so, because I was very high on Mercedes Monet
- 29:25signing for AAW and just in the short term, it just has not been
- 29:30great. The match has been okay, the character has been fine. I
- 29:33felt like they should have gone heel immediately just because the way that she was
- 29:37carrying herself on television, and that should have been the direction. The creative
- 29:41has been all right, and she's kind of part time. I mean,
- 29:45she's not there as frequently as I had hoped. I think Will Osprey has
- 29:49been on television more than Mercedes Monet, and he's coming from freaking England for
- 29:52AW shows. So I also on this match, I saw that the goal
- 29:56for aw and Mercedes Monette was to get about corp over and she's extremely talented,
- 30:02but and they felt like they achieved that. I did not feel like
- 30:04they achieved that. As a viewer at home, I'm not accustomed to her
- 30:07matches in her style of wrestling. I watched the match, I did not
- 30:11think, Okay, this is like me to Shirakawa in the match with time
- 30:15with Stony Storm, I was like, Mina is really good. I want
- 30:18to see more of her matches. I did not feel that with Stephanie vakor
- 30:21So. I disagree with the report out there that's saying that they felt like
- 30:25they accomplished what they wanted by getting her over as a star onto Dynamite.
- 30:30They leaned into the heill turn brit Baker in the ring, Mercedes Monet shows
- 30:33up. She is created by the EVPs the Young Bucks, who say that
- 30:37they've a celebration waiting for her in the ring while doctor britt Baker's in there.
- 30:44One thing leads to another. Get down to the ring and britt Baker
- 30:47challeng challenges her to all in. Monette is leaning into the heel character again,
- 30:52right thing to do. The problem that I have with that segment is
- 30:57britt Baker says all in, and there was also it just felt very awkward
- 31:02between the two. It didn't flow well. I don't know if somebody missed
- 31:06a line or something that was supposed to be said. There was a part
- 31:08where it just felt very awkward, which is right around this all in part.
- 31:12So she says all in, Mercedes Bone says, you know, get
- 31:15in the back of the line, and then I think prit Baker said like,
- 31:19there's nobody there, and then she holds the title and I'm like,
- 31:22so does that mean they're having a mat? I think they get to all
- 31:26in, but was it official? Did Mercedes Monett give the thumbs up to
- 31:30say yeah, I'm I'll wrestle you at all in? It was a very
- 31:34odd segment. I felt, yeah, I'm watching and you and IBUB like
- 31:41britt Baker's when it comes to promos is probably one of the best in women's
- 31:45in the women's division in both companies, and it just felt off. It
- 31:52felt like they were both I don''t to say nervous, but very guarded.
- 31:56It's almost like they didn't trust what the other was going to say. Like
- 32:00they were both waiting for the other person to one up them, almost like
- 32:04just being very protective of their spots while they're cutting these promos. And it's
- 32:09also just lack of communication and lack of ever being around each other, because
- 32:15you know, while Rip Baker's dominate AW Mercedes and ww A, Mercedes comes
- 32:20AW and BRIT's on the shelf. So it could just be that lack of
- 32:23communicative timing, which some people have and some people don't. But it was
- 32:28just kind of weird and clunky. But they are right to lean into Mercedes
- 32:32when a being a heel makes more sense. That's kind of her natural character
- 32:37is supposed to be hear the CEO. How many people go, you know
- 32:40who I love? I love the CEO of my company. Nobody ever says
- 32:44so if you're the CEO, obviously you're going to be kind of obnoxious,
- 32:47So it makes sense to go that way. And Britt Baker being I do
- 32:52love I did like the line of the only three letters that that matter are
- 32:55DMD. I did like that line. But yeah, just for two of
- 33:00the perceived best women wrestlers in the world to have kind of clunky promo and
- 33:06a couple of clunky interactions is a little scary. The other thing I dislike
- 33:09about all this is is the TVs title more important than the women's title.
- 33:15Because these are the two biggest stars in your women's division and they're fighting over
- 33:20technically the intercontinental title. It's just weird. Once again, the hierarchy of
- 33:24titles and placements is just kind of often times like, I know this is
- 33:30a big match for all In, but to me, to get the women's
- 33:34title over onto the level of what you have in WWE, this future be
- 33:38for the women's title as opposed to the TBS title. Yeah, I don't
- 33:43know if they're trying to elevate that championship if they don't want them in the
- 33:45women's title reign so far, because Titlestony Storm's doing a very good job with
- 33:50their character. There's a lot of weird creative in that standpoint. And one
- 33:52thing that I'll also add to this is it wasn't too long ago that they
- 33:57brought back the ranking system and now it's completely washed away. Unless Britt Baker
- 34:01starts doing gets victories and all of a sudden is the number one contender and
- 34:07they go on the ranking system, it's like, well then why did you
- 34:08bring the raking system back when Joe was world champion? So yeah, it
- 34:13was very weird. I kind of got like CM punk type vibes, Like
- 34:19I feel like that there is a guard in aw that doesn't like when the
- 34:22outsiders come in and try to, you know, get some glory off of
- 34:25what they built. And I don't know if that's the case here, but
- 34:29it did feel like it was a very odd promo towards the tail end of
- 34:32it, it just was executed very very poorly between by both women. So
- 34:37if this is a dream match Britt Baker versus Mercedes Monet, and we'll see
- 34:40how this continues forward coming out of Forbidden Door. In this past Wednesday's edition
- 34:45to Dynamite, next match here is Tutsi and Nido defeating John Moxley to win
- 34:50the IWGP World of aweight Championship by Anito, Dowt Tre and Moxley. I
- 34:53love both these guys as wrestlers, but I did not love this match,
- 34:58especially the end, as I felt like the there may have been some miscommunications
- 35:00on kickouts and spots in this one. I love Red Shoes the referee,
- 35:06but felt like he got too involved in a match between two greats at the
- 35:08end with a really slow third count attempt on a pin and then taking the
- 35:13chair away from Moxley. Lastly, I felt like Moxley and aw didn't really
- 35:16add much benefit to him holding the IWGP World of weweight Championship as it wasn't
- 35:22featured much in aw outside of I believe one title match against Powerhouse Hobbs and
- 35:25Jacksonville. I think everyone else everything else was eliminator matches. Not sure if
- 35:30that was a New Japan Pro Wrestling call or not or not, or due
- 35:35to the lack of the title defenses, it felt like this title reign for
- 35:38Max was just something he could add to his Hall of Fame resume, rather
- 35:42than getting new eyes on the new Japan Pro Wrestling product and understanding IWGP legacy
- 35:47itself. So that was my thoughts on this one. Doctorres Nitol regains the
- 35:52IWGP World aweight Championship over John Moxley. Yeah, and for me, I
- 35:55don't know if it was just fatigue for watching the entire show or what,
- 36:00but by this time I'm like, yeah, the match itself for two of
- 36:05the better wrestlers in the world, this match to me was just kind of
- 36:07like awkward and weird, and you know, all respect to Reshues, but
- 36:12he's almost in that Earl Hebner thing now where it's like he's almost too big
- 36:16of a name to be a referee, like the referee feels like he needs
- 36:21to get his shine in a match almost at times. But yeah, it
- 36:25just it felt off. Now, I did you know, and I did
- 36:28read up on this a little bit that New Japan controls the booking for all
- 36:31of their titles, so this may this is a New Japan call to put
- 36:37the belt on Nido and not an AAW call. But it did feel like
- 36:40it was good for New Japan to have their title on Boxley even though he's
- 36:45not wrestling on TV. And it felt like it was good for AW because
- 36:49it showed Moxley still as a title holder and still because he's not hasn't really
- 36:53been featured in any of the things in AAW recently like Blackpool, Comba Absolute
- 36:59with if you do with the CML group and then he's got the du Japan
- 37:02stuff. They really have been factored into a thing since FTR got hurt,
- 37:07So maybe it's just a good placeholder spot now it shows that hey, we
- 37:10can move him on to something else more AWS. But yeah, the matches
- 37:15health the ending just I'm like watches and going with Moxley fights all over the
- 37:20ring and uses everything around the ring side, but he can't have the chair,
- 37:23Like that's where you're drawing the line Like that's a little weird to me,
- 37:27But yeah, to me, this was just like now we're at three
- 37:30to row matches where I'm just like, eh, like all my energy now
- 37:32sucked out of me. That's tough one of You're on match number fourteen,
- 37:37So let's get to match number fifteen. As Swerve Strickland defeats will Ospry to
- 37:40retain the AW World Championship in the main event match, we both at sperb
- 37:44of Strickland getting the victory. I loved the reported reason for this finish,
- 37:47as fight Full Select is reported at will Osprey wanted to eliminate the talking point
- 37:52of Swerve being a placehold over for him until aw all in at Wembley,
- 37:54hence why the match took place Now that was something that we thought was gonna
- 37:58happen. I also love that these two guys got the opportunity to mainvent because
- 38:01if there were any doubters about their abilities and main event level players. It
- 38:06was silence on Sunday night. If you give these guys good creative to support
- 38:09their pay per view matches, then Swerve and Osprey can be guys that help
- 38:13rejuvenate the AW product. As for the match itself, the guardwell Hurricanrona spot
- 38:17was insane. From Osprey to Swerve, stop on Osprey onto the announcers table
- 38:22was nuts, and then the final part of this match was incredible. This
- 38:25is on my short list of Match of the Year candidates as Ospray and Swerve
- 38:28for some of the best in the visits today. Swerve Strickland retains the AW
- 38:31World Championship over will Ospray not to try. Yeah, the best thing I
- 38:36read about this was that there were guys in AW who did not want to
- 38:39lose who Swerve because a year ago he was a mid card, lower card
- 38:44guy and Osprey wanted to put that to the rest of Ospray can lose to
- 38:47Swerve. Anybody can lose the Swerve. So I love that this match was
- 38:53fantastic, and I was it was weird at this point. I don't know
- 38:57about you, Like I'm watching the show and after the last three matches,
- 39:00I'm like, oh, please, just let this match me decent. I
- 39:02was just hoping for decent to good at this point because I was exhausted,
- 39:07and it was fantastic. This is one of the things that made me a
- 39:10believer will Ospray as well, between the promo work he's been doing, the
- 39:15promo working he did on Collision, the intricacies of the storytelling when the screwdriver
- 39:21gets slid into him and he has that internal confliction about using it and then
- 39:25decides not to use it, but it takes how many house calls and then
- 39:30a jml's driver at the end of finding blum away like this like legitimized will
- 39:34Ospray to me even more and once again put Sworth on that upper tier level.
- 39:38So fantastic, fantastic way match and a great way to close to the
- 39:43show because this is one of those matches that elevates both guys and so good
- 39:46job to AW Booking to put this together to keep both guys looking strong,
- 39:51not have some crazy run in interference and legitimize both guys. So you go
- 39:55AW and New Japan Arresting Forbidden Door recap and let's get our PAP per viewprediction
- 40:00record. Here I went twelve to one. Doctor Trey win eight and five
- 40:04coming out of this one, I'm an eighty and seventeen Dutch Trace seventy one
- 40:07and twenty six match of the night. In event rating, my match to
- 40:10night very easy. Here serves Stricken versus Will Osprey. It's is on the
- 40:14shortlist of match of the Year candidates for me. As for event rating,
- 40:17I give it a three point six out of five. I overall the show
- 40:22was fine. Fifteen matches on a wrestling card in twenty twenty four for five
- 40:29and a half hours is too much. I'm sorry if that is controversial to
- 40:34some wrestling fans that are like, they love this for five and a half
- 40:36hours and fifteen matches, it is not my cup of tea. There are
- 40:39matches in here that are fantastics working Will Osprey, Timstony Storm, Minasher at
- 40:45Kawa, I like the Elite and Scissor Ace and there mjffin Hetchin Sero was
- 40:49good. Like there's good matches in here. Then there's a lot of stuff
- 40:52that you can basically skip over and gloss over that was just like why the
- 40:55hell did they do this? Or a match that was disappointing, like Night
- 40:59don't and mocks. I really think they need to change the pay per view
- 41:04model for aw and I don't think they they will again. Five and a
- 41:08half hours fifteen matches way too much, So I give it a three point
- 41:13six out of five. Doctor Trey. Yeah, not everything has to be
- 41:16a wrestle kingdom, and I don't mean to the old school wrestle kingdoms where
- 41:21it was six seven hours or WrestleMania. Not every pay per view. I
- 41:23mean, I get Forbidden Door. You got a lot of people coming in
- 41:25from multiple companies. It's a big deal, but the fatigue factor sets in
- 41:30and you can tell it done us watching the show. But I mean imagine
- 41:36being an attendance for five and a half hours of wrestling, not to mention
- 41:39you probably got there an hour early, and then try to get out of
- 41:43the building and drive home from Long Island. Oh my gosh. I feel
- 41:46I feel for the fans, and it's tense. I had the show.
- 41:50I also at a three point six, which it's just weird that you pick
- 41:52the same number as me, and I also had auspring swear. But it's
- 41:55just yeah, I'm old man, I can't do five and a half hours
- 42:00anymore. I can't do, Jeff, I can't even do like three hours
- 42:04at a concert, and that's live music, NonStop. I mean five and
- 42:07a half hours, dear lord, Like I would need to be hopped up
- 42:10on cocaine and red bolts and survived that night in person. Like, it's
- 42:15just a crazy amount of just content to digest, and especially if the card
- 42:22flow is not right, Like if you move not Moxley and Nido to the
- 42:25beginning of that show and Nido get to win to kick off the show,
- 42:30you and I both go, oh, this is going to be different because
- 42:32New Japan got a win to start the show that's unexpected. And then you
- 42:37put MGF somewhere in the middle. I think that flows a little bit better.
- 42:42But this is this is an example of why match placement and how you
- 42:46book the show out is so important, because the show started off really strong
- 42:51and then really started kind of dipping towards the end, and only kind of
- 42:55Osprey and Swar saved it at the end to make this a good pay per
- 43:00view at least. Yeah, I had wrestler Any thirty vibes, which is
- 43:05what led to two night events for WrestleMania, basically because it was I think
- 43:09a fifteen to eighteen match card off the top of my head, and it
- 43:15was like, they need to do something different here, and I think AW
- 43:16needs to do something different. But I feel like also that AW is going
- 43:21to dig their heels in the sand a little bit and not change anything.
- 43:24I think this is what they think their business model is and it's not something
- 43:27that I want to see on the regular. It should not be a chore
- 43:30to watch these shows. It really should be give me quality, not quantity.
- 43:36So we've talked about this at nauseum in the past, and it just
- 43:38was brought up again because for Benendor was so fucking long and again thank god,
- 43:45Swerve of Stricklin, will Osprey put on an absolute clinic And to that
- 43:47point, like I'm looking at my AW shows that I've given match to the
- 43:52night AW Revolution, Ospray, Kenoske Aw Dynasty, Osprey Danielson was mine,
- 43:59AW double or not Osprey, rogerck Strong and then Forbid Indoor, Osprey,
- 44:02Swert of Strickland. So I think I really like Will Ospray Doctor Trey.
- 44:07Well, you did tell me he would be the biggest free agent signing whenever
- 44:10he decided and signed with one of the two major companies. So yeah,
- 44:15your love affairly Will Osprey. Now, if you go back years and years
- 44:17ago, I always said if Osprey put on size, he'd be a main
- 44:22event talent. Another one of those put on size. Yeah, just it
- 44:27does matter. Size matters. I don't know if everybody knows that, but
- 44:30it does matter in the world of professional wrestling that if you look the part,
- 44:35you're believable, which is also why Jeff Perry, Jeff pechis he could
- 44:38beat up Jack Perry. Yeah. I hate to say it, I really
- 44:40do, because it's a very like corny wrestling fan thing to say, but
- 44:45I'm having a really tough time taking Jack Perry believable. I mean Ospray I
- 44:50watched him in twenty seventeen when he was with Chaos working as a junior heavyweight,
- 44:53and he was a small guy. He bulked up when he became the
- 44:57IWGP Worldlyweight Champion and looked phenomenal. I mean, I'm just such a believer
- 45:00and say things for Stricklyn. I remember watching Swerve in NXT and prior to
- 45:05that, on the Independence and various different promotions, and he was a junior
- 45:08heavyweight. He was he was working two A five live in we those guys
- 45:12put on size and I, without batting an eye, I did not change.
- 45:16I changed my thoughts on them being main event level players. So I
- 45:20love that Swerve and Osbury planted their flag in the ground. Forbidden Door was
- 45:24extremely long. Again, but if you have not watched Dynamite yet, go
- 45:28out of your way and check it out. It was a very very strong
- 45:30episode of AW Dynamite. It is what I wanted to see. I saw
- 45:34really good creative entertainment segments and good entering work. So props all around AW
- 45:38here on the short term, switching gears to w w WEE, we've got
- 45:43to preview and predict Money in the Bank and NXC heat Wave in just a
- 45:45moment. But I want to talk about another great angle and segment that I
- 45:49wanted to do bring up here on the show, and that was the closed
- 45:52to Friday's SmackDown where Paul Hayman says to Solo Socoa that you are not my
- 45:59travel chief. During the Bloodline acknowledgement ceremony, they end up laying out Paul
- 46:02Hayman in something that we've never really seen with his character, I mean,
- 46:07absolutely brutalized him during that segment and to me, it will go down as
- 46:10a memorable moment in the history of SmackDown, and especially for this angle.
- 46:15So two parts here, Doctor Trey and I felt this way prior to and
- 46:20I can't even believe I'm saying this, but is this the best we've ever
- 46:23seen from Paul Hayman? And was the Bloodline acknowledgement ceremony from SmackDown pure cinema
- 46:30for you as well? Yeah, I mean for Paul Hayman. I'm literally
- 46:36like going through the analogs of my timeline watching Paul Hayman, going back to
- 46:42roughly nineteen eighty six in Awa. So I've been watching Paul Haman for almost
- 46:46forty years. This last run since WrestleMania has been really fantastic. I don't
- 46:54know, I have to sit down and kind of rank it, but it's
- 46:59right there. I mean, this is some of the best work. I
- 47:00mean, the facials, the stammering in his voice, the you know,
- 47:06all the little stuff he's been doing. And then to see that spot on
- 47:09SmackDown, and mind you, I'm jealous as well because I've never been put
- 47:15through a table in my time as the wrestling manager, and I've always wanted
- 47:17to do it and we just haven't never got a chance to do it.
- 47:22So I was a little jealous as well. But it's fantastic work. It's
- 47:27it is. It was kind of like, you know, they make the
- 47:30comparison with Day even the videos of this of the Bloodline being compared to The
- 47:35Godfather, and it did feel like a hit from the Godfather when they took
- 47:39him out and put him to the table. So and I think the last
- 47:45time I saw Paul Hayman get actually beat up might have been by CM Punk
- 47:49during the CM Punk Ryeback Curtis Axel time frame, So that was the last
- 47:54time I think I can remember seeing Paul Hyman actually get beat up. So
- 47:59yeah, just really really good television. It's gonna be one. It's the
- 48:04him going up on the show is to look on his face just knowing,
- 48:07like when he's getting hoisted up and all that stuff, like just so so
- 48:10good. But yeah, one of the best ends to SmackDown in a recent
- 48:15memory as well. And once again this is just one of the differences the
- 48:17times between WW and AW is. It's just the television aspect sometimes is more
- 48:22compelling, where now you're like, crap have to see what's going to happen
- 48:27on the next show, what the fallout is going to be from it,
- 48:30like whether it Paul or Triple Ah said the recently w is a movie about
- 48:37sports, and this is one of those pieces where you can go, yes,
- 48:40this is cinematic quality, like I erst been there today say that Paul
- 48:44Hayman deserves an Emmy for his performance since WrestleMania with all this work with the
- 48:49new bloodline. Uh And it'd be hard to argue that if you put up
- 48:52his work against some of the stuff you see on television shows, Paul Hayman
- 48:57could be considered for an Emmy. It's been that good. This is going
- 49:00to be very hokey of a way to do this because I can't play audio
- 49:06from my computer anymore during the podcast. But the pop that Paul Hayman received
- 49:10when he told Solo Saka that he is not his tribal chief was absolutely epic
- 49:15and it was a great Madison Square Guarner card. So I'm going to bring
- 49:19it up here on the Instagram and stand by here because this is going to
- 49:23be very very bad and not the way that I like to do this.
- 49:29So let's see. I think this is it good? I mean Doctor Trey,
- 49:46that reaction is epic. Yeah, I mean I got chills. It
- 49:52was a little bit of the way he the way he spaced it, the
- 49:59timing delivery of it. It was. It was very cinematic. It was
- 50:02also very mope Mari Povich if you are not the Father, like it was
- 50:07a little bit of both for me watching it, where he's like, you
- 50:10are not my tribal chief. Only need It was like Jacob Atoo dancing or
- 50:16something. Oh yeah, like I'm a hunter, Like I could just picture
- 50:21like you know, Tom and Tong gonna say, look, Paul Hayman was
- 50:22gonna say he's one hundred and fifteen percent sure that he's going to you know,
- 50:27and then you know the dancing in the background. But yeah, just
- 50:30so good. And I mean that's every time somebody turns against the bloodline,
- 50:35you get one of these crazy pops, whether it was Sammy Saying or Jay
- 50:37Uso and now Paul Hayman. I mean, people give a shit, They
- 50:43give a shit. Yeah, And just the fact that Paul Hayman, who
- 50:47is admired universally and reviled at times universally, got that kind of pop I
- 50:57mean, how good does that feel for him to get a baby face pop
- 51:00like that in the same building he started taking pictures of wrestlers. That's for
- 51:07him. That has to be that full. He could retire tomorrow, he
- 51:12could die a happy man, a happy man from it. But dear God,
- 51:15don't leave us yet, Paul, because you still got more good to
- 51:19put out there for the rest of us. So the second part in this
- 51:22is I felt like that Roman was going to be away for a while.
- 51:27I was thinking maybe they'd do something at Survivor series war games which would make
- 51:30sense where it was like Solo's bloodline versus Roman's bloodline, or maybe even hold
- 51:36them out to twenty twenty five. When this angle happened, all I can
- 51:39think of was like, they need Roman at SummerSlam, Like there is no
- 51:44way right now that Roman can't be at SummerSlam, because the crowd wants it,
- 51:50and they could actually start if that's the direction they want to go,
- 51:52They can start to build with Roman. Reigns returns in an epic fashion at
- 51:59SummerSlam. Are in like the presumed assumed Solisakoa Cody Rhodes match with the title
- 52:04at SummerSlam, they close out the show that way, and then Roman starts
- 52:07to rebuild his version of the bloodline where maybe Jimmy sides with him again.
- 52:14I think that's immediate. Obviously Paul returns, and then maybe he wins over
- 52:19jay Uso and gets Sammy z Ain back, so that you have a match
- 52:22at War Games like four on four or five on five. However they want
- 52:27to do it where it's like Roman's bloodline versus Solo's bloodline. I think to
- 52:31me this confirmed that Roman is coming back sooner rather than later than I had
- 52:36thought as a fan. Yeah, because Paul's been so good in his role
- 52:43that to make this move now was like my kind of clue that, Okay,
- 52:47Roman's coming back, because otherwise there's no need for this to happen now.
- 52:54I mean, we still haven't got some money in the bank, we
- 52:58still haven't got the Summer Slam. You know, we still got those spots.
- 53:02That also confirms to me that Roman is going to you that the Rock
- 53:06will eventually side with Solo because he's going to need a mouthpiece to help against
- 53:12Paul when these two sides go to battle, and Rock doesn't have to be
- 53:15in the War Games match, but he could be the hype man for whatever
- 53:21this goes down. But yeah, like that's also like when you look on
- 53:25paper and you're like, well, Jimmy's not doing anything. Jay is probably
- 53:30going to get tied up in the Wyatt six a little bit or something.
- 53:32Is kind of my feeling on it. And then if Sammy loses the Intercontinental
- 53:36title to bron Breaker, then you could reunite the quote unquote og bloodline against
- 53:44Solo's blood line and it makes a lot of sense, and you can align
- 53:45those parts to where it makes sense storyline wise to pull it all together as
- 53:51well. Yeah, it's it's sentiment right now. So I just felt like,
- 53:54Okay, Roman is coming back to gender rather than later, and that
- 53:59reaction is going to be here huge. I saw somebody had tweeted out it
- 54:01was a pretty funny line where it was like Vince, it took Vince forever
- 54:06to get romanover's a babyface, and Triple H did it in just a couple
- 54:09months. Because I mean, the crowd wants them. I mean they are
- 54:14epically wanting the guy who was the biggest heel in the company to return and
- 54:20lay claim to his table as the head of the table, and the Tribal
- 54:23Chief, Absolute Cinema, really really enjoyable stuff and looking forward to this continuing
- 54:30going on. And I'm very happy for sols Coo. I mean, he
- 54:31is really coming to his own and is really breaking out here in twenty twenty
- 54:36four. Let's get to the matches and cards that are taking place this weekend.
- 54:40WAE Money in the Bank Preving Predictions that comes to us this Saturday from
- 54:43the Scotia Bank Arena in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. The first match here
- 54:46is the Men's Money the Bank Ladder Match for Men's Championship Match contract. You
- 54:50have ja Uso Carmelo, Hayes Andrade, Chad Gable, La Night and Drew
- 54:53McIntyre Doctor Trey. Who do you like in this one? Man? This
- 54:57one's hard. This is one of the first money that banks in the was
- 55:00You're really hard for a pick. To me, I've got your Chad Gail
- 55:02or Drew McIntyre or by two like to my two options, i think I'm
- 55:08going to take Drew getting to win, even though party really wants to pick
- 55:12Gable, but I think I'm gonna pick Drew getting to win in this one.
- 55:15I'm gonna take Drew McIntyre as well. There's a lot of reports early
- 55:19on that Jay Usso was the favorite in this one. I think maybe things
- 55:22have changed. And I thought Drew McIntyre's promo on Monday's Raw, where he
- 55:25was going to cash in at Money in the Bank is something that I think
- 55:29takes place. I think Drew McIntyre cashes in, he wins the briefcase and
- 55:34cash is in. I'll get to that later on in the podcast here in
- 55:37the preview, and then that sets up Drew McIntyre for Gunther versus Guntherer at
- 55:42SummerSlam, and I think that would be the direction that they would take.
- 55:47And because Punk's gonna be away for a while, and I think maybe that
- 55:50would leads to Punk taking out Drew McIntyre and we get that match eventually here
- 55:54in maybe the late August or early September. So both was taking Drew McIntyre
- 55:58to win this one. Next match is Eo Sky versus Chelsea Green, Libra
- 56:01Valcarie, Tiffany Stratton, Naomi and Zoey Stark and the Women's Money Bank Ladder
- 56:05match for a Women's Championship match contract. I'm gonna take Tiffany Stratton this one.
- 56:09I want to pick Chelsea Green, but I'm gonna go with Tiffany because
- 56:14I think Nia Jax and her are gonna have a partnership. Naya Jacks is
- 56:17gonna get a title match at Summerslamp. I think Nia wins that one,
- 56:21which then eventually leads to Tiffany Stratton turned in on NYA. So I'm gonna
- 56:24take Tiffany Stratton, win them one of the bank briefcase doctor try all right,
- 56:28you won me over. I was gonna pick Chelsea because Chelsea's my favorite
- 56:31person to watch in this match, but having Tiffany and Naya on the same
- 56:37side, and especially if NYO wins in SummerSlam, where now they're kind of
- 56:40an alliance, but one has the briefcase and one has the belt, so
- 56:44you never trust they can't trust each other completely makes a ton of sense and
- 56:49probably more compelling TV than any think we've got out of Bailey since winning a
- 56:52WrestleMania. So I'm gonna take Tiffany Stratton as well, so you kind of
- 56:55maybe flip my pick there, and and I'm okay with that one. The
- 57:00next match is Sammy Zain defend the Inter CONTINENTLD Champions against bron Breaker. Who
- 57:02do you like this one not to try? I kind of alluded if we're
- 57:06gonna go back to og Bloodline. You don't really want the Inner Connell title
- 57:08around. So I'm gonna take broun Breaker getting the win. Plus, it
- 57:10just feels like they're just gonna rocket ship this guy as far at the ladder
- 57:14they can go. I got bron Breaker winning the Inner Connell title. I'm
- 57:17gonna take Sammy's ain because I feel like Sammy's ain is wes Lee to me.
- 57:22Now, when Wesley held a North American championship, I always thought Wesley
- 57:24was gonna lose. And I love Sammy. Sammy's one of my favorites.
- 57:29But I think Sammy overcomes these odds again and I think he defeats bron Breaker,
- 57:31which will be interesting. I think they need to put a loss on
- 57:35bron Breaker's ledger since being up on the main roster, and this is the
- 57:37way that you do it. So I'm gonna take Sammy z Ain to retain
- 57:40the inter Continental Championship. The next match is Cody Roads, Randy Orton,
- 57:44Kevin Owens taking on the Bloodline in a six man tag team match. I'm
- 57:47gonna take the Bloodline in this one because I believe Solo Soko versus Cody Roads
- 57:52takes place at SummerSlam, and you need the bloodline to get some strong momentum
- 57:55hanging into that one. So I'm taking the bloodline to get the victory.
- 57:59Yeah, I'm taking the blood line as well. Plus, there's four members
- 58:01of the blood line and only three members of Cody, Randy and Kevin.
- 58:05Unless Little Jimmy shows up on their side, we can't see him. Uh,
- 58:08So I'm taking the bloodline as well, just because I figure tongala will
- 58:15be the deciding factor in that match. Interesting Tongaloa becoming the former Camacho,
- 58:22isn't it. Isn't it Tomatonga Solo and Jacob fut two in the match.
- 58:25I definitely think Jacob fuck two is in the match. Yeah, I think
- 58:30that's probably the way that the ego because Tangaloa does have a knee issue,
- 58:34that's why he's but he's also working more trios matches and tag team matches because
- 58:37of that. So yeah, I think that's a three. I think that's
- 58:40a three. I think you got it right there. He's the one not
- 58:43involved, so he could be the factor in the match. To decide who
- 58:46wins because he's not involved, so he's the he's the the leverage they have
- 58:51in this match. I'm gonna take a step further there. Somebody doesn't get
- 58:54involved, but I think it's Hickeoalo finally debuting. I think Kickelo is w
- 58:59W bound and gonna be bloodline bound. See, but then that makes me
- 59:01wonder, like I still think that Hicelo may sign with with with Roman because
- 59:07the rock would mean the person for the new blood line. That would be
- 59:12interesting be the fifth person for Roman's blood line. That's an interesting point.
- 59:15I like that point, Doctor Trey. That would be cool if if Roman
- 59:19brought someone to even up the odds. All right, so good stuff there.
- 59:22Botho's taking the blood line to win this one, and that takes us
- 59:23to the uh last chance match for the World Have Away Championship. If Damian
- 59:29Priest wins, Ronalds will never challenge for the title as long as Priest's champion.
- 59:32If Rollins wins, Priests must leave the judgment day, Doctor Trey,
- 59:37who do you like this one? Damien Priest defends against Seth freaking Rollins.
- 59:40I'm taking Damien Priest to get the win because this time's out. Like,
- 59:45if Damian Priest wins and then Drew cashes in on him, then Seth can
- 59:49challenge for the title right away. Priest stays in the Judgment Day and you
- 59:52still got all the tension building in it. So I almost take Priest retaining
- 59:59this one and then Drew mcintarre cashing in on at the end of the show.
- 1:00:02I'm taking the same exact thing that you said. I feel like I'm
- 1:00:06ordering it a diner and somebody just has the same exact meal that I have.
- 1:00:08I am taking Damien Priest to retain. I have Drew McIntyre cashing in
- 1:00:14and winning afterwards. I do think that there is some hokey stuff going on
- 1:00:17with the Judgment Day, whether it be Finn Balor or Live Morgan that gets
- 1:00:21involved in this match, But Damian Priest does not walk out of money the
- 1:00:27bank as World of aweight champion, but is still in Judgment Day, which
- 1:00:30I think leads to a build where Damian priests and maybe has taken on Finn
- 1:00:35Balor at SummerSlam. So I have Damian Priest winning this one, as does
- 1:00:39Doctor Trey, and we both have Drew McIntyre leaving Money the Bank as the
- 1:00:44World of aweight champion, and that takes us to Sunday Night, n XY
- 1:00:47heat Wave Previeum Predictions again from the Scotio Bank Arena in Toronto, Ontario,
- 1:00:51Canada. We have a pre show match here as Carmen Petrovic and Arionic Grace
- 1:00:54take on JC Jane and Jasmine Nicks. I'm going to take j C.
- 1:00:58Jane and Jasmin Nixon this one, Doctor Trey, I'm taking. I'm taking
- 1:01:01j C. Jane and Jasmine Nicks as well, because we've had a lot
- 1:01:05of Jay's on this show, so we'll take J J and Uh. We're
- 1:01:09taking all the James I'm taking. I'm picking Jay's in this one. Next
- 1:01:13matches for the NX Tag Team Championship is Nathan Fraser and Axiom defend against Chase
- 1:01:16University, Andre Chase and Duke Cutson. Who do you like this one,
- 1:01:19Doctor Trey. I'm taking Nathan Fraser and Axiom because I think Ridge Holland gets
- 1:01:23involved, tries to help Chase you and then cost them the match. So
- 1:01:27I'm gonna take Nathan Fraser Acxiom. I'm gonna take Chase University, becoming the
- 1:01:30new NX Tag Team Champions, and I think Ridge Holland does get involved he's
- 1:01:35not supposed to be there, helps them win. And then it also leads
- 1:01:37to the stuff the tension between Nathan Fraser and oxyam Axiom as there as Nathan
- 1:01:42Fraser is kind of focusing more on his singles career rather than their tag team.
- 1:01:46Next match is Colonie Jordan defending the NXC Women's North American Championship against Soul
- 1:01:50Ruka. I'm gonna take Colonie Jordan to retain Doctor Trey. Yeah, if
- 1:01:53this match was maybe three or four months out and Colonie Jordan had a little
- 1:01:59bit more time with the with the belt, maybe I picked stal Urca because
- 1:02:01he was one of my people I was really impressed with in that ladder match.
- 1:02:06But I'm taking Kilonie Jordan as well. Next match is once again another
- 1:02:08last chance match for the NAX North American Championship. If Oba wins Lee can
- 1:02:13ever challenge for the title for as long as Femmy as the champion. Opa
- 1:02:16Femi defends against wes Lee Doctor Trey. Who do you like in this one?
- 1:02:20Man? This one's tough for me because it's it's like we were talking
- 1:02:22about with all ago, It's hard to pick against west Lee because every time
- 1:02:27you think he's going to lose is when he actually wins. I'm gonna take
- 1:02:30Obafemi though, winning this one, just because I think wes Lee they can
- 1:02:35move him on to something else, or move him to the main roster,
- 1:02:37or have him be going the crossover guys going to TNA. So I'm gonna
- 1:02:40take Oba Femi retaining. I'm gonna take Oba Femi retaining as well. And
- 1:02:45I think they could actually put wes Lee in the world title picture rather than
- 1:02:50the North American Championship title picture, which is something that I always laugh about,
- 1:02:53like it's like a secondary title I can ever challenge for again. But
- 1:02:57I'm gonna go out chase the biggest title in the game. So ob retains,
- 1:03:00and I could see Wesley going after the NXT Championship following heat Wave.
- 1:03:06Next match is Roxane Perez defending the NXC Women's Championship against the Lolavice. I'm
- 1:03:10gonna take Lolavice to this one. I think it's her time. She has
- 1:03:14had a really really good build over the last couple of weeks, and I
- 1:03:16believe in her to be a top level player in the women's division. So
- 1:03:20I'm taking Lolavice to become the new NXC Women's champion. See, I thought
- 1:03:23I get you on this one because I'm taking Lolovice as well. She's got
- 1:03:27to capitalize on the win over Shana Basler and there's no I mean if she
- 1:03:30gets wins Overshana Basler in an underground match and then over Roxdan Perez in a
- 1:03:35wrestling match, that really establishes her. So I'm taking Lolvice as well.
- 1:03:38And then finally the main event is Trick Williams defends the NX Championship in a
- 1:03:42fatal four way match against Javon Evans, Ethan Page, and Sean Spears,
- 1:03:45Doctor Trey. Who do you like in this one? I really want to
- 1:03:50pick Ethan Page, I really do. I'm just having a hard time doing
- 1:03:53it because Trick's still over with the crowd. I don't think any other three
- 1:03:59people in this match are super over with the crowd. I know Evans is.
- 1:04:03I think Evans is for sure. Yeah, it's kind of like in
- 1:04:05that west Lee Bowl where he's the undersized underdog. I'm gonna take Trick just
- 1:04:12because I think he's still the He still looks like much as I like Evans.
- 1:04:15He doesn't look. It's the size batter again, like he doesn't look
- 1:04:18he's not big enough yet or have enough in his bank to bank on you.
- 1:04:24As far as credibility, I'm taking trick to retain. I'm gonna take
- 1:04:28Trick Williams to retain as well. But I also want to take this moment
- 1:04:30to say that Javion to evans climb in NXC is historic to me. About
- 1:04:34four months ago he was working on NXC level up and he has gotten himself
- 1:04:39into the main event picture and nobody is bad at eye at it. Nobody's
- 1:04:42like what is this kid doing? There a ton of amazing upside here.
- 1:04:46I mean, you want to talk about prodigies like Roxanne Perez, Javian Evans
- 1:04:49is one of them. This is a guy that can be a face of
- 1:04:54the brand for the next three years moving forward. I agree with you,
- 1:04:56definitely needs to put on some size, but there's some well, Osprey,
- 1:05:00there's a connection this guy has with the audience that is hard to find,
- 1:05:03and it's exciting to see for someone who has been on XC television such a
- 1:05:06short period of time and again not batting an eye for him to be in
- 1:05:10this main event level match, so we both have Trick Williams retaining. We
- 1:05:14will recap in review we Money in the Bank and NXC heat Wave on next
- 1:05:17week's edition the podcast. Once again, we will do our twenty twenty four
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